1 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast from the Volume Podcast Network. 2 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: I am Chadmill and we will be continuing our run 3 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: through every team in every division in both conferences in 4 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: the NFL UH this upcoming Thursday. But we do want 5 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: to take a quick pause because College Football Week zero 6 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: starts this Saturday. We got five games, five August games, 7 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: five scheduled games that are happening in the COVID era 8 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 1: that knock on would They're not being rescheduled, they're not 9 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: being canceled. We got some big name teams going. Speaking 10 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: of big names, the Action Network made a massive, massive 11 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: higher last week. We brought in Quip pop subly, the 12 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: most respected Capital J journalist in all of college football, 13 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: and the first thing he did was break a story 14 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 1: about Nebraska. I'm talking about America's college football insider, Mr 15 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: Brett McMurphy, and he's gonna come on the show in 16 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: a few minutes. We're gonna talk about a little bit 17 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: about the situation in Nebraska and the story he broke 18 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: last week. And then today it's Tuesday. It's Tuesday after 19 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: nume right now today on Action Network dot com and 20 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: in the Action Network app, he put out a piece 21 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: that he'll be updating throughout the year, UM every single week. 22 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: He is a master at projecting UH both scenarios, and 23 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: so his first piece for projecting both scenarios came out today. 24 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna run through that. He's got a prediction for 25 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: the College football National Championship. We've got point spreads for 26 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: all those games. It's gonna be fascinating. We're gonna talk 27 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: about that first. Of course, I'm gonna bring in my BFF, 28 00:01:55,360 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: my companion, Mr Simon Hunter. Hello, sewing man, this is 29 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: the best time of year. Like you just said, college 30 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: football starts next week. That just makes a fly by 31 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,119 Speaker 1: two right for me too, the NFL starts. But yeah, 32 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: the fans are happy, all my clients are happy. Had 33 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: another undefeated weekend giving out picks on the action app 34 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: UM Life is Good Man. Download it follows Stimon Simon 35 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: Hunter's picks up a thousand followers in just two weeks 36 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: on that app. That's how good I've been done. Man. 37 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 1: You you know what you are. Talk to me. You're 38 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: a gift. You're a gift to all of us, and 39 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: you're a professional like I wish. I wish everybody who 40 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: we hired and I'm not saying this for Ben McMurphy's benefit, 41 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: because he is a fucking pro. I wish everyone we 42 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: hired came in and was like as thoughtful about promotion 43 00:02:52,520 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: of the product, about commitment, about how they drive you, 44 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: because Simon, you are a goddamn gift. I tried, Chad, 45 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: and I try to explain to the fans here. If um, 46 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: you're betting a hundred dollars on my bets and you're 47 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: betting a hundred dollars on your your random picks that 48 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: you think are smart, you're either an idiot or you're 49 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: a narcissist. Stop betting the same amount of my bets 50 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: as you bet on your own bets. You don't know 51 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: what you're doing. Listen to your professionals, listen to our advice. 52 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: Bet more on my picks and your own pis. I 53 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: don't know. It's I've had plenty of people hit me 54 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: up there like, hey, how good do you feel about 55 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: this bet? And it's like, if I put it in 56 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,399 Speaker 1: the app, I'm feeling pretty good about it. I don't 57 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: just put it in there just to put it in 58 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: there again. Someone reach out to me, Chad. They said, 59 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: no more unit talk because Chad said, So listen to Chad, 60 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: who are these people? From now on? I'm a units 61 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: guy from now on, So I want like sacking in 62 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: dollar amounts, only in units. Listen, Simon, I think you 63 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: know there's no bigger narcissist on this podcast than me. 64 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: And I won't even make bets that you don't make. 65 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: Chad Milman is proud of himself. That's it. That's all 66 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: there is to it. We do have a lot of 67 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: NFL stuff to talk about. The one thing I do 68 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: want to say, there are there are very early rumblings 69 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: because Matt Nagy has said that Andy Dalton will be 70 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: on a short lease. Dude, I'm not even talking about 71 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: the second game of the preseason for the Bears. I'm 72 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: not talking about Mitch Drobiski. The only thing that matters 73 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: is that in Game one, Justin Fields was brilliant. And 74 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: I don't care that there was now a meme of 75 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: him getting his head blown off that says I thought 76 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: the game really slowed down for me, and that you 77 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: were making front of that. It doesn't matter Justin Fields, 78 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears, this is our guy, most consequential draft pick 79 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: in my fifty year lifetime. I'm gonna Scott, I don't 80 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: even touch them Mitch thing, because I already know. I 81 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: mean that all Bear fans must have just been sitting 82 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: there and saying, oh my god, if you just surround 83 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: Mitch with a competent coaching staff, he might actually be 84 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: pretty good. So that that is a Bearris fan and 85 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: was truly a snack. I'm not even telling you. I'm 86 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: not even telling you. So on Saturday, I went to 87 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: the uh as you guys know, after the podcast. On Thursday, 88 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: I went to the city. I was there all day. 89 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: I was there Thursday night, Friday, and then Friday night, 90 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: my older son who's going to college in a couple 91 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: of weeks, met me in the city. We had dinner together, 92 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: walked around the village. It was beautiful, great night. Got 93 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: to spend twenty four hours, you know, father suntime. I 94 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: loved every second of it. Saturday, during the day, We're 95 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 1: running around the city all day, so I'm not watching 96 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: the Bears game, and every two minutes my buddy Matt, 97 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: whose kid who we visited in California, whose kid I 98 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: was I was going to tote toe with about Mac 99 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: Jones and Justin Fields. Um No, joke. Matt is calling 100 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: me as we speak right now. How weird is that? Uh? 101 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: He was texting me every two seconds? Can we fire 102 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: a coach midway through the second game of preseason? Because 103 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: that's how we're disgusting disgust today. I'm by Matt Nagy 104 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: right now now. It's so hard life. I love too 105 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: that me and you predicted about four months ago, no 106 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: matter what, any Dalton's gonna start week one. I think 107 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: Naggy just came out and said, no matter what, any 108 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: Dolton starting week one. So it's crazy how simple and 109 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: basic that they are really keeping it over there. But 110 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: again we'll see. I have higher hopes, like as you do, 111 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: for Justin Fields's upcoming season. So you know what else, 112 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: I have high hopes for the level of journalism. The 113 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: quality of journalism at the Action Network has been raised 114 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: because when we when we got on the call and 115 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: you saw Brett McMurphy, you said, it's an honor to 116 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: have a professional on this podcast. Essentially, that's what you said. Essentially, Brett, 117 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: you're a journalistic sensation. How does that make you feel? 118 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm out into Simon to follow on my 119 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: Action app. As we speak, sorry, there we go. Good 120 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 1: jobs on early retirement, Brett. It's the smartest Chadham turning 121 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: my two weeks noticed, I am super pumped. Man. I'm 122 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: so excited. You know. I've only been here a short 123 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: week and just everybody I've dealt with has been incredible. 124 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: Still trying to figure my way around, uh around this place, 125 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: but I love it and so excited and as I 126 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: as I told you, um, you know in the past 127 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: few weeks, I think Action is a rocket ship and 128 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: I'm glad to be a part of it. We are 129 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: a freaking rocket ship. You are the fuel that is 130 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: going to drive us into the next universe. You come 131 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: on last week, forty eight hours after starting, you break 132 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: the story about Scott Frost and Nebraska. I love that. 133 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: As soon as you broke it, we had three or 134 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: four stories breaking down the betting implications for Nebraska this season. 135 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: It's now been a week since the story broke. Tell 136 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,119 Speaker 1: us the latest and what's happening with Nebraska, what's happening 137 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: with Scott Frost, what's happening with the investigation, and what 138 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: the reper concussions? Maybe yeah, Chad, Well being investigation continues. 139 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: There's been no resolution of it that you know. With 140 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: the n c A one thing I've learned is never 141 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: to predict what you think the outcome will be or 142 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: how long it will take. So this thing could be 143 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: resolved tomorrow, it could be resolved at the end of 144 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: the year, and then ultimately we'll see what the penalties are. Look, 145 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: I don't think the allegations are that serious. I don't 146 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: think the penalties are going to be that severe. You 147 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: may see Frost suspended a game or two possibly when 148 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: they do finally finalize their findings. However, I think big picture, 149 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: you look at it this way. Scott Frost was already 150 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: on the hot seat entering this year. He's the first 151 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: coach in sixty years with three consecutive losing seasons in Nebraska. 152 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: In March, I reported broke the news that Frost and 153 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 1: Nebraska we're trying to get out of the O U game, 154 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: which is unheard of. It is the fifth it's the 155 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: fiftieth anniversary of the nineteen seventy one Game of the 156 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: Century Number one Nebraska, number two. Oh you, they tried 157 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: to get out of that game game to play a 158 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: home game against a group of five team. Add to that, 159 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: you've got a new athletic director and Trev Alberts. So 160 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: now you've got the n c A investigation. So now 161 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: if Nebraska wants to make a move after the season, 162 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: they don't even have to reference the losing. They don't 163 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: even have to reference the Oklahoma debacle. They can they 164 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: can roll the n c A allegations out there to 165 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: be the easy way out. But Scott Frost went from 166 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 1: being on the hot seat and college football too. Now 167 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: I think he is on the hottest seat in college football. 168 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: And it's funny to call a the first game of 169 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: the year it must win, but that's a must win 170 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: game against Illinois. They cannot lose that game to Illinois 171 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: because I think then everything is just gonna snowball and 172 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna be impossible for Frost to dig out of that. 173 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: I'm always a little bummed, and call me sentimental. I'm 174 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: always a little bummed when the college hero goes back 175 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: to his school and it just it fails miserably. I 176 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: am a huge fan of the romanticism of people going 177 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: back to where they're from, having great success, being there 178 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: for as long as they want. It's sort of blossoming 179 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: into this magnificent love affair that goes on for fifty years. 180 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: Is anyone else as sentimental as me? Simon? Do you 181 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: do you get the fields from those potential stories? I 182 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: done at all, a Chad, That's what makes you so unique, 183 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: It's true, Brett, do you get the fields? Can can 184 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: the Capital J get the fields? Yeah? Absolutely? And you 185 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: know what if you can? You know, look at Freezing 186 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: Cold takes Twitter account right now, and I'm sure you 187 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: can find me and probably another fifty other journalist that 188 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: thought this was a great, great higher I mean, he 189 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: went turned around UCFS program, he went thirteen to know 190 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: a UCF Um the favorite son comes home to Nebraska. 191 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: I thought everyone thought he would be a success. They're 192 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: kind of like Jim harbaught Michigan. But those things don't 193 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: always work out that way. Um, when you are in 194 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: a LUM, I think it buys you more time at 195 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: that university. I think people are willing to cut you 196 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: a break if you will. They're not as eager to 197 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: pull the trigger and maybe move on. Um. But certainly 198 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: I think Frost is getting near the end of that 199 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: grace period. Well he's certainly the honeymoon is definitely over. 200 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: But you know now, they're to the point of, well, 201 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: whether he's an a lum or not, we've got to 202 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: turn this thing around, and if he's not the guy 203 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: to do it, we'll find somebody else. What do you 204 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: think happened there? What went wrong for him? You know, 205 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: chat it's impossible point the finger at one specific thing. 206 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: All I look back on is when Bo Pollini was 207 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: coaching Nebraska. He told me this when I had a 208 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: one on one interview with him, and it really struck 209 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: with me, and he basically said, look, the challenge for 210 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: Nebraska is their fan base, which is arguably the greatest 211 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: in the country, remembers the glory days of the seventies, 212 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: the eighties, the nineties. Well, back then, Nebraska was a 213 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: handful of teams that were on television every week, so 214 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: it was easy for them to recruit from California. It 215 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: was easy for them to get Microzier to leave New 216 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: Jerry and come to Nebraska. Well, what happened, ESPN happened 217 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: now every team in the country is on TV. You 218 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: don't have to go across the country to play for 219 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: a team that's on TV every week. And the other 220 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 1: thing is leaving the Big Twelve. When they left the 221 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: Big twelve. Yes, it made sense financially to go to 222 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: the Big Ten, certainly now with what's going on the 223 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: conference realignment. But you know what it also did. It 224 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: also cut off the pipeline to Texas. You no longer 225 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: can recruit the Texas athlete because you're no longer playing 226 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: the schools from Texas. So you can't go down to 227 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: Texas and tell mom and dad, hey, your son is 228 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: gonna play in the state two or three times a 229 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: year in our conference because now you no longer play 230 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: in Texas. So now they're no longer a national recruiting threat. 231 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: They can no longer get kids out of the state 232 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: of the Texas, one of the top three states in 233 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: the country. And what bo Polini told me, Brett, this 234 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: is the hardest university in the country, big time university 235 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: to recruit to for those reasons, and also because in 236 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: the state of Nebraska you simply don't have that many 237 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: pality Division one players to chat. I think it's a 238 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: combination of all those things, and it's um it's unfortunate. Again, 239 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: Nebraska I think has the greatest fan base in the country, 240 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: and it's hard for them to swallow. Um the losing 241 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: that they've gone through in these past, you know, half 242 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: dozen years. All right, Well, listen, you mentioned ESPN and 243 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: in your story that was posted today projecting everything from 244 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 1: the National Championship Game who's going to be in it 245 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: throughout sort of basically every single bowl game, of which 246 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: there is two bowl games. You had a really interesting comment, Simon, 247 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: I bet you gotta take on this too as a 248 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: sports fan and is a better You basically noted that 249 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: the postseason in college football is controlled by ESPN and 250 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 1: explain sort of the construct and how the postseason work 251 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: today for people who might not really understand it, especially 252 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: since we're, you know, a couple of years from moves 253 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: from a regular bowl uh schedule, right, So I'll try 254 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: to make this as short as possible, But basically, last 255 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: year started the new six year cycle of all these 256 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: bowl games and their conference high ends. Last year, obviously 257 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: COVID that was everything was tossed to the side. They 258 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: just want to play as many games as possible. So 259 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: this basically is the first year of the new cycle. 260 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: What that means is the previous conference tie ins for 261 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: each bowls from before have now changed. The biggest change 262 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: that you're referring to is. Now, there are at least 263 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: twelve bowls that are owned, but they're actually there's sixteen 264 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: bowls that are owned by ESPN. Twelve of those bowl 265 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: games basically do not have conference affiliations. So if you're 266 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: a fan of the MAC, if you're a fan of 267 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: the Mountain West, if you're the American Conference USA, whatever, 268 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: you cannot say with a certainty we are going to 269 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: the Year Bowl, for example, because ESPN owns that bowl. 270 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: And so what they're doing is they are determining when 271 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: we get to the first Sunday in December, they will 272 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: announce what two teams from those five group of five 273 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: conferences will go playing that game. It doesn't matter what 274 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: conference they're in. And there's twelve of those games that 275 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: are all intertwined, and basically ESPN has to figure that 276 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: out based on the number of bowl games per conference. 277 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: So it's not gonna be the old days where you 278 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: simply could say, well, we know this game is gonna 279 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: be Big twelve versus SEC, or a C C versus 280 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: Pack twelve. Now it's basically there's a pool of tea, 281 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: a pool of conferences for those twelve games owned by ESPN. 282 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: So that's basically gonna be ESPN. The puppet master will 283 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: sit there and determine who goes to those games. Some 284 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: fan bases will be happy, some won't be happy. But 285 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: when you own sixteen of the forty two Bowl games, 286 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: that's what you have the power to do. As someone 287 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: like I've never met any of the Brakes News, I've 288 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: always wanted these questions. There's so many questions I have 289 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: for the break News. But I wonder, like, how many 290 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: phones do you have? Like I have a phone that 291 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: I give out for you know, I give the chat 292 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: that's my regular phone number. And I have a phone 293 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: that's like my burner phone, my batline, which I give 294 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: out the other professional gamblers and other guys where I 295 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: always keep two phones on me because if that phone 296 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: is buzzing, I know that it's like I have to 297 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: pick up that phone was breaking new people. The same thing, 298 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: like you give out certain numbers of certain people because 299 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: it's like, all right, this is more important information than 300 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: just my regular phone I use every day. Starry disappoints 301 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: to only I only have one phone. It's a landline. 302 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: Now I'm kidding, I do just I did just have 303 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: one phone. But what you say you know, it's kind 304 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: of my thinking. There's literally like five people, five of 305 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: my sources that I value more than anybody else. Like 306 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: if they text me right now and said the world 307 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: is ending, I would be tweeting the world is ending 308 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: and say, hey, guys, I gotta get off this call 309 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: without confirming it. That's how much I trust these guys. 310 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: That's how much I know they know, they know what 311 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: my job is. They're not going to give me bad information. 312 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: And then and then below that, you have a you know, 313 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,719 Speaker 1: variet dozens and dozens of sources. They give you all 314 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: kinds of tips. Some are good, some are bad. Um, 315 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: and then I follow it that way. But yeah, sorry, 316 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: unless chattle expense it. I'm just stuck with one phone. 317 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: Have a certain ring tone, no, but show you a 318 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: little inside into what I think is comedy. My ring 319 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: tone is the theme song from Curb Your Enthusiast Summon. 320 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: By the way, I'm so glad you asked that question 321 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: because one of the things Brett and I while we 322 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: both worked at ESPN, because ESPN like is so sort 323 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: of strange and how it constructs its organization, even though 324 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: I oversaw all of the digital and that included you know, 325 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: most of the people who are doing breaking news on 326 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 1: a day to day basis. Brett came in through the 327 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: television side, and so Brett was actually not in my 328 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: ORC So he and I didn't get to know each 329 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: other very well when we were both at ESPN, and 330 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: so I've really got to know him mostly like in 331 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: a recruiting process when I was, you know, trying to 332 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: woo him to come join us at Action and I 333 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 1: was struck by the level of intensity about breaking news, 334 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: about sourcing, like he is passionate about this and manic 335 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: about this. And so my question is about breaking news, 336 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: is it something that makes you nervous every day that 337 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 1: you're missing something? Actually, it's weird. It's like, as I 338 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: get further along in my career, went like, for instance, 339 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: the Nebraska story, as I'm getting ready to push the 340 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: sin button, and because i know the reaction it's going 341 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: to have, you know, I can't underestimate that. And I'm 342 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: not trying to make oh I'm some big guy or whatever, 343 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: but I know I know the impact of that. When 344 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: you're working on these things, you kind of know when 345 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 1: you're the only one that has something. There's other times 346 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: where you know everybody's gonna get this within five minutes, 347 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 1: so I've got a hurry up. So actually sometimes I 348 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: get nervous, like when I'm getting ready to push the 349 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: button and think, okay, do I have everything lined up? 350 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: Is there something? Did I triple check this? Did I 351 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: double check this? And kind I want to make sure 352 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: because and I tell you know, when I speak to 353 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: young journalists, I tell him this, and it's actually something 354 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: that John Calipari said something similar. He's like, you know, 355 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: nobody's gonna remember the hundreds of stories I got right. 356 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: They're going to remember the one you got wrong. And 357 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: like Calipari said, nobody's gonna remember the year we went there, 358 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 1: and I remember one, remember the one we lost in 359 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: the n c A tournament. So that's kind of how 360 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: I look at it now. And it's not that I 361 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: wasn't careful before, but obviously now with the you know, 362 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: a bigger platform, having been at ESPN. You know, when 363 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: I was at the Tampa Tribune, I had three thousand 364 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: followers on Twitter. Man, I was so impressed. I was 365 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: beating my chest. Three thousand. You know, now I'm almost 366 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:59,239 Speaker 1: two d fifty thousand. That's ridiculous. But I understand, and 367 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: so I don't want to put stuff out there. You know, 368 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: well one, I would never put anything out there that 369 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: I'm not a d accurate that it's correct. But as 370 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 1: far as nervous, I realize I'm not gonna break every story. 371 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: I realized nobody's going to break a majority of stories. 372 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: There's a lot of a lot of great journalists out 373 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: there that do a lot of great work. So if 374 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: other people beat me, that's fine, a pet peeve of mine, 375 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: which you didn't bring this up, but I will, and 376 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 1: as when somebody breaks the story and other journalists don't 377 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: credit him, And that's why I do my damnedest that 378 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: if I report a story that I know someone else 379 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: had first, I will put sources told Action Network first 380 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: reported by x y Z because that little just that 381 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: little recognition goes a long way. And I'm sure there's 382 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: times where I've mistakenly didn't credit somebody that had somebody first, 383 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: But I don't, you know, I only follow a thousand people, 384 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: so I don't see everything that's out there. But if 385 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: I see somebody had something, I am absolutely gonna give 386 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: them credit because I know how it feels being on 387 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: the other to that you know when I was at 388 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: the Tampa Tribune and CBS Sports and all that and 389 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: would break stuff and ESPN wouldn't credit me, So I 390 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,719 Speaker 1: certainly would have do my best to be able and 391 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: credit others if they happen to break it, because I'm 392 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: not I don't have the ego and one, I'm not 393 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: dumb enough to think I'm gonna break everything. That's simply 394 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. So what's interesting is ESPN actually did 395 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: a phenomenal job crediting us. They credited us in the 396 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: alert better than us in on the ticker like it 397 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: was all over and kudos to them, and we appreciate it. 398 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: And I will say Fox Sports took the story and 399 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: basically ran it on their ticker and didn't mention that 400 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: took the entire story and ran on the ticker and 401 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: didn't mention action network was annoying. That is annoying. Um, 402 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: I don't know anyone at Fox or I would have 403 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: emailed him. But there also was I don't want to 404 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: name the specific website, but there was a website that 405 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: covers college football that basically took my first tweet about 406 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: Scott Frost and Nebraska and literally copied it word for word, 407 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 1: except they took out told Action Network. Everything else was 408 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: the same. And then they tweeted it with a link 409 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: to their story on their website, which was basically what 410 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: I reported, and they rewrote it, and I sent the 411 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: guy a text. I'm like, hey, you didn't even attribute 412 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: it to us. We broke it. And he's like, oh, 413 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: I'm sorry we put it in the story. I'm like, 414 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: I don't care. You tweeted it and you make it 415 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: look like you you broke the story. Can you please 416 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: correct it? They did delete it and put up a 417 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: new tweet. But you know that goes on so often 418 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: where I don't even A friend of mine actually text 419 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: me and notified me, but I didn't even see it, 420 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: So I'm sure that goes on more often than not. 421 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 1: But look, I'm not gonna name name. Some people do 422 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: a great job crediting others. Others won't credit others. That's 423 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: just their philosophy. I don't know why, So I just 424 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: tried to credit where credits. Do you know what My 425 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: take is, they're gonna be bad actors out there. We're 426 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: not going to be one of them. I gotta file 427 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: up for bread here. When you're going through all these 428 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: sources in my line of work. It's weird, like I 429 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: have due to give me information I've never met in 430 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: my entire life, Like i'ven't had dinner with these people, 431 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 1: and after a couple of times, you realize the information 432 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: is good you're getting from so that's why you keep 433 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: trusting them and things like that. Is it the same 434 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: in media where um, like, say a guy burns me, 435 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: I don't cut them off, but I'll definitely I won't 436 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: take his information and just run with it anymore. It's 437 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: one of those things where like, are there certain people 438 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,239 Speaker 1: where you have to source with like three to four 439 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: other people before you can even run with it because 440 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: you're just like, Okay, this person has burned me before. 441 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: Because like you said, it's it's very weird people's agendas. 442 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: Um Like, in sports games, it's bizarre where groups will 443 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: give out bad infot because they want the line to 444 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: move against what they want to bet. So that happens 445 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: a lot, and you know, it's one of those things 446 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: where people know now, but they don't say anything because 447 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: it's just like, you know, we don't trust that group 448 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: in their information at getting. I wonder if it's the 449 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: same in the media world where people are trying to 450 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: screw you guys over to just to make their own 451 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: story better. Yeah, they try to. But I'm never gonna 452 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: go if you know, I get a an email that'says, 453 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: you know, hey, Michigan is under investigation, I'm not just 454 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: gonna you know, parrot it and report it right away. Now, 455 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: I'll check and see if it's true. Whether it's true 456 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 1: or not depends on whether I report it. But I'm 457 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: not gonna go simply with what somebody tells me. And yeah, 458 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: if I have an Ohio State fan tell me, oh, 459 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: Michigan's under an investigation, I'll take it with a grain 460 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: of salt because I get that a lot rivals will 461 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: try to out their rivals and they actually think, oh wow, 462 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 1: this guy is just gonna report what I send him. 463 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: So I'll check it out. But yeah, there's other people 464 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: that I know really well that give me info that 465 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: they're about fifty and then there's some people that are 466 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: like and then there's some that maybe you're five percent accurate. 467 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: But I'll check everything out, and yeah, I'm not I'm 468 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: never gonna go with anybody, go with anything unless I 469 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: can confirm it myself. So I guess I I haven't 470 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: been burned by that because, like I said, the five 471 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: people I trust with everything, they never purposely given me 472 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: any bad info. But but no, I get I check 473 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: everything out because the these days, you never know, you 474 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: never know what's gonna happen. And this this story I broke, 475 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of years ago when I was 476 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: laid off from ESPN with was Zach Smith and the 477 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: domestic violence going on there in urban Meyer and and 478 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: all that. You know, Initially, when I got that information, 479 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, there's no way, no one knows anything 480 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: about this. This kid kid coached at Florita's at Ohio State. 481 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: This is there's no way it's true. And then I 482 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: kept looking into it, found out it was true, and 483 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: then proceeded to break that. So it's weird. You know, 484 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: you do have a lot of sources, but it's weird 485 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: you get so much information from you just if you 486 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: just talk to people. I'm sure with you with with 487 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: you know, gambling and trying to get information. The more 488 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: you talk to people and you just have conversations, they 489 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: may offer something up that you weren't even talking to 490 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 1: them about. And that's that's happened to me with the 491 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: Penn State when they're find thirty million dollars back with 492 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: the Sandusky stuff by the n c a A. I 493 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: was actually talking to someone trying to ironically and trying 494 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: to find out what teams we're gonna be going to 495 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: specific bowl games. And this person as we're talking, said, wow, 496 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: can you believe what about Penn State? And of course 497 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: I said, I had no idea what he's talking about. 498 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: And I said, oh, I know, can you believe that? 499 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: That's crazy? So I go, what, um, what did you 500 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: What did you hear? Exactly because I was heard a 501 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: bunch of different things that oh, they were fine, thirty 502 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: million dollars or sixty million where the number was. And 503 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that's what I heard. That that's unreal. Man. Well, hey, 504 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: have a good day. Thanks. I'm like, holy crap. So 505 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: then I I followed through confirmed it. Whatever I broke it. 506 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: I was with CBS Sports back then. But yeah, so 507 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: I'm talking to this this guy about bowl bowl games 508 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: and who's going to go to the you know, International 509 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: Bowl or whoever. The bull is probably defunct right now, 510 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: doesn't exist. And the guy ends up, oh, by the way, 511 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: just dropping this huge, massive scoop, uh, you know, twenty 512 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: four hours before it was released, So you never know 513 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: where it's gonna come on. But I'm always gonna check 514 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 1: it out and confirm it before I ever put it 515 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: out there, the good old blockbuster bull. What's interesting, there's 516 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: there's becoming very little distinction between how Simon approaches sports 517 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: and information and then shares it on platforms like this 518 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: podcast or on Action Network, and how Brett approaches sports 519 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: and information and shares it on Action Network. You know, 520 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 1: Simon has come on the podcast, talked about sources, talked 521 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 1: about having information. Um it was. It was highlighted during 522 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: the draft where forty eight hours before the draft, when 523 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: everyone thought Mac Jones was gonna go number three, all 524 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: of a sudden there were rumors, largely in the gambling space, 525 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: that he wasn't going to go number three, and Simon 526 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: was ahead of that, talked about it, talked about the 527 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: sources that he knew to get that there's distinction, without 528 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,719 Speaker 1: much difference between gamblers getting information and activating on it 529 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: and reporters and journalists like Brett activating on it. I 530 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: saw that with COVID though too, like you even mentioned 531 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: COVID last season, where like he said, he needs to 532 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: vent these things. He needs to go through three or 533 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: four people to confirm these stories. So Chefter might have 534 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: known that Denver. I remember Denver that that COVID case. 535 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: I texted you, I think on the Friday, or maybe 536 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: it was a Thursday, and then the whole thing came 537 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: out on a Saturday. Chefter probably the same info I did. Like, 538 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: he's in tune with Denver, but he can't put it 539 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: out there because there's a bunch of little things he 540 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: gets to go through before you can put that information 541 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: out there. Whereas where I'm gonna but I'm a sports 542 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 1: better we run with this information if we're getting information 543 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: and it's vented, where it's like, okay, a guy on 544 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: Denver's team who knows who it is could have been 545 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks coach or someone like that. They were the 546 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,959 Speaker 1: first ones to leak to lead to a friend who 547 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: leaked to another person. I leaked it out that the 548 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: cold quarterback room of Denver Broncos had COVID. So that's 549 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,959 Speaker 1: again one of these things where Brett has to do 550 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: these things. Where As the vent these things, where as 551 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: a as a professional gambler. We put our money in first, 552 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: and then we then you know that, like you can't 553 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: miss this opportunity. So Brett, if he's a sports better, 554 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure he puts a bet in before he breaks 555 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: the news. I mean, that's just I've even heard Shifter 556 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: here talking about he he does things in fantasy football. 557 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: He'll pick guys up before he tweets out that so 558 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: and so has hurt. So make no mistake, people, we 559 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: use this information to benefit ourselves before we give it 560 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: out to the masses. I don't know how I feel 561 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: about you saying that, what well you I broke the 562 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: tray the tray Lands News live with you, buddy. I 563 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: mean I think he cost me about so don't think 564 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: I don't give you the good stuff. I gave it 565 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: to you a plus three by the time I got 566 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,479 Speaker 1: to Atlantic City it was plus one fifties. So I 567 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: love that I helped you out to do these things 568 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: with you. But it's also crazy the pool that actual 569 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: network has that information traveled that fast. We did one 570 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: live video of me on the side of the highway 571 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: on the Atlantic City Expressway. The line moved by plus 572 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: a hundred fifties. So again, I love this job. But 573 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: it's also interesting seeing that live like that happened in 574 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: real time. That was pretty pretty crazy to experience. He's 575 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: as Sigmon, so one one way, one thing I would 576 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: counter with what you just said, And you're right, there 577 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: are some similarities as far as you know from me 578 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: and Scheft Schefter's point of view, if we put something 579 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: out there and it's wrong, we can't take it back. 580 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: If you put in a If you put in a 581 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: bet and then you find out the guys the guy 582 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: is going to play, the guy isn't playing the opposite 583 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: of your information, you can come back on the other side. 584 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: It's gonna offset it a little bit, and it's not 585 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: going to destroy your reputation. That's what about the wording 586 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: for reporters. You guys put these certain words in these reports. 587 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: It kind of you know some guys, Yeah, some guys 588 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: do and yeah, and I hate the people that do 589 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: the and I'm probably I'm sure I'm guilty of doing this, 590 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: but they said, you know, expected to maybe you know, 591 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: just come out and say you don't know. But some 592 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: people just want to be first and just say you know, 593 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: instead of saying, look, this is gonna happen on Tuesday, 594 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: Well this may have been on next week or whatever. 595 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: In fact, I love it when reporters come out and say, hey, 596 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: this may happen next week, this guy may be out 597 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: or whatever, because you're saying you don't know. What does 598 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: that to do. It tells me to go find out 599 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: if they're definitely gonna play or not, or if that 600 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: coach is gonna get fired, or if that meeting is 601 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: gonna happen, whatever it is. So no one's gonna remember 602 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: that last week that you said something may happen. They 603 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: will remember if you're the one that reported and said 604 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: it did happen based on whatever the information is. I 605 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: right now, obviously we are recording this podcast on a zoom. 606 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: I am staring at Brett mc murphy, I'm staring at 607 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: Simon Hunter, and I swear to god, I am seeing 608 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 1: the future of sports media literally this very second. This 609 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: is the confluence of all the forces coming together at 610 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: one time. It's starting here right now this week with 611 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: this podcast. Welcome to it. This is the beginning of 612 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: the next phase. Chad, one of my five guys, just 613 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: texted me the world's gonna end in two hours. Sorry 614 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: about it. This will be lived. We gotta go, we 615 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: gotta go. It was a good run, all right. I 616 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: do have I do have a bone to pick with 617 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: you right now because you're predicting in the College Football 618 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: Playoff national Championship. I do. We want to go through 619 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: some of these things. Ohio State in Alabama, those are 620 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: it's a terrible projection. Tell me why you're thinking that, 621 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: because I think it's probably gonna be Georgia and Oklahoma. Okay, 622 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: So this is what I'm basing it on. Is I 623 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: believe Alabama. I know all the losses they've had. I 624 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: understand that it happens every year. I'm not gonna bet 625 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: against Nick Saban. Yeah. Bill O'Brien's a new offensive coordinator. 626 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: Bryce Shawn's a new quarterback. I've seen this movie before. 627 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: Until somebody beats Alabama, I'm keeping them up there. Too 628 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: many times. I've tried to have been cute. I want 629 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: to be I want to be the guy that picks 630 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 1: against Alabama. I beg on my face, I'm sticking with Alabama. 631 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: I look at Ohio State eight. I think they will 632 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: are the I think they're the cream of the crop 633 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: in the Big ten. I think with that early nonconference 634 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: game against Oregon. I think that gives them additional strength 635 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: of schedule. And I my other two semifinal teams actually 636 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: are Georgia and Oklahoma, so I think Oklahoma will run 637 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: the table. In the Big Twelve, I think Georgia upsets Clemson. Uh, 638 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: you don't even Simon, you don't even need the three 639 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: take the money line. I like Georgia over Clemson, and 640 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: then I think Georgia takes care of business, but then 641 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: they lose in the SEC title game. I think a 642 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: twelve and one Georgia gets into the National title game 643 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: because Clemson losing that first game, they don't have a 644 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: strength of schedule to get back into the top four. 645 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: In the Pact twelve, I think is probably maybe the 646 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: overall the strongest top to bottom conference. The problem is 647 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: they don't have an elite squad. They're gonna beat each 648 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: other up. So of Georgia, Alabama, Oklahoma, and Ohio State, 649 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: I think Alabama and Ohio State. Look, you know, I 650 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: hate it, the same teams, but until somebody can beat him, 651 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go a different way. 652 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: You don't even have Clemson playing in a New Year's 653 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 1: Day Ball, Yes, I did. That's a they're they're not 654 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 1: in the Peach Bowl. It's the it's the Chick fil 655 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: A Peak Bowl on Decem right, that's the that's one 656 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: of the New Year's six. It's they moved the dates 657 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: around for those other non semifinal games. That's like the 658 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: A p M game. Then, Uh, I don't have that 659 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: in front of me, but yeah, I'm sure it is. 660 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: But it's basically this year, the Cotton Bowl and the 661 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 1: Orange Bowl have the semifinal games. Okay, the Rose Bowl 662 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: and the Sugar Bowl get their conference tie ends with 663 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: the Big Ten, Pack twelve, Big twelve, and SEC. Those 664 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: games have to be played on January one, Rose Bowl 665 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: and Sugar Bowl even though they're not the semis. So 666 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: that that means they move the Peach and the Fiesta 667 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,399 Speaker 1: off of the first, and they moved the semifinals off 668 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: off of the first. Do you have? I do have 669 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: Clemson in the Peach Bowl against Oregon, who I think 670 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: we'll win the Pac twelve. Yeah, it's interesting that you 671 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: say the Pack twelve is the strongest top to bottom 672 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 1: because every year that's the conference that feels like it's 673 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: going to fade. They I mean, look, there's again, it's 674 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: the preseason top twenty. Take it with a grain of salt. 675 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: They've got five teams in the top and I think 676 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 1: they're all deserving, and I think all five of them 677 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,959 Speaker 1: can win the conference. That's the good news. The bad 678 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,919 Speaker 1: news is um depth of your conference does not earn 679 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: you a bid to the College Football Playoff. So you know, 680 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: the SEC I think has has war five in the 681 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: top five. But how many teams realistically can win the 682 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: SEC this year? Probably to maybe two and a half 683 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: for three. How many teams can win the Big ten? 684 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: Maybe Ohio State and maybe somebody else who gets hot. 685 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: Who can win the Big twelve? Maybe Oklahoma obviously, maybe 686 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: Iowa State. So that's the big difference with the Pack twelve. 687 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 1: And that's been their problem is that they are they 688 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 1: are so those, so good and so solid, but they're 689 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: gonna beat each other up. They're gonna end up with 690 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: two or three losses, and you cannot get in the 691 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: playoff that way. And look, I look back at the 692 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: past seven years of the college football playoffs. There was 693 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,720 Speaker 1: one year if we would had a twelve team playoff, 694 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,120 Speaker 1: the SEC would have only got one team in a 695 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: twelve team playoff. It just happened to be Alabama who 696 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: won the national title that year. So nobody remembers the 697 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 1: SEC only had one team in the final Top twelve. 698 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: They remember the SEC won the national title that year, 699 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: and so that's what everyone judges the PAC twelve on unfairly, 700 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: I think is they haven't been to the playoff. They 701 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: haven't won a playoff. Man, these guys suck when actually, 702 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: if you had a challenge between the conferences and went 703 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 1: with theird top against the other and ranked him and 704 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: went down, I think the PAC twelve would hold their 705 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 1: own with with any conference in the country. And now 706 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: a word from our friends at fan Dowel. 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I mean even Bama 741 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: before Nick Saban, they were kind of a nothing organization. 742 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: It feels like we've had a run here where it's 743 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: just Oklahoma, Ohio State, Alabama, Clemson, It's Clemson that team. 744 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: It's Clemson about to fall off because if it reached 745 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: many things with this power alignment, all these teams shifting 746 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: all these different groups, and Clemson, you know, they're the 747 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,839 Speaker 1: big dogs in a CECYC. So I get why they're 748 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: staying there. But is that the next team that's going 749 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: to fall off like the Miami did in Florida State? 750 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 1: Did you know? I don't think, Simon, I don't think 751 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna fall off to the extreme that the Miami 752 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: and Florida State did. I still think they're they're the 753 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 1: class of the A C C. But but you wonder, 754 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,280 Speaker 1: you know, look, dab but Swiney's done an incre doable 755 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: job there. I mean, it's it's gotten to the point 756 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: where three or four years ago everybody said he would 757 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: be the successor to Nick Saban Dabo would go back 758 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: to Alabama. To now the the nobody thinks that. They're like, 759 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: why does he got to go to Alabama? He can 760 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: do what he needs to do at Clemson. UM, but 761 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: you wonder how long he can keep that keep that going. 762 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: I believe last year was the first year. It ended 763 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 1: the streak of seven consecutive years where Clemston had finished 764 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 1: the season ranked higher than they were in the preseason 765 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 1: a people and that included one year where they started 766 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: out at number two. So it's been remarkable what Clemson 767 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 1: has done there. You wander with conference realignment, with the 768 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 1: SEC getting stronger, Obviously there's a larger degree of difficulty 769 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: with Oklahoma moving to the SEC. UM I don't think 770 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 1: you're gonna see them as dominant as they've been, as 771 00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 1: they were in the Big twelve. So but I don't 772 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: necessarily think they're gonna fall off a cliff. Look, Alabama's 773 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 1: until Nick Saban retires, and even then that will be 774 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: twenty years from now. Even when they do, I'm sure 775 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: they'll have a computer program developed by then that will 776 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: just mimic Saban until the end of time and Alabama 777 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: win the next fifty national titles. I don't think they're 778 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: going anywhere. Ohio State with Ryan Day great young coach, 779 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: unless he moves to the NFL. UM I don't see 780 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 1: them going anywhere. So of those four, Simon, I would 781 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: agree that probably Clempson's the one. But again, look, everyone 782 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 1: complains about this. I don't like that we have the 783 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 1: same matchups. Chad just did my Bolt projections. It's the 784 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 1: same four teams. But look, there's one way to change that, 785 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 1: and that's to beat those teams. Nobody's figured out how 786 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 1: to beat him yet. S I mean, I feel like 787 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:55,320 Speaker 1: you're asking better questions on this podcast than I am. 788 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 1: I'm just more interested in what Brett does. I like, 789 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 1: not that I want that job, because I can't imagine 790 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,320 Speaker 1: the stress. Like I'm a nobody, So for me to 791 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: break news like you said, it's nothing to me, but 792 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: for you, I couldn't imagine it. So that's what I'm 793 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,839 Speaker 1: just so intrigued because like your first story. I read 794 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: that and I was like, holy shit, man, this is 795 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,400 Speaker 1: like real, real stories being broken here. So it's just 796 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: so cool to be able to talk you and ask 797 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: you these kind of questions. All right, let me ask 798 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: you one last question. Let me ask you one last question. Uh. 799 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 1: In the Bowl projections, which one was the hardest projection 800 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: to make? And why? It's actually the who's going to 801 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: the semifinal? Chad because who you put put in the 802 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,839 Speaker 1: semifinal impacts everything below it. So when I don't have 803 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: Clemson in the semifinal, then it impacts you know, where 804 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: they go. Five Clemson in the semifinal, that totally changes 805 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 1: that the other New Year's six games, and so it 806 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: starts at the top. There's really not one that's harder 807 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: than the other. What makes it very difficult. And I 808 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: actually actually looked this up the non including last year, 809 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: which was COVID. The bowl system was screwed up the 810 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 1: previous three years. I actually kept practice for some stick reason. 811 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,320 Speaker 1: My final Bowl projections, which will run Sunday morning before 812 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 1: they're announced Sunday afternoon, I've hit seventy five of the 813 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 1: teams in the bowl, exact bowl that they got a 814 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: bid to believe me, Week one out of the gate 815 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: is not. But when we get to the end, I 816 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: have a better idea. What's gonna make it difficult, which 817 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,800 Speaker 1: I talked about a little earlier, is these twelve Bowl 818 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 1: games where I can't say, oh, I know a team 819 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: from the American is going in that game and they're 820 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 1: gonna play Conference USA. I no longer know that. All 821 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: I know is it's gonna be one of five conferences, 822 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 1: so that that will be literally impossible to peg because 823 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 1: once you missed, you know, unlike a test, once you 824 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,280 Speaker 1: miss one, it impacts the rest of your picks because 825 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,399 Speaker 1: then it's a domino effect. If if the one app 826 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 1: tops wrong, then a lot of them down below were wrong. Well, listen, 827 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,240 Speaker 1: everybody can and keep track of this every single week 828 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 1: on Action network dot com, in the Action Network app, 829 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 1: follow Brett on Twitter. We will all be sharing it. 830 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 1: We will be updating along with a bevy of other 831 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: stories related to UH the a P top Action Network 832 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: Power ratings. You will be able to listen to Brett 833 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 1: on the Big Bets on Campus podcast. He'll be doing 834 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 1: a podcast specifically with Colin Wilson every single week. UH. 835 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: He'll be on our Big Bats on Campus live pregame 836 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: show on Saturday mornings that will start a week from Saturday. Uh. 837 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 1: We have a whole host of content around college football. 838 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 1: Bret McMurphy, Stucky, Colin Wilson probably couldn't be happier there here. 839 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 1: I think I think Simon expressed it better than anybody. 840 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Action Network. Thanks, I really appreciate it. 841 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 1: And for those folks that don't like my Bolt projections, 842 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,879 Speaker 1: I have good news. They'll be different next week. Check 843 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,399 Speaker 1: them out then on percent All right for Bret McMurphy. First, 844 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 1: Simon hunts there. I am Chad Molman. This has been 845 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,319 Speaker 1: the favorite from the Volume podcast Network. We will be 846 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 1: back on Thursday. Oh, big show on Thursday. Right, we're 847 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,240 Speaker 1: finally doing the AC South preview. We got Darius Butler 848 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 1: form the NFL Player coming on. Uh. We'll talk to 849 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 1: you then download the podcast from Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever 850 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 1: you can get your podcasts. Until then, I love you