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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I'm

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Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal, joined today by the Grand Puba of the

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Speaker 1: Foul Territory Network. Scott Braun will be co hosting alana

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Speaker 1: Is as they say on assignment. So we've got Scott today,

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Speaker 1: and Scott, we've got a lot to get through on

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Speaker 1: this Thursday.

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Speaker 2: We do. You know, I love doing this hopping on

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Speaker 2: for a little cameo pinch hip performance, Ken, So let's

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Speaker 2: jump right into the lead. And I will say to

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Speaker 2: those who celebrate happy arbitration figure exchange Day. I don't

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Speaker 2: know why you would celebrate unless you're a player, But

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Speaker 2: what can you tell us about this? And I will

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Speaker 2: add fans should care if they somehow hear an extension

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Speaker 2: pop up for a player of their choice. But really,

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Speaker 2: for the most part, we're just figuring out salaries for

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Speaker 2: next year, right.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right for arbitration eligible players. And the interesting things,

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Speaker 1: as you mentioned, Scott, one would be an extension. Two

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Speaker 1: would be an unusual split one way or the other,

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Speaker 1: a team offering a lot more than the player is asking,

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Speaker 1: a player asking for a lot more than the team

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Speaker 1: that it should have been settled. And then finally today

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Speaker 1: we have the case of Terek Scougle and he's a

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Speaker 1: very interesting case, and we'll show you the most prominent

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Speaker 1: players that are eligible today and the ones that are

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Speaker 1: projected to receive the highest salaries. Trek Scougble is while

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Speaker 1: projected by Mlbtrade Rumors dot Com to get seventeen point

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Speaker 1: eight million, that probably is low. He's a two times

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Speaker 1: sy Young winner, back to back sy Young winner, and

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Speaker 1: he is expected to break the record into arbitration for

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Speaker 1: a pitcher, which is David Price's nineteen point seventy five million.

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Speaker 1: Because of those back to back cy Young's, Schooble is

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Speaker 1: in a particularly great place as far as his arbitration

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Speaker 1: kind of looking at the race he got last year,

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Speaker 1: which was seven and a half million to ten point

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Speaker 1: do really well here and a question will be whether

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Speaker 1: they settle or whether they reach a number. Generally, these

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Speaker 1: cases as you mentioned Scott all Settle, but I'm sure

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Speaker 1: there'll be some that don't today as well.

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Speaker 2: So when I look at that list, of course, keep

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Speaker 2: in mind that a player who is one year from

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Speaker 2: free agency is going to be in a different mode,

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Speaker 2: in a different tier, right, And that actually applies to

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Speaker 2: both the two that I'm about to bring up, Trek

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Speaker 2: Scooble and Randy Rosorina. It is kind of weird to

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Speaker 2: see Randy ahead of school Schooble is a back to

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Speaker 2: back sy young winner. Randy's good player. He had one

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Speaker 2: of the most epic October's you know, we've seen in

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Speaker 2: the twenty first century, but that was a while ago

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Speaker 2: at this point, nice player, but it's just crazy to

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Speaker 2: think that him and Schooble, according to this MLB and

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Speaker 2: Players Association agreed upon system, are worth around the same

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Speaker 1: I do expect Schooble to do better, but starting pictures

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Speaker 1: in arbitration, for whatever reason, do not generally fare as well,

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Speaker 1: at least to start with. And then what happens is

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Speaker 1: you're building your future salaries on the previous salaries. So

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Speaker 1: because that happens because the first fear arbitrations, starting pitchers

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Speaker 1: generally start at four or five million. They do not

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Speaker 1: It's kind of a weird deal, but yeah, that's the

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Speaker 2: Okay, Ken, Let's move to your latest column. It came

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Speaker 2: out this morning and it has to do with the

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Speaker 2: Cubs latest acquisition of Eduard Cabrera. But what's next? And

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Speaker 2: I think the way to summarize it from the fan

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Speaker 2: perspective is that you said, much more eloquent terms and

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Speaker 2: more detailed terms, what every Cubs fan is feeling for

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Speaker 2: a while now, probably for five years now. Can we

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Speaker 2: spend some damn money to show that we're a big

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Speaker 2: market exactly?

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Speaker 1: And they had one major free agent signing in twenty

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: The point of what I wrote is that after getting

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Speaker 1: you now? This is two years in a row. The

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Speaker 1: Cubs have traded a very highly regarded hitting prospect, Cam

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Speaker 1: And then you get Edward Cabrera. That's fine, but you're

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Speaker 1: what I'm suggesting is that they signed one of the

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Speaker 1: of course about Bellinger, Bishett, Bregman, and Tucker. Obviously some

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be enough for a Chicago team, a team that

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Speaker 1: a guy that is extremely talented and if he's on lookout,

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Speaker 1: But the problem is will he stay healthy. You see

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you figure the innings total for him is going

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Speaker 2: my mind, Ken, this is someone that the Cubs look

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Speaker 2: want him to make as many starts as possible during

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Speaker 2: the regular season, but I get it. You handled what

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Speaker 2: bring up how in your article you said the second

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Speaker 2: rosy for them. From an offensive standpoint, Tucker was much

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Speaker 2: what you're saying with offense. Here's my question. I thought

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Speaker 2: to keep reminding myself. Rickley Field right now is a

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Speaker 2: why am I, as a free agent choosing Chicago if

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Speaker 2: that is going to potentially suppress my offensive production. If

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at this as a one or a two

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Speaker 1: Right And that's the point I'm making. If you're in

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Speaker 1: you probably can't because a player of this caliber of

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Speaker 1: Free that's a great idea. Bellinger didn't have a choice,

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Speaker 2: So anyway, we'll keep an eye on that, Ken, I

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Speaker 2: being traded more so than not being traded. So what's next.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting, Scott, these two trades that we've seen

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Speaker 1: Boz and now Cabrera big returns. The Bos return was massive.

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Speaker 1: So for three years of Edward Cabrera, the Cubs were

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Speaker 2: This is my nightmare right now, Ken, because I get

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Speaker 2: I say that in Jess, but he does love talking football.

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Speaker 1: This guy is twenty four years old. He just went

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Speaker 2: Let's get to mine. So I love a little juice.

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Speaker 1: No question?

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Speaker 1: It's been a long time since we called out the A's,

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Speaker 2: And Ken may I add that I think this is

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Speaker 2: I've never spoken to someone there that has said we

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Speaker 2: Yes, okay, I'll get to mind quick Perimnajian, who is

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Speaker 2: I know, you got to be a professional and keep

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Speaker 2: Just talk to me a little bit more like I'll

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Speaker 1: Time now for Brill and Ken, the part of the

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Speaker 1: show where I answer your questions. Before we get to

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Speaker 1: the questions, I want to correct one thing where I

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Speaker 1: think I misspoke earlier. Mackenzie Gore two years of control remaining,

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Speaker 1: not three. So two years of control for Gore, one

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Speaker 1: year for Peralta. Remember Shane Bows and Edward Cabrera, they

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Speaker 1: each had three years of control, so of course the

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Speaker 1: amount of control always affects the price that you get

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Speaker 1: back into trade for a pitcher. All right, with that,

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Speaker 1: let's get to the questions. First one comes from Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Newman four four seven four, who asks does the return

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Speaker 1: for Cabrera incentivize the Twins to revisit Ryan Lopez stance

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Speaker 1: Joe Ryan and Pablo Lopez given the Twins are barely

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Speaker 1: active despite wanting to win. Well, this is a good

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Speaker 1: question because you're right, as the market shifts, Jonathan, teams

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Speaker 1: might reconsider their positions. But the Twins have been very

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Speaker 1: adamant about wanting to be a better team this year

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Speaker 1: and wanting to keep Joe Ryan and Pablo Lopez and

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Speaker 1: Byron Buxton for that matter, at least for the start

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Speaker 1: of the season and see if they can do any

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Speaker 1: damage in the Ales Central. Now you might say, well,

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Speaker 1: that's all well and good, but what have they done

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Speaker 1: to make themselves better? Good question. We don't really have

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Speaker 1: an answer for that yet other than Josh Bell and

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Speaker 1: maybe a reliever or two. But the Twins to this point,

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Speaker 1: after their injection of money from new ownership partners, they

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Speaker 1: have said that they do not want to trade those

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Speaker 1: guys that they want to at least start the season

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Speaker 1: with them. All right. Next question, This one comes from

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Speaker 1: Frank Marsella, who asked, given the rise in player salaries,

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Speaker 1: is there any consideration to increasing the luxury tax thresholds? Frank,

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Speaker 1: the question here is whether the next CBA, which of

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Speaker 1: course will start in effect twenty twenty seven season, will

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Speaker 1: include a luxury tax at all, or will there be

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Speaker 1: a hard salary cap. The owners, we anticipate, are going

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Speaker 1: to push for a hard cap, more likely, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: they won't get it, and ultimately we'll have something of

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Speaker 1: the same system in place. Now with regard to the thresholds,

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Speaker 1: if the system does remain intact, Yes, the thresholds I

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Speaker 1: am quite certain, will go up, and they always go up.

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Speaker 1: They've gone up historically, and certainly with the amount of

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Speaker 1: money being spent and certain teams spending a ton of

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Speaker 1: money Dodgers, Mets, Yankees, etc. Yeah, you would need higher

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Speaker 1: thresholds if this system is to remain in place.

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Speaker 2: All right? What we got now?

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Speaker 1: Can Johnson ninety four was the Lorenzen signing mentioned more

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Speaker 1: notable than usual signing for the Rockies. Glad you asked

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Speaker 1: Can Johnson because we did not mention it. And Michael

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Speaker 1: Lorenzen agreed last night to a one year, eight million

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Speaker 1: dollar deal with the Colorado Rockies with a nine million

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Speaker 1: dollar club option for twenty twenty seven. And with the Rockies,

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Speaker 1: they're not going long term on any pictures. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that any pitcher wants to sign with them long term,

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Speaker 1: but they are in a position where they would like

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Speaker 1: to get a couple of guys short term. And for

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Speaker 1: Michael Lorenzen, who is an a mentally talented guy, this

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Speaker 1: will be a challenge, no question, But you know what,

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Speaker 1: I like it. And the Rockies, if he performs well,

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Speaker 1: can always trade him at the deadline. But for the

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Speaker 1: Rockies this was a step forward. And what's intriguing to me,

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Speaker 1: and the question I want to ask today is are

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Speaker 1: they going to let him hit too? Because Michael Lorenzen

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Speaker 1: can hit, as you remember, especially from his days in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: All right, one more question before we run, Let's go

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Speaker 1: Video Game Nation twenty six ken. With the Rockies signing

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Speaker 1: Michael Lorenzen, the Red Sox are the only team not

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Speaker 1: to sign an MLB free agent. Do you think Craig

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Speaker 1: wrestler is on the hot seat if twenty twenty six

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Speaker 1: does not go as expected for Boston, he could be yes,

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Speaker 1: but I would not read too much into the free

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Speaker 1: agent shutout so far for the Red Sox. It's not

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Speaker 1: like they've been inactive. If traded for Sonny Gray, traded

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Speaker 1: for Wilson Contreras, traded for Johann Oviedo. I fully expect

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Speaker 1: that they're going to sign one of the remaining hitters,

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Speaker 1: Alex Bregman, perhaps, Boba Schitt, perhaps, and at that point

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Speaker 1: we can end this conversation about why they haven't signed

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Speaker 1: a single major league free agent. Joel Sherman wrote a

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Speaker 1: column in The New York Post today. Rob Bradford wrote

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Speaker 1: something for weei dot Com just about how it's really

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Speaker 1: at this point too early to scream about the inactivity

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Speaker 1: of these teams that we're talking about. They are going

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Speaker 1: to do things now. Ultimately, if they don't do enough, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's fair game for criticism. But we're not at a

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Speaker 1: point yet where we can say, oh, these teams are

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Speaker 1: just not doing anything. Give it to all the end

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Speaker 1: of the offseason, which is really Opening Day, and let's

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Speaker 1: see where these teams are.

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Speaker 2: Then all right.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank everyone for watching and for listening.

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Speaker 1: Foul Territory is next. You know who to watch there.

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Speaker 1: Todd Frasier, Eric krat and Scott Brun Welcoming Royals manager

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Speaker 1: Lance Rodzalfki. Stay tuned for that and we'll see you

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Speaker 1: on Monday