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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to the Buck Sexton Show. On this episode,

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Speaker 2: we have our friend Chadwick Moore. Chad is an author.

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Speaker 2: He is the author of The Upcoming Tucker, a book

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Speaker 2: about Tucker Carlson, a biography of the man himself. He

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Speaker 2: also writes for The Spectator and other cool places. Mister Chadwick,

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Speaker 2: good to have you back on the program, sir.

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Speaker 1: Hey always good to be here, Buck.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I remember they used to tell us

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Speaker 2: some story that there was like once when I was

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Speaker 2: working in the government, that there was like one State

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Speaker 2: Department analyst. I think maybe this is totally urban legend

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Speaker 2: from the the community, but this is what they used

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Speaker 2: to say. There's like one State Department guy who and

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Speaker 2: there's usually a million of them on everything, who was

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Speaker 2: covering East Tmoor. And if you remember, there was a

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Speaker 2: time back in the East t Moore there was a

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Speaker 2: you know, a conflict and I think it was a

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Speaker 2: genocide And think is that horrible? And I'm like it

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Speaker 2: was the one guy he was right at the place

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Speaker 2: right at the time. I mean, Tucker is a very

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Speaker 2: very well known name across the board. But to be

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Speaker 2: writing the book on the guy who becomes the center

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Speaker 2: of the cable news universe for no longer being on

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Speaker 2: cable news must be quite a trip. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: kind of are the analyst on the issue in cable

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Speaker 2: news right now, which is Tucker.

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Speaker 1: What was that like, Yeah, it was a trip to

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Speaker 1: be I mean, well, it was well, just you know,

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Speaker 1: we started this over a year ago working on this book,

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Speaker 1: and I had submitted my manuscript in March, only two

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Speaker 1: months after my deadline, which is pretty good for a book,

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Speaker 1: and we were going through the edding process. We were

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Speaker 1: already done with it, and I had the day that

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Speaker 1: he so I was on Tucker's last show that we

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Speaker 1: didn't know was gonna be his last show, which was

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Speaker 1: April twenty first, and that day I actually had a

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Speaker 1: phone call with him scheduled for my final phone call.

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Speaker 1: I had literally five questions laid out, like did I

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Speaker 1: get this right? Can you explain this more? And he

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Speaker 1: had a flight that was delayed and he was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Can we reschedule this for Monday? And

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Speaker 1: I said sure, I'll text you Monday morning. And then

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Speaker 1: Monday morning, I saw I got the news like everyone

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Speaker 1: else did. I saw on Twitter that his show was

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Speaker 1: got pulled off the air. So, you know, of course,

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Speaker 1: What is going on? And it was of course I

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Speaker 1: texted Tucker. Didn't hear back for a few days because

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Speaker 1: everyone in the world was texting him. But you know,

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Speaker 1: after we kind of the dust settled a bit and

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Speaker 1: we thought about it for a minute. We were like,

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Speaker 1: this doesn't really change anything about the book. We just

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Speaker 1: have to go back and change a tense from present

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Speaker 1: And then also we need to add to the book.

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Speaker 1: So I got to interview him twice since the show

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Speaker 1: So I suppose with the book, nothing really much had

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Speaker 1: this did happen right as we were getting ready to

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Speaker 2: What can you tell us about I mean, there's so

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Speaker 2: much stuff that I want to ask you, but I

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Speaker 2: don't see Unlike I know when people used to ask

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Speaker 2: What do we know about why Fox made the decision

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Speaker 1: Well, there's nothing we can say with absolute certainty because

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Speaker 1: there's no documentary of this. But what is known, I

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Speaker 1: is that it was something to do with the dominion situation,

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Speaker 1: if you'd ask to me what my theory would have been,

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Speaker 1: of course denied this. Fox has denied this. That's what

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Speaker 1: was essentially Rupert Murdoch someone at Fox Fox Management wanting

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Speaker 1: to make an example out of Tucker Carlson, because everyone

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Speaker 1: the same thing about this, and they when asked, this

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Speaker 1: makes no sense. Why would Fox News take the ratings

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Speaker 1: They say, management is literally stupid. This is just what

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Speaker 1: people told me they didn't really understand the fact that

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Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson isn't really seen as just a talk show host.

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Speaker 1: He's really seen as a political movement, and he was

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Speaker 1: bringing so many people to cable news and to Fox

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Speaker 1: because he did not push those those theories about the

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Speaker 1: had something to do with the Diminian situation.

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Speaker 2: Does Fox recognize what people are starting to say that

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Speaker 2: Fox bud lighted itself with this move? Now that might

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Speaker 2: be a bit extreme, but what do you see? What

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Speaker 1: Well, just percentage wise, the numbers are worse than bud Light,

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Speaker 1: like the empty store, the empty shelves, and bud Light

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Speaker 1: being still given away for free. But Fox's numbers are

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Speaker 1: bud Lights down like twenty five percent in sales. Fox's

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Speaker 1: numbers are down like sixty two percent in the key

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Speaker 2: Is at a percentage just in the eight o'clock hour.

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Speaker 2: Is that across primetime.

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Speaker 1: That's across that's across all primetime, that's across the entire network. Actually,

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Speaker 1: and Tucker was number one in the key demographic in

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, if you know it's a

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Speaker 1: similar situation to bud Light. People say because it's an

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Speaker 1: example of Fox News betraying their customer, betraying their base,

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Speaker 1: their their core audience. I mean, people are really taking

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Speaker 1: thinking before this, I'm thinking of calling They called Arizona

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Speaker 1: quite early for Joe Biden. But it seems like a

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Speaker 1: least Tucker and kind of give the network a pass.

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Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people were misled about

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Speaker 1: it's a big, globalist, multinational corporation. They probably weren't happy

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Speaker 1: and you know, they must a lot of people must thought, well,

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Speaker 1: they let this guy say the things he does, they

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Speaker 1: him in such a mysterious and unceremonious way. I don't

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Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like it, certainly in the in

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Speaker 2: point to something similar in the past. It's obviously different

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Speaker 2: than the departure of both Bill Arelly and Megan Kelly. Right,

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Speaker 2: Fox wanted Megan to today, she decided to leave. Bill

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Speaker 2: I think, blamed Fox for that. I don't I don't remember.

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of being like, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: how could you fire him based on the facts of

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Speaker 2: the case as it was at the time, despite the

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Speaker 2: very different, and and it also, you know, as I

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Speaker 2: sit here and speak to you, there's all this reporting

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Speaker 2: over Fox sending a cease and desist letter for Tucker

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Speaker 2: to stop posting video of himself that is a monologue

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Speaker 2: but you know, it's on Twitter. To me, this is

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Speaker 2: starting to feel a little bit like do you remember

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Speaker 2: when some of the record recording companies record companies were

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Speaker 2: Napster and everybody was like, he really can't, Like, you're

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Speaker 2: not helping yourself with this one. And I mean, I

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Speaker 2: you know the season desist letter to me and that's

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Speaker 2: now public record, and that's not going to help with

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Speaker 1: It's really strange, And you're right, and I love that

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Speaker 1: Napster comparison in the same thing too. So what I

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Speaker 1: was told when Tucker announced he's doing a show on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: the reason why they were doing Twitter is that Twitter

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Speaker 1: is not included and is noncompete. So I've not seen

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Speaker 1: Tucker's contract, but that's what I was told by people

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Speaker 1: to Twitter. But also, you know, if you look at

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Speaker 1: he's rendering services. Well, he's not being paid by Elon Musk.

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Speaker 2: Let's come back in a second here with Chad's book,

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Speaker 2: Just one thing that I always remember about when Tucker

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Speaker 3: Just like, I mean, did you see that guy? And

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Speaker 1: It's so true. I mean that I actually described that

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Speaker 1: Well a legal battle. It looks like with Fox News

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Speaker 1: they're lawyering up. What I suspect is that they might

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Speaker 1: Wire or something like that. There was actually so funny enough,

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Speaker 1: They've told me that they're in no way committed to

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Speaker 2: And I have to say my sense of this. I mean,

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Speaker 2: now with regard to the next step.

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Speaker 1: I believe that's what he has said. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: the exact quote, but it's like these Fox contracts and

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Speaker 1: again I haven't seen his can be so onerous that

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Speaker 1: it's like they won't even allow him to do that.

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Speaker 1: And I believe there's some sort of I can't remember

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Speaker 1: what the clause is, but something like well, if you

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Speaker 1: go somewhere else, you can start paying us or something

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Speaker 1: like that. So, I mean, who knows how how restrictive

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Speaker 1: his contract is. This contract, though, was never as restrictive

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Speaker 1: as some Fox people. You can just tell by looking.

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Speaker 1: Because some Fox people they can't have their image or

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Speaker 1: voice appear anywhere, like no podcasts, they can't give speeches

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Speaker 1: things like that without you know, getting permissions from Fox.

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Speaker 1: That was never the case with Tucker Carlson. He could

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Speaker 1: kind of do ever he wanted and the pier where

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Speaker 1: he wanted.

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Speaker 2: Hmmm. Interesting. Well, I think that the future of the

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Speaker 2: digital platforms that are out there is very bright, and

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Speaker 2: I think that. I mean, I'll speak from the uh

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Speaker 2: from the personal perspective here. I have cut my cable

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Speaker 2: cord for the first time, actually, and the only thing

453
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Speaker 2: is funny. I mean, I really, I'll admit, this is

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Speaker 2: the only thing that I was really using because I

455
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Speaker 2: don't watch professional sports really like maybe tennis, you know,

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Speaker 2: during the US Open or something, but I really don't

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Speaker 2: watch sports. The only thing that I would watch with

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Speaker 2: my cable subscription was Fox News at eight o'clock. I

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Speaker 2: would watch. I usually have time for the whole show,

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Speaker 2: but I would watch his monologue and that was it.

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Speaker 2: So I'd watched the first fifteen minutes, give or take.

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Speaker 2: And since he let and I've cut my cord to

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Speaker 2: cable and I sit here and I say, I don't

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Speaker 2: miss it at all. And I don't think that business

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Speaker 2: model is sustainable long term anymore. So I don't know

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Speaker 2: what that means for cable news. CNN is obviously in

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Speaker 2: total disarray as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah for sure, now like Newsmax is beating CNN

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Speaker 1: in some time slots less I saw. It does seem

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Speaker 1: like a medium that has lasted longer than anyone would

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Speaker 1: expect it to have and it's diminishing returns. I've been

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Speaker 1: hearing from years people say that NewsCorp wanted to dump

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Speaker 1: Fox and wanted to sell it eventually. This is just

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Speaker 1: maybe just chatter, I don't know, because it is diminishing

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Speaker 1: returns on cable even though they were number one. And

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Speaker 1: of course you can't sell a product like that if

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Speaker 1: you have your most famous host is someone who says

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Speaker 1: controversial or provocative, as Tucker Carlson. So I've heard those

479
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Speaker 1: sort of rumblings for a long time. Who knows, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's amazing that it still exists in the form

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Speaker 1: that it does to begin with.

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Speaker 2: One thing I do find troubling though, is that with

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Speaker 2: the let's let's say the cable cord cutting does accelerate

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Speaker 2: the way that people have been saying, and that I

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Speaker 2: do believe it's happening even faster than what the projections

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Speaker 2: three four, five years ago anticipated. But YouTube is so powerful, Chad,

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Speaker 2: and YouTube is ideologically where Twitter was before Elon bought it.

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Speaker 2: And that's what I think people haven't necessarily if you know,

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Speaker 2: if you're not really active on YouTube, you don't watch

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Speaker 2: much there. That's becoming the single I mean, it is

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Speaker 2: the most single powerful digital video platform. But I think

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Speaker 2: it's becoming a replacement for a lot of people for

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Speaker 2: where they get their news specifically, and they are a

494
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Speaker 2: bunch of damn communists running that place. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what we're supposed to do about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a good point, I mean, and thankfully

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Speaker 1: there's some Well what's happening with Twitter is is what

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Speaker 1: the show is supposed to be on is Elon's launching.

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Speaker 1: This is what Tucker's producers told me, that he's launching

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Speaker 1: a video service that's meant to compete with YouTube. I

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Speaker 1: always told the name is supposed to be X Video

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Speaker 1: because everything's being branded under X, like SpaceX and X Corp.

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Speaker 1: Is now what owns Twitter? That sounds like like a

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Speaker 1: dirty site to me, But so maybe it'll change a name.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, or maybe that's a part of the troll.

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Speaker 1: But allegedly what Tucker's show is eventually going to be

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Speaker 1: on is this YouTube competitor that's run through Twitter. So

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Speaker 1: hopefully that could maybe help with the free speech issues

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Speaker 1: and ideological problems of YouTube and made me really put

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Speaker 1: a dent in them.

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Speaker 2: I like rumble, and I know people be shouting at

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Speaker 2: me right now, Like what about Rumble? Like that's fine.

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Speaker 2: You know YouTube is in arm of Google, which is

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Speaker 2: a subsidiary of Alphabet. I mean, it's like the most

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Speaker 2: powerful company in the world, right as much as like

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Speaker 2: as much, which I think Rumble is great and I

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Speaker 2: do and I love it. They're free speech over there,

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Speaker 2: and that's great. Like it's not Google Alphabet. You know

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Speaker 2: it's not. You know it's so anyway, I just think

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Speaker 2: we got it. We got to sort of stay focused

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Speaker 2: on what reality is here. I want to ask you

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Speaker 2: All right, Chad, the Biden White House flies the Pride

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Speaker 2: flag over the weekend and says, you know something like

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Speaker 2: America is a nation of pride, which I guess is

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Speaker 2: like a play on words or a double on taunder

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Speaker 2: or whatever. What do you think? What do you think

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Speaker 2: when you see this? Because for a lot of people,

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Speaker 2: I know, the sentiment starts to feel like is there

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Speaker 2: Does anyone understand there can be too much of a

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Speaker 2: celebration of anything?

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Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, Well it's a little grotesque, isn't it. And

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Speaker 1: it's fact that that new weirdo pride flag with the

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Speaker 1: chevrons on it, which I think it's actually like a

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Speaker 1: flag of like division. It's not really a unity flag.

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Speaker 1: It even looks like a divisive flag. It looks, you know,

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Speaker 1: violent and evil, and it's also one that is meant

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Speaker 1: to divide the community. I mean, it's all trans focused

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Speaker 1: and race focused and it's such the most bizarre thing ever.

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Speaker 1: And so even flying that flag is strange. But then,

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Speaker 1: of course Biden in his tweet about it, I mean,

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Speaker 1: obviously he's not the one tweeting, but then makes the

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Speaker 1: needs to make the case that we're standing up for

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Speaker 1: transgender children or whatever. If he couldn't be even more

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Speaker 1: creepy and disgusting when you see that flag, Now, that's

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Speaker 1: all you can think about. All you can think about

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Speaker 1: is what they're doing to kids, the stuff in schools,

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Speaker 1: the transing of kids. It's disgusting. It's not like even

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Speaker 1: like the little innocent rainbow like Okay, we're gonna, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, let an identity group have their day at

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Speaker 1: the White House. It seems a little more sinister than that.

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Speaker 1: And and also like at this point has absolutely nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with like what gay rights or recognition. It's

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Speaker 1: all about this bizarre queer critical theory ideology. That's what

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Speaker 1: that flag is. It has nothing to do with individual

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Speaker 1: people or rights or or anything of that nature.

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Speaker 2: Is there is there a growing sense in some quarters

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Speaker 2: within the gay community, Chad, that this activists it seems

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Speaker 2: like all in stance on trans hormones and surgery for

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Speaker 2: minors and drag queens story hour like, and there's always

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Speaker 2: this harnessing of gay rights to this issue, as though

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Speaker 2: these are the same issues that I'm sitting here, and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, look, I'm not in any of these communities

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Speaker 2: so to speak, but they're not the same issue.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's I mean, there's I mean this is

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Speaker 1: perhaps anecdotal. Well, I guess the only way you can

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Speaker 1: quantify this with data is if you look at the

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Speaker 1: gay how gay votes to increase for Donald Trump in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty to twenty sixteen, which it double to nearly

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Speaker 1: thirty percent in twenty twenty compared to about fifteen percent

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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen for Donald Trump. So I think you're

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Speaker 1: seeing not only this what's happening with the sort of

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Speaker 1: lgbtqiias two S plus plus whatever being just solely focused

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Speaker 1: on gender ideology and queer theory and this radical kids stuff,

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Speaker 1: but you're also seeing a coincide at the time where

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Speaker 1: gay people are growing up, they have their rights, so

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Speaker 1: they're con turned with kitchen table issues, and so you know,

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Speaker 1: they're watching this wacky stuff happening on the left and

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Speaker 1: then maybe they're thinking, eh, you know, like maybe I

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Speaker 1: want lower taxes, maybe I want safe streets. Fifteen percent

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Speaker 1: of same sex couples now have at least one child

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Speaker 1: at home, compared to thirty eight percent of straight couples.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think you're seeing a move. I think

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Speaker 1: you're seeing a big division of this. I think you're

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Speaker 1: seeing a lot of gay people who are are leaving

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Speaker 1: the left and the Democrat Party based on they're getting

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Speaker 1: older the Republican Party no longer really cares about this stuff,

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Speaker 1: and they're also watching this insanity that's happening on the

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Speaker 1: left and these really horrible things that are being done

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Speaker 1: and committed in the name of them and in their identity.

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Speaker 2: What is I hear this term used a lot, and

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Speaker 2: just just in Layman's terms, right, what is queer theory?

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Speaker 1: Like? What is that?

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Speaker 2: Even I hear it talked about.

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Speaker 1: What is it? What is it? What does it mean?

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Speaker 1: I mean if I tried to unpack it, I would

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Speaker 1: have an aneurysm. But you can think of it as

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Speaker 1: like like critical race theories, gender cousin. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: like it's like an academic philosophy about essentially, you know,

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Speaker 1: gender being a social construct and then you know sexuality, which.

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Speaker 2: Its tiers of tiers of oppression within it is that

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Speaker 2: it's like intersectionality, but gender not race, Yes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, And when you think of it, and one

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Speaker 1: of the main arguments is that gender is absolutely not real.

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Speaker 1: It's completely made up and people are born blank slates

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Speaker 1: and they're all conditioned to a certain way, which if

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Speaker 1: that's true, that like negates the whole argument of what

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Speaker 1: a homosexual is, which is somebody whose same sex attract

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Speaker 1: because queer theory literally says there's no such thing as

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Speaker 1: sex or gender. So it's it's not it's it's a

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Speaker 1: bizarre Marxist theory that has been that has co opted

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Speaker 1: the gay rights movement and the massive infrastructure the gay

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Speaker 1: rights movement has built over the last few decades, the

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Speaker 1: amount of money that those organizations have, it's been co

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Speaker 1: opted by this strange academic gender theory. That's that's absolute

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Speaker 1: just Marxism.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, Chad as a gay man, like, what

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Speaker 2: what is the like the gay the gay rights movement?

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you can always argue that there's you know,

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Speaker 2: there are you know, perceptions can change or whatever in society,

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Speaker 2: But in terms of like as a legal matter, what

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Speaker 2: are the other what are the other gay rights that

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Speaker 2: the gay rights movement is supposed to be fighting for? Right,

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Speaker 2: it almost feels like there's this there's this army of

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Speaker 2: activists that have to find a war to fight, and

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Speaker 2: so transgenderism becomes that war because the other war what

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Speaker 2: are they fighting?

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Speaker 1: Well, and even ironically, and you're correct about that, and

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Speaker 1: there are any rights that we don't have, but ironically,

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Speaker 1: these people who talk nothing about violence, and they start

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Speaker 1: and they talk about if you don't use someone's pronoun

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Speaker 1: and you're literally killing them or you're helping insmit suicide

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Speaker 1: or whatever. Well, you know, there are places in the

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Speaker 1: world where they could cause play as heroes and activists,

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Speaker 1: and they're not in the United States. They're in the

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Speaker 1: sixty something nations. It still criminalize homosexuality, especially those that

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Speaker 1: will put gays to death. You know, places like Iran,

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Speaker 1: in Afghanistan, and by the way, in Afghanistan during the

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Speaker 1: American occupation, you couldn't put gay people to death. As

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Speaker 1: soon as Joe Biden's disastrous pull out, what's one of

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Speaker 1: the first things that Taliban did. They reinstated the death

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Speaker 1: penalty for homosexuality. So there are places in the world

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Speaker 1: where these people could go and maybe try to have

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Speaker 1: to focus on dismantling systems here and pushing everyone and

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Speaker 1: mutilating experimenting on children for some sick reason.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Chadwick, we'll continue to talk to you about

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Speaker 2: this and more. When does Tucker the book come out?

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Speaker 1: It is available for pre order now anywhere you get

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Speaker 1: your books, so you go to tuckerthbook dot com and

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Speaker 1: then it comes out July eighteenth, So if you order

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Speaker 1: it now, you'll get that bookshipped to you on July eighteenth.

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Speaker 2: I mean, since you're doing a podcast with me, I

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Speaker 2: want to sign a copy. Obviously i'll buy it. Obviously

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Speaker 2: i'll buy it because I like to support the author.

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Speaker 2: But you got to sign it for me, all right, deal?

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Speaker 1: Of course thatunds.

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Speaker 2: Good Bye man, thank you, and good work. We'll talk soon.

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Speaker 1: Thanks man,