WEBVTT - Is This the October Surprise? 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.160 Native Land is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:04.600 Reason Choice Media. 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:07.440 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:08.240 Welcome, Welcome home. 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:08.600 Y'all. 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:12.119 This is episode forty three of Native Landpod, where we 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:15.640 give it to you directly our breakdown of all things 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:21.239 politics and cultures. We are your hosts, Tiffany Cross, Angelu Ray, 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:24.079 and Andrew Gillum. I think I get at least one 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:28.360 of the three of those points correct. Either of them 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:31.360 are going to show up. 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:34.200 I'm in the South, baby, It's the dirty South. It's 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:35.360 the dirty, dirty South. 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:44.879 Gross, yeah, will take it. 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:46.840 Welcome. 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:48.240 Hey, I don't mind country. 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:52.760 I know you don't you our country. 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:55.400 I love the country food, mostly. 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:57.840 Because country and southern. 0:00:58.240 --> 0:00:59.800 You know, it's very different. 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:01.240 It is different. 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:03.920 My grandmother used to try to say I'm not country, 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:04.640 I'm Southern. 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:06.919 I was like, girl, you actually. 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:10.360 Your grandma probably was southern. 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.600 No, this is granny, this is this was Eddie Rye's mom. 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:16.800 She could be very countrysometime it might have been a 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:19.240 little sitty, but she was also very country. 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:23.479 Andrew Southern, I am. 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:24.640 You know. 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:29.480 All these trees are down, this stuff pops up around. 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:34.800 Allergies for me around weird times. So who knows that 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:37.960 you know a little a little, a little teer here 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:38.920 and there. 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:42.040 But mostly all things are good. 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:43.920 How are you on your part of the country, your 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:44.800 side of the country. 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:45.440 I'm good. 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:48.640 I am eager to talk about a lot of things today. 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:50.560 You did say a little tear here and there, so 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:51.800 I don't want you to think I didn't hear that 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:52.680 we're thumbtacking that. 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:53.760 I want to go back to that. 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:56.919 A lot of people talk about our mini pod last week, 0:01:57.000 --> 0:02:00.680 and so I. 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:00.640 How many last week? 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:02.240 Well, we talked about like emotional stuff. 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:04.960 We could throw that in the conversation too, because I 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:07.440 didn't get the feedback. In fact, why don't we What 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:10.320 is on your mind? I know there's a lot percolating 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:11.959 in the atmosphere, but TIF what's up for you? 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:15.160 I definitely want to talk about the debate, obviously, the 0:02:15.240 --> 0:02:18.680 vice presidential debate, but I. 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:19.720 Think we have to give a little bit of time 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:21.360 to this war. 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:24.920 You guys know, I've been talking about this for weeks now, 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:28.880 maybe months, saying how nervous I am that at some 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:32.200 point Iran is going to respond and then the United 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:34.680 States will be pulled into a war. And that is 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:37.679 definitely percolating. But first and foremost, I definitely want to 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:40.440 talk about the debate because we all have very different 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:40.960 takes on it. 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:42.280 So I'm eager to get into that. 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:43.840 Angela, what's up with you? 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:45.880 All I want to talk about is the debate because 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:48.880 this name of a five seconds left in this election. Yeah, 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:51.120 and I'm waking up at this point in the middle 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:54.400 of the night, like I am so very anxious about 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:57.040 lots of about this election. 0:02:57.160 --> 0:02:59.600 I've been on the stable end of some of Angela's 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:01.240 anxiety about this election. 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:03.840 Yeah, she's gonna have to tune it out because I 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:04.880 ain't shutting it down no more. 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:08.959 It's been impacting my hope, and so I want to 0:03:09.080 --> 0:03:11.919 address all the all our feelings around here. 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:14.360 We can address it. I just I'm gonna tell you 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:16.640 I cannot hide it. It's written all over my face, 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:18.760 has written all over, my spirit has written all over, 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:21.160 my sleep has written in my nasal passages. At this point, 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:26.400 let's get into it, okay, And there are there are 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:29.040 There's something that I think that we can do to 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:32.040 be additive to saving this democracy, and that is hitting 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:33.680 the road, which we are doing. 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:35.280 So I'm excited about that too. 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:36.080 Okay. 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:39.240 I always find out about where we're going and what 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:40.400 we're doing on the show. 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:41.280 On the show. 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:48.480 Person asking for I don't want the advanced lead. You're like, look, 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:49.160 just give it to me. 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:54.280 I would rather the audience, like, y'all learning when I'm learning. 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:57.720 We having an authentic experience conversation on native lamp PID, 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:01.120 so we're gonna be surprised together. Text and I'm not 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:02.920 looking at it until I hear it. 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:05.160 No, no, no, I'm saying I'm getting text. I just 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:06.280 told you all about the text. 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:08.320 Was Oh, I see. I thought you were saying we're texting, 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:09.920 that's where we're going. I'm like, no, I want to 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:10.160 hear it. 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:13.280 Y'all focus on this show. I want to text you 0:04:13.320 --> 0:04:14.160 on the side right now. 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:17.920 Guess what listeners and hosts alike we're about to learn 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:19.800 as we're in the show. Can we start to I 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:22.440 want to first bring us up to speed about what 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:26.320 we are hearing knowing on On the pod, we talked 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:28.080 about last week where we took a little bit of 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:30.719 a diversion from politics, which will not be this episode. 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:32.839 We will stay in politics, but took a. 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:36.120 Little diversion and talk a little bit of heart mind body, spirit, 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:37.520 soul in our. 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:40.080 Really brief about that because I know we want to 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:43.200 get to the debate, but I just it was a 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:46.359 quick break from politics and it was well received. And 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:49.520 I think sometimes, you know, we forget that we are full, 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:54.400 you know, rounded, full human beings, and I think people 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:59.600 appreciate when we talk about our humanity, which also impacts 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:01.800 our pol which I think played out a little bit 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:06.320 on the stage last night. Can I can I jump 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:09.760 into the debate because I want to talk about. 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:14.080 Can I just ask one question orients? Andrew? 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:20.640 You literally last episode were evacuated. Oh yes, And I 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:26.200 just want to take a moment to acknowledge not only 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:29.200 what may have happened for you in Tallahassee, but the 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:33.480 folks all over the country, including in Asheville, North Carolina. 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:38.360 We just send our prayers to y'all, and whatever we 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:41.120 can do, please let us know, Please send us comments, 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:42.440 let us know what's happening. 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:43.960 If you all let us know you're okay. 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:46.640 I know they talked, They talked about phone lines being 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:50.040 impacted and things being down. Andrew, how did you all fare? 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:52.960 And is everything okay here? What is that? 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:58.160 I appreciate you asking both Angela and Tiffany, and for 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:01.320 your putting up with me, as I was sort of 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:05.520 balancing all the frustrations of all the moving objects. The 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:09.080 reason why it is so jolting for us in this 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:13.520 part of the country. And I would say, up through Ashville, 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:16.000 through North Carolina, through the parts of the country that 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:19.680 received the greatest impact from this storm, we're not usually 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:22.880 the places. I mean, you hear about North Carolina being 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:25.280 impacted by a hurricane, you hear about Florida being impacted 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:29.119 by hurricane Rarely, ever, are these the parts of those 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:32.600 states that get direct impacts. And so when we start 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:36.200 hearing things like, oh, direct impact ten miles from where 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:40.920 your house is of a category for hurricane or even worse, 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:42.800 the news I was hearing at the time that we 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:45.560 were you know we were recording was a direct impact, 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:48.040 meaning this the eye of the storm coming directly over 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:48.680 where it. 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:49.200 Is you live. 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:53.839 It sends real nerves through us. And I have to say, 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:57.800 while we were unnerved here down closer to the coast, 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:01.440 the panangular coast here in Florida, I have to imagine 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:04.960 places like Asheville, North Carolina, we're even all the less 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:08.480 ready for a storm of this kind of impact. We're 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:13.040 talking about places whose trees never get shaken quite that way, right, 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:17.080 and so when trees get shaken that way and storm 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:20.360 water surge starts to come into those areas at ten 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:28.120 fifteen twenty feet, you're talking about lives being lost. Forget 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:30.600 about land and property because you just you just have 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:33.200 to go with what it, you know what is, but 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:36.280 but real lives being put at stake. And I think 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:40.360 the last that heard there had been this may have 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:42.680 been one of the most significant storms as it relates 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:45.880 the loss of life that many of these areas have 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:50.720 ever seen, have ever seen. And so, like you, my 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.040 heart goes out to those who have been, you know, 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.880 terribly impacted. We had a excuse me, a tree in 0:07:56.920 --> 0:08:02.240 our backyard that came down from our house, and then 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:05.080 there's just you know, debris everywhere. But I have to say, 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:09.600 by and large, by comparison, Tallahassee escaped what could have 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:12.760 been the worst of these impacts. But just to our east, 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:18.200 not just lost of life, but land, you know, property. 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:21.560 These things can be replaced. But but just consider for 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:24.440 a lot of these folks, they just had not prepared 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:29.520 for that scale, that scale and that impact of storm. 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.360 My heart does go out to those in Georgia and 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:34.720 North Carolina and in all those places that have been 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:39.240 impacted by this storm, and that with those folks who 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:42.160 were still missing that my hope is maybe they were 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:45.880 able to get out relocate and just because of lines 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:49.760 being down and communication being really unsettled, that weren't able 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:52.559 to communicate that. Thank you for your thoughts and prayers. 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:55.760 I hope folks who are out there, who are in 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:58.679 the zone of impact will write to us, can email us, 0:08:58.679 --> 0:09:01.520 can send a video, can say what their needs are. 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:05.600 Because it's certainly this close to the election, there's a 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:09.680 lot of unsettling. But just in the in the state of. 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:11.760 People's lives, everyday lives, there's. 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:15.920 A lot of unsettling, and I'm prayerful that that that 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:17.600 that folks will get the help that they need when 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:18.079 they need it. 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:21.839 With that being said, you know, I'll kick it. 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.880 Back, Yes, I'll be really quick because I know people 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:26.920 are eager to hear about the debate, but I just 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:30.280 want to on the storm. And so you all have 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:32.960 heard us talk about Latasha Brown on this show many times. 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.439 She and Cliff Albright run the group Black Voters Matter. 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:40.560 They are instrumental in saving American democracy. And they were 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:44.120 just honored this week in DC at an event. So 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:47.560 it's like all these donors there and Latasha saying and 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:51.480 just gave this beautiful speech. Cliff gave wonderful remarks. And 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:55.360 when they show on their list of like if you 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:57.480 give this much, this is what this money goes for. 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:02.160 And on the list they had generators and they asked 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:04.320 did they ask the audience do you see anything here 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:07.040 that stands out to you? And somebody shouted out generators 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:11.400 and they talked about seeing people's humanity and that is 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:14.959 something I think that it's so crucial to us as 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:18.200 black people. We are not your political commodity every two 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:21.840 or four years. And I think with Latasha and Cliff, 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:25.320 they you know, they could not go to someone's door 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:28.680 and encourage them to vote and those people are suffering, 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.240 or if they say, well, where were you when we 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:34.400 were in need? And so the gap that they feel 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:37.240 and the work that they do on the ground is 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:41.000 tangible and felt, and so it is beyond just voting 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:43.400 with them. They show up and say, hey, black people, 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:46.600 we see you, and we want to make it easy 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:49.400 and inviting for you to participate in this democracy. So 0:10:49.480 --> 0:10:51.760 as you were talking about the folks that need that 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:54.800 is not lost on me. I think that's so crucial. 0:10:55.559 --> 0:11:01.640 I want to hop it to the debate, yes, because 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:04.800 one I don't know if a lot of people watch 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:09.040 the debate, and I don't think that anybody shows up 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:14.199 to the debate that the debate is gonna make move 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:16.000 them one way or another. You know, I think people 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:18.360 kind of tune in if it's in their background, and 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:22.840 people probably just don't watch vice president's debate. What I 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:27.560 took away from the debate is how much Donald Trump 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:32.360 has changed the political landscape. And I say that because 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:37.440 everybody wants a SoundBite. Now, everybody wanted a punch counter 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:42.480 punch people. You know, the analysis afterwards where you know 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:44.640 a lot of people felt like, oh, Waltz should have 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:49.360 done this or said this, And because jd. Vance was 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:53.280 able to speak in sound bites, it gave the false 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:57.240 impression that he was prepared or he just looked better. 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.480 And I just thought, man, how do we get to 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:04.120 a place where if somebody lies but puts it in 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:07.640 a prettier package that that's okay. And I thought, in 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:11.160 the analysis, if everybody who was doing post debate analysis 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:15.520 instead of talking about how articulate he was or how 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:19.080 well he spoke in sound bites. I wonder what would 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.960 have happened if they just simply fact checked that almost 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:24.679 every answer he gave was a lie. I don't really 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:28.120 care that Waltz wasn't speaking in sound bites, you know. 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:30.480 I thought he had some clippable moments, but that's It's 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:34.240 kind of like our entire politics are just trivialized to 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:38.720 what is clippable for Instagram, TikTok, the eleven o'clock news 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:41.720 and the twenty four hour cable news networks, and not 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:44.600 the substance of it. So I was really frustrated watching 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:46.640 that because I'm like, wow, we are really in Donald 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:50.920 Trump's America. Where if walt had said, you know, well, 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:53.480 we'll screw you because I, you know, went to the 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:55.320 Springfield and you don't know what you're talking about, people 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:57.480 are like, yay, he got it, and it's like yeah, 0:12:57.520 --> 0:12:59.360 But there was actually a lot of substance in there. 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:02.560 So I liked that it was that he had more 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:06.880 things to say that were actually accurate. So just I 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:09.439 have specific points, but I just thought in the general 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:12.000 style of it that was Yeah. 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:14.839 I wonder I thank you for inviting that, because I 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:18.000 think that I know we want to get a break 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:21.240 in here soon, but but I appreciate us maybe each 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:24.720 opening just a moment about some of the telegenic nature 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:28.480 that debates seemed to be sort of flowing. Because I 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:32.240 had a very similar reaction one yes to Donald Trump 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:35.319 effect on debates, which is, now, if folks are on 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:39.200 throwing blows and leveling one another with insult, then it 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:43.959 can't be an interesting debate or it's boring, right like 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:47.560 we're back to, oh, the politics as usual. And then 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:51.040 number two, this this idea that if you look telegenic enough, 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.200 and if you deliver the line with a good enough 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:56.679 smile or grand or glance, that all of a sudden, 0:13:57.200 --> 0:14:00.320 all of your past is a race. Like nothing you 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:03.680 said up unto this moment matters other than what you 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:07.679 said just in those two minutes or sixty seconds of 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:11.120 a response. And I do think it's important that remind 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:14.800 that we remind each other, that we remind society, certainly 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:19.000 our listeners, that that's not really what the debates are 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:21.240 supposed to be made of, and that certainly isn't what 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:24.440 the totality of a candidate is made of is how 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:28.120 well they delivered in a particular performance. Now, I could 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:30.240 be downrating this because of all the other stuff that 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:32.960 I want to say about what I experienced in that debate, 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:37.080 But just pulling back and looking very optically at this 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:41.680 whole thing, it's mind boggling that we could really resolve 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.960 that because I delivered a nice line that what I 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:47.640 said and contradiction to it, and how I have voted 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:51.680 and acted and conducted myself contrary to what I just said, 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:54.680 and the years leading up to this moment up until 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:57.720 I hit this stage no longer matters because I delivered 0:14:57.760 --> 0:14:59.920 a nice wink at the end of that of the 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:03.120 sixty second line, Angela, do you have any broad thoughts 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:04.960 before we hit a break on on just sort of 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:07.200 the what debates have become? 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:11.560 It seems I would love to answer that question on 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:13.400 the other side of a break, so I can start 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:17.280 with a clip, seriously, make up some of the monotony, 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:19.040 and we got it. Yeah, we got a lot of sound. 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:21.600 So if we can hit this break and start with sound, 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:23.280 I think we're good. We've got to pay some bills, 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:24.760 y'all will be our best. 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:36.880 Now. 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:39.120 Now, of course, Donald Trump has been very clear that 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:43.240 on the abortion policy, specifically, that we have a big 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:46.440 country and it's diverse, and California has a different viewpoint 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:50.119 on this than Georgia. Georgia has a different viewpoint from Arizona. 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:53.080 And the proper way to handle this, as messy as 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:57.800 democracy sometimes is, is to let voters make these decisions. 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:00.720 Let the individual states make their born policy. 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:05.880 Okay, so I wanted to play that because Tiff talked 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:09.480 about Donald Trump's America, Andrew you talked about someone able 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:14.880 to deliver a line. Jd Vance in this debate almost 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:19.600 had me when he talked about his friend who had 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:24.040 this experience where she needed to get an abortion to 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:28.600 get out of a relationship that was violent. And then 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:33.680 he started twisting and turning in the wind. He started 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:37.720 saying that he thinks that they should be full in 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:41.280 support of full family. He started talking about that things 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:43.560 should be up to the states. Now, I want to 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:47.240 contextualize this with some things. The first thing is, after 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:50.480 this debate performance last night, Donald Trump goes on to 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:52.920 Trump up to Trump's social is really what it should 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:56.560 be called, but truth social and says that he would 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:59.840 veto a national abortion band. But here are the facts 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:04.320 around this. In March of this year, the Republican Study Committee, 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:08.320 which is a part of the House Republican Cocket Conference, 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:13.880 said that they want that They endorsed a national abortion 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:17.840 ban with zero exceptions for rape or incest. 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:25.919 The Republican Study Committee eliminated support for IVF treatment. The 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:31.520 Republican Study Committee endorses banning how do you say this drug? 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:32.600 Mephy prestoned. 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:34.000 I did not know that's how you say it, but 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:38.280 either way, the FDA approved safe and effective medication that 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:40.760 has been on the market now for twenty years. This 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:45.000 is the same Republican Party and their candidate at the 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:48.679 top of the ticket who has said who has said 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:54.920 that he supports the Dobbs decision that overturned Roe versus Wade, 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:56.199 has bragged about it. 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:58.640 So now all of a sudden, they know that they 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:01.200 are now centering. 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:05.960 Themselves in the wombs of women all over this country. 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:09.240 Now they're saying, you know what, maybe we shouldn't be here, 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:11.000 Maybe this could cost us selection. 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:12.160 So they're pivoting. 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:15.119 And I think what we saw last night was someone 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:17.760 who could traffic in gaslighting. 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:19.520 You know this woman who. 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:23.360 I love you, he says, who needed this treatment, who 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:27.880 was making that decision for herself. If we substituted out 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:34.000 abortion for a rectile dysfunction medication, or for women who 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:38.680 wanted to get boob jobs or Brazilian butt lifts, there 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:41.679 would be no space for us. 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:44.080 To even be talking about choice. 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:46.800 I want to bring to your attention this is the 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:52.440 same party that had fits about a COVID vaccination being mandatory. 0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:55.080 They want choice, but choice. 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:57.480 Is convenient for them, and they only want to ensure 0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:00.359 choice when their choices are on the line. But women 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:03.600 forget about it. So I watched this man twist and 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:09.720 turn and contort himself around abortion period and say, my 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:12.760 friend needed this. I understand it, love you, but this 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:15.840 should be up to the states. That's where we land, 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:19.040 with all of the restrictions that state. We know where 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.680 the states stand. We could pull up a state chart 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:25.600 with all of the things they've put up for reproductive justice. 0:19:25.600 --> 0:19:27.560 And you know what, y'all, I'm gonna be honest with 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:31.560 you personally, this isn't something that I go out and 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:35.880 be like pro abortion, but I am absolutely pro choice. 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:39.480 I am absolutely not gonna stand in the way between 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:42.040 a woman and her doctor and what is in the 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:46.440 best decision for her. Life, her children's lives, her community, 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:51.480 her finances. That is not my job and that is 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:52.120 her business. 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:54.520 Yeah, so a couple things there. I mean, I think 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:57.280 we all agree there. And to me, it was very 0:19:57.320 --> 0:20:01.200 obvious that jd. Vance was lying. It was a clear lie. 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:05.479 Everything he said was a lie, point blank. And I 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:10.119 wish that the moderators served a role other than question 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:14.240 asking when he ran for Senate, he ran on a 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:17.080 national abortion band. Yes, he has said on the record 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:19.960 to CNN own Manu Rogers that he that he supports 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:24.280 a national abortion band. This is googleably false. This is 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:27.520 demonstrably false. Because you brought up the drug that none 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:29.480 of us know how to say. I think it's methil prestone. 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:30.399 I didn't know what. 0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:36.399 But I want to say just so you understand and 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:39.000 so the audience understands, to give context how we even 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:41.640 got there, as you all know because we've talked about 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:44.240 it on this show a lot. Trump appointed over two 0:20:44.359 --> 0:20:47.880 hundred judges, many of whom are completely in not qualified 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:52.680 to be judges. Most of them are overwhelmingly white and male. Now, 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:54.919 so many people are focused on the Supreme Court, but 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:57.200 I want to say why the lower courts matter? Because 0:20:57.240 --> 0:21:00.200 when this issue came to the courts, all all of 0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:05.320 the lower courts, who were well overpopulated with Trump appointed judges, 0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:08.840 they were the ones trying to ruling on a case 0:21:08.880 --> 0:21:13.080 trying to outlaw this drug. Now, when you looked at 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:19.800 their their argument, I'm saying, why this drug should be outlawed, 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:21.320 it was nonsensical. 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:23.400