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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she

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Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and

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Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me

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Speaker 1: advice to many occasions. In incase you didn't notice, I'm

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Speaker 1: not broke, you know, he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs

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Speaker 1: It's what he likes to share. Now it's time to

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Speaker 1: hear from my man, Rashan McDonald. Money Making Conversations Here

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Speaker 1: we come. Welcome to money Making Conversation. I am your host.

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Speaker 1: Rashean McDonald recognized that we all have different definitions of success.

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Speaker 1: For some succisable paycheck, Mine is helping people wake up

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Speaker 1: and inspiring them to accomplish their goals and live their

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Speaker 1: very best life. These are my passions and that's what

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Speaker 1: I'm going to do for you. I want you to

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Speaker 1: stop tripping over small challenges and prepare to rise above

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Speaker 1: the bigger obstacles that life will present to you. That's

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Speaker 1: what my guests do on this show. They bring these

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Speaker 1: nuggets of information that will motivate you. Take those nuggets

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Speaker 1: from these interviews and use apply them to your life

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Speaker 1: and keep winning. My next guest is a true winner,

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Speaker 1: longtime friend, Dr Ian Smith, who was the author of

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Speaker 1: many number one New York Times bestselling books Shred, The

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Speaker 1: Revolutionary Diet, Super Shred, The Big Results, Died, Blasted, Sugar Out,

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Speaker 1: The Clean Twenty, The Ancient Nine, Cleaning, Lean and Leving.

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Speaker 1: Other books for Maize of copies in print. His newest book,

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Speaker 1: The Unspoken, That's by Ian K. Smith. The first and

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Speaker 1: his ass came MR Series when we released in October one,

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Speaker 1: but you can buy it right now. He's currently the

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Speaker 1: solo host This is the Big News, The Big News.

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Speaker 1: He's currently the solo host of the nationally semicated Emmy

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Speaker 1: Award winning television show The Doctors. He's gonna be on

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Speaker 1: Emmy Award winning show. He's been on The Rachel Ray

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Speaker 1: Show many times recently please working the money making conversations.

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Speaker 1: Dr Ian Smith. Wow, that's that's quite an introduction. I

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Speaker 1: was trying to figure out who you're talking about. Hey, man,

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Speaker 1: when you have a career, I didn't even go all

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Speaker 1: the way back to the Jina jail, those days, towns days. Man,

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Speaker 1: when I first saw you a little skinny behind on TV,

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Speaker 1: we've always crossed paths or TV. I remember in New

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Speaker 1: always have been about encouraging people to do better, to

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Speaker 1: such a strong mantra in your life? Dr and Smith, Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, one of the reasons why I wanted to

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Speaker 1: We're temporary custodians of this great earth. And you know,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to money making conversations. I'm your host. Sean

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. You know, there was something you're watching TV

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Speaker 1: and it just dawned on you creatively. Wow, this this

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Speaker 1: this book is about. The Unspoken You can buy right now.

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Speaker 1: It comes out officially out October one. Give us a

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Speaker 1: little juicy. What is this particular storyline about? Now, I, hey,

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Speaker 1: you tell me, because I don't want to give away

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Speaker 1: too much of the fact. So, um, the book opens

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Speaker 1: up with a very wealthy white woman, the aristocratic from

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Speaker 1: the north Shore of Chicago. She goes down to the

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Speaker 1: South Loop and he's going to asking she's blowdy. She

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Speaker 1: goes down to the South Loop and she finds Ashcane,

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Speaker 1: our man, and she says to him, I want you

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Speaker 1: to find my missing daughter. And he doesn't want to

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Speaker 1: do it at first, and just something she says to

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Speaker 1: him that he piques his interest because money is not

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Speaker 1: an issue for him. He's fine. He got a big

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Speaker 1: selling from the city. So he doesn't take cases because

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Speaker 1: of the money. He takes cases only when it it tingles,

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Speaker 1: something tingles inside of him and says, I gotta look

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Speaker 1: into this. And um, that's the opening book, and so

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Speaker 1: he's The book is him trying to find this wealthy

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Speaker 1: white girl who disappeared. And the ride starts is twisting

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Speaker 1: and turning. It's up and down. You go to the

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Speaker 1: tough streets of Englewood, um all the way up to

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Speaker 1: the north Shore and the wealthy coast of Downtown to

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Speaker 1: the go it's just you know, Chicago. He goes everywhere

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Speaker 1: in Chicago, by the way, is a character in the book. Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Chicago is I think a very misunderstood city. And it's

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Speaker 1: but it's an important city. It's the third country's third

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Speaker 1: largest city. But it's a flyover city. Everyone talks about

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Speaker 1: l A and New York and you fly over Chicago.

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Speaker 1: And so I really want to Chicago itself to be

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Speaker 1: a character. I want you to understand the pulse of

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Speaker 1: the city, the grid of the city, of the fashion

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Speaker 1: of the city, every everything, all parts of the city.

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Speaker 1: It's a corrupt city. Chicago is a corrupt city, you know.

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Speaker 1: It's it's the foundation of this city. It's corruption. And

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Speaker 1: I don't say that in a negative majority way, but

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Speaker 1: that's the truth. If you look at the history of Chicago,

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Speaker 1: it's about back room deals, it's about connections and who

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Speaker 1: knows who, and aldermen and and and the Cook County President.

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Speaker 1: So I felt like, what a great place to put

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Speaker 1: a private investigator series in the city that has so

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Speaker 1: many different faces to it. Well, you know what I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you, You're absolutely right, Chicago one of my favorite cities.

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Speaker 1: Great food. By the way, if you ever want to

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Speaker 1: traveling around to where I want to eat great food,

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Speaker 1: go to Chicago. They got it out, they got it.

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Speaker 1: But you know, you know, let's shift gears a little

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Speaker 1: bit because you are on the doctor and we're the

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Speaker 1: middle of a pandemic. H When you read the articles

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Speaker 1: and station at four percent of the people who actually

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Speaker 1: die from COVID nineteen have pretty sixteen medical conditions. When

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Speaker 1: you realize that, you know African America, because the people

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Speaker 1: of color are overtly affected by the code virus, what

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Speaker 1: is your role in all of this, just from an

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Speaker 1: informational standpoint, Well, I think, you know, I think that

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Speaker 1: it's been very unfortunate what has happened in our country.

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Speaker 1: And I say that I'm trying to be calm about

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Speaker 1: it because it really roused my blood pressure. The fact

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Speaker 1: that the medical experts, the scientists, the doctors, the nurses,

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Speaker 1: the public health advocates, the fact that they were not

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Speaker 1: the leading voice of this pandemic and and guiding the

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Speaker 1: country and how to fight it, And that the politicians

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Speaker 1: made it a political issue and therefore stripped the true

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Speaker 1: a political nature of the pandemic. It's science. Science and

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Speaker 1: medicine are not political. People make it political. Virus isn't political.

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Speaker 1: Virus infects what's called a host, and that's just a body.

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Speaker 1: It could be a rich person, a poor personal, black person,

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Speaker 1: white Jewish, it doesn't matter, Muslim, it doesn't matter. And

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Speaker 1: and the fact that the government that some certain leaders

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Speaker 1: in the government quote unquote leaders in the government, the

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Speaker 1: fact that they made this a political issue is really

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Speaker 1: really disgusting and it has compromised the entire country. The

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Speaker 1: number of deaths would not be where it is, the

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Speaker 1: number of injuries would not be where it is. The

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Speaker 1: loss not listen to this, No one talks about, really

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Speaker 1: the loss of life experience. Kids not being able to

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Speaker 1: go back to school, sports being canceled for kids their seniors,

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Speaker 1: the last chance of being able to win the state title,

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Speaker 1: um kids not being recruited because they didn't were able

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Speaker 1: to play a whole season and recruiters couldn't see them.

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Speaker 1: People not being able to tend their children's graduation a

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Speaker 1: whole class, not being able to walk up on the

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Speaker 1: stage in front of hundreds of people, thousands of people

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Speaker 1: cheering them out after four years of hard work. We're

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Speaker 1: trying to think about the loss of life experience, all because,

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Speaker 1: all because some quote unquote leaders in Washington wanted to

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Speaker 1: politicize this and not take it seriously. And now this

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Speaker 1: is the damage. This is the carnage. So as a physician,

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Speaker 1: as an American, as a as a lover of human life,

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Speaker 1: this has been a really, really tough time for me

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Speaker 1: to see what has happened because I'm telling you, you

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Speaker 1: asked anybody who has been to med school and they

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Speaker 1: will tell you, Rachean, this isn't complicated. Scientists and doctors

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Speaker 1: know what to do, but weren't allowed to guide the

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Speaker 1: country and how to minimize its effect. And that's why

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Speaker 1: this is very sad and history will not look very

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Speaker 1: kindly on this period of American life because it will

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Speaker 1: show how incapable when that we were not actually saying

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Speaker 1: we were very capable. It will show how ineffective and

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Speaker 1: inept we were when we had tons of capability that

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Speaker 1: we ignored it absolutely, And let's cliticizing it, trying to

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Speaker 1: keep the stock market open, trying to keep the country open,

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Speaker 1: when when it can be layed with simple decision where

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Speaker 1: I'm at social distance and be and using political intimidation too,

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Speaker 1: that's what you're saying by not allowing the doctors to

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Speaker 1: be doctors and scientists be scientists and be guided by

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Speaker 1: their decision making. No, we're going to change the rules

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Speaker 1: you can't change. Not listen. You don't want me to

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Speaker 1: talk to you about the ins and out, the exits

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Speaker 1: and o's of the economy. I'm not an economist. You

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Speaker 1: don't want me leave that conversation. I'm serious, right, You

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Speaker 1: don't want me to tell you the exces and ohs

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Speaker 1: of how to drill for oil. That's not what I do.

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Speaker 1: I've I've never never done it, haven't trained in it.

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Speaker 1: But here we have people who have never never done

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Speaker 1: anything in the scientific community are gonna tell the country

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Speaker 1: what is a good vaccine? What is the proper medication

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Speaker 1: when a vaccine should be available? How can you say that?

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Speaker 1: That's like me saying you, hey, ra Sean, you know what,

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Speaker 1: in six months, I want the stock market to be

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Speaker 1: over saith what well, because I said that we should

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Speaker 1: be at It doesn't work that way. Science doesn't work

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Speaker 1: because you've got some deadline. Sciencests science. Science happens on

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Speaker 1: its own. And I just think, you know, it's just

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Speaker 1: been horrible in this country, just very sad. In the

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Speaker 1: classic example what you just said, the CEO of Astra

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Speaker 1: Zenica say it in April that he would have a

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Speaker 1: vaccine in September. I guess who paused in September Astra Zeneca.

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Speaker 1: So that's what you're saying. You cannot predict signs you

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Speaker 1: just like you cannot predict your stock market. That's and

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Speaker 1: you can't give into political pressure. My feeling, and I'm

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Speaker 1: public about this, My feeling is had the country shut

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Speaker 1: down for four to six weeks like the other countries

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Speaker 1: had done, I mean shut down, no air traffic, no

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Speaker 1: interstate travel with trains and buses. Had we all shelted

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Speaker 1: in place together, all of us. I don't care where

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Speaker 1: you live, from South Dakota to Louisiana to Boston to

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Speaker 1: l it doesn't matter. If we all just sat at

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Speaker 1: home and our small communities and let this thing die down,

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Speaker 1: let it die down, we'd be in a much different

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Speaker 1: world right now. But because people didn't want to do it,

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Speaker 1: Rashaan in a uniform way, everyone said, well, I got rights,

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Speaker 1: I got right. This wasn't about rights. This was about

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Speaker 1: how do you attack a global pandemic? And then you

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Speaker 1: look at the data. On the show The Doctors, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about this September twenty one, wee premiere. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about what did other countries do. Why is

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Speaker 1: it that they had a hundred days of no infections?

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna compare what they did and what the

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Speaker 1: best lessons are. But we just didn't do it right. Rashanot,

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Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta open the economy. Well, listen, what

581
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Speaker 1: good is opening the economy if people end up getting

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Speaker 1: sick and you gotta close the businesses again, if you

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Speaker 1: want to have a pink pok relationship, open clothes, open

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Speaker 1: and now look where we are. I called it, you

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Speaker 1: called it. It's the that's the perfect theme for the

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Speaker 1: new season, Take your power back. Tell us the background

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Speaker 1: of why that's important. Just listen to I'm Jason Man.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna enjoy. If I can't see it, I'm recording

589
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Speaker 1: it because you're already on fire. You're on fire. But

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Speaker 1: the thing about our relationship, we just get the talking doctor,

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Speaker 1: We just get the talking and next thing you know,

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Speaker 1: it's thirty minutes later. We gotta go ahead. I gotta

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Speaker 1: stop talking to you you, brother, I can't take it all

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Speaker 1: your time. But the theme is take your power act.

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Speaker 1: Tell us about the new season. You kind of hitting

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Speaker 1: on it on the premiere episode, But what is that

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Speaker 1: arc of the season. Take your Power Back, very succinctly,

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Speaker 1: Take your power Back means that we have been living

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Speaker 1: in times that we have felt powerless. These are uncertain times,

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Speaker 1: these are dangerous times. People are scared and nervous, understandably,

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Speaker 1: so we want to show people that there are things

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Speaker 1: that you can do to take some of that power back,

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Speaker 1: not all of it, because some of this is out

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Speaker 1: of our control, like vaccines, out of our control, but

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Speaker 1: there are things that you can do within your own homes,

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Speaker 1: within your own life to take some of that power

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Speaker 1: and stability back. And so we're gonna inspire people, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna challenge people. We're gonna give you the best answers

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Speaker 1: that we can find that are scientifically based and not

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Speaker 1: politically based. And my my mission to my team was this.

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Speaker 1: In the very beginning, I said, guys, every day, I

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Speaker 1: want to do something that every person watching can make

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Speaker 1: a change in their life to improve it. And that's

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Speaker 1: our mission. We wanted this is a show for the people.

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Speaker 1: It's about the People's not about what dr Ian thinks,

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Speaker 1: what my producers think. It's about what people need. So

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Speaker 1: we want to put this show forward. You also send

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Speaker 1: me a d M on Instagram at dr Ian Smith.

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Speaker 1: Uh spelled the Doctor out and let me know what

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Speaker 1: you wanted to talk about. Uh, let me know about

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Speaker 1: your experts. We want different experts from all walks of

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Speaker 1: life to give us different experiences. This is gonna be

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Speaker 1: a show for all of us. It's let me a

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Speaker 1: diverse show tackling issues that we all care about. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I post about you, so you know when

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Speaker 1: people react very good when I post about Dr n

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Speaker 1: Smith on my Time Life. And so if you've got

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Speaker 1: a banner that say it's what you just said, please

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Speaker 1: tell your people to get it to me so I

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Speaker 1: can post and let people know that this show is

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Speaker 1: about the people. Is not so much about the producers.

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Speaker 1: Is about the people in the voices. They want to

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Speaker 1: be a part of the show. You're engaging them. But

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Speaker 1: more importantly, his book They're Spoken To Coming Out is

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Speaker 1: already out officially out October first. You're premiering your new

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Speaker 1: episode of the thirteen season. He's the solo host. Dr

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Speaker 1: Ian Smith is who's the solo host of The Doctors.

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Speaker 1: The author Ian Kate Smith is the same person, same

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Speaker 1: person doing this thing and multiple levels. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: If you ever do an episode Brother by Bacon, call

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Speaker 1: men man, I show up, I show up and do it.

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Speaker 1: Do some baking on the show. Just let people live right.

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Speaker 1: I'll take care of this. I'll take you and I

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Speaker 1: appreciate your friendship to the years. And we've had a

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Speaker 1: lot of experiences together and the road in over year.

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Speaker 1: So let's keep going again. Thank you for coming on

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Speaker 1: Thank you, my brother, appreciate you. Take care. We'll be

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Speaker 1: Slash Radio. Welcome back to Money Making Conversations. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Sean McDonald. My next guest is Gary One. He's one

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Speaker 1: of the top touring comedians today. He's performed and he

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Speaker 1: performed regular and sold like comedy clubs and arenas around

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Speaker 1: this country. His big break came in eighteen seven o

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Speaker 1: BT stand up Showcase Comic View. Now as an actor,

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Speaker 1: you've seen him and think like a man Movies, Daddy Daycare,

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Speaker 1: little man right Alonge. He has on the show to

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Speaker 1: talk about his comedy career because he's back on too COVID.

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Speaker 1: He back out that now COVID shut us down like that,

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Speaker 1: but back out that it's popular, gets on podcast and

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Speaker 1: he's starting a new action through a movie called Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Sudden Death with Michael John White. Please welcome to

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Speaker 1: money making Conversation, my man, Gary on, how are you doing? Gary?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Man? Well, I mean we we kind of

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Speaker 1: we kind of kind of popped up right there, man,

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Speaker 1: that COVID came in and everybody at live event performances

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Speaker 1: shut down. Talk tell us about that moment when there

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Speaker 1: was a realization that that this pandemic was gonna take

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Speaker 1: away a portion your income and how did you deal

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Speaker 1: with it? We took away a huge part of the

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Speaker 1: income there for a while. I'm sorry, I'm sorry I

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Speaker 1: understated that, Gary, I understated it. Yeah, we gott realized.

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Speaker 1: I I kind of lived my life and we budget. Um,

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Speaker 1: like everything around my stand up money, like TV and

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Speaker 1: film money is always just like extra to me. When

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Speaker 1: those when those checks come in, I'm always like, oh great,

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Speaker 1: extra money. But as far as my day to day living,

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Speaker 1: we based it on stand up. So when that came

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Speaker 1: to a halt, um, I was just like, WHOA, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I I thought it was gonna be like two or

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Speaker 1: three months. I didn't know we'd still be going right right,

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Speaker 1: You know that that was a scary part about it.

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Speaker 1: Because of the fact that you know, you know, you

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Speaker 1: know were people have to admit that as you're just

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Speaker 1: an entrepreneur. If you're a stand up comic, you're successful.

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Speaker 1: You're a small business. You're walking talking small business. You

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Speaker 1: just have to be going on stage performing. And when

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Speaker 1: that when when the kovid hit me, I admit I was.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't really grasp how I would go out in public.

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Speaker 1: I have my peral, I have my I have my

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Speaker 1: wife's I had my mask. You know, I have some

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Speaker 1: some some tissues and I didn't know I even had

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Speaker 1: plastic gloves. How did that affect you? You know, not

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Speaker 1: just from a comedic standpoint, just a real life standpoint.

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Speaker 1: You have your your family to deal with, and you

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Speaker 1: in your professional life being shut down. Now you're at home.

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Speaker 1: How did that all play out there? Well, I mean

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Speaker 1: a couple of things I did. I called everyone that

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Speaker 1: I know, um that's healthier than me, which is uh

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Speaker 1: Romney Malco, who isn't thing like a man who's probably

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Speaker 1: the healthiest man I've ever met. I just want to

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Speaker 1: got that guy is seventy five years old and looks thirty.

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Speaker 1: That's my favorite man. He's one of my favorite people. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I called him. I said, Romney, what should I

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Speaker 1: be taking, like to boost my immune system just in

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Speaker 1: case I caught it? Or and if I did catch it,

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Speaker 1: I'd be equipped to deal with it. Um, So I

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Speaker 1: called him. I called a couple of doctors that I know.

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Speaker 1: I just called everyone healthier than me to find out

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Speaker 1: what I should be taken, uh, in case I called it?

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Speaker 1: And then you know, I'm going back to what you

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Speaker 1: said earlier. How um when the COVID hit, how did

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Speaker 1: I deal with it? One thing I did that I

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Speaker 1: would encourage any comic to do is I really am

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Speaker 1: up my YouTube and Facebook videos because um uh you know,

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Speaker 1: once you get a thound of subscribers, you can get

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Speaker 1: monetized on you. Yes, yes, And so I actually hired

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Speaker 1: a company to take all my old jokes because I

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Speaker 1: own all my my comedy specials and I did it myself.

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Speaker 1: So I was like, cut these up, put them on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: and it kind of supplemented my income. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: wasn't as much as stand up, but it was more

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Speaker 1: money than I had had in the past of social media.

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Speaker 1: So you that's the money I could have made made

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Speaker 1: without leaving my house. Now, let me ask you this

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Speaker 1: so so and every time a lot of people do

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Speaker 1: notice every time you when you have subscribers, and every

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Speaker 1: time you upload the video, it notifies your current subscribers,

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Speaker 1: and that's how you get more subscribers. And so did

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Speaker 1: you did you just like, uh, you know, because a

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Speaker 1: lot of people understand that social media really is is

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Speaker 1: a is a blessing. And this is what you said. Look,

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Speaker 1: hey man, I own my material, I copyright this stuff.

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Speaker 1: Let me go on YouTube and make more money using

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Speaker 1: my material. And that enabled you to see things from

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Speaker 1: a different perspective. Now that the pandemic is allowing you

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Speaker 1: to go back to work, aren't you looking at a

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Speaker 1: different financial model? I am. And it's also building your

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Speaker 1: fan base. You're you're bringing in fans that you didn't

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Speaker 1: have before the pandemic because more people are at home

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Speaker 1: watching this stuff, right, And now you get back on

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Speaker 1: the road and you know, I got back on the

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Speaker 1: road a few times in the last couple of months,

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Speaker 1: and with YouTube, Facebook and the podcast, it's like I'm

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Speaker 1: bringing in new fans that I didn't know I had

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Speaker 1: before the pandemic. Well, now you become, like they say,

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Speaker 1: multiple streams of income and that's that's when we all

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Speaker 1: try to achieve there's not and you know, also achieving

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Speaker 1: a level where you're not waiting on somebody to give

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Speaker 1: you an opportunity, especially with the podcast and especially with

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Speaker 1: the YouTube challenge. So when I when I when I

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Speaker 1: look at what you're doing with your career. Gary, First

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Speaker 1: of all, I'm proud of you, you know always, you

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Speaker 1: know backstage watching you perform. I've I've watched on TV.

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Speaker 1: I've watched at least two of your your comedy special.

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Speaker 1: You know, you built a brand, and you built a

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Speaker 1: brand as a white guy in a black with a

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Speaker 1: black audience. How did all that start? You know, because

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Speaker 1: I I just stand up. I started out performing in

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Speaker 1: front of the all white audience and then Deaf Jam

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Speaker 1: hit in ninety two, and suddenly I saw a black

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Speaker 1: audience out there, and I shifted my gear that went

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Speaker 1: over there and say, this is a bigger opportunity to

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Speaker 1: plays a bigger check. I'm I'm I'm gonna live my

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Speaker 1: dream through this. And then I became a talent manager

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Speaker 1: and the rest is history. So how did you start

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Speaker 1: out your's your stand up career and your focal point. Well,

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Speaker 1: I always knew I wanted to be a stand up.

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Speaker 1: I just didn't know how do you do it? You know,

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Speaker 1: you grew up in a small town in Ohio. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: how do I how do you even start? Because even

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Speaker 1: when I was a teenager, I would We had a

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Speaker 1: local comedy club. We had a Funny Bone in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Ray Cam used to own. He used to be the

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Speaker 1: host Family Feud and uh he uh. I'd always sit

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Speaker 1: outside and listen to the comics. I was too young

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Speaker 1: And it was funny because I actually got cool with

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Speaker 1: the door guy there, and he started to be like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I mean you always hanging out here, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I'm I'm a comedian. I never

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Speaker 1: I would tell him you I'm a comedian. And then

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Speaker 1: uh he started to let me sit in the back.

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Speaker 1: He had his own little back, high top table, and

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Speaker 1: me and this guy would sit in the back and

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Speaker 1: we'd watch stand ups come in and literally never being

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Speaker 1: on stage. I'd be in the back critique and status

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Speaker 1: going oh I'm better than him. Oh yeah, I'm funny

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Speaker 1: at him. But then there'd be some comics I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: that guy's pretty good. Is that funny? I never thought

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Speaker 1: of that. I never thought of that. That's that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: It really does become a science. That's that's that's important

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Speaker 1: that you say that because you get to see some people,

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Speaker 1: did you know the musical act? You can see all

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Speaker 1: of them, and that was a beauty of your education,

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Speaker 1: being able to sit back and see all these different levels. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then I joined the military after high school. And

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Speaker 1: the only reason I joined the military is I always

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to be stuck in that trailer park

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Speaker 1: in that small town the rest of my life. So

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Speaker 1: the Navy was an opportunity to basically get an airline

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Speaker 1: ticket and fly me to another part of the country.

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Speaker 1: I got to meet different types of people. And but

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Speaker 1: the whole goal, and it sounds crazy from like I

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Speaker 1: can remember junior high, was to be a stand up

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Speaker 1: and I thought, I thought you had to start in

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Speaker 1: l A. I didn't know you could start doing stand

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Speaker 1: whole state of California was Los Angeles because I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: looking at David the Ross video. I wish y'all could

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Speaker 1: be California girls. I'm like, well that's the whole state.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know there was a friend though in a

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Speaker 1: I finally got stationed after two years in San Diego,

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Speaker 1: was funny. I called this place called the Comic Castle,

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Speaker 1: and I said, hey, man, what's up. You get a

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Speaker 1: phone book? I go, you got open mic? He said,

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Speaker 1: it comes back and I can't find him. I said,

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Speaker 1: women can't find him. It was a comic book store.

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Speaker 1: I thought I was called a comedy club. Was sure.

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Speaker 1: He's trying so hard. You're trying so hard. This is funny, man,

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Speaker 1: continue you continue, man, this is funny. I'm glad to

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Speaker 1: talked to you about this stuff. Come on, man. But

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Speaker 1: He goes, no, man, we're a comic store. But here's

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Speaker 1: the phone number to the comedy store in Lahoya, this

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00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: other comedy club. So I went and I signed up

852
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: for open mic. After about a month, I finally got

853
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 1: on and in my mind that was it. I'm about

854
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: I'm about to be a star, my first open mic.

855
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, I've waited for this, I'm ready for this.

856
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: I think I got I got in the military. Yeah,

857
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: I'm still in the Navy. I'm still in the Navy.

858
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: And I'm like, because open Mic Nights was Sunday night

859
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: at the Comedy Store, and I went up there and

860
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: I got on stage. It was probably midnight, one in

861
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: the morning. There's like ten people in the audience, but

862
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,720
Speaker 1: there's like twenty comics in the back of the room.

863
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: So the comics we're heckling me, and I was like,

864
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: you know, when you open mic? I got this five minutes.

865
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: I don't have anything else. I didn't get out of it.

866
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: So I told the comics from the back, I go, hey,

867
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: why don't you guys keep heckling because I'm nineteen. And

868
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: I had a beer in my hand, and I said,

869
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: I've been drinking this club all night. I want to

870
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: call the cups and shut this plate down. They threw

871
00:43:55,480 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: me out so fast, yo, I it was like out

872
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: of a movie. The power went out on the mic.

873
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: Some bouncer came up and grabbed me by the back

874
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: of my shirt and threw me like I did a

875
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: front roll in front of the comedy store and the

876
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: guy STO, don't have a come back. Great. So I

877
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: go to my ship the next day and I'm telling

878
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: people about the night before, and like you, everybody's laughing,

879
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: and a couple of brothers um that I was stationed with.

880
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: They said, Joe Gee, you can go here, here, and here.

881
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: They told me about all the quote unquote hood hood spots,

882
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: black spots that they have comedy shows. So that's really

883
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: why I started doing all the quote unquote black comedies

884
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: because it was an I could get on stage. I

885
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: can stage at the mainstream room. And then fast forward,

886
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: I started trying to go to l A. Now, so

887
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: now I'm I'm driving up to l A all the

888
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: time from San Diego, and the same thing happened. I

889
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: went to the comedy store. I waited in line three

890
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: or four hours different times to be a paid regular

891
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 1: at the comedy store, and I finally got the showcase

892
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: from its shore and I didn't get picked, so I

893
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: was just like I said, to whatever, and but at

894
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: um I got to meet Guy Tory and then got

895
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: you know, guy got me on a Fat Tuesday again,

896
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: all all the black comics started saying, hey man, you

897
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: can come here, here, here. So I started doing all

898
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: the black night in Hollywood and that's basically what led

899
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: to everything. And then I got on b ET became

900
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: the host, and then the rest is kind of history. Well,

901
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 1: you know, it's really interesting just hearing that story, because,

902
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 1: like I said, you just took advantage of the opportunity

903
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: that were presented to you. Okay, and uh and and

904
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: but more importantly, you took advantage of that you were not.

905
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: You did not see an opportunity to say, well, well

906
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: you know, I'm still trying to get over here to

907
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: be successful. I'm gonna be successful where I'm allowed the

908
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: opportunity to be successful. When you got on b T

909
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 1: you became the host. Was that how much that changed

910
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: your touring money? As they say, your ability to be booked? Well,

911
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: here's this crazy. When I people that remember the old

912
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: comic few days, it was a contest. Remember yeah, I

913
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: know you remember, but it was a contest. And so

914
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: the first year I did it, I just you know,

915
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: they filmed the whole season in a week. They do

916
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 1: like three year five. It was three or five episodes

917
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: every day, money through Friday. So the whole season was

918
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 1: done in a week. So I was still active duty military.

919
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,919
Speaker 1: I was still in the Navy. I took a week's leave,

920
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: drove up to l A and recorded my whole season

921
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: right there. So now, so you're still in the Navy

922
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: and you recorded b tea comic view. Yeah, here's where

923
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: it gets crazy. I'm still active duty. I I go

924
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: up to l A film comic. You come back to

925
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: my base. So now I start to air on TV.

926
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: I'm a cop in the Navy, m massied arms. So

927
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: we on the gate waving cars in. Dude, I'm on

928
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: the gate waving cars in. And some of the brothers

929
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: was like, hey, but did I see you on TV

930
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: last night? So I sat there and then um, and

931
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 1: BT doesn't know I'm in the Navy, and the Navy

932
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: itself doesn't really know I'm, you know, doing the stand

933
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: up thing. And Curtis Gaston, who was the head of

934
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: BT at the time, called me and said, hey, it

935
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: was assistant called Mint and Curtis wants to meet with you.

936
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: I drive up to l A and he Curtis goes,

937
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: we want to make you the host, and I was

938
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: like whoa. So I'm like whoa. I had to go

939
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 1: back to my face and I still had six months

940
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: left on my enlistment, and I was like, um, I

941
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: gotta get out early. I got offered a TV show

942
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 1: and literally they were like, we've heard of some lies,

943
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: but this one's a great one. And so basically, long

944
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: story short is, um BT wasn't. They weren't going to

945
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 1: start film and for another three months, I had six

946
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: months left to my listening. So my command worked with

947
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: me and they finished out that three months working and

948
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: then I drove up to l A. And that's when

949
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: I just moved up there. So there, you know, when

950
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: you say to our money, there really wasn't to our money.

951
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: I wasn't on the road. I was basically just San Diego,

952
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: going up, you know, four or five times a week.

953
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: And then I get out of the Navy. I am

954
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: me going to host and b et and now I'm

955
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: on the road as a stand up. It was like

956
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: it was crazy. I didn't have the the years of

957
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: being on the road, uh, you know, opening up for

958
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: people for no money. I don't I don't have that story.

959
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: But my grind was driving to l A three or

960
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: four times a week at a San Diego Like I

961
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: get off work at four in the Navy, drive up

962
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: to l A for like a ten o'clock spot at

963
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: the Comedy Act theater, and then drive right back because

964
00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: I gotta be at work at six in the morning.

965
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: In our country. You know that that was your grand right.

966
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Speaker 1: And you know driving four hours, two hours up, two

967
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: hours back, four or five days a week in my

968
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: STM pick up um, just like you get five ten

969
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: minutes on stage because I felt like, you know, I

970
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,760
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971
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Speaker 1: your host, Sean McDonald. First of all, you know, I

995
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Speaker 1: my laughter is natural because of the fact you're just

996
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Speaker 1: naturally fronty. I'm just here you talk and you just

997
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Speaker 1: naturally just you know it. Always tell people when you

998
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Speaker 1: become a real comic, you just know how to say

999
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,440
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1003
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: on the road. Now you're getting popular people showing up

1004
00:50:55,320 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 1: to see Gary. How did that feel? Gary? Uh? You

1005
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Speaker 1: know what I always I always knew it was going

1006
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,480
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1007
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,640
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1008
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:15,360
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1009
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,479
Speaker 1: so cocky. I would look around, like, you guys, don't

1010
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: know who's in your class right here? Take pictures, get

1011
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Speaker 1: my autograph. I would don't be saved if you don't

1012
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: do it. I would tell girls you should date me.

1013
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna you should. You know, this is why, this

1014
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: is why I found it so incredible. When I talked

1015
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: to people who get it early, only you got it.

1016
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: You know. I went to college, took me seven years

1017
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: to graduate. Then I work for IBM, and then I

1018
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 1: started doing stand up. You know, I wasted seven valuable

1019
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: years when I could have just at a team. Knew

1020
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: this is what I wanted to do. You know, followed

1021
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: my natural instinct, followed my blessings, and when it did it.

1022
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 1: And that's why when I look at when I listened

1023
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: to your story, it's all it's so, it's so single focus. Okay,

1024
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: I gotta get out of Ohio. I'm gonna use the military.

1025
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: You say that I'm gonna use the military to get

1026
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: out of here. Take me to a city that I

1027
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: can do stand up. Once you realize you can do

1028
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: stand up anywhere, then you guess what. You pursue that opportunity.

1029
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 1: Then you say, I gotta get to l A. Okay,

1030
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna drive. I'm not gonna let somebody stop. I'm

1031
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,479
Speaker 1: not gonna party, I'm not gonna be dating. I gotta

1032
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: I gotta fulfill my dream. You always had a single

1033
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: minded focus man. That that's that's that's a passion that

1034
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 1: is still carrying through today for you. Correct, oh, without question.

1035
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: Because you never reach your goals. I always say, like,

1036
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: if you sell ten thousand tickets, you want to sell

1037
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: a level thousand next time. Um, you went, you wanna

1038
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: win another You're getting the movie. You wanna do another movie.

1039
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: You never reach your goals. The goals change, you know,

1040
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 1: because you first get in the business, you just want

1041
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: to be on the road of the headliner, and then

1042
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 1: you want to sell tickets, and then you want to

1043
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: get the door deal, and you want to move to theaters,

1044
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: and it always changes, but you know, you're you never

1045
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: reach your goal. I guess my goal would be to

1046
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: sell out Earth. You get past COVID. You get that,

1047
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 1: my brother. Now let's let's let's let's talk about let's

1048
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: talk about these specials now because they you know, doing

1049
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,479
Speaker 1: the special is what you want to do. You want

1050
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: to get that special, but did it get it? Takes

1051
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: a home a lot of your key material when you

1052
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 1: do it, because you gotta get your special. You get it.

1053
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: You gotta get on the road to take advantage of

1054
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: all that extra exposure to get those sellouts and those

1055
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 1: door deals. How do you write your material? I don't

1056
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: really write my jokes down. I mean, I'll get on

1057
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: my phone and on my notes, I'll have like a word,

1058
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: but I don't only write my jokes down. It's just

1059
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: I'm on the road to so much that, uh, they're

1060
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: just always in my brain. But I don't really write

1061
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: my jokes down. It's and then, you know, I just

1062
00:53:55,800 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: think your comedy kind of grows with you, uh, with

1063
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 1: you know. I used to talk about Dayton and I

1064
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: got married, and then if we're young and now they're teenagers,

1065
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: now they just graduated. It's just I think it's just

1066
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 1: I just really talk about my life a lot, a lot,

1067
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: as they say, a whole lot. I do know, Gary,

1068
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: I know Gary, reality show. Gary. You you talking about

1069
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: so much you made as a TV show. That's how

1070
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: about you talk about it an open book. You're an

1071
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: open book. Open now, you know, let's take at K

1072
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,479
Speaker 1: into the movies now because I know you have the movie.

1073
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: We're welcome to Southern Death with Michael joh White. Universal

1074
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 1: four Team for the entertainment is the production of Universal

1075
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: Home Entertainment. Now go back in our relationship and think

1076
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: like a man. Think like a man too. I remember

1077
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: Will Packer and who was sitting down Steve Harvey and

1078
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: I and we was going through the casting and then uh,

1079
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: and your name popped up. It was not even a

1080
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: question that you know what you just it was just

1081
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: you was just perfectly made for the movie. And you

1082
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 1: now you're just seriously, you was perfectly made for the movie.

1083
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: And when it became a instant hit, how did that

1084
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: affect your touring dollars? To first thing, like a Man movie. Gary, Well,

1085
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: that that was. That was the time of my career.

1086
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: It was like the perfect store my career. I It's

1087
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: gone in like three segments. It was like I got

1088
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: the wholes in job on b ET and then and

1089
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 1: then I, you know, I had a couple of specials

1090
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: come out, and you know, but when Thinks Like a

1091
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: Man came out in two twelve and we recorded in

1092
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: two thousand eleven. Um, my career was kind of on

1093
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: a hamster wheel. I was doing fine, but it wasn't

1094
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: really going to where the money was the same, you know.

1095
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: And I kind of knew when I went into a

1096
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 1: city how much money I was pulling out. And then um,

1097
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: I knew I made tickets I would sell and it

1098
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: was like this, it's crazy, how this I would say.

1099
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: From two thousand ten to two thousand thirteen, it was

1100
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: a huge jump in my career. There was three things

1101
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: that happened. One, UH Mike Epps had this UH comic

1102
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: show called Live from the Nokia and he asked me

1103
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 1: to be on it, and I got on it and

1104
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: I said, I just had a feeling, um that set

1105
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: was going to do something for me. I don't know why.

1106
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: And it did, and then then the next year, um,

1107
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: Will Packer called No. Six months after I recorded it,

1108
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: Will Packer called me and was like, you know, I

1109
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: got this movie, g Um. He's this white guy that

1110
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:31,959
Speaker 1: can hang out with black guys but not act black

1111
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: and really be able to give and take, like give

1112
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: him ship and then they give and take. And I

1113
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's perfect, and then uh and then

1114
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: like and then I did another special and then it

1115
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: just all that was a big jump in my career

1116
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: as far as like tickets going up and people recognizing

1117
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 1: me and getting more opportunities like in front of the camera. Yeah,

1118
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 1: I always say Will Packer, especially going to bat for

1119
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: me and you guys and the thing like a man franchise.

1120
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: It just came at the time of my career where

1121
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:10,240
Speaker 1: it just went, you know, the I R S was happy.

1122
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: I was just telling you know, you know, like I said,

1123
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: you know, you have to be ready for those moments, Gary,

1124
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: and you was ready for those moments. And that's why

1125
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: that's why I appreciated the storytelling that you're doing and

1126
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: doing this interview. Everything is like so fresh and so

1127
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: vivid in your mind because you still you live in

1128
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: your what you wanted to do all your life, and

1129
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: so it's not even like another thought. You know, I

1130
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: didn't want to be a scientist. You know, I was

1131
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: in the Navy, but that wasn't a career move for me. Okay,

1132
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: that wasn't. That was just an opportunity to get to

1133
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: my dream. And I think that's really impressive. And when

1134
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,439
Speaker 1: I when I look at the movie that I saw,

1135
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: Welcome to Southern Death with Michael joh White. Okay, now

1136
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: you're you're the comedy relief in this movie. Okay, So

1137
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: when people tell you that and you're given a script,

1138
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: what runs through your minds? The additional pressure that you

1139
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: because you know it's a serious, you know, terrorists driven

1140
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: movie where this basketball arena and the the owner of

1141
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: the arena is captured and people are being ludgend and

1142
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: killed backstage and nobody knows about it. Out of all this,

1143
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: you gotta be funny. Is that pressure? Yeah? Well, let

1144
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: me tell you what's crazy about this whole movie and

1145
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: how I got it. And you always hear the notion

1146
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: there's no small part um in this business. Your whole

1147
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: career on this interview have been crazy, and so you

1148
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: can use the word crazy but it really kind of

1149
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: like kind of like it's the exclamation mark of everything

1150
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: that happened in your life. My thing about you is

1151
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: that when you give an opportunity to dude, you go

1152
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: for That's what I give you, and I give you

1153
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: credit for that. Man, that's following your passion with with

1154
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: with credibility and and and an absolute focus. You're amazing, dude.

1155
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: I gotta give you love on that one. Brother, Yeah,

1156
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. But this is how, this is how

1157
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: Welcome the Sun Death came about for me. I did

1158
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: a movie called to Cover Brother Too. Absolutely yeah, it's

1159
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: on Netflix now. Me and Michael G. White. We only

1160
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 1: had one day together shooting like one day, and I

1161
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: didn't really have any lines. I just had I just

1162
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: had to give Mike a face in the movie. And

1163
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: he kept cracking while we're filming. He kept going, I

1164
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: can't look at this guy without laughing. And so so

1165
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: we you know, met small talk, nothing crazy. All of

1166
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: a sudden, he d MS me like four or five

1167
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: months later and said, hey, man, I'm getting ready to

1168
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: this movie. Um, can I send you the script or

1169
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: can you call me to discuss it? So I called

1170
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: him and he was he pitches the movie to me

1171
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: and he goes, Dude, I really I really want you

1172
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: on this movie. And here I am. I'm like, Okay,

1173
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 1: he calling you telling you he really want you on

1174
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: this movie, right, Michael White is so, what time attitude

1175
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: do you have? Gary? You can like, is he kidding me?

1176
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: You know, Mike, Mike can want to b F Mike,

1177
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: you want to be f you know? And and I'm

1178
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: glad it was on the phone because you can't say

1179
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: no to By the way, but I knew I was

1180
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: gonna I didn't have to read the script. He was

1181
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna saying to the script and let me know

1182
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: if you want to do it. I already knew I

1183
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: was gonna say. Yeah, I already knew it. Um So

1184
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: I read it and then, like I said, it wasn't

1185
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: a lot of funny parts in it like that, and

1186
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 1: he just said, you know, I just want you to

1187
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: be you making yours. I called, I talked to the director.

1188
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: We had lunch. He gave me, you know, he gave

1189
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: me his blessing, like, dude, make it yours, make it funny.

1190
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: We'll do We'll do it take according to the script.

1191
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: But we're gonna do takes where you can just do

1192
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: what you want. And the cool part about this movie

1193
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: is every day when you sit in the makeup trailer,

1194
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: and usually when you're in the makeup trailer it's early,

1195
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, your energy is low and you're just trying

1196
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: to you know, you kind of in the script by yourself.

1197
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: Every time me and Michael had a scene together, which

1198
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 1: most of our scenes were together, because it's like it's

1199
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: like a buddy, it's like a rush out, and and

1200
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 1: he always would like sit back and we read lines

1201
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: together and we go over the scene. And so by

1202
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: the time we went to shoot and block, we had

1203
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: our own version. And give all credit to Dallas Jackson,

1204
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: the director. He was like, yeah, let's do it. And

1205
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: even Mike said, he goes, I'm telling him. I go,

1206
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: I go, hey, I thank them, like, dude, thanks for um,

1207
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 1: thanks for giving me some leeway and doing this. And

1208
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: he goes, he's not because I'm just happy I can.

1209
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: I'm giving you suggestions on jokes and you're using them.

1210
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, I didn't think about that. So it was

1211
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: crazy because Mike's mind, he was like, yo, I can't

1212
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: believe Gario One just used one of my jokes. It

1213
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 1: was it was his movie. So I was like, yeah,

1214
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: let me. I like to be collaborative, so I was like, yeah,

1215
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: you know, the character and everything. So it was just

1216
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 1: it was so fun work with him, and and you know,

1217
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: to just to be wanted like that. I never had

1218
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: that experience to be a lead. I mean, yeah, I

1219
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 1: think Like a Man was great, but that was such

1220
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: a big ensemble and there were so make of it.

1221
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: But just the fact that everyone in the business, Mike

1222
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: was like, yo, I want Gary, and he really fought

1223
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: for me to be in the movie. Well, you know,

1224
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: and if it looked everybody know, first of it's a

1225
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 1: really good movie, and you're very funny, and Michael's very athletic,

1226
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 1: and he kicks. But I'm trying to figure out how

1227
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: this guy is killed kicking but looking the way he's

1228
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 1: looking at his age, but he looked amazing. He looks

1229
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 1: very limber, as they say. But it really is a

1230
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: starring role for you, and it's because of the fact

1231
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 1: that you're more than just the commedy relief. They come

1232
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 1: to you and strategic moments in the movie to move

1233
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 1: the story along, and that's what that's that's when it becomes.

1234
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: They've really given me an opportunity because you blow that movie.

1235
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: The story alone part doesn't have credibility, and then guess what,

1236
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 1: the story doesn't flow, and the story does flow. It's

1237
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 1: a really really good movie. Yeah, Yeah, I'm excited, man,

1238
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: I'm excited. It's coming out on September twenty nine, available

1239
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: on digital and DVD and Blu Ray. Welcome to Southern Death,

1240
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 1: Gary and Netflix as well. You know Dallas Jackson's director

1241
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: starting my man, Michael John Wright. Uh, Garrett, thank you

1242
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 1: for the time. Man, this is really hopefully on mind

1243
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: coming back on the show again. The first time I've

1244
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 1: talked to you in personal. I've seen you and we

1245
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 1: met each other many times to the side and shook

1246
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,959
Speaker 1: hand adapt But you're really special, man, and I really

1247
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: respect what you've accomplished and will accomplished in this business

1248
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: and keep winning. Anytime you want to promote anything in

1249
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: your podcast, I got a million social media follows, I

1250
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: got a a fan email, fan list of every wins

1251
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 1: that's send out like ninety thousand social media I mean

1252
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 1: fan club followers. I'll promote your brother, T shirts, face mask,

1253
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:45,360
Speaker 1: whatever you got. When you come to time, let me

1254
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 1: know Okay, I appreciate you man, Thank you all right.

1255
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 1: My next guest never thought she's become an entrepreneur, but

1256
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 1: once she had an idea, she put together playing together

1257
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 1: and set a budget and went forward. She never she

1258
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: has never looked back. Uh, my guests invented the Prima fabric,

1259
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 1: which is antibacterial sweat don't smell fabric. She launched a

1260
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 1: sale which I had to be a part of. We're

1261
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 1: gonna talk about that in the middle of the interview.

1262
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: She likened to sell lifestyle in augusteen with men's and

1263
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 1: men and women's shirts made out of this preparatory fabric.

1264
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: She always basically, she always knew there wouldn't have gonna

1265
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 1: be more applications for the fabric, but you always want

1266
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 1: to launch with jewelry that original line day. You always

1267
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: want to put your work into the idea. Make sure

1268
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Speaker 1: that don't just jump out there. I got a thousand ideas.

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01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 1: She focused on that one idea, and when there a

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01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 1: pandemic hit man, old man, did she pivot. Her company

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Speaker 1: has sold with four hundred thousand facial masks during the pandemic.

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01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 1: She's only show to talk about her making that right

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01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 1: business decision. At the right time, during the pandemic and

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01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 1: before the pandemic. Please work with the money making conversations.

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Speaker 1: My different I call it different. I've been known this

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Speaker 1: twenty seven I remember when I say I'm a one

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Speaker 1: of I remember when friends, Okay, please work on Megan Edding, Sean,

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01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. We over here smiling. You're right,

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01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 1: I mean we are friends. And yeahs when I first

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01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: officially met you for the first business competition I ever entered,

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01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 1: and a friendship was born pretty much that day. Absolutely,

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01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 1: and you want it, by the way, let's go and

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01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 1: let's go and add the other part of that. I

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01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: believe they the winning first problem was like what ten

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars something like that. It was ten thousand dollars. Yeah,

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01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: we want Mayor Turner has a new business competition here

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01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 1: in Houston, and I want Houston's best new product and

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01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: uh fan favorite and ten thousand dollars, which Lord knows

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01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 1: I needed. Well, we all need money, and we all

1290
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: need money to start a business. And what when you

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01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 1: want it? What was your first thought? Because you get

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01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: in the competition, there's a while. I have a good idea.

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01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: What was the whole process of preparing for that competition.

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01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 1: As we evolved to move involved into as you are

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01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 1: now a multi tiered business. That is really uh. I

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01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: guess one could say saw the facial mass market before

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01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 1: a lot of people saw the facial mass market because

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01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,720
Speaker 1: it is a global industry now. But you stepped in

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01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 1: with a pate fabricate that that works now and I

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01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 1: also feel makes people feel safe now as well. But

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01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 1: let's talk about it. In the beginning of twenty seventeen,

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01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: you entered this contest, first flight of ten thousand dollars.

1303
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 1: I was hosting it Mayris Invester Turner was tired to

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01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 1: had other people who were success stories as judges on

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01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 1: the panel talk about that whole experience. Yeah, it was wild.

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01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 1: Well that's that new business competition in seventeen. Um. I

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01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 1: my fabric wasn't even like I didn't even submit it

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01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: to get patented yet. I was still in the design phase,

1309
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 1: like working on it for about a year. But I saw,

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01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 1: you know, let's go into this competition, because not only

1311
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,080
Speaker 1: is there a competition which I love to win, you

1312
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 1: actually learned a lot. I've never owned a business before,

1313
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: so you have to attend, you know, all these classes

1314
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 1: every two weeks um you have to apply to get

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01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 1: into the competition, and so the learning experience of just

1316
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 1: how to start your own company was amazing and just

1317
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 1: obviously the connections that I need. Uh, But it's interesting

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01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 1: that was the first one I ever entered. And the

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01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: word that I really started carrying around after that competition

1320
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 1: was confidence. Because all my close circle, my friends, my family,

1321
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: you know, people that I know, they've made great idea,

1322
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:16,880
Speaker 1: great idea. But this was the panel of people I

1323
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 1: didn't even know that shows me his first place for

1324
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 1: my products. So I thought, Okay, I'm onto something. And

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01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: that's when like I was really like confident. After that,

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01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 1: I just keep going for it. Well, you know, the

1327
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 1: thing about it is that I can remember I was

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01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 1: the judge. I was not judge. I was one of

1329
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 1: the hosts, and I got to see everybody's presentation. So

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01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised that you want because you were you

1331
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 1: were introducing the concept, Uh there was I felt ahead

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01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: of his time. Who doesn't who doesn't twit? And to

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01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 1: go wow and lift up their arm and go that's

1334
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 1: pretty bad. I don't want anybody hugging me today. And

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01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 1: and you were introducing the fabric that I felt people

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01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 1: needed and people would wear. And so fast forward from seventeen,

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01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 1: then you launched, actually launched your product and the name

1338
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 1: was A sale. How did you come up with the

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01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: name of sale? A C C E L A C

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01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 1: C E L L right e L A C C

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01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: E L and then lifestyle And yeah, it comes from

1342
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 1: So chemistry is my background, and my husband he's not

1343
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 1: like legally part of the business, but he's married, so

1344
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:22,560
Speaker 1: we're married. Therefore he kind of part of the clothing

1345
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: to come out in the video news that's right, Yeah,

1346
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: that was yeah exactly. Let's just say he's not on

1347
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 1: the LLC, but he's definitely you know, part of the team. Um.

1348
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 1: But so he majored in physics, that's his background. Literally,

1349
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 1: were just sitting on the couch and I wanted to

1350
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 1: think of a word to name the company that definitely

1351
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 1: had like a science kind of science feel because of

1352
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: course it is prepared proprietary fabric. But I also wanted

1353
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 1: to be a word that was positive, like a positive, empowering,

1354
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 1: empowering feel as well. So we just and this didn't

1355
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: just happened one night. Basically, you know, wrote out eighty

1356
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 1: words roughly and kind of went through and excel was

1357
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 1: short for the word accelerates. So accelerates obviously, like you know,

1358
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,919
Speaker 1: kind of like a physics science word. And then um

1359
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 1: short to excel and just like accelerate your life, your health,

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01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 1: your happiness, giving back, you know, all that positive stuff.

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01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 1: UM is what the word excel represents. And it really

1362
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 1: because I remember that when it was launched. I remember

1363
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 1: I was part of your little brain trust. You had

1364
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 1: little quotes, ideas reach what do you think about this?

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01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 1: What about? What do you think about this? And I

1366
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 1: throw back ideas and you know, because that's what you

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01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 1: have to do. You can't be the smartest person in

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01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 1: the room. And and you have to have people who

1369
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 1: are not trying to invest that I try to. If

1370
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 1: I give you the idea, you're only five percent, or

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01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 1: you'll be a hundred dollars. You have to have people

1372
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 1: just believe in you so much they're willing to help

1373
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 1: you out. And that's or mentors that are professionals who

1374
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 1: understand the value of relationships and partnerships. That that's nothing

1375
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with equity. It's about supporting someone.

1376
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 1: So you have a very strong support group. Tell us

1377
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 1: about it. I do I I say, like, I've you know,

1378
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 1: excelled then successfully and I work my it off, but

1379
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 1: I also know what my skill sets are and are not.

1380
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 1: And I am super blessed and we're showing you're part

1381
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 1: of that circle. I mean, like the amount of people

1382
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,799
Speaker 1: that I never knew before I started this entrepreneurial journey

1383
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 1: that have since come forward, you know, and then I

1384
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: just met on this journey that have given me advice

1385
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 1: and you know, their expertise and you know, some of

1386
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,679
Speaker 1: this kind of hard to hear, but that those people

1387
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 1: I want to listen to. Um, it's just been unbelievable.

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01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 1: The relationships that I have forms both on a friendship

1389
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 1: level and on a business level with just people with

1390
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 1: these awesome expertise is that I don't have, and they've

1391
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 1: just been willing to share and tell us about about

1392
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 1: your the padnit product that you brought to the just

1393
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 1: to the stage. I want to make sure before we

1394
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 1: get into the mass, let's talk about that product that

1395
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 1: you pad Yeah, actually point how it's going to lead

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01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 1: into the mass. So basically, my husband and I we

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01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: got married five years ago. He's into fitness. We've always

1398
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 1: been into fitness. I live in Houston. Everyone's sweating all

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01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 1: the time, even in the dead of winter, as you know.

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01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 1: And so we got married. I'm like, man, started doing

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01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 1: his laundry. You know, not that I don't do all

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01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 1: the quote unquote wifely duties, but I was doing his laundry.

1403
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 1: Mind you, he does, he does, He does his own.

1404
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 1: Now put that out there. But um, and I was like, man,

1405
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, these workout clothes still stink. And I have

1406
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 1: brothers back home in Rhode Island, so we all kind

1407
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 1: of know that smell like when the when the you know,

1408
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 1: the kind of musty, mildewy like bo smell that you

1409
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 1: just can't seem to wash out. And so I never

1410
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:25,320
Speaker 1: thought I'd be an entrepreneur, but you know, chemistry is

1411
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: my background, and so I just kind of put my

1412
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 1: science hat back on and started figuring out why you're

1413
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: clothes stink. And to make a long story short, your

1414
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 1: clothes stink because bacteria gets trapped in the fabric. So

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01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: I was launching my company last year basically, I was like,

1416
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:41,600
Speaker 1: all right, you sweat as much as you want and

1417
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: it won't smell and it's anti bacterial and it's funny.

1418
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:47,920
Speaker 1: No one and I tried in marketing, and I'm putting

1419
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 1: it out there. I'm like, you know, I'm just gonna

1420
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 1: focus on the you know, the sweb don't smell because

1421
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 1: the anti bacterial. I'm not doing a good job, you know,

1422
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 1: getting that out there on what that really means. It's

1423
01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 1: actually disgusting that your clothes are holding onto back here. Yeah,

1424
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 1: but no one really seems to care about that aspect

1425
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 1: until much m m m m m m m m.

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01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 1: March of here is the key for me in my

1427
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:18,439
Speaker 1: relationship with Megan. I'm watching TV. I live in Houston.

1428
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 1: I tell people a long time, I also live in Atlanta,

1429
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 1: and so I'm watching the local news and there is

1430
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 1: a commercial and I tell my I said, I know her.

1431
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:30,600
Speaker 1: I know her. That's that's Magan on my showy Main Confessation.

1432
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 1: And they're discussing how you was now suddenly going to

1433
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 1: manufacture mask of a need. And I believe I text

1434
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 1: you as a girl, you're owning something You're about to

1435
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 1: blow up. First of all, you were magnetic, you know,

1436
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 1: you're You're just amazing. During the interview, you you know,

1437
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: you know how to articulate in a very comfortable manner,

1438
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 1: who you are and what you're trying to do. You

1439
01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 1: have a high degree of sincerity. All those qualities make

1440
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 1: sense when you're trying to launch a new product, especially

1441
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 1: when people didn't really understand the need to wear a

1442
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 1: mask because White House was sending out mixed signals and

1443
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 1: Texas you know, you know, we're in the don't mess

1444
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 1: with Texas state where they can't get mad if you're

1445
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 1: tell them what to do. And then so, but you

1446
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 1: said I'm gonna do this. What what what triggered you? What? What?

1447
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: What triggered you? And what triggered you to do it? Right?

1448
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 1: Because there was some other people who tried to do

1449
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 1: the mask, then they ship stuff out there, then people

1450
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 1: already fifteen mask and then they out they sold out.

1451
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 1: What made you make a full commitment to it? Let's talk.

1452
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 1: You know, I'm wanna I wasn't an dred cent. Sure

1453
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 1: it was gonna work, but it just it felt right.

1454
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 1: I prayed about it. I mean basically, March twentie was

1455
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 1: a Friday. I woke up just like any other day.

1456
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 1: I go to my couch, you know, working from home

1457
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 1: at the time. Started working in my consultant in New Jersey.

1458
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 1: She's like, hey, Meg, um, you know, she's up in

1459
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 1: the point you Jersey, New York with She's like, yeah,

1460
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 1: she's like mad, She's like healthcare workers and her sisters

1461
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 1: a nurse, and she's like, health care workers are running

1462
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: out of face masks? What about turning your prema fabric

1463
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 1: into face masks? And immediately when she said I remember

1464
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 1: the feeling. Immediately when she said it, I'm like, holy,

1465
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 1: you know what. You know? It was always important to

1466
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 1: me to have this fabric source that made here in

1467
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 1: the States. So I had a bunch of fabric here

1468
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 1: in Houston, and I had a bunch of fabric out

1469
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 1: in my factory in l A. I knew nothing about

1470
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 1: a pattern for a face mask, but I figured like, okay,

1471
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 1: we can figure it out. So I just kind of

1472
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 1: went balls to the wall because it felt right, And

1473
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 1: within twenty four hours we had a prototype. I had

1474
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 1: twenty five local sewers lined up in Houston because I

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01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 1: already had fabric here. Uh. And then Monday morning, like

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01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 1: three days later, I went to all the hospitals in

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01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 1: the Houston Medical Center and dropped off samples of our

1478
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 1: masks and then crickets, I'm telling you, crickets for like

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01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 1: four days. Um, none of the I thought the hospital

1480
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 1: is gonna be so excited, which they were excited, but

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01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 1: no one was like placing in order. So I told

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01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 1: all my local sewers and like, hey, don't start sewing

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01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 1: anything yet, because as a business owner, the last thing

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01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:57,640
Speaker 1: you want to have is inventory. You know that there

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01:14:57,720 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 1: might have been a fluke about masks, and like, we're

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01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 1: gonna sit on the fabric until somebody places a large

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01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 1: order and fast forwards. Like four am Thursday morning, no

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01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 1: one has placed an order yet. I tell you, something

1489
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:11,680
Speaker 1: woke me up in the middle of the night at

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01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 1: four am. And I call it God. People call it

1491
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:18,600
Speaker 1: whatever they want, and all it said is start making masks.

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01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 1: And I woke up that morning we knew over My

1493
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 1: husband said, I know, we haven't got an order yet,

1494
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 1: but I just heard from God to start making masks.

1495
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 1: So we're starting making mask today. He's like you sure,

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01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm like one. I told my mom. I told my team, like, Megan,

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01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 1: are you sure it was just a big inventory investment,

1498
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 1: you know whatever. I'm like, no, We're doing it. It It

1499
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:37,639
Speaker 1: was crystal clear. The next day we got an order

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Speaker 1: for nine thousand mass from Houston Methodist and fourteen thousand

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01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 1: mass from a local company, and after that it was

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01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 1: just it was we just we just scaled quickly. And

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01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 1: I think I think you reached out. I reached out

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01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 1: to you, and then I dropped your mask, uh in

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01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 1: my newsletter. Well you did. Yeah, I went out like

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01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 1: ninety of my fan club members and then you and

1507
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: you were so excited you put it into your LinkedIn feed.

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01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 1: I did, I did. I yeah. I mean I love Rashan.

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Speaker 1: I love supporting you since day one, and you support

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Speaker 1: you know, we just support each other. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: in our community, and we believe that, you know, everyone

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Speaker 1: can be successful and you've got to like support them,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, I just go for but yeah, I guess.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny that picture that you posted, so of

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Speaker 1: was taken in my bedroom with my husband. We did

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Speaker 1: a selfie and then kind of like try to like

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Speaker 1: back to money making conversations um your host Sean McDonald.

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01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: This is what I love about you a general. I

1543
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 1: just love your personality. Anytime I can just text you

1544
01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 1: something like and said, what when I saw your TV,

1545
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 1: I went, girl, you're about to blow up. This is amazing.

1546
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 1: You better get ready, I hope. So I said, no,

1547
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. You're about the ride. I'm a promoter.

1548
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:59,240
Speaker 1: I know what I see greatness. I know when I

1549
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 1: see something that feels good, it feels needy and sincerity

1550
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 1: and everything was just timing and sself just right. But

1551
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 1: the key in this conversation was that Richard I was

1552
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 1: based in Houston. The information I got to move forward

1553
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 1: came from another part of the country, in the New

1554
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:19,640
Speaker 1: York New Jersey area. If you was waiting to make

1555
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:23,000
Speaker 1: a decision in New in Houston, that may have never happened,

1556
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:27,639
Speaker 1: but you followed the information source, and the information source said, hey,

1557
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:31,120
Speaker 1: it might not be bad as it is, well you

1558
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 1: think it is, but in New York we're on fire

1559
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:38,720
Speaker 1: with COVID running out of everything, mass ventilators, everything. And

1560
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 1: then you had to follow up on your willingness to

1561
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 1: trust yourself. That's when you woke up and said, I

1562
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:49,680
Speaker 1: feel the time is right and then it was it

1563
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 1: just took off when you when you use when you

1564
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 1: say the word took off one day. That's why when

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01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 1: I sent there, when I when you sent me that order,

1566
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 1: I just told my staff, I said, make up some

1567
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 1: type of make up, some type of ad. Let's put

1568
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 1: it in the news to make it look good. And

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01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 1: it was the most click It was at the bottom

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01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 1: of the newsletter. It was and my newsletters alone, if

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01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 1: anybody's registered for money making Conversation dot com, the fan close.

1572
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:12,799
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, And and she was at the bottom,

1573
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 1: not because I wanted to put it at the bottom.

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01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 1: She was the most clicked item in the newsletter, the

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01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 1: most clicked in the newsletter. And so that let me know,

1576
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 1: right there, I went, she's on the something. She's at

1577
01:19:24,160 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 1: the bottom at the newsletter. And people are gonna way

1578
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 1: down there because of the good content. But when they

1579
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 1: get down there, they go click click click, And then

1580
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 1: you start different packages. And and I remember said you

1581
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 1: need to put some logos or something. When we shot,

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01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 1: let me try to. I gotta let me, let me

1583
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 1: work on this problem, let me let me get the mask.

1584
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:48,960
Speaker 1: Well you start, we just shut up, shut up, And

1585
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 1: then you came back with Shawn, I got the logo,

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01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 1: I got the kids. We got the logo, we got

1587
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:58,679
Speaker 1: the kids. The last Friday, one hundred thousand, literally fifty thousand,

1588
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 1: fifty black labels showed up for us to sew onto

1589
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 1: our masks. Wow. So now now this is such a journey. Now,

1590
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 1: one of the questions that how do you go from

1591
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 1: selling T shirts and tank tops to sell them over

1592
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:13,600
Speaker 1: four hundred thousand face masks and being on contract with

1593
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,920
Speaker 1: the Marines, U S, Navy and Navy Seals. Tell us

1594
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 1: about that, you know, the process was actually the exact same.

1595
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 1: So because I had already gone through the process from

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01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:25,680
Speaker 1: making a T shirt and the patterns and you know,

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01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 1: sewing and understanding you know enough to be dangerous with

1598
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 1: all that, actually creating the masks wasn't that difficult? Um?

1599
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 1: The one word that I have and how does this happen?

1600
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:41,560
Speaker 1: How does this happened? You know, is relationships literally relationships

1601
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 1: like the new like over a hundred thousand of our

1602
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:46,799
Speaker 1: masks have been already sold and shipped to the Marines,

1603
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 1: the Navy Seals in the Navy, and now we're actually

1604
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 1: working on custom clothing for the Navy Seals using my

1605
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 1: fabrics because of this. And the only way that happened

1606
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:58,320
Speaker 1: is I'm on some business group here in Houston, and

1607
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 1: one of the ladies in the groups super not. She

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01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 1: volunteers her time and mentors people in the military, I mean,

1609
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 1: And so she hit me up, like, you know, weeks

1610
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 1: three of Corona. She said, Hey, a buddy of mine

1611
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 1: and the Navy supply chain guy looking for face masks.

1612
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 1: They can't find any. Can you take care of him?

1613
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, you know, let me know. And

1614
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 1: at this point I don't I don't need shifted out

1615
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 1: like twenty masks, and he's like, yeah, we need fifty

1616
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 1: thousand face masks in the next seven days. I'm like, okay,

1617
01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 1: let me mix some phone calls. So I had fifty

1618
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:28,720
Speaker 1: thousand face masks shipped to him in the next six days. Um.

1619
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 1: And then that's just spread like wild, you know fires

1620
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:34,600
Speaker 1: throughout the military. And that's how we got the other contracts. Um.

1621
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:37,679
Speaker 1: But yeah, now we're talking about you know, isolation gowns, gloves,

1622
01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 1: like all sorts of ppe that the military just can't

1623
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 1: seem to get. But because I was able to deliver

1624
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 1: and deliver early in quality products for the masks, early on.

1625
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 1: Now my foot from the door. It's been nuts. It's

1626
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:55,839
Speaker 1: then I'm even talking about like, yeah, you know, okay,

1627
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 1: I'm amazed you're talking to me today during this interview.

1628
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 1: I know, I feel blessed that I'm actually allowed being

1629
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 1: allowed to hear your story. So it's always a pleasure

1630
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:08,920
Speaker 1: talking to when you know, when you guys reached out

1631
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 1: and I'm like, heck, yeah, let's get it on the calendar. Yes, please,

1632
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 1: thank you. And so just so, now, what makes your

1633
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 1: mass work? We have a lot of competition out there.

1634
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 1: Where do you feel makes your mask work? And and

1635
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:24,799
Speaker 1: why do you because you now you have for children,

1636
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 1: you have masks for children. So there's a difference between

1637
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:29,840
Speaker 1: a mask when adult and a mask for a child.

1638
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, what what what do people come back to

1639
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:38,520
Speaker 1: you and say about your mask? Breathable? It's funny, so antibacterials.

1640
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 1: The reason people are really buying it just because it

1641
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 1: is a cleaner fabric. But then the feedback that I'm

1642
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 1: getting that compared to other masks, is breathable. A lot

1643
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:50,640
Speaker 1: of masks out there today, especially in the summertime, or

1644
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 1: if you're a teachering at to wear a mask all

1645
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 1: day or if you're at work, it's just not breathable.

1646
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 1: Your face gets really hot and sways. But not only

1647
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 1: are antibacterial, even after you wash it, you know, it's reusable,

1648
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:04,599
Speaker 1: Even after you wash it a hundred times, it's still

1649
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 1: anti bacterial. No bacteri is going to get in that fabric,

1650
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 1: so it's clean. It protects you from corona as long

1651
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 1: as you're wearing the mask, and then breathable. Um. We

1652
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 1: started with adult mass as you know, and then people

1653
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 1: kept reaching out for kids, and I just thought, oh,

1654
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 1: you know, if if there's a consumer there that the

1655
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 1: credit cards working, I'll create anything. And with my morals

1656
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:28,200
Speaker 1: and ethics, we then, you know, we then launched some

1657
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 1: kids maths and yeah, it's just a cleaner, safer option

1658
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:35,559
Speaker 1: than a lot of masks that are out there today.

1659
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 1: You know, you know, because you know, I always go

1660
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:39,560
Speaker 1: to your probably a couple of times a month. I

1661
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 1: always go to your timeline just to see what good

1662
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 1: you're doing in the community. Because that's what I really

1663
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 1: do love about you, Megan, is that you get back

1664
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 1: and you know, your success is not something to translate

1665
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 1: into a selfish option of how much I can do

1666
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 1: for myself, but I've seen you donate mask and I

1667
01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 1: don't want to give your story. Tell us something good

1668
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 1: that being sick, tessful, being able to pivot in the

1669
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:06,240
Speaker 1: pandemic and sale mass. You've not forgotten about helping other people.

1670
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 1: Tell us about that side of you. Yeah, thank you.

1671
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:10,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's and that's the thing, like you know,

1672
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 1: to grow us. It's a business and then it's successful.

1673
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 1: I mean whatever someone deems that successful and then be

1674
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: able to give back on a greater scale. That's the

1675
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 1: stuff that gets me going. Um, I love it. So

1676
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 1: I let's see, we've donated thousands of masks to homeless shelters,

1677
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 1: to hospitals, um to police. Basically, what I did is,

1678
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:30,720
Speaker 1: at the time I had eight people. I more now,

1679
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 1: but there were eight people working for me full time,

1680
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 1: and so I gave them all like a whole week.

1681
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 1: I had them individually patched pack every single mask, and

1682
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 1: then they were tasked over the next few days to

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01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 1: choose any nonprofit they wanted to give those masks too.

1684
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 1: I said, But the key is it has to be

1685
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 1: someone that could really use it. I mean, like this

1686
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 1: could be like life changing for their industry, for their health, etcetera.

1687
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:55,639
Speaker 1: So to see people, you know, and I empowered them

1688
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 1: my team to go out and I didn't just tell

1689
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 1: them like, yo, here's a nonprofit I want to donate to.

1690
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 1: I did my own, but it was wonderful to see

1691
01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 1: the team build it like like empower them to go

1692
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 1: out and give back. Um. I started a scholarship on

1693
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 1: Born and Raised. As you know, Rhode Island. It's a

1694
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 1: very small town. And I remember when I was in

1695
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 1: high school, I got a like a CVS scholarship for

1696
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 1: five hundred bucks, and I will never forget it. It It

1697
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:19,759
Speaker 1: was like it was like I want a million dollars,

1698
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 1: like five hundred bucks on like holy smokes. And so

1699
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 1: I formed to Excel Lifestyle Scholarships that I'll do every year.

1700
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 1: Um God willing forred Bucks for a young female, Bucks

1701
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 1: for young male. And the two stipulations are they have

1702
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:36,639
Speaker 1: to be going to school for something in the science,

1703
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 1: mass technology, or engineering, and they have to have a

1704
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 1: passion for giving back. So it was really cool that, uh,

1705
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 1: you know, this is the first year I was able

1706
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 1: to give a scholarship to to you know, deserving you know,

1707
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:50,479
Speaker 1: young adults, and you know, just to see how that

1708
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 1: made them, you know, feel and hopefully lessen their stress

1709
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:55,599
Speaker 1: level as they go into college. Well, we know where.

1710
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 1: I have an endowment at the University of Houston, and

1711
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:03,639
Speaker 1: I know that hundred dollars. It's cool, but it really

1712
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 1: doesn't do anything for you. You know, when you start

1713
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 1: getting into that number that you're trying to do. It

1714
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:11,680
Speaker 1: makes a difference for a student. And I'm not slamming anybody.

1715
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that every little bit helps. Let's let's

1716
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 1: put it that with and uh and for you to

1717
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 1: take your time and remember and uh coming from that

1718
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 1: big old state of rural island. Yeah, you know when

1719
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:26,680
Speaker 1: when you think about it, you know because uh, the

1720
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 1: University of Virginia, that's when you went to college there, right,

1721
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:34,600
Speaker 1: and chemistry, what's your degree plan? And so you go

1722
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 1: to Houston and you're living down there, you just every

1723
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:41,479
Speaker 1: day nine to five person, never even thought about being

1724
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, and now you are a not on an entrepreneur,

1725
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:50,520
Speaker 1: but you are an empowered female entrepreneur. Your leader responsibility

1726
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:57,480
Speaker 1: comes with that. Megan, two, that's a good question. What responsibility.

1727
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 1: So there's a responsibility I put on myself, and then

1728
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 1: there's probably the perceived responsibility that I'm expecting from the

1729
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 1: culture and community or whatever. So I would say the

1730
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:11,360
Speaker 1: biggest responsibility that I've ever been asked that question before,

1731
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 1: good question, Rashan, and I got to make sure that

1732
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 1: what I got to make sure the biggest responsible is

1733
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 1: probably you know, besides business, you know, make sure the

1734
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 1: cash flows their inventory dot dot dot. On a global perspective,

1735
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 1: the biggest responsibility I have is that what I'm out

1736
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:28,799
Speaker 1: there saying I'm trying to do with my company to empower,

1737
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 1: to motivate, to encourage, no matter what the product is

1738
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 1: I'm selling, is that everyone on my team feels that,

1739
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 1: and that my at that the customers and the community

1740
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:40,360
Speaker 1: of my company feel that as well. So people can

1741
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:42,680
Speaker 1: say things all day long like I'm to have a

1742
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:44,760
Speaker 1: company that's you know, doing good for the community and

1743
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 1: positive and uplifting. But if I don't live that life

1744
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:50,639
Speaker 1: on a daily basis, and that's the way my team

1745
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 1: and I project our mission of our company, that that

1746
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 1: I'm not doing my jobs, I say that's the biggest

1747
01:27:55,439 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 1: responsibility that I put on myself period. And the reason

1748
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:02,599
Speaker 1: I say that because the reason I say that because

1749
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:05,679
Speaker 1: you know, as as a we live in the era

1750
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 1: of disbelief. No, that's not true. She can do that.

1751
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 1: You know, attractive person, You're small, and some people tend

1752
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 1: to want to believe. You know, people who look a

1753
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 1: certain way can't accomplish certain things. And and you're doing it.

1754
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 1: You're doing it. You're the own way. You still putting

1755
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 1: family first, you did putting God first. You still have

1756
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 1: a clear understandable community. Be responsible to the community is

1757
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 1: important you. I'm speaking to Megan eating. She has an

1758
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 1: incredible fabric sweat. Don't smell fabric that is uh. I

1759
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 1: like to say, turn to face facial mass businic upside down.

1760
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 1: Because you're wanted the first independent. Like I said, the

1761
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:44,560
Speaker 1: big corporations are in it now, okay, Nike, anybody who's

1762
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 1: they're all out there. You see you see commercials on TV.

1763
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:49,639
Speaker 1: You go your ads in the TV. But I call

1764
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 1: you an independent. You wanted the people or a local

1765
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 1: independent who's competing with these big boys who have commercials

1766
01:28:57,320 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 1: of programmatic social media ads, ads on TV, print ads.

1767
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 1: So you expect them to win with that, you know.

1768
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:09,559
Speaker 1: And it's really funny because you came in the athletic field.

1769
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 1: What you already knew that that lifestyle where I was

1770
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 1: going to be competitive, and you came in basically behind

1771
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 1: because they all got the shell's field. They already out

1772
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 1: in the front of the homeline. You're trying to tell everybody,

1773
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 1: So you were, uh, the pandemic allowed you to pivot

1774
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 1: into an industry where your tenacity, your hard work, your

1775
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:32,799
Speaker 1: innovative thought process kind of started at the same time.

1776
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:35,919
Speaker 1: So it really gave you a feeling that you can compete,

1777
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 1: not saying you weren't competing when you was out there

1778
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:40,720
Speaker 1: with the lifestyle, but being able to start out the

1779
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:43,160
Speaker 1: gate and everybody said go at the same time, it

1780
01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 1: really gave you an opportunity, opportunity to really show your skifts,

1781
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 1: your the God gave you. Correct you are exactly right.

1782
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 1: And so I always like, Lega, how did you get

1783
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:54,840
Speaker 1: with the mask? You know, you know the bunch of

1784
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:58,719
Speaker 1: states timing because I remember saying, like the first month

1785
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:01,800
Speaker 1: of the pandemic, Okay, if I can already be on

1786
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:04,639
Speaker 1: the contract with military, and you know how like Houston

1787
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 1: methodis now purchased forty four thousand, If I can do this,

1788
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 1: why are you the other companies doing this that have

1789
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 1: the supply chain, Like why aren't they doing it? And

1790
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 1: then I kind of stopped asking myself that question and said, well,

1791
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 1: they're not doing it, that's all that matters. And so

1792
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 1: because I came out of the gate first, and you know, media,

1793
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 1: t V, etcetera. Picks that story up. That's why we

1794
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:26,280
Speaker 1: just came out first and kind of step the groundwork.

1795
01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:29,639
Speaker 1: And then we started to see other companies trickling in, etcetera, etcetera.

1796
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 1: And you know, now everyone's making a face mask. Um.

1797
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 1: But one of the benefits, and I tell everybody this

1798
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:37,680
Speaker 1: is that you know, we had an idea and we

1799
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 1: just took a risk. You know, I didn't make a

1800
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 1: hundred thousand face mask hoping for a buyer. I mean,

1801
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 1: for the most part, I I had buyers way before

1802
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:48,720
Speaker 1: I even I could fulfill the orders. I just I

1803
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 1: took the risk. I took the risk and put myself

1804
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 1: out there. And and that's why I tell everyone to do, like,

1805
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 1: don't wait around for someone else to do it, because

1806
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 1: that's gonna be too late. Like just put it out there.

1807
01:30:57,240 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 1: You don't have to put out there in a huge fashion,

1808
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 1: but just put something out there, um, and then just

1809
01:31:02,439 --> 01:31:04,800
Speaker 1: go forward. Because a huge benefit is because we came

1810
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:07,160
Speaker 1: out of the gate first, and that's really important that

1811
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 1: you were courageous enough. And you know, I always tell

1812
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 1: people being an entrepreneur and being in you can't be

1813
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:16,520
Speaker 1: afraid of making a mistake. You can't be afraid of

1814
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 1: waking up. Sometimes a lot of people fear fear failure.

1815
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 1: And this is one of those really unique moments where

1816
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:25,439
Speaker 1: you know the perfect storm where you want to know something.

1817
01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go forward because I write instincts makes sense,

1818
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:32,240
Speaker 1: And especially with your mask is because it's important because

1819
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 1: now used to see people you know they mask, they

1820
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 1: take the mask, especially on news now to keep the

1821
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 1: mask on. So it's important where I've learned how to

1822
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:43,800
Speaker 1: be able to talk with a mask on, because that's

1823
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:46,679
Speaker 1: the lifestyle that we are going to live in. Because

1824
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:50,879
Speaker 1: Dr Anthony Faucci stated COVID nineteen is not going anywhere.

1825
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 1: If you expect to be hugging people you don't know,

1826
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:56,080
Speaker 1: high five and people you don't know, dapting people you

1827
01:31:56,120 --> 01:31:59,880
Speaker 1: don't know in one or two, that's not gonna happen.

1828
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:02,840
Speaker 1: The way we have lived, our lives will never be

1829
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:05,880
Speaker 1: the same. So you are at the at the at

1830
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:08,879
Speaker 1: the stage of an industry. I feel it's not going anywhere.

1831
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 1: It's just how long, how do you build it? And

1832
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:12,920
Speaker 1: how do you hold on to it? How do you

1833
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:16,280
Speaker 1: hold onto it and maintain and sustain growth in this

1834
01:32:16,680 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 1: and this? I guess we'll just say this growing facial

1835
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:24,080
Speaker 1: mass industry, sure, I mean you you gotta always keep

1836
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:25,640
Speaker 1: it fresh. Um, I staid, I have fun to have

1837
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 1: a creative session with my team tomorrow. So right now,

1838
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 1: as far as adult mask, you've only been doing black

1839
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 1: and white. So we're, you know, coming into the holidays, Halloween,

1840
01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 1: We're gonna start offering some graphics on the adult Yeah,

1841
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:41,000
Speaker 1: and we gotta always stay fresh. So I'm I'm branching

1842
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 1: even outside of face masks, getting into isolation gowns and

1843
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:48,599
Speaker 1: other you know, hot needed ppe items. So the way

1844
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 1: to like stay the way to stay relevant is just

1845
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:53,720
Speaker 1: always have and you know this from your background, is

1846
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:56,880
Speaker 1: just have material that people want to see and products

1847
01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:59,720
Speaker 1: that people want to buy. So masks are one thing,

1848
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 1: and definitely getting more of a crowded space, you know,

1849
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 1: full disclosure, Like now everyone's selling a mask. So because

1850
01:33:05,479 --> 01:33:08,200
Speaker 1: my foot's already in the door with some universities, the

1851
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:12,599
Speaker 1: military hospitals, I'm now creating other products. Um that I

1852
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:15,640
Speaker 1: know they needed want and uh, so we're started. I

1853
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:19,639
Speaker 1: started another company, UM called excel Protects, where we're getting

1854
01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:22,400
Speaker 1: a purchase order this week for thirty thousand isolation gowns

1855
01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:24,679
Speaker 1: from a huge hospital system up in the Dallas area.

1856
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:28,360
Speaker 1: And I just filed for that design patent last Friday,

1857
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:32,519
Speaker 1: so it's now patent pending for my new isolation gown design.

1858
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 1: And so we're getting into gowns as well. She's got

1859
01:33:34,439 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 1: always just not be afraid to pivot, not be afraid

1860
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:39,599
Speaker 1: to fail. Um, if it feels right, just keep doing it.

1861
01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:43,759
Speaker 1: My dear, She's my friend. Maybe in seventeen, I always

1862
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:46,280
Speaker 1: I would like to say she's my first. Uh you

1863
01:33:46,280 --> 01:33:48,680
Speaker 1: know you are started money making conversations in May of

1864
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:51,559
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. She was one of my first guests on

1865
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:53,760
Speaker 1: my show in the fall of that year, and I

1866
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:55,960
Speaker 1: just loved the growth of my show at my brain

1867
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:59,040
Speaker 1: and watching the growth of her brain and watching it pivot,

1868
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:01,759
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I have to say this honest,

1869
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:05,080
Speaker 1: I love you to death, Megan It, and I appreciate you,

1870
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:08,759
Speaker 1: and I will support you and always send me links.

1871
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:10,840
Speaker 1: I will support you on my social media, I will

1872
01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:14,679
Speaker 1: support you on my podcast. And my syndicated radio show,

1873
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 1: in my newsletter. I believe in you and don't change

1874
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 1: and keep winning it because you're very, very very special

1875
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:24,719
Speaker 1: and you're a testament to hard work and also trust

1876
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:26,960
Speaker 1: in your natural instinct because that's how you win. You

1877
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:29,200
Speaker 1: have to one day wake up and go it's on me.

1878
01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:33,519
Speaker 1: I believe in me. Let's move forward. That's right. And

1879
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 1: if you don't, if you don't believe in yourself a

1880
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:37,360
Speaker 1: hundred percent, like just can't. I don't know, I say

1881
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 1: to myself confidence confidence, confidence, I actually say that out woud.

1882
01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:42,439
Speaker 1: I mean, no one is a hundred percent confident. We

1883
01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:44,840
Speaker 1: all have times where we're like, you know, feeling a

1884
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 1: little insecure for whatever, but you gotta coach yourself. Just

1885
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 1: pushed through it. And Rashawn, I love you too. I

1886
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:52,840
Speaker 1: mean you're one of my biggest supporters. I'm one of

1887
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 1: your biggest supporters. You've clearly blown up. I mean you're

1888
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:01,440
Speaker 1: like all over the world. I heart radio, like you're everywhere.

1889
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Speaker 1: So whatever I can do is continue supporting you. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'll do well. We know when those October masks come out,

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Speaker 1: let Rushan know so I can put it on social

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Speaker 1: media and we can keep winning together as friends. All right,

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Speaker 1: keep winking. Thank you, Rashan. Alright, tell your husband. I

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Speaker 1: tell the family hot down there now, tell them live

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Speaker 1: and support you and believe in everything you guys are

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Speaker 1: doing that and keep giving good service to the community. Okay, Megan,

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Speaker 1: thank you Rashan. Okay, I appreciate you. Bye bye, We'll

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Speaker 1: be right back with more from Massa McDonald and money

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Speaker 1: August is National Minority Donor Awareness Months. So let's check

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Speaker 1: in with Dr Denay Simpson, Assistant Professor of Surgery at

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Speaker 1: Northwestern Medicine. Tell us about the African American Transplant Access Program.

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Speaker 1: So this is my baby. This is a program that

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Speaker 1: I have dreamt about creating since I became interested in

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Speaker 1: address the significant despairties that are African American patients space.

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Speaker 1: The program is designed to educate patients about transplant, let

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Speaker 1: them know what transplant can provide to them, and to

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Speaker 1: type of meaningful life. For more information, visit n M

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Speaker 1: dot org Slash Radio Visions. I'm your host. Sean McDonald's

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Speaker 1: my next guest in r J. We're gonna just start

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Speaker 1: out of the initial first in r J. That's Nicole Roberts.

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Speaker 1: Jones is uniquely gifted in one thing, drawing out what's

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Speaker 1: best in you and helping you take your brilliance to

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Speaker 1: the bank. That's b a n K bank, not fishing bank,

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Speaker 1: to the bank. A veteran of the entertainment industry and

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Speaker 1: the coworked and talent management and casting before shifting her

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Speaker 1: talents to help others bank roll their brilliance, she now

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Speaker 1: works with entrepreneurs to create multiple strings of income to

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Speaker 1: We talk about that all the time on the show

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Speaker 1: for what they already know in order to build an

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Speaker 1: empire from their expertise. Women are the fastest growing group

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Speaker 1: of entrepreneurs, and the number of business owned by black

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Speaker 1: women has grown by standing in a hundred and according

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Speaker 1: to the Fellow Reserves, Please welcome. She's here to talk

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Speaker 1: about banking that brilliance to the bank expertise, entrepreneurship. Please

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Speaker 1: work with the money making conversation. You know our j

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Speaker 1: that's Nicole Roberts Jones. How can I not be excited

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Speaker 1: to be here after all of that energy? I'm gonna

1934
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Speaker 1: try to keep myself, you know, contained though, so excited

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Speaker 1: to be here. You're gonna keep yourself contin First of all,

1936
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Speaker 1: what you're calling from so we can find out? I

1937
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Speaker 1: live in Boston, I'm but I live in Boston, So

1938
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Speaker 1: that's where I am. Now, Yes, what keeps you in Boston?

1939
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Speaker 1: What's going on in boss family? What's going on in Boston? Yeah?

1940
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Speaker 1: My husband got a job here, so I do what

1941
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Speaker 1: I do for whatever. So yes, he is the reason

1942
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Speaker 1: why we moved to Massachusetts. Okay, cool, that's all good.

1943
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Speaker 1: That's all good. That's just trying to let I try

1944
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Speaker 1: to figure out what it is a bundle of energy

1945
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Speaker 1: and inspiration is residing it? So you well up there? Where?

1946
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Speaker 1: If that? I've been the Boston a couple of times

1947
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Speaker 1: in my career, very familiar with that landscape up there. Um.

1948
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Speaker 1: The interesting thing about you as a talent Okay, you

1949
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Speaker 1: established your brand in Los Angeles. I'm assuming that's what

1950
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Speaker 1: talent management and casting. Let's talk about that early journey,

1951
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:26,360
Speaker 1: and we'll move up to just probably crossed because I've

1952
01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:28,880
Speaker 1: worked in comedy for years and we can talk probably

1953
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Speaker 1: for the next hour about that. But yes, so I

1954
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:34,400
Speaker 1: started really my dream since I was eight years old

1955
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Speaker 1: was to work in entertainment. How how eight years old? How? Yes?

1956
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Speaker 1: So literally I got to the place I dreamed of

1957
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Speaker 1: and something felt like it was missing. And so that,

1958
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Speaker 1: in essence, long story short, is how I came to

1959
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Speaker 1: do this work I'm doing now. I started to really

1960
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 1: look at how could I be doing the thing I

1961
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Speaker 1: dream of? And I loved it. Don't get me wrong,

1962
01:38:57,680 --> 01:38:59,880
Speaker 1: I didn't hate any part of it, but it just

1963
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Speaker 1: like that was more for me to do. And so

1964
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Speaker 1: that is how I shifted over. I started this over

1965
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Speaker 1: twenty seven years ago, even though I'm only twenty eight.

1966
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Speaker 1: I shifted to You didn't even listen to my intro.

1967
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:18,200
Speaker 1: Mighty baking conversation interviews will encourage you to leave with

1968
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Speaker 1: your gifts and never use age as an excuse when

1969
01:39:21,439 --> 01:39:26,439
Speaker 1: plenty of your I tell everybody degree you cannot allow

1970
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:30,280
Speaker 1: that for some reason life as you as you know,

1971
01:39:30,479 --> 01:39:32,080
Speaker 1: you know people talking about they don't want to turn

1972
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Speaker 1: thirty always twenty nine. Don't want to turn always thirty nine.

1973
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:38,400
Speaker 1: But you cannot accomplish anything in life unless you get

1974
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:41,040
Speaker 1: older and look exactly and I look, and I'm fifty

1975
01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:45,760
Speaker 1: and I'm seasoned because it's only because she's a good

1976
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:50,320
Speaker 1: looking a good looking I would have never known. But

1977
01:39:50,360 --> 01:39:52,560
Speaker 1: that lets me know. I'm talking to a person with experience,

1978
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:55,800
Speaker 1: and let me know that because you know, to be successful,

1979
01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 1: there's there's a certain degree of honesty that has to

1980
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:00,719
Speaker 1: be laid out there. Especially we're telling people multiple streets

1981
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 1: of income because everybody wants that. Everybody wants to understand

1982
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:07,400
Speaker 1: how they can be a part of that opportunity. But

1983
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:10,160
Speaker 1: you have to have experience, you have to create a

1984
01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:12,960
Speaker 1: track record, and you have to surround yourself with people

1985
01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:16,479
Speaker 1: who believe in your passion and turn that passion into

1986
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:20,280
Speaker 1: economic opportunity. You can not do that if you're an

1987
01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:23,200
Speaker 1: eighteen years old all your life, I'm sorry. Yeah, And

1988
01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:26,240
Speaker 1: then it starts with getting clear. So when I just

1989
01:40:26,280 --> 01:40:29,519
Speaker 1: told you that I had an epiphany moment. In epiphany

1990
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:32,000
Speaker 1: moment at the time, I was working on the hottest

1991
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Speaker 1: TV show on Fox right at an epiphany moment, and

1992
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:36,920
Speaker 1: every girlfriend that I talked to him saying, girl, are

1993
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:38,599
Speaker 1: you crazy? Do you realize we went to this red

1994
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:41,800
Speaker 1: carpet event and we went to this premiere. Are you crazy?

1995
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:44,240
Speaker 1: But something inside of me knew there was more? And

1996
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:47,200
Speaker 1: so I'm sharing that because that more. It's not about money,

1997
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:49,639
Speaker 1: It's about making a difference. I mean, you make difference,

1998
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:52,639
Speaker 1: money comes. And so what I began to look at

1999
01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 1: is what is this thing rumbling inside of me? Now?

2000
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Speaker 1: At the time, I was twenty three years old, I

2001
01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:00,880
Speaker 1: had no I know, no life experience, but I knew

2002
01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:04,240
Speaker 1: that something was calling me into another level of me.

2003
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:07,680
Speaker 1: And so it took an introspective look. Many of us

2004
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:11,680
Speaker 1: look for an outside answer to an inside yearning, and

2005
01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:14,000
Speaker 1: so I stopped looking for outside answers and I started

2006
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 1: spending time with me, started getting closer to God and

2007
01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:19,519
Speaker 1: really looking at what is it that you have me

2008
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:23,479
Speaker 1: on this earth to do? And that shifted everything. Now,

2009
01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:25,240
Speaker 1: you got to tell me what was the name of

2010
01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:27,640
Speaker 1: that TV show? Because people are gonna go, you can

2011
01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:29,600
Speaker 1: you can? I do this interviews? I was on the

2012
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Speaker 1: hottest TV show and thirty minutes later we hadn't even

2013
01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 1: mentioned the show. What's the name? So yes, so I

2014
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 1: worked in Cassie on The Martin Show. That for four years,

2015
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Speaker 1: I worked on Death Comedy Jam. I worked with Simmons, Lathan,

2016
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:43,679
Speaker 1: Bruce sin Gray, which is where I passed probably cross

2017
01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:48,360
Speaker 1: SLBG Entertainment. So um work for some pretty great listen

2018
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Speaker 1: stand Lathan is still my all time favorite boss, right,

2019
01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:55,519
Speaker 1: and so did our first when Steve Harvey. Now I

2020
01:41:55,520 --> 01:41:58,840
Speaker 1: went to television. You know, stay Lathan has always been

2021
01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:02,240
Speaker 1: good to me as a as a mantor person. I

2022
01:42:02,360 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 1: see and I just stopped and have to hug it.

2023
01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:07,920
Speaker 1: You know. I saw at the at the Holly Robinson

2024
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Speaker 1: Pete uh Annual Foundation fundraiser, so I got a picture,

2025
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:14,800
Speaker 1: took a picture with him. I said, you love me. So,

2026
01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:17,200
Speaker 1: Stanley the Stand was an absolute best boss, and it

2027
01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:20,000
Speaker 1: was it was while working with him that I had

2028
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:22,360
Speaker 1: this epiphany. So it was really hard because stand again,

2029
01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:24,960
Speaker 1: when you work with stan you feel like family. You

2030
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:27,080
Speaker 1: don't feel like you're working a job. A matter of fact,

2031
01:42:27,080 --> 01:42:29,479
Speaker 1: when I quit, stan said, what can I do to

2032
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:32,240
Speaker 1: cap you stay? So he made it hard for me

2033
01:42:32,280 --> 01:42:34,840
Speaker 1: to leave. But I knew that there was more out

2034
01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:38,320
Speaker 1: there waiting for me, and so that in essence had

2035
01:42:38,360 --> 01:42:40,519
Speaker 1: me leave my Hollywood dream. That don't get me wrong,

2036
01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:43,920
Speaker 1: I missed all the Hollywood parties, right, But what I'm

2037
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:46,240
Speaker 1: doing more, I realized, now I'm taking I took the

2038
01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 1: same exact things I was doing in casting and talent management,

2039
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:53,760
Speaker 1: and now I help people actually manage their talent. How

2040
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:56,680
Speaker 1: did they take their gifts and talent and actually make

2041
01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:59,439
Speaker 1: money from it? Okay, let's let's talk about this is

2042
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:01,960
Speaker 1: Hollywood life, you know, because I lived that Hollywood life.

2043
01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:05,320
Speaker 1: Let's see. See I'm talking to somebody. She she's at

2044
01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:07,360
Speaker 1: the top of the chromes. Okay, that's what at the

2045
01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:09,720
Speaker 1: top of the that's a different game. When you walk

2046
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:13,639
Speaker 1: on red carpet to people, people know you can hide them, girl,

2047
01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:16,160
Speaker 1: can you can? You? You have my picture? And so

2048
01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:20,040
Speaker 1: what are some of the now famous are people or

2049
01:43:20,080 --> 01:43:22,880
Speaker 1: that you worked with as far as talent management, as

2050
01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:25,599
Speaker 1: far as casting over the years in that career before

2051
01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:28,360
Speaker 1: we moved forward to the bank roll in your brilliance?

2052
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:33,639
Speaker 1: So in casting, I worked with Eileen Night she became

2053
01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:36,519
Speaker 1: you know right. So I worked on several Rock Martin.

2054
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:39,040
Speaker 1: As I said, I worked on media. Man. Guys, you

2055
01:43:39,080 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 1: know how old I am. So now you got my

2056
01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:42,600
Speaker 1: memory going? I worked on Media Man. I worked on

2057
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:47,320
Speaker 1: several movies. I can't even Media Man exactly. And he

2058
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:49,519
Speaker 1: had a TV show called Towns and Television. I worked

2059
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:53,000
Speaker 1: on that. So I worked on several teams and several

2060
01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:55,920
Speaker 1: movies right and and then when I left there, when

2061
01:43:55,960 --> 01:43:57,960
Speaker 1: I went to work with Stan, we managed many of

2062
01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:00,880
Speaker 1: the Deaf Company Jam comedians, so Bill Bellamy Show, Tory Guy,

2063
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:05,280
Speaker 1: Tory Um Center, the Entertainer Um. And then I got

2064
01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:08,360
Speaker 1: to also work, you know, like during the audition process

2065
01:44:08,479 --> 01:44:11,920
Speaker 1: for many other Deaf Comedy Jam comedians, so um so

2066
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:15,680
Speaker 1: I interface uh Del Gibbons, uh event Will sent. I'm

2067
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:18,080
Speaker 1: like trying to remember all the names of the people

2068
01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:21,760
Speaker 1: that we got to manage and so really having hand

2069
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:24,719
Speaker 1: in their career shifting from just comedy to doing movies

2070
01:44:24,720 --> 01:44:27,200
Speaker 1: and TV and stuff like that. You know, with Sean,

2071
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:29,439
Speaker 1: it was struggling to get on Deaf Comedy Jam because

2072
01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:31,280
Speaker 1: you know, you probably looked at my little video with

2073
01:44:32,439 --> 01:44:35,080
Speaker 1: now I passed, Okay, that was Bob Sumner, you know Bob,

2074
01:44:35,120 --> 01:44:38,720
Speaker 1: that was and I interviewed something too. I said, Bob,

2075
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:41,600
Speaker 1: because I'm taking a little side story about me. So

2076
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:43,720
Speaker 1: I started doing stand up comed before you know, I

2077
01:44:44,080 --> 01:44:45,960
Speaker 1: was in the white game. You know, I was at

2078
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:50,120
Speaker 1: the White coming Jared Seinfield, all that, Bill Hicks and

2079
01:44:50,160 --> 01:44:52,400
Speaker 1: then it's Leary that was me. So when the death

2080
01:44:52,439 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 1: Janet Jeff Comedy Jeff popped out, you know, they looked

2081
01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 1: at me, go, now, you can't make black people laugh.

2082
01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:00,320
Speaker 1: That to me, and so I had to to a

2083
01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:05,519
Speaker 1: black Black comedy competition in Oakland make the finals and

2084
01:45:05,560 --> 01:45:08,040
Speaker 1: then they went, okay, you can make black people laugh.

2085
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:12,960
Speaker 1: Were good the black comedy. And Ricky Harrison was on

2086
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:15,559
Speaker 1: our clients to black comedy. So when Guy Tory started

2087
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:18,280
Speaker 1: Fat Tuesdays at the Comedy Store, I was actually on

2088
01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:19,760
Speaker 1: his team. So I would always say he would do

2089
01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:21,080
Speaker 1: the frintend and I would do the back because I

2090
01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:22,360
Speaker 1: managed the room for him. That was one of my

2091
01:45:22,439 --> 01:45:26,240
Speaker 1: last jobs in comedy. And you know, just there's so

2092
01:45:26,280 --> 01:45:29,560
Speaker 1: many talented people. But here's the thing, somebody needs to

2093
01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 1: write this down where they're in comedy or you are

2094
01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 1: working at nine to five, the people that make it,

2095
01:45:34,280 --> 01:45:37,040
Speaker 1: to the people that don't quit. You know, Chadwick Boseman

2096
01:45:37,160 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 1: just passed right not too long ago, and when you

2097
01:45:40,120 --> 01:45:42,759
Speaker 1: look at the fact that he had cancer for six

2098
01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 1: or four of his last years in the best movies

2099
01:45:46,320 --> 01:45:49,040
Speaker 1: he made was why he was fighting for cancer. How

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Speaker 1: many people would quit and say, I'm sick, I'm going

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Speaker 1: the people that stay in it and don't give up.

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Speaker 1: And I saw so many comedians that were funny, it

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Speaker 1: just wasn't their time. It was the people that didn't

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Speaker 1: give up, that that we're willing to risk it all

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Speaker 1: the game at all that literally made it to the

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Speaker 1: big stage and that and they didn't compromise who they were.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna say this, and somebody's gonna get me

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Speaker 1: for saying this. But one of the things that I

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Speaker 1: didn't like about comedy it's how everybody thought, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: Bernie Mac is really funny and he's dirty, so maybe

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Speaker 1: I need to be dirty. Well that's who Bernie Mac was,

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Speaker 1: So you're trying to be dirty because he's like that

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Speaker 1: doesn't make you funny and makes you trying to be

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Speaker 1: Bernie Mack. And God didn't make you with the cookie cutter,

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Speaker 1: so why are you trying to copy somebody else's brilliance

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Speaker 1: and make it your own. I agree, And it really

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Speaker 1: interesting when you used the word dirty comedy comic, they

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Speaker 1: a little bit because I was I'm a former stand

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Speaker 1: up comedy comedian. If you curse in your punchline any

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Speaker 1: with the coursework, then guess what people always heard that

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Speaker 1: curse work. Okay, ye now I remember, and I'm tear him.

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Speaker 1: I was as salty as anybody on stage. And I

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Speaker 1: remember people will come out to me, go, you really

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Speaker 1: have a really good clean act. I go, did they?

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Speaker 1: Did they hear me? Did they hear me? Because of

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Speaker 1: how I just folke and how I communicated and you know,

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Speaker 1: and and the one thing that the gift that you

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Speaker 1: really have, Nicole, is that you're a great communicator. You know,

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Speaker 1: even in this interview, I'm I just want to talk

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Speaker 1: to you. I just want to engage you and just girl,

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Speaker 1: what you're doing over You know, I can talk to

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Speaker 1: you for a minute now because you usually have the

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Speaker 1: right tools of conversation. Even a great comedian. All a

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Speaker 1: great comedian is as a storyteller. Even there, I say, Jesus,

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Speaker 1: if you read all the stories in the Bible of

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Speaker 1: him doing stuff, it's stories, right. And so when you

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Speaker 1: think about it. Even the greatest CEOs have the greatest

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Speaker 1: story behind them. You think about people like Tyler Perry,

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Speaker 1: the fact that he lived in a car, right, and

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Speaker 1: so the Steve Rvey Right. We can go on and on.

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Speaker 1: It's the story that people follow. So when you're on

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Speaker 1: stage or when you're on listen, you could be a

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Speaker 1: stage as a comedian or a CEO of a business,

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Speaker 1: regardless of what that stage is, whether it's a platform,

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Speaker 1: a boardroom or classroom or boutique, whatever that is. It's

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Speaker 1: the story people remember. My Angelus said, people forget what

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Speaker 1: you did, that forget what you said, but they always

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Speaker 1: remember how you made them feel. It's the story that

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Speaker 1: connects people heart to heart. Sold us all, Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm gonna turn home if I get sick.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna key let in R and J feeling for me.

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Speaker 1: And I love that you're calling me NRJ because my

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Speaker 1: my close friends call me that. As soon as we

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Speaker 1: got on the line and you said, I just felt

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Speaker 1: laughing like you know this brother knows me already. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: That's my gift, you know, And that you know it's

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Speaker 1: always funny, is that Steve Harvey is always getting know,

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Speaker 1: I just walk in the room when he just go

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Speaker 1: and I tell him by different people go, you ain't

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Speaker 1: even met that person. I go, I don't need to.

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Speaker 1: I just had a I just have a sense of people.

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Speaker 1: We have a sense of who are wasted my time

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Speaker 1: and who's gonna even if they're waste my time, at

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Speaker 1: least I own conversation. The extent of this conversation. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you need to talk to everybody. I never stopped talking

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Speaker 1: to anybody just because I devalue what they was going

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Speaker 1: to bring to the table. Because I thought that in

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Speaker 1: having a conversation, I was educated myself and I understand

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Speaker 1: understood some things about myself, and that comprehending my ability

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Speaker 1: to be successful. Now if the ability to be successful

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Speaker 1: right now though, Nicole, is that you're willing to share

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Speaker 1: an uplift, Why is that so important in the in

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Speaker 1: the entrepreneurial space. M So, I told you the story

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Speaker 1: of me coming to that crosshold where I knew there

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Speaker 1: was more for me to do. So to make a

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Speaker 1: long story short, and I have to tell you the

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Speaker 1: story so you understand since I just talked about storytelling,

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Speaker 1: but I just want you to understand the context of

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Speaker 1: why I'm so passionate about it. So when I left

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Speaker 1: to start my business. Really what happened is one of

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Speaker 1: my good girlfriends invited me to volunteer at a program

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Speaker 1: that was happening at our church. And one night, as

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Speaker 1: I walked in that church, and those of you that

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Speaker 1: are familiar with a lock in at a church where

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Speaker 1: they locked the kids in and they do activities. In

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Speaker 1: other words, it's a sleepover. It just just locked in.

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Speaker 1: Because you know, I don't know a day lockin sounds

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Speaker 1: bad now, but back then it sounded good anyway. Um,

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Speaker 1: And so when I started working with young women that night,

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Speaker 1: as I worked with them, their eyes lit up. And

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Speaker 1: as their eyes lit up, my heart lit up, and

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Speaker 1: I realized, oh my god, this is what I'm meant

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Speaker 1: to do, really helping them figure out and carving out

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Speaker 1: a path for their future. But this was a glamorous

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Speaker 1: like my nine right, nobody was begging down any door

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Speaker 1: to do this work. Now again, this was in. There

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Speaker 1: was no such thing as a coach, but that's what

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Speaker 1: I was doing that night, And so I realized I

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Speaker 1: had to figure this thing out. So in I started

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Speaker 1: my business. So some seventeen years later, by two thousand

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Speaker 1: and ten, I had gotten to the exact place I

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Speaker 1: dreamed of when I started. So by then I had

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Speaker 1: a nonprofit and a for profit in my business, and

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Speaker 1: my nonprofit, I had ten chapters and ten states working

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Speaker 1: with those teenage girls, and we were growing by leaps

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Speaker 1: and bounds. In my for profit, I had a maxile

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Speaker 1: coaching client roster, meaning I couldn't take another client coaching

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Speaker 1: women and a few gentlemen really helping them understand how

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Speaker 1: to bank roll their brilliance. Right. But and because I

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Speaker 1: connected to the client, I wrote my first book that

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Speaker 1: came out in two thousand and ten. And now I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you guys all of that because what happened is

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Speaker 1: I started getting invitation to speak all over the country,

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Speaker 1: and so I was thinking to myself, oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: I've made it. But here's the thing. I was only

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Speaker 1: generating thirteen thousand dollars in my business, which means I

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Speaker 1: had a big, fat, uh you know, community service, because

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Speaker 1: there's no way I was living off a thirteen thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars so yes, at a daytime job, right which I

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Speaker 1: was then adjunct professor at the time. So I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you that story because I had gotten to a crossroad,

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Speaker 1: and I said, listen, now, I prayed, Lord, if this

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Speaker 1: is really you and this is what I meant to do,

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Speaker 1: you better show me something. You better help me figure

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Speaker 1: this out. And so I got on this free webinarum

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Speaker 1: one night and I didn't track, you know how far

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Speaker 1: it was from my prayer, because I didn't realize this

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Speaker 1: was my breakthrough. On that free webinar invited me to

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Speaker 1: go to a conference. When I got to that conference,

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Speaker 1: I started seeing all the stuff I didn't know. At

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Speaker 1: that commerence, I hired my first coach. So I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you all of that because in my first coaching session,

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Speaker 1: my coach said to me in the cowait a minute,

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Speaker 1: So you used to work in talent development and in

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Speaker 1: the entertainment industry, and then you left there and you

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Speaker 1: wouldn't got a master's degree, and your expertise is program development.

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Speaker 1: So you're really great at developing programs, so much so

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Speaker 1: that you got offered an advent profession position at USC.

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Speaker 1: And now that you move to Boston, you teach at

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Speaker 1: Boston University, and what you teach this program development. And

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking, yeah, let me get my coach to knowing

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Speaker 1: me and then she said, before you moved from California,

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Speaker 1: you had a consulting practice, and what you did was

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Speaker 1: you went into businesses. You work with celebrities, you work

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Speaker 1: with heads of state, you work with nonprofits, and you

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Speaker 1: develop programs. And I said yeah. And then the next

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Speaker 1: day she said Vershwan was what shifted everything from me.

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Speaker 1: She said, you don't have any programs in your own business.

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Speaker 1: So here's the thing written down. But not only that,

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Speaker 1: you can't only listen. If you only have in your

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Speaker 1: you're already kepping off how much money you can make.

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Speaker 1: Because if you only have eight hour in the day,

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Speaker 1: First of all, you're not gonna work all eight hours

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Sean McDonald. The thing I appreciate about

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Speaker 1: the whole situation is that when we go through life

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out and people start calling, it's defining

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Speaker 1: we don't do what we do to us. Yes. So

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01:55:33,160 --> 01:55:35,680
Speaker 1: there's things that intrinsic to your DNA, which I call

2309
01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:38,680
Speaker 1: your distinct natural ability, that you do on autopilot. So

2310
01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:41,080
Speaker 1: you'll say things like and if you haven't said it,

2311
01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:42,840
Speaker 1: I know I have, oh done and everybody know how

2312
01:55:42,880 --> 01:55:45,000
Speaker 1: to do this, or oh this is easy? Well, yes,

2313
01:55:45,160 --> 01:55:49,160
Speaker 1: easy for you. Yes, And that's when sometimes you can

2314
01:55:49,280 --> 01:55:53,400
Speaker 1: get undervalue saying that I've done that and I've caught myself.

2315
01:55:53,600 --> 01:55:55,440
Speaker 1: But it's even more so the truth when you try

2316
01:55:55,480 --> 01:55:57,760
Speaker 1: to do it for yourself, you realize how difficult it is.

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01:55:58,080 --> 01:56:00,440
Speaker 1: It's easy, Like I was seriously, I I should know

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01:56:00,480 --> 01:56:02,600
Speaker 1: Steve ry blood pressure with for breakfast, with it for

2319
01:56:02,600 --> 01:56:05,400
Speaker 1: divery where he didn't like, if you like, coraborate, if

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01:56:05,400 --> 01:56:07,440
Speaker 1: you're like if what city you like to do in

2321
01:56:07,720 --> 01:56:09,880
Speaker 1: Miami were like doing New York. I knew all that,

2322
01:56:10,240 --> 01:56:13,840
Speaker 1: But when I stopped managing him in twenty sixteen, I

2323
01:56:13,880 --> 01:56:17,200
Speaker 1: can tell you none of those things for Rashan, And

2324
01:56:17,680 --> 01:56:20,280
Speaker 1: so it was importantly easier probably for you to manage

2325
01:56:20,360 --> 01:56:23,200
Speaker 1: him than it was for you to manage. And it's

2326
01:56:23,200 --> 01:56:26,160
Speaker 1: not necessarily managed thing. But here's the thing. You begin

2327
01:56:26,240 --> 01:56:27,600
Speaker 1: to feel like, and I don't know about you, something

2328
01:56:27,640 --> 01:56:29,440
Speaker 1: to say me, you know, you feel like you're bragging

2329
01:56:29,480 --> 01:56:31,480
Speaker 1: about yourself or oh, well, how can I feel that

2330
01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:33,760
Speaker 1: about me? But it's like, no, I'm clearing who I

2331
01:56:33,800 --> 01:56:36,440
Speaker 1: am and I'm making an invitation. I'm not selling you.

2332
01:56:36,520 --> 01:56:38,800
Speaker 1: I'm making invitation because I know the predictable result. I

2333
01:56:38,840 --> 01:56:41,040
Speaker 1: can get you too, if you're willing to do the work.

2334
01:56:41,400 --> 01:56:43,720
Speaker 1: But there's a difference between you saying that about someone

2335
01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:45,520
Speaker 1: else and you're beginning to say that about you. It's

2336
01:56:45,520 --> 01:56:48,680
Speaker 1: like you have to shift your muscle from not pride

2337
01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:53,720
Speaker 1: but really being unapologetically who you are. And it was

2338
01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:56,600
Speaker 1: really interesting because that's why you have to have people

2339
01:56:56,640 --> 01:57:02,440
Speaker 1: around you. Okay and yeah, and sometimes staff there tell me, okay, rashan, Uh,

2340
01:57:02,760 --> 01:57:06,040
Speaker 1: you want a couple of Emmys? Huh? You want someone?

2341
01:57:06,400 --> 01:57:09,600
Speaker 1: You want some who you are? Right? You know because

2342
01:57:09,600 --> 01:57:11,560
Speaker 1: you think you know because that's what you're talking about,

2343
01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:14,520
Speaker 1: bragging on yourself. They remind me I'm a math degree. There,

2344
01:57:14,680 --> 01:57:17,800
Speaker 1: remind me that I was an award winning stand up comic.

2345
01:57:17,840 --> 01:57:20,800
Speaker 1: That remind me that I'm award winning baker. They remind me,

2346
01:57:20,800 --> 01:57:24,040
Speaker 1: I manage because you're not focused on who you were.

2347
01:57:24,320 --> 01:57:26,680
Speaker 1: You're focused on who you have not yet become. And

2348
01:57:26,760 --> 01:57:29,000
Speaker 1: that is and that is important. But you know what,

2349
01:57:29,320 --> 01:57:31,720
Speaker 1: but the important thing this conversation we're having is that

2350
01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:35,160
Speaker 1: if you don't understand your base, what do you build

2351
01:57:35,160 --> 01:57:37,880
Speaker 1: it off of? And can I just tell you the

2352
01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:40,200
Speaker 1: reason why I didn't make money in my business for

2353
01:57:40,280 --> 01:57:42,600
Speaker 1: seventeen years because I didn't understand my base. I didn'

2354
01:57:42,640 --> 01:57:45,680
Speaker 1: unerstand my brilliant I didn't take the time to create

2355
01:57:45,720 --> 01:57:49,080
Speaker 1: a strategy around it. You know, you know, not the

2356
01:57:49,160 --> 01:57:50,760
Speaker 1: last It's not the last time you're gonna be on

2357
01:57:50,800 --> 01:57:53,280
Speaker 1: my show. You know that I can talk, so I

2358
01:57:53,280 --> 01:57:55,240
Speaker 1: could be on your show anytime you want me. You

2359
01:57:55,280 --> 01:57:57,320
Speaker 1: will and you will be. You will be. I think

2360
01:57:57,320 --> 01:57:59,080
Speaker 1: you don't let you know that because because of the

2361
01:57:59,080 --> 01:58:04,080
Speaker 1: fact that we're talking the same lanes of conversation male female,

2362
01:58:04,560 --> 01:58:07,839
Speaker 1: and it's important that people understand that the value system

2363
01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:13,960
Speaker 1: works for both gender. Yeah, it doesn't. Black people, we

2364
01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:16,920
Speaker 1: have not done that because we're not having tools to

2365
01:58:17,640 --> 01:58:21,720
Speaker 1: for that to be communicated to us. We haven't had

2366
01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:24,360
Speaker 1: the family and the legacy that's that's been able to

2367
01:58:24,400 --> 01:58:27,080
Speaker 1: communicate our legacy there. I say this is slavery, doesn't

2368
01:58:27,080 --> 01:58:29,520
Speaker 1: mean we haven't done something since then. But we've had

2369
01:58:29,560 --> 01:58:32,480
Speaker 1: to really pull ourselves up our bootstrap. So our family

2370
01:58:32,520 --> 01:58:34,919
Speaker 1: members that did go to college in the nineteen hundreds

2371
01:58:35,080 --> 01:58:38,280
Speaker 1: right had to fight for that. And so for many

2372
01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:41,160
Speaker 1: of us, it's taken generation after generation after generation for

2373
01:58:41,280 --> 01:58:44,880
Speaker 1: us understand wealth, whereas some other cultures have it from

2374
01:58:44,920 --> 01:58:47,160
Speaker 1: the beginning. So I'm not downing what we've been through

2375
01:58:47,200 --> 01:58:49,720
Speaker 1: because we are strong people, but we've had to learn

2376
01:58:49,720 --> 01:58:52,000
Speaker 1: it in a different way. And I don't listen, I'm

2377
01:58:52,040 --> 01:58:53,760
Speaker 1: from South central l A. Let me keep it all

2378
01:58:53,800 --> 01:58:55,880
Speaker 1: the way. Well, those of you that saw Boys in

2379
01:58:55,920 --> 01:58:57,640
Speaker 1: the Hood, I grew up probably ten blocks from where

2380
01:58:57,680 --> 01:59:00,480
Speaker 1: they found that movie, So listen, I grew up robbing

2381
01:59:00,520 --> 01:59:02,720
Speaker 1: Peter to pay Paul. So here I am now with

2382
01:59:02,760 --> 01:59:05,600
Speaker 1: a multiple six figure business with a massive degree, you know,

2383
01:59:05,640 --> 01:59:08,240
Speaker 1: with eight people on my team working towards my million

2384
01:59:08,320 --> 01:59:11,600
Speaker 1: dollar year. And you know, when a neighborhood that I'm

2385
01:59:11,640 --> 01:59:14,680
Speaker 1: from would have to find my life by jail, drugs

2386
01:59:14,720 --> 01:59:17,920
Speaker 1: and drive by shootings, there's no way that I should

2387
01:59:17,960 --> 01:59:20,000
Speaker 1: be here where I am there's no way I should

2388
01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:22,320
Speaker 1: live on the East coast. There's no way, you know,

2389
01:59:22,320 --> 01:59:24,680
Speaker 1: I can continue. But all I can say is but

2390
01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:28,560
Speaker 1: God and then getting clear and who God created you

2391
01:59:28,680 --> 01:59:31,840
Speaker 1: to be and accepting nothing less. So with that real quick,

2392
01:59:31,840 --> 01:59:33,640
Speaker 1: because I don't want to leave this dangling is I

2393
01:59:33,640 --> 01:59:37,160
Speaker 1: want to tell people the four uh piece or four

2394
01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:40,520
Speaker 1: step framework to what I call my fierce formula. And

2395
01:59:40,520 --> 01:59:43,560
Speaker 1: I call it fierce because just like Beyonce created Socia

2396
01:59:43,640 --> 01:59:46,400
Speaker 1: fierce when she went out on her solo career and

2397
01:59:46,480 --> 01:59:48,120
Speaker 1: had to stand on stage for the first time and

2398
01:59:48,200 --> 01:59:50,200
Speaker 1: had to like conjure up enough courage to do it,

2399
01:59:50,520 --> 01:59:52,320
Speaker 1: many of us need to find the fierce inside of

2400
01:59:52,360 --> 01:59:54,000
Speaker 1: us as a fellas. If you can't say fear and safe,

2401
01:59:54,000 --> 01:59:56,040
Speaker 1: aerocious is all good? This is for you to right.

2402
01:59:56,640 --> 01:59:58,400
Speaker 1: So it's four steps and these are the four steps that,

2403
01:59:58,480 --> 02:00:00,040
Speaker 1: by the way, I went from thirteen thousand and a

2404
02:00:00,120 --> 02:00:02,440
Speaker 1: hundred thousand and six months with these four steps. Okay,

2405
02:00:02,920 --> 02:00:05,920
Speaker 1: So first it's passion, like what are you passionate about?

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02:00:06,080 --> 02:00:07,720
Speaker 1: That's why Brashanna and I can talk all day law

2407
02:00:07,720 --> 02:00:10,480
Speaker 1: because we both are passionate about bank rolling your brilliance? Right,

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02:00:10,960 --> 02:00:13,320
Speaker 1: So what could you do hour upon hour hour and

2409
02:00:13,400 --> 02:00:15,520
Speaker 1: never get paid for it. The second is what are

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02:00:15,520 --> 02:00:18,640
Speaker 1: you proficient in? Now? The first one and the second

2411
02:00:18,640 --> 02:00:20,680
Speaker 1: one has to correlate. You can't love it and be

2412
02:00:20,840 --> 02:00:23,120
Speaker 1: not good at it. That won't work, or you can't

2413
02:00:23,160 --> 02:00:24,480
Speaker 1: be good at it and not love it. So like

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02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:27,040
Speaker 1: for instance, Shelle Obama talked about this in her book

2415
02:00:27,080 --> 02:00:29,760
Speaker 1: Becoming She said, I was really great at being a lawyer.

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02:00:30,080 --> 02:00:32,520
Speaker 1: You know, was offered a partner in a law firm,

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02:00:32,600 --> 02:00:36,320
Speaker 1: but I hated it. So you've got to find those

2418
02:00:36,400 --> 02:00:38,920
Speaker 1: who have to correlate in. Those two are really your purpose,

2419
02:00:39,120 --> 02:00:42,720
Speaker 1: passion and proficiency. The third P is what problem does

2420
02:00:42,760 --> 02:00:44,880
Speaker 1: it solve? Because it ain't about you, it's about all

2421
02:00:44,960 --> 02:00:47,400
Speaker 1: those that need that gift inside of you. And then

2422
02:00:47,400 --> 02:00:49,560
Speaker 1: of course the fourth peace profit. So once you get

2423
02:00:49,560 --> 02:00:52,920
Speaker 1: clearing all four of those, that is really the missing

2424
02:00:53,040 --> 02:00:56,160
Speaker 1: ingredient for many people. That'st our businesses and really kept

2425
02:00:56,200 --> 02:00:59,680
Speaker 1: me from bank rolling my own brilliance. Now you also

2426
02:00:59,760 --> 02:01:03,480
Speaker 1: have out five tips to bank roll your bris. Yeah,

2427
02:01:03,720 --> 02:01:06,240
Speaker 1: now that's the four pas, right, that's the four pas.

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02:01:06,360 --> 02:01:09,080
Speaker 1: Passion piece is different no no no no no no

2429
02:01:09,160 --> 02:01:11,440
Speaker 1: no no no. When to be quiet and let me

2430
02:01:11,520 --> 02:01:14,680
Speaker 1: just I'd like to let everybody know the four peas

2431
02:01:15,160 --> 02:01:19,680
Speaker 1: is passion, proficiency, problem solving it in process. Okay, now

2432
02:01:19,760 --> 02:01:22,200
Speaker 1: you have five tips to bank roll your brilliance. I

2433
02:01:22,280 --> 02:01:24,480
Speaker 1: know you, I know you're up an interview with somebody

2434
02:01:24,560 --> 02:01:27,040
Speaker 1: like me. Just prepared. I'm prepared with when I get

2435
02:01:27,080 --> 02:01:28,880
Speaker 1: on the phone with a person like y'all, I've done

2436
02:01:28,920 --> 02:01:30,880
Speaker 1: my whole work. You know I'm not going to around here.

2437
02:01:30,920 --> 02:01:33,760
Speaker 1: This is in RJ Enterprise, the premier training and talent

2438
02:01:33,840 --> 02:01:37,720
Speaker 1: development company dedicated to help and you bank roll your brilliance. Okay, yes,

2439
02:01:37,960 --> 02:01:39,640
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. I love it so yes,

2440
02:01:40,040 --> 02:01:42,040
Speaker 1: So five tips to back of your parents. Also, we

2441
02:01:42,120 --> 02:01:44,360
Speaker 1: talked about Look, we've talked about this so much that

2442
02:01:44,440 --> 02:01:46,680
Speaker 1: if y'all don't get this lesson by now, stop giving

2443
02:01:46,720 --> 02:01:50,400
Speaker 1: away your intellectual property for free. Yes, you know. Often

2444
02:01:50,440 --> 02:01:53,040
Speaker 1: times I'm on podcast or interviews like this and they

2445
02:01:53,120 --> 02:01:54,680
Speaker 1: talked to me about the side hustle, and I go, Nope,

2446
02:01:54,680 --> 02:01:56,560
Speaker 1: I don't call it a side hustle because if you

2447
02:01:56,600 --> 02:01:58,720
Speaker 1: look up hustle in the dictionary, it has pimp and

2448
02:01:58,800 --> 02:02:01,400
Speaker 1: prostitute in the definitive. And I'm not trying to have

2449
02:02:01,480 --> 02:02:04,240
Speaker 1: you pimp your gift. Hello, right, but many of us

2450
02:02:04,280 --> 02:02:06,640
Speaker 1: are many of you that are listening are pimping your gift.

2451
02:02:06,720 --> 02:02:08,920
Speaker 1: When someone says that you can I run this past you,

2452
02:02:09,240 --> 02:02:11,760
Speaker 1: Oh can I pick your brain? You're given away your

2453
02:02:12,120 --> 02:02:15,160
Speaker 1: intellectual property for free? Or Steve Harper would say, you're

2454
02:02:15,200 --> 02:02:22,840
Speaker 1: given away your cookie for free. Hello, right, right right?

2455
02:02:23,920 --> 02:02:25,480
Speaker 1: And then the second one once you get clear on

2456
02:02:25,560 --> 02:02:27,600
Speaker 1: what your intellectual property is. And again that's a four

2457
02:02:27,760 --> 02:02:30,040
Speaker 1: piece that I walked you through. You've got to build

2458
02:02:30,080 --> 02:02:33,760
Speaker 1: your business with the blueprint. You can't just do whatever winever. However,

2459
02:02:33,840 --> 02:02:36,720
Speaker 1: you've got to have strategy, just like they do when

2460
02:02:36,720 --> 02:02:38,720
Speaker 1: they have a house. When you building a house, you

2461
02:02:39,440 --> 02:02:41,920
Speaker 1: the your your construction folk will tell you to do

2462
02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:44,320
Speaker 1: a blueprint first. You got to do the same thing

2463
02:02:44,360 --> 02:02:46,960
Speaker 1: in your business and that blueprint should be built from

2464
02:02:47,120 --> 02:02:51,160
Speaker 1: your brilliant or intellectual property. Let me keep going through

2465
02:02:51,160 --> 02:02:56,280
Speaker 1: my five keep going. The third one is what you

2466
02:02:56,320 --> 02:02:58,680
Speaker 1: ain't gonna do? Is I say five? You stop it?

2467
02:02:58,760 --> 02:03:04,840
Speaker 1: To come on now? You are you sure? Look n

2468
02:03:04,880 --> 02:03:06,760
Speaker 1: I can talk for the next five hour. I'm just

2469
02:03:06,880 --> 02:03:11,200
Speaker 1: making sure because okay, number one, stop giving away your

2470
02:03:11,200 --> 02:03:14,600
Speaker 1: intellectual property for free. Number two, build your business with

2471
02:03:14,680 --> 02:03:17,720
Speaker 1: a blueprint. What's number three? And number three is you

2472
02:03:17,840 --> 02:03:20,720
Speaker 1: got to move past marketing and begin to build your

2473
02:03:20,800 --> 02:03:22,800
Speaker 1: no like and trust factor. So let me tell you

2474
02:03:22,840 --> 02:03:25,000
Speaker 1: what I mean. Right, so many people, you can buy

2475
02:03:25,040 --> 02:03:27,600
Speaker 1: the latest marketing program. Right, you can buy the latest

2476
02:03:27,720 --> 02:03:30,120
Speaker 1: marketing you can hire a marketing coach. If you're not

2477
02:03:30,440 --> 02:03:33,520
Speaker 1: clear on your brilliance, then what you're doing is you're

2478
02:03:33,520 --> 02:03:35,840
Speaker 1: becoming a cookie cutter. You're like becoming a stepparate wife

2479
02:03:35,920 --> 02:03:38,000
Speaker 1: in your business. And ain'tybody got time for that, right,

2480
02:03:38,440 --> 02:03:40,680
Speaker 1: So instead, I'd like to call it dating. You want

2481
02:03:40,680 --> 02:03:44,200
Speaker 1: to date your ideal client in your business. So I

2482
02:03:44,360 --> 02:03:46,440
Speaker 1: like to use an example when my husband and I

2483
02:03:46,560 --> 02:03:48,240
Speaker 1: went on our first date. If that brother would have

2484
02:03:48,280 --> 02:03:50,600
Speaker 1: brought my ring to the first date, I would have

2485
02:03:50,640 --> 02:03:52,400
Speaker 1: been calling my girlfriend like, girl, please come give me

2486
02:03:52,440 --> 02:03:54,480
Speaker 1: this man. It's crazy, but so many of us do

2487
02:03:54,600 --> 02:03:56,320
Speaker 1: that when we think, oh, I'm I'm gonna put up

2488
02:03:56,360 --> 02:03:57,920
Speaker 1: my website and I'm gonna put up a sales page

2489
02:03:57,960 --> 02:04:00,880
Speaker 1: and people just gonna buy. We don't know you, Hilaire. Right,

2490
02:04:01,600 --> 02:04:04,040
Speaker 1: They've got to start building ways for people to get

2491
02:04:04,120 --> 02:04:06,200
Speaker 1: to see the value that you bring it to their

2492
02:04:06,240 --> 02:04:08,440
Speaker 1: life for their business. And I call that dating. Even

2493
02:04:08,480 --> 02:04:10,840
Speaker 1: in your business, you're dating your ideal clients. I mean

2494
02:04:10,920 --> 02:04:12,400
Speaker 1: some free things. You're gonna give away some things for

2495
02:04:12,480 --> 02:04:14,120
Speaker 1: free before you put a ring on it, which me

2496
02:04:14,200 --> 02:04:17,120
Speaker 1: is they pay you to hire you a lot of

2497
02:04:17,160 --> 02:04:19,720
Speaker 1: people to understand that you don't have to get paid

2498
02:04:19,760 --> 02:04:23,200
Speaker 1: for everything and achieving your goals, right, But you've got

2499
02:04:23,280 --> 02:04:25,680
Speaker 1: to let people see who you are. Just because somebody

2500
02:04:25,720 --> 02:04:28,360
Speaker 1: hears me today doesn't mean i'mna hire her. No, you

2501
02:04:28,480 --> 02:04:30,240
Speaker 1: might think it was she real or does she really

2502
02:04:30,280 --> 02:04:32,120
Speaker 1: know what she's doing? So I've got to allow you

2503
02:04:32,240 --> 02:04:36,040
Speaker 1: to experience me and order same way. That's why you date.

2504
02:04:36,080 --> 02:04:38,360
Speaker 1: Because what if my husband was bringing this representative to

2505
02:04:38,400 --> 02:04:40,320
Speaker 1: the days, at some point I would have seen through

2506
02:04:40,360 --> 02:04:44,080
Speaker 1: the representative and said, brother, this ain't write something. It's

2507
02:04:44,160 --> 02:04:48,800
Speaker 1: not right that you should have multiple trees of income

2508
02:04:48,880 --> 02:04:53,920
Speaker 1: and one show should include money making while you yes,

2509
02:04:54,360 --> 02:04:56,120
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, if you only

2510
02:04:56,200 --> 02:04:57,960
Speaker 1: are doing things where you have to be president. I

2511
02:04:58,000 --> 02:05:00,960
Speaker 1: said this earlier, you're already capping how much money you make.

2512
02:05:01,280 --> 02:05:03,200
Speaker 1: So what I like to use it as an example.

2513
02:05:03,240 --> 02:05:06,000
Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, between Thanksgiving and Christmas, I'm

2514
02:05:06,080 --> 02:05:08,400
Speaker 1: usally pretty slow just because I like to travel, and

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Speaker 1: so this particular year I traveled more than I usually

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Speaker 1: do between against Thanksgiving Christmas. So I went to Rome,

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Speaker 1: to Barcelona, to Dallas, to Denver and to Montico Bay, Jamaica,

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Speaker 1: and all of that in a month. And my business

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Speaker 1: still generated eighty seven thousand dollars and I was not present.

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Speaker 1: So you've got to look at how can you take

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Speaker 1: your intellectual property, how can you be the answer to

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Speaker 1: the people that need you, and how you package that

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Speaker 1: so they can work with you, and whether it be

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Speaker 1: online or some other way where again you're not present.

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Speaker 1: And then that's but not leasing a step outside your

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Speaker 1: comfort zone. Yes, because here's the thing. Comfort zones is

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Speaker 1: where dreams go to die. And I say that because

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Speaker 1: in order for you to do the thing that you

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Speaker 1: really really want, you're gonna have to do it afraid.

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Speaker 1: Let's ask listen, if we had Steve ive you on

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Speaker 1: here right now and he was living in his car,

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Speaker 1: you think you love living in his car? Heack to them.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure I Seann could tell the stories from back

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Speaker 1: then when Steve was living his car, or Tyler Perry

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Speaker 1: or even there, I say, Oprah who left her twenty

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Speaker 1: five years of her phenomenal TV show to start a

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Speaker 1: TV network, and most of us forget that that first

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Speaker 1: year it was the lowest rated television network out of

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Speaker 1: all the networks, networks we've never even heard of, and

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Speaker 1: yet Oh had to do the fraide. Sure she had

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Speaker 1: a great TV show, but she knew how to run

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Speaker 1: a network seven programming, and so what she had to

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Speaker 1: be willing to do is risk it all to gain

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Speaker 1: it Hall And that's the same thing you will have

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Speaker 1: to do, the same thing I had to do when

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Speaker 1: I started my business is I had to risk it

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Speaker 1: all to gain it all. I had to be willing

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Speaker 1: to be uncomfortable. That's really important that you know. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna I'm opening my new office in October. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to have a build a podcast studio in my new location.

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Speaker 1: And because I want to do some video, okay, and

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Speaker 1: I want to do some some some motivational videos with you.

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Speaker 1: I just know I have to because you know you're

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Speaker 1: special and your unique. You recommended I should interview you,

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Speaker 1: and I kind of knew you, but then they were

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Speaker 1: they were really and fatty, You're showing you gotta you

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Speaker 1: gotta talk. You know, you know, people start just shaking

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Speaker 1: their head to be staring at you kind of like

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Speaker 1: are they are they gonna kill me if I say no?

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Speaker 1: You know you gotta talk to you. They say, hull,

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Speaker 1: not h hanging on Hull and so and you're just brilliant,

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Speaker 1: and I just I really want to thank you for

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Speaker 1: coming on the show. And the Coole, Roberts, Joe and

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Speaker 1: r J Enterprises is a premier training and talent development

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Speaker 1: company dedicated helping you bank roll your brilliance. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk together talk again soon. You're fantastic. Uh definitely, Uh

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Speaker 1: send me. You can tell them to send you your

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Speaker 1: your contact information to me. So we sat down to talk. Okay,

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Speaker 1: sound good, good, I appreciate you. Stay safe, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: thank you all right. If you want to hear more

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