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Speaker 3: knew all that to did for their TV experience, so
Speaker 3: she's like one in there. So ended up six days
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Speaker 3: lot of times I missed her birthday this year, like
Speaker 3: now I'm not gonna miss it year on your senior year,
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Speaker 3: when getting big hug, when he got to stay, he
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Speaker 4: So now talk about people care about Trey Lance.
Speaker 2: Trey Lance.
Speaker 3: Cowboys gave up next year's fourth round pick to get
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty one number three overall quarterback that the
Speaker 3: San Francisco forty nine ers gave.
Speaker 4: Up three number one picks.
Speaker 5: Four.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start with you positive heck spin on this.
Speaker 2: He just hit us with the lit.
Speaker 7: Yes, God, that's wild, put it on and put it
Speaker 7: put it light on, Maga hot hots.
Speaker 2: What about Trey Lance? What do you want me to
Speaker 2: say about that?
Speaker 5: Big h You know, look, it's probably a move that's
Speaker 5: made for future insurance. People will talk about leverage with
Speaker 5: Trey Lance and all that. I didn't look at the
Speaker 5: move as as anything short of a young, up and
Speaker 5: coming quarterback that possibly could be developed in your system.
Speaker 2: That's all I saw.
Speaker 5: I didn't see any of the Dak competition arguments. I
Speaker 5: didn't think that this was a It couldn't be a
Speaker 5: If it's a leverage move, then you up the standards
Speaker 5: on who the guy is, his experience in the NFL,
Speaker 5: all of those things. So I don't think that Dak,
Speaker 5: excuse me, Dak is threatened by bringing in Trey Lance.
Speaker 5: I think if anything for Dak after Trey Lance has
Speaker 5: been bought on, for me, if I want to put
Speaker 5: a positive spin on it, I hope that Dak embraces
Speaker 5: Trey Lance, takes him under his wing and teaches him
Speaker 5: everything that he needs to know about playing the quarterback position,
Speaker 5: because I doubt he got that when he was in
Speaker 5: San Francisco from Garoppolo or anybody else that was trying
Speaker 5: to help him develop as a quarterback. This a young
Speaker 5: guy six three, two hundred and twenty five pounds and
Speaker 5: can run, the armstrength, decision making, all of those things
Speaker 5: need to be settled. I mean, he's very inexperienced, won
Speaker 5: the job last year but then lost it do the injury,
Speaker 5: and you know, mister relevant Josh Wally, he.
Speaker 2: Ran, he ran out with the bag. So yes, Sammy
Speaker 2: came and got it too.
Speaker 5: He got got and so but look, man, no one's
Speaker 5: welcomed his brother to Dallas. So welcome the cowboy nation,
Speaker 5: my man, Trey Lance. And look, like I said, if
Speaker 5: you guys are gonna try and stir the pot and
Speaker 5: say that this in some way is Dak needing to
Speaker 5: be on his best behavior because Trey Lance is standing
Speaker 5: behind him, I'm gonna be really intrigued by that, right,
Speaker 5: Oh you want me to go, yeah, I listen. I
Speaker 5: think I think that the most confusing part is what
Speaker 5: everybody else is talking about him, like we're not gonna
Speaker 5: tell nobody that we're gonna that we're going to get
Speaker 5: the guy, uh and and not telling people, which you
Speaker 5: got the right not to do that. But then now
Speaker 5: it's a big thing, right because now everybody knows. And then,
Speaker 5: like you said, you get to see Dak out there.
Speaker 5: He didn't look happy, uh with having to answer the
Speaker 5: question or his response. They didn't look happy. He didn't
Speaker 5: look happy doing that either. I do think it's a
Speaker 5: little strange for whatever, for whatever we want to say,
Speaker 5: all right, yeah, it's not this is not that the
Speaker 5: timing of it. You know, with contract coming up, Dak
Speaker 5: has been injured for the last couple of years where
Speaker 5: he had to miss time.
Speaker 2: So you look at it and you say, let's for
Speaker 2: Dak more man, what's up with Cooper Rush?
Speaker 5: My man did nothing last year but prove that he
Speaker 5: was probably probably one of the most serviceable backups in
Speaker 5: the league. All right, Now, now you got Trey Lance
Speaker 5: coming up in here, right and Dak coming up on
Speaker 5: a contract issue next season, a guy who has been injured.
Speaker 5: So if Dak misses tom now, now you're gonna have
Speaker 5: that conversation of like who who is it? Is it
Speaker 5: Cooper Rush or is it Trey Lance? And then you
Speaker 5: said develop him for what?
Speaker 2: Why? Develop them into what the.
Speaker 5: First round that they hoped that he was gonna be
Speaker 5: when they had him on the draft board, Because if
Speaker 5: that happens, then what if you are a to develop
Speaker 5: Trey Lance into what you had hoped he would be,
Speaker 5: then what And then you already hope that Dak is
Speaker 5: what you've paid him to be, eighty million dollars to
Speaker 5: be a championship quarter a caliber quarterback. Two things, This
Speaker 5: is my new saying. Two things can be true. At
Speaker 5: the same time, two things can be true. Dak is
Speaker 5: still Dak. He has he can't be threatened by God.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that should be threatened. I'm talking about
Speaker 5: the decision to do it. You pick him up, like
Speaker 5: you said, you said, probably to develop him into being
Speaker 5: what everybody had hoped he would be when San Francisco
Speaker 5: gave up all those picks and you say, number three
Speaker 5: pick in the draft. He has the potential to be Scott.
Speaker 5: His potential sky high. Right, Okay, change of scenery here,
Speaker 5: coming over to Dallas. Now we're gonna get him and
Speaker 5: we're gonna hopefully develop him into what we had thought
Speaker 5: he was going to be. Once you reach that point, right,
Speaker 5: if you do, if you are able to develop him
Speaker 5: into the number three pick, the guy would all the potential.
Speaker 2: Then what.
Speaker 5: Then you hope another team wants him and you can
Speaker 5: potentially use that as a bargainership for a higher trade.
Speaker 5: That's what I believe, because if you're paying eighty million
Speaker 5: dollars to a quarterback, Dak is about to be extended.
Speaker 5: How many more years did that does that give him
Speaker 5: on his contract? Are we talking about another three four
Speaker 5: years with Dak? On contract here the Dallas Cowboys, and
Speaker 5: I think within three to four years that development that
Speaker 5: we're talking about with Trey Lance will have happened in
Speaker 5: that bargainership could be parlayed into higher picks they extended.
Speaker 5: All right, that's you just you just just said that
Speaker 5: that's what's only horizon for dak So No, I didn't
Speaker 5: say that. Okay, I didn't say nothing about so you
Speaker 5: don't so you don't feel as though this team is
Speaker 5: going to extend. I said, there's a contract issue coming
Speaker 5: up next year where you are going to decide.
Speaker 2: Okay, you have to decide.
Speaker 5: But I'm saying in the meantime, you got a number
Speaker 5: three pick that's behind Cooper Rus.
Speaker 2: What people are gonna say, all right, well why is
Speaker 2: he here? Why? Then?
Speaker 6: I mean, I understand it a little, but I guess,
Speaker 6: you know, overall, I just think it was a strange
Speaker 6: move when I think about it, because look what we're
Speaker 6: talking about a guy in Trei Lance. Yes, he was
Speaker 6: a third overall pick, but I mean, look, the guy's inexperience.
Speaker 6: He played what seventeen games in college total? Maybe if
Speaker 6: that you know, came here, couldn't really beat out the
Speaker 6: guys that he needed to beat out to become that guy.
Speaker 6: So I don't think Dak's threatned at all, you know
Speaker 6: by traad. To me, I think it was a strange
Speaker 6: move because you can use that fourth to address some
Speaker 6: other issues on the squad.
Speaker 4: I think there's more priorities on the squad.
Speaker 6: Than getting up guy that maybe can contend for a
Speaker 6: backup and maybe he has a high ceiling and can beat
Speaker 6: this guy.
Speaker 2: But to me, you were.
Speaker 6: Set, you had Cooper Rush at the backup quarterback. You
Speaker 6: could have developed will grit. Nobody's asking will Grid to
Speaker 6: come out here and be, you know, something special, but
Speaker 6: he could have got developed in there. There's other needs
Speaker 6: on this team, talking about the offensive line that I
Speaker 6: think we could have spent the fourth round or on
Speaker 6: to bring someone in. I mean, you talk about guys
Speaker 6: that we have here, now, well let's go. He was
Speaker 6: basically red shirted shoulder injury.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 6: I mean, they say nothing's really wrong with him, but
Speaker 6: you know, can he withstand seventeen games? We know what
Speaker 6: you know, seventy seven can have you know, can happen
Speaker 6: on that side. So I just feel like there was
Speaker 6: there was we could have took that fourth rounder and
Speaker 6: could have addressed other needs on the team besides a
Speaker 6: backup quarterback. I understand he could be super athletic and
Speaker 6: the ceiling is high, but when you're already set at
Speaker 6: that position, I mean, I just don't see why.
Speaker 2: That's why did we address a backup quarterback need? And
Speaker 2: that's another So that's that's why.
Speaker 5: That's what makes it more confusing, Like why so, so
Speaker 5: then what next He's just gonna be back up here
Speaker 5: with Cooper Rush's there, or we think we're gonna lose
Speaker 5: Cooper Russ.
Speaker 2: Like what I'm it's not my you know, not mine.
Speaker 5: Cooper Rush was a free agent at the end of
Speaker 5: this season and no one picked him up and he
Speaker 5: ended up resigning with us. So why is it okay
Speaker 5: to develop Will Grier but not developed Trey Lance a
Speaker 5: talent that you know that the ceiling is a lot
Speaker 5: higher than Will Greer. I mean, moves are made all
Speaker 5: the time, and that's that's just one that was made.
Speaker 5: Nobody's crying about the fourth round draft pick that that
Speaker 5: was giving up because you can always pick up another
Speaker 5: one during the season.
Speaker 2: So I mean, listen, I like that.
Speaker 5: I can tell you like them a lot of course
Speaker 5: I do, of course, but even with that sarcasm, me
Speaker 5: and you both know that Dak's back is against the
Speaker 5: wall and he has to perform this year, even for
Speaker 5: that contract that you're talking about, right, I.
Speaker 2: Know, but that's what we're saying, though.
Speaker 5: We said the timing based off the fact that we
Speaker 5: do know that Dak needs to perform this year, and
Speaker 5: the timing of picking up that draft pick is what
Speaker 5: makes it like, oh, now you have to really think
Speaker 5: about why it happened versus if this was Dak just
Speaker 5: signing this contract a couple of years ago, then you
Speaker 5: wouldn't have that same thought. Then it would be more
Speaker 5: of like, oh, yeah, they just developed, developing him and
Speaker 5: then hopefully they can use him as a trade piece.
Speaker 5: The timing of like people have been talking about extending
Speaker 5: Dak and then all of a sudden you go trade
Speaker 5: a fourth to get a guy to come in here
Speaker 5: is what makes it questionable. Even if it's not, it's
Speaker 5: just the timing has you have to start asking those
Speaker 5: questions just because of the time of the situation.
Speaker 3: So Dallas looked they looked at a quarterback this year
Speaker 3: the draft, and Jerry Jones openly talked a lot about
Speaker 3: Duggan of TCU, a player. They didn't take it, but
Speaker 3: they smoke about we were looking at a quarterback. I
Speaker 3: remember a couple of years ago being telling me, if
Speaker 3: I'm correct you, I actually go pull up my book here.
Speaker 3: But what was it maybe three four years ago? They
Speaker 3: use a fifth round pick on Mike White. So we're
Speaker 3: talking about a Day three pick, which is basically when
Speaker 3: Jerry drafts guys. Stephen McGee was a Day three pick
Speaker 3: as a fourth rounder as well. So you gave up
Speaker 3: a Day three pick for a position that you could
Speaker 3: have potentially taken issue, but you didn't because you didn't
Speaker 3: have the guy you wanted you and you could have
Speaker 3: taken next year looking at that, So, I don't understand
Speaker 3: the issue of people like, oh my gosh, fourth round
Speaker 3: pick or third day pick, that's when they were going
Speaker 3: to do.
Speaker 2: They were never using the first or second.
Speaker 3: Round or third round pick on a quarterback. That's just
Speaker 3: not Jerry's mo. Secondly, many times on this Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 3: dot Com, these podcasts, people have openly said you should
Speaker 3: do what Ron Wolf used to do, draft a quarterback
Speaker 3: each year, always be developing a guy.
Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy's spoken about developing guys.
Speaker 3: When Bill Parcels was here, he used to say, I
Speaker 3: want to turn the bottom of the rosters. At the
Speaker 3: bottom of the roster is constantly going to be changing around.
Speaker 3: I'm looking for people to take your job. Will Greer,
Speaker 3: as you spoke about, Okay, nice player, But is he
Speaker 3: put your chips down on Will Greer or twenty three
Speaker 3: year old Trey Lance. I would put my chips down
Speaker 3: a twenty three year old Trey Lance. If he develops
Speaker 3: into something, fine, it's a lottery ticket. If he doesn't,
Speaker 3: you move the way out the door. People tell me,
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, you're gonna make five million dolls because
Speaker 3: it makes nine hundred twenty four million dollars. Well, we
Speaker 3: trying to say Jerry Jones money for Jerry money. He's
Speaker 3: gonna figure it out. I'm not as offended as cowboy
Speaker 3: fans are.
Speaker 4: Trey Lance is due to start four games in this league.
Speaker 2: He doesn't know.
Speaker 3: He doesn't know this offense. Will Green and I spoke
Speaker 3: to Will when he first came here. After that first
Speaker 3: he said, man, I had to spend whole year playing
Speaker 3: catchup because you guys already know, haven't played it. Instaul's
Speaker 3: already over you trying to run up in here. Now
Speaker 3: I learn it, you know, it's look yeah like Calculus book.
Speaker 3: So Trey Lance this year for him to do something
Speaker 3: that means people got to get hurt. Okay, folks got
Speaker 3: to get hurt in order of him to get on
Speaker 3: the football field. This is about Trey Lance learning the offense.
Speaker 3: Then we go into camp next year, let's see.
Speaker 2: What he can do.
Speaker 4: But this this thing is not like the folks at
Speaker 4: the debate shows wanted to make you think that this
Speaker 4: dude right behind him, like Michael.
Speaker 3: Vick was going up here to play Philadelphia, and you
Speaker 3: had Donavannah.
Speaker 2: This ain't it. This ain't that. But and I'll end
Speaker 2: this thing here.
Speaker 3: Bill Walsh went around the room in San Francisco and
Speaker 3: asked all his assistants, which included guys like Mike Holgrid,
Speaker 3: we had an opportunity to trade for Steve Young. Everybody
Speaker 3: raised your hand and want Steve Young. Nobody raised their hand.
Speaker 3: Bill waltsh went out the door and he already made
Speaker 3: the trade. He thought there was something in Steve Young
Speaker 3: that he wanted to have. Keep in mind, at this
Speaker 3: point time, Joe won Super Bowls. You know, Joe's been
Speaker 3: the guy that coaches assistant comes to me, that's our guy.
Speaker 3: They didn't want any competition. I think Bill Walsh was
Speaker 3: proven correct.
Speaker 5: Bill wash asked the question after he'd already done it.
Speaker 5: I asked for a mission.
Speaker 3: What you think about it when you when your head coach?
Speaker 2: He g is, I'm gonna give you all opportunity. No,
Speaker 2: I love it, Bill.
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick drafts Jimmy Garoppolo while he's got doc.
Speaker 2: Did he ask Tom? And asked Tom? It's what it was.
Speaker 2: I mean this this.
Speaker 3: If Stephen Jones is going to be true to what
Speaker 3: he says, we're in the talent acquisition business in a
Speaker 3: three three sixty five, Okay, then it's three sixty five.
Speaker 3: If Dak Prescott goes out and does his job, guess what,
Speaker 3: it's nothing, it's nothing. He controls so much of this conversation.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, he controls it.
Speaker 5: So that's why that's why, that's why I think the
Speaker 5: issue comes in at to where, Okay, if he doesn't
Speaker 5: he controls it. Right, Let's say he has an off
Speaker 5: season and that that's when that's when it becomes an issue.
Speaker 5: Not we're not We're not this isn't an issue. Like
Speaker 5: I say, if he goes out and he's the Dak
Speaker 5: Prescott that doesn't like it's not an issue, then it's
Speaker 5: an issue if it doesn't, if it doesn't work out
Speaker 5: that way.
Speaker 4: As the Cowboys turn isn't it is cut down down.
Speaker 3: It is cut down day, and the official roster of
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Speaker 3: away from here, but let's just give our own thoughts
Speaker 3: as we're kind of we talked before, keeping three tight ends,
Speaker 3: keep three?
Speaker 2: What do we do here?
Speaker 3: What do you want to see? Especially now that Trey
Speaker 3: Lance is taking away a spot from somebody. He's gonna
Speaker 3: be on this fifty three. He's gonna be on the
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Speaker 2: I'm new he scruggs. Okay. I feel like we left that.
Speaker 3: Last segment that there was some there was there was
Speaker 3: still people still have thoughts and feelings.
Speaker 2: About Trey Lance and Dak president.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, my listen, it's not. I don't think that
Speaker 5: Trey Lance is here to take Dak Prescott spot. I think,
Speaker 5: like I said, the reason why it's such a big
Speaker 5: deal is the people are if you say, all right,
Speaker 5: Trey Lance is here, we're already trying to see what
Speaker 5: Dak Prescott is gonna do. Coming off two back to
Speaker 5: back losses San Francisco forty nine ers, he did not
Speaker 5: show up like like we expect him to show up, right,
Speaker 5: and then he led the league interceptions last season, So
Speaker 5: people are saying, if that continues, if that's if that,
Speaker 5: if that's the thing that's gonna happen this year, that's
Speaker 5: when this could possibly blow up into something big. I
Speaker 5: don't believe that Trey Lance is out here to take
Speaker 5: Dak Prescott' spot, but I believe you then open it
Speaker 5: up to the conversation to where if the season starts
Speaker 5: off and it's rough, there will be a conversation because
Speaker 5: the contract talks are gonna come into that. And then also,
Speaker 5: we picked up Trey Lance. Do I think he's better
Speaker 5: than Dak and he I know, I don't, But that's
Speaker 5: that's going to be the conversation. It's a natural conversation
Speaker 5: to have.
Speaker 6: So you think it's just like it'll be unnecessary drama
Speaker 6: if if we end up starting rough early.
Speaker 5: Listen, if you get bounced out the first round of
Speaker 5: playoffs and have a bad game, again, is it unnecessary?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know season.
Speaker 4: No, I'm just saying, yeah, okay, you go back to
Speaker 4: early in season. You gotta know the offense.
Speaker 3: Well, Greer just spoke a couple of days ago about
Speaker 3: feeling comfortable knowing the checks and everything else.
Speaker 6: I ain't talking about the cold, is Dad like, I'm
Speaker 6: sure they like, man, there's no I'm talking about the
Speaker 6: outside noise outside and people say all the.
Speaker 4: Time, Hey, I'm not hearing that I don't talk.
Speaker 5: About it, That's exactly And and what we were specifically
Speaker 5: talking about was Dak in the preseason interview where it
Speaker 5: seemed like he was bothered by the questions that he
Speaker 5: was getting about the acquisition of Trey Lance and the
Speaker 5: way that he answered, And to me, I noticed like
Speaker 5: Dak seemed a little bit more edgy. If you know
Speaker 5: Dak the way he answers questions, he seems very scripted.
Speaker 5: He's always on cold with everything that he has to say.
Speaker 5: For the first time I saw him in eyebrows all
Speaker 5: the way up to his camp. He was he was
Speaker 5: he was a little hot. He was a little bit
Speaker 5: of intense about the situation. And I felt that it
Speaker 5: was more or less. And when I saw that, I
Speaker 5: was like, Man, Dak, is Dak reading his news. He's
Speaker 5: seeing what these people are saying about him, and it's
Speaker 5: and as much as you want to say that he's
Speaker 5: oblivious to it, he's got to be hearing the whispers
Speaker 5: about interceptions in training camp. Man, oh, if Dak does
Speaker 5: this and what the expectations is as a lot of
Speaker 5: pressure on him, Yes, knew he.
Speaker 3: I think was there anybody who had more folks talking
Speaker 3: about their job and had the replacement lined up and
Speaker 3: in the building and out of the building. The Mike
Speaker 3: than Mike, absolutely nobody Mike McCarthy and I remember talking
Speaker 3: to Tony Dungee and Jason Garrett. We had interviews with
Speaker 3: the NBC and I asked them both about the pressure
Speaker 3: and what's going on, and he said, Mike's not gonna
Speaker 3: worry about He's going to go out and coach his team.
Speaker 4: He's going to control the building. That's what he can do.
Speaker 2: And he did it.
Speaker 3: And if Dak has any issues or questions that someone
Speaker 3: should tell him the same thing.
Speaker 2: Go do this.
Speaker 3: Or Tom Brady was here, Hey, Tom, had you handled
Speaker 3: when Jimmy Garoppolo came around? You're on Your uncle played
Speaker 3: with Terry Bradshaw who they took them one of the
Speaker 3: draft and for a while Terry was not good. That
Speaker 3: had Joe Gillam started started for the CEOs on that
Speaker 3: Super Bowl team.
Speaker 4: So this comes with the meal. We've seen great players
Speaker 4: who have to go through this.
Speaker 3: John Elway watched Tommy Maddox o LD Bell get drafts
Speaker 3: in the first round. John kept on playing.
Speaker 5: So most recently Green Bay just did the same thing,
Speaker 5: thank you, But but that doesn't take away from him
Speaker 5: not being able to feel played about the situation, like
Speaker 5: that's just a natural that's a natural thing. But he said,
Speaker 5: hey man, listen, being around his organization, I've come to
Speaker 5: expect stuff like this to happen, which means he's feeling slighted.
Speaker 2: Not just about this situation.
Speaker 5: I mean, this is something that's consistent with him that
Speaker 5: probably behind the scenes that we don't know about, where
Speaker 5: he's like, here we go again, but the same old
Speaker 5: stuff he's like, So I don't even I don't even
Speaker 5: think it's the noise. I think it's something internal where
Speaker 5: they you know, hey man, listen, you told me, you
Speaker 5: told me you was gonna tell me bro and.
Speaker 2: Then here we go, here we go again.
Speaker 5: You know I'm gonna You're gonna ask questions later, Like
Speaker 5: that's I think that that's what the face looked like
Speaker 5: to me. When when specifically when he said I just
Speaker 5: come to expect this type of stuff from around here
Speaker 5: in this organization.
Speaker 2: I was disappointed by that too, man.
Speaker 5: Between the lines that I was disappointed because he's made
Speaker 5: over eighty million dollars since he's been here, and right
Speaker 5: now he's in a position that they put a team
Speaker 5: around him, a defense around him. They brought in Brandon Cooks.
Speaker 5: He has everything right now to be positive about this
Speaker 5: team going out on the field next year.
Speaker 2: I understand that. I understand that.
Speaker 5: Wait, they made him wait to get that eighty didn't
Speaker 5: he made it wait? I mean, listen, we talked about
Speaker 5: this for a whole year on the show. We were
Speaker 5: sitting there, so we even went to the counsel. We're
Speaker 5: not even sure if they believe it. So in the
Speaker 5: year that he was we're talking about the year that
Speaker 5: he was a franchichise, Well, how much he make it
Speaker 5: under the franchise tag?
Speaker 2: That was a thirty five million and.
Speaker 5: Then he came right back and got a sixty six
Speaker 5: million dollars signing bonus. Right Yeah, I mean, I'm just saying,
Speaker 5: when the money. If somebody's paying you forty million dollars
Speaker 5: to do a job, and you've only won two playoff
Speaker 5: games since the time that you've been here, and you
Speaker 5: have a team in front of you that can actually
Speaker 5: you can see that we can get there with this
Speaker 5: group of guys, I'm not worried about trade last they
Speaker 5: didn't bring It's not like they brought in Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5: Now they brought in Aaron Rodgers. Are they drafted a
Speaker 5: guy win the first round? Then I'd be like, hey man,
Speaker 5: look now, wait a minute, that's going on. Wait a minute,
Speaker 5: my money right there? Am I being clear here? I
Speaker 5: don't think that Dak is worried about Trey Lan taking
Speaker 5: the spot. Oka I got that. I won't make sure
Speaker 5: and then and then again, franchise tag. All most players
Speaker 5: get upset, besides Tony Poler when they get franchise. I'm
Speaker 5: he was like, he got the franchisea I paid thirty
Speaker 5: All quarterbacks they got franchise tagle was upset. Yeah, cousins,
Speaker 5: he thought he was upset. He just you know what
Speaker 5: he knew he was never he was. And I know
Speaker 5: exactly why guys hate the franchise tag and what that
Speaker 5: means for playing under that for one million dollars.
Speaker 2: But let's I mean for one year for the dollar amount.
Speaker 5: But let's I act like this after all of that,
Speaker 5: the franchise didn't take care of him, and he's made
Speaker 5: a lot of money.
Speaker 2: I'm all the money.
Speaker 5: Aside, the expectation is there for Dak this year that
Speaker 5: if he doesn't go to NFC Championship.
Speaker 2: Let's call it that. We're gonna call it a fail year.
Speaker 2: Can we get that?
Speaker 5: Because he ghosted, he coasted Tom Brady and lost to
Speaker 5: San Francisco. And that's with twelve and five last year,
Speaker 5: and still that was a fail season.
Speaker 2: I gotta see how we lose. I ain't gonna if
Speaker 2: it don't happen.
Speaker 5: Because because that because that the Super Bowl would filly
Speaker 5: in uh in Kansas City just a minute ago. Ain't
Speaker 5: nobody blaming Jalen Hurst like that saying that it was
Speaker 5: a failed nothing?
Speaker 11: I am, of course, yeah, exactly who they played with
Speaker 11: the number one off Listen, that gonna be all right, man,
Speaker 11: Big Mike, Big Mike gonna take care of I don't
Speaker 11: doubt you might see he lands on a on a
Speaker 11: on a quarterback suite.
Speaker 2: That's about it, Chrispine during the broadcast.
Speaker 3: So, last twenty years, this is what the Cowboys has
Speaker 3: done in terms of drafting quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: Last twenty years.
Speaker 3: Oh nine, Steph McGee fourth round and then they drafted
Speaker 3: back in twenty sixteen fourth round pick, drafted Mike White,
Speaker 3: fifth round pick, and then Ben.
Speaker 4: De Nucci Gucci took him in the seventh round.
Speaker 2: Did any of those work? What d now, let's talk you.
Speaker 5: Outside of outside of that broke No, that is on
Speaker 5: the tip work. I'm talking about those.
Speaker 2: Mike White one game, Mike White one one or two
Speaker 2: games in the outside of did any of those work? Na? Okay?
Speaker 4: Oh one, Quincy Carter Quick, I ain't.
Speaker 2: Gonna think he got you need help, man.
Speaker 3: Using a fourth rounder is something that the Cowboys would
Speaker 3: have done on a quarterback.
Speaker 4: We've got the proof right here. So a fourth round
Speaker 4: on Trey Lance.
Speaker 3: I just don't think it's that big a deal on
Speaker 3: a twenty three year old quarterback who you had a
Speaker 3: second round grade on and you say, hey, we're gonna
Speaker 3: bring him in here.
Speaker 2: We see what we have.
Speaker 4: We got a guy right here somebody else want wanted
Speaker 4: the bullpen. We'll see what he can do. It's gotta
Speaker 4: learned the offense though.
Speaker 3: I mean, Trey Lance was a guy who was getting
Speaker 3: drilled okay on social media. I can't play you see
Speaker 3: the fee I mean Trey Lance, it's amazing. Before he
Speaker 3: got trained to the Cowboys, this dude was deaf, blind
Speaker 3: and just bad.
Speaker 2: Okay, he was.
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean every negative steoup the tip you
Speaker 3: said about the black quarterback, I'm not him moving back.
Speaker 4: I mean that one thing he says you to go
Speaker 4: be a wire receiver.
Speaker 2: That was the next thing.
Speaker 3: We knew a bill polling to come in here, so
Speaker 3: now he just changed it down that bringing down your neck.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is you know.
Speaker 2: This is amazing.
Speaker 6: At any point, can you at any point, can you
Speaker 6: see this coaching staff putting the package or something for
Speaker 6: this man to get in No, can make sure we're
Speaker 6: on the same face. He can run like I tast
Speaker 6: them hill type deal. You think you think he's not
Speaker 6: gonna throw the ball, bro, I don't know you if
Speaker 6: you were package. I'm telling quarterback jump quarterbacks. You're watching
Speaker 6: them shows. You're watching them show.
Speaker 2: It's no. You don't want that to get hit, right.
Speaker 5: That can't be running like like you usually run all
Speaker 5: that stuff because he has injury problems over the last
Speaker 5: couple of years. When I throw Trey Lance into a
Speaker 5: little running yeah, yeah, it ain't gotta be wildcare I'm
Speaker 5: a fooler more than one.
Speaker 2: We ain't got we don't have no goal line back anyways.
Speaker 5: Yeah, my quarterback love that controversy coming. I know that
Speaker 5: controversy gonna come as soon as he run into the
Speaker 5: hold no, hold on, we might have something for one
Speaker 5: play next week. He I get three in there? You
Speaker 5: remember having the boose? All right, don't don't even go there.
Speaker 5: Don't put that on me. That ain't what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: All right, Okay, you're gonna make the fifty three.
Speaker 3: Before we get into the fifty three, we saw an
Speaker 3: injury happen in the in the game to Josh Ball.
Speaker 4: They had him right tackle and did somebody the first.
Speaker 2: Pick from the Raiders.
Speaker 3: The Raiders ran through it fail down coach Coach mccarts,
Speaker 3: it's a multiple week injury for old Josh Ball.
Speaker 5: NA, let me it was it was. It was.
Speaker 2: It was a rough rep. It was a rough rep.
Speaker 2: But that ain't the only person that we see and
Speaker 2: get done like that, like people have bad reps.
Speaker 3: That's all right, yeah, yeah, well he's he's gonna be
Speaker 3: out multiple weeks. So the position I think we all
Speaker 3: agree right now that is Scott is worried. Mostly offensive line,
Speaker 3: definitely the offensive line. So Josh Ball was a guy
Speaker 3: that they were you know, they put him out there
Speaker 3: at right tackle so he could get reps.
Speaker 2: And Josh was excited to go out there because that's
Speaker 2: when he came into the league as a tackle.
Speaker 3: So he's now hurt uhas he's been hurt here was
Speaker 3: the Cowboys. So I am worried about when they make
Speaker 3: these final cuts, Who's how deep did they go on
Speaker 3: the offensive line? Should they try to take someone who
Speaker 3: they may cut? Get on the phone and call somebody
Speaker 3: and see if they can get some old line depth here.
Speaker 2: I think it's concerned.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's definitely concerning because we know what we
Speaker 6: have on the offensive line. I mean, at one point,
Speaker 6: all these guys, you know, you know, the Tyron Smith's, Zachman,
Speaker 6: they were all great, but they're getting up there in age,
Speaker 6: and as we've seen the backups to you know, our swing, well,
Speaker 6: let's go, he's.
Speaker 4: Dealing with injuries.
Speaker 2: Josh Ball, we just talked.
Speaker 6: About who's gonna be that swing guy because we all know,
Speaker 6: I mean, there's gonna be a musical chairs situation going
Speaker 6: on here at some point this year.
Speaker 2: It's a long season, seventeen games.
Speaker 4: What are we gonna do with death back there?
Speaker 2: Heck, you got any talks?
Speaker 5: I mean now, I'm the thing with Josh Ball is
Speaker 5: he got plenty of opportunity at guard when Zach Martin
Speaker 5: was out right, so we gave him all that opportunity
Speaker 5: at guard. Then in the prese last preseason game, we're
Speaker 5: moving back out to his natural position at right tackle,
Speaker 5: and then we see him get blessed. All right, so
Speaker 5: let's just call it what it is. Let's just call
Speaker 5: it what it is at some point. And the thing
Speaker 5: that you guys know is that everybody is combing these
Speaker 5: rosters right now, looking or whatever fools goal. Let's see
Speaker 5: if we can turn him to a guy that could
Speaker 5: work in our system. And I'm positive that the Cowboys
Speaker 5: are doing the same thing, like you said you have to.
Speaker 5: I'm so glad we got Tyler Smith. I'll tell you
Speaker 5: that because his ability to play inside and outside I
Speaker 5: think is going to save us a lot of headache
Speaker 5: this season depending on So you get to go decide
Speaker 5: like where you really need to get that position? That
Speaker 5: should we go get us a guy who could play guard,
Speaker 5: because we know that Tyler Smith can get pumped out
Speaker 5: if there's an issue. I think he gives you a
Speaker 5: lot of versatility. That is the positive. Zach Martin's back,
Speaker 5: Terrence still to be playing. Tyron Smith is hopefully healthy
Speaker 5: of this whole season, and we know if he's healthy,
Speaker 5: he's going to be a force to be reckon with.
Speaker 5: That is the ideal world. But yes, we need some depth.
Speaker 5: I am worried about be Odish in the middle. That's
Speaker 5: my worry. And I think a lot of what we've
Speaker 5: seen with Dak in those years that he hadn't been
Speaker 5: successful is been the pressure that he's getting up middle
Speaker 5: up the middle. When he came in the league, Dak
Speaker 5: was not getting touched. Y'all know that Travis Frederick offensive
Speaker 5: line was forty five doll was he was that even
Speaker 5: though he was throwing for a lot of yards, he
Speaker 5: had the running game in the offensive line to boot.
Speaker 5: Now over the years, he's starting to be he's starting
Speaker 5: to get touched a lot more. And I'm looking at
Speaker 5: be honest, if that ankle injury isn't right, man, that's
Speaker 5: what we made be in trouble.
Speaker 3: Made the Pro Bowl last year, so we started to
Speaker 3: see him really start to maximize his talent. But if
Speaker 3: they stay healthy, you got Tyler Smith. And that's about
Speaker 3: Tyron Smith. Tyrons Smith says, I mean she got Tyler
Speaker 3: Tyler Smith at left guard, Jack Martin right guard.
Speaker 2: That's some help right there.
Speaker 5: Right I'm talking about the injury to BEYONDI that he
Speaker 5: suffered in camp. We hadn't heard much about it. High
Speaker 5: ankle sprain or whatever it was that it was that
Speaker 5: they said. So, I mean, I'm worried about that position specifically.
Speaker 3: And I think Matt Farniac wild probably be the backup
Speaker 3: center right there. So look, there's questions and we'll see
Speaker 3: how they feel this thing together. But oh, by the way,
Speaker 3: I must remind people because we're getting our cowboy silo
Speaker 3: so much.
Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of teams across this league
Speaker 2: they got issues.
Speaker 3: Philadelphia is one of the stronger units out there when
Speaker 3: it comes to the offensive line play. But a lot
Speaker 3: of teams out here that you're gonna face that have
Speaker 3: got some issues. Here for the Cowboys, what's my man?
Speaker 3: That went up to the Buffalo.
Speaker 5: Government. He let us know why they got a new office. Yeah,
Speaker 5: the toll on them. Yeah, man, I ain't never seen it.
Speaker 5: We did this one time when I was I learned
Speaker 5: so much more Buffalo. That was some got Buffalo, get
Speaker 5: out the Buffalo.
Speaker 2: He got guys going out there. Yeah, he said, you
Speaker 2: better we go. We shown better. See.
Speaker 3: So with Trey Lance going to be on the fifty
Speaker 3: three man rosters, Deuce Spawn Cavan turping. We we we're
Speaker 3: going to put them on the fifty three man rosters,
Speaker 3: so that means you've got to go low. So I'm thinking,
Speaker 3: now you're probably gonna have three running backs.
Speaker 2: And you probably oh wow, look at that. He showed
Speaker 2: you well when we had to pass.
Speaker 3: After we had the podcast, and I asked Mike about
Speaker 3: the pump block and it was just what's worried? And
Speaker 3: he just said up, he had three of them before
Speaker 3: that were fine and he had the mental laps. He said,
Speaker 3: I think it'd be fine. You just you know, you
Speaker 3: can't let him inside. Then I thought, okay, Rico's fine.
Speaker 3: So so if you don't, you know Pollard Rico, dudes,
Speaker 3: those are your three tight end.
Speaker 2: Probably go with three there.
Speaker 3: So you got Ferguson Hind the shot shoemaker and uh
Speaker 3: schoolmaker draft pick. I mean McEwan's probably free. So so
Speaker 3: that allows you to go get it. I mean Davis. Everybody,
Speaker 3: a lot of teams have a Davis. There'll be a
Speaker 3: lot of teams to have a guy like that. You
Speaker 3: lie back, you may you have to let some folks go.
Speaker 5: Here, you know, right, that's gonna be a tough group
Speaker 5: and people recognized, especially a toossle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know he's gonna be you a special team.
Speaker 2: He's gonna stand on the table for you if.
Speaker 5: You didn't play special teams that maximize your ability on
Speaker 5: special teams as a linebacker.
Speaker 2: This, uh, this preseason and this training camp, shame on you.
Speaker 4: Your guy, Semmy, you're your guy. A couple of catches,
Speaker 4: uh night, I think it's a rat.
Speaker 2: He had a couple kids of the night.
Speaker 4: How long was he playing?
Speaker 2: Brings happened? Probably you can get a little practice squad. Actually,
Speaker 2: there you go, so cuts your coming up here hour fifteen.
Speaker 5: Man, it's gonna be some I believe it's gonna be
Speaker 5: some surprises on the defensive line. Is where where I'm looking.
Speaker 5: Chauncey Golsen is a guy that I was pulling for.
Speaker 5: I talked about him at the beginning of the camp
Speaker 5: saying that he had to have a good camp, so
Speaker 5: hopefully he put in enough work to get on the
Speaker 5: fifty three. I know a lot of people have been
Speaker 5: asking questions about him, specifically.
Speaker 2: He's got position flex. Is your guy gonna make the team?
Speaker 2: I think so never. I think I think he might
Speaker 2: think he might. He would straight up slide in there.
Speaker 4: If he did, if he did this, yeah, it's gonna
Speaker 4: be tight. But Kelln Joseph, you're gonna make this team
Speaker 4: is yes, Yes, he made an impact. People talking about
Speaker 4: him on the radar and like, I don't know why
Speaker 4: you guys going up.
Speaker 2: To I'm growing he's growing on me as a player.
Speaker 2: He could be one of six.
Speaker 5: But I'm sitting there and I'm said, goodness gracious, as
Speaker 5: soon as you sit that text about lining up outside,
Speaker 5: he lined up.
Speaker 2: How many times have you seen a Quarner line up.
Speaker 2: That's a tough thing to do in the slot.
Speaker 4: That's a teachable moment, teachable moment.
Speaker 2: He was locked in, put on the Garrett.
Speaker 4: Vision and make it hot.
Speaker 2: It was so clear like this, yeah, that's a tough thing.
Speaker 2: The only one of us up. That's that's a tough
Speaker 2: thing to do. That's why. But may the impact he
Speaker 2: growing on you know what?
Speaker 5: As a special team Okay, all right, I would make
Speaker 5: sure as a special teams player, I would love to
Speaker 5: see him. That's why I want to see him at
Speaker 5: and shout out to my dude the moon clocks, even
Speaker 5: in the hell of.
Speaker 2: The season, going ball out. I think he's gonna ball
Speaker 2: off for sure. But that's telling this was fun today.
Speaker 2: Are well time. I appreciate time.
Speaker 5: Tell you what, man balling not on a budget. That's
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Speaker 3: Yeah, very true, Harrison, Danny mccraig. I'm the strutch for
Speaker 3: Krispy Jazz. Well, Josh, everybody is a part of this.
Speaker 3: We will do it again.
Speaker 4: Thursday, right, yeahay's Tuesday, So Thursday, Thursday.
Speaker 2: It is Thursday.
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