1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: This is Unbreakable with Jay Glazer, a mental health podcast 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: helping you out of the gray and into the blue. 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: Now here's Jay Glazer. What's happening to Gang? This is 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: Unbreakable a mental health podcast with Jay Glazer and listen. 5 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: I've talked many times in the past battling my own 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: mental health issues, my depression, anxiety, that I need teammates 7 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: and teammates coming all forms and shapes and sizes. The 8 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: guy I'm having them right now. He's one of my teammates, man, 9 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: and he's the former UFC Light heavyweight champ in the world, 10 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: but also now he's diving into the mental health game 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: as well with a new business. Listen, my job here 12 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: for this podcast is to give as many people options 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: that can to battle this thing we call life and 14 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: you know what goes on between the years as I 15 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: possibly can. And I'm kind of fascinating about what my 16 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: guest here with Sean Evans, is doing in his next 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: step of life, in his post fight career. Although I 18 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: think you're about to fight again, aren't you? But welcome 19 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: to Rich I haven't tell you doing, brother. What's up? 20 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: Jake Glazier? Man? What is It's a long time they'll 21 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 1: see you. Man, I feel like I've seen you so long. Baby. 22 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: I miss you. I miss you, I miss you. We 23 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: and Roshan and I have a long history together, a 24 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: fucking with each other as much as we possibly can. Right, 25 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: one time he lost a bet to me and he 26 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: had to do seven any time push ups, which right, 27 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: at any point I could call him wherever he is 28 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: and say, you gotta drop and give me ten push ups. 29 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: So one time I was in the gas station on 30 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: a filthy floor, right, one time you were you were 31 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: a club, right, and he looks like a complete jerk 32 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: off that you're just getting down doing pushups right in 33 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: the middle of, like in the middle of like a 34 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: dance floor the club, just like you know, he's already 35 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: a meet because he's a fighter, but now he's doing 36 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: push ups in front of the club. You got me 37 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: one time on airs, you see the problem get any 38 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: time pushing up with Jake Glaziers. The fact that Jay 39 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: Power trips on you, like he it's just like the 40 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: way that he says it. It's just such a it's 41 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: such a demean thing, you know. So I did it 42 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: on the air only every one time he and I 43 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: were hosting the UFC show and in the middle of 44 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: the show, I'm like now, he's like and he just 45 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: looks at me. I'm like now, And he had to 46 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: get up with the desk to do push up to 47 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: the producers, like, what is going on here? What is 48 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: going on? I just ignored him and he had to 49 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: get up with the desk to do anytime puts up. 50 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: Man you are I mean, you've done so much in 51 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: your life. And Els his brothers and and Rich is 52 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: also he's an ask to train with because he don't 53 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: let up. I'm kind of fascinated by where you're going 54 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: to her Tell everybody what you're doing your business partner 55 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: with Jake Plumber, who's a famous quarterback in the NFL. 56 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: Tell her what tell us about your business, how you 57 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: got into it, where it helps you know, I'm only here. Well, 58 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: I got into the whole mushrooms and functional mushrooms coming 59 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: from my career from the UFC. You know, like my 60 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: last few fights in the UFC, I just wasn't myself 61 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: and I just didn't have that feeling inside anymore. And 62 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: I was on my way out and I didn't really 63 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: know if that's the direction I need to go, but 64 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: something that I felt as if like I needed to 65 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: do and so. But during the round that time, you know, 66 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: I had a brain injury that kept me out of 67 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: New York, UH from getting license in New York. You know, 68 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: I was supposed to fight in New York Tim Kennedy, 69 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: but I didn't get the license because I had some 70 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: kind of brain injury that came up on by MR. 71 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: So when it came time for me to close that 72 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 1: doing my life for transition into the next phase of 73 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: my career, I was worried about my mental health. I 74 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: was worried about my brain. I was worried about you know, 75 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. Because I'm an analyst, and I was like, 76 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: you know, I want to still be able to talk. 77 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to sound a punchy. So I really 78 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: started to look at the things to kind of bring 79 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: me back, bring my mind back. And then that's when 80 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: I discovered mushrooms in general. It started off first with 81 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: the psychedelics, the psilocybin, but I ran across an interview 82 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: with Paul Stammon and UH and Joe Rogan. In the interview, 83 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: Paul Stamits, he talked about this combination that he uses 84 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: with psilocybin with lions, main mushrooms and nyacin. So I 85 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: started using that stack, and once I started using the stack, 86 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: I started feeling so much better, Like my mental clarity 87 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: came back. I felt as if like I started to 88 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: really turn the corner mentally speaking, even with my train. 89 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: I felt like I can finally get to the openings 90 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: that I was seeing that I couldn't before when I 91 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: felt like I was fading out. So once I started 92 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: to dive into the whole mushroom aspect, I really got 93 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: into functional mushrooms. Around the same time I that Jake Plumber, well, 94 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: function philocybin not legal yet, No, it's not, and functional 95 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: mushrooms are yeah yeah yeah so so yeah. So the 96 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: difference with the functional mushrooms in the psilocybin is, you know, 97 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: like you said, function psilocybin is the magic mushrooms, but 98 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: the people here about what you're saying, mushrooms where you 99 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: can and just for for transparency with people here, I 100 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: have done psilocybin mushroom journeys with therapists that have gotten 101 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: me to unlock things that I have spackled over in 102 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: childhood and just things that it has opened me up. 103 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: So this is not for me to say, hey, you 104 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: go do mushrooms. Not this is that was my choice 105 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: and my darkness is so deep and painful for me, 106 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: I am willing to push the limits and try to 107 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: do what I can to see some blue. So you know, 108 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: so this is why I am kind of fascinated here. 109 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: It didn't work for me, doesn't mean it can work 110 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: for somebody else, but it did help me, so go 111 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: keep going. Yeah, So so it helped me out tremendously, 112 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: Like it was like one of those things that kind 113 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: of removed a lot of the fog. But you know, 114 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: I really started to lean them more of the functional 115 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: mushroom aspect of it, because the functional mushrooms are legal, 116 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: but they have such tremendous effect to you know, what 117 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: are some of those called the functional emotions. So you 118 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: have the Turkey tale, which is like gut health, and 119 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: that's really good for people who was like having cancer 120 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: where anybody takes antibiotics because it feeds the natural gut 121 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: by the gut biome, and your gut, your gut is 122 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: your second brain. It's your second brain, right and and 123 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: it's in your immune system. So having a healthy gut. 124 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: It helps you stay healthy with you know, eighty five, 125 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: same with your immunity. So it's good to have a 126 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: huge tincture that you can use Turkey Tale for the 127 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: for that. Then you have the Lions Main. The Lions 128 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: Main is for cognitive function, and it's you know, it's 129 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: really really good for kind of uh clearing out your cognition, 130 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: but even just kind of focused in concentration to really 131 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: good for that. Then you have the Court of Steps. 132 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: It was good for respiratory health, and uh, then you 133 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: have the Ratio, which is good for like the overall 134 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: body type health. So Jake and I we were on 135 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: the same program because Jake was still coming from his 136 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: whole football thing and he was still trying to find 137 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: something to kind of help him get out of the 138 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: fog as well too, and we both kind of started 139 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: taking these functional mushrooms. Then once we met, you know, 140 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 1: we were kind of you know, on the same journey, 141 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: and we've we've done a few journeys together and we 142 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: did off a really close friendship. We met through a 143 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: guy named Dale Joudy out of Denver, one of our 144 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: good friends who kind of showed me the game with 145 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: the mushroom, and uh, when we talked about what these 146 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: mushrooms have done for us, you know, we're like, you know, 147 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: we gotta be able to get this back to people. 148 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: We gotta be able to find a way to kind 149 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: of pack yourself and get back to people. We tried 150 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: other mushrooms on the market, but we felt like there 151 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: was something missing, so we came with our own brand, 152 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: which is called Umbo. And you know, with Umbo, so 153 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: the umbo is the top of the mushroom, So you 154 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: have the mushroom capital a little top of a little 155 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: little bump that's called an embow. So that's what that's 156 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: what we named our confidence. Real quickly, when you say 157 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: you guys are in the fog, yeah, wasn't fogged from 158 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: head injuries. There was a fog of man, I don't 159 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: I don't know want to do next with my career. 160 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: You know, for me, it was it was a little 161 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: bit of both. You know, only can speak for myself, 162 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: but uh, it was the fog from kind of head injuries, 163 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: but also more or less, you know, just that transition. 164 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: That transition for me was really hard because I didn't 165 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: go out the way that I wanted to do. And 166 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: you know, I'm such a competitor and I wanted to 167 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: be able to to leave the sport on my terms, 168 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: you know. And I felt as leaving the UFC the 169 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: way that I did, losing five fights in a row, 170 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: it just wasn't me and it didn't represent the legacy 171 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: that I thought that I had, So it really bothered me. 172 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: You know. I struggle for a while to really find 173 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: my place, you know, in the next phase of my life, 174 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: and I really wanted to understand what that phase looked like. 175 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: So for me, it was I think it's a big 176 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: problem that. Look, nobody leaves their sport. It's very rare, 177 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: I should say, people leave the sport the way they 178 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: want to. Unless you're like Barry Sanders, You're like, I'm 179 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: out on top, right, nobody really does that. You're an athlete, 180 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: you're a warrior, so you're gonna hold on and bribe 181 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: that shield as long as you can. And I do 182 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: think that's a huge problem with a lot of our 183 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: athletes is then comparing themselves to what they used to 184 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: be instead of appreciating what you will have done the 185 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: height of your career. Absolutely absolutely, and that's something that 186 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: that's one of those lessons Jay that you know, I 187 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: had to really dig deep myself and I had to 188 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: really just you know, have some some some journey, some 189 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: of the psychedelic journeys that you talked about to kind 190 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,599 Speaker 1: of really get to the heart of the question and 191 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: really uncover some of the things that I was afraid 192 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: to look at, some of the things I was afraid 193 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: admit to myself. Started there, and once I was able 194 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: to start there just being honest with myself, I was 195 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: able to start to heal in some of the ways 196 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: and really started to get perspective on things I didn't 197 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: have perspective on, Like you, you're a world champion. Nobody 198 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: can take that from you, but you're never not going 199 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: to be a champion. You've done it? Are you able 200 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: to love yourself? Can see that? Yeah, I see it. 201 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: I definitely see it now. I definitely see it now. 202 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: But you know, during that time, you know, I gotta 203 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: be honest, it was it was a very hard phase 204 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: because it's not only just the way you see yourself, 205 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: but it's the way that you feel other people see you, 206 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,599 Speaker 1: you know, And that for me is like, you know, 207 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: your phone stops ringing as much. You know what I'm saying, 208 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: and people stop. You know, they treat you differently, even 209 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 1: even though they don't really mean to. They just kind 210 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: of treat you differently because there is no you know, 211 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: there's no there's no big caveat to really you know, 212 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: keeping that relationship with you like it was before. You know, 213 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: before they can you know, go and you know, go 214 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: to one of your fights or something like that. You know, 215 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,479 Speaker 1: but then once that all ends, everything is the relationship 216 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: that you had, the way you would treat you ends, 217 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: and it can be very difficult to deal with, you know, 218 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: just the whole transition. Yeah, I know, and I look, 219 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: I've been around a lot of football players. That's the 220 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: issue is, you know, they were let in the club 221 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: before anybody else, and now all of a sudden, you know, 222 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: those developt ropes don't open up, and it's hard for them, 223 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,599 Speaker 1: it is, and it's it's it's a humbling experience. You know, 224 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,599 Speaker 1: it's a truly humbling experience. But it's something that you 225 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: know when you're in, when you're in it and you're 226 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: living it, you don't ever see that it's gonna end. 227 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: You know, you just feel like it's just the way 228 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: that it is. From now when you get used to 229 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: that because you know, I was in the UFC for 230 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: so many seasons that I was doing my thing and 231 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 1: I was on top for so long. So for me, 232 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: it just felt like I can just keep on doing 233 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: this until I decided that I wasn't ready anymore. But 234 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: you know, the end has a different way of coming 235 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: for everybody, and it doesn't necessarily mean it's the end, 236 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: but it's more of less of a transition, and uh, 237 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: you know, having to hit that transition for me but 238 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: was something I really didn't expect, but it was something 239 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: that made me strong as a person to go through it. 240 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: And look, when I started m v P, a part 241 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 1: of it was for the athletes in there, and I 242 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: would tell all these football players and fighters, like, man, 243 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: you play in the NFL, is now who you are? 244 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: What's behind your rib kidge that got you to beat 245 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: out millions to play on this level. That's who the 246 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: funk you are that never goes away, that suddenly don't 247 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: just leave when the uniform comes off. And same for you, man, 248 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: just because you lay your gloves down that cage doesn't 249 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: mean that fighter and you ever dies, He's always there. 250 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: He's always been there. But who reminds you of that 251 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: when the lights kind of start turning off. Yeah, yeah, 252 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, man, And that's something that you know, 253 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: like I had to take about like four years off 254 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: and I went on a lot of different you know, 255 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: internal journey, so really trying to get to the really 256 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: heart of the matter. And once I was able to 257 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: start to get some kind of perspective, I felt that energy, 258 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: that love for the sport to start to come back. 259 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: So I started to train and I started to nurture it, 260 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: and I really started to just enjoy it from a 261 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: different perspective, you know. And once I was able to 262 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: enjoy it from a different perspective, that was healing in itself. 263 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: You know that that was my medicine, and that really 264 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: helped me to come to terms with with the way 265 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: that things were and really get to see the beauty 266 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: of it all, you know what I'm saying, and not 267 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: just look at as like, oh, I didn't go the 268 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: way that I wanted to in the end, because at 269 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I wouldn't have had it 270 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: gone any other way because I'm so happy with the 271 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 1: way I came out on the other side. But I 272 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: don't feel like I would have been able to come 273 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: out on the other side like this if I had 274 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: not went through that that at that time, that rough period. 275 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: What could you tell other fighters now, like the younger 276 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 1: guys or ready athlete, based on what you've been through, 277 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, I'll tell them to enjoy it, enjoy enjoy 278 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: every single minute of it, because you know, you're always 279 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: want to fight away from your last fight, and when 280 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: when it's over, it's over, you're gonna want to redo, 281 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 1: but there's no reduce. So the best thing to do is, 282 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: you know, enjoy every single moment of it. Because I 283 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: look back on those times and I can still close 284 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: my eyes and I can still feel the feeling of 285 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: just you know what it feels like the moments right 286 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: before I'm about to walk onto the cage, or you know, 287 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: right when I'm in a hotel room sitting and getting 288 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 1: ready for a fight, and I have that feeling of 289 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: you know, fear and anxiety and just you know, uber excitement. 290 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: All those feelings were were so much part of the 291 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 1: journey and made me feel alive and made just kind 292 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: of live from a different place. And when I think 293 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: back on those times, I think, like, man, I made 294 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: it a lot harder than I needed to make it 295 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: because I wasn't willing to just live in and enough. 296 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't understand how how fragile that that 297 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: that moment was, how how just a moment of time 298 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: that it was. You know, my mind played a trick 299 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: on me. And when when when I got on the 300 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: other side that I'm just like, man, what I wouldn't 301 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: give to be sick in the hotel room, getting ready 302 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: to throw up, not being able to sleep because I'm 303 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: getting ready to fight in a few hours. You know 304 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: that's excited, you know, so I would just tell them 305 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: just to enjoy it. Man, this is all part of 306 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: the journey. Yeah, that's the part of Goldie in the 307 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: Rainbow to climb itself. Yeah, that's what the rainbow. That's it. 308 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: It's it's the journey. It's it's going it's facing yourself. 309 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: You know what I'm since saying, Jay, It's being able 310 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: to face yourself. And that's one thing that I truly 311 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: miss about the fight game when it when it was done, 312 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: Like it's that moment of having a full training camp 313 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: and then having you know, your life still happening on 314 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: the outside, but then you gotta put it together for 315 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: one night. No matter if you wake up on that day, 316 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: feel on fight day and you feel like you don't 317 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: feel your best, you gotta put it together. And it 318 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: tells you a lot about yourself because you gotta come 319 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: from a place. And even in the fight when it 320 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: gets hard and you just look across the cage and 321 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: the guy still has a lot of energy and you 322 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: just gave it all, but you refuse to quit that 323 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: right there. It meant more to me than having my 324 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: hand raised. That moment, that moment right before your opponent 325 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: breaks or when he breaks and you look in his 326 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: eyes and he's done that right there. To me, that 327 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: gets me higher than anything, you know, that made me. 328 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: That made me happier than anything that made me happier 329 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: than raise my hand. And to me, that's what it 330 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: was all about. Yeah, that's again. That's when you can 331 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: take the ego out of having your hand raised or 332 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: not and just say, man, I'm gonna go in there 333 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: today and I'm gonna put all my hard work into 334 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: breaking somebody else. Yeah, and I'm just gonna make it 335 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: a horrible afternoon for that person across me. You take 336 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: that ego out, that makes you a dangerous fighter, absolutely, man, 337 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: absolutely because at the end of the day, well, what 338 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: I what I've come to realize is that it was 339 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: never about me competing with anybody. It was always about 340 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: me competing with myself. It was always about me getting 341 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: and tapping into that part of myself that was gonna 342 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: allow me to perform my best because no matter who 343 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: I went against, it was always about me and posing 344 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: my will on them. And it's about me finding that 345 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: gear inside of myself to do so, finding that mindset. 346 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: It was all between the years and the times that 347 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: I lost, I just mentally wasn't bringing myself there. Now 348 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: you know, we're talking about mental issues. So anybody who fights, 349 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: we're up going in right right. And then you know 350 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: that's problem with transition to is those that funked up 351 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: this doesn't suddenly just leave. You know, when the career 352 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: is over. It's still there. So now what are we 353 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: gonna find ourselves doing. The roommates on our head are 354 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: still fucking crazy right there, still sucking there. That's what 355 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: gets you to take three steps. So that's what gets 356 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: us to train over and over and put all those 357 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: hours in when nobody else is watching, and the injuries 358 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: we sustained and the fucking you want to throw up 359 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: in a fucking sauna and man, and I say, well, 360 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: just because I've trained with you, not that I've done 361 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: it like you, but it's it is a craziness and 362 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: it's the same thing like you know these football players, 363 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: like man, you gotta be fucked up to put a 364 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: helmet on and just smash your head and airan donnald 365 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: all day long, like there's something off about you. I 366 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: am proud of being off in that way. I have 367 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: found salace in knowing that I'm fucked up, but I'm 368 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: good with my funked up. This. When you saw that 369 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: you had brain injury, what did it make you? What 370 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: kind of emotions did that bring for you? You know, 371 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: it kind of brought, um, you know, a feeling of 372 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: of mortality to me. You know, I felt I felt 373 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: very mortal, and as I say, like you know, when 374 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: I'm when as a fighter, I felt indestructible as time. 375 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: You know, I felt as if like things happened, but 376 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: they're not gonna happen to me. But when when I 377 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: when I see that I had a brain injury, and 378 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: I've seen that, you know, it's something that couldn't get 379 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: worse as I got older. It kind of scared me 380 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: because the worst thing and and one of my biggest 381 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: fears was, you know, being trapped in my body, you know, 382 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: having having something like Muhammad Ali, you know, got arrest 383 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: his soul or somebody else who has those kind of 384 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: injuries where you know it manifesting them, just kind of 385 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: being a prisoner of the body until the end of days. 386 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, man, I don't I don't want 387 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: that for myself. So it scared me, man, And I 388 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 1: was like, what am I gonna do with the rest 389 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: of my life? You know, I didn't. I didn't want 390 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: that for myself. So I really wanted to find some 391 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: way to heal myself in a natural way and something 392 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: I was going to uh be it be a life 393 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: changeing thing, a lifestyle changeing thing for me. Tell me 394 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: more about like just what you've learned about the the 395 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: mushroom industry, and because I'm starting to see a lot 396 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: of these companies stuff. Yeah, so, so the mushroom industry 397 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: is huge, you know, it is, right, It's where cannabis 398 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: was years ago, and it's gonna go beyond that because 399 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: of the benefits of these mushrooms. You know, these mushrooms 400 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: are are are amazing with kind of you know, healing 401 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: the neurological body, you know. And and when we look 402 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: at what we call old age, that's typically a lot 403 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: of neurogenesis, right, it's a neuropathy, you know, we get 404 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: the all zonomerss, we get you know, you know, the 405 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: Parking sans, and we get a bunch of things that 406 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 1: kind of ends up to just, uh, you know, neuropathy 407 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: because of the fact that we're we're ingesting these toxins, 408 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 1: where in a toxic environment with stress and all these 409 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: different things, and it takes a toll on a neurological body. 410 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: So these mushrooms do a great job of just rerouting 411 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: the neurological body. But not only that, you know, you 412 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: talk about with the psilocybin. The psilocybin has has so 413 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: many benefits when it comes to healing your body from 414 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: a neurological standpoint, you know, um physically speaking to use 415 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: of physical therapy, but even from emotional standpoint and really 416 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: getting perspective. And I feel like that's one thing that 417 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: we all lack in a lot of different ways, you know, 418 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 1: because it takes time to get perspective. But in order 419 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: to go through that, you know that time, you gotta 420 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: take a lot of bumps on the head until you 421 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: get that perspective. Well, when you do psilocybin, it's like 422 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: it takes you out of that that in close framework, 423 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: so then you can kind of sit back and then 424 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: you can see the whole entire picture. And then when 425 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: you come back the games that you learn it becomes 426 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: your new true north because it's something that you realize 427 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: yourself versus going to a therapist and having them speak 428 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: until you over and over again about it, so you 429 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 1: start to believe in yourself. So there's so many benefits 430 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: with these mushrooms, and you know, with Umbo, you know, 431 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: we're really focusing on the functional mushroom because we believe 432 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: that the functional mushrooms have so much benefit, just like 433 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: the psilocybin does. And you know, think about this, there's 434 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: only ten really truly known what mushrooms can do. So 435 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: this is the whole entire kingdom that we've kind of 436 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: you know, admitted out of our diet. But once we 437 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: start to really put it back into our diet and 438 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: we start to understand what the impact these mushrooms can do. 439 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be astounded. But I've been over 440 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: the years, I've been prescribed like over thirty antidepressants and 441 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 1: anti anxieties and um, and they haven't worked. I had 442 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: one that worked in anti anxiety for about two weeks 443 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: and then my body just synthesizes things really fast and 444 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, it doesn't work. You know, me, 445 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: I'm like a rhino, Like man, it takes three times 446 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: the amount of things to work on me. So and 447 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: and this is to say, like man, whenever somebody I 448 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: have a friend who has an anti anxiety matter or 449 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: antidepressant that works for them, I'm I'm like jealous, Like 450 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: I'm happy for them, but I'm jealous, and like man, 451 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: I always want them to work. So I always want 452 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: people to yes, like if med's works, we like definitely 453 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: used meds, but I had to go out of the 454 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: box to try and find other ways. You know, I 455 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: knew a lot of our veterans we're using so salmon 456 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: and trying that, and and I heard more fighters us 457 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: into something like you know, I'm gonna give a shot. 458 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: And it did. It really got me to see, like 459 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: you're saying I got to take a step out and 460 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: see everything from childhood UM from a different lens and 461 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: then go and use what I learned there with my 462 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: therapist moving forward. But it also it it got me 463 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: to stop beating up on myself for why was a 464 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: certain way? It got mean to understand more why it 465 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: was a certain way. Once you able to do that, 466 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: it's you that see it right and and it's nothing 467 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: that nothing to anybody needs to convince you of it. 468 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: It becomes a true north for you and a true 469 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: understanding for you. You know. One of the biggest tools 470 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: that I used that one of the medicines that I 471 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: did UM you know I've I've you know done Ayahuaska 472 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: journeys and things like that. It was a five M 473 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: e O d mt dyeah that the toad for me 474 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: that to me was was one that truly UM was 475 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: was the most actful for me because it truly UH 476 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: allowed me to have a perspective all myself and on 477 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,959 Speaker 1: all of this around me, which I didn't even have before. 478 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: So when I came back into the physical I I 479 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: no longer seemed like the same way. It was almost 480 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: as if like did you die during your oh I died. Yeah, 481 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: I definitely, Yeah, you're not literally dying. You you think 482 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,959 Speaker 1: you've died, And yeah, I didn't die, but I'll tell 483 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: you my experience. But when I had my experience, you know, 484 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: it was just kind of you know, uh it was 485 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: it was right when I was, you know, thinking about 486 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: whether I should retire or whether I should go on 487 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: with the rest of my career. So I needed some answers, 488 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: and uh, when I did this medicine, it really, um 489 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: it blew me out of my socks, like to the 490 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: point where, you know, right out the gate, I'm just like, oh, 491 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: I felt like, oh man, I killed myself. But then no, 492 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: sooner than I had that thought, I then had a 493 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: knowing this kind of tell me that you've done this 494 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: millions of times, You've done as colendars of time. This 495 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: is what you are. And then I had like this 496 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: beautiful feeling of just this connectedness and it's it's truly 497 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: something to be hold and not to be told, because 498 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: it's there's really no words for it. Right there. It's 499 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,479 Speaker 1: a place where there's there's really no words that can 500 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: can truly describe the difference between you know, this reality 501 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: and a reality and which we are truly a part 502 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: of you know that that's that's that's that's part of 503 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: this collective and which connects you and I and every 504 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: single sentient and every single thing in existence altogether. It's 505 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: not legal America. You gotta go elsewhere. I've gone elsewhere. 506 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 1: But so my experience with d MT it's actually where 507 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: the my term the great came from. So I did this, 508 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: and people it's a ten minute trip, right that, that's it, 509 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: unless and some people throw up like I didn't. I'm 510 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: afraid to throw up during anything and purds because when 511 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: my love asked for a couple of years ago, you know, 512 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: and you know, and I almost died from from that. 513 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: I'm just not willing to have that happened to me again. 514 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 1: So but what happened was like I do this trip, 515 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: and man, I go through this dark maze of this 516 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,120 Speaker 1: gray this gray maze, and going through the gray maize, 517 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: going through the gray maids, going through this gray made 518 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, bom, I come in and 519 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in heaven, and I feel and 520 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: I see like the most beautiful kaleidoscope colors like you 521 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: could ever see, and I start smiling from ear to 522 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: ear like where it hurts to smile that much, and 523 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: the therapist is with me, she's giggling because of my 524 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: goofy has smile, but how much I'm smiling. And then 525 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: I started to cry and she said, what are you crying? 526 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: But I said, well, I finally felt what it was 527 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: like to be happy, and I said, this was my life. 528 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: I've been through all this gray. My whole life is 529 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: that gray. And then I felt, for the first time 530 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: in my life, I felt that lou and I saw 531 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: that blue, and I felt the way I'm supposed to feel. 532 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: But then I felt bad for that guy who only 533 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: gets to live in that gray. And that's why I 534 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: started crying. Yeah, that's deep, that's that's that's so deep 535 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: because when I when I came back to I was 536 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: crying as well too. You know, for me, it was 537 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: like I just couldn't believe that I forgot. I couldn't 538 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 1: believe I forgot what what I'm true, what I truly am. 539 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: Just that realization and that understanding of just how hard 540 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: I've I've made life and I didn't really need to 541 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: make it that hard. The understanding of just of what 542 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: I am and what this truly is. It was such 543 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: a freeing thing for me that allowed me to put 544 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: a lot of the fear that I had down, a 545 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: lot of the baggage that I doubt, the emotional baggage 546 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: that I had, allowed me to put it down, and 547 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: allowed me to just um live from a different place. 548 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: Like if you wanted the pression comes out, I'm gonna 549 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: try it. Like I'm not gonna stop working on myself, 550 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: the same way I won't stop working on myself physically. 551 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna stop work to myself. Between years. It's 552 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: easier for me for gains physically than it is between 553 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: my ears. You can really quantify the gains physically speaking, 554 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: but it's really hard to quantify the gains uh mentally 555 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: in between the years. And one thing that I've started 556 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: to do it kind of helped me, you know, get 557 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: past it. And you know, I started to to write 558 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 1: right down. I start to really write down and really 559 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 1: start to to read my words out of journal Yeah. 560 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: I started to journaling and that helps me out a lot, 561 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: because there's some things that you you can't tell people right, 562 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: or you don't want to tell people, or you don't 563 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: know how to put it in words. You you ever 564 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: really worked it out yet in your mind to really 565 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: put it in words and even just come there's some 566 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: things you just want to keep to yourself. So fighting 567 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: and finding a way to write these things down, write 568 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: my thoughts out, just allowing me to just kind of 569 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: have that emotional diarrhea on on paying and paper. It 570 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: has been such a healing thing for because then now 571 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: I can go back and I can read it, and 572 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: then off of reading it, I can then start to 573 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: you know, start start to have a different look at myself. 574 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: I can get perspective, right, I can get perspective on 575 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: what I wrote down and think, Okay, well where was 576 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: I at emotionally when I was writing it down? So 577 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: it is it has been a really good tool for 578 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: me to use to kind of get perspective on myself. 579 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: But even just kind of find some way to emotionally 580 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: vent without having to tell somebody. I want every dude 581 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: Ansor to hear this and realize, these are two bad 582 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: motherfuckers who were talking about crying, talking about our emotions, 583 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: talking about our feelings. If we could do that, then 584 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: so could everybody else. I do want us to pave 585 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: the way for others in this way. The more dudes 586 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: could start talking about their ship, the more dudes will 587 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: not be so apt to put a revolver in their mouth. 588 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: You know that that's the problem when when we talk 589 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 1: about this kind of masculinity that that we've all agreed 590 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: to without even agreed to in society, that you know, 591 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna be a man that doesn't really show an 592 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: emotions and a man that you know who does emotions. 593 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: This week and all these different things that we've come 594 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: to know that really made us feel as if like 595 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: we we can't be vulnerable with ourselves. You know, it 596 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: felt like at one point in my life, like I 597 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: felt like the tear ducts just dried up, like I 598 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: just couldn't cry, and also emotionally constipated. I just I 599 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: didn't know how to feel. I didn't I really didn't 600 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: know how to feel a lot of times, and I 601 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: would do things just to see if I could feel, 602 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, Like I I wanted 603 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: to feel something, but I really I couldn't feel anything 604 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,120 Speaker 1: because I've I've stuffed those feelings, and I stuffed those 605 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: feelings for so long to the point where I didn't 606 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: know how to express it anymore. I didn't know how 607 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: to let it out anymore. But when I finally was 608 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: able to let it out, I'm like, it felt so good, 609 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: and it really showed me that that's where I need 610 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: to live from in order to be my best meat. 611 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,719 Speaker 1: That's the place where I need to live from. Another thing, 612 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: I write about my book to get people through the 613 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: grays laughter, And there's no way I have reshot my 614 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: shows about him making me laugh my ass off and 615 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: you all laugh with this story. So he has this 616 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: next to a neighbor, right, it's an old Jewish man 617 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: who lives across the street in Boca, and rashot, I'm 618 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: gonna let you tell the world here and let us 619 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: laugh about your first interaction with Ira across the street. Yeah. 620 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: So when I first moved, I lived across the street 621 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,719 Speaker 1: from this old guy, and it's like a retirement home 622 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: a lot of places, you know, And I lived in 623 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: this gated community. So I have a new car and 624 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: I leave the drive that my garage shore open. I 625 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: go in the house and my girl comes out in 626 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: the house and say, hey, there's there's some guy in 627 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: our drive in our in our garage. I'm like, wait what, 628 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: So I go and there sure is this guy looking 629 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: at my car and he's like just inspecting it, and 630 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: you're just like, you know, uh, what'd she get you for? 631 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: And I was like, what do you mean, well with 632 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: with the car cost? Shot? And I was like, oh, 633 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: I told him with the price of car, no, not mad. 634 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: And then he said, she looks like she goes, she 635 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: goes fast. How how fast she get her? And I 636 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: was like, I got a pretty fast. Oh you know, 637 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: I probably can do a little bit better, you know, 638 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: like you should reach you and I used to, you know, 639 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: get on it. And I'm like okay. So he always 640 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: comes with this like he never leaves right the right way. 641 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: He's just like all right and just walks off. One 642 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: time he came in. I got a new chandelier. And 643 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: then he comes and he looks at the chandelier and 644 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,959 Speaker 1: he's just like, wow, she's she's a beauty. You can 645 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: see my chandelier from the street. It's like you She's like, wow, 646 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: she's she's a beauty. My uh my wife, she she 647 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: likes this chandelier. I was like, oh man, that's cool. 648 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: Well thanks to you. Now, I uh, I have to 649 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: go get a new one. And he just walked off 650 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: one time. No, no, till the first time you met him, oh, 651 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: the first time, the last time, oh the first time, 652 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: the first time I met him. He comes to the 653 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: house and he says, uh, so, uh, you're the colored boxer. 654 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: And I don't even flinch at the fact that he 655 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: said color. I'm just like, I'm like, no, I don't, 656 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: I don't box, I just do I just glanced over 657 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: the color apart and then he says, M M may, 658 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: which which which M may? And I was like, well, 659 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: you know it's in the cage where you're fighting. He's like, oh, oh, 660 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: you're you're one of those guys. Huh huh. Well to 661 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: each their own, and he just walked off of neighborhood. 662 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: My brother, I love you, man. Tell everybody what the 663 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: website is to go up. You want to get some 664 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: of these are functional mushrooms. Go to get humble dot 665 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: com and you can put in rashot fifteen and get 666 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: fifteen per cent off, so let the people know who 667 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: sent you. I'm putting in yeah, but yeah, guys, go 668 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: check it out. Functional mushrooms. It's the best thing to 669 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: heal you're neurological body, make you feel good and uh, 670 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: and previously quality to be passionate about. Man, I'm you 671 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: know again every one of my guys retire as I 672 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: worry because that transition sucks. Right, there's no guide book 673 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: for transition. It fucking sucks. So I love you to 674 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: see you found something to be passionate about, brother, and folks, 675 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: if you haven't gotten my book, also here it's a 676 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: breakable How I turned my depression anxiety and the motivation 677 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: you can too. And you know there's chapters in there 678 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: about having great teammates. Uh. And Rashot certainly is one 679 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: of my best teammates E ever had in my life. Jay, 680 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: I love you, man, I appreciate brother, appreciate you man,