WEBVTT - The Gym Rat, The Pandemic and The Text Messages

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<v Speaker 1>Falling in love is the best feeling in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>You see stars, you feel giddy, But sometimes that makes

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<v Speaker 1>you do crazy things, and sometimes that means murder. Just

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<v Speaker 1>because the story starts out with once upon a Times

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean it ends happily ever after. Welcome to Crazy

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<v Speaker 1>and Love, a production of Katie Studios and I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Today's guests are true crime producers Stephanie Lai Ticker and

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Shane. Episode forty two, The Case of the Gym Rat,

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<v Speaker 1>the Pandemic, and the Text Messages. In the upscale and

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<v Speaker 1>scenic seaside community of Jupiter, Florida, live Gretchen Crane. As

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<v Speaker 1>an HR administrator. Gretchen got paid to help employees fix

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<v Speaker 1>their issues. She was a thoughtful and empathetic person and

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<v Speaker 1>this was her dream job. At work, Gretchen was loved

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<v Speaker 1>by colleagues and considered them her second family. The blue eyed,

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<v Speaker 1>blonde haired fifty one year old was described as a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful person who cared deeply about people. But perhaps the

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<v Speaker 1>person Gretchen love more than anyone was her twelve year

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<v Speaker 1>old daughter Ava. Gretchen was a devoted mother and would

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<v Speaker 1>proudly say that Ava was her greatest accomplishment. After a

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<v Speaker 1>divorce from Eva's father, Gretchen was looking to reset her life,

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<v Speaker 1>Hoping to get herself in shape for her second chapter.

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<v Speaker 1>Gretchen joined Orange Theory. Orange Theory is a popular gym

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<v Speaker 1>chain that involves high intensity workouts. It was there that

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<v Speaker 1>she met David Anthony. While chatting with the honky six

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<v Speaker 1>ft seven inch trainer, Gretchen found that her runs on

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<v Speaker 1>the treadmill weren't the only thing getting her heart raising.

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<v Speaker 1>There was an undeniable spark between the pair. They complimented

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<v Speaker 1>each other. David was calm and reserved and Gretchen was

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<v Speaker 1>outspoken and self assured. They were both also active. David

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<v Speaker 1>was a zealous outdoorsman who relish cycling, deep sea fishing,

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<v Speaker 1>and kayaking. Gretchen adored going to the beach, paddle boarding

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<v Speaker 1>and doing yoga. By December fourteen, the pair were engaged.

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<v Speaker 1>They got married at the Elvis Chapel in Las Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>In Aside from his strapping good looks, David was also

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<v Speaker 1>an exceptional stepparent to Gretchen's daughter. The little girl called

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<v Speaker 1>him her bonus parents. Here's Stephanie. This was a couple

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<v Speaker 1>who had a lot going for them. They were both

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<v Speaker 1>very into the gym, so they did this together both

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<v Speaker 1>as a hobby and in David's case, he was also

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<v Speaker 1>a personal trainer. Gretchen was in incredible shape and David

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<v Speaker 1>was a popular trainer who got a lot of female attention.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently he really commanded the attention of most rooms that

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<v Speaker 1>he walked into, and when his energy was high, it

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<v Speaker 1>felt contagious. If anyone who's ever been to personal trainer,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, these are people who take their bodies extremely seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're usually big personalities and magnanimous because they really

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<v Speaker 1>need to inspire people. I'm looking at a photograph of

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<v Speaker 1>them right now that will post on our website, and

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<v Speaker 1>she has long blonde hair and is in his arms,

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<v Speaker 1>and she just looks incredibly at ease, and he is very,

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<v Speaker 1>very tall, and again, first impression seemed like they're a

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<v Speaker 1>happy couple. Despite all the good they had in their relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>by Gretchen and David had hit sort of a rough

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<v Speaker 1>patch and decided to split. According to their friends, they

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<v Speaker 1>had lost themselves in the relationship and they each wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to focus on finding their own self identity. And this

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<v Speaker 1>was not the first time the pair had parted. They

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<v Speaker 1>once had a six month separation, but eventually found their

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<v Speaker 1>way back. In December, Gretchen texted a friend about this

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<v Speaker 1>split and said that she thought David needs to learn

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<v Speaker 1>how to love himself before he can love anyone else,

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<v Speaker 1>and desp the fact that they had broken up and

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<v Speaker 1>gotten back together before. It seemed like this split might

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<v Speaker 1>actually have stuck, because on February Gretchen filed for divorce.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a few weeks after filing, the impending divorce would

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<v Speaker 1>be the last thing on anyone's mind. The world was

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<v Speaker 1>now dealing with COVID nineteen. Businesses in schools shut down,

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<v Speaker 1>and people were forced to quarantine in their homes. Thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of Americans were getting sick and dying every day. It

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<v Speaker 1>seemed no one was immune, not even healthy and active

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<v Speaker 1>fifty one year old Gretchen, who came down with coronavirus.

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<v Speaker 1>On Monday, March nine am, Gretchen sent a text to

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<v Speaker 1>her daughter Eva, good morning, awoke to shortness of breath,

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<v Speaker 1>checked into e R awaiting test kits hopefully by ten am.

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<v Speaker 1>Wish me luck. I'll keep you posted. Here's Jeff. For

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<v Speaker 1>the next few days, it seemed gretchen state was getting worse,

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<v Speaker 1>and she continued to text family and friends with her

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<v Speaker 1>health updates. She texted her daughter, good morning. Tested positive

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<v Speaker 1>for coronavirus early this morning. That means I have to

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<v Speaker 1>stay here for at least two weeks. It also means

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<v Speaker 1>our house is quarantined for two weeks. Another text read,

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<v Speaker 1>I am on a ventilator due to coronavirus, and yet

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<v Speaker 1>another text read after checking into the R today, I

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<v Speaker 1>passed out due to high fever hundred and two degrees

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<v Speaker 1>and low oxygen levels. Because it was an acute case,

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<v Speaker 1>they transferred me to an off site medical facility being

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<v Speaker 1>run directly by the CDC and Coronavirus Task Force. According

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<v Speaker 1>to Gretchen's text, this facility was more than an hour

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<v Speaker 1>away in Bell Glade, Florida, and this seemed really serious.

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<v Speaker 1>We remember what the early days of coronavirus were like

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<v Speaker 1>and it could be considered life and death. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was no surprise when Gretchen's loved ones were really alarmed

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<v Speaker 1>and worried. Not only did it seem like her health

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<v Speaker 1>was deteriorating, but aside from just a few short texts,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody could get hold of her, and when they pressed

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<v Speaker 1>her for why, she wasn't answering her phone or couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>actually speak to anybody. Gretchen wrote, and this is a

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<v Speaker 1>direct quote, the coronavirus is causing my right lung to

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<v Speaker 1>work extra hard to help me breathe. No visitors, no

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<v Speaker 1>phone calls, and I'm limited to a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>cell phone use because the doctors think the radiation from

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<v Speaker 1>my phone is causing my immune system to not fight

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<v Speaker 1>the virus like it should. I'm staying strong as it

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<v Speaker 1>could be worse. I promise you'll all stay strong for me, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>End quote. On March, fed up with not being able

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to her, Gretchen's ex husband and the father

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<v Speaker 1>of her daughter, a man named Jeff went to the

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<v Speaker 1>Jupiter Medical Center to see if he could track Gretchen down.

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<v Speaker 1>In the parking lot, he spotted her dark blue Mini

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper on the passenger side floor was her purse. When

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<v Speaker 1>he went inside to ask the r physician to speak

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<v Speaker 1>with Gretchen, the employee told him that she was in

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<v Speaker 1>fact once a patient, but hadn't been to the facility

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<v Speaker 1>since two thousand and eight, so despite texting people that

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<v Speaker 1>she was at the hospital, she hadn't actually been there.

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<v Speaker 1>In years, Jeff, the ex husband, thought perhaps she was

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<v Speaker 1>at the CDC facility instead. As it turns out, despite

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<v Speaker 1>texting people and really clearly stating that she was at

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<v Speaker 1>the CDC facility in Bell Glade, there was no such

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<v Speaker 1>facility in that area. Now people are really starting to worry.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to take a break. We'll be back in

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<v Speaker 1>just a moment. Was Gretchen so sick she was losing

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<v Speaker 1>her mind? Was she trying to keep her actual location secret?

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<v Speaker 1>Or was someone holding her hostage and forcing her to

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<v Speaker 1>send those texts? With many more questions than answered, it

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<v Speaker 1>seemed only one thing was clear. Gretchen Anthony was missing.

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<v Speaker 1>Now officially terrified, Chin's family called nine one one on March,

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<v Speaker 1>the police went to her house for a welfare check.

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<v Speaker 1>There they spoke to a few neighbors, one of whom

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<v Speaker 1>had a story worth telling. A few days ago. On

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<v Speaker 1>the morning of March, this neighbor had heard a woman screaming.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounded like she was being attacked. The screaming lass

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<v Speaker 1>in about fifteen minutes, and despite the serious nature of

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<v Speaker 1>the noises, this neighbor never called men one one. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>that neighbor gave a statement to police but their statement

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the only thing that they were concerned about, because

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<v Speaker 1>police also noticed a trail of some sort of soapy

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<v Speaker 1>substance coming from Gretchen's garage, and remember her garage is

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<v Speaker 1>closed at the time, and at the side of the door,

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<v Speaker 1>they also found that a lock had a key broken

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<v Speaker 1>off into it, meaning somebody had tried to break the

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<v Speaker 1>lock and probably the key snapped inside of it. And

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<v Speaker 1>as police found their way into the garage, they found

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<v Speaker 1>bleach footprints accompanied by an overwhelming smell of cleaning products,

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<v Speaker 1>and it looked like something really messy had obviously happened

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<v Speaker 1>there and that someone had attempted to really clean it up.

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<v Speaker 1>After looking around the garage, the police went into the house.

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<v Speaker 1>They were hopeful that Gretchen might be inside, but what

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<v Speaker 1>detectives found was signs of a violent struggle, a broken

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<v Speaker 1>picture frame, shards of glass on Gretchen's bed, and a

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<v Speaker 1>stained towel. The towel had BLS on it, and what

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<v Speaker 1>BLS means is a blood like substance. The police also

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<v Speaker 1>noted that security cameras around the home had seemingly been

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<v Speaker 1>ripped off of the walls. They contacted the company to

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<v Speaker 1>see if they could retrieve the video from the cloud.

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<v Speaker 1>It was clear that something bad had happened to Grutchen

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<v Speaker 1>in the home, but there were still no signs of

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<v Speaker 1>the mother. Police got another huge break when a different

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<v Speaker 1>neighbor told them they had seen this sketchy looking black

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<v Speaker 1>truck the same morning that the other neighbor had heard

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<v Speaker 1>blood curdling screams. In fact, they were so creeped out

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<v Speaker 1>by this truck they even took a picture of the vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>In the picture, which is a black Nissan up truck.

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<v Speaker 1>Police could actually make out the license plate. Well, who

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<v Speaker 1>did it belonged to? Stuff Gretchen's a strange husband, David Anthony,

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<v Speaker 1>and this photo meant that David had been very close

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<v Speaker 1>to Gretchen's house the last day she was seen alive.

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<v Speaker 1>But at this point, where is David because nobody knows

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<v Speaker 1>where he is. So police started to figure out David's movements,

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<v Speaker 1>and what they found was that after Gretchen filed for

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<v Speaker 1>divorce in February, David moved in with his mom, so

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<v Speaker 1>police went to her home to find David. When they arrived,

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<v Speaker 1>David's mother told the police that she had last seen

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<v Speaker 1>him on March. Now Remember that was three days after

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<v Speaker 1>Gretchen has last and seen alive. David's mom told the

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<v Speaker 1>detectives that she didn't know where her son was. He

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<v Speaker 1>had packed up his truck and left. David's mom notably

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<v Speaker 1>asked detectives if the visit was about Gretchen, as she

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<v Speaker 1>had gotten texts from her saying that she had seemed

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sick. So all this didn't look good for David.

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<v Speaker 1>He was last seen outside of Gretchen's home the last

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<v Speaker 1>time she was seen alive, and then he seemingly disappears.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine? And to add further suspicion, police were

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<v Speaker 1>able to retrieve the security footage from the Jupiter Medical

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<v Speaker 1>Facility where Gretchen's car had been found earlier. They could

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<v Speaker 1>see her Minnie Cooper, pulling into the lot, but she

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<v Speaker 1>never got out of the car. Instead, a very tall

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<v Speaker 1>man exited the vehicle and walked out of frame. And

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<v Speaker 1>remember David is six seven. With David looking like a

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<v Speaker 1>likely suspect, police got a notification that Gretchen's phone was

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<v Speaker 1>pinging about six hundred miles away in Pensacola, Florida. Her

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<v Speaker 1>and David's phones were both moving across the state and

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<v Speaker 1>into Louisiana. Detectives wondered if the pair could be on

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<v Speaker 1>the run together. As the detectives worked to track down

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<v Speaker 1>David and Gretchen, police began looking into David's past. They

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<v Speaker 1>found that he grew up with a single mother in

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<v Speaker 1>Palm Beach Gardens, Florida. Painfully shy, he usually didn't speak

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<v Speaker 1>unless spoken to. David was overweight as a young man

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<v Speaker 1>and had a low self esteem, which made him a

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<v Speaker 1>constant target for bullies at school because he was so

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<v Speaker 1>much bigger than other kids. He hadn't and allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>join recreational sports leagues. As he got older, he continued

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<v Speaker 1>to struggle with severe depression and showed signs of bipolar disorder.

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<v Speaker 1>He refused to take any medication, instead becoming obsessed with fitness.

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<v Speaker 1>He got in great shape and got a scholarship to

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<v Speaker 1>play at basketball in college. It was there he fell

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<v Speaker 1>in love with Kobe Bryant. He idolized the athlete and

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<v Speaker 1>even int his dog after the star. He fell into

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<v Speaker 1>some trouble when he held up a Blockbuster video store

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<v Speaker 1>with a water gun. Another point, he also assaulted a

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<v Speaker 1>police officer. He reached a plea deal in both of

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<v Speaker 1>those cases and spent a short time in jail. As

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<v Speaker 1>we know, he eventually got it together and became a

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<v Speaker 1>popular and successful trainer at Orange Theory for over six years. However,

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<v Speaker 1>that seems to have ended pretty poorly as well. While

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<v Speaker 1>at first his clients seemed to love his high energy

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<v Speaker 1>and his good looks, at some point his behavior changed.

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<v Speaker 1>David was usually the first person at work and at

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<v Speaker 1>the gym in the morning, but in January he started

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<v Speaker 1>to come in later and later and later, apparently, and

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<v Speaker 1>according to his coworkers, his behavior vier shifted noticeably. Those

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<v Speaker 1>closest to him said they believed it was a combo

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<v Speaker 1>of his relationship issues with Gretchen and also the death

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<v Speaker 1>of Kobe Bryant. As we heard, he was a huge fan,

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<v Speaker 1>but didn't know him personally, and apparently Kobe's death really

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<v Speaker 1>sent him into its hail spin. And we can all

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<v Speaker 1>agree that that was a hideous tragedy, but David took

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<v Speaker 1>it harder than most, almost as if they were best friends,

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<v Speaker 1>when in fact they had never met. David continued to

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<v Speaker 1>go to work and to try to get other people,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was clear something was off. He became involved

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<v Speaker 1>in a controversial self improvement program called Gratitude Training, which

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<v Speaker 1>has been compared to a cult. There, he spent thousands

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<v Speaker 1>and thousands of dollars on seminars That all seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>come to a head on February when David failed to

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<v Speaker 1>show up at work at all, leaving everybody at his

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<v Speaker 1>gym completely locked out, and at that point his boss

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<v Speaker 1>confronted him him he erupted into a bit of a rage.

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<v Speaker 1>As a result, he was fired, and it turned out

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't the first time he had been in trouble

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<v Speaker 1>at work. A research shows that David had been fired

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<v Speaker 1>at least twice for aggressive behavior towards women. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>big deal, and he was able to convince his boss

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<v Speaker 1>to give him another shot, But this time the not

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<v Speaker 1>showing up to work with the final straw. Yes, his

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<v Speaker 1>boss was so shaken by that encounter the morning that

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't show up to work that she actually texted

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<v Speaker 1>Gretchen in all caps saying stay away from him. Just

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<v Speaker 1>four days after that text, Gretchen filed for divorce and

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<v Speaker 1>the plot thickens. Just a few weeks later, David was

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<v Speaker 1>arrested for following teenage girls at a local mall. Think

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<v Speaker 1>about that. Listen to the body camp footage from when

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<v Speaker 1>he was arrested. Yeah, yeah, like a place. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really shocking to hear. And David spent just a

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<v Speaker 1>few days in jail before posting bail and was released

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<v Speaker 1>just three days before Gretchen disappeared. It's clear he is spiraling.

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<v Speaker 1>So back in March of twenty, with both Gretchen and

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<v Speaker 1>David missing, the police were actually able to track down

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<v Speaker 1>David using his cell phone, using the cell phone towers

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<v Speaker 1>that they were able to locate him on various surveillance cameras,

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<v Speaker 1>one of which was at a local pawn shop where

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<v Speaker 1>he could be seen selling Gretchen's possessions. When the police

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<v Speaker 1>went to the store, the manager actually remember David because

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<v Speaker 1>of the story he told. Apparently, he said that the

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<v Speaker 1>jewelry he had been selling was left to him by

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<v Speaker 1>a loved one who had died from COVID nineteen. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>by the time the cops had gotten there, David was

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<v Speaker 1>long gone and they always seemed to be just one

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<v Speaker 1>step behind him. It really was becoming a huge game

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<v Speaker 1>of cat and mouse at this point. You know, David

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<v Speaker 1>would turn on his cell phone and then that would

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<v Speaker 1>send a ping, and then detectives would run to that location,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he would turn it off and disappear. So

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<v Speaker 1>again this kept happening, but finally, on March, David's phone

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<v Speaker 1>pinged in New Mexico, nearly one thousand, nine hundred miles

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<v Speaker 1>away from Jupiter, and local officers were able to track

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<v Speaker 1>him down in his truck and in the passenger seat

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<v Speaker 1>was his dog, Kobe. Take a listen to what he

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<v Speaker 1>told the cops who arrested him lost. I heard she

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<v Speaker 1>was in a CDC facility treatments for coronavirus. Even worse

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<v Speaker 1>than that. Without having enough evidence to hold him, David

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<v Speaker 1>was released. By March, Jupiter police finally received the surveillance

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<v Speaker 1>footage from Gretchen's home. Remember cameras had looked like they'd

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<v Speaker 1>been ripped out of the walls. At least contacted the

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<v Speaker 1>company asking to retrieve the footage, and what they found

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<v Speaker 1>painted a truly disturbing picture of what happened to the

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<v Speaker 1>fifty year old mother. In the video, David could be

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<v Speaker 1>seen pacing outside the home shortly after six am, seemingly

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for Gretchen. Six minutes later, Gretchen enters the frame.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you doing, she demanded to her estranged husband.

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<v Speaker 1>The video then showed David forcing her into the garage.

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<v Speaker 1>Off camera, she could be heard screaming. Gretchen began yelling

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<v Speaker 1>for her Amazon Alexa device, Alexa, turn on the garage

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<v Speaker 1>light she called. The camera then picked up a loud

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<v Speaker 1>thud sound and Gretchen's muffled cries. At this point, she

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<v Speaker 1>shouted three times for Alexa to call nine on one.

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<v Speaker 1>By her third play, her voice was fading before finally

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<v Speaker 1>it went silent tragically an unbeknownst to Gretchen, you actually

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<v Speaker 1>have to enable Alexa to call nine on one before

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<v Speaker 1>being able to do so. For anyone who owns one

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<v Speaker 1>of these devices, you can do that on your Alexa app.

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<v Speaker 1>As the detectives combed through the footage, they located one

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<v Speaker 1>shot where Gretchen was covered in blood as David paced

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<v Speaker 1>around her in the garage. At the end of the video,

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<v Speaker 1>David realized he could be seen on the surveillance In

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<v Speaker 1>the shot, he walks up to the camera and then

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<v Speaker 1>pulls it down. The freeze frame of this shot is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most disturbing things I've ever seen. It's

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<v Speaker 1>literally David seconds after killing his estranged wife. We've posted

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<v Speaker 1>it on our Instagram at Katie Underscore Studios if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to see it for yourself. Let's stop here for

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<v Speaker 1>another break. With the surveillance footage, the police finally had

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<v Speaker 1>enough to get a warrant for David's arrest. In New Mexico,

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<v Speaker 1>officials comb the streets looking for the man they believe

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<v Speaker 1>killed Gretchen. At a little before midnight on March they

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<v Speaker 1>found him outside a comedian store. Listen to audio from

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<v Speaker 1>the moment David was taken into custody. There's a warrant

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<v Speaker 1>for your arrest, and I'm gonna explain that when we

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<v Speaker 1>get down to go back to that. Excuse me, what

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<v Speaker 1>homicide for whom? Who do you think? That's why I

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<v Speaker 1>said much we'll talk about the dead quarters. Okay. It

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<v Speaker 1>really is one of those photos. If you do a

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<v Speaker 1>side by side with this picture, to your point, he

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<v Speaker 1>literally just murdered Gretchen and the original photo that we

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<v Speaker 1>have of them in happier days. It just goes to

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<v Speaker 1>show you really can't judge any book by its cover,

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<v Speaker 1>and beautiful as they may look, this is the face

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<v Speaker 1>of pure evil. Back at the station, David told the

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<v Speaker 1>police that he hadn't harmed Gretchen, but she was actually alive.

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<v Speaker 1>He said. Gretchen had uncovered illegal activities at the company

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<v Speaker 1>where she worked and someone was after her. According to him,

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<v Speaker 1>this caused the couple to split down, and at some

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<v Speaker 1>point she freaked out and bolted. David told the police

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<v Speaker 1>that was the last time he had seen her lives,

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<v Speaker 1>but the cops were not buying any of this. When

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<v Speaker 1>detectives asked David about the COVID texts, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>he said. You have her phone, you sent the text messages.

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<v Speaker 1>You planted her car to put her medical center. Because

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<v Speaker 1>you're on video doing it, you have it. She had

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<v Speaker 1>me do it. You put your hand over her mouth

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<v Speaker 1>and racked her into the garage on video DA During

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<v Speaker 1>the two hour interrogation, David told cops Scretchen was alive,

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<v Speaker 1>literally thirty five times thirty five times. It was almost

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<v Speaker 1>as though he was willing her back into existence and

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<v Speaker 1>convincing himself of his own lies. The detectives attempted to

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<v Speaker 1>take a different approach and appealed to his softer side

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<v Speaker 1>by using Gretchen's daughter, the one he had a great

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with. I was the one who taught her how

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<v Speaker 1>to ride it by school, and you know what's right

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<v Speaker 1>for her, Well, you're hurting her indirectly by not letting

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<v Speaker 1>us know where her mom is. You have to ask her.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't ask her. She's dead. She's dead, her mother

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<v Speaker 1>still alive, alive? You are you didn't even like you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even you're not even you and everybody who's going

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<v Speaker 1>to look at you like that. At one point, the

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<v Speaker 1>cops played a recording that Ava, Gretchen's daughter had made

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<v Speaker 1>for David, pleading with to tell the police what he

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<v Speaker 1>had done, but David had none of it. After two hours,

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<v Speaker 1>David stopped the interrogation and asked to see a lawyer.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point, it really didn't matter, as he was

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<v Speaker 1>charged with second degree murder at last, and was extradited

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<v Speaker 1>to Florida. However, the prosecution know they had a big issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Without an actual body, it's so difficult to get a

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<v Speaker 1>guilty verdict, so step in December, officials ended up offering

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<v Speaker 1>David a pleadale. If he pled guilty to second degree murder,

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<v Speaker 1>he would serve only thirty eight years in prison, but

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<v Speaker 1>in exchange for that, he would help lead authorities to

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<v Speaker 1>locate Grussians remains. It was a deal he accepted. I

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<v Speaker 1>hate this deal. This makes me crazy, but I could

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<v Speaker 1>imagine as Grettians loved ones want answers, but the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that he would one day walk free is so haunting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a fine line because you want to give the

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<v Speaker 1>family closure and help ensure that the right person gets

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<v Speaker 1>put away for the crime. So prosecution walks. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>a fine line between getting answers and also putting the

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<v Speaker 1>right person in jail. On December, nine months to the

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<v Speaker 1>day after Gretchen went missing, David pointed authorities to a

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<v Speaker 1>patch of grass behind a walmart. Buried there was his wife, Gretchen.

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<v Speaker 1>She had been wrapped in a blanket and buried in

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<v Speaker 1>a shallow grave. Her cause of death was stab wounds

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<v Speaker 1>to the neck and torso. At his sentencing, David made

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<v Speaker 1>a statement about why he murdered Gretchen wylusiens and I

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<v Speaker 1>guess an end of the world policy, an armagat that

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<v Speaker 1>I bought Compelo skate amount of the cost. Instead of

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<v Speaker 1>being a man, I chose of your coward, I try

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<v Speaker 1>to steal what was a line. In the process, I

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<v Speaker 1>ended his life for Lifehoad Volume for life had leading

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<v Speaker 1>still that life, Gretchen's loved ones bought none of it.

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<v Speaker 1>When it was her sister's time to speak, she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>hold anything back. Now, I would like to say some

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<v Speaker 1>words to the defendant, whose name and being are not

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<v Speaker 1>worthy of the air we all breathe. Your statement will

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<v Speaker 1>never mean anything to anyone. You are a fraud. Gretchen

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<v Speaker 1>had a huge heart and saved your life when your

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<v Speaker 1>car fell on you. Yet you killed Gretchen in that

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<v Speaker 1>same garage where she saved your life. You are pure evil.

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<v Speaker 1>You stole a mother away from her child, a daughter

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<v Speaker 1>away from her mother, a sister away from my brother

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<v Speaker 1>and me, and aunt's away from my children, and a

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<v Speaker 1>friend away from so many, all who loved her abundantly.

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<v Speaker 1>You are a monster. You are a coward. Every birthday, Holliday, graduation, milestone, marriage, birth,

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<v Speaker 1>ava and our family experience will that will be the

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<v Speaker 1>same because what you did you robbed this of these

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<v Speaker 1>experiences with Gretchen. You don't deserve to have a life.

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<v Speaker 1>You're pathetic and not worthy of happiness. One thing is definite.

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<v Speaker 1>Gretchen believed in karma, and therefore we can take some

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<v Speaker 1>comfort knowing. But every day you spend in prison will

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<v Speaker 1>be as horrific as the murder you committed. You can

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<v Speaker 1>never be forgiven. You are disgusting. David Anthony is scheduled

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<v Speaker 1>to be released from prison. You will be one years

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