1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: I never thought I could run a marathon. I never 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: thought I could run a half marathon. I never thought 3 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: I could run a ten k. And it's like, you 4 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: do these things and you're like, who is this girl? 5 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: Like I look back and I'm like, I knew she 6 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: was always there. But it's so cool because you're always 7 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: becoming and to see your self evolved, this is so awesome. 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: Hey, everyone, Emily A Body bringing you a special installment 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 2: of Hurdle, a wellness focused podcast where I sit down 10 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 2: with inspiring individuals to talk about everything from their big 11 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: wins to how they've gotten through life's toughest moments. On 12 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 2: the show, what you can expect vulnerability, motivation, and candid 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: discussions with everyone from top athletes to aspiring entrepreneurs, and 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: what it really takes to follow your passions. My mission 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: is simple to inspire you to be your best self, 16 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: move with intention, and have fun along the way. For 17 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 2: today's special episode, I am bringing you my conversation from 18 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 2: last weekend at the New York road Runners Run Center 19 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: featuring the New Balance Run Hub. 20 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 3: I chatted with Samia Akbar. She's the marketing manager for 21 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 3: New Balance. 22 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: Mollie Ridderbeck, she is the fitness, training and health director 23 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: for Runners World Magazine and Bicycling, as well as Lindsay 24 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: Clayton of Barrie's Booth Camp, senior instructor, run coach and 25 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: co founder of Brave Body Project, and the four of 26 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 2: Us gals caught up in honor of International Woman's Day 27 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: and talked about how sport has made us who we 28 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: are today. I love what Lindsay said about our discussion 29 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,639 Speaker 2: on her Instagram. She said, the more we as women 30 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: tell our stories, the tales of our successes, are failures 31 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 2: and everything in between, the more we can learn from 32 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: each other and intern lift each other up. Couldn't have 33 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: summed it up better myself. If you like what you 34 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: hear today, tag me over on Instagram and Twitter. It's 35 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: at Herdle podcast at a Body and a huge thanks 36 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 2: to my friends at New Balance for having us. They're 37 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: offering Hurdle listeners a really awesome deal. 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So stay safe, wash your hands, 58 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 2: and be kind to people. Okay with that, let's get 59 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:29,119 Speaker 2: to hurdling. Let's introduce the ladies to my left, I'll 60 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 2: hand it over to you. No one introduces anyone better 61 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 2: than themselves, so lindsay kick me off. 62 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: Hi, guys, I'm Lindsay. 63 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: I am a run coach, I am a senior instructor 64 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: at Berry's boot Camp and I'm the co founder of 65 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: Brave Body Project. 66 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 4: Hello everyone, good to see your smiling faces. My name 67 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 4: is Samia Akbar and I work at New Balance Athletics, Inc. 68 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 5: Based in Boston. 69 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 4: I work in the marketing department and I'm responsible for 70 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 4: launching all of our performance running product around the globe. 71 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: Hi, I'm Molly Ridderbeck. 72 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 6: I am the fitness, training and health director at Runners 73 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 6: World Magazine and Bicycling Magazine. 74 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: All right, so today we are talking about women and 75 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: sport and our relationship with sport. 76 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 3: Curious pull of the audience. 77 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: How many people here would say that they started with 78 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,119 Speaker 2: sport at a young age? 79 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 3: Raiser hand? 80 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 2: How many people in here would say they started in 81 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: sport as an adult. 82 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 3: I consider myself in the adult area. 83 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 2: You know, I played ayso soccer in Connecticut, but extent 84 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: of my athletics growing up. 85 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 3: I'm curious. 86 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 2: I would love to kick us off by hearing about 87 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 2: what your introductions to sport really looked like. 88 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 3: Molly, why don't you get me started? 89 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 6: I've played sports since I was like six, as long 90 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 6: as I can remember. 91 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 3: I played soccer, basketball, t ball. 92 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 5: Growing up. 93 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 6: I was big into team sports and I was a 94 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 6: cheerleader at one point, and then as I it became 95 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 6: an adult, I got I shifted a little bit more 96 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 6: into endurance sports, T ball, t ball. At six, I 97 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,119 Speaker 6: was a first base player, first base woman. 98 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very proud of that. 99 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 6: I quit after they took away the Tea's. 100 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 3: Tough, Sama, what about you? 101 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 4: So I didn't play really any organized sports when I 102 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 4: was younger. I was a tomboy and I lived in 103 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 4: a development where basically I just like hopped in anything 104 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 4: that all of the neighborhood kids were doing, So that 105 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 4: was pretty much my thing. I mean, as I got 106 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 4: a little bit older, I had an aunt that is 107 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 4: a horseback rider, and I started like going to these 108 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 4: like camps and stuff, and I got into riding a 109 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 4: little bit. But for the most part, running has been 110 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 4: one of these things where, you know, I have a 111 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 4: large family, and my brothers and. 112 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 5: Sisters all like played soccer. 113 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 4: Or did dance, and by the time like I came around, 114 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,119 Speaker 4: I'm one of the younger ones, they were just like, 115 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 4: we don't have any money. 116 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 5: For any of these activities. 117 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 4: So you know, just like keep going and running is 118 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 4: like really straightforward. You know, you don't need a lot 119 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 4: of equipment, you can do it on your own or 120 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 4: with a group. And as I got older, you know, 121 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 4: I found other people that you know, did like summer 122 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 4: track and that sort of thing. 123 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 5: So that was kind of my entree into running. 124 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 4: And my dad used to like run sometimes as part 125 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 4: of his like workout regimen, and I. 126 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 5: Would go with him. But that that's pretty much it. 127 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: This begs the question, how many of you think that 128 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 2: we have over complicated running? Like you just said, all 129 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 2: we need is like a pair of sneekers in the 130 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: will to get out there. Yet for some reason, it 131 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: is so easy to make so many excuses as to 132 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: why we just can't run. Lindsay, talk to me about 133 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 2: your experience with sport growing up. 134 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I grew up as a professional dancer from 135 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: the time well I started as a dancer turned into 136 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 1: a professional dancer, so I started dancing when I was three. 137 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: I also was like a true leader growing up. I 138 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: was the captain, which was a great precursor to me 139 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: being a fitness instructor in New York City. I think, like, 140 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: hi girl, I had like a brief stint in track 141 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: when I was in high school, but because of my 142 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: dance background, I would do hurdles and grange dete over 143 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: them and be like the last one, but did it 144 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: very eloquently, So that didn't last. So I was a 145 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: professional dancer, and then about ten years ago is when 146 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: I really started taking running and sports seriously. 147 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: It's interesting, right also, because when you're young and you 148 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: are participating in sports, so much of it is just 149 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: fun and games and socializing. So my next question for 150 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: all of you is do you remember when you realize 151 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: that sport had this like competitive aspect, like when you 152 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: felt like it was bigger than just having fun out there. 153 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: I'll go first speaking from a dance perspective, like I 154 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: was taught from a very early age that dance was 155 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: very competitive, Like I was a competition dancer, so there 156 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: was always like a very competitive, very strict edge to 157 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: everything that I did. 158 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 4: That for me personally, I think, because like I was saying, 159 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 4: I was a tomboy when I was younger, it felt 160 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 4: competitive from the beginning. So that was like, you know, 161 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 4: it's always fun to win things. That was kind of 162 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 4: my attitude, and I think that's kind of the beauty 163 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 4: of my connection with sport over the years, is that 164 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 4: I feel like, especially with women and girls, you kind 165 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 4: of start to shrink yourself as you age in a 166 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 4: lot of different areas in your life. 167 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 5: And I feel so lucky that I've. 168 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 4: Been able to hang on to like having that light 169 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 4: and taking up space and wanting to compete with other people, 170 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 4: whether it was men or women, and so that started 171 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 4: at a pretty young age. But I think also there 172 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 4: was a big fun aspect. It wasn't all just the 173 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 4: competition piece. 174 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was the same way. 175 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 6: I was so serious when I was a kid, Like 176 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 6: you're playing basketball and you're twelve, Like, it's not that serious, 177 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 6: But there was always I was a very competitive I 178 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 6: am a very competitive person. So I feel like that 179 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 6: through line was always there. And actually in my adult life, 180 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 6: I don't race as much anymore, just because I want 181 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 6: to preserve the fun and I know myself well enough 182 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 6: to know, like when the training stops being fun for me, 183 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 6: I don't want to lose that, so I try to 184 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 6: maintain that within sport. 185 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: I think so many of us also as adults, lean 186 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 2: into sport as an outlet to de stress or again, 187 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 2: as the panel that just happened for with Ali, the 188 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: woman we're talking about, how they lean into sport to 189 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 2: get through hard stuff, like to get through breakups, to 190 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 2: get through tough stuff at the office. So for adults especially, 191 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 2: I mean, yes, we can be as competitive, but I 192 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: almost feel as if it's so critical that we adopt 193 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 2: that approach that you have as well. I love what 194 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: Samia said about learning from a young age to take 195 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: up space. What a valuable lesson that's sport has taught you. 196 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 2: What other lessons would you say that participating in sport 197 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: from a young age has given you, even through now 198 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 2: to your adultness. 199 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 3: I feel like it's endless. 200 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 6: I mean, especially because I played team sports, understanding how 201 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 6: to work as a team, I feel that every day 202 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 6: in my career, so you know, things that go so 203 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 6: far beyond the run or the game or whatever it is, 204 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 6: it transfers into your everyday life. On the other things 205 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 6: I felt like I took away from that was just 206 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 6: the belief in yourself. You accomplish these things that you know, 207 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 6: maybe you didn't think were possible, but you do them. 208 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 6: And so I carry that with me throughout all areas 209 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 6: of my life as well, just to. 210 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 4: Kind of piggyback off of that. That's a really big one, 211 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 4: is the belief in yourself. I came from. I grew 212 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 4: up in the suburbs. I'm from Northern Virginia of Washington, 213 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 4: d C. And a lot of times I would be 214 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 4: like the only person of color in my whole grade. 215 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 4: And I think that it was very you know, like 216 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 4: my my family, we all have like really strong personalities 217 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 4: and they always instilled a lot of like self confidence 218 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 4: and independence in myself and my sisters. But I think 219 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 4: that it was really really cool to kind of have 220 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 4: this journey where I carved out space for myself and 221 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 4: I did something that I enjoyed, and as I got 222 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 4: older and you know, awkward in high school, I really 223 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 4: really saw my body as something that you know, was 224 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 4: just like strong and formidable and something to take care 225 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 4: of and to be valued, and that it was very 226 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 4: clear that it carved out this really nice space for 227 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 4: me at a young age that it was outside of 228 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 4: anybody else's gaze, right, because I think that that's another 229 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 4: like weird thing as you're as you're as you're getting older, 230 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 4: and so I think it just like gave me this 231 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 4: really nice base of strength and perseverance, and it bleeds 232 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 4: into everything that you do, you know, and also allows 233 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 4: you to think pretty like critically about your focuses and 234 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 4: start to think about the things that are really important 235 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 4: to you if you have goals and running, which I 236 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 4: did because I ran in high school and then I 237 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 4: ran at American University on full scholarship, and then I 238 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 4: ran as a professional sponsored by Reebach for about seven years. 239 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 4: And it teaches you that you can do so many things. 240 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 4: You can do whatever you want, but maybe not all 241 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 4: at the same time. And so you know, everybody has 242 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 4: like different seasons in their life, and running definitely taught 243 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 4: me that, you you know, if there's something that you 244 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 4: care about or that you have a goal that you 245 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 4: want to achieve, you just have to carve out space 246 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 4: and stay focused and patient and consistent and really nurture 247 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 4: everything to kind of like push that thing forward, you know, 248 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 4: for success. 249 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 2: So did you think when you were a young girl 250 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 2: that you would make some sort of brief career out 251 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 2: of sport. 252 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 4: No, So, I, like I said, it was fun and 253 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 4: I could beat all the boys in sixth grade in 254 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 4: the mile, right, So that was awesome. And you know, 255 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 4: as I got older, it didn't occur to me until 256 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 4: like my junior or senior year in high school that 257 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 4: running was even like I never really connected the people 258 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 4: I saw at the Olympics with like a full career 259 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 4: as an as a runner, right, And I think that 260 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 4: it wasn't until I started to get recruited for school 261 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 4: where I, you know, became very aware of this other 262 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 4: world that I could do that for a living. And 263 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 4: it was really really exciting. 264 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 3: Lindsay talked to me. 265 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, jeez, dance taught me. First of all, 266 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: it made me strong, right, It made me learn, It 267 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: helped me become strong in my own body and to 268 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: understand the power of that also dance, And I mean 269 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: I was like a theater nerd growing up, but it 270 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: taught me so much about persistence and being resilient. It 271 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: gave me so much responsibility, and I think as I 272 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: got older, I mean there were also good things and 273 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: bad things about growing up in dance because there was 274 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: a lot of negative body image issues that I had 275 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: to deal with. I really took like my weight was 276 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: my worth, and I have been told to lose. 277 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 3: Weight, like by dance teachers. 278 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: I've been cast and like national tours and been told yeah, 279 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: but you need to be ten pounds thinner. 280 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 3: So that was like. 281 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: A really negative part of dance that since I have 282 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: turned in sort of being in running and fitness, it's 283 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: like really changed the way I look at because it's 284 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: like that was such a negative of space to be in. 285 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: But with fitness now it's all about like how I feel. 286 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: Why I run is because I want to feel good, 287 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: not about how I look. So I guess I don't 288 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: know that it sounds negative, but there was a dance 289 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: growing up as a professional dancer was just really hard. 290 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: It was really strict. So I take good and bad 291 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: things from that. 292 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: I guess I think you all three of you touched on, 293 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: you know, our relationship with our bodies from the time 294 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 2: that we're young until now. And what I will say 295 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: is that coming to terms with the idea that I 296 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 2: am an athlete, because I think that's something that we 297 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 2: all experience, certainly gave me a new appreciation for my body. 298 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: A little bit about my backstory. I lost seventy pounds 299 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 2: in college and really struggled and still struggle with body 300 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 2: acceptance and understanding that yes, you can appreciate your body, 301 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 2: but it's the whole dialogue that's happening internally that makes 302 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 2: you really appreciate your body. 303 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 3: And so I would love to kind of wrap on that. 304 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: I guess for a minute of when maybe there was 305 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: a time for you that you really started to appreciate 306 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 2: your body, not just as an athlete, but now these 307 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: days as a woman. 308 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 3: And I mean, I'll kick us off. 309 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: I had a really bad bout of negative self talk 310 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: about a year and a half ago, and I was 311 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: actually on a work trip in Spain, and I remember 312 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: running up these huge mountains, things that I could have 313 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: never done years ago, but the whole time, instead of 314 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: enjoying that experience, I remember the negative dialogue. 315 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 3: I remember what I was saying to myself. 316 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: And I got home from that trip and I literally 317 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,239 Speaker 2: sat myself down and I was like, you are powerful, 318 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: you are strong, and you need to take some time 319 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: to reshape this and appreciate what you're capable of. And 320 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: so I mean that was my experience with the appreciation 321 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: of not just my body, but of what I can 322 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 2: do with sports. So I'd love for you all the 323 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: kind of touch on that and talk to me about 324 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: maybe lindsay, even just when did you get to the 325 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: point And I'm assuming maybe it was with running after 326 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 2: dance that you were just like, Wow, how beautiful is 327 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: it that I can do this. 328 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. 329 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: So the about five years ago, I tore my acl 330 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: and it was like if you know, if you know, 331 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: it's the worst injury, right, And it was one of 332 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: the hardest times of my life. It was like I 333 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: became so depressed, I was so I felt fat, I 334 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 1: felt sad, and I just felt like useless and I 335 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: felt like it's a really long recovery. So for eight months, 336 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: I was like I'm never gonna be able to walk again, 337 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: and like I miss being able to move and jump 338 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: and like dance and feel strong in my body. So, 339 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: oh my god. I remember the when I was finally cleared, 340 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: which felt like literally years to jog on a treadmill. 341 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: I just sabbed because I was just like, I'm jogging 342 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: at like a four to ozho. But it made me 343 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: realize and like I really did not realize this until 344 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: this happened to me, that like movement and your ability, 345 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: your body's ability to move is such a gift and 346 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: it could be taken away from you at any second, 347 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 1: And that injury was horrible, but it was also like 348 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: the best thing that ever happened to me, because I 349 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: there is not a day that goes by whether I'm 350 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: teaching or I'm running that I'm just I can only 351 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: be grateful for the body I have. And it also 352 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 1: flipped the script on I don't care how I look. 353 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: I care that I can move, and like losing weight 354 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: or whatever your fitness goals are, that's going to come 355 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,719 Speaker 1: with that. But if you start with the reason why, 356 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: like the looking good or like having a nice butt, 357 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: like that is such a bonus to like the gift 358 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: that movement brings. 359 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 3: Me personally, no one can take away or why. Yeah. 360 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 4: Ever, one thing I would add is that I like 361 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 4: I told you guys that I felt really strong as 362 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,959 Speaker 4: I was like going through my teenage years and you know, 363 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 4: getting into to adulthood because of running. I know for 364 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 4: sure that like that's a thing in the running community. 365 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 4: I always felt extremely lucky to go to a school 366 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 4: that we had just started our like Division one status, 367 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 4: and so the folks on the team, it was a 368 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 4: really small team at AU. They came in all shapes 369 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 4: and sizes and there was all different ability levels. They 370 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 4: weren't necessarily recruited right the team that I joined at American, 371 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 4: And as a result, I had a wonderful college experience 372 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 4: when I talked to a lot of my colleagues who 373 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 4: were other professional athletes, and they talked to me about college. 374 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 5: There were so many. 375 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 4: Stories about like crazy coaches that would like have this 376 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 4: culture of girls like weighing themselves and pitting people against 377 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 4: each other. I mean, I have a good friend that 378 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 4: went to Wake Forest and she said that her coach 379 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 4: didn't want eating disorders to spread, and so she like 380 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 4: broke the team up into eaters and non eaters, and 381 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 4: she like didn't want the healthy girls to hang out 382 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 4: too much with the girls that weren't eating. 383 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 5: It was like a whole thing. 384 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 4: And I that was like bizarre, Like I never I 385 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,479 Speaker 4: you know, I never experienced that in college. So for that, 386 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 4: I'm really thankful. But I will say that when I 387 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 4: became a professional athlete, one of the things that really 388 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 4: disturbed me was that I would go places in like 389 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 4: plain clothes or be somewhere with my mom and her 390 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 4: friends would be like, oh my gosh, like you look great, 391 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 4: like you're so skinny. Do you eat few things? So 392 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 4: first off, like I don't, you know, it bothered me 393 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 4: a lot. You know, I'm an African American woman, and 394 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 4: in my community, it's almost the opposite, Like if you're skinny, 395 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 4: people are worried about you. You know, They're like, are 396 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 4: you okay? Are you eating? You know, are you resting? 397 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 4: You know, that's like a cultural thing, and so I 398 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 4: don't know how that got so tightly linked for some 399 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 4: people with like beauty and acceptance. And the other thing 400 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 4: was that I was training for a marathon during those times, 401 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 4: and I was running like one hundred eighty five miles 402 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 4: a week, right, and I was eating at a voracious appetite. 403 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 4: I was eating everything that like anybody left out, you know, 404 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 4: arently you know, eating other people's leftovers and my refrigerator. 405 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 5: And it was very bizarre to me that like people. 406 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 4: Didn't make this connection between like strength and taking care 407 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 4: of yourself, and that they would look at somebody who 408 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 4: was really tiny and really live and not understand that 409 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 4: this person has a lifestyle dedicated to this thing. Like 410 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 4: I look that way kind of as a function of 411 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 4: what I was doing and not because I was trying 412 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 4: to like fit into this jumpsuit or those genes. And 413 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 4: so that I got a lot of comments like that 414 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 4: from other women, and I would always talk to them 415 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 4: and say like, well, like I want you to know that, 416 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 4: you know, I spend hours in pilates classes and doing 417 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 4: workouts and doing eighteen mile long runs. You know, why 418 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 4: on earth would you ever compare yourself to me unless 419 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 4: like you're endeavoring to do the same kind of thing. 420 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 5: It was very disturbing. 421 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 4: So I think that like people, you know, it's really 422 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 4: good that we're having these kinds of conversations because I 423 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 4: think that it's so important that people look at their 424 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 4: body as something very different than like what we get 425 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 4: from like magazines and television on a consistent basis. 426 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: Two quick things and then I'd love to hear from Molly. 427 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 2: First off, the jumpsuit is fire. Secondly, I sat down 428 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 2: with Robin Arzon from Peloton for the show and she 429 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 2: said something that I thought was really valuable is that 430 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 2: so many people look at her and they say, how 431 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: can I get your ABS? And she says, I spend 432 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 2: six hours a day doing fitness. I don't want you 433 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 2: to have my ABS unless you were also doing six 434 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 2: hours a day doing fitness. And so often we look 435 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 2: at someone who might have something that we want or 436 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 2: we think that we want, but then you have to 437 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 2: ask yourself, like is it a function of my life? 438 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 2: To have that thing and if it's not, that's okay. 439 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 2: It's okay, Mollie. 440 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally identify with all that. 441 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 6: I always say, if I wanted to look a different way, 442 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 6: I would train a different way. 443 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 3: But I trained by what I love to do. 444 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 6: I love to run, I love to ride my bike, 445 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 6: and so my body is just a result of that. 446 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 6: By doing those things, I've found so much pride and 447 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 6: self confidence in my body. It became something more than 448 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 6: just what it looks like. My body is what it 449 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 6: can do and what I can do. But similarly to you, Lynn, 450 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 6: I broke my ankle when I was sixteen years old, like. 451 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 3: A horrible break. 452 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 6: I had a double for exture dislocation, and doctors told 453 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 6: me I would never run again, I would never do 454 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 6: much of anything. 455 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 3: And I was just a kid. So my mom was like, 456 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 3: screw that. 457 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 6: I was told it couldn't curse, so I just had 458 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 6: to make sure I didn't and like we got a 459 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 6: second opinion, and she was like, you're sixteen years old, Like, 460 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 6: go be a kid. If you have to deal with 461 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 6: it when you're forty, then we'll figure that out when 462 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 6: you're forty. And so I went back to playing soccer, 463 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 6: and I've since run mile races to half marathon races. 464 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 6: I work at Runners World, and I started riding my 465 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 6: bike as a way to cross train because it's easier 466 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 6: on your joints. And I have then, you know, ridden 467 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 6: a bike and all the most beautiful places in the world. 468 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 6: It's taken me on adventures I could have never dreamed of. 469 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 6: And you know, I get to work in cycling as well. 470 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 3: And so. 471 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 6: The injury for me has changed my entire perspective on 472 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 6: everything that my body can do. 473 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 3: I'm so grateful to just be able to like walk every. 474 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 6: Day times same literally same, and I want to wish 475 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 6: it upon anyone. I don't want anybody to have to 476 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 6: go through like a horrible injury to like develop that 477 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 6: perspective or that gratitude. 478 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 3: But it's completely changed my life. 479 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 6: Like I'm just so glad that I can do anything 480 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 6: that I'm able to do because of that. 481 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 3: To me, I has injury ever really stricken you? Obviously. 482 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: Lindsay and Molly talked about their experiences I had. 483 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 4: I had like a bad training stint because we had 484 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 4: a really rough winter in Virginia and our team didn't 485 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 4: like go away somewhere else to train over like the 486 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 4: winter months, and so there was like snow and ice 487 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 4: and it kept like melting and refreezing, and I was 488 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 4: running doing like some of my like long runs on 489 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 4: that and I had like a like a weird thing 490 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 4: with my hip that had to get a lot of 491 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 4: like treatment. But otherwise I haven't really I can't say 492 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 4: that I was like ever hindered by a lot of injury. 493 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 4: My coach at the time was big on like soft 494 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 4: surface running, and so a lot of times, especially for 495 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 4: longer races, if I had like two runs in a day, 496 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 4: I would do my shorter runs on like like through 497 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 4: the neighborhood on the asphalt. But almost everything else, even 498 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 4: my tempos, was done on like a dirt path or 499 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 4: a gravel path. 500 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 3: Interesting. 501 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 2: I'm curious to know from all of you if you 502 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 2: have a specific time, either growing up as an athlete 503 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 2: or now as an athlete, that you reflect on as 504 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 2: one of your most proud moments in your sports. 505 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 3: I'll kick us off. You're welcome. 506 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 2: These days, I'm a runner, it's still like every time 507 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 2: I say it, it still never feels real, which is 508 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 2: just ridiculous because I probably run five or six days 509 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: a week. 510 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 3: I'm sure a lot of you can relate. 511 00:26:53,480 --> 00:27:00,120 Speaker 2: I last year trained my butt off for Chicago, and 512 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 2: I went into it after a summer for the first 513 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 2: time of what I would like to call for me 514 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 2: running fast. I was running faster than I ever had 515 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 2: before because I was training for short distance races, which 516 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 2: was so fun as someone who considers themselves a long 517 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 2: distance person. And so I went out there and I 518 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 2: ran fast, and I tried a different couple of mile 519 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 2: races and they were a whole lot of fun. And 520 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 2: so I showed up for Chicago and ran a BQ. 521 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: And that was something that Emily in college, who struggled 522 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 2: with her weight and body acceptance and all of these 523 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 2: things like it was never in my vocabulary. 524 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 3: It was never something I even dreamed of. 525 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 2: So to do that for me and kind of let 526 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 2: go of this version of myself, this self limiting version 527 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 2: of myself, was so empowering. So I'd love to know 528 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 2: from you guys, when has sport truly empowered you to 529 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 2: be your best self. 530 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,959 Speaker 1: The first marathon I ran was the New York City Marathon, 531 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: and the end I was like, Okay, this was obviously 532 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 1: the most incredible experience of my life, but I think 533 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: I want to do it again just so I can 534 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: do it just a little bit better. So even if 535 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: it's just like my confidence, or if it's just like. 536 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 3: A minute faster. 537 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: And this earlier before the second New York City Marathon, 538 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: I ran I started reading Dina Caster's book let Your 539 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: Mind Run, which if you haven't read it, it's such 540 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: an incredible book and it really talks all about like 541 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: what are you saying to yourself? 542 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 5: What? 543 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: And you could take that in life or when you're running. 544 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: And it was like an exercise like go out on 545 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: a run and just like listen to what you're saying 546 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: to yourself. And I could not believe like the excuses 547 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: that I would come up with, the negative comments I 548 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: would like say to myself like oh, like I would 549 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: look at my watch and instantly like sabotage myself on 550 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: my run. So it started out small, and it started 551 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: out with like a couple miles of me just like 552 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: like I feel like a psycho, but like on a 553 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: loop just being like yes you can, Yes you can, 554 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: Yes you can, you can do it. And like saying 555 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: these words over and over had such a great impact 556 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: on me. So when the second marathon I ran. I 557 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: ran a forty one minute PR and I honest yeah, 558 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: like it was it was almost like and I know 559 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: you guys have probably had these runds before, you know, 560 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: when like everything is just flowing and you just feel 561 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: like someone's like carrying you forward, like and like you 562 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: wished for those moments and for it to haven't at 563 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: the marathon was just like I was so grateful and 564 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: it was just it was the PR was my body 565 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: could have done it always, but it was in my mind. 566 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 3: So that was like such a huge accomplishment for me. 567 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 2: Isn't it so powerful when you realize that you did that, 568 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: Like you did that, you showed up and you put 569 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 2: in the work and that happened because you showed up 570 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 2: for you and that's just really empowered. 571 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,719 Speaker 1: It's well, it's like I never thought I could run 572 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: a marathon. I never thought I could run a half marathon. 573 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: I never thought I could run a ten k, And 574 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: it's like you do these things and you're like, who 575 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: is this girl? Like I look that and I'm like 576 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: I knew she was always there. But like it's so 577 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: cool because you're always becoming and to see like you 578 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: your self evolved This. 579 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 3: Is so awesome. What a rock star. So thanks sm Molly. 580 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 3: What about you? 581 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 6: Last year, I did what's called a prestige bike race. 582 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's hard to call it a race. 583 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 3: It's a timed event. 584 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 6: But uh, it's not like a it's not like a 585 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 6: sanctioned by grace. 586 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 3: It was out in Boulder, Colorado. 587 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,719 Speaker 6: I had ridden there a couple of times prior to that, 588 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 6: and I'm garbage at altitude, like truly just no oxygen 589 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 6: to be had, and so I've ridden out there before, 590 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 6: but I could only make it like twenty miles and 591 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 6: then I'm You're out. Like it's very hard coming from 592 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 6: New York City. So this Prestige was I think it 593 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 6: was ninety miles over ten thousand feet of climbing, so 594 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 6: it's just it's a bear. I had a lot of 595 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 6: anxiety going out to it. You do it in teams 596 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 6: of four, and this event was all women, which was 597 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 6: really special and awesome. I did it with my one 598 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 6: girlfriend from New York and two women from la We 599 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 6: were the sea level team because everybody else was local, 600 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 6: and we were like, this is gonna be so difficult 601 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 6: for us, but you just roll out and you take 602 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 6: it one climb at a time, and during the biggest 603 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 6: climb of the day, you get to the top of 604 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 6: the mountain and you'd like look out into the most 605 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 6: beautiful vista you can ever imagine, and I just I 606 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 6: was just sobbing, and. 607 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 3: My friend's like, are you okay, are you hurt? 608 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 5: Like what's wrong? 609 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 6: And I was just I was just so proud, Like 610 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 6: I set my mind to doing this thing. I was 611 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 6: going through like a lot of stuff in my personal life, 612 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 6: and I went out there with like a few of 613 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 6: my closest girlfriends and we just did it together. And 614 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 6: finishing that day was just such a huge moment of 615 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 6: pride for me. And you just feel so accomplished. And 616 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 6: it's exactly what you say, You just show up for yourself. 617 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 6: Nobody else did it for you. You know, there's a 618 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 6: ton of people that help you get there, and a 619 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 6: ton of things in your mind that helped you get there, 620 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 6: but at the end of the day, it's just you. 621 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 3: So I think that was really powerful for me. 622 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 5: I think. 623 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 4: Probably the most like kind of limiting thought that I 624 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 4: had was maybe earlier on in my running career when 625 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 4: I was in college and my coach was trying to 626 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 4: get me to transition to longer distances in high school, 627 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 4: every anybody that's running college kind of goes through this anyway, 628 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 4: where you think you're like so fast at something shorter 629 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 4: than you really are, and you end up being like 630 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 4: encouraged to move up, and that's kind of like where 631 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 4: you shine. So for in high school, I think I 632 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 4: ran like mile two miles, so I was always on 633 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 4: the longer end of the spectrum. And basically I made 634 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 4: a move from doing like cross country and five k 635 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 4: on the track to the ten k. And I really 636 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 4: fought my coach forever about this. I mean I was like, 637 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 4: people go get hot dogs during the ten k? I mean, 638 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 4: how many laughs is it? Like what is the point? 639 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 4: Like it's so boring, like what are we even doing? 640 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 4: So I ran it twice in college, and the second time, no, 641 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 4: I ran it three times in college. And the third 642 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 4: time is when I became one of the first female 643 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 4: All Americans at American University. And so I was like, 644 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 4: well that went pretty good at NCAA's and so I 645 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 4: think I'm okay with this like really long. You know, 646 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 4: it's still kind of boring, but I'm okay with it. 647 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 4: And so that really helped shape the rest of my 648 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 4: career and get into a lot of road running and 649 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 4: stuff after that. I would say that, you know, my 650 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 4: proudest moment was when I was in this weird transitional 651 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 4: period between college and running professionally. I was like a 652 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 4: fifth year, like first year master's degree student in psychology 653 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 4: at AU and I wasn't really sure what was going 654 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 4: to come next. I really wanted to run full time, 655 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 4: and I basically on like Father's Day in June, I 656 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 4: ran this five k because I was living at home, 657 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 4: I didn't really have any money, and my dad was 658 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 4: always so proud of every like running achievement I ever had. 659 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 4: So we did this five k race together and I 660 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 4: want it and I want a new pair of shoes, 661 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 4: and I gave them these shoes. And that's when I 662 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 4: met my professional what would become my professional coach, and 663 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 4: eventually got this sponsorship with Reebok. But it was it 664 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 4: went from something that made me feel really like sad 665 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 4: and kind of like, you know, a loser. 666 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 5: A lot of my friends were going off. 667 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 4: To like start their careers and getting married and having kids, 668 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 4: all kinds of stuff, and I was really proud of 669 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 4: myself for kind of you know, holding on tight to 670 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 4: my own goals and dreams, because something that seemed very 671 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 4: like attractive and kind of what everybody else was doing 672 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 4: at the next stage of their life ended up being 673 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 4: like the best adventure of a lifetime. You know, running 674 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 4: is giving me everything, traveled around the world, meant wonderful people, 675 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 4: and learned a lot about myself. And so yeah, I 676 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 4: think that was probably like the beginning of, you know, 677 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 4: a very proud moment for me. 678 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 3: I love that. So we talked proud moments. 679 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 2: But what I think is important also to touch upon 680 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 2: might be some of those more difficult times injuries aside. 681 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 2: I know we've wrapped on that a little bit, but 682 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 2: if you can reflect on a certain moment growing up 683 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 2: in sport that taught you a really important lesson for me, I, 684 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 2: as everyone does freshman year. Everyone's a lot on the 685 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 2: freshman volleyball team in high school, but not the JV 686 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 2: volleyball team fun back. So I came back personally my 687 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 2: sophomore year, not really considering myself an athlete, and I 688 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 2: had worked so hard over that summer to try to 689 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 2: run a mile in under ten minutes, and I was 690 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 2: running all the time and was running all the time. 691 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 3: And then it came the day that I had to 692 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 3: run the mile and I. 693 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 2: Couldn't do it in under ten minutes and I didn't 694 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 2: make the JV volleyball team. 695 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 3: And it's funny because. 696 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 2: I look back on that time now because that experience 697 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 2: actually deterred me from sport for a while. I felt 698 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 2: like I wasn't good enough, and how horrible is that 699 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 2: that that's how we talk to young woman. 700 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 3: You're not good enough. 701 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 2: You can't be on this team because you can't do 702 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 2: this little itty bitty thing. 703 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 3: I was great at serving the ball, just FYI. 704 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 2: So that was a moment that really, I mean sadly 705 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 2: at the time to turn me from sport. But I 706 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 2: look back on it now almost with like affection because 707 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, well, take them be cute. So anything tough 708 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 2: that you guys went through as young athletes, that has 709 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 2: framed who you are today. 710 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: Just again and being a professional dancer and like on 711 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: when I was I was eighteen when I did my 712 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: first national tour. I did the Broadway show Grease and 713 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: I literally left college for it, Like I left and 714 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 1: was on like a bus. 715 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 5: The next day. 716 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: I was like I don't even know what I'm doing, 717 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: Like it was wild and even you know, growing up 718 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 1: and dance, weight was a big issue, but we were 719 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 1: being weighed weekly by a male stage manager on Greece 720 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: and like now, now me, I would be like absolutely 721 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,480 Speaker 1: not like no way. But at the time, you're just 722 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 1: like this is normal and you're standing in line with 723 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 1: girls and now that girl is skinnier than you, and 724 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: like it was so damaging. So like the relationship that 725 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: and I've like truly I've never been skinny or larger, 726 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: like I just I feel like I'm a very just 727 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: average looking woman. But my relationship with like the way 728 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 1: that I looked and the way that other people looked 729 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: at it felt like almost competitive, like these girls will 730 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 1: get the best jobs or the best shows because of 731 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: how their body looks. So it was really like it 732 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 1: was really hard for me and it took some time 733 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: to overcome. 734 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 3: And again it was my. 735 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 1: Injury that really taught me to care less about how 736 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,240 Speaker 1: I looked and more about how I feel. 737 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 3: But that was it was rough. 738 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 2: I think your stellar thanks and non average any tough 739 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 2: moments for the two of you to reflect on. 740 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 3: I mean, I talked about my injury. 741 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 6: It certainly changed the trajectory of my life. So that 742 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 6: that was probably the hardest thing I've ever gone through. 743 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 6: And it's something when you have chronic arth, write is, 744 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 6: it's something you it just never goes away. So when 745 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 6: I got the job at Runners World, it's hard for 746 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 6: me to I feel so proud that I could represent 747 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 6: a different voice. 748 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:54,280 Speaker 3: At Runners World. 749 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 6: I didn't grow up running track and field or that 750 00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:59,280 Speaker 6: just wasn't my background. 751 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 3: My background was fit. 752 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 6: So I'm all about sexy pace. That's the pace I run. 753 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 6: It's not slow, it's sexy. You look good running it. 754 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 2: Molly, talk to me, like, give some more definition to 755 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,439 Speaker 2: sexy yea, yeah, yeah, I use sexy pace so much. 756 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 3: And people are like, what does that mean. 757 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 6: It's at runners Leve will go for lunch runs and 758 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 6: you want to, you know, tell people what pace you're running, 759 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 6: and we just don't ever want to. 760 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 3: Call anything slow. 761 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 6: It's it's negative, it's it just has a negative connotation, 762 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,760 Speaker 6: and so we started calling them sexy pace runs. 763 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 3: And you just look good doing it. I mean, nobody 764 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:37,280 Speaker 3: looks good. 765 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 6: Sprinting to a finish line, like you're like drooling at 766 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 6: your mouth. That's not sexy pace. That's like your fast 767 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 6: sprint pace, that's your mile pace. So I'm a big 768 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 6: believer in sexy pace runs. And for me, like it 769 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 6: the injury. As I became an adult, I had to 770 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 6: learn how to like own this part of me and 771 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 6: and know that that's valuable too, and that it's okay 772 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 6: that my badackground isn't a certain thing and actually it's 773 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 6: a positive aspect. I can bring a different perspective to things, 774 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 6: I can bring a different voice to things. 775 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 3: So I feel like that's. 776 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 6: Been a journey that I've I've been on, I'm still on, 777 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 6: and but it's it's been really good for me. 778 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 4: I think that I touched on, you know, the most 779 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 4: difficult sort of thing earlier, which is just creating a 780 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 4: life in a space and a career and something that 781 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 4: like wasn't really a thing. You don't get like drafted 782 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 4: to be a professional runner. It's not like you're like 783 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:41,320 Speaker 4: on television like an NBA player, like waiting for somebody 784 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 4: to like pick you for a team and then you 785 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 4: go off and like I don't know what they do, 786 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 4: like right out of the stadium in a Lamborghini. 787 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 5: That's not what it was with running. 788 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 4: And you definitely you know everything that you do because 789 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 4: running is kind of an individual sport. You know, there's 790 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 4: aspects of a team sport and cross country, but you 791 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 4: know it's it's on you, right, and so that's a 792 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 4: good thing and a bad thing. The best part is 793 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 4: that you know you can give yourself credit, you know, 794 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 4: for persevering. And I ran in as a professional for 795 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 4: seven years and I had a really like awesome career 796 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 4: that I'm very proud of, and I think that you know, 797 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,879 Speaker 4: it's a it's a non traditional way to go. 798 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 3: Like I said, there was a lot of. 799 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 4: Things happening around me with my peers and people that 800 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 4: ran with me on my college team, and it takes 801 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 4: a lot of courage to do something that's not like, okay, 802 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 4: step one in life is like this, and then you 803 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,879 Speaker 4: know step two is that, and you know a lot 804 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 4: of things. I got married, you know later in life. 805 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 4: You know, I don't have any children to this day. 806 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 4: Like a lot of things that people don't always like 807 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 4: talk about, right, I talked about it all the time 808 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 4: I'm with my colleagues. But again it comes down to 809 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 4: you know, thinking about what it is that you really want, 810 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 4: you know, like what really lights you up right, and 811 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 4: trying your best to like create a life for yourself 812 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:20,800 Speaker 4: that kind of falls around that instead of doing what's 813 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 4: always expected of you. 814 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 2: So definitely, so right now, if this room was full 815 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 2: of young girls, young women, young athletes that you were 816 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 2: just like at one point, if this room was full 817 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 2: of young women and they were looking to you for 818 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,919 Speaker 2: some sort of advice on you know, should I keep 819 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:43,919 Speaker 2: with this sport thing? 820 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 3: What should I do? What shouldn't I do? What piece 821 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:53,359 Speaker 3: of advice would you offer these young girls? 822 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 6: I would just I mean, if I'm thinking about my 823 00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 6: younger self, I would just say to believe in yourself. 824 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,919 Speaker 6: I mean, the self limiting thoughts and some of those insecurities. 825 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 6: I think that's just a part of being human and 826 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 6: not necessarily a part of being a female. But unfortunately 827 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 6: for females, you know, there's like systemic problems that emphasize 828 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 6: that for us, and some of the things that you 829 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 6: mentioned and the struggles that we've all had are the 830 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 6: system failing us and not necessarily us self limiting because 831 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,320 Speaker 6: of our gender. And so I would want young women 832 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 6: out there to know that they can do whatever they 833 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,959 Speaker 6: put their minds to, and that you know we're all 834 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 6: I hope we're all working as hard as we can 835 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 6: to change that for them and to change the root 836 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 6: of the problems and to help them see their potential 837 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 6: and so that they can fulfill it. 838 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 1: Jeez, I would say, I would say, stop comparing yourself 839 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,319 Speaker 1: to the person to the right and left of you, 840 00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: because it's so easy to do. And the more you 841 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,760 Speaker 1: can yourself, the more you're taking away all the gifts 842 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:04,919 Speaker 1: that you have to bring. 843 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 3: You know. 844 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,799 Speaker 1: I used to think it was like me against this girl, 845 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,360 Speaker 1: me against that girl. And the second I realized like, no, 846 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: we can all do this together, and we can all 847 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: rise higher and vibrate higher together, Like that really changed 848 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 1: everything for me. 849 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,320 Speaker 3: And I think it's so important that women. 850 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 1: Encourage and respect and lift up other women, and that 851 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,400 Speaker 1: should start from a young age. 852 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 3: Doesn't have to start when you're older. It can start 853 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:30,840 Speaker 3: as kids, you know. 854 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 4: And I think to piggyback off of that, I think 855 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 4: that you know, you can lift other people up if 856 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,240 Speaker 4: you are happy, if you feel lifted, you know, generally, 857 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 4: And I'm not one of those people that thinks like 858 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,319 Speaker 4: happiness is like a destination, like check happy. Now I 859 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 4: can just like chill I think, you know, life is hard, 860 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 4: there's lots of struggles. You should try really hard to 861 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:59,360 Speaker 4: find joy. But to that end, I think, especially for women, 862 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 4: we do many things for other people, whether it's like 863 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 4: the comparison thing or like I said, I'm not a mom, 864 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,319 Speaker 4: but I have a lot of friends and family who 865 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,320 Speaker 4: are you know, just like doing stuff for your family 866 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 4: or your spouse or whatever, or for other people's approval. 867 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 4: And I think that you know, people forget that, you know, 868 00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 4: it's okay to like think about your life in terms 869 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,879 Speaker 4: of like what it is that's truly going to make 870 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 4: you happy, you know, in the race of like trying 871 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 4: to make sure that you can take care of yourself 872 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,399 Speaker 4: and have like food and shelter and do the fun 873 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 4: things that you want to do, make sure that like 874 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 4: that's always at the core of whatever it is. And 875 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 4: you know, I feel like you'll find your way if 876 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:43,880 Speaker 4: you can kind of like stick to that path. 877 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 2: And I think just one other thing that I would 878 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 2: add is that it's okay if things don't go as 879 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 2: you had hoped. And there's so much beauty in what 880 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 2: we might commonly refer to as failure, because when those 881 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 2: things happen that's an opportunity for us all to learn 882 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 2: and then reshape that and then move forward. And oftentimes 883 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 2: when we move forward, we're better than when we started. Anyway, 884 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 2: winding down here, what does sport look like for you 885 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:14,320 Speaker 2: guys today and do you have any goals on the horizon? 886 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:19,439 Speaker 6: What does sport look like for me today? Honestly, it's 887 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 6: exactly what you were speaking to. I just try to 888 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 6: do what makes me happy. I'm running a little bit, 889 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 6: riding my. 890 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 3: Bike a little bit. 891 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 6: I do a bit of yoga and strength training, and 892 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 6: I'm just in the pursuit of balance, like physically and mentally. 893 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,359 Speaker 6: I just you know, I try to wake up every 894 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 6: day and just say, like what do I feel like 895 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 6: doing today? What's going to make me feel good? So 896 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 6: I don't have any races on the calendar, any big events. 897 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 6: I'm just really trying to enjoy it. A lot of 898 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,759 Speaker 6: what I remember from being an athlete as a kid, 899 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 6: or like the mundane things, like my dad was my 900 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,319 Speaker 6: coach and we would lose games, but we'd get in 901 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,920 Speaker 6: the car and like play music and sing together. And 902 00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,479 Speaker 6: I'm trying to as I get older, remember like those 903 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 6: are those are the big things it's not like if 904 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 6: you won the game or lost the game. It's like 905 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,400 Speaker 6: that minutia. It's like being present in those moments and 906 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 6: so on. That's really what it looks like for me today. 907 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 5: I'm not racing at all these days. I just want 908 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 5: to run forever, you know. 909 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 4: I just want to go out on a green space 910 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,359 Speaker 4: with not too many people, listen to some music, come 911 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 4: back and be like not grumpy, and have my head 912 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 4: feel like clear and sharp, and be available to you know, 913 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,880 Speaker 4: be able to pour love in every other aspect of 914 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:40,360 Speaker 4: my life. 915 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 1: So jeez, I mean, yeah, I'm running. I guess I 916 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 1: am kind of running a lot this year. I'm taking 917 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 1: a break from the New York City Marathon because my 918 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,719 Speaker 1: pr was so epic. I'm gonna let it settle, Oh 919 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 1: your subtle vermanute. But I'm going to run the Chicago 920 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 1: Marathon this year. I'm excited for that because it's I 921 00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 1: hear it's flat. 922 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 3: It's very flat. There's one hill that's very at the end. Great. 923 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 3: I'm thrilled for that. 924 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,360 Speaker 1: I'm running Seaweeds in Vancouver, which I'm like really excited 925 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 1: for because that's supposed to be like the most incredible 926 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 1: half marathon, and I just want to continue encouraging other 927 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 1: women to enjoy running and find your why behind it 928 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,840 Speaker 1: and to worry less about your splits and your pace, 929 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 1: and just like I just want us all to like 930 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 1: get out there because we love it and because it 931 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 1: makes us feel good. 932 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,880 Speaker 2: So well, I just want to take the time to 933 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,879 Speaker 2: thank the three of you for coming to sit down 934 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 2: with me. And again, if you don't subscribe to Hurdle yet, 935 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 2: please head on into the iTunes store, rate, subscribe, review, 936 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 2: and tune in on the regular. 937 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 3: Let's give it up for these ladies right here. Thank you.