1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Fold, reverence and occasionally random The Sunday Hang with Clay 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: and Buck podcast. It starts now. So I stumbled across 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: this over the weekend on my wedding weekend, which was great. 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: Thank you for all the well wishes. By the way, 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 1: so many of you I appreciate thousands and thousands of 6 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: people saying congratulations. Thank you all. I love you all. 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: I'm trying to write back to as many as I can, 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: but it's it's been an overwhelming outpouring of sport. Thank 9 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: you for that. But I have some words of wisdom 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: here from Clay's own hometown, actually from Clay's home state 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: of Tennessee, from his city of Nashville. One of my 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: favorite comedians these days on the scene, and he doesn't curse. 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: It's not all you know, profane crazy stuff. It's you 14 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: can take your family to see him. Anybody, take your grandparents, 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: your kids. He's really funny. Is Nashville favorite Nate Bargatsy, 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: and he just had some words here. Maybe think of Clay. 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: Play it forty three, you still think you're young. I 18 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: have this jacket on and I hang out with a 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: twenty three year old and I'm like, you get a dude, 20 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: which is a couple of young dudes kicking it. Some 21 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: guy will walk up, he's like, I'm forty five. I'm like, 22 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: why don't you beat it, old man? I can't believe 23 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: that guy had the nerve to think he was our age, right, dude, 24 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: that's crazy. Let's go sit down for a little bit. So, 25 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: so I'm forty one and Clay's forty three or forty four. 26 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: So this hit home right away. I'm looking at the 27 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: twenty something. I'm like, yeah, you know, you're young like me, 28 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: not like that old man. Clay Travis, Nate Bargass. He's 29 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: really really funny. He's a friend. We're the exact same 30 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,559 Speaker 1: age from Nashville and grew up into a time when 31 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: for those of you out there who have been to 32 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: Nashville recently, but Nashville is like Las Vegas now, you know, 33 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: it's it's always on, it's always crazy, and back in 34 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: the day it was a lot sleepier of a town. 35 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: And so U made is really funny. But a lot 36 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: of his jokes about growing up literally are the experience 37 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: that I had, right, Like, I mean, it's very rare 38 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: that you have somebody who's also in media in some way. 39 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: And obviously he's different comedy. I'm sports in this show 40 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: and everything else, but we have the exact same youth 41 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: experiences basically. And uh, and he's I think he's a 42 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: new Netflix special, highly recommended. He's he's just a really 43 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: good funny comedian. You know, he just goes and he 44 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: makes clever jokes to make people laugh and make them 45 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: feel good. It's really nice when a comedian does that. 46 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: You know, he's fantastic. Um. And he's right, I'm gonna 47 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: be out in the super Bowl and I'm gonna be like, 48 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,839 Speaker 1: oh no, there's all all these old guys Sunday Hay 49 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: with Clay and Buck. And at first I was looking 50 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: forward to my uh, The Last of Us, which is 51 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: this show that is very popular. It's become one of 52 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: those it shows right now. It's based on a video 53 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: game which I'm a man out have played to completion 54 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: years ago. Um, all the way through. But it's based 55 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: on a video game, and it's become a very popular show. 56 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: But you know, it's one of those video games that 57 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: they spent I don't even know how much. I think 58 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: it's sold almost a billion dollars worth of product around 59 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: around the world. It was an enormously success. Would you 60 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: would recommend this show like it is? Like people seem 61 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: to look I like it. Look, I'll say this. If 62 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: you like The Walking Dead, which is a lot of 63 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: our people, a lot of our audience, which I also like, 64 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: I fell off it got a little too violent and 65 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: nihilistic for me toward the end the Last you know, 66 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: the toward the ever knows what I'm talking about, the 67 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: guy with the bat nigan I think is his name, 68 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: the whole thing. But anyway, if you like The Walking Dead, 69 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: you'll like this show. So I'm watching it. I'm trying 70 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: to watch The Last of Us. It's fascinating because the 71 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: most recent episode I didn't see. I didn't get through 72 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: all of last night's the Newest One, but the week before, 73 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: the entire episode, the entire episode was devoted to a 74 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: gay love story. It was about two guys who are 75 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: surviving the apocalypse together, and you know, Jeff Bezos tweeted 76 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: about it everything else, and people were, oh, it's very beautiful, 77 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: but who wants it? I mean, it's bringing a lot 78 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: of people like her, like, this thing's awesome, right. What 79 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: I thought was interesting, though, is that the New York 80 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: Times response to this a few days ago was in 81 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: the opinion section. One of their authors wrote, the Last 82 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: of Us is a very conservative show, to which I'm like, 83 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: so the show that just had a an entire hour 84 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: and by the way, none of the rest of the 85 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: show is like about some romantic love story. It's about 86 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: fungus zombies eating people's faces. I mean, you know, it's 87 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: pretty silly, pretty silly stuff. The whole show is about 88 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: Nick Offerman, who played famously and incredibly into my mind. 89 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: I think he was amazing as Ron Swanson in this 90 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: show Parks and Recreation, which I can also recommend, but 91 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: skip the season two, just skipseas one altogether if you 92 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: haven't seen it. Nick Offerman plays this guy. Anyway, They 93 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: say it's very conservative because it's about guns and surviving 94 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: the apocalypse and the pandemic authorities. And it's like, Okay, 95 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: they just did a whole episode about, you know, two 96 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: gay guys in love, and we're being told that this 97 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: is the most conservative show imaginable. Whatever. Put that aside. 98 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: You're just getting used to, you know, you're getting used 99 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: to all this content having to be woke in some 100 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: way all the time. And I wouldn't even argue necessarily 101 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: that this because it does actually come from the video game. 102 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: I'm not even saying that the gay love stories necessarily woke. 103 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,799 Speaker 1: But you just expect the wokeness to be judged and everything. 104 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: You can't escape it, right, You can't make a show 105 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: without the columnists weighing in and saying, oh, but is 106 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: this woken off or not so woke or whatever. Everything 107 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: is seen through the political lens. And so I was 108 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: looking for something else, and sure enough, I see an 109 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: advertisement on Hulu Clay for the sixteen nineteen Project show, 110 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: which is out there now. So I thought this would 111 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: be an interesting opportunity for us. First of all, here's 112 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: we have a short clip from the trailer for the 113 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: sixteen nineteen Project TV show, and here's just a sampling 114 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: of it. The truth is, Black Americans have always been 115 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: foundational to the idea of American freedom. Fight. It will 116 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: always be a fight. You are calling for reparations. What 117 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: is the total that would you? Thirteen trillion dollars. That's 118 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: a big number, big debt though, there's a guy calling 119 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: for reparations there, you know, thirteen trillion, thirteen trillion with 120 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: the T trucover this isn't the trailer for the series. 121 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: It's remarkable when you see so I've read the sixteen 122 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: nineteen Project essays. I have not seen the series to 123 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: be fair, but you know, Clay, a lot of people 124 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: have come in with including from the from the left left, 125 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: you know what would be considerably left or liberal. Academics 126 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: historians have said that there's a lot of problems with 127 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: the way the sixteen nineteen Project is presented. I mean, 128 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: the biggest one that I always think of is the 129 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: notion that the American Revolution was fought as a defense 130 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: of slavery. Historians have just the American Room, not the 131 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: Civil War, about the American Revolution against the British was 132 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: to create a quote slaveocracy, which is in the founding 133 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: essay of the sixteen nineteen Project as a central concept, 134 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: and it is just historically ignorant. It is not true 135 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: that that is actually what was happening. Yeah, that's what 136 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: frustrates me the most about it. And this has gotten 137 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: its ten drils into the larger historiography, which I had 138 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: never even heard that word until I was a history 139 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: major in college. And historiography is basically the study of 140 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: how we study history as opposed to just history itself 141 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: and what stories are told in which stories we choose 142 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: to focus on in all of those aspects of history. 143 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: And the babylon b actually had a great story that said, 144 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: and I'm paraphrasing here, and bablon Be certainly is like 145 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: a conservative version of the Onion our friends set Dylan, 146 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: who's a really smart, funny guy. But it essentially said, 147 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: you reparations are owed to every person who's ever lived, 148 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: because everyone's ancestors were slaves at some time. And this 149 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: is the essence of why the sixteen nineteen project is 150 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: fundamentally flawed, because it focuses only buck on the eighty 151 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: years that slavery was legal in the United States as 152 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: an independent nation seventeen eighty three to eighteen sixty three, 153 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: as if it is the fundamental guiding tenant of America itself. 154 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: And obviously sixteen nineteen or first the first year that 155 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: enslaved Africans arrived in the United States. But it is 156 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: such a myopic version of United States history that is 157 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: trying to destroy the idea of America as a fundamentally 158 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: good country. That's the essence of it. I mean, when 159 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: you read through the sixteen nineteen project, and I'm trying 160 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: to do I want to spend the time, the hours 161 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: to watch the show to do a critique of it. 162 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: That's a you know, reading fine, I'll read anything to 163 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: critique it watching because I also feel like I'm supporting 164 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: you know, I'm another and it's true of reading as 165 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: we all. I get it, but you know, I just 166 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: I can't really get my head around I'm gonna watch 167 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: something that I'm just doing it to be able to 168 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: critique it, because I know I'm not going to agree 169 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: because I've read the essay. It's not like I'm taking 170 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: a shot in the dark ear out of you know, 171 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: out of nowhere. I've read the essays and I can 172 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: say this. I mean, one thing that's entirely missing from 173 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: the sixteen nineteen project. And the reason this matters so 174 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: much is that everyone needs to remember. This is being 175 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:51,359 Speaker 1: used as a as essentially a program of historical indoctrination 176 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: in schools now So children are being taught the sixteen 177 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: nineteen project as history, and there are enormous problems and 178 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: shortcomings with it as history, even apart from the obvious politicization. 179 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: And you know, you go from slavery horrible, really bad, 180 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: totally true, till all of a sudden it fast forwards 181 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: to the BLM movement and you go, wait, well, what's 182 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: the and they're they're creating present No that they really 183 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: you know, I mean that it goes through, it goes 184 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: through the history. You know you're talking about and what 185 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 1: you know. In one essay it'll be describing what's going 186 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: on in you know, the seventeen seventies, and then all 187 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's, uh, there's photos of people doing 188 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: you know, BLM stuff, and you're just saying, wait, wait 189 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: a second, BLM protests and so there's it's explicitly political, 190 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: but they leave out things like slavery had existed, as 191 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: we know, for thousands of years all over the world, 192 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: that it was a constant in the human condition, that 193 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: whether it's ancient Rome or the or the the Jews 194 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: in Egypt, or white Christians being grabbed by Muslim coursayers 195 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: or the Barbary pirates, and that occurred all over the 196 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: coast of Europe for hundreds of years. To I mean, 197 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: find me a society historically that had power, and I'll 198 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: find you society essentially that had slaves that was the 199 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: truism of human history and the first time that there 200 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: was a recognition of this as morally wrong. Not a 201 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: question of we don't have the power to do this, 202 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: or it's not on our interests right now, but this 203 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: is morally wrong. And the birthplace of a real abolition 204 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: movement was within the United States. This is entirely left 205 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: out of the context of the sixteen nineteen project. It's 206 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: fascinating to see how the sixteen nineteen project jumps around 207 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: from the British are kind of the good guys in 208 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: this because they abolish slavery before the United States does. 209 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: But it's more complicated that. First of all, they didn't 210 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: abolish slavery in their possessions in the Caribbean until I 211 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: think it was the eighteen thirties. They also and you know, 212 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: they talk about the trans Atlantic slave trade, and this 213 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: is all supposed to be visited upon America, Brazil, South America, 214 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: Central America, the Caribbean. There there were slave importation going 215 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: on to every country to our south. That was a 216 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: reality as well. The first slaves were brought here, as 217 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: we know, by Port well, they were taken from Portuguese 218 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: slave traders in West Africa and then given to English 219 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: English pirates who then sold them to colonists here in America. 220 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: But there are substantial historical shortcomings. The British not only 221 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: did they not abolish slavery in their Caribbean colonies, so 222 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: the eighteen thirties, Clay, they were going to support the Confederacy. Yeah, 223 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: during the Civil War. Yeah, which I so. So the 224 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: British are the good guys during the Revolution because they 225 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: were the ones trying to end slavery. But then the 226 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: British are going to fight with the Confederacy. They didn't, 227 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: but they were supporting the Confederacy to preserve slavery. So 228 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: it's just there's a a total lack of honesty in 229 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: the project that comes across in very important ways. Yeah, 230 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: And anytime you focus exclusively on one part of the story. 231 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about this recently, but there's very 232 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: little attention paid to, you know, the six hundred thousand 233 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: white people who died in the Civil War, right, almost everyone, 234 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: at least if you had people who were in the 235 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: United States in the eighteen sixties ancestors, you would have 236 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 1: had either northern or Southern soldiers who died in your 237 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: past I mean I used as an example, I certainly did, 238 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: because some of my ancestors are from the South, but 239 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: a lot of them are from Kentucky, and Kentucky obviously 240 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: was a border state where some people fought on both sides. 241 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: One of my ancestors died fighting hand to hand combat 242 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: with Nathan Bedford Forrest as a Union Cavalry soldier. Now 243 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: I also had Southern Confederate background, But how do you 244 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: balance out that? Like literally having someone who was your 245 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: one of your ancestors dying in a civil war on 246 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: the side of the North kind of seems like a 247 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: significant factor in how much responsibility you're going to be assessed, right, 248 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: And the big issue here is none of us did 249 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: anything wrong, right like none of us. I mean, this 250 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: also is in a past. And yes, holding people you 251 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: know responsible today for what people did who have been 252 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: long since dead, I think is obviously immoral. But that's 253 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: part of the whole project here, is to make this 254 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: the problem of everybody living today into demand thirteen trillion 255 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: dollars trillion of reparations. I mean, I could sit here, 256 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: just we we could do maybe we should at some point, 257 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: just a whole breaking down the areas where there's just 258 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: an intentional editorial decision made to omit things that are 259 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: not And this is being taught to your kids everybody, 260 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: so this matters. They're using this in schools, you know, 261 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: when they say that the Revolution was fought to defend slavery, 262 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: which is the explicit, explicit contention in the In the 263 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: foundational essay by Nicole Hannah Jones of the sixteen nineteen Project, 264 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: there is no mention of the fact that about ten 265 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: percent of those who fought against the British on the 266 00:14:53,960 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: side of the colonists revolution, we're black, Yeah, join up 267 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: to fight alongside the rest of the colonists. No, no, 268 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: no discussion. There is mention of Crispus Attucks, who was 269 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: the first person they say who died in the Revolutionary 270 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: It was actually, I believe it of the Boston Master. Yeah, 271 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: but there were freedom there were freedmen who signed up 272 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: to fight alongside the Americans, I mean at the time 273 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: the colonists, a substantial number of them in the Revolution, 274 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: which which was something that you would have you would 275 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: think that there would have to be some dealing with this. 276 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: And just also the fundamental premise that the constitution of 277 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: the Founding was a lie when it was written, which 278 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: is something that's repeated frequently in the sixteen nineteen Project 279 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: when Frederick Douglas said, no, it was genius, it was brilliance. 280 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: We just had to fight to make it. So, you know, 281 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: the decision not to throw out the Founding as something 282 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: that was a lie, but to understand the Founding is 283 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: something that was remarkable in human history, as setting in 284 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: motion the greatest country that ever. So anyway, I just 285 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: our democracy's ideals were false when they were written. That 286 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: That is the line from the sixteen nineteen Project, and 287 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: I just think that's troublesome for people to get a 288 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: very one sided view of American history. There are a 289 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: lot of troubling facts in the sixteen nineteen Project that 290 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: people should know. There's a lot of history that is 291 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: good and people do need to understand, but there are 292 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: a lot of things clay that are taking you know, 293 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: as you brought up brought up civil War. Was half 294 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: a million, six hundred thousand people died in the Civil 295 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: War to end the institution of slavery. That would seem 296 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: to be something that might want to work more into 297 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: the analysis here of exactly who was willing to do 298 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: what to end this institution Sundays with Clay and Buck. 299 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: You know, there are a lot of things that are 300 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: being smuggled across the US Mexico border, very very serious things. 301 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: As we know, we talked about it here a lot. 302 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: The border is wide open, but this was not one 303 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: of the things that I expected we would have to 304 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: think of as now being smuggled in from Mexico. Eggs. 305 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: I don't mean eggs full of cocaine. I don't mean 306 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: eggs like plastic eggs that are stuffed with little baggies 307 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: of heroin. I mean chicken eggs that you would use 308 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 1: for any number of delicious meals. I'm personally I'm a 309 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: big scrambled eggs guy, Clay, I do make amazing scrambled eggs. 310 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: When you come and stay with carrying me sometimes do 311 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: you eat eggs? You're not an egg guy. I'm fine 312 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: with eggs, although I was stunned how much eggs get 313 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 1: consumed in general, Like I'm not anti In the New 314 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: York Time, I mean sorry. In the Wall Street Journal, 315 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: they had an article about the average American eats twenty 316 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: eight pounds of eggs a year. Eggs are a base 317 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: protein for America, for the American diet, and by the way, 318 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: a very good all that stuff you heard about eggs 319 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,959 Speaker 1: you're for you limited num, But that's nonsense. Everyone's realized 320 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 1: this now. Who actually pays attention to nutrition in the studies, 321 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: Eggs are a super food. They are phenomenal for you overall. 322 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 1: Eating eggs a great source of protein. A lot of 323 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: other things in that are really good for you. Eggs 324 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:18,719 Speaker 1: and chicken, I think are our foundation in our diets, 325 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: in the Western diet, American diet, that's our foundational protein. 326 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: And eggs have gotten really expensive. I had I mentioned 327 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: this on the show because I eat eggs every day, 328 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:29,719 Speaker 1: so I'm one of those. I'm one of those America. 329 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: I probably eat, you know, more than twenty eight pounds 330 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: of eggs a year. But you know the problem Clay 331 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: I have is I'll put like goat cheese and cheddar 332 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: and throw some bacon bits in there. You know, I 333 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: go full fat kid with my eggs. I should if 334 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: I just had the eggs. That's super super healthy. But 335 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: US Customs and Border Protection says that eggs seizures because 336 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: you're not supposed to just bring up, you know, all 337 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: that stuff, or you bring any fruits or vegetables or 338 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: you know, meter poultry products with you. They have egg 339 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: seizures have risen ninety one percent in El Paso, three 340 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty three percent and twoson three hundred and 341 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: sixty eight percent in San Diego. So this is where 342 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: I mean there are a lot of people trying to 343 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: sneak eggs across the border. I mean you have to 344 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: wonder how long is it before people are flying drones 345 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: with eggs and doing some of the cartel things that 346 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: they do. Maybe a tunnel underground under the border with 347 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, eggs being sent from one side to the other. 348 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: And I also you told me this. I didn't realize this. 349 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: You know, in my neighborhood down here in South Florida, 350 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: they're actually your neighborhood chickens. Yeah, there there are chickens 351 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: just wandering the neighborhood, which I had not That's not 352 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: something I when I'm back up in New York City, 353 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: I don't experience that. Well, down here you have you 354 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: have neighbor chicken. More and more people want to have 355 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: chickens so they can have their own eggs. So this 356 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: is wild. The Wall Street Journal actually had a front 357 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: page about this about how much the price of chickens 358 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 1: have gone up, so a ton of people are, to 359 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: your point, buying their own chickens to raise them so 360 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: they can get eggs. They've actually sold out all over 361 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: the country of chickens, like you can't buy them. And 362 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: this Wall Street Journal article says Tractor Supply Co. Is 363 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: the industry's biggest seller of chickens. It's more than doubled 364 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: it's live chicken business since twenty eighteen. They expect buck 365 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: to sell eleven million chicks this year. And a lot 366 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: of people are buying their own little chickens and then 367 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: raising them, and you can't even get chickens now. They're 368 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: saying they're out basically out of stock because there is 369 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,239 Speaker 1: such a shortage because people have said, oh, eggs are 370 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: so expensive, now I'm gonna raise chickens and get my 371 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: own natural eggs. You can't even buy them now because 372 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 1: they're such a shortage because they've gotten so popular. You know, 373 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: I've been to a Tractor supply many times because when 374 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 1: we would go visit my grandparents in the Hudson Valley 375 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: in New York. There with a lived in a farm 376 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: area was there. They were bordered by farms. I mean 377 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: it was all farms, and then they had this plot 378 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: of land that they built a house on as a 379 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: place to go in the summers. And I just remember 380 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: we would go into tractor supply when my mom and dabt. 381 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: I was like we were a kid, when I was 382 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: a kid, and the little yellow chicks they are really cute, 383 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: so they're they're selling them. They have like a little 384 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: bin of these yellow chicks, and you're like, I could 385 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: take one of these home, but my parents would, of 386 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: course always remind us. They then grow into chickens that 387 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: poop and peck and you know, have needs, bigger problems. 388 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: You know. It's kind of like when you get your 389 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: kid a little, tiny, adorable fit in your hand bunny 390 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: rabbit for Easter. That little rabbit's gonna live like eight 391 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: to ten years and it's gonna grow into a big 392 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 1: rabbit that's gonna have big rabbit needs. But if you're 393 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: doing this for the for the eggs, I can imagine 394 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: that for a lot of people financially, it feels like 395 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: that makes especially because you know, right you have miracle 396 00:21:58,119 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: of life. You have some chickens, some of the eggs 397 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: can fertilize, you have more chickens, and then you can 398 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: produce all your own eggs, and maybe you can sort 399 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: of sell eggs of some of your neighbors until the 400 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: FBI probably comes after you for illicit egg sales. But 401 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: you know this is what happens. Well, you also have 402 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: to be careful because then you have a chicken coop, 403 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: and then there are all sorts of animals trying to 404 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: raid the chicken coop, so you have to protect the 405 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: chicken coop. It turns into a big investment. The Wall 406 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: Street Journal story says it costs you about six hundred 407 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: dollars to get to the point where you can have 408 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: chickens raising eggs when you factor in the cost of 409 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: a coop, when you factor in all the feed that 410 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: you're going to have to not to mention the time, 411 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: but so you're making a six hundred dollars investment. When 412 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: I was a kid, Buck one of the most popular 413 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: little places at opry Land, which was maybe the worst 414 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: decision made in the history of the city of Nashville 415 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: to allow this amusement park, country music themed amusement park 416 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: to get shut down and replaced with a mall that 417 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: nobody cares about. But they had a chicken area where 418 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: you could go watch all the baby chicks being born. 419 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: And you know, they had it was they had like 420 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: a farm land area or whatever. And I just remember 421 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 1: how intoxicating and hypnotizing in many ways it was as 422 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: a little kid to get to sit there and watch 423 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: all of the chickens being born coming out of the eggs. 424 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: So I imagine there are a lot of parents out 425 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: there that have done this chicken coop thing not only 426 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: for the purposes of, hey, we can have fresh organic 427 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: eggs that we're creating on our own, but also to 428 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: show the kids how much fun it can be to 429 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: create kind of this little chicken coop