1 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to another NFL Daily where we missed the hell 2 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: out of Cynthia Freeland. 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 2: Last week. 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 3: We missed you. 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: We needed her me, we got her in the studio. Yes, 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: I'm back in the Chris Wesley podcast studio with my 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: friend Cynthia Freeland. 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: We missed you. 9 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, was in London last week. Neil Reynolds stepped in 10 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: and picked games for you. He didn't win a single game, 11 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: he went oh to three. But because we're professional, we 12 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: did get your picks. The listeners are going to just 13 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: have to trust us on this one that you went 14 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: to and one great on your pick. 15 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: Sel. 16 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 4: I mean, listen, we can show them the email proof. 17 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 4: It's not like it's not there. 18 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: Yes, it is absolutely true. You had Washington wrong last week. 19 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: But you got that half a freaking point. Yes, but 20 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: you got the Texans covering easily and the Bears covering easily. 21 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: When I saw your Bears pick, I was like, why 22 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: didn't I take the Bears? I felt so strong about 23 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: that game there in London, and then it happened I 24 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: went too and one as well. I got the Lions 25 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: and the Steelers both covering comfortably and the Giants not 26 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: even coming very close. So two and one for me 27 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: gets me to eight and ten on the season. You're 28 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 1: nine and nine. My extra picks did poorly last week, 29 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: so I'm down to eleven and six and my extra 30 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 1: picks we do have a couple. Eleven and six is great, 31 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,279 Speaker 1: still very good, but I went zero and three last week. Okay, 32 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: let's start well, I'll let you start every week. By 33 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: the way, if you're new to the show, both Cynthia 34 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: and I, two of the foremost prognosticators in the business, 35 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: picked three games against the spread. 36 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 4: Okay, for my first pick this week, I would like 37 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 4: to go with Listen, I'm i woof this one's gonna 38 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 4: be spicy, but I'm going with the Jets plus one 39 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 4: and a half. Okay, I think the Jets went out right, 40 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 4: So if you're gonna also give me another point and 41 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 4: a half, I will take it. 42 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: I have the Jets winning this game as well. 43 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: On our show debut, which, by the way, people could 44 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: they can dvyards on early Friday mornings on Sunday. 45 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: Morning early if you're on late night specific Saturday, Yeah, 46 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: it's very early. What do you like? 47 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: Does your model put a DeVante trade into the mix 48 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: and how much does that change anything. Does it put 49 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson into the mix? Does that change anything there? 50 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 4: You know, the Russell Wilson thing just added more passes 51 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 4: with actually added more volatility because the Jets defense is 52 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 4: very good. And then if you look on the other side, 53 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 4: Davante Adams has been the reliable option for Aaron Rodgers 54 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 4: on quick passes basically for ever since they were together, right, So, 55 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 4: I don't know, it kind of bolstered the Jets odds 56 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 4: no matter what. And I think the line moved half 57 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 4: a point with Davante and I'm like, fine, I. 58 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: Don't care, but you moved at another a point or something. 59 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I went over and above, Yes, whatever the movement was. 60 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: Yes, you have them. When I like that, I agree 61 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: with you. But that's not going to be one of 62 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: my three picks I'm going to make. I'm going to 63 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: continue to make the mistake of picking the Patriots it 64 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: to cover the spread. 65 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 3: I have it too. 66 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: Five and a half is okay? 67 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, you got to have a code as someone 68 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: that's picking games, and one of my codes, one of 69 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: my ways I would I do this would be some 70 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: teams just aren't worthy of being heavy favorites and the 71 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,119 Speaker 1: Jaguars are one of those teams like you can put 72 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: any NFL team out there against the Jaguars. I do 73 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: not think they should be a five and a half 74 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: point favorite in any scenario whatsoever, and this is that scenario. 75 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: It's a neutral field game, you could say JAG's home game, 76 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: but it's not gonna really matter. I'm sure the Patriots 77 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: fans will actually travel pretty well and it'll be even, 78 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: but it'll be mostly just people enjoying the game. 79 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: It'd be fun atmosphere. They're at Wimbley. 80 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: So giving the Jaguars five and a half points after 81 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: a week where I think Olie Connelly on our recap 82 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: show said it well, watching the sidelines, He's never seen 83 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: a more disconnected team emotionally in his life, and now 84 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: they got to go spend a whole week together in London. 85 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: Everyone's miserable. People think the head coach is gonna get 86 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: fired just sight unseen. I kind of almost like the 87 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: Patriots straight up. I'm not ready to go there because 88 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: the last thing I did before I came in to 89 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: the studio today was watch Patriots Texans and it was 90 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: a reminder this is a bottom five defense. Trevor Lawrence 91 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: has actually played pretty well the last couple of weeks. 92 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: They're just more talented than the Patriots when their offense 93 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,559 Speaker 1: is on the field against a pretty poor Patriots defense. 94 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: There they're not beginning coach very well, so that maybe 95 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: the Jaguars win this game. But five and a half points. 96 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: With Drake may making some plays last week that was 97 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: he is very volatile, so it could go really well 98 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: and he probably could have some negative plays. But this 99 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: this Jag secondary hasn't made any plays all year. 100 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 4: I mean, Andre Cisco had like the one good play 101 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 4: and then there was allegations that he said their team quit. 102 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 3: So yes, I don't know what's true or not. 103 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 4: I just know that it looks like a mess and 104 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 4: that weird hockey line and subbing in thing that the 105 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 4: Jags are doing up. 106 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 3: Front watch their defensive front. 107 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 4: Yes, they like do hockey line substitutions like you know, 108 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,119 Speaker 4: like up first first line, second light like it's it's wild. 109 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 4: I've never seen you ually see one or two players 110 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,919 Speaker 4: kind of on certain downs coming out and not like 111 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 4: they're they're like summing out five layers. 112 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: Well, that's the one part of the game that does 113 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: worry me a little. Bit Trayvon Walker has had some 114 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: good games. Josh heinz Allen is still there. Ark armsit's there. 115 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: So that matchup against the Patriots offensive line. But that's 116 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why. Just as a little bonus 117 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: on our show game debut for my write this down 118 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: this week, I was like, Drake May over rushing yard 119 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: in total, so that was like twenty nine and a half. 120 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: That's not one of my picks here. I guess it's 121 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: an extra pick. I'm throwing that in the xtra pick 122 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: in the box because he's gonna when I think they're 123 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: telling Drake May. Essentially, if you don't see anything and 124 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: the rush comes quickly, like run dude, and he did it. Well, 125 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: run dude. He is athletic enough to do it. So 126 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: is that going to be one of your three pills? 127 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 2: Okay? Huh Okay? 128 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 4: My next one is Washington by seven and a half 129 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 4: points against Carolina. 130 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 2: Okay, that that makes a lot of sense to me. 131 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 2: Explain why? 132 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 3: Well what I mean? 133 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 4: Number one, Listen, there's so many good things to like 134 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 4: about Jayden Daniels, but the one thing I want to 135 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 4: talk about on the other side of the game is 136 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 4: the fact that no Jonathan Allen now, and now that's 137 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 4: going to be difficult to overcome. But I actually have 138 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 4: seen their defense defending passes a little bit better in 139 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 4: recent weeks. I'm not gonna call them a good pass defense. 140 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say that they're not going to give 141 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 4: up a deep play. I'm not gonna say that if 142 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 4: Deontay Johnson plays, he's not gonna get the hands, none 143 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 4: of that. 144 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: What I am going to say. 145 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 4: Is that their ability to contain these chunk plays on 146 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 4: every single down is limited more than Jayden Daniel's ability 147 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 4: to create such things on the other side. So I 148 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 4: think seven and a half, I have them an eleven 149 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 4: point win. And you know, my pretty conservative. So if 150 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 4: my model seeing eleven points seven and a half is 151 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 4: like you know, the big gapes, yeah, I'm way more 152 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 4: conservative than most models. 153 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: I like that. 154 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: I agree with that one too, if I had to 155 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: pick that one. Andy Dalton's playing just well enough that 156 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: you could see him like scoring some late touchdowns and 157 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: make you sweat it. But that defense is just just terrible. 158 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: Jadavin Clowney is still out of practice. Deontay Johnson out 159 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: of practice the first couple of days of the week, 160 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: of his teammates said that he will play. 161 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 2: Xavier Laget said, well. 162 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 4: If Xavier Laget says it, it must be true. 163 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: Xavier Legett also says he has if he scores two 164 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: touchdowns in this game, he has like a second part 165 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: of his horse galloping celebration. 166 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 2: I don't know if you've been. 167 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 4: Tracking, but there's a second part. 168 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: He has, the second part that he's ready to unveil, 169 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: but he has to score two touchdowns. 170 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 3: I'm so glad. 171 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, what you are saying is unlikely. 172 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: Washington, that's your second pick minus seven and. 173 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: And a half. 174 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: Yep, don't forget that hook. 175 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: I'm so I'm like on the fence of what my 176 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: next couple of picks are going to be. Let's go 177 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: with the one I feel better about. Okay, Seattle plus 178 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: three yep, this is more of a hunch. Byron Murphy 179 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: returns this week. I think he's really important for that defense. Yes, 180 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: they've been getting pushed around in the middle. If he's there, 181 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: he can make everyone around him better. I like the 182 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: extra rest factor. The Seahawks play on Thursday night. Falcons 183 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: off of a normal week like that. The Falcons are 184 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: also the the they can't keep getting away with this team, 185 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like every week it's just like, okay, Falcons, 186 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: like they've won three in a row, the Seahawks have 187 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: lost three in a row. And when sometimes that happens 188 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: and I see two teams that I believe are pretty 189 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: close overall and talent and overall ability, I think, like this, 190 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: those streaks are gonna end. That's how it works out. Now, 191 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: that's not like a statistical way to really look at it, 192 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: but I do think Mike McDonald, their defensive coach, with 193 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: a few extra days to work on it, looks at 194 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: this Falcons offense, which is limited in the passing game, 195 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins every week he can't move. It's the play 196 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: actions not working. You're probably getting Tarrek wollenback for this 197 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: game too, for Seattle. So I like, okay, freaky, he 198 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: switched it. And I know the Falcons like rushing attack 199 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: has been getting a little better, so that worries me somewhat, 200 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: but I think Seattle can throw on them. 201 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to Seattle plus three, okay. 202 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 3: I mean I like all that. 203 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 4: One thing I really like in this game is a 204 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 4: dk Metcalf touchdown, who in large part because the go 205 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 4: route has been where he's been so great, and the 206 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 4: opportunity here I did see. By the way, it is 207 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 4: worth noting that Justin Simmons was on the injury report 208 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 4: for the Falcons. Should that be something that happens, then 209 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 4: we're gonna want to say, like, maybe look at the 210 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 4: numbers for Tyler Lockett or Jack Okay, Jigbud, make them 211 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 4: a little higher. But ultimately I think the go route 212 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 4: DK metcalf back on track with those games that are 213 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 4: like three, you know, one hundred plus. He had three 214 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 4: of those and touch out whatever, So I like a touchdown. 215 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: I also like that he has been the main character 216 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: this week in Seattle, just in the media of everyone 217 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: talking about him coming off of a bad game and 218 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: why it didn't work out, and it's like he's not 219 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: being the squeaky wheel necessarily, but it's that same sort 220 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: of idea of they want to just. 221 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 2: Get him back on track after being the main character. 222 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: All right, give me your last pick, Cynthia Freelan, I 223 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: know this on fire got back to five hundred. 224 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 2: Here, let's go. 225 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 4: This one is going to be someone I know you 226 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 4: disagree with, so cause I think we need some dissension. Okay, 227 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 4: read too much and now I'm going to pick Houston 228 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 4: and I'm going to take a field goal. Thank you 229 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 4: very much at lambeau Field. I think that this is 230 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 4: an opportunity. 231 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 3: Number one. 232 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 4: A lot of Green Bay's wide receiving corps has ended 233 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 4: up on the injury report that is number one, including 234 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 4: Jayden Reid number two. Jordan Love splits when under pressure 235 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 4: versus not when under pressure. Our massive biggest erosion in 236 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 4: passer reading this year, like the most touchdowns passes, but 237 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 4: also like most interceptions. It is it is high risk 238 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 4: it biscuit whatever that remember. 239 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: That was very no risk it no biscuit. Bruce Arians 240 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: believe it was. 241 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: No. 242 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: It was not the name of his book. The name 243 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: of his book was The Quarterback Whisper. And I read it, 244 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: but a lot of it, a lot of no risk 245 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 1: and no biscuit. 246 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 4: Do you want to know a book I've read, Total 247 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 4: Access by Rich Eyes. 248 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 2: That's the only one that's or just you just wanted 249 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 2: to brag. 250 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 4: No. I somebody like told me that in order to 251 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 4: work with Rich I needed They were messing with me 252 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 4: and they were like, in order to work with Rich 253 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 4: you need to read his book. 254 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: You know, that's really funny. I've read that book as well, 255 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 1: and I was not even told that. I you know, 256 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm a completist. That was even before I 257 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: worked at NFL Network. I believe it's called a Journey 258 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: into the NFL's. 259 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 2: Something like that. 260 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, and he had hair. Anyways, it was crazy. But 261 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 4: I'm back to Houston. Yeah, I think this number one 262 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 4: defense in terms of bringing the heat. They're the best 263 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 4: rush defense in the league, and they back it up 264 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 4: with a passer rating allowed being the lowest when they 265 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 4: get pressure on quarterbacks. So in my estimation here, especially 266 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 4: with Joe Mixon back in the fold, when they have 267 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 4: that extra fold in the run game, even without Nico Collins, 268 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 4: I would like it better if Nico were playing, but 269 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 4: we don't have that option. This is an opportunity for 270 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 4: Houston to kind of take that step forward. 271 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: You're the third smart person I've heard make this pick 272 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: in the last hour or two. 273 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 4: Well, I mean I feel like it you might have been. 274 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 4: It might have been we were in the meeting together. 275 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, not even counting that meeting. 276 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: I'm like, I was listening to a podcast to you, 277 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: like Green Bay minus three was going to be one 278 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: of my picks. 279 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 2: We were going to go head to head, but go ahead. 280 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: I already was leaning towards jumping off of it, partly 281 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: because I just enjoy watching CJ. 282 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: Stroud so much. 283 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: I think he's the best quarterback in the league in 284 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: the pocket right now, and it's so hard to pick 285 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: against him that, even though I do believe Green Bay 286 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: will win and cover the three, to make it one 287 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: of my top three picks, feels a little rich. 288 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 2: Now. 289 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,359 Speaker 1: They are missing a lot of defensive starters. Houston potentially, 290 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: Jimmy Ward not expected to play, Kamari Lassiter I think 291 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: is not expected to play. A couple of the linebackers 292 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: are maybe's. 293 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. 294 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: This may be factor makes it. It is tricky, but it 295 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: is tricky. We don't know for sure. So you're gonna 296 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: move me off of that pick. I am going to 297 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: put it in my extra picks. Yeah, put in the box. 298 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: It's there, great, don't put it in the box. The 299 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 1: box is good. 300 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 2: Okay. 301 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: So, going back to what I was saying about, the 302 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: Jaguars don't deserve to be five and a half point 303 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: favorites over anyone. I don't think the Rams deserve to 304 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: be touchdown over anyone. I know the Raiders are bad, 305 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,479 Speaker 1: but the Raiders, like every other week, have this performance 306 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, like we really we really stunk 307 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: last week. And Antonio Pierce laid into is that we're 308 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: gonna play hard and we're gonna be better on defense 309 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: than you think. And I don't necessarily think they're gonna 310 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: win this game. I would certainly pick the Rams, who 311 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: are maybe getting Cooper Cup back, it's looking positive for 312 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: that they're coming off a bye, but they're a one 313 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: win team getting a touchdown at home, and there's no 314 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: home field advantage in particular when you're playing the Raiders 315 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. Not that that's like informing my decision 316 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: too much, it's well. 317 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: Not for the Raiders, for the Raiders's kind of like that's. 318 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: What I that's what I mean like, But I just 319 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: I don't think their defense is going to be this 320 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 1: bad all season long. Sean McVay and the Rams have 321 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: just dealing with so many different issues. They've They've changed 322 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: their secondary up, their linebackers are still very vulnerable. The 323 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: Raiders are one of the worst teams in the league, 324 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: but I just feel like a one win Rams team 325 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: does not deserve to be favored by a touchdown over anyone. 326 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,439 Speaker 4: I mean I have them at a touchdowns, So I'm 327 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 4: kind of like. 328 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: Okay, are on the fence or whatever? All right? That 329 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 2: that is my third pick. I'm gonna take the Raider. 330 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be bold because i feel like when I've 331 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: not been bold in this segment, what's happened is I've 332 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: taken all my bold picks and I've put them over 333 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: in the in the box, which are my extra picks, 334 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: and those extra picks have been better the box. 335 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 3: So be spicy on the show, be boring in the box. 336 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 2: Okay. 337 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: So to review our picks, your picks are Washington minus 338 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: seven and a half. 339 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 2: Yep. You have the Jets winning over the Steelers. Yep. 340 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 3: But I get one and a half points in case. 341 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been it's been moving around there. You get 342 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: one and a half. Houston is a three point underdog 343 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: in Green Bay. So those are Cynthia's picks. I'm taking 344 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: the Pats getting five and a half in London, taking 345 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: the Seahawks getting three in Atlanta, and taking the Vegas 346 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: Raiders getting a touchdown in Los Angeles. So I'm taking 347 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: three underdogs this week, and then just because I like 348 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: to have a little fun, I like it, I give 349 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: people some extra picks. We have it Ravens minus four. 350 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: This is just like I feel like taking the Ravens 351 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: every week at this point, unless they just like proved 352 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: me wrong. This Buccaneers defense has a lot of issues. 353 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: I know you disagree with this one though you had 354 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: the Ravens only by one in. 355 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 4: This It depends on what happens with like if Mike 356 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 4: Evans isn't playing, things shift. 357 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 2: So I don't know this good. 358 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 4: This one I don't feel great about, like as I 359 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 4: don't know when you get on the injury report like 360 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 4: after Wednesday, any you went on the Andrew report on Thursday. 361 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 3: Like that doesn't feel good. 362 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 2: That's it so good. It's a tricky one. 363 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: This offense is just so good that I have a 364 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: hard time seeing Tampa Bay keeping up. 365 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 2: I have the Packers minus three. 366 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: I gave all the reasons already there, and then I'm 367 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: going Brown's plus five and a half. I had them 368 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: written down last week, and then I crossed them out 369 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: because I just I even said it on the podcast, 370 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: so it didn't count. I was like, I just can't 371 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: in good conscience pick a team yep, run by Deshaun Watson. 372 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: But even though I really liked them getting nine points 373 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, and you know what they did cover and 374 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: they get Nick Chubb back, So I look at it 375 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: like I'm not picking at Deshaun Watson team. 376 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 2: I'm picking a Nick Chubb team. 377 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: And this is a division matchup, which the Browns have 378 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: done very well in the Zach Taylor era. They've traditionally 379 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: beaten Zach Taylor's teams, especially in Cleveland. Not that that's 380 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: a huge deal, but I do think division matchups maybe 381 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: make mismatches closer. And I'm just not really all in 382 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: on like this Bengals defense has solved everything. 383 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 2: So give me five and a half points, I'll take 384 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 2: the Browns. 385 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 4: Oh. I don't know if the Bengals defense has solved anything, 386 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 4: but my I just I, in good conscience, I cannot 387 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 4: take until the Browns get over a twenty percent third 388 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 4: down conversion rate, which they haven't done all season long. 389 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 4: It is nineteen percent. It's up from eighteen percent last week. Great, 390 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 4: but until they consistently get can convert twenty I'm asking 391 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 4: for nothing. Twenty percent of your third downs. Huh huh, 392 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 4: I will give you a touchdown to the other team. 393 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 4: I just think that is that is not good. I 394 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 4: have not that is a decidedly un good. No, that's 395 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 4: terrible Nick Chubb. I guess when it comes twenty five 396 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 4: saved the day. 397 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: I've been rooting Nick Chubb against this Browns team because 398 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: of the Shawn Watson for years. I feel bad for 399 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: their fans, and so this is I think a week 400 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: where we can celebrate something good happening for the Browns, 401 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: and that's going to be covering five and a half points. 402 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 4: Be clear, the way that you navigate this for fantasy is, yes, 403 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 4: you're starting Nick Chubb number one, and yes you're starting 404 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 4: David and Joku that's number two, okay. And if you're 405 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 4: in playing a daily format and you're looking for like 406 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 4: a guy who could potentially have upside but has not 407 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 4: done anything so far this year, it'd be Jerry Judy. 408 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 4: So again, I don't I'm not saying for your for 409 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 4: your season long, it's only Nick Chubb, that is it, 410 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 4: But or maybe David in joke if you're like really 411 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 4: bad with a tight end. But if you're playing DFS 412 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 4: and you want some good contrarian contrarian value, Jerry Judy. 413 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 2: I love this. 414 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: Come for the picks, Come for the picks, Gay Navigation 415 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 1: for the DFS Fantasy. 416 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 4: What do you love DFS and Fantasy Man. 417 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: Well, we are not allowed to play DFS as employees, 418 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: but we can give advice. 419 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: Cynthia again, I'm I'm not playing. 420 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 4: I'm just saying what I would do if I were 421 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 4: allowed to play. 422 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 2: I love it. 423 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: If you want more of Cynthia's numbers lot has so 424 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: many numbers, like a billion. She has a model that 425 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: does everything possible. She has a YouTube. 426 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 2: I don't know. You don't call it a YouTube page, 427 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 2: just a YouTube. 428 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: Your YouTube page is called Numbers Game with Cynthia Friland 429 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: and the game show like long preview every week, picking 430 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: the primetime game separately to the Thursday night. 431 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 2: It is good stuff. It is possible. 432 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 4: Even this week's game, which was a very very like 433 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 4: I had to do a little extra digging to make 434 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 4: it exciting. 435 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: Yes, she's working really hard on that. So people should 436 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: check out Numbers Game with Cynthia Freeland. Check us out 437 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: on game debut. We will be back on NFL Daily 438 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: on Sunday Night with Nick Shook and Patrick claybah I 439 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: went fourteen to o in my straight up picks last week. 440 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 2: Fourteen to know. 441 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: So when the picks are starting to be right, like 442 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: Cynthia and I, I can feel a hot streak coming. 443 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: You know, football is back. We'll see us sudden