1 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature production of iHeartRadio. I'm your host 2 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology and evolutionary biology, 3 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 1: and today on the show Fat Babies, we're talking about 4 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: some of the biggest babies around, everyone's favorite Internet hippo 5 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: Moo Dang, as well as the enormous, gargantuan, fluffy and 6 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: incredible baby king penguin Pasto. I am so excited to 7 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: talk about these I really wanted to sort of have 8 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 1: a full discussion about mood Dang, the internet sensation and 9 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: what is she, how does she function, why is she 10 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: and also the interesting conversation about how we treat animal celebrities. 11 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: Joining me today to talk about these enormous babies is 12 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: writer for one nine hundred, Hot Dog, the comedy website, 13 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: and of the horror novella Healthy Choices, Lydia bug. Hi. 14 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. 15 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: You actually suggested this topic to me because you mentioned Pesto, 16 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: the incredible baby king penguin, who is just apparently growing 17 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: bigger and bigger. He's not going to stop until essentially 18 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: he is the size of a building. Yeah. 19 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: I told my husband it's like me having a baby, 20 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: and it being six feet tall. Yes, that's what it 21 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 2: reminds me of. 22 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: It's wild, it's very wild. So, but first, I do 23 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: want to talk about Moodang. You are familiar with Moodang, 24 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: I would presume, Oh, my. 25 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 2: Gosh, yes, obviously I'm obsessed with all of the fat 26 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: baby animals. There's a TikTok talker who does the Knights 27 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: of the rotund Table, which is all of the fat 28 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: baby animals that are at Zeus. And uh yeah, Moodang 29 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 2: is like the King Arthur of the Knights of the 30 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: Road Hunt. 31 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: Yes, she's incredible, So let's talk about her first. So Mooding, 32 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: it's the internet's favorite juvenile pigmy hippo. Pigmy hippos hail 33 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: from West Africa. Let's talk about this species a little 34 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: bit before we talk about mood Dan. Specifically, they are 35 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: one of two living species within the hippo family. The 36 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: other is the common hippo, which is much larger. That's 37 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: the hippo we know in love. That's the one that 38 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 1: does the ballet in Fantasia. They are quite big now. 39 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: Adult pigmy hippos grow to be around four hundred to 40 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: six hundred pounds, which is one hundred and eighty to 41 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy five kilograms, which sounds like a 42 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: lot maybe until you realize that common hippos average over 43 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: three thousand pounds. Oh my god, one five hundred kilograms. 44 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 2: Right, dainty. 45 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: Pygmy hippos are tiny compared to common hippos. Like the 46 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: largest kind of individual common hippos can weigh in to 47 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: be over five thousand pounds or over two thousan two 48 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: hundred kilograms, so that compared to say, amax size of 49 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 1: six hundred pounds. Pygmy hippos are little. You know, they're 50 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: pigmy hippos and they're little. They're the Chihuahuas of the 51 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: hippo world. 52 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 2: Did we like breathe them like teacup chuahuas to be 53 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: tiny or they're just like. 54 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: Fortunately, no, they are just naturally like that. 55 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: Because if someone wants a house hippo, that's really not good. 56 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably. I love the idea of a little 57 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: lap hippo, but it's not gonna ever happen ethically. So, 58 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: pigmy hippos only grow to be a little over three 59 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: feet tall about a meter, so yeah, they are truly 60 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: the cute little cousins of common hippos. They are similar 61 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: in some ways to the larger hippos. They are semi aquatic, 62 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: although they are a lot more terrestrial than common hippos. 63 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: They spend more time on land. They're also less aggressive 64 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: than common hippos. They're a lot more shy. 65 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: Really because Moodang is spicy. 66 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: Mood Dang is very sassy, but contrary, she's not murderous. 67 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: I would say, like pygmy hippos are sassy. They will 68 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: go after you if they feel you are, you know, 69 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 1: bringing down the mood harshing their mellow, but they won't 70 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: kill you. I can't. I couldn't find a case of 71 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: a pygmy hippo over killing anyone, whereas common hippos regularly 72 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: kill people. They're very dangerous, they are very aggressive. 73 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 2: I feel like I heard once they were like one 74 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 2: of the most dangerous animals on Earth. Is that true? 75 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: They're They're not the like one of the most dangerous 76 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: animals on earth. They are far more dangerous than say, 77 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: sharks in terms of killing people. That's crazy. The most 78 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: dangerous animals on Earth are mosquitoes, dogs, and snakes, and 79 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: in descending order of badness, I think or no, I'm 80 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: not anyways, regardless, those are the three ones that cause 81 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: the most human deaths of sort of animals, right, Like, 82 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: obviously bacteria and pathogens can cause more death. 83 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: That makes sense because those are prolific animals. 84 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so. And it's also like with mosquitos, it's 85 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: unintentional they carry disease. Dogs, it's rabies, uh and in 86 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: a lot of countries where there is not as much 87 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: of a successful campaign against rabies. And then snakes obviously 88 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: with their venom they actually can cause a good number 89 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: of human deaths. But but you know, like common hippos 90 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: are up there, they are more dangerous than sharks, but 91 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: they but pygmy hippos not so much. They are not 92 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: that aggressive. They will fight back, as we know from Moodang, 93 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: who is a spicy little sausage. So the pigmy hippos 94 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:15,799 Speaker 1: are more shy than common hippos. They form smaller social groups, 95 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: usually family units like a mother and the calves. They 96 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: avoid confrontation with other pigmy hippos. They don't really fight 97 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: so much, and they like to rest in the river 98 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: during the day and then they come out at dusk 99 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: to feed. And so you know they are overall a 100 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: bit more shy, a bit more introverted, a bit more chill. 101 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: And so the way I interpret mood Dang's behavior is 102 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: that she's annoyed at all the attention and just wants 103 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: to be left alone. 104 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: I get it, relatable. I just want to chill in 105 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: a river and come out at night to feed. Like, yeah, 106 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: that sounds like the life. 107 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: If like, I could just bite someone's leg every time 108 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: I feel socially exhausted, my life would be so much 109 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: more simple. 110 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why we love Mudang. She's the people's pigmy hippo. 111 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 2: We're all like, I get it. 112 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've said this. I think I've said this before 113 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: on this show. But like, I had a plumbing disaster 114 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: that a few weeks ago, just as Moudang was spiking 115 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: in popularity. And what happened was I filled my sink 116 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: up with dirty dishwater. Well not intentionally, My sink was clogged. 117 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: There was a clog deep down somewhere and I I 118 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: was filled with dirty dishwater. So me smart took out 119 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: the u trap of the sink and I did put 120 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: a bucket under there, but it was a small bucket, 121 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: not enough bucket, and also the water came out really 122 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: fast because it was under pressure, and I did get 123 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: blasted with dirty dishwater. The bucket overflowed and I flooded 124 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: our kitchen and I was wet and mad. And when 125 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: I saw Moodang, I was like, well, sister, I get it, 126 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,239 Speaker 1: but you do look. 127 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: Like me the most relatable in that moment. 128 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, wet and mad? Yeah, uh so, yes she is. 129 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: I think that the fury of the little hippo is 130 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: very relatable. 131 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: And she's just always doing normal things and the zookeepers 132 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: are like bothering her. Like I saw one where she 133 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: was sitting in her mother's food bowl, which genius. Like 134 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 2: if I were tiny and could fit into a food bowl, 135 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: I would sit in it and eat like that sounds great, 136 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: And her mom was trying to eat like around her. Yeah, 137 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: zookeepers were like, get out of that food bowl, and 138 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: then she was like, no, I'm gonna bite you. 139 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, very reasonable, she should. I used to it when I 140 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: was a kid. I would like to take cereal into 141 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: the bath, and sometimes the cereal would fall into the 142 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: bath and I thought, huh, I'm basically swimming in a 143 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: bowl of cereal. Because my cereal is now my bathwater. 144 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: Oh my god. I love eating in the bathtub, Like 145 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 2: I feel like that's good. It's such a hick thing 146 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 2: to do, but I love it. 147 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: I had a setup where in my parents' bathroom, if 148 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: I opened the door, I could like turn on the 149 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: TV from the other room and incredible, watch the TV 150 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: from the bath and take a bubble bath and then 151 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: eat eat fruity pebbles in the bubble bath. And it 152 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: was sort of the best thing that's ever happened in 153 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: my life. I can't say anything has ever topped that. Yeah. 154 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 2: No, Like at my old house, I had a jet 155 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: bathtub and I had enough space to put my laptop 156 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: at the edge of the tub, and I was willing 157 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: to like live dangerously and do that. I remember at 158 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: Christmas once Bridgerton had just come out and I was 159 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 2: like in the bathtub watching Bridgerton. I had some kind 160 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 2: I think, like a bottle of sparkling wine and some cheese. 161 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 2: This is incredible. 162 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: I mean, this is the thing. Like, yes, mood dang 163 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: is highly relatable. We like to swim around in our 164 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: in some water, have food out the ready, and we 165 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: don't want people to interrupt our good times. One cute 166 00:09:55,800 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: habit that pigmy hippos share with common hippos that they 167 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: like to do poop fan So they will poop vigorously 168 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: and then helicopter their tail and just spread the dung around. 169 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: And it's not that they like whole papers have been 170 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: written about exactly what they're trying to achieve with this, 171 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: like it's basically thought to be marking sort of trails 172 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: or territories, but it is just it's, you know, it's 173 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: a pooh tornado that they like to produce. 174 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 2: That's great. I think I've seen videos of hippos and 175 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: zoos doing that and people being like horrified. 176 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 1: That's It's just a normal behavior for them. 177 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 2: I love it, and they know. I'm sure that people like, hey, 178 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 2: people think this is terrifying. I'm gonna do it, yes, 179 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 2: like everybody check this out. All the chorists are like. 180 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god, no, yeah, they probably they probably get 181 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: a kick out of it. They do sometimes do it 182 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: like at each other in the wild, not necessarily pigmy 183 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: hippos but common hippos, So there can be some poop 184 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: poop fan aggression going on. So I wouldn't be surprised 185 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: if sometimes it is used towards visitors to be like, hey, 186 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: get out of here. 187 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: Is poop fan the scientific name? 188 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: You know, it's not not scientific. So that is the 189 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: background on pygmy hippos. Let's talk a little bit more 190 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: about Moodang specifically. She was born in July of this year, 191 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. She's a juvenile pygmy hippo living at 192 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: kau Ko Open Zoo in Thailand. Her antics are looking 193 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: perpetually annoyed and soaked in water. She has two siblings, 194 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 1: Nadette and Mutuan, though like the Baldwin brothers, they are 195 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: not as famous. So and my favorite thing about her 196 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: is that her name Moodang roughly translates to bouncy pig. 197 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: Oh, that's so cute. 198 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: She really is that she is a bouncy pig. Yeah, 199 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: she looks like an overstuffed cushion. I love her. Her 200 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 1: popularity actually doubled the number of visitors to the zoo, 201 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: which can in some ways be good, right, but in 202 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: other ways it's proved to be a challenge. Some of 203 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: these visitors took it upon themselves to try to harass 204 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: Moodang by throwing water or objects at her. I believe 205 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: that all of these visitors should be lined up and 206 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: receive a bite from Mudang, like just be like, all right, 207 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: you did this, you get bitten. 208 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, you receive if. 209 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: You if you violate Moodang's boundaries, you should be willing 210 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: to receive. Moudang's retribution is Mike. 211 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 2: I can't I can't even imagine what goes through a 212 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 2: person's head that makes them want to throw something, I mean, 213 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 2: at any animal, but especially at the cutest animal on friggin' Earth. 214 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're trying to think because they're trying to provoke 215 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: a reaction, probably to get like a photo or a 216 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: video for social media, that would be my guess. But 217 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: the zoo has responded, I mean by definitely scolding people, 218 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: but also they become more protective of her and they 219 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: only allow visitors like five minutes to gaze upon MoU 220 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: Dang other because like, she's just become so wildly popular 221 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: and they've got to protect her. And you know, but 222 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: I think it's a very interesting example of how weird 223 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: animal celebrity gets. You know. I love this little hippo, 224 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: I get it, she's adorable. 225 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:31,560 Speaker 2: But it's also a. 226 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 1: Little concerning sometimes because she is a wild animal. She's 227 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: not gonna appreciate or like the excess attention that she's 228 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: actually getting like in real life. 229 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have this exact same like worry about because 230 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 2: zoos know that these little animals are huge money makers 231 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: now ever since like Fiona, I think was the first 232 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: big celebrity hippo, and I wonder if they're being ethical 233 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: about how many babies they're having because of how much 234 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 2: money they can bring into the zoo. Like, I had 235 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 2: lots of questions about this. It's because I love it, 236 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: But I'm like, am I is it bad that I 237 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 2: love this so much? 238 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: You know, it's a good question. I don't have it 239 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: as simple answer for this. You know, there's a lot 240 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: of really good zoos that do a lot of good 241 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: conservation work. I think that overall zoos can be a 242 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: positive thing both in terms of conservation, rehabilitation, education, research. 243 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: All of these things can make zoos actually I think 244 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: a net benefit for the for animals, for the environment. 245 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: But you know, I think that in cases like this 246 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: it is a definite gray area because on one hand, 247 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: uh pigmy hippos are endangered and Moodang has now brought 248 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: a huge amount of attention to pygmy hippos. Now everybody 249 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: knows what they are. They see her, they find her 250 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: really key. And so if you tell them, like, look 251 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: this type of hippo, like they're endangered, people make care more. 252 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: Right due to her fame and her popularity. On the 253 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: other hand, it's an we do kind of like it 254 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: concerns me obviously the people who throw stuff at the 255 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: at her should just be fired off into the sun. 256 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: But like it's also now that she gets so many visitors, 257 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: I wonder how much that stresses her out right, because 258 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: like I said, they're basically crepuscular, borderline nocturnal, like they 259 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: they you know, usually rest in rivers during the day 260 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: and then at night is when they like at dusk 261 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: is when they come out to feed. So be getting 262 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: that much attention during the day, I wonder how much 263 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: that affects her stress and her health, right, Like, I 264 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: just hope that you know, she is being protected so 265 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: that she can stay moisturized in the lane. 266 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I was psyched to hear that they took 267 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: her off display except for five minutes a day, because 268 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: if you're having if that's like you know, if they're 269 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 2: having these issues. That's what needs to be done obviously, 270 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 2: is to like mainly have her be protected and doing 271 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 2: her own thing, and then every once in a while 272 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 2: people can look upon her like. 273 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, I think it might be five minutes of visitor. 274 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: Let me check on that, visitors. 275 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: I remember reading about that. 276 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: Oh no, it's good, you're right. It's like for only 277 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: five minutes. Visitors could see mooding for only five minutes 278 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: on Saturdays and Sundays. I think it might be on 279 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: Saturdays and Sundays, each visitor, like you know, like you're 280 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: in a line and basically you're ushered forward, so you 281 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: only get about five minutes to look at her. But 282 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: it is it is limited to Saturdays and Sundays. 283 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 2: Okay, that's not so bad, like, you know, because that 284 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 2: keeps the crowds smaller too, so she's not dealing with 285 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: Like when I went to see Fiona, there was like, 286 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: you know, sixty people like pressed to the glass. 287 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: Yeah sure, sure. 288 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 2: It's less stressful to have two people at a time 289 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 2: kind of staring at you. 290 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, uh yeah, yeah. I think it is really 291 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: important to kind of balance the I mean, of course, 292 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: I don't blame anyone for wanting to see her in person. 293 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: I'd love to see her in person. Who wouldn't an 294 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: adorable little hippo. That's not necessarily the problem. It's that 295 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,959 Speaker 1: we do need to balance sort of the fun of 296 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: it all, like, which is like, you know, I mean 297 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: having fun internet stuff about her. There's no harm in 298 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: that that I can really see. But yeah, just making 299 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: sure that doesn't bleed over into you know, I don't 300 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: want people thinking like that she's basically like a pet 301 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: or a toy or you know, that she's anything other 302 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: than a wild animal who isn't a zoo obviously, but 303 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: that deserves respect and deserves to be treat, you know, 304 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: not treated like a form of entertainment, but rather as 305 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: a living creature. 306 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want the zoo to like stage mom 307 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 2: mood day, you know. 308 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: Now, I'm just thinking about those hippos and Fantasia, the 309 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: ballet hippos, and like, yeah, they had to go through 310 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 1: dance moms. 311 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want Mudang to go through what Jojo 312 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 2: Siba went through. 313 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, oh man, no ah, Yeah, that's that's 314 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: just Moodang in a sparkly bikini drinking to Pila. I'm 315 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: not gonna end up well, all right, well we're gonna 316 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: take a quick break, and then, much to Lydia's delight, 317 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about Pesto the Penguin. 318 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 2: I've been dying to talk to anyone about Pasto that 319 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 2: will listen, So. 320 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: All right, so we are back, and Lendy, you actually 321 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: suggested this one to me. This is about Pesto the penguin. 322 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: What drew you towards this little penguin or probably shouldn't 323 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: say little penguin? 324 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 2: No, thank you for asking. So I think what's so 325 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: special about Pesto is the fact that a lot of 326 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 2: big baby animals just look like a slightly smaller version 327 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 2: of that animal. So if they're born really big, you 328 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 2: can't really tell how big they are. But the fact 329 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: that Pesto has his like penguins have that fuzz when 330 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 2: they're born, and then they get their like oily slicker feathers, 331 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: you can really tell, like, this is a baby, and 332 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 2: it looks like a baby, but it's taller than all 333 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 2: of the adults. So it makes me picture, like I said, 334 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 2: a six foot tall, like two year old, yeah, walking 335 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 2: around a house, and how much destruction that would bring. 336 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 2: And it makes me like smile and laugh every single time. 337 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 2: And I have heard like an origin story for Pesto 338 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 2: that is very cute, but I don't know if it's true, 339 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,239 Speaker 2: and I don't know if you know it's true. But 340 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 2: do you do you want me to tell you what 341 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: it is? 342 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:40,719 Speaker 1: Yeah? Tell me? 343 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: I okay, all right. I heard that his dad was 344 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,719 Speaker 2: like one of the biggest king penguins ever in Captivity, 345 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 2: and he was very old and he passed away either 346 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 2: pre Pesto's birth or when he was very young. 347 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: Uh. 348 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 2: And his mother also has passed away. And so Pesto's 349 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 2: two dads, he says, two dads, and that's the penguins 350 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 2: he hangs around with. And they're smaller penguins. So part 351 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 2: of why he also looks so big is because he's 352 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 2: hanging out with these two smaller penguins all the time. 353 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think at least part of that is true. 354 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: So he is. 355 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: Like I thought. I thought it was sus so I 356 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: didn't google it because I liked it so much. 357 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: So his his father is one of the oldest and 358 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: largest penguins at the zoo. I don't know that his father, 359 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: Blake is actually dead. He is being raised by foster parents. 360 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: So like the the foster parents are Tango and Hudson. 361 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that these are these are I don't 362 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: know if they're They might be gay penguins. There's so 363 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: I would like, Yeah, I believe it's so. Yes, I 364 00:20:55,480 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: believe so so and but yeah, I don't know. I 365 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 1: haven't really seen anything specifically about the mother. I don't 366 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: know that the mother's actually died. I think it may 367 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: just be that the father's really old. Raising a penguin 368 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: is kind of a two penguin job, and so they 369 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: wanted to try out. They wanted to give this egg 370 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 1: to Hudson and Tango to raise, to see how that 371 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: if that would work out well, and it did work 372 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: out really really well. It worked out super well, well 373 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: cared for. So Pesto he's a juvenile king penguin, not 374 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: an emperor penguin, so we're not talking about happy feet here. 375 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: Happy feet penguins are emperor penguins. King penguins are slightly smaller, 376 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 1: so Pesto is enormous. He was hatched January twenty twenty 377 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: four at Sea Life Melbourne Aquarium, and like most baby penguins, 378 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: he grew a fluffy brown coat that started to lighten, 379 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: and eventually, as an adult it will molt in favor 380 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: of that black, yellow and white coloration that you're familiar 381 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: with of penguins. But currently I think he's sort of 382 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: a fluffy gray, sort of light gray. He started out 383 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: as a dark brown gray. That coat lightens, gets a 384 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: little thinner as they age, and then they'll molt and 385 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:22,479 Speaker 1: then have their adult colors. But Pesto is unique because 386 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: Pesto is absolutely enormous. He towers over his gay foster dads. 387 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: So for a frame of reference, adult king penguins typically 388 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: average around thirty five pounds, so that's about sixteen kilograms. 389 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: In September of this year of our Lord and Savior 390 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: King Penguin twenty twenty four, Pesto weighed forty six pounds. 391 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 2: Lord almighty. 392 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: Thirty five pounds is the average. He's forty six pounds 393 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: and it's just baby, and he's a baby, and that's 394 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: about twenty one kilograms. He was eating twenty five fish 395 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: a day. He's the largest baby king penguin in the 396 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,719 Speaker 1: aquarium's history, and he's only getting bigger. Last time I checked, 397 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: it's looked like he was maybe fifty pounds at least. 398 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, every time he's on TikTok. You know, the search 399 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 2: bar of TikTok has what everybody else is searching every 400 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 2: single video of Pesto without fail. The search bar is 401 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 2: why is Pasto so big? Why is Pesto so big? 402 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 2: We need to know? 403 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: Well, the according to the zoo, it's partially genetics. His 404 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: father was one of the biggest penguins in the zoo's history, 405 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: or the in the aquarium's history. Part of it, they say, 406 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: is because of his parents. The foster parents are incredibly attentive, 407 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: so feeding him a lot. So like both both genes 408 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: and environment mean he is enrm uh, but they do 409 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: say the caretakers do say that he'll drop and wait 410 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: after fledging, so like once he finally molts as an 411 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: adult to around thirty three pounds or fifteen kilograms, so 412 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: dropping down to somewhere in the average. But I'm so skeptical, Idia, Yeah, 413 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: I believe. 414 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 2: Them he's got twenty pounds of feathers that he's gonna drop. 415 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: Okay, no, no, And I mean part of it could be, 416 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: like the metabolism changes a little bit, But like I'm 417 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: also very skeptical, Like in I tried to sort of 418 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: hunt this down. In the wild, it looks like, in 419 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: good conditions, pre fledgling king penguins have an average weight 420 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: of about twenty eight pounds or thirteen kilograms. Remember, Pesto 421 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: is like fifty pounds right now, But let's say the 422 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: weight is higher, right, Like in the wild they may 423 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: be thinner, right because they're getting less nutrition. Let's say 424 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: they're heavier on average in captivity. Even then, like let's 425 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: say they're like, you know, instead of twenty eight pounds, 426 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: they're like thirty eight pounds or something. Pesto is fifty pounds, 427 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: So like there's still this like vast difference in weight. 428 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: Like I I want to place bets, Like what do 429 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: you think he's gonna weigh as an adult? 430 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: I think what was his father's weight? Do we know 431 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 2: it was forty something? 432 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: Oh we don't. Yeah, I don't know what his father's 433 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: weight is. Let me see, But I mean he was big. 434 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 2: Right, I think he's going to be bigger than even 435 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 2: his dad, which is the largest. So I think he'll 436 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: definitely be the new largest in captivity. I guess he's 437 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 2: still he's still going to weigh forty three pounds. 438 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: That's very close to my guess, which was just forty pounds, 439 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: because it's a nice round number. 440 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, but we'll. 441 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: See, we shall see. In the wild, king penguins are 442 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: one of the biggest species of penguin, outmatched only by 443 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 1: emperor penguins. They're just a sleeker, slimmer version of emperor penguins. 444 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: They're found in the South Atlantic in South Indian Ocean 445 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: on these Subantarctic islands. Typically they live in warmer conditions 446 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: than the emperor penguin. So it is it's almost as 447 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: if someone like slipped in an emperor penguin egg into 448 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: the enclosure and is just like trying to pass it 449 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: off as. 450 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 2: Wow, that would be a hilarious twist in this someone 451 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 2: just put the wrong egg in the wrong place and 452 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: they're like, oh god, oh. 453 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: No, yeah, so just got the egg switched. Fun fact 454 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: about pesto, Oh no, we already we already covered that. 455 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, the pesto is being raised by these foster parents, 456 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: and it is really cute because penguins are very attentive. 457 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: They there's a good chance that if you give them 458 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: an egg, they're just gonna be like, hey, free kid 459 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: and raise that egg as their own. 460 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: Incredible. These are half off this. 461 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: Month, so yeah, and parental care is quite significant for penguins, 462 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: including king penguins. The like I said, males also caretake 463 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: for the eggs and for the offspring. Once the egg 464 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: has hatched, that baby is very vulnerable. Even though they 465 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: grow that really fluffy, brown, downy coat, eventually, when they 466 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: are newly hatched, they barely have any feathers or any 467 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: down at all, so they're very vulnerable to freezing to death. 468 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: So what the parents have to do is they sort 469 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: of tuck them under their tummy. They have this thing 470 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 1: called a brood pouch that they can tuck either over 471 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: the egg or once the chick is hatched, they can 472 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: tuck it over the chicken. They balance the egg sort 473 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: of like on their feet and then tuck the pouch 474 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: over so they're nice and snugly and warm. 475 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 2: Oh that's so sweet. It's kind of like a reverse 476 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 2: kangaroo pouch. Then it's like an Audi pouch. 477 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: It's an Audi pouch. I love that. But but yeah, 478 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: and I mean, like because that's one reason like that. 479 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: I mean, there's like in every species, every species of 480 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: animals will have gay animals, Like, that's just basically something 481 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: that will happen if there is an animal that sexually reproduces, 482 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: I think it's almost guaranteed that some of them will 483 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: be gay. And so penguins are not unique in being gay. 484 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: Penguins are unique in that we have them in captivity 485 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: a lot so we can observe them, and also that 486 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: they are such good and loving dads. So that's why 487 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: we get these unique situations where we have we get 488 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: to see like loving gay parents raising a foster a 489 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: foster pesto. So because and because you know, the fathers 490 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: do really invest just as much care into raising the 491 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: chicks as the females do, which is something that is 492 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: more common in seabirds, it seems, because the demands of 493 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: the environments are so harsh that you really need both 494 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: parents to be involved. 495 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's so great. That's some good, great 496 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 2: gay representation, because like I mean, how big a baby 497 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 2: penguin is has to be a metric for like how 498 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: well you're taking care of it. So it's like these 499 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 2: are amazing fathers. Yes, yeah, they're killing it. We shouldn't we. 500 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: Shouldn't need to like point to penguins to encourage people 501 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: to support gay rights. 502 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 2: But you know, but this penguin said gay rights. 503 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: This penguin didn't say gay rights. Yeah, it just it 504 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,239 Speaker 1: makes me think about like here in Italy, I think 505 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: there's just a law pass that makes it illegal to 506 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: it effectively bans gay people from adopting or becoming parents, 507 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: which I think is disgusting that this is happening in Italy, 508 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: and it is, you know, it's just like it's so weird, right, 509 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: like that we come up with all these laws and 510 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: hang ups. Meanwhile, penguins are just like, we've just raised 511 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: this baby to be the world's largest pain one large. 512 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 2: We're literally, statistically the best penguin. 513 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: Parents, statistically the best penguin parents. Like you have ever 514 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: seen witness our enormous child. 515 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the miracle penguin baby, and Italy is just 516 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 2: ignoring it. 517 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, make that movie DreamWorks with Disney, I dare you. 518 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: All Right, So we're gonna take a quick break, but 519 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: when we return, we are going to talk about or 520 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,719 Speaker 1: we're gonna do a little change up. We're gonna kind 521 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: of do the opposite the tiniest babies that grow into 522 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: the biggest adults. 523 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 2: That sounds great. 524 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: All right, so we are back and we're going to 525 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: talk about the world's any bittiest baby. But the twist 526 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: is that they grow into very large animals. So this 527 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: is about some of the greatest growths from birth weight 528 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: to adult weight in the animal kingdom. And so my 529 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: two favorite examples of this are the red kangaroo and 530 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: the sunfish, two very different animals. Let's start with the 531 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: red kangaroo. I like that you brought up earlier, the 532 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: fact that the penguin brewed pouch is like an Audi pouch, 533 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: like a kangaroo pouch but Audi, and we are going 534 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: to talk about kangaroo pouches here. So red kangaroos are marsupials, 535 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: and like other kangaroos, they're actually the largest kangaroo. And 536 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: when they give birth, their joeys start out incredibly tiny. 537 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: They are basically like fetuses at this point, and they 538 00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: are like the size of a tiny bean, and they 539 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: crawl their way out of the vaginal canal up into 540 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: the mother's the mother kangaroo's pouch. It's this like incredible 541 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: journey that takes them. It's actually surprisingly fast. It takes 542 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: like around five to ten minutes for them to crawl up. 543 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 2: They do it themselves. They do it themselves. Yeah that's crazy. 544 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. They And then once they're inside the pouch, they 545 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: have to latch onto a teat and then they stay 546 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: there until they start growing. So adult red kangaroos, like 547 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: I said, they are the largest roo, biggest rou and 548 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: they weigh anywhere from around ninety pounds or forty kilograms 549 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: if female, or up to two hundred pounds around ninety 550 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: kilograms if male. Guess how much the newborn babies weigh, man, 551 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: I've seen. 552 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 2: A baby kangaroo before, and they are teeny tiny, like 553 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 2: the size of a mouse. So I'm gonna say like 554 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 2: a pound. 555 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: Yeah that's because you see it after it started developing 556 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: a little bit. The newborn babies are like a single gram. 557 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: They are like they are smaller than a bean, which 558 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: means that they grow around ninety thousand times their birth 559 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: weight when they reach adulthood. 560 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 2: Man, kangaroo's got it made. I'm jealous of kangaroos, I. 561 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: Know, right, Like when I think about having children, it's 562 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: just like, why wasn't I born a kangaroo? Yes, although 563 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: I guess they get a squirming toddler like attached to 564 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: your stomach pouch all the time, although that just happens 565 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: with us. 566 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 2: We do that, we do that to us and carry 567 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 2: them around, and that's when they're the most peaceful, honestly, 568 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 2: is when they're like like super pressed to their mother's body. 569 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 2: They usually just sleep. So dang kangaroos. God loves kangaroos. 570 00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen like people who are like kangaroo rescuers, Like, say, 571 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: the kangaroo babies are being raised in sort of a 572 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: rescue organization. They can just like hold out like a 573 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: bag and the little kangaroo will come up, the joey'll 574 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: come up and just like flop right into the pack. 575 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 2: It's so cold, that's amazing. Oh, they're so portable. 576 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: They really are the most the most I would say 577 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: convenient baby. Another convenient baby is the baby of the sunfish. 578 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,919 Speaker 1: Oh wait, no, no, no, I have something really cool 579 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: to say about the red kangaroo. First, so one fun 580 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: little thing with that might either make you jealous or not. 581 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but like female red kangaroos are almost 582 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: perpetually pregnant. Now that sounds bad, I'm off ford, I'm afward. 583 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: Their bodies can actually freeze the development of the embryo 584 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 1: if she senses that she currently has a Joey in 585 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: her pouch, so essentially she can control when she gives 586 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: birth to the new Joey, which again is gonna be 587 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: like a teeny tiny bean. And then once the older 588 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: Joey like moves out of the pouch, like moves out 589 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: of his old room, then she starts up the the 590 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: birthing process that the like the embryo continues to develop, 591 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: is born and then crawls into the empty pouch. 592 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 2: Can if they sense that there's like not enough resources 593 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 2: or something around, can they just not have a baby 594 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,479 Speaker 2: at all? Or does it always have to be sort 595 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 2: of in some in some way in that process? I 596 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 2: guess does that make sense? 597 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: Like I would imagine that if there's other environmental cues, 598 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: right that like she can hold she can can continue 599 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: to hold off on giving birth, right like like you 600 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: pull it in essentially in a way, in a way. 601 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's a very good point, like resource, uh, like, 602 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 1: if there's your resources, yeah, she might she might also 603 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: continue to halt the embryonic development, but yeah, and there 604 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: could of course, there could also be like miscarriage type 605 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: type situation, which is like sort of a natural abortion 606 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: that would be in cases where your body is very 607 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: stressed and so it aborts the baby to you know, 608 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: prevent there from being a pregnancy during a time that 609 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: is not good for it. 610 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 2: So so interesting. 611 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it sounds convenient to me. I'm very jealous. Now. 612 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: So the other one that I love are sunfish. Have 613 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 1: you ever seen a sunfish? 614 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 2: I know they're very big. Yes, are they big? Are 615 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 2: they big? Flat guys? 616 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 1: Yes, you have seen them. Yes, they're enormous, weird flat 617 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 1: fish with big bulging eyes. They're very strange looking. They 618 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: weigh up to one thousand kilograms or two thousand, two 619 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: hundred pounds. 620 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 2: Wow. 621 00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: In contrast, the babies that hatch look like teeny tiny 622 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: spikey stars and they weigh less than a gram. Uh, 623 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: they're almost like planked in it, like they're just a 624 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: few millimeters wide. Oh wow, Yeah, it's wild. Many of 625 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: them will not reach adulthood. They're so tiny. They're like 626 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: an easy snack for a lot of things. But it's fine. 627 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 1: It's fine because mom can carry around three hundred million eggs. 628 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 2: Okay, so you really don't want her to have all 629 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 2: of those babies, or we would just there would be 630 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 2: no ocean, there would be no sunfish. 631 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: You could just walk on on all these sunfish. Yeah. Uh. 632 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: The ones that do survive increase their birth weight by 633 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: a factor of a million. It is an incredible change. 634 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 2: Yes, that's so crazy, Like how do you even have 635 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 2: enough cells in your body to construct? 636 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: Well, you don't start out with them, you make it. 637 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: They start dividing, myosis, my toe, my god. 638 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 2: And like I think about how much like when you're 639 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 2: a teenager you have growing pains like I had bad 640 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 2: and pains, and. 641 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, especially in the legs. Well they don't have legs, 642 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: so maybe it's fine. 643 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, they just they just kind of go out. 644 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, flat pancake. Well, uh, before we go, we do 645 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: have to play a little game. It's called the Mystery 646 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: Animal Sound game. Every week I play a mystery animal 647 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: sound and you the listener, and you the guest, try 648 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: to guess who is squawking' wow, let me take that again. Uh, 649 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: and you the guests try to guess who is squawking. 650 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,800 Speaker 1: Let's guess who's squawking. So last week's mystery animal sound, 651 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: the hint was this happy hollow Wayne from this loud 652 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 1: little aquatic gentleman. All right, we're able to hear that. 653 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, is that a bat? 654 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: Uh? That's a very good guess. It does sound a 655 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: little bit like a bat, But no, this is the 656 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: lesser water boatman. Uh. Micro Netta shalt seal. That is 657 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: that there's a lot of consonants in this name. It's 658 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:35,399 Speaker 1: Microta schultzee. So it is an oval aquatic insect only 659 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: around two millimeters long that produces an incredibly loud sound 660 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: by rubbing its penis against its abdomen. It's kind of like, 661 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: you know, like a spoon and a washboard kind of thing, 662 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,760 Speaker 1: or one of those like weiro instruments that you played 663 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: as a kid in elementary school. 664 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 2: But it's a penis on an abdomen. 665 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: But it is a penis on an abdomen. Uh. This 666 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 1: is something called stridulation. It's similar to what crickets do, 667 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: but in this case it's with a penis. 668 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 2: And you're so beautiful. 669 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: It's glorious, it's beautiful and it is you know, I 670 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: dig it. This musical singing penis can reach volume up 671 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: to ninety nine decibels. That's very loud. That's like, you know, 672 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:32,359 Speaker 1: that's almost jackhammer loud. Fortunately, the water protects us from 673 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,359 Speaker 1: being subjected to the sound at full volume, so we 674 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: really don't hear it like that loud. It's always underwater 675 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: when it's making these stridulations. So but yeah, that is 676 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: the You know, it's kind of fun when a guy 677 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: just serenades you, but with his wiener, with. 678 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 2: His wiener, you know, and it's so loud that it's 679 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 2: the sound like the sound of a jackhammer. 680 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 1: Just imagine a guy playing a violin in a very 681 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: specific way. 682 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 2: Yes, oh god, all right, it is horrifying. Thank you 683 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:08,959 Speaker 2: for that image in my head. 684 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. I thought that we could wash down 685 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: all of the cute babies stuff with like horrifying piece 686 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:23,240 Speaker 1: instrument from above. Yes, get here, Yes, all right, onto 687 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: this week's mystery animal sound. The hint, Well, first of all, 688 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: this is an animal I learned from my guest Kara 689 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: Jaimo about an episode or so ago. And the hint 690 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: is this holy ray fins Batman. All right Lydia got 691 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:47,800 Speaker 1: any guesses? 692 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 2: Is it? 693 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,799 Speaker 1: Is it a sting ray Ooh, that's a good guess. 694 00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 1: I definitely did say rayfin in there. That is a 695 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: very good guess. Well, I won't reveal the answer or 696 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: not yet. You gotta wait around until next week's Creature feature. Lydia, 697 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,879 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining me today to talk 698 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:22,800 Speaker 1: about Moo Dang and Pesto and our beautiful little bean kangaroos. 699 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 1: Where can people find. 700 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 2: You on social media? I'm at, you know, Lydia on 701 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 2: pretty much everything. It's yo you k and ow Lydia. 702 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 2: My biggest platform is probably TikTok. 703 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, I should figure out how that website works. 704 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,839 Speaker 2: Just skip right past it and go to Snapchat. That's 705 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 2: where everybody is now. 706 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: Seriously, yes, I'm such a grandma. I can't like. I'm like, oh, 707 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 1: do we see how these tiktoks work? And it's like, 708 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,879 Speaker 1: now everyone's on Snapchat. Now you missed it. You missed it? 709 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you guys so much for listening. 710 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 1: If you're enjoying the show, you can leave a rating 711 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 1: or review. I read all the I appreciate all the reviews. 712 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 1: I got that mixed up. I read all the reviews, 713 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 1: and I appreciate all the ratings. Someone's gonna leave a 714 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 1: rating like cannot distinguish between reviews and ratings. One star 715 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 1: stars and thanks to the space Cossics for their super 716 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 1: awesome song x Alumina. 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