1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive John with Ashlyn Sullo Sound with 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: John Oceans and Brian Sexton. Jacks Drive Jo starts right now. Well, 3 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: we know who will be the next coach of the Jacks, 4 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson. Doug Peterson down in Jacksonville. He understands how 5 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: to build a sound organization with structure being able to move, 6 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: basically to be able from the ground up. These guys 7 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: want to win, I mean bottom line, they want to 8 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: win and it's got to be about football. Do you 9 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 1: feel like you're behind the eight ball in terms of 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: putting together a a staff no confidence wise, then in 11 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: be a little symbol very high. Our very first episode 12 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: of the Hunts of this offseason comes out this Thursday, 13 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: and we are very excited for it. You will not 14 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: get better access of what is going on inside this 15 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: building than watching them months, So tune in this Thursday. 16 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: Welcome into Jaguars Drive Time. Ashlyn, Brian and John here 17 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: on a Tuesday morning, and I laugh every single time 18 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: dots sound clip is played of Mark Long's question. Yeah, 19 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: he purposefully came in and wanted to exude the short 20 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: of confidence that he wants in his team to an 21 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: organization that lacks it right now. Uh, it fit so perfectly, Um, 22 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: and it didn't take a lot of effort to just 23 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: be himself. Absolutely, it was a legitimate question in Mark's defense, 24 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: who I've known for a long time. They had hired 25 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: a coach late, and he was asking if they were 26 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: behind the eight wall a lot of time wise, But 27 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson has been around. He knew at the time 28 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: that he could get the staff he wanted. I'm sure 29 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: at that point that he was sitting there talking to 30 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: Mark in that question. Uh, if he had eighteen staffers 31 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: instead of the seventy five we had last year, but 32 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: if he had he had eighteen, uh coaches, he probably 33 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: had twelve or even if that came together. I mean, 34 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: it didn't require three weeks to get He was making 35 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: phone calls before that case. Yeah, but it's Doug talked 36 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: with you, I think in Indianapolis and talked about coming 37 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: in and being himself and that being enough to you know, 38 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: to convince people of what they were building here. Well, 39 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: that that's him and it was exactly what this franchise 40 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: needed at that moment. It was a very legitimate question, 41 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: but it was a timely answer. Um speaking to who 42 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson is a guy who knows what to do, 43 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: how to do it. If you haven't listened to his 44 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: book yet or read it, do it. It will give 45 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 1: you great insight into him. Absolutely, Let's get into big things, 46 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: shall we. Big thing one is the franchise tie. The 47 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: deadline is today at four pm to place the tag 48 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 1: on some one. We've seen other teams do so this morning. 49 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: Do we expect this to happen at Cam Robinson or 50 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: possibly d J Chark. NFL Network Cynthia Freeliness, like many 51 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: waiting to see what happens with Cam Robinson and how 52 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: it impacts the entire draft, Well, are you gonna, Are 53 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: you guys gonna tell me who you're signing in free 54 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: agency because it's Cam Robinson coming back or not? Because 55 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 1: you know, like because I think Evan Neil if that's 56 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: who I would pick for you guys, But if you 57 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: pay for your tackle, then I would probably say you 58 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: need a pass rusher. So it's either going to be 59 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson or Evan Neil. It's kind of who right now. 60 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: But of course we'll learn more this week. And the 61 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: defense hasn't even started yet, so well, there's still more 62 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: to similar to do big thing to Like Cynthia just said, 63 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: the Jaguars could go many directions in the draft. Could 64 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: it be offensive lineman Evan Neil, Could it be John's 65 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: guy Ikey? Maybe Aidan Hutchinson As of now, many people 66 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: are thinking offensive line. As of now, it certainly seems 67 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: like the head of a consensus on it. Right. I 68 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: keep hearing Evan Neil's name from You're hearing that a lot, right. 69 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: It will be interesting because not only is he in 70 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,839 Speaker 1: the mix, what about it? Nicky Iguana out of out 71 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: of out of North Carolina State. That's another guy that's 72 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: going to be in this mix here as they turn 73 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: and evaluated when you get you know, uh as you know, 74 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: as you go through the whole process and what Doug 75 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: Peterson's gonna want for his offense. Charles Cross from Mississippi 76 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: State is another big offensive tackle. We're locked in on 77 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: those guys because Trevor Lawrence must be taken care of. 78 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: And it's not a year where to me, you're looking 79 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: at that offensive line as Cincinnati did last year and 80 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: said we've got someone on a roster. My name of 81 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: Jonah Williams has been hurt. People don't talk about it, 82 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: but we're gonna take jamorrow chasing Steak because we think 83 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: Jonah Williams will hold up. This feels a lot more 84 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: like Jacksonville, almost certainly headed towards the big people. And 85 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: finally Big Thing three is moving on. We can officially 86 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: check off the combine off the list. And now we 87 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: get ready for free agency, which starts next week. And 88 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: from Trent Balky's comments, we're getting ready for a pretty 89 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: busy week around here. No, the plans aggressive, I think 90 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,799 Speaker 1: you know again, the fan base expects it, the fan base, 91 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: but we're gonna be smart. We're not just gonna go 92 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: make a move to make it. Uh, because the locker 93 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: room and and this is what fans don't see a 94 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: lot of times. You know, the players in those locker rooms, 95 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: they know what's going on, and they know a good 96 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: player from a bad player. Turn on the film, they 97 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: see it. So just because you go out and make 98 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: a splash in free agency and everybody gets excited, how 99 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: often do those players turn out to be difference makers? 100 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: And there you have it. Those are big things. Let's 101 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: go all the way back up to Big Thing one. 102 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: The franchise tag deadline is this afternoon. We have not 103 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: heard anything. I think I can kind of speak for everyone. 104 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: We don't expect it to happen, but if it does, 105 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised, especially if it's camera, I'd be surprised. Yeah, yeah, 106 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:43,679 Speaker 1: I do. I mean, I think if you're gonna work, 107 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: if you if you look at where you're at, the 108 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: draft is a unique situation. You have the opportunity, I think, 109 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: to improve yourself at offensive tackle and get a lot 110 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: less expensive. Um. I don't know why, with the dearth 111 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: of tackles. UM, I don't know why you wouldn't do that. Um, 112 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: but I would be surprised if they did it. I 113 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if they announced new deals for them, right, 114 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: if you're gonna keep cam, if you're gonna keep DJ Charcolate. 115 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: We talked about the Jaguar's reporters yesterday. I wouldn't be 116 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: surprised at that. But I think the tag would surprise 117 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: me because the amount you'd be committing on another one 118 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: year deal when a distinct opportunity to improve yourself and 119 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: to get less expensive is sitting right in front of you. Yeah, 120 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: it would, Uh, I guess I'm fifty fifty which is 121 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: bad TV. He supposed to have a take. But I 122 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: could see them franchising Cam and then working out a 123 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: new deal. Uh, that would be more than route I 124 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: would expect. I would not expect him to play on 125 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: the tag. I could easily see. Sometimes the franchise tag 126 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: is used as a tool to give you some time 127 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: to go ahead, and uh that's the does get a 128 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: long term deal. Uh. You know, I guess I still 129 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: see and think that there is a strong school of 130 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: thought for keeping Cam and then going a different direction 131 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: other than the left tackle in the draft. Uh, they 132 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: haven't given much of a clue as to how they 133 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: feel about the offensive line on that front, they're gonna 134 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: be operating. I don't have a good vibe for how 135 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: much they like or don't like Cam Robinson. Well, here's 136 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: here's my question. I guess you could say, is if 137 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: you don't use the franchise tag and you still give 138 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: Cam a new deal and you still draft Evanyl. I 139 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: heard that situation played out on tent t x L, 140 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: and I thought to myself, Okay, well is that kind 141 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: of a waste thing totally? Because you drafted a walk 142 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: a little last year and now I mean I get 143 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: the options for offensive line. That's great to have options, 144 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: but at that point I see that as a waste 145 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: of money on I think if they did that, I 146 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: don't think they would sign Cam to a long term deal. 147 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: I think if if they did that, that would be 148 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: a franchise tag Cam and then you draft Evan Neal 149 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: with the idea of playing him inside for a year 150 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: and then moving him out when Cam leaves. It's a 151 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: school thought. The Ravens did that at one point with 152 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: playing Ogden inside. They played the guard but an Tony 153 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: Jones who was making four million dollars a year back. 154 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: Then if you are hell bent this year on we're 155 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: going at the best offensive line this year and then 156 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: continue that build. That's not an absurd scenario for a 157 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: one year deal when you've got the cap space they have, 158 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: But I don't think they'll do it. But if you 159 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: have so many needs and you want to use that 160 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: cap space to attack other needs, free agency is a 161 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: good place to do that. There's not a Jamaar Chases 162 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: Charles Davis mentioned in this year's wide receiver group um, 163 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: but there are some difference making kind of guys apparently, 164 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: who are going to hit the market, Maybe you rather 165 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: spend your money there then on another tackle. This remains 166 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: a fascinating area that I'm not sure I can ever 167 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: remember this many moving parts in the Jaguars offensive line. 168 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: If you do these things we're talking about, does that 169 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: automatically when you walk a little on the right side 170 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: or which he's left? Tackle? Yeah? Can you play all 171 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: right tackle? Are you bringing Brandon Lender back? Are you 172 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: assume you're letting it Andrew Norwell go? Well? Assuming that, 173 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: but they haven't said that. So there's a lot of 174 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: moving parts, especially Lender and Joan Taylor, who people aren't 175 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: really talking about your future. I don't know other future, 176 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: but it's going to come out to play in the 177 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: next week or so. Those are the two guys, right, 178 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 1: I mean the other three guys agent Can free agent, 179 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: Norwell free agent, Cam Robinson free agent. So you're talking 180 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: about massive turnover on the offensive line. I don't know. 181 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: I don't know where you go with this, but I 182 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: think you can do yourself a real solid by drafting 183 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: Neil moving little and I think you can create a 184 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: scenario where you I just don't the Robinson and then 185 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: Neil thing. I don't see that, do you worry. Then 186 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: if that's the case where you have Neil and then 187 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: walk a little on the other side, is the offensive 188 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: line too young and that scenario. I don't think you 189 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: can be too young on the offensive line when you'd 190 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: be very good. Yeah, you can be too not good, 191 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: which but I think that would be a scenario where 192 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: I would feel like they're pretty good. Uh, two young tackles. Yeah, 193 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: I guess if Evan Neil is worth the number one 194 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: overall pick, that shouldn't be a concern. Yeah. Absolutely. Let's 195 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: quickly talk about d J Chark with the franchise tage. 196 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: We don't expect that to happen. DJ Chark looking for 197 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: big money, looking for that big contract. Not sure if 198 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: the Jaguars are going to pay him that big money. 199 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: We'd like to see a deal worked out, or it 200 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: can come in the middle. I don't know if we're 201 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: gonna expect that with DJ Chark. All it takes is 202 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: one and every year there's a player that surprises with 203 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: the money he gets. All the red flags about Chark 204 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: are there, right, has done it one time, has struggled 205 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: with injuries. Um, but somebody will look at his frame, 206 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: they'll look at his speed, they'll talk to him and 207 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: get a feel for the kind of person he is, 208 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: and we all know he's a fantastic human being, and say, 209 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: this is where the investment to write him a big check. 210 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: Here's the Yeah. Keep going back to the concern and 211 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: I don't really expect them to retain DJ. I hope 212 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: they do, and you know, I sort of think it 213 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: would be a good move. I for these reasons. He's 214 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: really had one significant injury and it was an ankle, 215 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: and there's no reason you can't come back from that. 216 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: I don't since DJ Chark is injury brown. I think 217 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: he was really saddled in two thousand and twenty with 218 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: a difficult quarterback situation. I think he excelled in a 219 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: weird quarterback situation in two thousand nineteen, and he was 220 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: like a lot of different guys as a rookie who 221 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: just sort of took a while to again. So a 222 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,599 Speaker 1: strong argument can be made. I keep going back. I 223 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: think he's gonna be a better year five through eight 224 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: receiver than he was a year one. Believe him. Yeah, 225 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: but um, But at the same token, the people making 226 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: decisions here, Trent Balky included a lot of personnel people 227 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: they haven't seen DJ when they're with the team have 228 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: a huge year. So it's this is tricky. This is 229 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: really tricky to go get me Allen Robinson to put 230 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: on the other side, because he's that alpha who will fight. 231 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: He's got the physical nature to his game that I 232 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: don't believe the d J Chark does. Let Chark be 233 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: the guy that goes down the field. Let Allen Robinson 234 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: be the guy that goes across the middle. I'd like 235 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: to draft someone. I'd like that, right, But that means 236 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: you and d J Chart need to come to an agreement, 237 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: which means how much money can you spend on wide receivers? Right? 238 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: And I just here's the scenario that I see playing 239 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: out with DJ. I think the Jaguars would like him 240 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: back at a certain number, and they're gonna go to 241 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: him with a number, and he's gonna say, well, it's 242 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: people say why should we take that number? Because there's 243 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: going to be teams interested. They're gonna be above that number. 244 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: I think the jag was gonna say, well thanks, but 245 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: no thanks. That's absolutely what happened with Allen Robinson when 246 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: he left. And then you have the fear that he 247 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: goes and becomes a superstar for another teams Alan did 248 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: in Chicago. Absolutely so, Yes, it'll be tricky, to say 249 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: the least. That is big things. When we come back 250 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: on Jaguars Drivetime, Mike Renner from Pro Football Focus joins 251 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: us on the Jaguars Digital Network. We're back to Jaguars 252 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: Drive Time and it's Tuesday morning. We are a couple 253 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 1: of days off of the NFL Combine and this man 254 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: Will is very busy last week. Mike Runner from Pro 255 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: Football Focus joins us. Now, Mike, good morning, Hey, thanks 256 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: for having me on. And still busy here. I never 257 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 1: stopped free draft. Yes, we are in draft season officially, 258 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: and speaking of draft, the Jaguars had the number one 259 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: overall pick obviously, and we heard so many options at 260 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: the combine offensive line. Hutchinson, what avenue do you foresee 261 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: the Jaguars going down? And really, who's the best player 262 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: in your opinion? My opinion, the best players Aidan Hutchinson. 263 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: And when you're a team like Jacksonville jaguarris that has 264 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: needs littered all over that roster, I think you just 265 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 1: got to lean best player. There are other avenues I 266 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 1: guess that you wanted to help out Trevor Lawrence. But 267 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: to me, there are other avenues to doing that that 268 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: aren't just using that number one overall pick on that player. 269 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: To me, Aidan Hutchinson proved that he is an elite 270 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: edge rusher at the combine. Obviously on tape. His tape 271 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: is Night and Dave from literally anyone else in this 272 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: draft class on the edge. You saw that high state game, 273 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: you saw that Iowa game. The way he dominated was 274 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: Chase young ask in terms of how he took over 275 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: um and then he maybe he didn't blaze the fastest forty, 276 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: but his ten split, you know, get off to ten 277 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: yards down the field, that forty was the same as 278 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: Trayvon Walkers. He ran four or five one, which is 279 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: all you really needed defensive end. You really only need 280 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: to go ten yards and there's three comb was almost 281 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: identical to von Miller's. At six ft seven, two sixty. 282 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: This guy can turn. This guy has that agility that 283 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: you want off the edge, and to me, he's the 284 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: safest thing in the draft. And with the Jaguars the 285 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: way the draft the past few years, they just need 286 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: a w At this point, Hey, Mike, where did the 287 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: first round grades end? In the first round this year. 288 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I think last year, I remember hearing that 289 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: between pick eight and pick forty there wasn't that much 290 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: differentiation at any given position where how many difference makers 291 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: are they're truly elite players in this draft. That's the thing. 292 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: This year's draft does not have nearly as many as 293 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: last year's. Did you think back to last year? You 294 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: went to pick like thirteen, like Mica Parsons comes off 295 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: the board at twelve. You had Shann Slatter at thirty, 296 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: and those guys were pro bowlers. You know, you're one, 297 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: which rarely happens, and those guys were They weren't even 298 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: thought of as no one's even regretting it because the 299 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: guy's Jamar Chase and they still the guys you have 300 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: to ahead of them more league too. So to me, 301 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: there's really only a couple i'd call blue chip prospects 302 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: that their respective positions as Aidan Hutchinson and Kyle Hamilton's 303 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: from Notre Dame, the safety like, those are guys that 304 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: are rare for their respective positions. And there's a lot 305 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: of guys who are in that first round mix. So 306 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: if once you get past the top few picks, I 307 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: think the difference between like a you know, everyone's talking 308 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: about this Taffle class, but like an Ikiakwana and say 309 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: a Trevor Penning out of Northern Iowa isn't too dissimilar. 310 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: So the first round grades to me and somewhere around 311 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: the mid twenties. But this is a deep class. On 312 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: day two, I think second and third round grades, we 313 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: had over eighty guys in that mix, So there's a 314 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: lot of talent once you get past sort of like 315 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: where the Jaggles would be drafted in the second round, 316 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: third round, there's a lot of guys that should still 317 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: be available with them. Mike, speaking of that, uh, second 318 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: round pick, I'm assuming that the Jaguars are going to 319 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: be taking receiver there. That could be wrong, but that's 320 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: my assumption. How strong is this group right around that area? 321 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: And sort of secondly, uh, is this is the case 322 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: where you can get a pretty good wide receiver at 323 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: the top of the third or do you need to 324 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: go top of the second to address that the top 325 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: of the third, I can see the class being cooked 326 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: at the top of the second. It's been like the 327 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: sweet spot in recent years if you think about that's 328 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: where Deebo, Samuel came off the board. That's where te Higgins, 329 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: Michael Pittman came off the board, That's where Elijah Moore 330 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: came off the board last year, like there's been a 331 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: lot of wide receiver talent, there's been kind of NFL 332 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: ready and could even be your number one type of 333 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: wide receivers that come off the board in the second 334 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: but by the third not nearly as many. Once you 335 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: get to their um people still do well of identifying 336 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: the athletes that win at that position. They do go 337 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: highly so the top of the second round there could 338 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: be like a John Dotson, I could see a Crystal 339 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: LaVey being on the board, maybe like a sky More 340 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: out of Western Michigan. There will be a lot of 341 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: talent there that it's gonna be, and even more so 342 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: Initier's class than even last year's class, where you have 343 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: a bunch of different body types. Last year was a 344 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: lot of undersized guys that were coming off the board 345 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: and round two this year you have you know, six 346 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: ft three, uh George Pickens from Georgia who would have 347 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: probably gone first round had to been healthy. This year 348 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: you have Justin Ross from Clemson who had to where 349 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 1: a thousand yards as a true freshman, like you have 350 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 1: anse six ft four, like you have a lot of 351 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: different body types. But I think will still be on 352 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: the board there where they're picking the top second round. 353 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: It makes too much sense to give your quarterbacks and 354 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: health there. Hey, Mike, outside of Aidan Hutchinson, whose virtues 355 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: you've already extolled, who's your favorite player in this draft? 356 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm regardless, first round, second round, day three, who's someone 357 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: that you've fallen in love with for their production, the 358 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: type of person they are, what you saw from them 359 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. Well, the guy hasn't really been talked about 360 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: because I think he's everyone's fair player, and it's Kyle 361 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: Hamilton's from Notre Dame. He's so unique in that he's 362 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: six ft four to twenty. The amount of safeties that 363 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: are playing in the NFL a day six ft four 364 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: to twenty, I don't think there are like he has 365 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: a unique size, speed, explosive, this athlete at that position. 366 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: And to me, he's very like, very much like Isaiah 367 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: Simmons coming out and that he's gonna be covered first versatility, 368 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: But to me, it's so much smooth than Isaiah Mint, 369 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: so much more productive in terms of getting his hand 370 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: on the football at the collegiate level that I don't 371 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: really care where you play them. Whoever does draft him, 372 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a productive player, all kinds 373 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: of options at number one overall a good place to 374 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: be for the Jaguars. Mike, thanks so much for your time. 375 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining Jags Drive Time for sure, thanks 376 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: for having me on you guys going absolutely when we 377 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: come back on the Jaguars Digital Network, we have sell 378 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: us on your pick. The guys we just talked about, 379 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna sell you on those options coming back. The 380 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: time is now to renew your two Jaguars season tickets. 381 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: Coach Doug Peterson and quarterback Trevor Lawrence are here, so 382 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: don't miss a second of the action. Go to Jaguars 383 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: dot com to renew. Today. We're back Jaguars Drive Time. 384 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: We are a couple of days off of the NFL 385 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: Combine where we have learned a lot about these prospects. 386 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: The she's that number one overall and we are going 387 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: to sell you on our pick, and Brian is up 388 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: with a guy who's very popular. Well, I mean, how 389 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: could you not? I can we just rerac with Mike 390 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: Renner said about Aighton Hutchinson six ft seven two and 391 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: sixty pounds, was stupendous in the three cone drill, which 392 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: is a great measurement for how a guy moves and 393 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: changes direction and can pursue you know, a quarterback or 394 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: a running back. The guy's tremendous football player. Um made 395 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: for the game right. Father Chris was Big Ten Player 396 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: of the Year, kind of guy didn't get much time 397 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: in the NFL, but grew up loving Michigan, played at Michigan, 398 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: productive at Michigan, dominated last year. If you want a 399 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: playmaker and you don't think about offensive tackles being a playmaker, 400 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: this is your guy. This is the guy who can 401 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: change a game in a heartbeat. M Evan neil or 402 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: Ikey A Quantum was probably the you know, the guy 403 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: that gives you the chance to dominate and let playmakers go. 404 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: But if you want to put a on a field 405 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: and what highlights this is it. He's a double digit 406 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: sack guy um from the get go. And he's got 407 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: a a J. J. Watt quality about him, right, He's 408 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: always working. You know J. J. Watt would would go 409 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: to practice and then you go lift and then you 410 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: go to second practice and go lift, and then he 411 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: lived on his off days. He was always doing something, 412 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: uh to create the best outcome for himself. It feels 413 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: like it with this guy connecting with Tom Brady before 414 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: his career really even starts to get on the right 415 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: track with the TV twelve and the food and all 416 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: of that stuff. That that that greatest longevity, and Tom 417 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: Brady is a great model for longevity. So I'm impressed 418 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: with him. If you put his hand on the ground immediately, 419 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: especially with Josh Allen on the other side, you have 420 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: got a dynamic combination of pass rush that will make 421 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: your football team better. It will put your quarterback in 422 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: a great situation because he'll flip the field, he'll get 423 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,719 Speaker 1: a sack strip, and he'll give you the ball at 424 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: a moment when you need it most. He's that kind 425 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: of a guy. So if he's the numb an overall pick, 426 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: people should be really excited. Yeah, And I just keep 427 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: Trent Balky in San Francisco made hey with pass rushers. 428 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: He likes pass rushers, He's he likes a disruptive defensive lineman. 429 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 1: I just keep seeing scenarios in my mind where this 430 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: is the pick and somehow they uh go different directions 431 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: of the offensive line. But that's Briant's pick for today, 432 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go a different direction. I'm gonna go 433 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: with my guy, Ikey. Don't call me Icky, and uh, 434 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: you know, I think there's not that much of a 435 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: difference between him and Evan Neil at tackle. Uh what 436 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 1: has happened this week? If you notice you've had post 437 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: combine reversal, all these mock drafters who were assuming it 438 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 1: was Evan Neil have gone. Icky's a great interview. He 439 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: worked out at the Combine. He's a mean guy, he's tough. 440 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: So all of a sudden, everybody's mocking Ikey to the Jags. 441 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: I don't know that anything has really changed from the 442 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: Combine from their perspect active. I like this guy in 443 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: terms of his aggressiveness. I like him in terms of 444 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: all of the things that you like in an offensive tackle. 445 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: I like his personality. If they drafted him, I would 446 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 1: have zero problem with it. I just keep going back 447 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: to it. To me, I just can't get away from 448 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: this thing that I see an edgeresser standing on the 449 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: podium for this team in April. But if it's a tackle, 450 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: I could easily see. You know a quantu. Your guy 451 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: reminds me his game tape right from North Carolina. It 452 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: reminds me of Quentin Nelson's tape at Notre Dame. He 453 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: was a nasty finisher. He never let anyone get up 454 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: off the ground without letting him know I'm still here. 455 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: I love that. I love watching Quentin Nelson play. Who 456 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: likes watching guards play? Well, when it's that guy, you 457 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: watch it. Same thing with him. His tape is fantastic. Um. 458 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: You know, he doesn't have the height and the length 459 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: measurables that a guy like Evan Neil does, but he's 460 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 1: got the intangible that seek and destroy quality that a 461 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: Tony Baselli great. That is making Quentin Nelson great. Um, 462 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: if that's him great, all great options. You mentioned those measurables. 463 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: Evan Neil six ft seven, three hundred and thirty seven pounds, 464 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: but does not move like it. This is your number 465 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: one overall pick. At least I'm arguing forward after the combine. 466 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: Everyone's talking about it, and that's what makes me hesitate, 467 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: because the combine talk you always hear, oh well, this 468 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: is the pick, and then it never works out that way. 469 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: So I'm a little hesitant with this mentioned the Iowa 470 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: tight ends. A couple of years ago, we were for 471 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: sure the Jaguars are going to take Hutchinson and then 472 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: Josh Allen falls them and things always shake up that way. 473 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 1: But you wouldn't be upset if Evan Neil is on 474 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: the podium in April, because this is gonna be your 475 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: left tackle. We talk about the versatility he has on 476 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 1: the offensive line, played a couple of positions. You're drafting 477 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: him to be your left tackle, and you're happy about 478 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 1: it because we've talked all year about giving Trevor Lawrence weapons. 479 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: Protecting Trevor Lawrence. It's pretty obvious that's priority number one 480 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: here in this building in the city. Here's your option 481 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: protect Trevor lawre with this guy. Yeah. The thing that 482 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 1: Renters said that really resonated to me and that people 483 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: were talking about the combine and it applies to all 484 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: three of these players the Jaguar in a year where 485 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: there is not really an absolute standout, you know, there 486 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: are questions about all three of these guys, and you 487 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 1: hear wondering at the combine if any of them are 488 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: truly generational in the way that Chase Young Trevor Lawrence Bossa, 489 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: guys who you know, sort of look like Hall of 490 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: famers right from the start, and you know Tvior doesn't 491 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: look like that yet. You know my point, Um, in 492 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: a year where there's not that uh, Aidan Hutchinson from 493 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: what a lot of people talk about, seems to be 494 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: the safer out of the three. So again, I wonder 495 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: if Trent Balky and Doug Peterson might eventually go that direction, knowing, hey, 496 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: we need to make sure this guy is at least good. 497 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: We can't miss on this. That was a talk about 498 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: Hutchinson and is that he was the most like that 499 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: of any of the three guys. Just throw it out there, Slynn. 500 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: If you grade these three players and one guy has 501 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: a higher grade than the other two, take that guy 502 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: because these are both positions of need, because they're going 503 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: to be good football players. If not, you know, um uh, 504 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: you know, generational talents and you can't go wrong. I mean, 505 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: there's there's what was it we talked about yesterday. There's 506 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 1: a couple of key positions, right the quarterback, the guy 507 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: who protects him, the guy that rushes him, the receiver 508 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: he throws too, and the guy who covers him right. 509 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: So left tackle, defensive end, corner, wide receiver, and quarterback. 510 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: You've got to be great there if you're going to 511 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: be a great football team. Um, the three guys we've 512 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: talked about fit those two positions. Yeah. And the more 513 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: we talk about it and what we heard from the combine, 514 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: when you ask draft analysts who's the best athlete, they 515 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: all say Hutchinson. And Charles Davis made a great point. Okay, Well, 516 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: if you're the Jaguars and you know you need an 517 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: offensive lineman, could that be seen as reaching when you're 518 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: not taking the best athlete on the board when you 519 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: put it that way, Okay, the maybe Hudgson is the 520 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: right pick at that point. It's got the highest grade taken. Ye. 521 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: So that has sell us on your number one overall pick. 522 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: All great options for the Jaguars. We're gonna talk about 523 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: this at great length until April. Stay with us on 524 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time. 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