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Speaker 1: Hey, what up. Welcome in from Paradise. This is All Ball.

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Speaker 2: I'm Doug Gottlieb, and today's All Ball is going to

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Speaker 2: focus part one of Vermel Pathea and Ramel is a

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Speaker 2: young man who I think you've probably all heard about,

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Speaker 2: or read about, or wondered about. He's twenty nine years old.

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Speaker 2: He's a sophomore, and you'll hear his story before we

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Speaker 2: get to that. Just a quick update. We released the

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Speaker 2: All Ball, the last All Ball with Nico Medvet, head

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Speaker 2: coach of Minnesota, and then we played them to overtime.

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Speaker 2: Really proud of my group in that the things that

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Speaker 2: we have been emphasizing and things that we've needed to

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Speaker 2: get from them, we thought, by and large we got.

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Speaker 2: You know, I played my returners and I have four

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Speaker 2: returners and one who red shirted, actually two red shirted,

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Speaker 2: ones a walk on, but one was a walk on.

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Speaker 2: We gave a scholarship to in Kate Wilkins, and what

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Speaker 2: we think as everybody in college basketball to connectivity at

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Speaker 2: this time of year is just gigantic. We played the

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Speaker 2: most connecting guys, the guys who are the most physical.

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Speaker 2: We had to match the physicality of Minnesota, who look

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Speaker 2: they're they're not where they want to be just yet,

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Speaker 2: but they are extremely physical, very good rebounding team, and

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Speaker 2: we took them in overtime. We competed with them, got

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Speaker 2: to make three throws, got to get a couple more stops.

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Speaker 2: But we're also able to change defenses and maintain our

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Speaker 1: Se Yeah, that's like the big.

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Speaker 2: Fear when my staff was like, hey, coach, we need

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Speaker 2: to put in the zone. Absolutely, I agree, but we

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Speaker 2: a zone that works for our personnel.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a big thing.

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Speaker 2: But I also want to share with you two quick

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Speaker 2: It goes one from the game. So coaching at Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: And you know the.

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Speaker 2: Point I've made is I've done this with houses, right,

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Speaker 2: Seems like a pretty good place to buy. You use

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Speaker 2: Other anecdote I will I will share with you is

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Speaker 2: And when you're coaching at Minnesota, the players and your

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Speaker 2: Has the benches so close to the court, that guys

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Speaker 2: Additionally, the acoustics or such where I actually could hear

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Speaker 2: And you see a lot of kind of wonky results

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Speaker 2: And we felt that even playing against Minnesota, how many

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Speaker 2: but everybody's cheering for the little guy we play Yale tonight.

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Speaker 2: James Jones is an unbelievable coach. Obviously, once he started

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Speaker 2: Sky Yettan, who's now at UC San Diego, is a

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Speaker 2: I called him and I said, hey, man, what's your

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Speaker 1: His advice was, don't.

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Speaker 1: Don't They're awesome? Thousands amazing. We agree.

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Speaker 2: The last thing is this. You know, you tell kids

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Speaker 2: because you know, when you're twenty nine and you decide

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Speaker 1: Of payback for it, you know. And he didn't play well.

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Speaker 2: Talk about it Flory Padunga, who is a younger, slightly

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Speaker 2: And I barely played against Minnesota. He played a little

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Speaker 1: He just needs experience.

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Speaker 2: And the hard part about gaining experience is we're trying

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Speaker 2: And I know you're saying he's twenty nine years old,

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Speaker 1: This is all as new to him as is any freshman,

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Speaker 1: and just like freshmen, it takes time. They're going to

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Speaker 2: They're just gonna be the missing of home, the missing

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Speaker 1: I went through it.

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Speaker 2: He played college basketball, played any college sport. Actually, even

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Speaker 1: Right, there's the initial you're away from home.

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Speaker 2: It's fun, you know, no parents, no guidelines, Let's just

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Speaker 1: In this case, you're playing basketball. Life is good.

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Speaker 2: But then when it gets real to you, everybody gets

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Speaker 1: So take a list through mel Story Part one and

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Speaker 2: In the meantime, check us out tonight today one thirty

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Speaker 2: Island time that we take on the Yale Bulldogs and

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Speaker 2: we'll see just how much we've grown up from a

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Speaker 2: really disappointing performance against Saint Thomas. But of course that

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Speaker 1: And Yale's probably a little bit better than Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: They're a top one hundred, top seventy five team picked

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Speaker 1: A great challenge.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna drop one of these today and try

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Speaker 2: drop part two tomorrow as we'll recap the game and

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Speaker 2: look forward to whomever we play. But in the meantime,

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Speaker 2: here's Ramel bethea sophomore. He's a veteran at a lum

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Speaker 2: I haven't want to do this pod with you for

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Speaker 2: a long time, but it was more kind of you

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Speaker 5: So you grew up where I grew up in for Washington, Maryland.

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Speaker 5: That's a nice little area in Maryland right outside of DC.

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Speaker 5: Never quiet kid, I was shy playing video games. That

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Speaker 3: So I would you play backyard football?

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Speaker 2: Did you play quarter because like there's all time quarterback

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Speaker 5: We would I would go like wide receiver a little bit.

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Speaker 3: So you were small as a kid. So wait, mom

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Speaker 2: We had no idea that. So somebody throws hands, we

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Speaker 6: So what high school is this from the high school

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Speaker 2: So nobody was like, hey man, you played a little

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Speaker 6: So actually we did. So I was in gym class

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Speaker 6: I never came back.

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Speaker 2: And then that just it's funny because now you love

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Speaker 2: you go through high school and what was the plan?

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Speaker 2: Like you're in high school, like I always want to

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Speaker 3: Like what was what was the plan?

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Speaker 5: So at the high school, like I said, come forwar,

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Speaker 6: House to live with my auntie.

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Speaker 5: And basically like at that time period, I was working,

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Speaker 5: from like Target Harris.

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Speaker 3: Hold on, hold what Target? What did you do?

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Speaker 5: I was just we called it hard line, So I

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Speaker 3: Okay, how many days a week?

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Speaker 5: Oh man, I was doing like I want to say,

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Speaker 6: So I was doing like thirty hours a week.

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Speaker 3: What do you what did you make an hour?

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Speaker 5: I think like nine seventy five At that time period,

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Speaker 5: like minimum wage everywhere was just nine dollars.

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Speaker 2: So okay, so you're making nine an hour, you're working thirties.

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Speaker 2: What do you do with the rest of your time?

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Speaker 6: Video games?

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Speaker 3: What's your what's your gaming system of choice?

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Speaker 5: Eights box? And I played at that time. I was

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Speaker 5: addicted to two K. Like my mom used to hate it.

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Speaker 3: Every parent hates it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So, but you do know you look like one

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Speaker 2: of the created characters, right, yeah? Yeah, So did you

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Speaker 2: did you play with a certain team or guy, like

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Speaker 5: I always went for like the skinny link linky tall dude.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, like Kevin d that's your guy. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so that's that's the kind of style.

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Speaker 3: So, like, how good are you, like, like right.

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Speaker 2: Now when you playing the guys on the team in

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Speaker 2: two K? Do you just dominate?

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Speaker 5: I think I'm like so at that. I was so

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Speaker 5: good at two K, but I haven't played it in

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Speaker 5: but I just feel like I made my name in

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Speaker 5: I even think that like my delusion. So I don't

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Speaker 6: To this day. You know, I don't play it right now.

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Speaker 6: I think I can hop on and just beat all

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Speaker 3: So were you ranked?

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Speaker 6: I used to play like it's.

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Speaker 5: A game old called like stage and stuff like that,

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Speaker 5: but I was so we don't It wasn't like ranking system.

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Speaker 5: It was if you were known in the community. So

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Speaker 5: I was pretty known in the in the two K

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Speaker 2: So known two K community guy that comes with a

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Speaker 2: lot of perks, I'm sure. Yeah, Okay, So, so you're

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Speaker 2: stocking shelves at Target.

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Speaker 3: What was the next job?

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Speaker 6: I went to Dunkin Donuts?

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Speaker 3: Would you do with duncan?

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Speaker 6: Oh? My god, I was cooking.

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Speaker 5: I was making wake up raps, making coffee at like

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Speaker 5: and I'm six' five just standing behind the.

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Speaker 6: Counter LIKE i, said all these HEIGHTS i don't think

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Speaker 6: Regular i'm normal.

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Speaker 5: do you play. Basketball i'm, like, No i'm, working you

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Speaker 5: know WHAT i mean. That it never was like basketball

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Speaker 5: of always was like around, basketball BUT i just it

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Speaker 2: Years that's a. Grinder you're grinding if you're making wake up.

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Speaker 2: Raps wakeup wraps are, bombed, dude really. Good you gotta

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Speaker 2: have the maple who? Bacon oh, man that's. Amazing that's

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Speaker 2: like the second greatest practice. Shot you have the greatest,

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Speaker 2: practice shoot is, forever, Right Nick Griddle griddle IS i

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Speaker 3: Fine you can work a dunk you can Own Duncan.

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Speaker 3: Dnuts you'd Like, yeah mc girdles really. Good it's, really

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Speaker 2: Okay so so you're working At Duncan tina get.

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Speaker 3: Dunkin then what it's.

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Speaker 6: Called it's Called Harris.

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Speaker 5: Theater it's like a it's like a you, know like

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Speaker 5: and stuff like. That For virginia they have like place Called.

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Speaker 5: Harris it's like wholes. Food it's like Whole. Foods. OKAY

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Speaker 5: i was working there and that's actually WHERE i met

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Speaker 6: To like kind of like jump start my.

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Speaker 3: Life, okay so what were you doing At Harris.

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Speaker 6: Theater shelves same? Thing so is that? Overnight, NO i

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Speaker 5: Time so my main thing WAS i was working in,

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Speaker 2: Eighteen, so, uh tell me about when the marine recruiter

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Speaker 5: In, well, basically she was doing her job AND i

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Speaker 6: I thought she was on.

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Speaker 5: Break so she's seeing me and not even like just

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Speaker 5: how my height and everything that. Didn't she's just trying

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Speaker 5: Me she basically got me in the doors of.

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Speaker 2: Like hold, on hold, on, hold what were you'res? Like

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Speaker 2: question was she? Hot is that is that?

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Speaker 6: Part? Yeah that's what that's that's that's.

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Speaker 3: What did is, right that's very.

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Speaker 3: It you, like, hey you want to come over and

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Speaker 3: play TWO? K.

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Speaker 6: Yeah that's not how it.

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Speaker 5: Worked that WAS i, mean she got a whole, career

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Speaker 3: Work so and then she was in was she in full?

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Speaker 2: Okay so you go over to kind of holler, her

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Speaker 5: WHAT i.

444
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 3: Mean get her phone? Number that's the big. Question did

445
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker 3: you get?

446
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,119
Speaker 5: HER i didn't get her phone, number but she kept it.

447
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,400
Speaker 5: Professional she kept it extremely. Professional and, yeah.

448
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,200
Speaker 6: AND i caught the. Signs SO i called the. SIGNS

449
00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 6: i was, like, okay.

450
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 5: Cool but then in the midst of all the conversation

451
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 5: where she was saying did seem like it did seem, Like,

452
00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 5: okay that might be a decent opportunity for me to

453
00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:58,680
Speaker 5: go out with her.

454
00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,639
Speaker 3: Or to go and join the. Marine you want a marine?

455
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,639
Speaker 2: AGAIN i just want to make sure you're, like wait a.

456
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:08,119
Speaker 2: Second she might be into, me like, now, now, Okay

457
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 2: so you go home and you're, like, HEY i cain't

458
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 2: THINK i might want to join The. Marines, yeah what are

459
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:14,120
Speaker 2: your what your parents?

460
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 6: Say they actually was, like, no you ain't joining the.

461
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,919
Speaker 5: Marine it's like because they thought The marines are like

462
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 5: the Bad i'm.

463
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 3: Bad as you're like the nicest guy.

464
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 5: Ever, yeah so they're, LIKE i like the military for,

465
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 5: YOU i mean just step In stone and stuff like,

466
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 5: that BUT i don't think you should do the. Marine

467
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 5: So i'm, Like i'm gonna just keep doing. Marine but

468
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 5: then one thing like to, another the marine, LADY i

469
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 5: had tattoos on my arms and she might have even

470
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 5: seen it when she was talking to, me BUT i

471
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 5: had tattoos on my lower, arm on both my lower.

472
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 5: Arms so ONCE i told her, that then she was, like,

473
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 5: yeah well we at that time they. Weren't they're probably

474
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 5: more lenient on it now BECAUSE i think the numbers

475
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 5: are also there accepting more, stuff but at that time

476
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 5: they were like that that was just a no. No

477
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 5: so she led me to the navys and they just

478
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 5: like it was times where like you go through the

479
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 5: process and they check up on, you make sure you're do.

480
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 5: Anythings but if you don't check up on, them they

481
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,880
Speaker 5: kind of kind of forced themselves on, you like, yo

482
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 5: like what's going on so AND i think they get

483
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,879
Speaker 5: like some type of not, compensation but like, yeah awards or.

484
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 5: Something so they were like. That it was times WHERE

485
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 5: i WAS i don't know IF i want to do,

486
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 5: it but they kept talking to me to it until

487
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 5: the point where it's Like i'm gonna do. It then

488
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 5: ONCE i finally got to do, It LIKE i, SAID

489
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,400
Speaker 5: i was. SKINNY i was like at this, Time i'm

490
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,719
Speaker 5: sixty five one hundred and like thirty five pounds When

491
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 5: i'm talking to, them and like people always think about

492
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 5: like overweight is a reason why people can't go to the.

493
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 5: MILITARY i was underweight AND i couldn't get in BECAUSE

494
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,919
Speaker 5: i was too, tall too. SKINNY i had TO i

495
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 5: had to be minimums one hundred and fifty five pounds

496
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 5: for my. Height so that process of me joined the

497
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 5: military took extremely, Long like it was like a whole

498
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 5: year process of me trying to gain. Weight AND i

499
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 5: finally got to one hundred and fifty five on the,

500
00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 5: DOT i went up.

501
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 6: There and how old?

502
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 3: Wait, wait, wait how old Are you're six? Six and

503
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 3: held the one hundred fifty.

504
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,199
Speaker 6: Fine at that, TIME i was two year, process SO

505
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 6: i was, Nineteen.

506
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 3: No but you were out of that was two years

507
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 3: out of high.

508
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 5: SCHOOL i was SO i didn't HIT i didn't hit six.

509
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 5: SET i joined the military at sixty. Six, ACTUALLY, ok

510
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:18,360
Speaker 5: so what?

511
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 3: Year what year is this?

512
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 6: TWENTY i want to say twenty, sixteen twenty, seventeen.

513
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 3: Twenty seventeen, meters twenty, nineteen you, joined you?

514
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 4: Join?

515
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah the process was a Long it was a long.

516
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 6: Process LIKE i.

517
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 2: Said, also so four years after high, School so you're

518
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 2: twenty one years. Old, yeah you're six six and you're

519
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty.

520
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 5: Pounds, yeah one hundred and fifty. Five yeah Minimum, wait

521
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 5: the minimum weight was one hundred and fifty five for sixty.

522
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 3: Six is your pop super?

523
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 6: Skinny? No actually he's like six four to two he

524
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 6: was like two thirty two.

525
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 3: Forty your mom's super.

526
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 5: Skinny she's like five nine one one, forty has four,

527
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 5: females so she's. NOT i, mean it's she's. Skinny but, yeah.

528
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 3: What what's so is this has always? Been is? It

529
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 3: you don't like to? Eat you just eat? Junk what's

530
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 3: the what's the? Story?

531
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 5: Uh it's crazy too Because i'm, like low key the

532
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 5: skinniest one in my family from the inner household to

533
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 5: like my, cousins like they're all, pretty like we're all,

534
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 5: slim But i'm like noticeably like. Skinny like my. BROTHER

535
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,199
Speaker 5: i have a younger. Brother he's six seven six six six,

536
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 5: seven but he's like two.

537
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: Thirty so you're you're slender up, top but you're built

538
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 2: your legs an.

539
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 3: Ass you have no app, right that's really where you.

540
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 2: Have like if you had a normal if you had my,

541
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 2: ass you would weigh two. Thirty, Right that's that's what

542
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 2: it comes down. To, yeah, okay so it takes two

543
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 2: years and finally it's. Time, yeah, okay what's that? Time

544
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 2: like when you're getting ready to go and leave your,

545
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 2: home leave all your jobs and go join the. Navy

546
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 2: what's what's what's those last couple of? Weeks, like, Man

547
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: so those last week it was.

548
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 5: SAD i was kind of scared for the most part

549
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 5: because you just hear the word boot camp and you

550
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 5: just think, like, Oh i'm about to go through.

551
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 6: Torture so the countdown dates was it was very. Race

552
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 6: it was kind of it was.

553
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 5: SCARY i DIDN'T i didn't know where my life was

554
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 5: going to go because you know WHAT i, mean once

555
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 5: you join the, military they could take you away from your.

556
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 5: Family you could be across the world from your. Family

557
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 5: SO i didn't know WHERE i was gonna be. At

558
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 5: it was just like a lot of things running through my.

559
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 5: Mom BUT i was just, Like i'm gonna do.

560
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 6: It so that's what.

561
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 3: Happened, Okay so they send it To chicago outside Of, chicago.

562
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 5: Yep outside Of chicago for boot. CAMP i was there

563
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 5: for eight weeks and then at.

564
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 2: That, way hold on, Wait i'm like this all this

565
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 2: ship is interesting because we don't know anything about.

566
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 3: It for, you it's your. Life for, me it's like

567
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 3: this is. Fascinated, Okay so how do you get From

568
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 3: maryland To? Chicago they you take a.

569
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 6: Bush we flew. In they flew us To. Chicago we

570
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 6: flew In. Chicago.

571
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 2: Okay so when you're, flying are you with guys that

572
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 2: are in your. Company they're gonna be in your in your, Bunk.

573
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 6: They're going to be there with, you but they might

574
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 6: not be in your your just your. Squadron they might

575
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 6: be with you.

576
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 2: Indivision this is gonna sound super, childish but you had.

577
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 2: To everybody makes a friend on something like, this like

578
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 2: your first like, friend my First navy. Friend who is

579
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: your first navy.

580
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 5: Friend my First navy. Friend, yeah, maybe and boot camp

581
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 5: was this one. Dude he was from Actually. Baltimore his

582
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 5: name Was. Pew that's the Last, pew like. Pu, yeah

583
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 5: he's From, Baltimore So i'm from D c From. Baltimore

584
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 5: were not, alike but we you, know.

585
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 6: Black. Dude but he likes skin, though so mm.

586
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 3: Hmm so he's, soft you know what you're, saying did

587
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 3: you just go?

588
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 5: White that's What he's a, hard light skin.

589
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 6: Dude, actually he's like a feisty little pitbull light skin.

590
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 3: Dude all, right well you're you're the nice, boxer so

591
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 3: who Is i'd be? Remembered, okay so. Tats you have

592
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 3: a lot of. Tats what was your first?

593
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 5: Tat my first tat was my mom name on my

594
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 5: arm and it's like a small tattoo THAT i paid

595
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 5: probably the most for it because they ripped.

596
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 6: Me THEY i was a.

597
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 3: Rookie how much did it cost?

598
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 6: You four hundred and fifty? Dollars? Wow for thirty minute

599
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,239
Speaker 6: tattoo that had?

600
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 3: Hurt? Yeah that?

601
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 6: Hurt?

602
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 3: Yeah and your mom was mad. It she was, like,

603
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 3: wait it's a tattoo of, Me So i'm not that.

604
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 6: Mad, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

605
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 3: Yeah was that the thinking or was it did you

606
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 3: get did you?

607
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 6: Meet that was me getting in the door BECAUSE i

608
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 6: KNEW i wanted?

609
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 3: More was you that was your gateway? Drug?

610
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 6: Yeah that WAS i. WAS i KNEW i was want

611
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 6: to get more on my, own BUT i had to

612
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 6: ease into it with.

613
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 3: That, okay so uh and then when did it become

614
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 3: kind of your? Thing?

615
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 6: Immediately LIKE i got?

616
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 5: IT i was scared, obviously and then ONCE i did,

617
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 5: THAT i had half asleep BEFORE i joined the, military

618
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 5: and then ONCE i got in the, MILITARY i STARTED

619
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 5: i just started getting my.

620
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 6: Hands and my legs on the side of my necks

621
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 6: how to have the Front BUT i like to sall,

622
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 6: right stuff like.

623
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 3: That which one hurts the? Most what hurts the?

624
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 5: Most wing on my legs because there ain't no meat

625
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 5: on the. Bones my legs hurt.

626
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 3: Them not a meeting your neck, either your neck feels

627
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 3: like it would hurt.

628
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 5: Too that was like the easiest. ONE i actually feel

629
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 5: asleep on my neck the front part.

630
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 3: Really, yeah was there was there every thought of like

631
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 3: he is, THIS i might not like this at Fifty, yeah.

632
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 5: Well, yeah it was, that but it was just Like

633
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 5: i'm gonna JUST i don't.

634
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 6: KNOW i JUST i just keep getting.

635
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 3: THEM i don't.

636
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 5: KNOW i don't know what's those thoughts are, there BUT

637
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 5: i Don't i'm just living day by day AND i,

638
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 5: know Like i'm gonna be.

639
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: Straight that's why you're. NOT i want to not spend

640
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 2: your money. Anymore tattoos save, money to save your money

641
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 2: when you save your. Money so, okay so what's? What

642
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 2: what's wo can't really? Like like everybody pictures full metal.

643
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 2: Jacket uh, right they, picture they, picture they picture metal. Bunks,

644
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: yeah picture drill, sergeant know your, names you, know dot,

645
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: schucker motherfucker everything?

646
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: Right?

647
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 6: Yeap and and yes or.

648
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 3: No you're up early in.

649
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: The morning running doing ship climbing ropes and. Ladders what's

650
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 2: it really?

651
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 5: Like so it's like that five mornings every, morning five

652
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 5: am for it's eight, weeks so five am everywhere every.

653
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 5: Morning it's no naps throughout the. Day you go to

654
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 5: bed at ten o'clock at night every day for eight.

655
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 5: Weeks so you're on a schedule and just everything is

656
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 5: pretty planned out from day one to the last. Day

657
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 5: just imagine a day of like no breaks is literally it's.

658
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 5: Eating you're drill, drilling your marching your you're learning, history military,

659
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 5: History you're learning military, lingo how they talk like water

660
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 5: fowls are called like scuttle, butts just.

661
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 6: Like learning the, Galley Like i'm calling it to the.

662
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 6: Galley to these, guys they're, like what is the galley

663
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 6: with the.

664
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Speaker 5: Cafeteria So i'm just learning military, talk learning military. History

665
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 5: you're doing that from five am to ten, pm and that.

666
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 2: Alone it's just it's just how many how many times

667
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: did you call your mom and SAY i want to come?

668
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 3: Home oh my?

669
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 5: God the first time you, Don't so you don't get

670
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 5: your first phone call WHEN i went until LIKE i,

671
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 5: THINK i want to, say like four three weeks, in

672
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 5: so you're there for three weeks without nothing like they

673
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,479
Speaker 5: might they want to, that they'll go out their way

674
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 5: to mail you like. That but you don't talk to

675
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 5: your people for three weeks or. SOMETHING i want to,

676
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 5: say three or four, weeks you don't get that phone.

677
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 5: Call that first phone. CALL i went in the middle

678
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 5: of the, winter that first phone call we. Had we

679
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 5: had to march all the way to the phone call.

680
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 5: Place it was raining in Like Jane. February it was so,

681
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 5: cold it was. RAINING i just was over, it like over.

682
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 5: IT i hadn't talked to my, family So i'm about,

683
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 5: to but the emotions are building up to make that phone.

684
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 6: Call WHEN i thought my, PEOPLE i.

685
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 5: CRIED i was, LIKE i don't know IF i could

686
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 5: DO i DON'T i KNEW i could do, it but

687
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 5: at that, time we're just us marching all way in

688
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 5: the cold weather the.

689
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 6: RAIN i was just, LIKE i don't know IF i

690
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 6: could do.

691
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 5: It and they were just telling, me like they're proud of,

692
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 5: me and they HAVE i been getting their letters and

693
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 5: stuff like that and just encourage.

694
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: It BUT i.

695
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 6: CRIED i was real.

696
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 3: Emotional they to get done with boot. Camp mm.

697
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 6: Hmm then what? Happens BASICALLY i go to my school

698
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 6: to teach me my. JOB i learned my job in the.

699
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 6: Military but how did you.

700
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 3: Know what your job was going to? Be like you

701
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 3: get a letter in the? Mail did they call you?

702
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 3: In like how does it all?

703
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 5: Work so for The, navy you know before you go

704
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 5: to boot. Camp SO i knew what my job, was

705
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 5: but they tried to put me on a. Submarine SO

706
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 5: i changed my job actually my firstmarine. Exactly so my

707
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 5: first original orders WAS i supposed to do only four

708
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 5: years in the.

709
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 6: Military and be a logistics specialist on a.

710
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 5: Submarine and then in the middle of boot camp they

711
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 5: asked everyone for who was a submarine. Rate we're giving

712
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 5: you opportunity to tell as if you actually want to,

713
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 5: go AND i told them, no and why they asked.

714
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 6: That that's exactly why they asked me that. Question that's

715
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 6: a good.

716
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 3: QUESTION i don't. Know you don't know. THIS i love.

717
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 3: You oh you Said i'm too. TALL i just don't

718
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: feel claustrophobic or.

719
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 6: Somebody that's exactly WHAT i. TOLD i feel.

720
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 5: Claustrophobe become too, tall AND i don't think that's the

721
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 5: right thing for. Me they, didn't they didn't question.

722
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 6: It they gave me a new. Job they only gave

723
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 6: me like three. Options SO i have a, desk.

724
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,479
Speaker 3: Du hure three.

725
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 5: OPTIONS i was, like they all were in the same.

726
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 5: Category so a fireman in the, military which is A.

727
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 6: Dc even.

728
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 5: Machine is, made which is an, engineer and ALSO i

729
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 5: want to, say like AN O s or something like,

730
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 5: that which is operation. Specialist but it SEEMED i WISH

731
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 5: i want chose that, rate but it just seemed it.

732
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 5: Didn't it didn't sound appealing to. Me SO i chose

733
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 5: the engineer. Rate, okay machine is.

734
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 3: Made so you're a.

735
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 2: Mechanic, yeah, yeah, Yeah and the way you describe it

736
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 2: to me IS i Don't i'm not really. Mechanic and

737
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 2: just you tell me to turn and wren shall turn

738
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 2: the rent she tell.

739
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 6: Me literally literally was taking.

740
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: It.

741
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 3: Okay so so you you get down and they teach

742
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 3: sending your. School where's?

743
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 6: School uh so for.

744
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 5: That engineering, mechanic the school is also In. Chicago SO

745
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 5: i stayed and usually they have different basis for your.

746
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 5: School Uh Cali Virginia mons was In. Chicago SO i

747
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 5: did boot camp In chicago AND i did my school In. Chicago,

748
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 5: okay so you.

749
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 3: Go To chicago and what was your plan at the?

750
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 3: Time how long did you want to do this for?

751
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 6: IT i wanted. IT i was saying. TWENTY i was,

752
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 6: Like i'm gonna just do it through twenty, years retire

753
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 6: from it through twenty.

754
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 3: Years, Okay so what's Your how long is the training

755
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: of how to do, it how do?

756
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 6: EVERYTHING i was there for it's like Three it's like

757
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 6: roughly like three, months But mons was like.

758
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 3: Five and then what is like what's your day?

759
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: Like is it's still to you, know eight in the

760
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 2: morning OR i mean five in the morning or what

761
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: time are you getting.

762
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 5: Up so once you completely boot, camp you're technically like

763
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 5: like part of your in so it gets way more.

764
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 5: Easier now you're living like an actual like person but

765
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 5: kind of like a. Student so it gave like a college.

766
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 5: Environment so you're in, dorms but you have free, time

767
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 5: so you have your classes to certain days and stuff like.

768
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 5: That if you don't have, class then you're basically like

769
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 5: cleaning and stuff throughout the day UNTIL i, say like

770
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 5: two o'clock and then basically you're free for the rest

771
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 5: of the.

772
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 6: Day so it basically turned into like a college on

773
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 6: campus type.

774
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 3: Thing and none of this time you're playing.

775
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 5: Basketball, nope not playing basketball at, all but are you

776
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 5: working at? What i'm not even working, Out i'm not doing.

777
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 5: Nothing i'm Not i'm playing a game the first that's

778
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 5: the first. Thing i've set up my game and my

779
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 5: roommate at the time he had a game, too so

780
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 5: we both playing a game beside each.

781
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,439
Speaker 3: Other so, wait, way so you're you have like a dorm,

782
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 3: room like like college dorm.

783
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 6: Room, yeah and you're.

784
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 3: Still in two k this. Time are you're in?

785
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 6: College now you're in The Navy i'm still on hall

786
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 6: of TWO. K still on TWO k?

787
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 3: Two CAN i? Sire? Yeah when did you make the

788
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 3: switch to call of?

789
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 6: DUTY i want to say more.

790
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 3: Recently you get out of the military and now you

791
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 3: want to be. Military.

792
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah.

793
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 3: How good are you with a? Gun BECAUSE i know

794
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 3: within basic you do, guns.

795
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 6: So they HAVE i was like a regular, marksman so

796
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 6: you get ribbons and stuff like. That SO i had a.

797
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 5: Ribbon some people don't get, ribbons SO i take pride

798
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 5: in THAT i was in an expert and nothing does?

799
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 3: Everybody does everybody get a ribbon or?

800
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 2: Everyone so, okay give me give me a sense of

801
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: like how far away you can shoot something and and

802
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: and and and do well with?

803
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 5: It in basketball, terms If i'm on one baseline the

804
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 5: other baseline for, SHOOT i THINK i feel like if

805
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,439
Speaker 5: you're standing, still even if you if you're standing, Still

806
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 5: i'll definitely could.

807
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 6: Hit you a couple of. Times, Okay so that's that's

808
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 6: a good that's a.

809
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 3: Deming do you know how far it is? Baseline the

810
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 3: baseline is that ninety four?

811
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 5: Feet?

812
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: CORRECT i just like.

813
00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 2: That there you, go ninety four Fifty see we're we're

814
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 2: getting ground.

815
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 3: There, Okay so when when do you go to your?

816
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 3: Job when three months then you go right to your.

817
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 5: Job, yeah so they basically like after three months they

818
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 5: tell you like where you're, going so you don't know

819
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 5: where you're. Going SO i finally found out That i'm

820
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 5: going To, Norfolk, virginia which is only like three hours

821
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 5: away from.

822
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 6: My, house like WHERE i grew up.

823
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 3: At great were you? HAPPY i?

824
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: Was?

825
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 6: AH i really kind. OF i wanted to go To.

826
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 6: Cali why did you want to go To?

827
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 3: Cali even? Then have you ever been at that?

828
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 5: Point i've never been To, cali BUT i just KNEW

829
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 5: i wanted. To at this, POINT i did boot, Camp

830
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 5: i've been away from.

831
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 3: FAMILY i.

832
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 5: DIDN'T i got used to being away from, them SO i.

833
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 5: DIDN'T i just wanted to go for just to enjoy

834
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 5: The West. COAST i Never my first time on the

835
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 5: airplane was to go To. Chicago so at this, POINT

836
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 5: i just want To NOW i want to see the,

837
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 5: world SO i want to just travel at this.

838
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 6: Point so.

839
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: All, right that's it for part one.

840
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 2: This interview With ramelbtha wish just. Luck thanks so much for.

841
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: Listening I'm Doug. Gottlieb this Is.

842
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 3: Elbow yeh