1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: There you go, testing one to three, four or five. 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 1: All right, there we go three, two and one. O 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: t A number nine in the books. The third week 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: of O t A s complete. It's another media round table. 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: I'm J. P. Shadick and our special guests today from 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: my left to my right. You'll have to just visualize this. 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: We get it. It's a podcast. Mike Do, Rocko ESP 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: and I'm Mike. Thanks for thanks for coming on. It's awesome, 9 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: good to good to have you in the air conditioning. Yeah, 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: there's no kidding. Mia O'Brien from First Coast News, fairly 11 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: new to the beat me and well, yes, thank you. 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: Second tier. Yeah, well I kind of joined in a 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: little late last year. Second year. Fairly new though compared 14 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 1: to guys. You know, we got a good mix at 15 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: this round tib we Do and John Reid from the 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: Florida Times Union. John, how are you, sir? Glad to 17 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: be here, Thanks for coming in the confines of the 18 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: studio and air condition but friendly cold time finds of 19 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: the Jaguars radio studios. Let's get to some topics, shall we. 20 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: Let's start. Let's start in the running back room. I 21 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: think He's Carline had an article this week. I don't 22 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: know if you all read it, connectl Uh kind of 23 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: getting on for net about not being here the last 24 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: few last week or so really of O T S 25 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: and the reasons why he should be here. First off, 26 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: are you all on the whole voluntarious mandatory thing? John? 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? You know it's a 28 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: volunteery period. Are you kind of on the guys that 29 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: do they need to be here? Yeah? I'm on a 30 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: guy like Lenark for that and needs to be here 31 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: because I feel that he has didn't have the season 32 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: that he wanted, didn't have a season that was aspected 33 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: of him. And when you come in off a year 34 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: the second year after he you know, he performed well 35 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: the rookie season, and then come back that second year 36 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: and don't put up the numbers and eight games missed, 37 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: and then you you you you see what he says. 38 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: He says he's being rededicated, going to why on men 39 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: and he's lifting weights and doing all those kind of things. 40 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: Then you gotta I feel, in my own opinion, I 41 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: just feel that he has to to maintain that. You know, 42 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: I think he's got he got a point to prove. 43 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: I mean, he's got to prove himself again. He's I mean, 44 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: I know he's a star. I mean, I'll covered this 45 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: kid when he was in Louisiana and what he did 46 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: in high school don't matter now, oh L s U. 47 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: And it almost like he's restarting his career. And when 48 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: you're under the gun and when you have to prove 49 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: yourself and you gotta go out and redefine who you 50 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: are as a football player, then you don't make any excuses. 51 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: You go with his five practice attending practices O T 52 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: A S. Then it doesn't it doesn't hurt. But I 53 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: think he definitely needs to be that guy to be 54 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: the first one running out out on the drills, first 55 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: guy out there on the practice field, making all of 56 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: those practices. And I think it shows um those coaches 57 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: his dedication. And I when I think when he missed 58 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: that was the last five or six, I think it 59 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 1: shows what is his commitment. And I'm sure the Jaguars 60 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: or Leonard for Nett didn't want to have to answer 61 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: those questions. But when you lead the when you open 62 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: up the door and and those kind of things are 63 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: still out there, then he didn't do anything to to 64 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: put it to bed. Mandatory is next week. I mean, 65 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: you would think he would be around for next week, right. 66 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: He's been in touch with the coaching yes, and not 67 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: only has he been in touch with the coaches. And 68 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: this is where I kind of was stunned that he, 69 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: after being committed to Wyoming to hear showing up to 70 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: the first few o t a s more over telling 71 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: us when he spoke to the media last week that 72 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: he and Nick Foles have been working together, studying the 73 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: playbook together, and that not only were they working together, 74 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: but that Leonard had initiated those meetings. That said to 75 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: me that this guy, you know, he is trying to 76 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: turn a corner. And then he promptly didn't show up 77 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: to the next five practices. Uh. And so that's where 78 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: I just want to know what happened. We don't know, 79 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: but if he's in communication with you know, the coaching staff, 80 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: and I guess that's okay. But to your point of 81 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: whether voluntary is mandatory, I think Callias said it best 82 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: on Monday, which is the people that need to be 83 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: here are here. But as John said, I think Leonard 84 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: is one of those people that needs to be there 85 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: and he's not rock. Where are yous. I think he 86 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: was the one guy on this roster that had other 87 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: than Folds. Obviously that had to be at every single 88 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: one of them for all the reasons John mentioned, but 89 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: also look at the end of the season last year, 90 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: he was in the doghouse and they've they've taken away 91 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: his guaranteed money in his contract. He got yelled at 92 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: by Tom Coughlin for the way he acted on the sideline. 93 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: There there were some questions about his maturity. There are 94 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: questions about his commitment. There questions about his um fitness 95 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: level and his conditioning. There's questions about whether football is 96 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: important to him. And look this this critical year from 97 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: lettern four, Nette and I thought when they challenged him 98 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: at the end of last year and said, you've got 99 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: to be better. You've got to be the player we drafted. 100 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: You have got to turn your life around, essentially your 101 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: football life around, and make this the priority and be 102 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: a true pro. I thought he had to be at 103 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: every single one of those to really kind of prove that. Now. 104 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: I asked Doug Moron about it, and he said, look, 105 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: you know, when he's been here, he's done everything we've asked, 106 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: which is a really, really good sign. But I just 107 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: thought for Leonard he needed to be at all of 108 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: these to kind of prove to them that he had 109 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: kind of turned a corner on that stuff. But as 110 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: a general rule, I'm like, you know what, They're voluntary. 111 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: If you don't want to be here, I don't have 112 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: a problem with it. Like John Os always tells the 113 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: story ed and James told him one time, I may 114 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: have going to Miami two years, but I know the 115 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: definition of volunteery how it works. Um, John, you spoke 116 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: with Terry Robiscuity today after practice and a new face 117 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: and that coaching staff. He's in the running backs room again, 118 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: a guy who's been through a lot, obviously throughout his 119 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: career is a long career in the NFL. What kind 120 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: of influence can he have on Leonard? And do you 121 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: buy that connection Louisiana connection and all that and his 122 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: rebiscis history and all that. Well, if I was Leonard, 123 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: I would make it with my point to learn as 124 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: much as I can from a guy like like like 125 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: like like Ribiscuit, because he's been he's been through the 126 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: struggles that a lot of us don't know even can't imagine, 127 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: you know, and just I mean you go back. He's 128 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: a legend in Louisiana as a high school star. This uh, 129 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: he's only like I think it's the six black player 130 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: to ever played at LSU, and and just the history 131 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: and his knowledge and even if you just look back 132 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: on his NFL career, I mean it not aut of 133 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: assistance or head coaches. Who's been still in his game 134 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: since nineteen two. I mean that's that's that's like that question. 135 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: But I just think he shares a lot. I think 136 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: he's got a lot of knowledge. I think I think 137 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: even off the field, you can learn things from him. 138 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: I think he's got a perspective that he's been through 139 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: a lot of the ordeals. I don't know what you 140 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: might want to call him, but I just think a 141 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: guy who's been around and and experienced a whole different things. 142 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: When he came up and said that Al Davis used 143 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: to take them to the side, and and they want 144 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: to teach him everything about the NFL, I mean those 145 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: are things that you can't walk up to a lot 146 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: of people in the NFL and they can share those experiences. 147 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: So I would be all of the running backs in 148 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,239 Speaker 1: that running back room, I think you have to tap 149 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: into somebody that has that vast knowledge and um and 150 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: learn as much as you can. And I think that's 151 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: what he's there for. Look forward to your conversation and 152 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: you have a story coming up in the next few 153 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: days with that conversation with Terry Robisky. Let's move along 154 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: in office, shall we. There's a lot of focus on 155 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: the receivers. You know, new quarterback, offensive line, hopefully he's 156 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: gonna be healthy at camp. The receiving corps. I mean, 157 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: you had some guys that underperformed last year or were 158 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: hurt and out or filling the blank that the reason 159 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: why somebody didn't go out there and play well. But 160 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: you've got some guys back, you got some new faces there. 161 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: Where's your confidence level right now? In was this June 162 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: six on the receiver corps way higher than it was 163 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: when O. T. A. S began. And I think we've 164 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: talked about this before, but I I've felt like the 165 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: Jaguars personnel people, you know, coaching, that they had a 166 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: much higher opinion of the receiver group than I think 167 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: most people outside the building did, which is you know, 168 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: not a surprise, to be honest with you, but you know, 169 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: I've been really impressed with that I've seen from d 170 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: J Chark. He's caught everything. Keelan Cole, you dropped a 171 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: kick off today, But other than that, he's been really 172 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: really good. Yes, we did, and I'm sure people in 173 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 1: Arlington in the north side heard as well from Jod, 174 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: But I mean, he's caught everything. And you know Chris Conley, 175 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me if Chris Conney ends up leading 176 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: this team and catches um. But I mean, I think 177 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: they've been really really good. And this is the time 178 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: you kind of expect that they should be good because 179 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: obviously there's no contact. There's not you know how it 180 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 1: goes with dbs and stuff and and and Jaylen's not 181 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: here and a J boy A has been out for 182 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: over a week. But you want to see those guys 183 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: make plays and dominate, and they have. In my opinion, 184 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: in that group is a little bit higher. I think 185 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: a large part of that is due to folds. I 186 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: always I thought folds would make them better. Now the 187 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: receivers and you know, I love Blake, but now the 188 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: receivers when they come out of their break, they know, 189 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: um where the ball is going to be. They don't 190 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: have to turn around. It's gonna be right where it's 191 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: supposed to be instead of feet behind up and stuff 192 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: like that. So I think it's been to me, it's 193 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: been the most impressive position group, and it's been the 194 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: thing that's impressed me the most. In so Chris Conley 195 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 1: thing is interesting me because we didn't really know. It 196 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: wasn't even heralded offseas an acquisition from the Chiefs, friends 197 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: with Nick Foles, from his time for a minute together whatever. 198 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: But for the first three weeks out of here, that's 199 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: quite a connection, especially on the deep balls down the field. 200 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: And I would like to extend my empathy to Chris Connley. 201 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: You could tell, much like myself having moved here from 202 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: the northern country. The first week he was getting used 203 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: to the heat. Some of my fellow media members the 204 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: first day we're all look at him eyes he might 205 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: retire by tomorrow, And honestly, I was like, you have 206 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: to give him a day. He is. This is the 207 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: first time this guy is played in the heat. I know, 208 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: obviously he played in the South in college, but you know, 209 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: this is the first time this guy has played in 210 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: the Northern Florida heat save one or two games. Um, 211 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: you know, So for this guy to really have to 212 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: experience that, you know it's going to take some time, 213 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: but it really only took what one or two days. 214 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: Within one or two days. By the end of the 215 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: first week, he looked like he was back in a stride, 216 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: which somebody said to me today, you never get used 217 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: to the heat. You just have to endure it um. 218 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: And so that's good advice from my self and Chris, 219 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: and I think he's really taken that to heart, because, 220 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: like you said, I mean, even if it's not you know, 221 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: some of these spectacular sixty yard catches we're seeing Kielan 222 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: or DJ Shark making, which hey, they're holding onto him too, 223 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: which is also great to see, especially for second year 224 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: pro in DJ Chark. But I think with Conley, even 225 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: if it is that slot receiver, he hasn't I haven't 226 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: seen him drop that much. And this is a team 227 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: that led the league in drops last year. So if 228 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: nothing else, if they can improve in that category, that 229 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: could help you win at least one or two ball games. 230 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: John Kilan, Keena mccartell the other day, I said, killing 231 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: Cole in the brain. Keenan McCarry all the other day 232 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: called Markisley is Alpha dog in that room. We haven't 233 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: seen Markisley this offseason. He seems confident he'll be back 234 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: at some point in camp. He wants to be ready 235 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: for a week one that's a major injury. But we 236 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: all know markiss and his work ethic and the way 237 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: he goes about his business. Where are you on Marquis 238 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: Do you are you confident he could be back? What 239 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: do you What did you hear from those guys this 240 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: week that you like? Well, what I like is when 241 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: you see him working on the side field, you don't 242 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: see any brace. You see him running with with speed, 243 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: and I think he's determined. I mean, you know, I mean, 244 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: I think determination has a lot to do with rehab 245 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: and and when you when you look at him, he's 246 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: you know, he's determined that he's gonna be back down 247 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: at some point in training camp and he makes you 248 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: believe that. And I think he understands that this receivers 249 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: group as a I think they've improved tremendously with with 250 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: with that group. And when he's the alpha dog is 251 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: meaning that he's the he's the leader of the group, 252 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:40,599 Speaker 1: and the leader of the group don't want to be 253 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: at the bottom end of the group. So he's gonna 254 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: compete in the John Reid from the Florida Times Union 255 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: like the Rocket. Esp O'Brien from First Coach News. Let's 256 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: get some final thoughts here on the Defense'll sloop it around. 257 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: You know, we all know that the starting names on 258 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: this defensive line. I mean Coles, Campbell, Marshall, darry As 259 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 1: the first round pick and a great player obviously. Uh 260 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: then you have now back to back first round picks 261 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: on the defensive line to join those guys, I believe 262 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: a bunch of guys out of course, you can got 263 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: way all this. We all know the front line names. 264 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: Some of these they like to come in waves though 265 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: they want to have a different group of guys coming 266 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: in here. I mean that's a question mark right now 267 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: is how is that second group gonna look? And they 268 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: won't ever call it a second group. I get that. 269 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: I like, for example, who's the backup at big end 270 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: right now? You know dwant Smoot made some plays today. 271 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: It was encouraging to see he was working on drops 272 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: um and getting out to the flat for a while 273 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: with Todd Wash and then the first time he saw 274 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: that in eleven on eleven. After that he was in 275 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: the right spot, made to play. It was good to see. 276 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: It's a big question. We're not going to know for 277 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: sure with these offensive a defensive line, but obviously until 278 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: the pads come on. But if if I were filling 279 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: out the depth chart now, I probably would have smooth there. 280 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: I know they're working Taven Brian there some a little 281 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: bit as well. I don't think that's a good idea. 282 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: I think they should just put him at exactly I mean, 283 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: we saw it last year, you guys. He he struggled 284 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: whole year then when they played him mainly at three 285 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: tech because when he played his best. So, I mean 286 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: there's there's there's a lot of depth questions on this defense, 287 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: and we'll know more obviously when Camp rolls around. But 288 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: that to me is one of the two or three 289 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: biggest questions. What can they have behind plays? Yeah? That 290 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: that the Taven Bryan thinks interesting. Can he come along 291 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: in year two? He didn't quite make the impact that 292 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people think of first round pick should 293 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: make and even as a rookie in this team, um, 294 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: where are you at on Taven Man? So I spoke 295 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: with Quincy Williams with Ben Murphy also first goes news 296 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: after practice, and I liked the one line that Quincy 297 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: have when we asked him about how, you know, how 298 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: different is it going from college to the pros, and 299 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: he said, you feel like you're in a bee hive. 300 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: They spiked the ball and it's just going like this 301 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: and you're looking left, right, left, right, And I think 302 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: that's how Tavin Bryant was as a rookie. And not 303 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: only was he in the bee hive, but you're also 304 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: throwing two assignments at him, Whereas you know, as a 305 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: rookie it's already hard enough to learn one role. Now 306 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: he has to learn too, And so I think that 307 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: you know that put him in an unfair advantage because 308 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: no one really knew what position he was, where he fit, 309 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: and now we're still kind of in that spot here. 310 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: So I agree with the Rock. I think you just 311 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: put him at in the middle and you say, learn 312 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: as much as you can from Marcel Darius, Abril Jones, 313 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: figure it out, and hopefully, you know that sets them 314 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: up for year three. Because as many people have alluded 315 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: to me, I know I wasn't here during the two 316 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: thousand eighteen draft, but a lot of people felt that 317 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: that was a pick for two three years down the line, 318 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: while we're coming up on two years. So there needs 319 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: to be something shown. Some good football players you listed 320 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: there to final thought on defense, you're John Unique and 321 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: got Way is not here. The word is he wants 322 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: a new contract and all this um. Do you think 323 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: they pay him beforehand before the season? Do they wait 324 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: until this season is going to see how the alan 325 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: the draft pick comes along. There's some different ways to 326 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: go about to sink for the Jackson. I feel it 327 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: once it gets the training camp, might as well just 328 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: wait till the end of the season because when the 329 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: negotiations stopped becoming a distraction. So to me personally, from 330 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: what I've seen and what this guy can do, I'm 331 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: trying to figure out why what's the hold up? Pretty 332 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: pretty much for me, I think he's I think he's 333 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: done everything. But also when you draft someone to play 334 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: his position, that might change the way they might view him. 335 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: But ya Nique is a is a ball player, and 336 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: I think when you go out and get the sacks 337 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: that he's done since to seven teams since I've been 338 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: covering the team, I think you have to show your 339 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: worth by your ability and not talk about it, and 340 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: I think he's done that. I don't think that he's 341 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: been on any air waves and saying anything about a contract. 342 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: But now that his contract is up, I think you 343 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: have to you know, you you you get paid for production. 344 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: It's a production base league, and he's produced. I think 345 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: he's I don't see what he has not done to 346 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: warrant getting an extension. But you know, I'm a sports 347 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: right and I have not a negotiating Okay, we'll end 348 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: with that mandatory minicamp coming up next week. Joe Ramsey 349 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: is gonna be the story at least are and I 350 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: know that about you guys, and then Leonard or maybe 351 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: one of those guys doesn't come and there's some fines 352 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: going someone to risk it here to make a point. 353 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: Someone might risk it. Thank you guys for coming in. 354 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: Mike Rocko, ESPN, good to see you, Thank you O'Brien, 355 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: First Coast News, Thank you man, Thank you, Sir John Hey, 356 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: good to have you, John Reid, First Florida Times Union. 357 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: Great to see you two, Sir, diod to be it, 358 00:17:57,720 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for being having me on. We'll see you next week.