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Speaker 1: Snathan Ziggura and Ron Cherry. Good evening and welcome to

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the University Hospitals Cleveland Brown's radio network.

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Speaker 1: I've seen him. At times. I was like, hey, you

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Speaker 1: might want to consider putting him in there when other

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Speaker 1: guys were struggling at the tackles spot because I thought

433
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Speaker 1: he did so well in spot duty. So I'm looking

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Speaker 1: forward to this. I hope and pray Nathan for his

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Speaker 1: sake that he embraces this. He doesn't go into the

436
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Speaker 1: mentality and fear and failure and worry about making mistakes.

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Speaker 1: But you know what's more, if anything, angry about what

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Speaker 1: took place last year, knowing that he could be better

439
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 1: than that, and he plays better. So you're exactly right

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Speaker 1: for someone who's gonna have to step up, because right

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Speaker 1: now you're t J. Watts doing He's looking at the

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Speaker 1: film from last year saying, yeah, I'm about to do this, dude. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he would listen. T J Watt. Okay, I talked

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Speaker 1: about it going into the break. T J Watt. So

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00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 1: far for this team, they're seven and two with him,

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00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,119
Speaker 1: one and six without seven teen point two points per

447
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Speaker 1: game with him, twenty five point three without six yards

448
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 1: a game with him three eighty nine without twenty five

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00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 1: sacks and nine games with him eight sacks and seven

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Speaker 1: games without him. Sixteen takeaways in nine games with him,

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Speaker 1: five in seven games without him. By the way, he

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Speaker 1: has been very good against the Browns. He has fourteen

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Speaker 1: and a half sacks in nine career games, second most

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Speaker 1: first any opponent in the NFL since the started the

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Speaker 1: two thousand and seventeen season. Cam Jordan's of New Orleans

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Speaker 1: has fifteen against Atlanta. But t J. Watts missed the

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Speaker 1: last two games that the Browns and the Steelers have played.

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Speaker 1: So yes, James Sudson, you have an opportunity to put

459
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Speaker 1: some tape out there. If Jack Conklin is unable to go,

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Speaker 1: that will certainly resonate if you can handle t J.

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Speaker 1: Watt in this one. In football, making a big hit

462
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Speaker 1: after the whistle can be huge trouble knowing when to

463
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Speaker 1: stop his critical for football players and four gamblers. So

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00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 1: always set a time limt before gambling and keep things fun.

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Speaker 1: Learn more and keep it fun Ohio dot com. When

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Speaker 1: we come back, I sit down with the Brown's head

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Speaker 1: coach Kevin Stefanski. You are listening to the Kevin Stefanski

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Speaker 1: Show on the University Hospitals Cleveland brownsdo Network. For me,

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to make the right decision for each

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Speaker 1: of our players. This is the Coach Kevin Stefanski Show.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Kevin Stefanski Show all along the

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Speaker 1: University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network. Joined now by the

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Speaker 1: head coach of your Cleveland Brown's coming off of a

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Speaker 1: win that ended the season for the Washington Commanders in Washington.

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00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 1: The game they wanted to have, they did not get it,

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Speaker 1: And Coach, let's start with this. My opinion thought that

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Speaker 1: was the best third quarter, kind of quarter and a

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Speaker 1: half from the third into the middle of the fourth,

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Speaker 1: and then at that point we kind of shut down offensively.

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Speaker 1: That maybe we played as a football team all three

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Speaker 1: phases this year. Would you think, Yeah, I think that's

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Speaker 1: fair and that you know, you go on the road

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Speaker 1: and you you're playing good teams and you gotta play

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00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,679
Speaker 1: a team game. You gotta play a complete game. And

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Speaker 1: I thought, obviously our defense played really really well throughout

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Speaker 1: really one drive that that we gave up there, but

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Speaker 1: kept the offense in it, kept our team in it,

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Speaker 1: and then the offense obviously responded there in the third quarter.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. That had to be a nice

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00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,679
Speaker 1: feeling for you, nice relief for you, the players, And

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Speaker 1: it started with that good ball, little speed out to

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Speaker 1: Amri Cooper breaks the tackle and that kind of opened

494
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Speaker 1: the floodgates for you there. But how did that quarter

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Speaker 1: kind of feel the rhythm you were able to get into. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean we needed it because we really had opportunities

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Speaker 1: in the first quarter and we're just there was a

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Speaker 1: we're off, and we're off in in a bunch of

499
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Speaker 1: different areas, and when you're off, you're not gonna have

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Speaker 1: precision in the past game, and that's really was the

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00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: bugaboo for us. But then too, obviously, then the flip

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Speaker 1: side of that as you then all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: you're on and the throws are there, the routes are there,

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Speaker 1: the protections there um, and that really was a great

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00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 1: thing to see in terms of Mari making plays. A

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Speaker 1: bunch of different guys getting the ball in their hands

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Speaker 1: and making plays in their secondary and I think you

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Speaker 1: hit on something right there. It takes all eleven. We

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Speaker 1: talked about a lot in the run game, but in

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Speaker 1: the past game too, because your first trip to the

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00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: red zone you had that kind of angle rout. I

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Speaker 1: think it was I don't remember, it was DPJ or Mari.

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Speaker 1: It was open and we just couldn't get them the

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Speaker 1: football and it was would have been a walk in

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Speaker 1: touchdown and instead that ends up being an empty drive

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Speaker 1: for us. Yeah. And and again, I mean, you're going

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Speaker 1: up against a really good front, not not to say

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Speaker 1: that it's easy. Uh, So you're gonna have moments like that.

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Speaker 1: But you know, for us, we're just trying to have

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Speaker 1: precision in what we're doing running pass. Uh. And it's

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Speaker 1: and you mentioned it, it does take eleven guys. You

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Speaker 1: think about the run game. One guy misses their block

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Speaker 1: and you can turn into a zero yard run and

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Speaker 1: you say, well, if you got his job done, that

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Speaker 1: would have gone. So that's what the strive for us,

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Speaker 1: certainly offensively, is to be about the details, know exactly

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Speaker 1: what we need to do and then try and go

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Speaker 1: do it, uh, and going to do it against good

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Speaker 1: football teams and including this week, this is It's way

530
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Speaker 1: easier said than done. You can draw the play up

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Speaker 1: on the board and it looks good, but you gotta

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Speaker 1: go out there and be able to do it against

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Speaker 1: some really good players. Well, I'll talk about a couple

534
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 1: of plays that I thought were really kind of fun

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00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: and in that game, the first was de Shaun's run.

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00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: We had been you know, weren't shotgun. We would like

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Speaker 1: to run that kind of pin pull across the formation

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Speaker 1: of the backs on the left, and then you gave

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Speaker 1: them that look. They thought it was going there, but

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Speaker 1: you actually pulled the front side back and kept it

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Speaker 1: for DeShawn end up picking up I think twenty two

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Speaker 1: yards on that play. What kind of led to that design?

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Speaker 1: And I've sleep I'm sure you're pleased with the way

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Speaker 1: that it was executed. Yeah, I think Deshaun has had

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Speaker 1: a ton of success in his career college pro on

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Speaker 1: designed runs and a lot of those design runs he

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Speaker 1: has a read key and he's reading that key and

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Speaker 1: the ball may go to the back, he may pull

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Speaker 1: it and run, he may throw it at times. So

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Speaker 1: it's just diving into those type of concepts that allow

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Speaker 1: him to make decisions with the ball in his hands,

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Speaker 1: which he's done a very very good job of uh,

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Speaker 1: and even a small detail, but the ball handling on

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00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,479
Speaker 1: that play, and on those type of plays you have

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00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: to be great with the running backs, great with the

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Speaker 1: quarterback and because that ball can go in either person's belly,

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Speaker 1: so to speak. So I thought he made some really

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00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: nice decisions that play in particularly blocked really really well,

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Speaker 1: got the look we thought we would get, uh, and

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Speaker 1: then he did a nice job that that's a play

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Speaker 1: that you really see across the NFL. You see it

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Speaker 1: in high school games. It's uh, the proliferation of quarterback

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00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: design runs is out there in our game, and it's

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00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: something that we're exploring, as you see. And then you

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00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: kind of built off that in a way on the

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Speaker 1: touchdown where it's kind of a play action you pulled

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Speaker 1: the tonio and then actually had him blocked the end

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Speaker 1: there in space. You obviously got to look you on

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Speaker 1: on the atam Or. I talked to him yesterday. He said,

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Speaker 1: as soon as I was like five steps into my route,

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Speaker 1: I knew I was gonna be wide open and that

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Speaker 1: was gonna be a good one. So what was kind

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Speaker 1: of that design and how did that come to be? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just move in the pocket and and there's different ways

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00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: to move the pocket. Obviously you have your keeper game,

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Speaker 1: which you're trying to get on the edge, but sometimes

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00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: teams don't allow you to. So this is a way

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00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 1: to move the pocket with protection. So you have a

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Speaker 1: tight end on the front side who can chip an end.

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Speaker 1: And then you mentioned Joel bringing Joel across the block it.

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Speaker 1: You know, on that play they fired the nickel and

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00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb again talking about Q details did his job.

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Speaker 1: Hey Nick, if they blitz off this backside, you got him.

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00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: They blitz Nick blocks him and when you do that defensively,

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Speaker 1: you better get home because that does end up leaving

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Speaker 1: a lot of air in your secondary. And I thought

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Speaker 1: that's what we took advantage of, all right. So the

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00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 1: play that got me the most fired up wasn't out

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00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: a touchdown, but it just showed to me like, alright,

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00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: de Sean is feeling it, he's seeing it. So we

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00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: had I think three to the left chief in the slot,

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00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: they run a coverage invert. Basically he recognized that throws

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Speaker 1: it into the hole in the cover to back shoulder

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00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: away from the safety, which was actually the corner. But

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Speaker 1: I thought that was just awesome. Yeah, that was big time.

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Speaker 1: And what was so impressive about that is that that

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00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: throws from the far hash and that where that ball

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00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: went to Dave. Versus that coverage, you would never think

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00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: the balls going there. It's not designed to go there.

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Speaker 1: But they did a nice job in their disguise. And

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Speaker 1: Deshaun what he did was he trusted his eyeballs and

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00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: you can say, hey, versus covered two, we're not thinking

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00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: this inside fade, but hey, it's covered two. I'll be

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00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: a designer cover to a different way to get to

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Speaker 1: cover two. And there's air here that there's space here

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00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: for our inside fade route, which we did not think

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00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: it was gonna be there. And he said, well he's open.

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00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to drive it on him. And to have

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Speaker 1: the ability, the skill level in his arm strength to

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00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: be able to drive that for Dave to have the

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Speaker 1: wherewithal to get his eyes back and feel that zone

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00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: and start to gear in that zone, that was a

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00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: really important play for us to make in that drive.

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Speaker 1: So when you're on the sideline, you call a play

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00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: because you say, sometimes we get a look like in

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00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 1: the reads on the touch on the DPJ. That what

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00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 1: the sean said after the games like we'd run that

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00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: play if we knew if we got that look, it

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Speaker 1: was gonna work, and it did and he made it

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00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: look like you know, and then came back to DPJ

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Speaker 1: for the touchdown. But for one like that, for example,

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00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: pre snap, you probably are thinking, all right, here's what

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Speaker 1: I think based on what they're doing, what they're showing,

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00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: what this play is, here's where I think the ball

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00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: is gonna go. And then all of a sudden they

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00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: rotate out of it, he sees it, rips it to

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00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 1: the back shoulder. Or are you just like, oh, okay, yeah,

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00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: I mean it's obviously with with quarterbacks, you know, you

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00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: want to just give them plays that they see that

630
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: they trust because and then there's a little bit of hey,

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00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: I I think they're gonna play this coverage based on

632
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: this down to distance. I think they're gonna play this coverage.

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00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: So let's call this play. And the truth is there

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00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: are some plays that are pure progressions or here they're

635
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: all everything bagels, like, all right, this play is good

636
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,719
Speaker 1: versus all coverages. You're gonna progress there. There's other players

637
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: you say, all right, we're really hunting up this progression.

638
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: If we don't get it, We're gonna check it down.

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00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: With DeShawn and and the and really good quarterbacks, what

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00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: you do is you just call the plays that they're

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00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: comfortable with, and you get this feeling that they're gonna

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00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: make it work. Uh out. That again goes back to

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00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,239
Speaker 1: taking all eleven. It's not one person to do that.

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Speaker 1: But when you have a quarterback that's comfortable with, a

645
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: player that knows where everybody is, can can know how

646
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,719
Speaker 1: to snap back to a checkdown, can know all right,

647
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have this route. I feel really good about

648
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: this matchup. I'm gonna let it rip. But it's really

649
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: their comfort level overall with that concept. Alright, we talked

650
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: a lot about him granted help, but had a great game.

651
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: You mentioned that d played a great game, and we're

652
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: having so much fun talking ball. We gotta get to

653
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: this Steelers game. Big game for them, opportunity for us

654
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: to do something that hasn't happened since and that is

655
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: sweep them in a season. Obviously that's a big deal.

656
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: Brunze one three the last four. But you talk about

657
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: this offense, this is going to be a test this

658
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: defense since they've gotten t J. Watt back seventeen points

659
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: a game, two six yards a game, sacks, sixteen takeaways,

660
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: their seven and two with him, and really their top

661
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: five in the league in every category since he's come back.

662
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: What challenges do they present and what are they doing

663
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: differently other than having t J. Watt from the first

664
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: time that we played them. Yeah, obviously they're playing at

665
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: a high level as a team, certainly as a defense.

666
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: What looks he always does, you know, it's it's not

667
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: like a guy coming off of an injury that doesn't

668
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: look like himself. He looks like himself. So they're they're

669
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: doing what they do, which is they really play their

670
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: defense at a high level that they're stopping the run. Uh,

671
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: they're pressuring the quarterback like you mentioned, and they're doing

672
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: a nice job in the back end. So everything that

673
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: you get versus a defense like this you have to

674
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: earn um. We were very fortunate to be in some

675
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: manageable third downs in the first game and and converted

676
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: our third downs at a high clip, which turned into

677
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: thirty six minutes at time of possession. That's that's the

678
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: goal versus a team like this, But you are really

679
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: really gonna have to earn it. So they blitz a lot.

680
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: You know that, Blitzberg. We've always heard that, but it's

681
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: interesting their coverage as I went back and look from

682
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: the first time, still a lot of middlefield close one

683
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: and three, that's their predominant coverage. But they're playing more

684
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: Cover two than I recall them ever playing. They don't

685
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: really play quarters, so if it's too high, it's either

686
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: Cover two or a Cover six type. How do you

687
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: kind of assess that deal with that as you go

688
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: through kind of preparing for their scheme. Yeah, that's definitely

689
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: in their DNA. You know, coach Tomlin came from up

690
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: A Bay before we worked together in Minnesota. Coach Tomlin

691
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: came from Tampa Bay, whereas with Monty Kiffin and in

692
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: the Tampa two. So that's very much in their DNA.

693
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: Something that you have to be ready for and third down,

694
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 1: and they played a lot of it on first and

695
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: second down. Really buy down in distance by what they're

696
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: trying to take away. They'll they'll play it more in

697
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: certain games than others, but it's definitely part of what

698
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: they do. Speaking of Tampa two, how about Dion Jones

699
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: running the seam and and Grant coming from his landmark

700
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: across to get the first of his two picks in

701
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: that one in the game against Commanders. Yeah, great play

702
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: by Dion to just run through it and protect it

703
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: and then really are Grant was the front side safety

704
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: made the player backside safety in that type of play

705
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: should be able to overlap as well where you converge

706
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: on the ball. But you know, with Grant as impressive

707
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: as that one was, the second one, just to track

708
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: it over your shoulder, get your feet down. That's hard

709
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: for receivers to do. And he did a great job.

710
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: And he said he lost the ball for about five yards.

711
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: He didn't see it for about five yards and then

712
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: picked it back up and gets it in, gets his

713
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: feet there with m J. They're very impressive coaches. Is

714
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: gonna be a fun one. Played seven straight games that

715
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: have been won, score games have the Steilers. It's gonna

716
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: be a tight game. Guys ready for that. I know

717
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: you're excited about it, and it's gonna come down to, hey,

718
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: we have a chance to end their season in a

719
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: clutch moment. So it's gonna be fun. Yeah, we're excited

720
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: about the opportunity. And when we get you know, you

721
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: get one more. We know it's just one more but

722
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: we got our arrival on the road in a very

723
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: meaningful game. Coach, thanks so much for the time, and

724
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: best of luck against the Steelers. All right, we'll be

725
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: back with more of the Kevin Stefancy Show, all along

726
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: the University Hospitals Cleveland Brown's Radio Network. This is Brown's

727
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: cornerback Denzel Award. This is Brown's wide receiver Donovan People Jonas.

728
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: This is Joel Mattonio and you're listening to the University

729
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio network. University Hospitals is your hometown

730
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: medical team, an official healthcare provider of the Cleveland Browns.

731
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Kevin Stefanski Show, all along the

732
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: University Hospitals Cleveland Brown's Radio Network. Very happy now to

733
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: be joined by the Browns leading receiver. He has six

734
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: one thousand yards seasons, including this one wide receiver, Amari Cooper. Amar.

735
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: You hear the Coop chance come out from Andrew Berry

736
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: as he walks by there. Let's talk about last week,

737
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: you guys, first half, it wasn't clicking. All of a sudden,

738
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: you make a play, taken out to the house and

739
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: it just seemed like the floodgates open. What changed after

740
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: you made that touchdown. Yeah, you know, sometimes it's just

741
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: the way the cookie crumbles. You know, everything's not gonna

742
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: always go as plant and you have to make adjustments.

743
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: You know. I believe that's what halftime is for. You know,

744
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: players get get an opportunity to get a risk. Uh,

745
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: Coaches get an opportunity to come down from the from

746
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: wherever they're sitting, some of them who are on the

747
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: sideline and and communicate what they see out there, and

748
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: we make adjustments and we go out there and uh,

749
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: and we try to execute the adjustments that we made.

750
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: So that's what we did. So what were those adjustments?

751
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: What was kind of the plan going in the second

752
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: alfter you guys were able to execute at such a

753
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: high level. Yeah, I mean as far as the first touchdown,

754
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: you know, they were just playing a lot of off coverage,

755
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, So we just ran aroute that. Uh.

756
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: It was great to come back to off coverage and

757
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: I was able to break a tackle and just core um.

758
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: So just things like that. A lot of times when

759
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: you see that kind of catch on the sideline, the

760
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: instinct the receivers usually spend back in. What made you

761
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: feel like if I spend outside, maybe I can get

762
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: away from it and then obviously outrun the linebacker for

763
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: the touchdown. Yeah, I mean, if you see, it was

764
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: very subtle, but I kind of like gave a subtle

765
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: move to the inside and he thought I would turn inside,

766
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: and I was just enough for him to to miss

767
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: when I actually turned back outside. So I mean it

768
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: was cool. I mean I didn't expect honestly, I didn't

769
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: expect him to miss that tackle, but he did, so

770
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: it was it was Hey, it's ale. And then on

771
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: the second touchdown, obviously it was schemed up very well.

772
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: You got them to kind of fall exactly out of

773
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: the middle of the field, like you wanted to take

774
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 1: the deep route. You were wide open on that one.

775
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: When did you know you were going to get the ball?

776
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: Was a pre snap that you knew Okay, this says

777
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: this looks good to me, or when you were kind

778
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: of running that route? Uh yeah, I mean that was

779
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: just a great um call by coach. Yeah. Man, I

780
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: mean he watched the film all week. He he understands

781
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: the tendencies, He understands world routes. We need to put

782
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: in the playbook to combat that UM as far as

783
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: when I knew I was getting the ball. It wasn't

784
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: really priest that becau. They discussed a lot when I

785
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: was like halfway in the route, and then that's not

786
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: kind of knew, Hey, I'm gonna be wide open right here.

787
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: And then we were past the fifties, so I was like,

788
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: if I get this ball, I'm probably gonna score. So

789
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: and you did. You got right to that piline, your

790
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: second touchdown of the day. That gave you nine touchdowns

791
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: on the season in Brown's history. That's the most anybody's

792
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: had nine receiving touchdow since two thousand and fifteen. It

793
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: was tight end Gary Barne. You went to the Pro Bowl,

794
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: most by a receiver since two thousand thirteen, Josh Gordon.

795
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: And also for you, a career high right nine touchdowns.

796
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: What did that mean to you? And and did you

797
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: ever think when you got the call that you're gonna

798
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: be traded here to Cleveland that you would set your

799
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: new career high in touchdowns that you would be going

800
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: into this game and it certainly is doable. Right just

801
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: around eight yards away from setting a new career high

802
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: in receiving yards, did you think that was gonna be

803
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: the outcome. Yeah, I definitely thought it was only hurrahs.

804
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm always trying to get better every year.

805
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: You know, the oh saying if you're not getting better,

806
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: getting worse, and uh, I certainly just have so much

807
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: more in the tank, you know what I mean, especially

808
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: when I'm healthy. But yeah, of course, I mean I'm

809
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: gonna keep getting better and better. I trained too hard

810
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: to not get better. Um and I you know, I

811
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: still feel like I could do all the things that

812
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: I was able to do when I was a rookie,

813
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, in terms of my releases

814
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: and my speed, my route running, uh, my hands. So yeah,

815
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: to be honest, I expected to do more, you know,

816
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: coming to the Browns, especially when I found out we

817
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: were gonna have de Shine. Uh so yeah, yeah, you know,

818
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,439
Speaker 1: hopefully after this game I could set some more career

819
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: highs and then do it again next year and keep

820
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: going on and on. Because you talked about de Sean

821
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: and you can see that chemistry started to click. The

822
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: first two games you were banged up, he was kind

823
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 1: of just kind of feeling himself up. With the last three,

824
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: you guys have really been in good sink and you

825
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: can see the numbers of production and that kind of

826
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: started a couple of games ago for me where he

827
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: threw that deep out too from the far hash, which

828
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 1: was a hell of a ball, great route by you,

829
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: And Okay, these guys are on the same page. Have

830
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: you felt that chemistry building? Do you feel like you're

831
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: still just scratching the tip of the iceberg because you

832
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: haven't gotten a full offseason together, in a full season

833
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: together in Yeah, the chemistry is definitely building for sure. Um.

834
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: You know, obviously with the Sean coming back shaking some

835
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: of the rust off, I was just we were just

836
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: watching film on the game, and I mean he did

837
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: some tremendous things. I mean, it was it was incredible.

838
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: I Mean it's very unfortunate that as soon as he

839
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: came back the game that he got he came back,

840
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: I got kind of banged up. So it's kind of

841
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: like more so for the fans than it was for me,

842
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: because I know they wanted to see, um, you know, fireworks,

843
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: and that's what that's what we want to give them. Um.

844
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: But I'm kind of glad it happened, you know, for

845
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: these last six games that I was banged up when

846
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: he came to a degree because, um, you know, it

847
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: challenges me. Um. You know, sometimes you gotta chain to

848
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 1: be better at your worst than the guy you're going

849
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: against at his best, and that's a very hard thing

850
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: to do, but that's what you're trained for. Um. And

851
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: so I'm kind of getting that. I'm kind of I'm

852
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: kind of getting that challenge now, and it's been It's

853
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: been a great challenge for me, you know what I mean.

854
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: I wouldn't I wouldn't. I mean, obviously I would rather

855
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: be healthy, but you know, if this is the way

856
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Speaker 1: it has to be, then it's cool. Does it mean

857
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Speaker 1: something to when you hear your team, because obviously they

858
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: know better than anybody what you're actually going through. To

859
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: hear them talk about how courageous it's been for you

860
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Speaker 1: to go out there to play the way you have

861
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Speaker 1: and then to still be able to produce the way

862
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Speaker 1: that you are. Yeah, yeah. I mean a couple of

863
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: guys on this team has had the injury that I

864
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: have now, uh uh, and I've just been talking to them, um,

865
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Speaker 1: you know, asking for advice and stuff like that. Um,

866
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Speaker 1: So yeah, definitely they know what I'm going through. Some

867
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Speaker 1: of them have played with it some of them had

868
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Speaker 1: you know, I was training with it and all season

869
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: had to get surgery and stuff like that. So, um,

870
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Speaker 1: like I like I alluded to earlier. You know, um

871
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Speaker 1: gotta you gotta try to be better at your worst

872
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: than the guy you're going against at his best. And

873
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's it's a it's a it's

874
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: a heck of a challenge because it challenges you not

875
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Speaker 1: just physically, but mentally as well. And uh, I'm just

876
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: up forward, you know what I mean. Everything is not

877
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: going to be sunny all the time, but you still

878
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: got to produce. That's that's the name of the game.

879
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: And uh, you know that's something that I want to do.

880
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: I want to be productive for my teammates. I want

881
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: to be productive, um for the organization. So and you

882
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: were productive even go back to two weeks ago. You

883
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: think about, like how many yards were passed for in

884
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: that game. It was pretty much the Mr. Cooper Show

885
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: really for on both sides. They couldn't throw the ball.

886
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 1: It was tough a couple of weeks ago in those elements.

887
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: What was that game like for your Florida guy? You

888
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: talk about being cold, you were in pain. It's tough

889
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: to get loose obviously under those circumstances. And you went

890
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: out there was that when you knew, like, all right,

891
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: I'm starting to click with him and I know that

892
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: I can overcome this completely. Yeah, I mean it was

893
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: it was a tough surface. I had never played any before,

894
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: so I didn't really know what to expect. Nobody should

895
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,919
Speaker 1: play that. I mean, it's craziness. Yeah, but I would

896
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: say it wasn't as bad as it looked. Um, it's

897
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: just football at end of the day, like a unique

898
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: thing about receivers. Hey, we gotta make the play, no

899
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: doubt about that. But the dB has to guard us,

900
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: you know. So if it's slippery for me, I could

901
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: just imagine, um, how sleeper it is for the guy

902
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: who's guarding me. Because I'm I'm being more proactive, he's

903
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: been more reactive. So uh yeah, I just try to

904
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: stay positive. So you knew about rivalries. Start your career

905
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: with the Raiders. Obviously a lot of rivalries in that

906
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: a f C West. You go to the Cowboys. Cowboys

907
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: have rivals everybody in that division as well. You come here,

908
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: this is a division with storied rivalries. Brown's Steelers and

909
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're aware of this or not.

910
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: It was all before your time. The last time the

911
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: Round swept the Steelers in the season was yes, a

912
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: long long time ago. You guys have an opportunity to

913
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: do that. What kind of a message would that send?

914
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: To be able to get that sweep, to be able

915
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: to go for and two in the division and have

916
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,479
Speaker 1: an opportunity to end the season of arrival. It's great.

917
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody who plays football obviously know about rivalries.

918
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: You know, we all have our rivalries in high school,

919
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: college and in the pros um and I think about

920
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: the pros the arrived. The rivalries are so storied, like

921
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: you just mentioned, you know, we grew up. I'm in

922
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: high school just watching NFL working stuff all the time,

923
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: and I would just watch the different segments that they had,

924
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, they would just talk about how

925
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: important the rivalry games were, how competitive they were, and

926
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: the thing about it is that they go down in history,

927
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: like maybe someday some kid will be watching uh me

928
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 1: versus the Steelers on NFL Network and get inspired by it. So,

929
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: you know, I try to keep stuff like that in

930
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: mind when I go out there and play. Uh just

931
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: so I could be remembered. You know who doesn't want

932
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: to be remember you know you're gonna be remembered. Four

933
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 1: time Pro Bowl or six thousand yard seasons and and

934
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: many more in the future to come. I just want

935
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: to say it has been an absolute pleasure again to

936
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:33,959
Speaker 1: know you. It's been a pleasure to watch you work.

937
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: I appreciate so much the dedication you have to your

938
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: craft and our past conversations. I find it to be

939
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: unique and it's one of the reasons I think you

940
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: are who you are, natural talent, the work ethics. So

941
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 1: thank you so much for what you brought to the Browns,

942
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: this community and what you do out on the field.

943
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you for your time,

944
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 1: and we'll be back with more of the Kevin Stefanci

945
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: Show all along the University Hospitals Cleveland Brown's radio network.

946
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: I feel like I have people in the building that

947
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: can tell me the truth, and I think that's really

948
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: important because I don't want this to be a place

949
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: where I don't get the truth from our guys. This

950
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: is the Coach Kevin Stefanski Show. You're listening to the

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Speaker 1: University Hospitals Cleveland Browns Radio Network be part of one

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Speaker 1: of the most passionate fan bases in the NFL. Joined

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Speaker 1: Slash tickets are called four four oho five zero to

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Speaker 1: reserve your spot today. All right, First of all, he

958
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: gotta lovel Mari Cooper right what he has brought to

959
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: this football team. Chance to have a career high and

960
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: receiving yards already has a career high and receiving touchdowns.

961
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: Very excited and very gracious for the time he spends

962
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: with us, and really for the time that he spends

963
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: honing his craft to be in elite number one, which

964
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 1: he is. What a trade by general manager Andrew Berry.

965
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: All Right, Key's the victory to hand Mike Tomlin his

966
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: first losing season, to hand the Steelers their first losing

967
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: season in nineteen years. To sweep the Steelers for the

968
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: first time since nineteen eighty eight, the Browns need to

969
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: number one go back to it in the turnover battle,

970
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: have a clean slate. The Browns have won every single

971
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: game this year where they have had a victory in

972
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: the turnover margin. Including last week, I believe they are

973
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: now six and oh in those games are five and

974
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, in those games they are not in the residum.

975
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: They are two and nine. Number two. You gotta get

976
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: yourself here, and Kevin sa Fancy say, manageable third downs

977
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: on offense, manageable third down distances so that t. J.

978
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: Watt Alex Heismith can't just pin their ears back and

979
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: get after the quarterback. And then I would say the

980
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: opposite for us defensively, you've gotta stop nag Harris. They're

981
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: gonna come out really try to run the football with

982
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 1: Harris and warm get them in to third and longs

983
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: as it goes. Coming up this Sunday, nine AM Brown's

984
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: Game Day with Ken Carmen and Gerard Cherry, eleven AM

985
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 1: Brown's Kickoff with Ken, Andy Baskin and Tymas Fowell. One

986
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: o'clock Kickoff with Jim Donovan, the Voice of the Browns,

987
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 1: myself and Gerard Cherry from Akersher Stadium in Pittsburgh. Big

988
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: shout out to Meredith Kane and Jason Gibbs. Thank you

989
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: to all of you for being with us all year

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00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: long listening to the Kevin Stefanski Show. All along the

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