1 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: These One Bills Live presented by Called Light of Health. Well, 2 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: how you doing here? It is Wednesday, Chris Brown Steve 3 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: Tasker with you for another edition of One Bills Live. 4 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: As the countdown is on for the NFL Draft, and 5 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: we continue counting down the days, it's almost getting to 6 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: a point now where it's like, can we just get 7 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: there already? I wonder how the guys in the personnel 8 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: office upstairs are doing. You know, they're going through their 9 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: mocks now, like everybody takes a team and right Brandon 10 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: puts them through the mock. Draft exercises, trades are allowed, 11 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: all that stuff, and they kind of see how the 12 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: thing would unfold, which, as we've said on this show, 13 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: is much more difficult when you're trying to predict what's 14 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: gonna still be there at pick twenty seven then if 15 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: you're picking eleventh, you know what I mean. But those 16 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: are the exercises that are taking place now upstairs in 17 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: this building where we sit, and I'm just ready to 18 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: get there already, Like, let's just get the draft night. 19 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: We've been Yemman and the amorant about this for weeks 20 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: on end, and it's just like, come onorating. So we 21 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: got all these Yeah right, So you and I sit here, 22 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: we're bantering about like we're talking about Josh Downs and 23 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: Trenton Smith and Walker Parker Washington, Jaden Reid. None of 24 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: you people out there should know who these people are. 25 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: If you know who any of these prospects are, you're 26 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: it's more than just you're more than just a fan. 27 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: Maybe you're high be or whatever. And I get that 28 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: that's fine, but you shouldn't know these guys. There's a 29 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: lot of them. And Brownie and I are bantering back 30 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: and forth about these guys, like you know, they're like 31 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: classmates in school. Yeah right, So would you picking first 32 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: on your team in the schoolyard at Recess? Right, we're 33 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: such goners, but you know you do, Like so you 34 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: go in there and just you put in there, and 35 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,399 Speaker 1: you put in Jalen Hyatt highlights and you know, sure 36 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: enough in this day and they just like presto changing. 37 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: I know that. And I'm just gonna say this. When 38 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: I used to have to get ready for the draft 39 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: in like ninety six, right, that ain't there. You had 40 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: to work to get information and getting highlight reels or anything, 41 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: forget it for. You didn't have a chance. So yeah, 42 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: I am so now you're so done with this stuff. 43 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: And you were large and back then you were largely 44 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: beholden to what the draft guides because they had seen 45 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: all those guys. Sure you didn't, and you didn't have 46 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: a means by which to at least study. You couldn't 47 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: even disagree with them. Like there's no YouTube, there's no 48 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you didn't have any 49 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, and so you really had to kind 50 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: of read up more than anything else. Now you can 51 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: use your own eyeballs, right, and make a judgment as well. 52 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: You can use your own eyeballs to decide it's not 53 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: worth the effort well, or to decide to decide if 54 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: the guy you're reading knows what the hell he's talking about, right, 55 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 1: And much more dissent nowadays because everybody's you know, everybody's 56 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: got their own opinion, and then everybody has access and 57 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: most of us are complete amateurs at it. You just 58 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: look and said, yeah, okay, I like that, and I said, well, 59 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: why didn't he do this? You know that not knowing 60 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: anything about what he's asked to do or all the 61 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: ins and outs, especially with complicated it's the most complicated 62 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: pro sport out there and you and you got it. 63 00:03:55,480 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: So your opinions may be ridiculous for reasons you have 64 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: no idea about. So, but you gotta watch right, you 65 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: gotta say, okay, what because you hear somebody say, hey, 66 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: this guy, this guy's gonna be great. He's a sleeper. Okay, 67 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: let me look at him. You're a fool. There's no 68 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: way this guy's even gonna get drafted, not even drafted. Right. So, 69 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just so Brownie and I are sitting 70 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: there today, we're in we're in the midst of its day, 71 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: and we're just like done with it. Yeah, we're not 72 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: done with it obviously, but we're also having an interesting exercise. 73 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: Not unlike Aaron Rodgers who willingly went into the dark 74 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: for four days. They're trying to fix an electrical issue 75 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: in our building, in our building, not far from our office. 76 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: And look, I'm look, I don't know the first thing 77 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: about being an electrician. It can't be always an easy 78 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: job when you're trying to troubleshoot something like that. So 79 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: I'm not poking fun. It's just in our office. Have 80 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: been going on on and off for a week for 81 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: about four days. I mean, fortunately we have desk lamps 82 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: and they must be on a different circuit because they're working, 83 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: and our tellers are working, and the power to our laptop, 84 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: the laptops are working, the desk lamps our lights. But 85 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: the lights are going off and on every five or 86 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: ten minutes, and they've been doing it for they were 87 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: off completely for like two days. It's to the point 88 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: now we're just for a joke. I feel like walking 89 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: in one day with like one of those speed lunking 90 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: lamps right head lamps on my head. I don't think 91 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: they take too kindly, right I will. Obviously this issue 92 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: with the lights goes a little deeper than they thought. 93 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: It's not just our office. It's it's it's wide spread, right, 94 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: it's and it's going to the ground's crew and everything else. 95 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: So it's a I don't want I don't know if 96 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: it's major or not, but it's it's not an easy 97 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: one to figure out. I mean, we have desk lamps. 98 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: We can manage, but it's just funny because they're going 99 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: on and off every so often, and now it's just 100 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: to a point where Steve and I just look at 101 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: each other and like it happened again. Yeah, because when 102 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 1: it came on today, I thought, okay, yeah, because you know, 103 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: you always get this. You always project your own timeline 104 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: on whoever's working, like you know when it should be done, 105 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: having no idea, So you're thinking they popped on this. 106 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: They were off all day yesterday all day, and so 107 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: they come in this morning and hey the lights are on. Yeah, okay, cool, 108 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: they got are fixed. And then yeah, they're like, oh, 109 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: not so much. Should have it? I thought that would 110 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: be fixed. Yeah, it's it's minor. It's not. I mean, 111 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: like I said, we got desk lamps. So it's the 112 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: first world problem, no question, we have. We have excellent 113 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: mood lighting now in the in the office. Yeah that 114 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: everything else is working, it's just the lights. The televisions 115 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: are working, the outlets are working. They're on a different 116 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: it's not clearly on a different circuit. Yeah, clearly, but 117 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: still hopefully they um because it started in the grounds 118 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: crew office, that's where everything began. But what what they're 119 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: messing around with obviously impacts other areas of the field 120 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: house where our offices are. So they'll get it squared away. 121 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about it, but we have to get 122 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: Steve to NFL news and notes, and there is AFC 123 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: East stuff to discuss, chiefly Steve with the New York Jets. Jets. Jets, Jets. 124 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: According to an Albert Breer report that appeared in his 125 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: mail bag, the Jets are interested in making a trade 126 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: work for DeAndre Hopkins. This is supposedly an all in 127 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: move to surround anticipated incoming quarterback Aaron Rodgers with as 128 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: much talent as possible. The way it reads to me, 129 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: this is more of a shot in the dark possibility, 130 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: and people are trying to connect dots because after Odell 131 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: Beckham Junior elected to sign with Baltimore, now this has 132 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: become more of a possibility for the Jets. Now, I 133 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: don't understand how that's possible, Steve. I gotta say, as 134 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: I've gotten older, I've taken a much more discerning eye 135 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: to reports like this. I'm not trying to dismiss it 136 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: out of hand and just say not happening. But here 137 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: we know this. The Jets balked at Beckham's agent when 138 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: he took the fifteen million dollars offer from the Ravens 139 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: and said, do you want to beat it? Jets and 140 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: the Jets are like, yeah, we're good not dropping fifteen 141 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: mill on Beckham for one year. So I mean, I'm 142 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: sure people have looked at the books. Hopkins is up 143 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: for nineteen million dollar base this year fifteen next year. 144 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: And I know he said he would be willing to 145 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: negotiate his contract to facilitate a trade back when all 146 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: this came down last month. But here's the other problem. 147 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: The Jets right now, Steve are nine point eight million 148 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: under the cap and they haven't acquired Rogers in his 149 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 1: salary yet, right, How the hell are you making all 150 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: that work? Yeah, you can't. And and they said, you know, Obj, hey, 151 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: you're not gonna give a guy fifteen million bucks guaranteed 152 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: after an injury, after an injury history like he's had. 153 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: D Hops played nineteen games over the last two years. 154 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: He's been nicked up as well, and he's pushing. He's thirty, 155 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: as both guys are, so neither one of those guys 156 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: is completely healthier, has been completely healthy. Plus d Hops 157 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: had suspensions for PDS. There's all of that going on 158 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 1: as well. So it's not like one is more attractive 159 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: for any reason than the other. They're both big numbers 160 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: and they're both injury have injury concerns. So if all 161 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: of that's equal in my mind, yeah, but not to mention. 162 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: I mean, the only way you're making this work is 163 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: if you're shipping out fat salaries cardinals in a trade. 164 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: The money doesn't work either way. You got you gotta 165 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: move money out if you're moving that in. Yeah, and 166 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: I get it now. D Hop is as tasty a 167 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: commodity as there is on the open market. Right now, 168 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: I say the open market. He's up for trade. But 169 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 1: the I mean the Jets really couldn't give up any 170 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: draft capital to the Arizona Cardinals for d Hop because 171 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: they might need that draft capital to close the deal 172 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: for Aaron Rodgers. The reason they're trading for d HOP, right, 173 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: I mean, they only got so many draft picks to 174 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: pit to choose from. They got to send players who 175 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: cost money to Arizona. If they're gonna make it work, 176 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: it's got to be dollars out for dollars in to 177 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 1: some degree, maybe not a wash, but to some degree 178 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: you've got to eat into that by sending money out 179 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: of off the books to bring his money on because okay, 180 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: maybe he takes even if he takes a five million 181 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: dollar haircut. He's right where Beckham was at fifteen million 182 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: for this year. He's making nineteen and a half this year. Yeah, 183 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: I mean, they they've got some guy. The Jets have 184 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: some guys on their roster. They can move around. C J. Mosley, 185 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: Carl Lawson, Dwayne Brown, Jory Davis. They could move some 186 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: money around, but that's a that's a lot of money 187 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to move around that those guys, which 188 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: just maybe cover Aaron Rodgers, let alone DeAndre. I don't know. 189 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: I don't know how this is all gonna work. I mean, 190 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: they're nine point eight under. They've got extra draft picks 191 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: this year, which may disappear with the Rogers deal. But 192 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: you gotta sign a draft class, right you know, you're 193 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: picking right in the middle of the round there, thirteen. 194 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: So look, I'm not a salary cap expert, but that's 195 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: looking like an awfully steep hill to climb and then 196 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: throwing d hop on top of it. Yeah. I don't know. 197 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I got all the respect in the 198 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: world for Albert Breer as a reporter, but it's hard 199 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: not to think it's more like spitballing, you know what. 200 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 1: I mean, like, I don't know how you make that work. 201 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're doing. They may be posturing 202 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,599 Speaker 1: so it gets out in the in or maybe the 203 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: Cardinals are floating this out there saying, oh, right, Jets 204 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: are interested AFC East, so you may want to get 205 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 1: in on this, right right right. Maybe that's maybe they're 206 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: trying to put this, you know, put the spurs to 207 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 1: the Bills even you know what I mean, the Bills 208 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: have expressed interest and yeah, and they've got the quarterback 209 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: already in house. So yeah, I don't know that any 210 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: of it adds up. Well, because it doesn't add up, 211 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: you wonder what the motivation is and where it came from. 212 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: So I'm I would suspect Arizona, but it doesn't seem 213 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: to have very many legs. But it's but it's a 214 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: real thing. It's out there, so and Arizona's you know, 215 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: and let's not forget this. Albert Bridge just last week 216 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: floated it out there that the Cardinals may just outright 217 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: release Hopkins if they can't get a trade done, right, 218 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: So it's like, well, which side of the fencey on here? 219 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: You know, one week he's getting released, the other week 220 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: the Jets are gonna swing a tra all of a 221 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: sudden now six days later, Like what the heck is? 222 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: It's hard. It's hard to put a lot of stock 223 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: in that report, I guess, is what I'm saying. I'm 224 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: not saying it's wrong. I'm just saying it's hard for 225 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: me to go along with it and all that it entails. 226 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: That's the tough part for me. The other part concerning 227 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: the Jets is the Aaron Rodgers deal, which has yet 228 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: to be consummated, and Adam Schefter from ESPN is reporting 229 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: that the two teams have not been in communication about 230 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: this potential deal for weeks. He said, quote, both sides 231 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: now appear to be dug in. My understanding is there 232 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: hasn't been a whole lot of conversation of any over 233 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. But the two sides apparently 234 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: aren't willing to budge on where they currently sit in 235 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: the trade demands. Right now. People would think that the 236 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: draft would be some sort of way station for something 237 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: getting done, because if you're going to trade form, you 238 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: want capital, don't even want to be able to use 239 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: it as fast as you can. You want to support 240 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: your guy right now, Except the two rookies they drafted 241 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 1: last year, Christian Watson and Romeo Doubts. Right, So the 242 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: ARD's gone, So there is a perceived deadline there that 243 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: something's got to happen. Not really, Uh, there's both sides 244 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: of the story. The Green Bay Packers they don't have 245 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: to do anything until September. That then something does have 246 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: to happen because they're on the fifty eight million bucks. 247 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: They can, they're gonna, they're they gotta make that happen. 248 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: I wonder the Jets, however, they can kind of sit 249 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: tight because the offense that they're running in New York 250 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: is the same offense Aaron Rodgers runs, and they can 251 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: rely on his sixteen year career to like say, hey, 252 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: get up to speed pretty fast. So, um, they're not 253 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: in any hurry. So this draft date may come and 254 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: go without anything happening between the Jets and the Green Bay, 255 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: but something is gonna definitely have to happen. Now go ahead. 256 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: I'm wondering, I want to get your thoughts on this. 257 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: If you're Joe Douglas and you want to wait, I 258 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: mean it would almost behoove you to wait past the 259 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: draft before making the deal official because because your draft 260 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: pick right now is thirteenth in the round, round one, 261 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: round two, etc. If you push this trade past the 262 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: draft now, the draft capital you offer is in twenty 263 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: twenty four, and with Aaron Rodgers on your roster, logic 264 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: would say your pick is not going to be as 265 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: good in twenty twenty four because you're gonna be a 266 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: better team with Rogers more wins. You'll be picking even 267 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: lower in the draft than you are now. So if 268 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: you're Joe Douglass, you might be saying to yourself, well, 269 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: I'm not under any pressure to get this deal done, 270 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: because if I don't get it done by the draft, 271 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: I can use all the draft picks I have to 272 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: make my roster better around Aaron Rodgers and then worry 273 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: about giving up picks next year and probably worst picks 274 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: in the process. There is one thing I can think 275 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: of that may that is not an issue now, or 276 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be an issue now. That could be 277 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: if the closer September gets is that the Jets wait, 278 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna They're not gonna succumb to the demands. The 279 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: draft comes and goes, all these teams start to settle 280 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: in something happens or something doesn't happen on the way there, 281 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: and some other team gets involved. They're saying, listen, if 282 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: they're not interested in Aaron Rodgers, how about this. You 283 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: know we didn't like the way. We're not that kind 284 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: of you know, how about us throwing this in and 285 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: this inn? Can you make that happen? And Green Bay 286 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: says yeah, And then even though wearing Rodgers kicks and screams, 287 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: they don't care. Well, we heard that report last week 288 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: with San Francisco. Francisco supposedly kicking the tires. I don't 289 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: know if they've made an offer, but think about it, 290 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: they're called because if you wait, if you're the Jets, 291 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: and you wait, and some of these other teams start 292 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: to go like, I don't know, man, I don't know 293 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: if we're ready, what's it cost for him? And that's 294 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: next year's draft, in twenty twenty four draft. Let's do it, 295 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: let's make the let's pull the trigger. And then the 296 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: Jets are holding the bag. So you've got two sides 297 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: that are dug in here, and each of them obviously 298 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: feel they have some measure of leverage, because if they didn't, 299 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: they would have made the deal already. Like they still 300 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: think that I can get what I want here, so 301 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: I can wait, right and I don't have to worry. 302 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, what is that one underlying, determining 303 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: aspect of this whole thing that convinces the Jets we 304 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: can wait, buddy, it's gonna get done. For the Jets, 305 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: it's probably the money that Green Bay would have to 306 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: pay if they can't get them off their roster by September. 307 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: For the Packers, though, it's a much different thing in 308 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 1: my eyes, And you tell me what you think for 309 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: the Packers. Brian Gutenkounst is convinced that the Jets will 310 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: ultimately make this deal because they can't draft another quarterback 311 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: and fail because if they do, Robert Sala and Joe 312 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 1: Douglas are g O and E gone. They need a 313 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: veteran quarterback to save their jobs. They don't get Rogers, 314 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: they have another middling season. They're suddenly on the hot 315 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: seat because that's year three with Sala and Douglas and 316 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: no playoffs. That's a problem. Is that enough for gutencous 317 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: to be hanging his hat on He's they need a 318 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: veteran They can't draft another one in miss Or they're 319 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: definitely gone. Sure, I get that, you think, Yeah, I 320 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 1: mean there's there. Yeah, I think he's hanging his hat on. 321 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 1: I don't think. I think Gutenco is just sitting there 322 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: going listens. He's a first ballot Hall of Famer already. 323 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: We're not letting him go unless we get something for him. 324 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: He's a two one year Two years ago, he was 325 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: back to back MVP. Yeah, you're not getting him for 326 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:25,719 Speaker 1: less than what we're calling for. I don't know. And 327 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: I'll say this too, the Jets should be incentivize. They 328 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: hired Nate Hackett, his buddy offensive coordinator. I just both 329 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: these clubs have a lot of huge reasons to make 330 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: this deal. But the Packers are under no deadline except 331 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: for the September deadline. That's and I'll say this too, 332 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: brilliant by the Packers in formulating this contract the way 333 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: they did, because they could foresee how this was gonna 334 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: work at the end when they could they waited all 335 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: the way through the offseason and not have to give 336 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: him a dime. Yeah, it's like to have a roster bonus. 337 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: It's March twentieth, right, It's brilliant, It's really brilliant. And 338 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: and Aaron took the money because it was all guaranteed. 339 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: He didn't care, you know how tough it is for 340 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: what other what other unnamed next team he's gonna play for? 341 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: How why does he care about that? They're gonna pay 342 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: him anyway, it's all guaranteed, or the Packers are gonna 343 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: pay him. So it was brilliantly devised by the Packers 344 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: to have this way far out date where they can 345 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: push this trade all the way back into the season 346 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: or virtually. I'm just wondering what each side is hanging 347 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: their head on, like, we don't have to offer anything 348 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: else because they're gonna blink. Yeah, and now you got 349 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: a staring contest. Yeah, Andrew Brandon, guy friend of the show, 350 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,400 Speaker 1: who he said, you know, neither one of these teams 351 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: is not unusual. There's neither one of these teams or 352 00:20:54,119 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: under any pressure to make this happen. The Green Bay 353 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: certainly can wait until September. That's the only hard date 354 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: that's out there. The Jets can wait as long as 355 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: it takes. And and basically too with your theory about 356 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: the um jobs being on the line. The longer it 357 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: takes to consummate the deal, the more leeway they have 358 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: in the way it begins of it slows start. Wow, 359 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: they couldn't make the trade until September. That it's not 360 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: their fault, whatever whatever, But certainly this this is gonna 361 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: be made at the eleventh hour. The question is when 362 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: is the elem it's the eleventh it's not. It might 363 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: not be until until. People think that's the first potential deadline. Yeah, 364 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: it's gonna until August or September. August or September is 365 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. Yeah, I remember, I remember in twenty 366 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: eleven when they had the lockout. People are like, oh, well, 367 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: when's something going to happen. People are like a week 368 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: before or training camp, and that's what there's a deadline. 369 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: Our good friend Kim Jones, formerly of NFL Network, now 370 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: working for Newsday down on Long Island, is reporting that 371 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: se Quon Barkley will not be signing his franchise tag 372 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: with the Giants, which obviously means he is not eligible 373 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: to participate when the Giants offseason program begins next week. 374 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: The Bills off season program begins next week as well. 375 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: You have no contract, you cannot participate. So if he 376 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: doesn't sign it he doesn't have a contract. So what 377 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: that means going forward, I have to wait and see. 378 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: But he could he could not sign that. I think 379 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: all the way up to middle of July, I want 380 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: to say, or maybe I'm thinking of person that signs. 381 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 1: They can negotiate a long term contract until July fifteenth. 382 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: He can just not sign it. But I do think 383 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: there's a deadline to sign or not sign, and then 384 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: he's not gonna not play. He's got he's got to 385 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: enhance his value for free agency next year conceivably. Yeah, 386 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: I mean if he if he doesn't play, he's leaving 387 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 1: ten million bucks on the table. And we saw so 388 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 1: how that worked for Bell did that, and how it's 389 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: worked for Lamar's fourteen million dollars. He's never going to 390 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: get back, um Lamar, same kind of thing. Now. Lamar 391 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: is also one of the franchise tenure non exclusive. Um, 392 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: if he doesn't play this year, he'll never get the 393 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: thirty three million back. Never. And that's an issue. And 394 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: that's and that's the hammer that NFL front offices hold 395 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: because they're here forever you as a player or not. 396 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, you're on a very short timeline, 397 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: right and some young players don't realize that maybe in 398 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: their third or fourth season, but they do buy their 399 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: fifth the six they're like, man, man, I'm halfway through already. Yeah. 400 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: If I'm lucky, yeah yeah, if I if I can, 401 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm lucky, I can keep going. Yeah. Um, there's a 402 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: lot of franchise tags out there. I think only one 403 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: has been signed, and I can't now I'm gonna have 404 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 1: to go. I gotta go. Look. Most of the franchise 405 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: tenders that have been given to players the designations have 406 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: not been signed. Most of them have not. Lamar hasn't 407 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: signed his, as we just heard say, Quan hasn't signed his. 408 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: There's a couple of others out there. Um, it's you know, 409 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: so all these all these guys, they're waiting there because 410 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: one of the reasons is you don't have to go 411 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: through the OTAs and all the offseason stuff. You don't 412 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: want to. I think Tony Pollard's the only guy that 413 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: signed his that's right, signed the other day. Tony Pollard's 414 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: has the only guy that signed one of the like 415 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: six guys or seven guys, Josh Jacobs, Evan Ingram, Deron Payne, 416 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: Washington Commanders, nobody signed them except for Pollard some other 417 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: around the NFL News to discuss the Devin White trade 418 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: request that we mentioned on the Area yesterday as it 419 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: was first breaking. The Bucks have no intention of trading 420 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: Devin White. They know his former fifth pick in the 421 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: draft in twenty nineteen, and his situation is similar to 422 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: what we saw with Tremaine Edmonds at this time last 423 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: year that the Bills had picked up his fifth year option, 424 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 1: so he played under the fifth year option and an 425 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: extension could not be brokered. And then the free agent 426 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: market was there and Tremaine, which is his right, decided 427 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: to maximize his value in the market. He did. He 428 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: got seventeen million a year. He was really the only 429 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 1: linebacker that got gigantic money, not counting Roquan Smith, who 430 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: signed an extension with Baltimore after he was traded from 431 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: Chicago before the offseason even began, got twenty million a year. 432 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: But aside from those two guys, nobody made gigantic money 433 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: at the linebacker position. And now Devin White's like, well, 434 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: Tremaine Emmon's got paid, but where's my extension? Right? And 435 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: I don't know that the Bucks value the linebacker position 436 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: in that way. So he's on a fifty year option 437 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: and he's kind of stuck. Yeah, and they're gonna probably 438 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: just let him ride it out this year and then 439 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: you know, go get your value and free agency. Best 440 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,239 Speaker 1: to luck to you. That's probably how the Bucks are 441 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: going to play it. So Devin White has a trade 442 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: option for other teams that need a middle linebacker, including 443 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: the Bills, does not look to be there. And I 444 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: don't know that this would have made sense for the 445 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: Bills anyway, because you're right back in the same situation 446 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: you were in last year with Tremaine. You got a 447 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,959 Speaker 1: guy on the last year of his contract, fifty year option, 448 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: he wants an extension. You can't afford what that's gonna cost, 449 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: nor do you maybe value the position at a rate anyway, 450 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: And so now you're just gonna have a guy for 451 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: another year. I mean, he's a good player, but you 452 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: might be better off getting a young guy that you 453 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: know you're gonna have for four years just for continuity's 454 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: sake on your defense. So I think he ultimately stays 455 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: there and plays out the year and whatever. Yeah, I 456 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: get that. Going back to where you were. I'm going 457 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: back to where you were just a year ago with Tremaine. 458 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 1: But that doesn't I've told you that, that doesn't bother me. 459 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: There's always gonna be good players out there in free agency. 460 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: The one thing you always forget is that everybody else 461 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: is gonna lose guys too, and go find one. So 462 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: you've got the entire draft and the free agent market 463 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: to go out and find another replacement for a guy, 464 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: and particularly for a guy if you if it's like 465 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: running back, middle linebacker, or name any other position you want, 466 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: you can get it. You can get a guy to 467 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: do it cheaper. And if you don't prioritize the position anyway, 468 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: all the better. Yeah, So I'm I don't have a 469 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: problem doing that. But yeah, Devin, they're not gonna trade 470 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: Devin White anyway, and plus you don't I mean, they 471 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: may not like the way he looks on film either. 472 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: I mean he's been said he's like not that instinctive, 473 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: and you know he's numb five overall pick. He's a 474 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: super athlete. I mean, his athleticism is the main reason 475 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: he makes the plays that he does. He is a 476 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: freak athlete, right, but he's you know, yeah, it's not 477 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: all pro. Yeah, I think he's made the Pro Bowl 478 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: a couple of times, but not all Pro You are 479 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: correct quickly down the list of pre draft visits which 480 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: are hot and heavy. Here with a couple of weeks 481 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: before the draft. Kentucky QB Will Levis visiting the Bucks today, 482 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: has the Falcons tomorrow. How's Desmond Ridder feeling about being 483 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: the starting quote? Being named the starting quarterback for Atlanta? 484 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: They got Will Levis on a pre draft visit, and 485 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: you know that your team has the eighth, eighth pick 486 00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: and round one. Have fun with that. Penn State Cornerie 487 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: Porter Junior, he's visiting the Panthers. Mississippi State corner Emmanuel Forbes. 488 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: He met with the Patriots and is now going to 489 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: meet with the Bengals. So they're both of those teams 490 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: in the AFC looking to improve their secondaries. Georgia defensive 491 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: tackle Jaln Carter visiting with the Raiders today, who hold 492 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: the seventh pick, so that's interesting. Oklahoma wide receiver Marvin 493 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: Mims considered a Day two pick meeting with the Giants today. 494 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: And then TCU running back Kendre Miller, who was instrumental 495 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: Steve in TCU's run to the National title game. He's 496 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: met with the Chargers in the RAMS, and now he 497 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: reportedly has top thirty visits this week with the Giants, 498 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, and the Bills. Running back Kendre Miller. Kendray 499 00:29:54,920 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: Miller looks go. Who you know is probably I don't 500 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: even think he's in your top one hundred necessarily, So 501 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: you're talking about an early Day three guy. Perhaps, I mean, 502 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: maybe somebody likes him at the end of day two. 503 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, but in all likelihood of Day three guy. 504 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: Nice player though, was really helpful to that TCU offense 505 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: got nicked up at the end of the year. If 506 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: I remember right, I don't even know if he played. 507 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: I might be mixing him up with the other running 508 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: back for TCU, but there was one of their top 509 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: two backs was injured and did not play in the 510 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: title game. It was unfortunate bad ankle injury. Right, But 511 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: that is around the NFL presented by Kalid to Health, 512 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: the official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. Topic of 513 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: discussion for you today. The Bills draft class is assembled. 514 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: The draft has happened, It's done. Here's your twenty twenty 515 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: three draft class. What position can't be absent from Buffalo's 516 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three draft class. You tell us at eight 517 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: O three oh five fifty one eight eight eight five 518 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty number to get on board open 519 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: lines for you there, or hit us up at the 520 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: tweet sheet at one Bills Live. What position has to 521 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: be on that twenty twenty three draft class list. You 522 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: tell us next here on one Bills Live. All right 523 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: back here on a Wednesday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. 524 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: What position can't be absent from Buffalo's twenty twenty three 525 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: draft class when it is fully assembled and finished on 526 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: Saturday evening, day three of the draft. We gotta get there, man, 527 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna pop like a colonel of popcorn 528 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: in the microwave right now. I'm just ready to go 529 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: for this draft. But let's go to the phones and 530 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: see what you think. At eight oh three oh five 531 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty 532 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: the toll free number to get on boards, they'll have 533 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: a couple of open lines for you. But leading us 534 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 1: off today is Jeff in NYC. What do you got 535 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: for us? Jeff, Hey, guys, it's great to hear from me. 536 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: It's my first time call on. I love the show, 537 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: listen all the time. I really appreciate it. I got 538 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: to say, the position for me has got to be 539 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: the middle linebacker. I have no issue with selecting either 540 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: Campbell or the guy from Arkansas at late first round, 541 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: whether he's your first round grade or not. And in 542 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: coalition with it, I'm every year we get to the 543 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: end of the draft, we get to start a training camp, 544 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: we start talking about the six seventh round guys who 545 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: there's no hole to make the fifty three. So I'm 546 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: wondering how much stock you would put into using some 547 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: of your late round capital to solidify the couple of 548 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: big holes that we have either middle linebacker, wide receiver, 549 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: offensive line, defensive tackle, which I think are the four 550 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: key positions to bolster and use some of that capital 551 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: because those guys are going to be a practice squad 552 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: and are they really gonna I went through the roster 553 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: yesterday and just could not outside of wide receiver possibly linebacker. 554 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: Couldn't see a six or seventh round guy crack in 555 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: the fifty three. But what we asked, Yeah, yeah, that's 556 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: a valid It's a valid point, Jeff, and thanks for 557 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: the call. Appreciate it, thanks for calling and listening. They 558 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: don't have a seven this year. That's number one, So 559 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: they only have six picks that they're bringing to the 560 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: table in the first place. That's number one. Number two. Yeah, 561 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: it's great to talk about giving up a six or 562 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: a five, but they don't help you tremendously in terms 563 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: of the value that they hold. If you're moving up 564 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: two or three spots, yeah, they could help you, but 565 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: given somebody two oh five and round six, it's not 566 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: moving the needle much. I get the premise because we 567 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: witnessed it even two years ago. Think about this. The 568 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: Bills had three six round picks and a seventh a 569 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and they drafted Rashad wild Goose, 570 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: Tyler bass Jack Anderson the offensive lineman. They put wild 571 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: Goose and Anderson on the actor squad. They both get poached, 572 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: They get poached off and put on fifty three man 573 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: rosters elsewhere Philadelphia and Washington. I want to say, initially 574 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: or maybe the Jets for wild Goose, But when you're 575 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: Brandon being you're like, well, son of a gun, what's 576 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,439 Speaker 1: the point of having those if I can't even hold 577 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 1: onto them? And this roster is advanced, to Jeff's point, 578 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 1: to a point where, yeah, that would make sense. I 579 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: would just six picks though, and hard against the cap. 580 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,439 Speaker 1: You might keep them to hold on to cheap labor 581 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: that your hope's good enough to make the roster, right, 582 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 1: you could at least you got a four and a five. 583 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: But they're only seven picks apart. It's one thirty one 584 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 1: thirty seven. One thirty seven came from the Arizona Cardinals, 585 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: so you could make an argument to those could both 586 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: be considered you know, fourth rounders or four fourth and 587 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: a fifth that close together. Okay, maybe you package them 588 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: up and flip a couple of spots. I get what 589 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: you're saying about the roster being tough to make. They 590 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 1: will lost three games in the regular season last year 591 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: by a total of eight points. Then they're gonna be 592 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: really good this year. The roster's gonna be hard to make, 593 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: particularly given the offensive line moves they've made and the 594 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 1: ones you anticipate them moving at the top of the draft, 595 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: the names, the positions you could get at the top 596 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: of the draft. It's gonna be hard for somebody to 597 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: come in and make the roster. Yeah, the positions that 598 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: I think we can call I don't think we would 599 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: call them thin, but could use some reinforcements defensive tackle 600 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: because of the expiring contract situation. Right then you can 601 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: make an argument for corner because behind Trudevia's Tarn and 602 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 1: Kier might be Benford. So Rand Neil is a special 603 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: teamer that can play corner. Do you know what I'm saying. 604 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: But you could use reinforcements there. Tight end you have 605 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: to could use help there. Offensive line you never have enough, 606 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: to Steve's point, as he says it all the time. 607 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: And then safety, I mean there are positions where you 608 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 1: could say, man, we could use somebody there, you know, 609 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: at least in the pipeline, you know, maybe not front 610 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 1: line three. You've got three sought quality safeties and then 611 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: you've got the guys that have been here before, cam 612 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: Lewis and Damar if he's so desires so and you 613 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: know with the Benford and what he's doing, and if 614 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: you're corner back there. So safety is a little bit 615 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: further down the list, But yeah, I mean there's always 616 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: you always need good player. Good players make you better. 617 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: There will be some players available out there is what 618 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: there still are some players available out there in free 619 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: agency and they're waiting for the right move or the 620 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 1: right spot. The thing always get into with the draft, 621 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: and I keep going back to a time and time again, 622 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: you can get guys that turn into really good players 623 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: at any point in the draft. At any point. Yeah, 624 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: the guys you get from the free agent market, you 625 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: know those guys there, you've seen him play in the 626 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: NFL or not play in the NFL when a team 627 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 1: that you think they should be playing for, you've seen 628 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 1: him playing systems that are that they should be able 629 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,799 Speaker 1: to play in. If they can't play, they can't play right. 630 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: But the draft, there's always that unknown, like maybe you 631 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: get a guy that all of a sudden he flourishes, 632 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: because that's a possibility. It's a projection, but it's an 633 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: unknown projection where you would logic would tell you that 634 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: you know a little bit more about a guy that's 635 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: played in the league, that's still a free agent after 636 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: the draft and probably costs less. So even though you're 637 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 1: tight against the cap, maybe you can still fit a 638 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: guy on a one year deal who's willing to take 639 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 1: the veteran minimum just to maximize his value for next year. 640 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: By getting on the field this year in some capacity. 641 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: Let's go back to the phones, though, and see what 642 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: you think. What position can't be absent from Buffalo's twenty 643 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,439 Speaker 1: twenty three draft class. When all is said and done, 644 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: after night three to rank in Woodstock, we go, what 645 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,959 Speaker 1: do you got? Frank? Are you doing? Chris Steve? You're 646 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: my Hall of Famer Steve, you always will be a 647 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: hell of a ball player. Than appreciate it. I had 648 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: a couple of comments, real click my direct TV. They're 649 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: taking my NFL ticket away. I'm sure you guys are 650 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: aware of scrowing a YouTube or something. My question is, though, 651 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,839 Speaker 1: do you guys know if they're going to keep your 652 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: show on direct TV? Because I get your show here 653 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: the one Bill's drives, thank God. Other than that, I 654 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't hear nothing about Buffalo chucking thing is yeah, I'm serious, 655 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: I get it. I listen. I live in a great town, 656 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 1: but all it is is pott and hippies. Oh, very 657 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:48,879 Speaker 1: few football fans. My second My second thing is I 658 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: think wide receiver. You get Josh that Hopkins or another 659 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,720 Speaker 1: great wide receiver, he'll be back to the old Josh. 660 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 1: Thirty forty points a game. That's what his game is, 661 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: that's what he does, that's what they were, that's what 662 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: they were born to do. And I thought Singletary did 663 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: a pretty good job. Too bad he did it to 664 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: towards the end of the season, but tomorrow he got 665 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 1: the ball the better he did. Um, And I guess 666 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: that's it. And I love your guys show. Hopefully I 667 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: get to keep it U And now I got to 668 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: figure out how I'm going to can do the YouTube 669 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: thing so I can watch the Buffalo Bills. Otherwise all 670 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 1: I see is Jets and Giants. Yeah, it ain't all right. 671 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: Thanks Frank, you guys have a great week, and again 672 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 1: I love your show. Take care of guys. Thanks. Yeah. Fortunately, 673 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 1: we have nothing to do with the NFL ticket. It's 674 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: not so much our show. It's it's MSG station well right, 675 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: and it's available on direct TV and will continue to 676 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: be so as far as we understand, So you should 677 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,760 Speaker 1: be good to go, Frank and Woodstock. Um. The game 678 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: pass is different right, um, which I think there is 679 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: a video element to that. Can you watch live though 680 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: I don't maybe not. The game pass, the premium, the 681 00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 1: NFL Sunday ticket, the Sunday ticket, it's going to YouTube. 682 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,240 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to flip it over probably get to YouTube. 683 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:11,399 Speaker 1: And and that's hard for people who don't use internet television. Um, yeah, 684 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: you'd be watching on a laptop. You bet. You don't 685 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: have a TV. Yeah, that there is that, but it's 686 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 1: still gonna be you know, a couple hundred bucks a 687 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:23,240 Speaker 1: year for ever, Yes, for every sort nine on YouTube 688 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,760 Speaker 1: was the number I saw, three hundred forty nine bucks 689 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: M receiver. Yes. I think a lot of people, a 690 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: lot of fans, are of the opinion that the Bills 691 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: cannot come out of this draft without a receiver among 692 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: the draft class. I'm wondering how long fans are willing 693 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: to wait for that receiver to get picked, Because if 694 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: we get to the latter stages of Day two and 695 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 1: the receiver has not been taken yet, I think, well, no, 696 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: I would hope not, but I think some fans will 697 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: be getting a little the anxiety level will be going. 698 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 1: All right, they got picked twenty seven fifty nine ninety 699 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,839 Speaker 1: one one thirty one thirty seven and two O one 700 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 1: two O five, I'm sorry, two O five, And so 701 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: it's twenty seven fifty nine ninety one one thirty one 702 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 1: thirty seven and two oh five we take down to 703 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: ninety one Steve and the receiver hasn't been taken yet. Yeah, 704 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: there'll be people are gonna be gripping a little bit. Yeah, 705 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 1: they'll be Yeah, I'll be all right. Sorry, they're gonna 706 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,919 Speaker 1: They're not gonna one thing about it. They are not 707 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 1: going to pick a guy because Bill's fans are clamoring 708 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: they won't. They're gonna do it because this he stands 709 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: out on their board. Yeah, and the value he's the 710 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 1: best guy left. So especially down there, the further down 711 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: the board you go, the less the less athletic, and 712 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 1: smaller they are. They you know, you need big athletic 713 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 1: guys at the top of the draft. That's because they 714 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: measure them and you can't hide those. But then in 715 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 1: the middle of the draft and the bottom of the draft, 716 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 1: you need guys who have something special inside of him 717 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,439 Speaker 1: more so than the measurables. Yeah, that's what they look for. 718 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 1: So because those guys always improve, you know, you get 719 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,839 Speaker 1: a guy and that's where the Bills have proven those 720 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,760 Speaker 1: guys at the middle and the bottom of the draft, 721 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: the evaluation goes is more skewed to the what's he 722 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 1: got in here? Side of it rather than what we 723 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: can measure. They're hard in their head because you get 724 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: a guy who tries harder, works harder, is more committed, smarter, whatever, whatever, whatever, 725 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: Those guys always improve. Those guys are always going to 726 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: get better and better and better and better, particularly when 727 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 1: you get him in your system and your techniques and 728 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,919 Speaker 1: all that. They work hard at getting it right where 729 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 1: it's sometimes, and we've all seen it, the guys who 730 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: have all the measurables, who've never had to do that. 731 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,520 Speaker 1: I think I'm still okay, I'm gonna be fine. Right. Well, 732 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 1: you get a guy and all of a sudden, you 733 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 1: get a guy who is big enough and fast enough 734 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: and strong enough, but he's just got well he's missing. 735 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,839 Speaker 1: He was playing it in a Poe dunk you off 736 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,839 Speaker 1: in the nether regions and you know, nobody knows where 737 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: he was from, nobody parts unknown. He shows up and 738 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,879 Speaker 1: he's he's like, well he's big and strong, look at him. Yeah, okay, 739 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: but where who is he again? Where'd he play? And 740 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 1: then he comes in and all of a sudden he 741 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: starts to flourish because he's that kind of guy. And uh, 742 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,600 Speaker 1: you find a guy like a Matt Milano and a 743 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: tarn Johnson and you know Levi Wallace is an undrafted 744 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: rookie free agents Tyler Bass. Those kind of players turn 745 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: up at the middle of the bottom of the draft 746 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 1: because there are too many question marks about him. And 747 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 1: when you get those guys that have a ton of 748 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 1: questions about him, when they start ticking off those questions 749 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,919 Speaker 1: and going, yeah, I got that one, yes, yes, yeah, 750 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 1: you get you start answering those questions and they're all, yes, 751 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: you got a really good player, but he didn't know 752 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,959 Speaker 1: it when you drafted them all the projection. We gotta 753 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 1: take a break here, but Alex in Pittsburgh stay right 754 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 1: where you are. You will lead us off in the 755 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 1: next segment as we are asking you what position can't 756 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: be absent from Buffalo's twenty twenty three draft class. Open 757 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,479 Speaker 1: lines for you at eight oh three, five fifty. It's 758 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: wide open for your phone calls. Next here on one 759 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:38,359 Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Stay tuned all right back to your phone 760 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 1: calls here on one Bill's Live. What position can't be 761 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:45,760 Speaker 1: absent from Buffalo's twenty twenty three draft class. As promised, 762 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,880 Speaker 1: we lead off with Alex in Pittsburgh, what do you 763 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 1: got for us. Alex, Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. Um, 764 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:53,800 Speaker 1: I have to, I have too. If I made The 765 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 1: first one is very obvious to me. It's the middle linebacker, 766 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 1: and um, if he knows when Edmins is off the 767 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 1: field is a very note and I don't have much 768 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 1: faith in the two guys backing him up. And obviously 769 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 1: I believe that Bee knows this. And my second one 770 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 1: you can go with like receiver or any other position. 771 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 1: My second one is defensive tackle, just because we have 772 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 1: guys on expiring contracts one year deals in them. I 773 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 1: know McDermott likes to road paid his guys in and out, 774 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 1: but that's another one. I think it's very important for 775 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 1: the bill to get younger at two. And I'll hang 776 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:24,879 Speaker 1: up and listen to you. Guys. Have to say thanks 777 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 1: again to take him my calls. Yeah, sure, thanks, Alex. Yeah, 778 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 1: he's you're right. I mean you can't and I know 779 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to talk out of both sides of 780 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 1: my mouth. That doesn't really scare me having guys, a 781 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 1: bunch of guys at one position on expiring contracts, but 782 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 1: you can't ignore it either. So Chris is right, he 783 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 1: knows four of the four defensive tackles on the Bill's 784 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,399 Speaker 1: roster right now. This is the last year or the 785 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,919 Speaker 1: only year of their contract. This time next year, none 786 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 1: of these guys haven't hit. There's a chance that none 787 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,880 Speaker 1: of them are on the roster because they're all free agents. 788 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 1: They're all gonna be out. So you got you're gonna 789 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 1: have no defensive tackles, so you can't ignore it. I'm 790 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 1: not really up, you know, I'm not worried about it, 791 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 1: but I get it. You can't ignore it either, so 792 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 1: I would be surprised. I would not be surprised if 793 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 1: they get a guy. My only problem with it is 794 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: to get a guy that can really play. Despite what 795 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 1: I said in the last segment, more so than maybe 796 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:36,319 Speaker 1: any other position in football, a defensive tackle or nose 797 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 1: guard has to have some measurables. One is he's got 798 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:44,240 Speaker 1: to tip the scales. Those guys don't just fall off trees. 799 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 1: It's hard to find a guy with a body and 800 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,239 Speaker 1: a physique built for interior defensive line play in the 801 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 1: National Football League. So if you're gonna get one of 802 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 1: those guys, my thought is you need to go high 803 00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,400 Speaker 1: in the draft to get a good one sidered a 804 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,319 Speaker 1: great defensive tackle class. There is an alpha male in 805 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,400 Speaker 1: Jalen Carter, and there's another pretty darn good one in 806 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 1: Brian Brazi, but the depth of the class is not 807 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: there right at least that's the general consensus on the position. 808 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 1: So neither one of those guys will be available at 809 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:26,640 Speaker 1: twenty seven. If he is. If they are, one of 810 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 1: them is, it's going to be brass. But that's my 811 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 1: take on it. I don't have a problem taking a 812 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 1: defensive tackle, but I think if you're going to get 813 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 1: one who can actually play, I think you've gotta go 814 00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 1: you gotta go high. Yeah. The interesting even despite what 815 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: I said last segment about you know the character and 816 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 1: the you know the guy's ability to improve, the interesting 817 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 1: thing last season was the Bills kept five defensive ends, 818 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 1: four defensive tackles on the active fifty three, and then 819 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,320 Speaker 1: obviously they had guys on the practice squad. Eliankoup, Branch Bryant, 820 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 1: people like that. If you draft one this year, somewhere 821 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 1: on day two even early day three, you're probably keeping 822 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 1: five defensive tackles and maybe only four defensive ants on 823 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,800 Speaker 1: the roster. Made. That's what I'm saying because you're not 824 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,319 Speaker 1: gonna draft a kid in the fourth round and put 825 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 1: them on the practice squad. You'll get poached unless well, 826 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got four guys you can protect every week. 827 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,880 Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, I get it. It 828 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:29,400 Speaker 1: was it was just the scales, and I totally get that. Um. 829 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like you won't have bodies to 830 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 1: line up, but yeah, certainly, if you're gonna put them 831 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 1: on the fifty three and make sure they're there, one 832 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:42,919 Speaker 1: of your defensive ends are gonna have to sit down 833 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 1: or be deactive or moved or moved. So you've got 834 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 1: that puts because you just got loss, got Vaughan, you 835 00:48:53,080 --> 00:49:00,720 Speaker 1: signed Shack Rousseau, Bash him Epanessa. That's five pretty pretty 836 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:05,399 Speaker 1: prominent names. Um. It makes it makes it a juggling act. 837 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,839 Speaker 1: It does. Yes, if they take a defensive tackle, now, 838 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,440 Speaker 1: you could do something between now and then to mitigate that. 839 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 1: But you know, figure it out when it all comes 840 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 1: out in the wash. You may go through a little 841 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 1: training camp. Last week, at training camp, somebody gets hurt, 842 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 1: they're out for the year, and now now your surplus 843 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 1: has become no longer app It's possible too that when 844 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 1: you get when it shakes out, you've got a positional need. 845 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 1: You could go ten, five dts, five defensive ends, but 846 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:34,879 Speaker 1: that's only because you've got you're gonna carry like five linebackers, yeah, 847 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:39,359 Speaker 1: four linebackers, or two tight ends or you know you're 848 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 1: gonna two tight ends a rob from another position, right, um, 849 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, or like three safeties that kind of thing. 850 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:50,239 Speaker 1: So um, there's that possibility where you could squeeze another 851 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:55,280 Speaker 1: roster spot into those spots to those places. But given 852 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 1: what happened last year with injuries, you're gonna you're gonna 853 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 1: be juggling, you know, twenty two objects trying to keep 854 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 1: it in the air with the roster spots. So yeah, 855 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 1: we'll see. We have to take a break here, but 856 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,839 Speaker 1: Joe and Nashville, Mike and Ken Moore, you guys are 857 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,360 Speaker 1: going to start us off in the second hour wide 858 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 1: open phone calls for you. What position cannot be absent 859 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,759 Speaker 1: from Buffalo's twenty twenty three draft class. You tell us 860 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 1: at eight oh three oh five fifty open line for you. 861 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 1: There one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty 862 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,799 Speaker 1: the number to get on board. We'll catch you on 863 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,880 Speaker 1: the other side here on one Bill's Live. Stay tuned 864 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:05,279 Speaker 1: this One Bills Live presented by Come Might a Health 865 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,279 Speaker 1: an hour number two. Here on a hump day edition 866 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,840 Speaker 1: of One Bills Live, Chris Brown Steve task with you. 867 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 1: Getting right back to the phones as we are discussing 868 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:18,120 Speaker 1: today the twenty twenty three bills draft classes assembled. What 869 00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:22,600 Speaker 1: position cannot be absent from it? We go right back 870 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,680 Speaker 1: to the phones to kick off our number two with 871 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,279 Speaker 1: Joe in Nashville. What do you got for us? Joe 872 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:31,800 Speaker 1: in Music City, Good morning, gentlemen, but I was good afternoon, gentlemen. 873 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 1: Sorry I won't have anything to contribute to today's topic. 874 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,320 Speaker 1: But the reason why I called was mister Brown and 875 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,400 Speaker 1: missed the tasker. I've been listening for years now, the 876 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,759 Speaker 1: first time caller who I've been listening for years. I 877 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,360 Speaker 1: really enjoy listening to you guys almost every single day, 878 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,879 Speaker 1: mister Brown. I wish there was some kind of way 879 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 1: I can listen to your broadcast when you're doing of 880 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 1: the games, because you get me so hype or so pumped. 881 00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 1: I've never played any lique football, but I'll just want 882 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,799 Speaker 1: to go rabbed the first helmet and throw it on. 883 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 1: I really you're the excitement and an energy that you 884 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 1: bringing no offense to mister Murphy. I hope he's recovering. Well. 885 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 1: Wishes and prayers to him and his family. But I 886 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 1: just enjoy listening to you. You You really give me 887 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 1: hype and mister Tasker, you are indeed a national treasure. 888 00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:27,920 Speaker 1: I for everything that you've done for the New York, 889 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,440 Speaker 1: Western New York, for the buffalo bills of that community. 890 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. There are two things I wish 891 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,440 Speaker 1: I could get, but I doubt it what happened. I 892 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,360 Speaker 1: would love to hear some kind of podcasts between you 893 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,680 Speaker 1: and the file precdents because I know that's just comedy 894 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,960 Speaker 1: gold right there. And then also I think you guys 895 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 1: can do some kind of new segment called Tasker tit 896 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,000 Speaker 1: Bits or something like that, because you have me cracking 897 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 1: up almost every single day. I would have more at 898 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 1: some of the things, some of the weird, wild, crazy 899 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,800 Speaker 1: things that you said, than some of the comedy because 900 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,000 Speaker 1: I've gone to so gentlemen, keep up to go work. 901 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,840 Speaker 1: I love what you guys doing. Well. Thanks Joe, the 902 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 1: check is in the mail. Thanks for pumping our tires. 903 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,680 Speaker 1: My god, that was really nice. Overwhelming there, That's very nice. Yeah, 904 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,719 Speaker 1: thanks for the call. I appreciate it, Joe, and thanks 905 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,759 Speaker 1: for listening. Um, wow, talk about it. I mean, yeah, 906 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,759 Speaker 1: you can get us on. I gotta have Joe on 907 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 1: like my voicemail every Monday morning, get me ready for 908 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 1: the week. Yeah, he can't get us on a podcast though, 909 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 1: builds by the numbers. You can get us on, so 910 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,440 Speaker 1: we do have a podcast. I guess that's what he 911 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,799 Speaker 1: was talking about. Yeah, well he was saying, get it 912 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,359 Speaker 1: with the five presidents. That would be Oh my gosh, yeah, 913 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 1: that's company gold. He could you could. Yeah, if you 914 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,719 Speaker 1: could do that, nobody can afford to do that, didn't 915 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,400 Speaker 1: we just put it that way? Well, yeah, I wouldn't 916 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:47,480 Speaker 1: show up for nothing. That is corect They're a little 917 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,759 Speaker 1: too steep ye on the budget. We would never be 918 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:54,480 Speaker 1: able to financially make that work. Um, but yeah, yes, 919 00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 1: you're right. Steve is he is a card man. He 920 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,239 Speaker 1: comes up with some stuff and I'm like, that just 921 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,799 Speaker 1: come out of his mouth. Like. People still talk to 922 00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 1: us locally here about when Steve described Aaron Rodgers as 923 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,840 Speaker 1: a wild donkey. They think it's the funniest thing that 924 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 1: they've ever heard in terms of describing a human. Yeah. Um, 925 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 1: but it is remarkably you know, it's right, or we 926 00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 1: call him that's right. That's the other one. He's a 927 00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,640 Speaker 1: weird No, he does, has nobody in his life. He 928 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 1: just shows up places. He definitely has a tryang. He's 929 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 1: got one of those Merlin headsactly definitely has what it is. 930 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:41,120 Speaker 1: He's kid. He's he's got some powers, no question about it. 931 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:46,800 Speaker 1: But nobody understands him. Oh my god. Yes, well I 932 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,359 Speaker 1: appreciate it though. That's nice, Joe, that was very nice here. 933 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,319 Speaker 1: We appreciate the bouquets you were throwing at us. That's 934 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,040 Speaker 1: very nice. And we thank you for your listenership. Um, 935 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:59,440 Speaker 1: and hopefully we've got some uh some good wise cracks 936 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:02,840 Speaker 1: to keep your So let's move along from him to 937 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 1: Mike and Ken Moore. Next. What do you got for 938 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:09,160 Speaker 1: his Mike Fella's first time call a long time listener. 939 00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,799 Speaker 1: You guys are wonderful. It's a tough call to beat 940 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:16,840 Speaker 1: that last one. But I'm gonna say offensive line. Okay, 941 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,200 Speaker 1: you know you need to protect your franchise. I understand 942 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,480 Speaker 1: that this draft is very deep on the offensive line. 943 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,839 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say offensive line, but real quick, just wanted 944 00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,160 Speaker 1: to give a shout out. I got two friends that 945 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,719 Speaker 1: listen to you guys all the time. They're in North Carolina. 946 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,440 Speaker 1: Bob and Patsy listen to you guys, love you, Thank 947 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,000 Speaker 1: you so much for your time and thanks for the show. Great. 948 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,319 Speaker 1: Yeah for you. Before you run, Mike, let me ask 949 00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,160 Speaker 1: you when you say offensive line, are you leaning tackle 950 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,760 Speaker 1: or guard there or center? Where are you right tackle? 951 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 1: To be honest, look, you know, I feel like, you know, 952 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:54,040 Speaker 1: Dawkins has solidified that left side. I think that right 953 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:57,000 Speaker 1: side is a little shaky, and uh, you know, there's 954 00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of good prospects. You know. 955 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,720 Speaker 1: Where I'm looking right now is I'm looking at somebody 956 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 1: like Darnell Wright, you know, somebody like that. Maybe Matthew 957 00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,360 Speaker 1: burs around in the second round, somebody like that. But 958 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:13,760 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, if you want to maybe 959 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,640 Speaker 1: jump up a little bit and grab one of these 960 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:19,000 Speaker 1: guys might be a good idea to protect their franchise. Yeah, 961 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 1: all right, good call, Mike, Thanks for it, appreciate it, 962 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:25,520 Speaker 1: and thanks for listening. Yeah, I mean I would lean 963 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:31,160 Speaker 1: tackle two because they've solidified the guard position in free agency, 964 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 1: Steve with David Edwards, you know, and Connor McGovern. They 965 00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:39,319 Speaker 1: bring Butcker back for depth, so and you have Bates 966 00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,880 Speaker 1: under contract, so you're kind of solidified the guard spot. 967 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,160 Speaker 1: And he brought in some competition as well. So, and 968 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,520 Speaker 1: I know you resigned David Questenberry, you know, but he's 969 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 1: a little longer in the tooth now. You could probably 970 00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:54,880 Speaker 1: use some youth in the pipeline there. I totally agree 971 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,719 Speaker 1: with it, and I've said it before too not I 972 00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 1: don't want to disparage one position over another, but if 973 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,120 Speaker 1: you've got to tackle, it's easier for a tackle to 974 00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,000 Speaker 1: move down inside and play guard than it is for 975 00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:09,960 Speaker 1: a guard to move out and play tackle. If you're 976 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,759 Speaker 1: big enough and long enough and have the link to 977 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,280 Speaker 1: play tackle, it's even easier to play guard because there's 978 00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 1: less space to work in down there. So not that saying, 979 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,760 Speaker 1: you know, automatically you can play guard if you're a tackle, 980 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,640 Speaker 1: but you can always it's easier to convert that direction. 981 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,480 Speaker 1: So I'm with him. I've always been you can't go 982 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 1: wrong drafting an offensive lineman, particularly if you get one 983 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,080 Speaker 1: that can really play. There's you got to have five 984 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,000 Speaker 1: of them on the field all the time, every snap, 985 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,800 Speaker 1: five of them. Almost half your offensive roster has to 986 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,760 Speaker 1: be offensive lineman. The better those guys are the ripple 987 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,959 Speaker 1: effect is real. As it gets out to the edges 988 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,480 Speaker 1: of the formation. They help everybody. The wide receivers have 989 00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 1: more time to get open. The quarterback stays upright and healthier. 990 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:59,320 Speaker 1: The running backs have more space. You know in crucial 991 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,040 Speaker 1: downs and yardage and goal line they don't they can 992 00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,080 Speaker 1: be dominant. There's just no it's just a no lose 993 00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,640 Speaker 1: situation for me. If you go offensive line always as 994 00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:12,480 Speaker 1: a fallback, right, And I would say if it's a fallback, 995 00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:14,520 Speaker 1: like if you look at a lot of people's top 996 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 1: one hundreds, you know that rank these players as far 997 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:24,360 Speaker 1: as offensive line goes, you're looking at about eight offensive 998 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:29,200 Speaker 1: tackles and about six guards five six guards. So that's 999 00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 1: fourteen players that you can choose from conceivably on the 1000 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,920 Speaker 1: first two days of the draft to help your offensive line. 1001 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:44,160 Speaker 1: So is it enormously plentiful. No, But there's some quality 1002 00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,000 Speaker 1: through there that can be had. You just got to 1003 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,000 Speaker 1: see if the value lines up when the bills are 1004 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,720 Speaker 1: on the clock. Be interesting. But I would lean tackle 1005 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,920 Speaker 1: more than guard because, as you not only because of 1006 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,920 Speaker 1: your point, but because they've already solidified guard in a 1007 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,479 Speaker 1: big way with free agency to this point. And here's 1008 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,640 Speaker 1: here's what you gotta do. You go down, you say 1009 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 1: there's fourteen offensive linemen, you know that that could go 1010 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,439 Speaker 1: high or first two days. First two days, you got 1011 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:17,040 Speaker 1: say there's four quarterbacks and maybe the probably five okay, 1012 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,800 Speaker 1: five qbs, and then it's really thin at wide out 1013 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,240 Speaker 1: for guys to go that are having first round grades, 1014 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,920 Speaker 1: maybe say just two or three, two and three, They 1015 00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna start populating there. But what I'm saying is 1016 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,560 Speaker 1: by the time you get down to pick number twenty seven, 1017 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,080 Speaker 1: oh okay, the thing that's gonna give you a chance 1018 00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,040 Speaker 1: at one of those offensive linemen is the fact that 1019 00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,840 Speaker 1: there's a bunch of edge rushers that are pretty good, 1020 00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,440 Speaker 1: and there's fourteen offensive linemen before you get down to 1021 00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,000 Speaker 1: where there's you know, maybe a drop off there all 1022 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,560 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. So you've got a chance at getting one 1023 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,640 Speaker 1: of those offensive linemen that are pretty good and maybe 1024 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 1: have some value at pick twenty seven, where you're not 1025 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,160 Speaker 1: getting a guy at twenty seven that you could have 1026 00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,840 Speaker 1: gotten if you were picking thirty eight. Right, Just I know, 1027 00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 1: and I know Kendall writes, your guy, I like him too, 1028 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,320 Speaker 1: and I'd be over the moon if they could get him. 1029 01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Now everybody's on my train. I just worry about all 1030 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,400 Speaker 1: the like the hype on him is going through the roof. Now, 1031 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,440 Speaker 1: thank you, I started that trend. Oh you did. I'm 1032 01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,640 Speaker 1: pretty sure I did. Okay, Naw, you said we were, 1033 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:18,040 Speaker 1: Now I'm sure, I'm sure. Well that's right. So I'm 1034 01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,640 Speaker 1: sure the thirty two personnel office was nothing to do 1035 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,240 Speaker 1: with it. Go I was on him two weeks ago. 1036 01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:26,080 Speaker 1: Now we have no chance in twenty seven now, right, 1037 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,880 Speaker 1: I'm worried that we don't. I'm worried that we maybe, 1038 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,200 Speaker 1: but you know, maybe that prompts another famous you know, 1039 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 1: big baller being moved up the board. There two or 1040 01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 1: three spots, maybe two or three spot, that's all they 1041 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,080 Speaker 1: can move. You may have to get ahead of Jacksonville 1042 01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,360 Speaker 1: at twenty four to get him because they need to 1043 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:45,160 Speaker 1: tackle badly after losing Juan Taylor, who's a starter for them. Right. Um, 1044 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,560 Speaker 1: let's go back to the phones, though, and we go 1045 01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,520 Speaker 1: to Mark in New Jersey. As we're asking today what 1046 01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:54,080 Speaker 1: position can't be absent from Buffalo's twenty twenty three draft class. 1047 01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,760 Speaker 1: What do you got, Mark Low hanging fruits as receiver 1048 01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,360 Speaker 1: you can't have. You know, well, he's no longer on 1049 01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:05,520 Speaker 1: the roster. Isaiah McKenzie on Twitter, You know, advocating for 1050 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,479 Speaker 1: you veterans to take his job, or just basically giving 1051 01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,720 Speaker 1: his job away, or going on a live podcast on 1052 01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,560 Speaker 1: a stage and kind of whimsically laughing off mistakes like 1053 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,880 Speaker 1: you used to with a certain former Bills reporter. I'm 1054 01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:23,080 Speaker 1: sure that went over well. Corner corner is another one. 1055 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,920 Speaker 1: I mean, what was it by halftime in the Miami game, 1056 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,280 Speaker 1: which was week three, he had Dane with his neck 1057 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:32,560 Speaker 1: nearly taken off by Tremaine Edmonds a week before Benford 1058 01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,800 Speaker 1: broke his hand before half. You're lining up JaMarcus Ingram 1059 01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:39,000 Speaker 1: over Tyreek Hill. The class is too deep, it's too good, 1060 01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,959 Speaker 1: and I think they half, I mean, they would behove 1061 01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,919 Speaker 1: them to not come away with one corner in this draft. Yeah, 1062 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,120 Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. Take Mark, thanks for 1063 01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,600 Speaker 1: the call. You're right. I was waiting to see how 1064 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,080 Speaker 1: long it was going to be before somebody did mention corner. 1065 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:56,480 Speaker 1: For the two reasons that he brought up one, it's 1066 01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,800 Speaker 1: a class. You're close to being thin on this roster. 1067 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,760 Speaker 1: Corner you're you're not too far away to his point. 1068 01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:04,840 Speaker 1: You have a cup, you have an injury or two. 1069 01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,080 Speaker 1: You know, you got issues. You got I mean you 1070 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:10,800 Speaker 1: have Dane who you resigned, you know as a restricted 1071 01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:15,920 Speaker 1: free agent. You got Kaier, you got True Davious. And 1072 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,160 Speaker 1: then what are you doing with Benford? We don't know yet. 1073 01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,960 Speaker 1: And then Tarn and then siran Neil, who's our special 1074 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,640 Speaker 1: teamer here? You know? And in trench special teamer can 1075 01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,880 Speaker 1: fill in and a pinch in corner at corner, but 1076 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:32,960 Speaker 1: you need another guy. And this class, like everybody's been 1077 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,440 Speaker 1: raving about the tight end class, the corner class is 1078 01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,680 Speaker 1: right there with them, really deep, like you could get 1079 01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:42,280 Speaker 1: a good corner early on day three. And I think 1080 01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:49,480 Speaker 1: this thing too, people, I view the cornerback position a 1081 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:53,240 Speaker 1: little differently. When you sign guys at corner position, then 1082 01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,160 Speaker 1: you do then I do at offensive line, and offensive 1083 01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:56,960 Speaker 1: line say well, there's a depth piece there, there's a 1084 01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,760 Speaker 1: depth at corner. You're always looking for a guy to 1085 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,680 Speaker 1: plug in up at the top rather than like, oh, 1086 01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,560 Speaker 1: he's a depth apiece kind of thing. He's you know, 1087 01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,400 Speaker 1: you maybe get a special teams guy there once in 1088 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,479 Speaker 1: a while, But at corner, particularly in the draft, there's 1089 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,960 Speaker 1: always this aura about, hey, this guy's got a chance 1090 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:15,560 Speaker 1: to be to start for us, or to be in 1091 01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:19,640 Speaker 1: the mix for us. You're right, it's different than any 1092 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:25,000 Speaker 1: other position. For that reason is that you draft a 1093 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,000 Speaker 1: guy at say the Bills take a guy at twenty 1094 01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,080 Speaker 1: seven like this, like a Deonte Banks from Maryland or somebody, 1095 01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,120 Speaker 1: and it's like, all of a sudden, it's like, wow, okay, 1096 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,000 Speaker 1: here we go, you know, because you get a guy 1097 01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,080 Speaker 1: like Christian Benford who comes in and all of a 1098 01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,520 Speaker 1: sudden the system fits him. He's got these measurables, he's big, dude. 1099 01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,520 Speaker 1: It's like, wow, this guy can play. There's always that 1100 01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,960 Speaker 1: thought at the cornerback where it's awesome because you can 1101 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:47,920 Speaker 1: plug a guy in at the top of the rotation 1102 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,480 Speaker 1: at that spot, rather than just plugging a guy in 1103 01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:52,439 Speaker 1: and say, well, he may come in on some third 1104 01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 1: downs or some specialist you know, or he's depth, or 1105 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,280 Speaker 1: he's gonna play cover kicks or something. There's there isn't 1106 01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:01,080 Speaker 1: that thought when you talk start talking about corners, particularly 1107 01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:05,520 Speaker 1: in this draft, right and I'm just looking and a 1108 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:09,840 Speaker 1: lot of times I reference Dane Brugler's Draft guide which 1109 01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:13,280 Speaker 1: is maybe one of the more comprehensive ones out there. 1110 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:19,480 Speaker 1: And he's got eighteen corners with grades in the first 1111 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:26,360 Speaker 1: four rounds. Twelve of the eighteen are six feet or taller. Yeah, yeah, 1112 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:32,200 Speaker 1: See McDermott loves that. They love length, They love length 1113 01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:37,320 Speaker 1: at their corner spot. What they got elam Well right 1114 01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:42,320 Speaker 1: and Benford two. So I mean it is a deep class. 1115 01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:46,000 Speaker 1: I mean, even if you go down to the sixth round, 1116 01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:53,240 Speaker 1: you got another ten guys that could go, and it's 1117 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,840 Speaker 1: a deep, deep group, Like you could wait until late 1118 01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,840 Speaker 1: day two, even early day three and you could get 1119 01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:03,840 Speaker 1: a player that might be good enough to be your 1120 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:07,080 Speaker 1: fourth corner like out of the shoot right guy, right 1121 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:08,960 Speaker 1: out of the rapper, first guy on the field after 1122 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,040 Speaker 1: an injury or yeah whatever rotation. So that's how good 1123 01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:16,320 Speaker 1: this corner class is. So you know, it's not a 1124 01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:21,520 Speaker 1: screaming need maybe like linebacker for the Bills or you know, 1125 01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:27,280 Speaker 1: adding a weapon at receiver or tight end, but you 1126 01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,520 Speaker 1: don't want to come out of this draft class without one, 1127 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,600 Speaker 1: and knowing you can wait on one and still get 1128 01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,880 Speaker 1: a decent way makes sense. It just makes sense that 1129 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:42,440 Speaker 1: might be your first or even your one thirty pick yeah, 1130 01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:47,360 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's not it's not outlandish to think 1131 01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:51,120 Speaker 1: that way, you know. I know Christian Benford bent the 1132 01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,440 Speaker 1: rules for everybody last year because now everybody's thinking, well, 1133 01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:58,400 Speaker 1: you can get a starter, seventh round, sixth round, you 1134 01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,280 Speaker 1: can get a guy to play right on we one 1135 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,680 Speaker 1: day one, let's go, you know, and they kind of 1136 01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,480 Speaker 1: raises the expectations for what that guy's capable of in 1137 01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:08,200 Speaker 1: that spot rather than you know, two years ago before. 1138 01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:11,160 Speaker 1: Christian benevers like, ah, well it's a throwaway, you know, 1139 01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:12,720 Speaker 1: like we had, we had one of our callers, it 1140 01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:16,000 Speaker 1: is like, just package the sixes, the fives and sixes 1141 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,520 Speaker 1: and get move up because you can't get a guy 1142 01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:20,600 Speaker 1: to make the team anyway. Back there. The funny thing 1143 01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,880 Speaker 1: about that caller who was our first of the day, Jeff, 1144 01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:26,400 Speaker 1: was he was saying that he thought they should package 1145 01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:27,959 Speaker 1: some of those picks who may not make the roster 1146 01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,200 Speaker 1: anyway and move up on the board to get a 1147 01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:33,360 Speaker 1: guy who really covered. And then he said, and address 1148 01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:35,959 Speaker 1: those top four needs. It's like, well, hold on a second, 1149 01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,840 Speaker 1: we only got six picks. I mean, I think they 1150 01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,919 Speaker 1: are going to backfill with a lot of undrafted free 1151 01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:46,240 Speaker 1: agent signings. This year because they need bodies for the 1152 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:49,800 Speaker 1: offseason roster. Like you're gonna see a fat number of 1153 01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:53,400 Speaker 1: undrafteds this year because they only have six picks right now. Yeah, 1154 01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,360 Speaker 1: they'll get some guys after the draft that will have 1155 01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:00,200 Speaker 1: some measurables and have a chip on their shoe old 1156 01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:04,480 Speaker 1: and you know, the thought is certainly they have to 1157 01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:06,400 Speaker 1: fill out their roster and get enough guys to go 1158 01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,080 Speaker 1: to training camp with and all that. But the thought 1159 01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,560 Speaker 1: is there there. They've got their eye on guys who 1160 01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,840 Speaker 1: they hope are available after the draft, because you know, 1161 01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:18,160 Speaker 1: the Bills have in this draft six picks. I mean 1162 01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:22,439 Speaker 1: they're going to have their eyes on fifty guys to 1163 01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,360 Speaker 1: call up and say, hey, will you sign with us 1164 01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:30,840 Speaker 1: for training camp? Literally fifty and they'll probably get eight. Well, 1165 01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,640 Speaker 1: you're competing with thirty one other right all at the 1166 01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:35,760 Speaker 1: same time, and they'll want fifty of them. But that's 1167 01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:37,280 Speaker 1: you know, they just don't have a chance to do that. 1168 01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:40,880 Speaker 1: Let's go to the tweet sheet, which, as you know, 1169 01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,360 Speaker 1: is brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official 1170 01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:47,200 Speaker 1: equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. What position cannot 1171 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:51,560 Speaker 1: be absent from Buffalo's twenty twenty three draft class. Jake says, 1172 01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:55,440 Speaker 1: defensive tackle you use for and our endy under contract 1173 01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,120 Speaker 1: beyond this season. The answer would be no, So yes, 1174 01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,240 Speaker 1: we've covered that ground. Edward on the tweet sheet says, 1175 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:07,880 Speaker 1: big nasty, drooling, pancake making offensive lineman. I think anybody 1176 01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,160 Speaker 1: would take an offensive line with a little nasty in him. 1177 01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,480 Speaker 1: That's why Steve likes darniell writes so much. There is 1178 01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:17,200 Speaker 1: a play on his highlight reel where he basically deposits 1179 01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:21,160 Speaker 1: a defender three yards deep in the end zone. Our 1180 01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:23,120 Speaker 1: MSG viewers are going to get a look at it 1181 01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:28,640 Speaker 1: as we run the highlight reel now, but he absolutely 1182 01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:32,519 Speaker 1: forklifts a guy and throws him into the end zone 1183 01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:37,639 Speaker 1: as his running back calmly follows untouched and gets there. 1184 01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,640 Speaker 1: This is the play here for our MSG viewers. Just 1185 01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,280 Speaker 1: throws a shoulder at him and the guy the first 1186 01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,760 Speaker 1: thing he lands on are his shoulder blades. Now that 1187 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:48,360 Speaker 1: was a safety in fairness, but still yeah the guy. Yeah, 1188 01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,439 Speaker 1: he throws the guy into the marching band. So did 1189 01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:56,040 Speaker 1: you love that stuff? And there's been guys here over 1190 01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:57,960 Speaker 1: the last handful of years. Pencer Brown was like this 1191 01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,479 Speaker 1: even in his first year. Certainly John flice gana when 1192 01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:01,880 Speaker 1: he was here as a free agent before he went 1193 01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:03,320 Speaker 1: to the You know, we lost him to the Giants 1194 01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:05,840 Speaker 1: last year. You need those and I've told Brownie this 1195 01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,800 Speaker 1: a lot. You need a handful of guys on your 1196 01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:12,160 Speaker 1: team that want to be in the middle of it 1197 01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,160 Speaker 1: all the time. They want to be they want to 1198 01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:16,160 Speaker 1: be the guy that the middle of conflict. Yes, they 1199 01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 1: want to be the guy that the other teams shoving 1200 01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:22,120 Speaker 1: out of anger because every play they yes, they love it. 1201 01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,479 Speaker 1: You need a bunch of those guys so that they 1202 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,280 Speaker 1: can take the focus off guys who are concentrating on 1203 01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,120 Speaker 1: the nuts and bolts of the offense. You know that 1204 01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:33,639 Speaker 1: you need you need some of those guys. This guy, 1205 01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:35,360 Speaker 1: Darnell Wright has a little bit of that in him, 1206 01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,200 Speaker 1: or at least he appears to from right here, right 1207 01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:43,080 Speaker 1: now on the tweet sheet RB Bijean. There is a 1208 01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:46,360 Speaker 1: fascination with Bijean, Robinson, Steve and it goes beyond the 1209 01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:50,160 Speaker 1: Draftnicks who were mocking him to the Bills at twenty seven. 1210 01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:54,400 Speaker 1: In the early going, there there is a legion, maybe 1211 01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,920 Speaker 1: that's a strong word. There is a smattering of Bills 1212 01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:01,880 Speaker 1: fans that are equally enamored with Bijean Robinson. So I 1213 01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:06,439 Speaker 1: get it. He's a fantastic talent, but there are to me, 1214 01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:10,000 Speaker 1: there are more pressing positional needs for this football team 1215 01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,759 Speaker 1: than there And I have said this all along too. 1216 01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:18,599 Speaker 1: If Bijon Robinson gets to twenty seven, you'll be able 1217 01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:20,880 Speaker 1: to knock me over with a feather. There is no 1218 01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,080 Speaker 1: way that is happening. He is too good a talent, 1219 01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:28,000 Speaker 1: even at a devalued position like running back. He might. Yeah, 1220 01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:32,479 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here thinking, you know, I hope Washington takes 1221 01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:34,840 Speaker 1: him at sixteen, or you know you don't want him 1222 01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:36,559 Speaker 1: as an option. I don't want him as an option 1223 01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:40,000 Speaker 1: because you know then you're gonna get then, you and I. 1224 01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:43,040 Speaker 1: And it's selfish that I say. They're worried about phone calls. Yes, 1225 01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:46,360 Speaker 1: we'll get phone calls. Steven doesn't care about how the 1226 01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:53,600 Speaker 1: roster is impacted. My dad will call. You're more concerned 1227 01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:57,600 Speaker 1: about it. Who's gonna be calling us after that? I 1228 01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,920 Speaker 1: love how selfish you are right now. It is I 1229 01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:05,880 Speaker 1: admit it that sounds standing. Oh my god, you're killing it. 1230 01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:12,960 Speaker 1: You don't want and yeah, exactly, So he's a I 1231 01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,719 Speaker 1: think he's a really good player. He's a really good player. 1232 01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,000 Speaker 1: He's gonna he's got a chance of being one of 1233 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:19,880 Speaker 1: those running backs that gets taken in the first round 1234 01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,400 Speaker 1: because of his talent and a team that's gonna show 1235 01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:25,800 Speaker 1: up with a need and like you said it or 1236 01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,200 Speaker 1: a team without a need, it's a luxury pick, like Philly. 1237 01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,080 Speaker 1: I think, well, it's not a luxury pick. They do 1238 01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,200 Speaker 1: have a hole there, but they have two first round picks, 1239 01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:33,960 Speaker 1: I think is the point that you're making. Yeah, so 1240 01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:38,439 Speaker 1: they pick at ten and thirty, right, all of that 1241 01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:42,400 Speaker 1: stuff is on the table um and you know, as 1242 01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,519 Speaker 1: quirky as it's been over the last few years, you 1243 01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:46,720 Speaker 1: could see the New England Patriots doing that. Well, we 1244 01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:50,800 Speaker 1: had you know, we had our guest on earlier this week, 1245 01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:54,439 Speaker 1: mister baumb Gardner who covers the Lions, and he was 1246 01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:57,719 Speaker 1: mocking Bijan to them at eighteen with their second first 1247 01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:00,800 Speaker 1: round to the Chargers, who they can't get a deal 1248 01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,120 Speaker 1: done with Eckler. Yeah, they could pop him in right, 1249 01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:06,840 Speaker 1: plug him right in and upgrade, you know, instead of 1250 01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,720 Speaker 1: and then move Eckler for a bag of peanuts, right exactly, 1251 01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,240 Speaker 1: because suddenly he's expendable. There is a chance that b 1252 01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,680 Speaker 1: Jean Robinson is not there at twenty seven when the 1253 01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:18,920 Speaker 1: Bills pick. I don't think that position, because of the 1254 01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,200 Speaker 1: nature of it, that the Bills would ever flip up 1255 01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:24,920 Speaker 1: a couple of spots to get him. There might be 1256 01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:26,720 Speaker 1: some players in this draft that they would do that for. 1257 01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,120 Speaker 1: I doubt that running back is a position they would 1258 01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,840 Speaker 1: do that for. So I think if it's twenty seven, 1259 01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:38,720 Speaker 1: it's gonna be twenty seven. Yeah, how many times he 1260 01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:42,559 Speaker 1: don't want those phone calls? He's been mocked to the Bills. Well, 1261 01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:44,800 Speaker 1: in the early going he was. It's less so now 1262 01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:47,840 Speaker 1: but still, Yeah, you're right. Tim on the tweet sheet 1263 01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:51,720 Speaker 1: says linebacker needs to be priority number one, followed by 1264 01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:55,960 Speaker 1: old line, receiver, d tackle, defensive back unless Jackson Smith 1265 01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,080 Speaker 1: and jigbe is on the board at twenty three, no 1266 01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:01,439 Speaker 1: trade up, trade back and pick up an extra pick. 1267 01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:05,880 Speaker 1: I'm okay with that tradeback thing. Yeah, I don't mind it. 1268 01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:09,120 Speaker 1: I twenty seventh. I mean it's you know, you're gonna 1269 01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:12,439 Speaker 1: get a good player at twenty seven. The value is 1270 01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:16,960 Speaker 1: hard to gauge For me as a you know, draft amateur, 1271 01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,960 Speaker 1: it's hard to get Like, Okay, the twenty seventh. How 1272 01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,679 Speaker 1: much better is the twenty seventh pick than the thirty 1273 01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,920 Speaker 1: fifth pick? You know, well, that depends on how many 1274 01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,040 Speaker 1: guys you have with grades in that area. If you 1275 01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:32,200 Speaker 1: have fourteen, well then okay, slide back and you're sitting 1276 01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,479 Speaker 1: not just the twenty seventh to the thirty fifth, it's 1277 01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:36,760 Speaker 1: also the twenty seven to the thirty pick, plus the 1278 01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:39,320 Speaker 1: fiftieth pick that you get in return as well for 1279 01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:42,720 Speaker 1: moving back. So it's both those players, and it's both 1280 01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:48,800 Speaker 1: of those ship point. It's hard to gauge. And I like, 1281 01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,800 Speaker 1: like I've said a million times, you want more pick 1282 01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,559 Speaker 1: a mini pick as you get, even if they're fourth, fifth, sixth, 1283 01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:58,680 Speaker 1: and seventh rounders. Those picks, you know, even if you've 1284 01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:00,720 Speaker 1: got a ton of those, there's going to be some 1285 01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:06,599 Speaker 1: gems in there, I think. So I love the fact 1286 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:08,280 Speaker 1: that you could trade back. I don't love it, but 1287 01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:11,040 Speaker 1: I think it's I'm okay with it. Yeah, And we've 1288 01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:13,840 Speaker 1: heard a lot of the draft experts say that the 1289 01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,719 Speaker 1: meat and potatoes of this draft is round two and three, 1290 01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:20,439 Speaker 1: like that's where a lot of the value sits. Because 1291 01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:23,920 Speaker 1: we've heard at a lot of the positions there isn't 1292 01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:29,360 Speaker 1: consensus top flight people you know, receivers. One example of 1293 01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:34,120 Speaker 1: that defensive tackle has like one alpha male Jalen Carter, 1294 01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:36,840 Speaker 1: and then you know it's Brian Berzi and the bunch 1295 01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:40,559 Speaker 1: of guys after that, with varying opinions on all of them. 1296 01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:45,840 Speaker 1: And because of that, you have a better chance of 1297 01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:52,320 Speaker 1: being more right in your assessment on guys day two 1298 01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:58,639 Speaker 1: early day three, because they fit the value better than 1299 01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:00,320 Speaker 1: some guys that are going to go in the first round. 1300 01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,920 Speaker 1: Then maybe in a deeper year, probably wouldn't be a 1301 01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:05,400 Speaker 1: first yeah pick, you know what I mean, you're and 1302 01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:09,000 Speaker 1: it's hard to do because you're measuring this young player 1303 01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:11,040 Speaker 1: that you don't know out of college to a guy 1304 01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:13,240 Speaker 1: that came out two years ago that's where he was, 1305 01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:15,720 Speaker 1: and that he's a good player, and this guy is 1306 01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:17,559 Speaker 1: not as good as him, but he got you know, 1307 01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:22,519 Speaker 1: it's hard to make that mental jump and value these 1308 01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:26,760 Speaker 1: guys correctly. But when you when you're as good at 1309 01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:30,040 Speaker 1: it as the Bills have been, certainly you can get 1310 01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:33,160 Speaker 1: backed into a corner where okay, you can't trade out nobody, 1311 01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,679 Speaker 1: or that you can't trade out for the right price 1312 01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:39,360 Speaker 1: and just end up having to take somebody you don't 1313 01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:42,000 Speaker 1: want to be in that spot. You don't want to 1314 01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:43,960 Speaker 1: be in that spot where you have to take a 1315 01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:45,639 Speaker 1: guy where you thought you might be able to get 1316 01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:47,680 Speaker 1: him in the forties, Yeah, and you got to take 1317 01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,519 Speaker 1: him in the twenties. We are going to take a 1318 01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:53,400 Speaker 1: break here. When we come back, we'll finish up some 1319 01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:55,320 Speaker 1: of the final thoughts on the tweet sheet, and we're 1320 01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:59,000 Speaker 1: gonna have a little role reversal. I'm usually firing off 1321 01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:03,200 Speaker 1: questions at Steve, challenging his brain. Steve's gonna throw some 1322 01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:05,760 Speaker 1: at me. We'll tell you how when we return here 1323 01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:07,760 Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health, It's 1324 01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:24,080 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, there, we are our final 1325 01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:26,600 Speaker 1: half hour on a Wednesday, Chris Brown, Steve's tasking with you. 1326 01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:28,680 Speaker 1: Thought we'd have a little bit of a role reversal 1327 01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:32,639 Speaker 1: game here today. Usually I am the one peppering Steve 1328 01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:36,120 Speaker 1: to come up with answers to various questions, whether it's 1329 01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:38,559 Speaker 1: our old tasker's teammates segment where he's trying to guess 1330 01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:41,800 Speaker 1: what teammate I'm describing, or the numbers game that we 1331 01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,679 Speaker 1: play every week on our podcast, Bills by the Numbers. 1332 01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:50,519 Speaker 1: Steve is going to ask me questions about Bills players, 1333 01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:54,760 Speaker 1: current former coaches as well. I believe in a game 1334 01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:56,759 Speaker 1: that you can actually pick up at the bill store. 1335 01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,719 Speaker 1: It's called Who's the Man, and it's just a trivia 1336 01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:03,880 Speaker 1: car game. It's really frustrating too, because Brownie's really good 1337 01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:07,800 Speaker 1: at it. I'm okay, and I'm trying. I hand picked 1338 01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:09,680 Speaker 1: like I got like, I got five of these here, 1339 01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:12,280 Speaker 1: probably the hardest ones you can find. I just pulled 1340 01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:16,200 Speaker 1: them out and I'm sure it's completely at random. It's 1341 01:17:16,200 --> 01:17:17,600 Speaker 1: not bad, but I didn't want to get like so 1342 01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:20,000 Speaker 1: just to play it out. Each card has what four 1343 01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:22,960 Speaker 1: goes five clues and they go from five points down 1344 01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:25,000 Speaker 1: to one point. The sooner you get it, the more 1345 01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:27,120 Speaker 1: points right exactly, So here it is. So here's the 1346 01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:29,559 Speaker 1: Who's the Man? Who's the Man? Brownie? He was an 1347 01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:32,160 Speaker 1: all state performer as a senior at Ensley High School 1348 01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:35,040 Speaker 1: in Birmingham, Alabama. He rushed for over a thousand yards 1349 01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:38,400 Speaker 1: on one hundred and one carries in high school. In 1350 01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:42,040 Speaker 1: high school over a thousand yards in Alabama. Is it 1351 01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:45,840 Speaker 1: Joe Cribbs? It is not selected in the first round 1352 01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:49,040 Speaker 1: of the eighty seven NFL Draft by the Colts. Oh, 1353 01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:53,759 Speaker 1: crumb Buns the Colts. Yeah, in the eighty seven draft, 1354 01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:59,240 Speaker 1: So it's got to be a running back. Who the 1355 01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:01,719 Speaker 1: heck did they take in eighty seven? I have no idea. 1356 01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,680 Speaker 1: Next appeared in four Super Bowls with the Bills and 1357 01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:10,040 Speaker 1: one with the Falcons. Uh? Is that Cornelius Benness? It 1358 01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:14,559 Speaker 1: is Cornie's bene Gosh, he's Bennett Biscuit. Hey threw me 1359 01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:19,679 Speaker 1: off with the running back. Here's another one, Sunie running 1360 01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:24,080 Speaker 1: back Brownie? Who's the man? Attended Glades Glades Central High 1361 01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,479 Speaker 1: School in Florida, where he played football, basketball, and ran 1362 01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:31,280 Speaker 1: track like every other NFL player. Glade Central High School 1363 01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:38,840 Speaker 1: in Florida, um Roscoe Parrish No. Next one. As a 1364 01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:43,080 Speaker 1: sophomore in college, he caught Jamis Winston's game winning touchdown 1365 01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:46,760 Speaker 1: pass against Auburn with thirteen seconds left. Kelvin Benjamin, that's right, 1366 01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:50,720 Speaker 1: Calvin Benjaman is correct. Very nice. You're unbelievable. I have 1367 01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,559 Speaker 1: no idea. Okay, Hey, who's the man? Brownie? He scored 1368 01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:59,440 Speaker 1: fifty seven touchdowns during his nine year NFL career. Fifty 1369 01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:06,599 Speaker 1: seven touchdowns ninety year career. Pete mets Lars wrong in 1370 01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,640 Speaker 1: Week four in Week four of his rookie season. He 1371 01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:12,080 Speaker 1: rushed for one hundred and twenty nine yards three touchdowns 1372 01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:15,679 Speaker 1: against the Colts, including an electrifying fifty four yard game 1373 01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,600 Speaker 1: clincher week four of his rookie season. Antoine Smith, that 1374 01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:23,680 Speaker 1: is correct. Gosh, that's amazing, all right, Tom's he's been 1375 01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:25,720 Speaker 1: waiting a long time to give me the buzzard. I know, 1376 01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:29,080 Speaker 1: I love me. Just say I'm enjoying it, all right. 1377 01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:34,559 Speaker 1: Who's Brownie? Who's the man? This man was hired by 1378 01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:37,240 Speaker 1: the Bills to a front office spot in January of 1379 01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:42,280 Speaker 1: two thousand and six. That's Marv Leah, that's unbelievable. You 1380 01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:45,880 Speaker 1: would get that. I was here for it. I should 1381 01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,160 Speaker 1: remember that last one. Here we go. This is the 1382 01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,559 Speaker 1: last one. Well, I can get another one too, though, 1383 01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:55,040 Speaker 1: um I might. Oh, I'm putting these in the wrong backwards. Shoot, 1384 01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:58,479 Speaker 1: I had my all right here anyway, Brownie, who's the man? 1385 01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:03,160 Speaker 1: A nineteen event All States selection as a quarterback at 1386 01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:10,960 Speaker 1: America's High School in Georgia. So nineteen seventy in high school, 1387 01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,880 Speaker 1: you said, so, that means he's in the NFL in 1388 01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:20,000 Speaker 1: like the mid seventies. It's not Ferguson because he's from Arkansas. 1389 01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:24,799 Speaker 1: That was a high school in Georgian. Oh, high school 1390 01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:27,560 Speaker 1: in Georgia? Is it Joe Ferguson, No, it's not, you 1391 01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:33,400 Speaker 1: miss leg. Next, who's the man quarterback and a three 1392 01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:38,679 Speaker 1: year letterman at Florida? Quarterback in a three year letterman 1393 01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:41,040 Speaker 1: at the University of Florida. So he's there in the seventies. 1394 01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,080 Speaker 1: The only person I can think of is Steve Spurrier. 1395 01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:49,519 Speaker 1: But that's not right. Um, he must not have played 1396 01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:55,680 Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL. That's the thing. So Georgia, Florida. 1397 01:20:56,240 --> 01:21:01,600 Speaker 1: Who's from Florida that plays for the Bills? Um, I 1398 01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:05,519 Speaker 1: don't know. Next one. He was hired to his first 1399 01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:08,960 Speaker 1: NFL job by the Broncos in nineteen eighty five, signing 1400 01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:12,120 Speaker 1: to coach tight ends and special teams. Oh so he 1401 01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:19,320 Speaker 1: didn't even have an NFL career. It's a coach Florida 1402 01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:24,000 Speaker 1: tight ends coach Crum. I'm blanking. This is the furthest 1403 01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:26,639 Speaker 1: I've ever seen. I'm blanking. Here we go. He won 1404 01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:30,000 Speaker 1: four consecutive AFC Central titles with the Steelers from ninety 1405 01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,320 Speaker 1: four to ninety seven, first as a wide receivers coach, 1406 01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:36,000 Speaker 1: then as offensive coordinator and this guy played for the 1407 01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:41,559 Speaker 1: Billet seven. Man, I'm struggling. I'm not I don't even 1408 01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:43,640 Speaker 1: have a thought. It's like I don't even have a 1409 01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:48,479 Speaker 1: guest for one point. Brownie, former head coach of the 1410 01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:51,519 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys in Georgia Tech yellow Jackets, took the same 1411 01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:55,920 Speaker 1: role with the Bills in two thousan ten chan Gill. Wow, 1412 01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:59,920 Speaker 1: that was a good one. Yeah, that was a good Wow. 1413 01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,840 Speaker 1: That was a very good one. All right, here's last one. 1414 01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:05,280 Speaker 1: He was a quarterback in high school high Well, he's 1415 01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:09,160 Speaker 1: a quarterback in Florida too for three years. You know, 1416 01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:12,840 Speaker 1: I misheard you because I knew his hometown was Americus, 1417 01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:17,040 Speaker 1: but I heard America high school. I didn't hear Americus, 1418 01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:20,120 Speaker 1: and I actually am I knew what his hometown. Dang, 1419 01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:23,559 Speaker 1: all right, that stinks. Here we go. Who's the man? Brownie? 1420 01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:26,479 Speaker 1: He caught ten passes for two hundred and fifty five 1421 01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,639 Speaker 1: yards and four touchdowns in his fourth game as a pro. 1422 01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:35,000 Speaker 1: Ten catches for how much two fifty five in his 1423 01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:39,559 Speaker 1: fourth game? Is that? Jerry Butler? Oh my gosh, that's correct. 1424 01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:45,400 Speaker 1: That is unbelievable. Remaining don't give me one more. You're mad? 1425 01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:50,599 Speaker 1: I got that so fast. Now, this this is an East, 1426 01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:53,240 Speaker 1: I hate one, I get pick another one. No started 1427 01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:55,360 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty three games over twelve seasons with 1428 01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:58,479 Speaker 1: the Bills, started one hundred and sixty three games. So 1429 01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:01,479 Speaker 1: we got to think about the guys that played the longest, 1430 01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:09,480 Speaker 1: is it Andre? Nope, succeeded, thank you, succeeded Terry Bradshaw 1431 01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:13,439 Speaker 1: as starting quarterback at Woodlawn High School, leading the Knights 1432 01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:18,439 Speaker 1: to the Louisiana State championship in nineteen sixty eight. Well, 1433 01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:20,960 Speaker 1: that would line up with Joe Ferguson, right, That is correct, 1434 01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:24,800 Speaker 1: Joe first, all right, Last one, Brownie, last one? Who's 1435 01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:28,520 Speaker 1: the man, Brownie? Who's the man born and raised in Pittsburgh, 1436 01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:32,479 Speaker 1: the suburb at the Pittsburgh suburb of Mount Lebanon, born 1437 01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:35,200 Speaker 1: and raised in Mount Lebanon, Pennsylvania. That would be Mark 1438 01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:41,080 Speaker 1: Kelso it is not grandson of longtime Pittsburgh mayor Pennsylvania 1439 01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:46,080 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania governor Don Tom Donahoe. You are correct, sir, That away, Brownie. 1440 01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:49,800 Speaker 1: The coaches in the coaches in the GMS is what 1441 01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:53,040 Speaker 1: throws you because you're thinking player, player players, So when 1442 01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:54,720 Speaker 1: you get them, when they tell you about their high 1443 01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:57,520 Speaker 1: school career and they're playing quarterback when they played linebacker 1444 01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:00,120 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Yeah that Biscuits. Yeah, like Biscuit was 1445 01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,720 Speaker 1: playing running back. Man, I wouldn't want to see him 1446 01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:05,919 Speaker 1: with a ball coming, dude, can you oh? Can you imagine? 1447 01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:10,759 Speaker 1: That would be unbelievable. Let's get back to the tweet 1448 01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:13,519 Speaker 1: sheet for some final thoughts from you on what position 1449 01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:18,439 Speaker 1: can't be absent from Buffalo's twenty twenty three draft class, 1450 01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:23,840 Speaker 1: and Jess says offensive line project protecting Josh has to 1451 01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:27,400 Speaker 1: be the top priority. That is valid. Jeremy says the 1452 01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:31,320 Speaker 1: same thing too. He says, first round O lineman. Let's 1453 01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:34,439 Speaker 1: not forget how the season ended. Steve has often said, 1454 01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:37,799 Speaker 1: your last game points out your weakness. This was clearly 1455 01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,439 Speaker 1: a factor. O line, O line, oh line. You know 1456 01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:43,240 Speaker 1: who says that? Brandon does? Brandon Been says that a 1457 01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:45,080 Speaker 1: lot I don't know at the end when he does 1458 01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:48,559 Speaker 1: his season wrap up press conference, says, very often, where 1459 01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:51,280 Speaker 1: you're lacking in your last game is very telling as 1460 01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:54,439 Speaker 1: to where you should address things going into the next year. 1461 01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:56,960 Speaker 1: The reason for well, particularly if you're in the playoffs, 1462 01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:59,120 Speaker 1: that may be a lot more true than it is 1463 01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:02,800 Speaker 1: just a regular season and last game, because in the 1464 01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,320 Speaker 1: playoffs you're meeting a team that's a little more well rounded, 1465 01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:07,760 Speaker 1: a little deeper as everybody's playing at a high level, 1466 01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:09,280 Speaker 1: and when you get to the playoffs, so if you're 1467 01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:12,880 Speaker 1: deficient somewhere, it shows up. And that's what happens once 1468 01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:15,519 Speaker 1: in a while. You and I both know, we both 1469 01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:18,360 Speaker 1: believe that the end of the Bill season this last 1470 01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:23,240 Speaker 1: year had very little to do with their roster. Well, right, 1471 01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:27,720 Speaker 1: there were some extenuating circumstances, the Jamar Hamlet situation. How 1472 01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:33,240 Speaker 1: that affected the mental right preparation and the focus necessary 1473 01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:35,040 Speaker 1: to play let alone, to be up for a game 1474 01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:38,559 Speaker 1: like that, especially against the Bengals team where the incident 1475 01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:41,080 Speaker 1: was against the team that the incident happened against, right, 1476 01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:44,760 Speaker 1: three weeks earlier. Yeah, these guys were flashing back big time. 1477 01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:47,280 Speaker 1: And think about the mental even the two games before that, 1478 01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:50,760 Speaker 1: between the Monday night game and the playoff game where 1479 01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:53,960 Speaker 1: they in the Bengals game, there were two games in there. 1480 01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:58,520 Speaker 1: Those two games were against two teams that were hobbled, 1481 01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:04,920 Speaker 1: Patriots who were offensively inept, and they had and the 1482 01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:08,479 Speaker 1: Bills beat him with two kickoff returns. Yeah, so their 1483 01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:10,559 Speaker 1: offense still didn't show up in that game, even though 1484 01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:13,360 Speaker 1: they scored twenty five points. And then, of course the 1485 01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:17,639 Speaker 1: Miami playoff game where they beat barely beat Skyler Thompson, 1486 01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:21,280 Speaker 1: a third string rookie quarterback. You knew, you knew that 1487 01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:24,120 Speaker 1: it just wasn't right here. Every that last month of 1488 01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:26,760 Speaker 1: the season was really rough in this building, and I 1489 01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,280 Speaker 1: think it showed up really against a good team in Cincinnati. 1490 01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:33,240 Speaker 1: You showed up. It showed exactly the situation they were in. 1491 01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,160 Speaker 1: Break time for us here. Some final thoughts on the 1492 01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:38,400 Speaker 1: tweet sheet next when we return here on one Bills Live, 1493 01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:55,800 Speaker 1: presented by Collid to Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All 1494 01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:58,360 Speaker 1: right back here on one Bills Live. Some final thoughts 1495 01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:00,880 Speaker 1: on the tweet sheet Where we've been asked today what 1496 01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:05,240 Speaker 1: position can't be absent from Buffalo's twenty twenty three draft class. 1497 01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:10,200 Speaker 1: Phillip says, easy answer is wide receiver. They surely will 1498 01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:13,799 Speaker 1: add one, even if on Day three. What I want 1499 01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:17,040 Speaker 1: is a D lineman, a one tech or a pass 1500 01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:20,479 Speaker 1: rushing edge. When Vaughan was lost, we had no juice 1501 01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:22,479 Speaker 1: on the edge. I was hoping for a veteran pass 1502 01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:26,240 Speaker 1: rusher in free agency, but Shack is another edge setter. 1503 01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:32,040 Speaker 1: No DT under contract after this season, and we rotate heavy, 1504 01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:37,719 Speaker 1: so he's DT or EDGE. That's interesting. Yeah, I'm okay. 1505 01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:41,120 Speaker 1: I'll go anytime anywhere on the offensive line, anywhere on 1506 01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:44,160 Speaker 1: the defensive line. I'd be shocked if if we don't 1507 01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:47,439 Speaker 1: haven't maybe one of each. At the end of this draft. 1508 01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:50,479 Speaker 1: Edge might meet maybe multiple of each. A selection of 1509 01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:53,599 Speaker 1: an edge rusher early in the draft might be met 1510 01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,600 Speaker 1: with some angst from Bill's fans, just because of the 1511 01:27:56,680 --> 01:28:00,320 Speaker 1: investment in that position high in the draft in recent years. 1512 01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:05,200 Speaker 1: So even if it makes sense to the experts upstairs, 1513 01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:08,880 Speaker 1: well I get it. You gotta keep swinging. Well, look, 1514 01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:11,040 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna knock it. You gotta keep swinging. They're 1515 01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:13,280 Speaker 1: upstairs and we're down here for a reason. Yeah, you 1516 01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:16,360 Speaker 1: gotta keep swinging at it. If it's like the quarterbacks. 1517 01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:21,000 Speaker 1: But I was applauded John Elway. They had more quarterbacks 1518 01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:23,920 Speaker 1: cycle rinsing through Denver. He knew what he was looking at. 1519 01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:26,760 Speaker 1: So you gotta keep trying. And if the position is 1520 01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:30,280 Speaker 1: that important as we all think edge rusher is, hey, man, 1521 01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:33,880 Speaker 1: stan't get up to the plate and take a swing. 1522 01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:38,519 Speaker 1: Let's goin. Travis says, after one of the losses this year, 1523 01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:42,240 Speaker 1: I can't remember which, I was furious, insisting they use 1524 01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:46,519 Speaker 1: all their draft picks on offensive lineman. I haven't forgotten. Well, 1525 01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:50,000 Speaker 1: there you go, Travis, I feel your pain. Swing away, Travis, 1526 01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:53,760 Speaker 1: swing away. I'm okay, let's go. I'm okay with that. 1527 01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:57,320 Speaker 1: If you can't go wrong drafting big guys, that is true. 1528 01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:01,240 Speaker 1: So I think the general consensus here is received linebacker, 1529 01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:05,360 Speaker 1: and then defensive tackle and corner came up as secondary 1530 01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,080 Speaker 1: place offensive lines at the top. There two old line 1531 01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:10,920 Speaker 1: too correct. All right, thanks for all your responses and 1532 01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:13,000 Speaker 1: all your phone calls. We'll catch you tomorrow on a 1533 01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:14,680 Speaker 1: Thursday edition of One Bill's Live