WEBVTT - A Reading With Jonathan Mark

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<v Speaker 1>This is He Said a Yadiho with Eric Winter and

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<v Speaker 1>Rosalind Fantaz.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, everybody, welcome back to another episode of He

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<v Speaker 2>Said Aado. We are continuing our conversation this week with

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<v Speaker 2>Jonathan Mark. Last week we talked about his medium work

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<v Speaker 2>in law enforcement, and today we're going to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>him about doing my reading.

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<v Speaker 3>Henna.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna actually dive in and give me a reading,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's see who shows up. Welcome back, Jonathan Mark. Okay, Jonathan,

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<v Speaker 2>So you just blew my mind on all the stuff

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<v Speaker 2>you've done working with law enforcement. Again, I could have

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<v Speaker 2>talked about that for hours. Producers wanted you to, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess talk with me a little bit about something on

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<v Speaker 2>my end. I don't even know how we start with

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<v Speaker 2>something like that. I don't know where to begin. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I've had this, you know, I've gone through

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<v Speaker 2>this a couple of times with people. I'll just give

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<v Speaker 2>you free rain go. You tell me a little more

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<v Speaker 2>detail and I come on your podcast. But I guess

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<v Speaker 2>tell me so, I'll I'll explain to.

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<v Speaker 1>You very quickly how I do it, so you're not like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the heck is this kid doing? But basically, I

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<v Speaker 1>always look off to the side when I do stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and the reason is to blank.

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<v Speaker 4>My mind out when I do it.

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<v Speaker 1>But like a pretty big key factors like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like going off with people's reactions to anything. So there

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<v Speaker 1>will be times I'll take a drink of like my Gatorade,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll obviously talk to you and stuff like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna just like drink and look away. But but

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<v Speaker 1>but basically like I'll be, you know, pulling in friends, family,

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<v Speaker 1>people that passed away, and so I'll be saying like

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<v Speaker 1>their names, like you know things about them, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if like if it gets too intimate, like let me know,

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<v Speaker 1>because I've done this before with people and their shows

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<v Speaker 1>and it's gotten way too intimate and they didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>like want it to be on there and they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>air it. So I just want, like, stop me if

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<v Speaker 1>it gets that way in any way.

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<v Speaker 5>And basically what I typically.

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<v Speaker 1>Do with like readings and law enforcement stuff is I

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<v Speaker 1>always flip I do a three sixty views just to

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<v Speaker 1>show them Like when I stare off, I'm literally, like

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<v Speaker 1>I've said to you before, like earlier on is staring

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<v Speaker 1>at a wall.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'll do that quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't judge me about the pillows that my mom's I'm

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<v Speaker 1>at her house. So that's basically what I look at,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but I do that because people are always like,

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<v Speaker 1>what the heck are you looking at? Trying to eliminate

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<v Speaker 1>that for people and.

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<v Speaker 2>No harm, no foul, if nothing happens exciting, it's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I've I've done the one time I did

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<v Speaker 2>this and I said this on on earlier in the introduction,

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<v Speaker 2>I had nobody showed up, like the medium came is like,

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<v Speaker 2>now many people want to talk to you. There's like

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<v Speaker 2>I was shocked and recently finally came in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, don't tell me about who I won't.

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<v Speaker 3>Want to say something.

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<v Speaker 2>And then but they did predict some things down the

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<v Speaker 2>road that ended up playing out cool, which is interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So like I'll go on.

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<v Speaker 1>If you you know, have a question or whatever, just

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<v Speaker 1>tell me to shut up.

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<v Speaker 5>I will shut up because no good from New York.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I could talk forever, so like, just

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<v Speaker 1>tell me to shut up, but I will start. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't stay like that because I would be also really

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<v Speaker 1>weird too. Uh so you spoke to me him and

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<v Speaker 1>they said no one came through.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Yeah, that was once.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you definitely have like a you definitely have someone,

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<v Speaker 1>you have someone with like a W name that keeps

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<v Speaker 1>popping in pretty hard. I mean, so typically how energy

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<v Speaker 1>lines up for me, I go by family tree and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>When someone's over someone's shoulder, typically it's a parental type

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<v Speaker 1>of energy. So I'm assuming, yeah, you have a W name.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know William Wayne Walter. You have a W name.

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<v Speaker 3>Am I supposed to give you anything back?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'll go and then you can find I just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be authentic for you, So I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>you to tell me too much.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean this, this looks like your father, if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>being honest with you, the way that he's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>coming through or like a father figure.

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<v Speaker 5>But when someone keeps.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I bring up a date, I don't bring

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<v Speaker 1>up like an exact date, So don't like I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>that good, So don't uh think that. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's typically an important date, whether it's someone's birthday

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<v Speaker 1>or like anniversary of something. When they show me, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like February March time, like at the beginning, like like

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the winter into spring. I guess it's typically

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<v Speaker 1>a significance of a birthday or anniversary of sorts.

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<v Speaker 5>Also too, I gotta ask you this, because.

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<v Speaker 4>This person's doing this, it's not weird or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh, But my grandfather used to have fake teeth, and

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<v Speaker 1>he used to have like this fake teeth, and he

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<v Speaker 1>looked a little fake, maybe because he was older back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day. But now obviously teeth can look not fake.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess because this, I'm assuming it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Your father or father figure.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, he keeps taking teeth and he keeps

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<v Speaker 1>like chomping and joking around about it, saying like his

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<v Speaker 1>teeth were so big and like white and like perfect

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<v Speaker 1>as he got older, like they looked like beautiful teeth,

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<v Speaker 1>like teeth and not like my small chick lit teeth.

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<v Speaker 1>And like also too, I mean, this is also quite impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like he passed away when he was a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit older. But like also too, he keeps playing

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<v Speaker 1>with his hair, talking about like hair and how important

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<v Speaker 1>because he keeps smiling, saying he was a good looking

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<v Speaker 1>guy when he was younger, with a full head of hair.

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<v Speaker 1>But then he keeps reverting back to like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is why I'm saying it's impressive. It's because it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like he kept a majority of his hair for

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty long time, a lot longer than other men do,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm being honest. This is also funny through my

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<v Speaker 1>grandfather used to have these big freaking glasses. Man. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like I used to tell my you know, like the

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Dahmer. I know, it's like really choice to say,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Jeffrey Dahmer glasses. Yeah, And I just watched that, so, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm late to the party and stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>But because he keeps like, he keeps showing to me that.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh wow, he was also really smart too. This is interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>He's actually really it's really smart.

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<v Speaker 1>Because he keeps talking to me the importance of like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know people that have like the old school

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<v Speaker 1>traditional values of like my grandfather used to tell me this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like go to school, get a job and all

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff, like very traditional. Because what he's smiling about is,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you were on a traditional path, and you

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<v Speaker 1>obviously took.

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<v Speaker 4>On the entertainment path.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's saying you were on a very traditional path

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<v Speaker 1>because he's clapping for you, and then he's smiling and

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<v Speaker 1>saying because he keeps talking and this is why I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about his looks, because he keeps saying, like you

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<v Speaker 1>were smart and like very good looking, and it just

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<v Speaker 1>melted together, it's what he's saying, because he's saying, always

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<v Speaker 1>use your brain, like do things once and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to do things twice. But he's really talking to

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<v Speaker 1>me about Also.

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<v Speaker 4>His style is also like pretty impeccable too. I wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to ask you.

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<v Speaker 1>I know this is gonna be like a little creepy

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<v Speaker 1>and weird, but that's not creeping weird.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't like to keep saying that, but.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like his style of sorts, like was

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<v Speaker 1>he a very well dressed man when he was when

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<v Speaker 1>you were growing up with him? Because he keeps smiling

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<v Speaker 1>and he's making a joke saying he was very thin

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<v Speaker 1>and then he kind of like let himself go a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, is what he's saying, but not in a

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<v Speaker 1>bad way. Just you age and things happen, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but like with him in particular, what he's talking to

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<v Speaker 1>me about is, oh, well, this has to be your father,

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<v Speaker 1>because he's talking about how you take care of your

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<v Speaker 1>siblings and stuff. Keeps talking about how you've become like this,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying matriarch, not in like, you know, any type

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<v Speaker 1>of way. But he's saying you've become like this person.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's really talking about how proud he is of

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<v Speaker 1>you being a father as well too, because he keeps

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<v Speaker 1>leaning into he keeps saying that he felt like he

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<v Speaker 1>was such a huge part of your childhood and you're

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<v Speaker 1>growing up in anything you were doing, because he keeps

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<v Speaker 1>clapping his hand saying like he was. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>he was a cheerleader, That's not what I'm saying, but

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<v Speaker 1>someone who was very supportive of anything that you were

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<v Speaker 1>to do. And what he's saying is you're doing the

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<v Speaker 1>same exact thing. What he's also smiling about too, is

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<v Speaker 1>and he's making a joke, which is why I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you this. He's saying, your hair will will

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<v Speaker 1>never be as good as his hair, is what he

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<v Speaker 1>keeps talking about, like he keeps playing with his hair

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<v Speaker 1>and keep playing with yours, and he keeps smiling and

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<v Speaker 1>tapping his head saying like his was always really Well,

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<v Speaker 1>who's the g name who's living around you? Who's like

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<v Speaker 1>Gina Gwen? Yeah, that's you can tell you, Yeah, Because

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<v Speaker 1>he's he wants to say something.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's my mom. That's what is my dad?

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<v Speaker 5>That's what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Gwen is my mom. You said that name, and

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<v Speaker 2>you also said my dad's name, which was Wayne.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, his name is Wayney.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just rattle off names when I see an initial,

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<v Speaker 1>so it sparks people. I probably said, like William, that's

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<v Speaker 1>my first w name I always go to, honestly, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm surprised you said Wayne because that's a that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>a not as common.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, I've been reading people recently with like Walter

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<v Speaker 1>and Wayne.

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<v Speaker 4>Where are two very big names.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's really Yeah, that's why I've been I said

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<v Speaker 1>those two names because recently those two names came up

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<v Speaker 1>in the last couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 5>It's okay.

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<v Speaker 4>With about the passing, I don't want to like say.

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<v Speaker 3>Anything that you can.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, there's something you want to say to my

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<v Speaker 2>mom too, So I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Curious about Well, it's it's revolving around the past. Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I didn't. I don't know if you want

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<v Speaker 1>me to say anything. Okay, that's want to be respectful,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all.

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<v Speaker 5>So I want to ask you too, because he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying, was there an age gap with your parents? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>because he keeps making a joke saying that he was

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit older than your mom.

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<v Speaker 4>It seems.

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<v Speaker 3>Almost ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's just making a joke saying that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's like a bit of an age gap, so I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to kind of assume. But he's also smiling though,

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<v Speaker 1>really about this is the biggest thing that without getting

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<v Speaker 1>to like personal or like anything, because I try to

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<v Speaker 1>protect people, like that's just what I do, and I

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<v Speaker 1>go on shows if I'm being honest, but for lack

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<v Speaker 1>of better words, really seems like your mom was a

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<v Speaker 1>big advocate of helping out. Is really what I want to,

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<v Speaker 1>like without saying too much, because what he's talking to

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<v Speaker 1>me about is circle of life and how like it

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<v Speaker 1>became very difficult to do simple tasks is what he's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get into certain things with me, so standing up,

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<v Speaker 1>using the restroom, things like that, like you have to

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<v Speaker 1>literally take care of someone to do something at times,

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<v Speaker 1>and it becomes like a very caretaker type of role

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<v Speaker 1>that people step into just in general speaking, and he

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<v Speaker 1>keeps saying that when things go very fast and things

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<v Speaker 1>start to decline very fast. It's very hard to navigate

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<v Speaker 1>to really expect what's going to happen. But then also

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<v Speaker 1>see someone who was always taking care of people or

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<v Speaker 1>trying their best to take care of people to being

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<v Speaker 1>very dependent on others.

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<v Speaker 5>Is what he keeps saying to me. Because what he keeps.

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<v Speaker 1>Saying, why I'm saying this is because you could be

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<v Speaker 1>a man or woman, it doesn't matter, but someone who's

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<v Speaker 1>always there for someone and like always being the protector

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff he's saying as he got older, as much

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<v Speaker 1>as he tried to keep I'm not saying he was

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<v Speaker 1>running a five k every day.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not what I'm saying, but.

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<v Speaker 1>It seemed because he keeps snapping his fingers at me, saying,

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<v Speaker 1>like things seem to have turned pretty quick and fast

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<v Speaker 1>with him. It wasn't a like ten year progression slow

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<v Speaker 1>of something. Because he keeps going like this, saying like

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<v Speaker 1>things seem to have moved at a pretty quick pace.

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<v Speaker 1>And what he's also saying to is he never wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be a bob, is what I'm trying to say,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he never wanted to be like, you have your

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<v Speaker 1>own life going on, you don't have to drop what

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing to be a part of something. Because your dad,

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<v Speaker 1>from my perspective, how he's coming through, he's an amazing guy,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's also very independent. I can see like he

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<v Speaker 1>would want to help you or help someone else versus

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<v Speaker 1>him being helped, if I'm being honest, because he's saying

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<v Speaker 1>it was just a very different take on.

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<v Speaker 5>I think life for him.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's also saying and he's smiling too, And this

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<v Speaker 1>is why I'm saying, he's making a joke because your

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<v Speaker 1>dad also too. I don't know, this is how he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He's being serious and he's making a joke. So he's

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of like lessening because he doesn't want it

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<v Speaker 1>to be so heavy the entire time. And he's just

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<v Speaker 1>saying and like why he's saying all this too, It's

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<v Speaker 1>really just because like he keeps talking to me about

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<v Speaker 1>like the age difference and how like he's making a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you know when you date someone with an

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<v Speaker 1>age gap, you know the stuff that you're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>going into, and he's just laughing at it.

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<v Speaker 5>He's like being completely like joking about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Buda, It's interesting, I know want it. There's two g

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<v Speaker 2>names my mom being one, but they're divorced that were

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<v Speaker 2>very involved when he was passing. When he was going

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<v Speaker 2>through his troubles, my mom was still an incredible woman

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<v Speaker 2>that supported him and was always there for him. Even

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<v Speaker 2>though they divorced when I was seven, they always maintained

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<v Speaker 2>a really great relationship and towards the end she would

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<v Speaker 2>see him a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because he's he only has And again that's something

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you want me to bring up,

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<v Speaker 1>Like people get very sensitive about like divorces and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. That's just like just something I've learned and

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<v Speaker 1>I got yelled at before, so I don't do it

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<v Speaker 1>anymore honestly. But yeah, he was saying, your mom has

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<v Speaker 1>always been it's like a wife without being a wife,

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<v Speaker 1>if that makes sense. It's what he's saying, because he's

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<v Speaker 1>saying he and this is why I said to you

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<v Speaker 1>in the beginning, How personal do you want me to get?

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<v Speaker 1>Because your dad keeps talking about there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>like we all have d I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Care who you are as a person. He keeps saying he.

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<v Speaker 1>Had to fight through some things that were very intense

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<v Speaker 1>for him, is what he's saying, Like personally, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I don't know if you want me to get into.

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<v Speaker 3>That, Yeah you can.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I'm curious. And I'm also curious because, like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, the other person that he was with for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time when he passed, who I don't necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>have the best relationship with, but she also was a

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<v Speaker 2>genium and she would also take care of him while

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<v Speaker 2>he was passing. It was in the house taking you know,

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<v Speaker 2>taking care of him. That was like his girlfriend a partner.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, like that's what I figured if he was saying,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's like the circle of life of like you

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<v Speaker 1>take care of someone like he wasn't showing that he

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<v Speaker 1>was in a hospital or like a nursing home or something.

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<v Speaker 2>No, and it was mainly his girlfriend that was taking

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<v Speaker 2>care of him primarily when he was passing. Yeah, going

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<v Speaker 2>through that process. But my mom was also very active,

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<v Speaker 2>seeing him as much as she could and spending time

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<v Speaker 2>with him and trying to help wherever she could as well,

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<v Speaker 2>even though she had no reason.

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<v Speaker 3>You know too, they were divorced, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, who was like a drinker or someone like that.

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<v Speaker 1>A drinker, well, like someone who did things successively, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it was drinking or something excessively.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't. I mean my dad.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom didn't drink at all. My dad drank a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. I don't think he'd drank excessively, but he

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<v Speaker 2>was more of a drinker than my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it would be someone who did something, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>drinking or something. Doesn't have to be drinking, just something excessive.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have to have been my dad when he

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<v Speaker 2>was younger.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, your dad seems like a fun person. I just

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<v Speaker 4>kind of assumed.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you too, because he's talking about

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<v Speaker 1>his passing about I'm using this as an example.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying this is what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm using this as an example when someone kidney's like

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<v Speaker 1>fail and stuff, or when they're going through like something

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<v Speaker 1>like that where it's like your body can't take medicine.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like recting medicine and rejecting things. Because what he

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<v Speaker 1>keeps talking to me about is what he went through

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<v Speaker 1>and how intense, like at times, how intense it was.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not talking about like when people get sick

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. It's intense wholeheartedly. I don't like whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>is he keeps saying there were certain times, in certain

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<v Speaker 1>aspects where he's saying again, it's not exactly that. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a similarity of like when your body's rejecting something

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<v Speaker 1>and your body's going through something, it's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more intense than when your body's accepting like anything. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's saying that he went through what he keeps showing

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<v Speaker 1>to me about the intensity of his passing, like the

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<v Speaker 1>intensity of like a kind of like what he went

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<v Speaker 1>through and to when he passed. And then also like

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<v Speaker 1>because what he keeps saying to me is and this

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<v Speaker 1>is just like the honest truth of it. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>him fighting and trying to, you know, fight to stay here,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was so intense, Like he's saying that it

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<v Speaker 1>was just like not a it wasn't a smooth ride,

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<v Speaker 1>is what he keeps saying.

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<v Speaker 5>But he's saying that this is also something too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like certain people don't complain about things, and they

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<v Speaker 1>don't share the full extent of what's going on. Like

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<v Speaker 1>they may share thirty forty percent of how they're feeling,

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<v Speaker 1>but then there's a whole sixty percent that they're really

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<v Speaker 1>not talking about. Because he's saying that at times, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure he would say he was uncomfortable or maybe not

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<v Speaker 1>feeling great, but he's saying he wasn't sharing the full

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<v Speaker 1>extent of how his body was. Because what he keeps

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<v Speaker 1>also showing to me too and like explaining to me,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, imagine if things just start going like failing,

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<v Speaker 1>like in your body, like you start like certain organs

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff start failing.

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<v Speaker 5>And he's like.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like it all he's making a comparison is like

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<v Speaker 1>when the ball goes rolling, it picks up steam, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't slow down. And that's kind of what he's like

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<v Speaker 1>explaining to me that it was like one thing after

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<v Speaker 1>another after another, but it was pretty serious stuff. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't small things. But he is also saying to me too,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's pointing at you and smiling at this is

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<v Speaker 1>there's some people that.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'll use my grandfather.

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<v Speaker 1>My grandfather never took care of his health, like never,

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<v Speaker 1>like he would be like throw dirt on it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm all good whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying your dad was like that. But

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying is your dad keeps saying that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people have like nine lives, like they make jokes, but

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<v Speaker 1>people have like nine lives and stuff. He keeps saying,

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<v Speaker 1>like what he went through was so intense that he

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<v Speaker 1>felt like he went through like nine lives because it

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<v Speaker 1>was just an intensive passing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very possible. Yeah, I can tell you I can

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<v Speaker 2>shed a little light on this as well, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>He I remember I was doing a movie in Vancouver

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<v Speaker 2>and my dad didn't want to bother me, and I

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<v Speaker 2>came back home and he basically told me, look, I

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<v Speaker 2>have cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a type of lung cancer. That's how it started.

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<v Speaker 2>And he always had phenomenal hair, like I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>my dad was like Tom Selleck, magnum p I mustache hair.

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<v Speaker 2>I could never as a kid, I could never mess

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<v Speaker 2>with his hair. It was always a big joke between

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<v Speaker 2>me and I like if I would try to touch

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<v Speaker 2>his hair, be like whoa, whoa. And to this day,

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<v Speaker 2>like I have the same thing with my kids. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like very particular about my hair. And I got that

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<v Speaker 2>from him, for sure. He did have dentures that later

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<v Speaker 2>in his life. Yep, he'd have to take him out

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<v Speaker 2>and they were the old, like cheap looking type.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't look great. Yeah, and he had that for

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know a long long time, at least.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say probably into his fifties or something like that,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe until he passed, which was in his seventies that

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<v Speaker 2>I can remember, and when he got this cancer. My

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<v Speaker 2>dad was always very health conscious though in the sense

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<v Speaker 2>that he tried to find ways to take care of

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<v Speaker 2>everything auto mount his own. He did get through, go

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<v Speaker 2>through chemo, went through all these treatments to try to

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<v Speaker 2>make it go away, but it started taking all these

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<v Speaker 2>these mushrooms that were supposed to be good for cancer

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<v Speaker 2>as well that he got and it developed well twofold.

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<v Speaker 2>He would get these crazy fluid in his lungs, so

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<v Speaker 2>the lungs would fill with fluid constantly and have to

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<v Speaker 2>be him drained constantly, and this went on for months.

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<v Speaker 2>Then with the cancer, the made him lose most of

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<v Speaker 2>his hair, his mustache became, you know, a mess, and

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<v Speaker 2>then by the time he grew it all back, it

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<v Speaker 2>was never the same. It was never the way he

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<v Speaker 2>looked his whole life. So I'm sure that's exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>he's talking about in that regard. And because of some

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<v Speaker 2>of we we believe because some of the self treatment

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<v Speaker 2>he was doing, it attacked us out of immune system.

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<v Speaker 2>We think this is a speculation. But he developed another

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<v Speaker 2>condition called myasthenia gravis and it prevents like the muscles

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<v Speaker 2>in his throat or in his the muscles that would allow.

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<v Speaker 3>You to breathe on your own.

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<v Speaker 2>It affects those things and to breathe smoothly or to swallow,

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<v Speaker 2>so he couldn't really eat and he couldn't breathe very well,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he ended up being on a ventilator. We

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<v Speaker 2>thought we're going to pull him off the ventilator. He

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<v Speaker 2>ended up recovering from it all with the medication, but

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<v Speaker 2>he would go through these bouts where it would kick

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<v Speaker 2>in and he couldn't swallow properly, couldn't use his throat

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<v Speaker 2>muscles properly, couldn't breathe properly. So it was a very

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't a very pleasant ending. And when it did

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<v Speaker 2>kick in, it was everything was fast. It was all

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<v Speaker 2>people could all happen during COVID.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh did it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a very weird time, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Because he was just like trying.

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<v Speaker 1>He was just showing to me like and like there's

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<v Speaker 1>a difference from my perspective, you know, if I'm working

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<v Speaker 1>with law enforcement and stuff with like tragic passing and

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<v Speaker 1>like you can say more of like a peaceful side

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<v Speaker 1>of like someone who I guess, like you know, lived

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<v Speaker 1>a really really long life and natural causes when they're

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<v Speaker 1>ninety ninety five takes them. He was saying how fast

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<v Speaker 1>things happen and how intense it was. So from my

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<v Speaker 1>perspective of him explaining that, I thought that was fairly

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<v Speaker 1>like from my perspective, tragic, like like I didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>it was like because he was saying it was intensified,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a little fast, and it was very uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 1>for him, like because what he's also like what I

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<v Speaker 1>was saying to you before too, he was also saying

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not saying this is how he was, but

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<v Speaker 1>he was like swelling himself up, like he was swelling up,

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<v Speaker 1>and he kept saying, it's like imagine being kind of

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<v Speaker 1>in shape and or thin to whatever that is to

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<v Speaker 1>like and not letting yourself go. But it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>very different body, like completely different. Because he's saying from

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<v Speaker 1>when he was and this is for I think the

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<v Speaker 1>most cases, but for.

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<v Speaker 4>Him, and.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just saying that he like he cared about appearance,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's saying like when he went through things, his

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<v Speaker 1>appearance was not He wasn't like proud of it essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>Like because he's saying to me, he was very proud

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<v Speaker 1>of his appearance. Pretty much his entire life is what

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<v Speaker 1>he's saying. Like he was very and I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>that's a bad thing, He's just accurate.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very confident, good looking guy, and he always

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<v Speaker 2>loved the fact that he looked so young for his age,

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<v Speaker 2>and he carried himself very well and was sort of

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<v Speaker 2>rico suave and kind of yeah, confident, I always say,

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<v Speaker 2>as a cross between Vince Vaughan and and and Tom

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<v Speaker 2>Selleck like personality wise, and looks kind of this energy charisma. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's kind of what he was known for always.

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<v Speaker 2>So when it when he got sick, it was definitely

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<v Speaker 2>a drastic, you know change.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because he's he's just saying, like from his perspect

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<v Speaker 1>if he wants pretty much everyone that was close with

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<v Speaker 1>him to remember when he was and yes for most

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<v Speaker 1>cases too, but from from him how he was healthy

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<v Speaker 1>versus when he got sick, because he does care about

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<v Speaker 1>his appearance, like I'm saying, and that was really important

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<v Speaker 1>to him, and like that's why I'm assuming when he

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<v Speaker 1>was coming through the first things he was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>was his appearance about like his teeth, his hair and stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>because most people don't bring that up in so like

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<v Speaker 1>most people aren't like tapping their teeth and like playing

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<v Speaker 1>with their hair and stuff that like they're just coming

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<v Speaker 1>through to talk about like like very significant things. But

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<v Speaker 1>like because there's a whole other thing too, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting you bring up like he didn't bring up mushrooms.

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<v Speaker 4>He brought up like.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the word, like, holistic medicine is what I like

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<v Speaker 1>to call it. Yeah, because he's smiling and he's going

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<v Speaker 1>like this and like shaking his head like and he's

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<v Speaker 1>just smiling about it because he's saying, there's the chemo

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<v Speaker 1>like you're talking about. Then he didn't bring up, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, mushrooms. He was bringing up like holistic medicine

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<v Speaker 1>like whatever like they do, and he's smiling and he's

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<v Speaker 1>saying that, I guess what you're kind of like what

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<v Speaker 1>you brought up seems to be like kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>what he's showing to me similarly about when you're taking

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<v Speaker 1>holistic and their side effects to a holistic thing, which

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<v Speaker 1>made his last like six tape months or maybe like

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<v Speaker 1>a year like pretty uncomfortable because he's talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>holistic side, and he's going like he's making a joke

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<v Speaker 1>because he's laughing.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like he's like, should have known, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like one of those like listen to the doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>don't listen to whoever. And he's going like this and smiling.

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<v Speaker 1>But he is also someone that is like from my perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>like a traditional sense, but he's very like open minded

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<v Speaker 1>to things.

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<v Speaker 5>I can seem so like he was willing to do anything.

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<v Speaker 4>He's saying.

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<v Speaker 1>He's saying, try everything once, like you know, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>one of those like give everything a shot once, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what he's saying to me, Like he's smiling, say

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<v Speaker 1>he's going like should have known, but try everything once,

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<v Speaker 1>like you can.

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<v Speaker 2>He was in a place of feeling desperate, and I

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<v Speaker 2>remember having conversations with him about it, and he was

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<v Speaker 2>just like, I got to try whatever it takes, something

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<v Speaker 2>to do whatever it is. And he believed for sure

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<v Speaker 2>that it was helping because he would see different results

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe it did in some ways, and maybe this

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<v Speaker 2>was always going to be his path, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's hard to tell. Even from what he's saying.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just saying that like when you go and you're

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<v Speaker 1>thinking something is helpful to something that like makes things

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<v Speaker 1>a little worse. Yeah, it's a little confused, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a little confusing and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So wow, this is great man.

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<v Speaker 2>That was just in a quick you know, a quick

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<v Speaker 2>reading too, but they're definitely very spot on.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk to you, like eventually when you

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<v Speaker 1>have time like privately about like intimate things and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>about your family and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I would love to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe when I come on your podcast, we'll do

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<v Speaker 2>a longer one as well and see what else comes up.

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<v Speaker 2>This was fascinating Again You're you're saying things that you

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't even Wikipedia, you couldn't google. I mean you could,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you could maybe get a name or something,

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<v Speaker 2>but you wouldn't know about the teeth. You wouldn't know

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<v Speaker 2>about the hair, you wouldn't know about a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the things you spoke of. So yeah, again, I I

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<v Speaker 2>stand a believer and you know in this field.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>No, and and listen is great.

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<v Speaker 2>Great talking with you really a privilege to hear your

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<v Speaker 2>story and and what it is that you've been doing

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<v Speaker 2>to help so many people in law enforcement and just personally,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because it is when the passing of a

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<v Speaker 2>loved one is very challenging. It was very hard on me,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know it still is. But when you feel

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<v Speaker 2>like there is a way to connect with somebody uh

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<v Speaker 2>and give you some kind of closure, it's it's priceless,

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<v Speaker 2>it really is. So thank you, thank you for being

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<v Speaker 2>on the podcast, for joining me. I wish my wife

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<v Speaker 2>could have been here. She would have loved it. She's

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<v Speaker 2>the a the Hoole part of our podcast. So she's

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<v Speaker 2>doing a movie in Puerto Rico right now. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>rolling solo on the podcast. But I can't wait for

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<v Speaker 2>everybody to check out your podcast, which I know just

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<v Speaker 2>launched again. Just going to repeat that connect with Jonathan

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<v Speaker 2>Mark which just launched. Where can it working with this

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere you get podcasts, I'm assuming.

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<v Speaker 4>Writer anywhere you get podcasts, So.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody be sure to check it out. And I will

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<v Speaker 2>also be on Jonathan's podcast and we will dive into

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<v Speaker 2>some more uh fun topics for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you man than for having me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thank you. I appreciate your time.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you all right, take care.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, Well there you have it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you people there that I could there's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder myself, Okay, could he wikipedia a name? For sure,

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<v Speaker 2>you can do that. But he was still saying things

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<v Speaker 2>that he couldn't have possibly known. It's not anywhere on

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<v Speaker 2>the internet. How my father passed what he passed from

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<v Speaker 2>what it was like, if it was easy or in

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<v Speaker 2>his sleep or any of that. I had a feeling

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<v Speaker 2>if somebody was gonna come through, it'd be my dad.

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<v Speaker 2>I really believe that my dad has a lot to say,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's such a true story that things with his hair,

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<v Speaker 2>his teeth, his appearance, those are all spot on, and

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<v Speaker 2>even the way he spoke about my mom. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fully a believer. This is unbelievable. Thank you again

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<v Speaker 2>Jonathan for stopping in. He's at Ado and everyone. I

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<v Speaker 2>hope you enjoyed this podcast. Until next time.

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<v Speaker 4>Bye,