1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Last night on the Senate floor, New Jersey Senator Bob Menendez, 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: it is our solemn duty to put aside our ideology, 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: to turn off Rush Limbaugh and leave politics in the cloakroom. 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: Our vote on this groundbreaking legislation comparable to Social Security 5 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,159 Speaker 1: and medicare. That's all we need to hear from. The 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: guy is just a buffoon. But here we are. They 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: got their rolling, I mean they have. They're on track 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: now for their Christmas Eve at nine pm vote. And 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: still Senator Bob Menendez of New Jersey has to tell 10 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: the Republicans stop listening to me, stop being ideological, ideological, 11 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: which is all the Democrats are being here, pure ideology. 12 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: I got a I got an email note from a 13 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: friend today. Is it hopeless? Is it over? What do 14 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 1: we do? I I'd like to go out and raise 15 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: some money, but everybody's tapped out? Is it? Raising money 16 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: is not what's necessary? Right now? We've had two rallies 17 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: in Washington. It's obvious that that that members of the 18 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: Democrat Party in about the House and Senate don't care 19 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: one way or another about what the public opinion of 20 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: this is. That's been obvious for a long time. I 21 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: still think, folks, what you ought to do is just 22 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 1: pound these people with emails, phone calls, facts is whatever, 23 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: Pound every damn one of them at their offices from 24 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: now until health freeze is over, Before, during, and after 25 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: all of this. Just keep pounding them. Uh that it 26 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: will make you feel better, and who knows, it may 27 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: have some effect at some point down the road. But 28 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: this is just outrageous. What is all happening. What we 29 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: are learning there are unrepealable aspects of the bill, particularly 30 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: a medical exchange plan that really sets the stage for 31 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: the government takeover of health care. It cannot be repealed. 32 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: There's no a rule has been violent, constitution has been violated. 33 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: There is so much of this that is illegal, and 34 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: somebody is going to have to bring the charge. And 35 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: I expect that if it's if it's if it's done, 36 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: If somebody does challenge this, it's And I have to 37 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: come from some of these states that are being left 38 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: out of all the goodies. In New York, Bloomberg is 39 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: fit to be tied, Patterson's fit to be tied. Uh, 40 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,119 Speaker 1: And in in a lot of Georgia, I mean they're 41 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: being left out. A lot of states are being left 42 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: out of this so a lot more detail in this 43 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: as the as the program unfolds. But ideology. The reason 44 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: Menendez goes to the floor. The sent I says, do 45 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: not listen to Rush Limbaugh is because ideology is the 46 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: only way we're gonna beat this. Ideology is the only 47 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: way people in mass numbers are gonna be made to 48 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: understand just what this is and what it's about. Now, 49 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: we can go through individual aspects of the bill, which 50 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: we will do today, but that's been done at infinitum. Uh, 51 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: and it just it ends up sounding like mishmash people 52 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: here it all runs together. Uh, the ideological approach, this 53 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: is liberals. This is what liberalism is. Liberalism means the 54 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: loss of economic prosperity and individual freedom and so forth. 55 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: That's the message. Menendez knows it, and that's why he 56 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: is asking people to to not listen to me. DINGI 57 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: har Re invoked Rodney King on the Senate floor this morning. 58 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: There's a lot of tension in the Senate. I would 59 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: hope that everyone would go back to their gentlemanly ways, 60 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: and I would hope that I was trying to figure 61 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: out how to say this gentlemanly ways. I've said to 62 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: a number of people, Rodney King, let's just all try 63 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: to get along. So we really need to do this 64 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: is a very difficult time the next day or so, 65 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: and let's try to work through this, which is a 66 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: which is a laugh. We're dealing with some of the 67 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: most hand handed, hard handed ideologues, mean spirited extremists to 68 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: come down the pike, and this is what they always 69 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: do when the going gets tough. Can't we all just 70 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: get along? Can't we just can't we just stop all 71 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: this partisanship little Obama was going to handle. Let Mitch 72 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: McConnell agreed with him. Let me just add to my 73 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: good friend the majority later. He and I have an 74 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: excellent relationship. We speak a number of times in the 75 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: course of every day and have no animosity whatsoever. And 76 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: we are working on an agreement that will give certainty 77 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: to the way to end this session, and hopefully the 78 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: two of us together can be recommending something that makes 79 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: sense for both sides in the not too distant future. 80 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: All right, there's the Republican leader in the in the Senate. 81 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: What Mr Snurdle, What well? I I played that not 82 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: to just infuriate you. I played it to to inform you. Uh, 83 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: I'll go back to this email that I got. Um. 84 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: In fact, you know, I want to print out the reply. 85 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember to reply. The email I got 86 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: was from somebody who has really been invested financially and 87 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: trying to stop this, has been raising a lot of 88 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: money and was asking me if if, if all is lost. 89 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: And I'll find the reply to the email after the 90 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,559 Speaker 1: break and share it, share it with you. Um. Now, 91 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: here's let's let's go ahead and stick with this. Let's 92 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: go to soundbites four or five and six. Uh, this 93 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: is yesterday on this program. This is me. Now, certainly 94 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: just send me. Violate the rules, violate the rules. They've 95 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: just stood the Constitution upside. Don't you think I give 96 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: a rat's rear end about violating a Senate rule on 97 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: when reconciliation cannon can't be used here? Senator Jim Dement's 98 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: Republican South Carolina last night on the Senate floor. There's 99 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: one provision that I found particularly troubling, and it's under 100 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: a section see title limitation on changes to this subsection, 101 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: and I quote it shall not be in order in 102 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: the Senate or the House of Representatives to consider any 103 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: bill resolution, amendment, or conference report that would repeal or 104 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: otherwise change this subsection. This is not legislation. It's not law. 105 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: This is a rule change. It's a pretty big deal. 106 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: We will be passing a new law and at the 107 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: same time creating a Senate rule that makes it out 108 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: of order to amend or even repeal the law. And 109 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: this is not how Senate rules are made. Now, this 110 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: is um You know, the language is tough, but this 111 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: is how dictators operate. This is how people who know 112 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: that nobody wants what they're offering operate. People who have 113 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: power and who do not, and who are very well 114 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: aware that they're running against the wishes and against the 115 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: grain of the people they supposedly governed, make it impossible 116 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: for those people to do anything about it in any 117 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: illegal way. This is not how you change the rules 118 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: of the Senate. De Mint continued, I'm not even sure 119 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: that it's constitutional, but if it is, it most certainly 120 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: is a Senate rule. I don't see why the majority 121 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: party wouldn't put this in every bill. If you like 122 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: your law, you most certainly would want it to have 123 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: force for future Senates. I mean, we want to bind 124 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: future Congresses. This goes to the fundamental purpose of Senate 125 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: rules to prevent a tyrannical majority from trampling the rights 126 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: of the minority or of future Congresses. Okay, that's gim 127 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: de mint on the floor of the Senate last night. Now, 128 00:06:55,240 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: why are they making this provision unrepealable. It's what we're 129 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: talking about here, is the Independent Medicare Advisory Board making 130 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: it impossible or difficult for future congress is to legislate 131 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: in that area to to to change this. Because Bill 132 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: Crystal points it out, the heart of the bill is 133 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: the attempt to get control of health care permanently in 134 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: the hands of federal bureaucrats who would allegedly know better 135 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: than doctors and patients what's good for them, and who 136 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: would cut access to care and the quality of care. 137 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: So there's more money left over for various big government 138 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: liberal social programs down the way. But this is just outrageous. 139 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: What is happening? I was I was telling Snargely this morning, 140 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: usually on our last day of the last show of 141 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: the of the year, we're not dealing with this kind 142 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: of stuff. The Congress has gone home. Nobody's messing around 143 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: with liberty or freedom and not there not passing new laws, 144 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: and we yuck it up and we have some jollys, 145 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: and it just doesn't seem the whole jolly time here, 146 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: given what is at stake. But nevertheless, we're gonna try 147 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: to combine elements in the in the program today. But 148 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: Jim demand Is is upset. But of course this doesn't 149 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: get carried much outside the Senate floor by the state 150 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: controlled media. So aside from people like you in this 151 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: audience and UH and readers of various conservative blogs and 152 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: so forth, vast majority of American people have no clue 153 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: about this. Yet It's very simple. Folks win, Barack Obama 154 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: and the Democrats win. America loses big time. Now here's 155 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: the Here's the email that I that I received ere rush. 156 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 1: I still think with sufficient public outrage, we could stop 157 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: the vote in the House, but it's proving an incredibly 158 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: hard to raise the money we need to reach and 159 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: mobilize the people who are not in your audience. Everybody's 160 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: tapped out and resigned. Do you still think we will prevail? 161 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: Here's what I wrote back, and it was a stream 162 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: of consciousness reply. I said, dear such and such, I 163 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: said yesterday that no amount of public outrage would matter. 164 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: And I believe that we've never seen this before, We've 165 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: never been involved in anything like this before. The main 166 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: reason public outrage won't work is not the public's fault. 167 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: It's a combination of mainly a dictatorial frame of mind 168 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: the Democrats all have now and the Republican Party just 169 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: refuses to get emotionally engaged. Here are outraged by it. 170 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: Their responses are barely above a flat line. And I 171 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: can point you to Mitch McConnell's a very gentlemanly remark 172 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: and reply to Harry Reid who asked if we can 173 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: all just be like Rodney King and just get along 174 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: in the midst of the destruction of the US health 175 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: care system. We're obsessed with being polite. And I know why. 176 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: It's because we don't want to anger the moderates. The moderates, 177 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,119 Speaker 1: you're afraid that if we start criticizing Democrats are Obama, 178 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: that they'll run away to the Democrats when they're fleeing 179 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: Democrats in droves. Now. Now, there have been two attempts 180 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: to rally people at the Capitol in opposition to this, 181 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: and the and the reason was that emails, phone calls 182 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 1: and faxes were not having an impact. It was theorized 183 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: that bodies on the ground, boots on the ground, people 184 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: in the faces of members of the House and Senate 185 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: was what it would take to make a difference. But 186 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: those two rallies failed because they essentially didn't happen. Who 187 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: knew about it. The mainstream media didn't report them. Nancy 188 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: Pelosi made sure that the vast majority of people showed up, 189 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: and these rallies never got anywhere near the capital. The 190 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: Democrats knew that all these protesters are being asked and 191 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: cajole to show up, so they were able to tell 192 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: themselves it wasn't genuine and the and the numbers reported 193 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: were not all that repressive. I mean that the peasants 194 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: didn't show up with any pitchforks. And so the Democrats 195 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: they listened to all this and they hear all this hubbub, 196 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: and they listened to all this opposition, and they know 197 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: they're getting it, but they didn't see a whole lot 198 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: of it in Washington. And it's it's because it wasn't 199 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: permitted to get close to them. I'm not do not 200 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: misunderstand me. The people showed up did a great thing. 201 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that the game was rigged before they 202 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: even got there. And I told this person to send 203 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: me the email. I'm gonna urge people to day to 204 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: continue to flood members offices, especially their local ones when 205 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: they go home for the Christmas break. But we we're 206 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: we're we're dealing here, essentially with people who have a 207 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: dictatorial frame of mind. The public opinion is irrelevant, It 208 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. The election to them is still a year away. 209 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: If this were next September October and all this is happening, 210 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: you'd have a entirely different dynamic going on. Uh. The 211 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: inside the Beltway commentary it still doesn't see this as 212 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: anything other than just another day at the political office. 213 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: I was watching the Fox News All Stars last night 214 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: during the roundtable discussion, and you had you had uh 215 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: uh Steve Hayes from the Weekly Standard, Charles Crowdhammer and 216 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: Mara Liasson, and Hayes and Crowdhammer were involved in the 217 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: guts and the gory details in the imdeology and they 218 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: were spelling out exactly how atrocious all this deal making was, 219 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: all this whorring, all the bribery, all the prostitution that 220 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: was going on, all the buying of votes, all the 221 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: buying off states, all the buying of governors and so forth, 222 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: and they are making, I mean, the scoring big time points. 223 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 1: There's Mara Liasson, who I think I like her. I've 224 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: met her a couple of times, but she's typical of 225 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: the inside the Beltway media crowd. There's nothing special about 226 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: this other than it's a huge piece of legislation for Obama. 227 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: But there's nothing going on here that doesn't always happen. 228 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: This is what legislation is. Senators by votes, they trade votes, 229 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: they do so this is It was perfectly understandable to 230 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: her that legislation had nothing to do with constituents. It 231 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: was perfectly understandable to her that legislation had nothing to 232 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: do with the substance of it. Legislation was all about process. 233 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: And the people studying this and reporting on this in 234 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: the state control media, that's their obsession, the process of it. 235 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: Will Obama in Ken Obama secure a victory, Ken Obama 236 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: reform health care. They haven't dug into the guts of this, 237 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: and they ignore people who have. This will destroy the 238 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: country as you and I know it. This will destroy 239 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 1: the greatest health care system in the world. As you 240 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: and I are aware, this will forever change the relationship 241 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: that you and I have with our doctors because the 242 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: government's going to be a very powerful middleman. There are 243 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: death panels back in this bill, and that this is 244 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: what Harry Reid says, cannot be repealed. We are going 245 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: to ration care. We're gonna make sure that's only the 246 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: approved people get the kind of care that might prolonged life. 247 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: It's all in there. None of this matters. It's all 248 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: about the process. It's all about the political victory. Can 249 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: Obama bring it home? Meanwhile, the country is undergoing one 250 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: of the most major transformations since its founding. I went 251 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: and looked up a number of things, things that the 252 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: founding fathers found outrageous, and there were the tipping point 253 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: for them, and they weren't, I mean, the things that 254 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: caused them to rebel and found this country. And they 255 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: were nothing compared to what is happening in this piece 256 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: of legislation alone. I know people think money fundraising is important, 257 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: and it always is. But if you have to raise 258 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: and spend money right now, if you have to raise 259 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: and spend money to raise temperatures on this after all 260 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: this time and all this effort that it seems unnecessary, 261 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: seems like money would would not be necessary. If you 262 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: look at all the polling data, you don't need to 263 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: make more people aware. There's not one poll that shows 264 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: a majority anywhere in favor of this. I've always thought 265 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: pounding the individual provisions in the bill is okay, but 266 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: it's the wrong way to go because it all becomes 267 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: a blur. I hit this idiot logically at all times. 268 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: H And what Harry read has done in limiting CEO 269 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: salaries of insurance company exects limiting shareholder profits and operating expenses. 270 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: And if you're just joining us, you need to miss that. Yesterday, 271 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: David Axelrod assuring the left that are that are upset 272 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: that they're gonna be forced to buy insurance from a 273 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: private sector insurance companies, don't worry about it, he said, 274 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: we have running there and we've limited CEO salaries in 275 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: this legislation. Or really that they didn't take TARP money. 276 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: What gives you the right to do that. They're just 277 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: doing it. They are going to limit shareholder profits and 278 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: police operating expenses. Eventually that drive them out of business, 279 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: which is the ultimate aim here. Now that is there's 280 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: no other definition for this than pure fascism, which is ideological, 281 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: and it needs to be called as such. Harry Reid 282 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: has has written language saying many of the provisions of 283 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: the bill cannot be repealed. This whole thing is un American, 284 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: it is unconstitutional, and it's not time to be polite 285 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: with this. It's not time to be gentlemanly and let 286 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: the Democrats have their sway on this. There would have 287 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: been people with pitchforks at the Capitol if elected officials 288 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: had felt and expressed the same degree of outrage and 289 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: anger that their constituents feel and are expressing. In the end, however, 290 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: I still think, I still think there's a chance for 291 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: defectors somewhere along the line, and I think at some 292 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: point they're going to have to resort to a mechanism 293 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: whereby they get fifty one votes instead of sixty, because 294 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: I think at some point and Senate they're not gonna 295 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: be able to get sixty in the House is a 296 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: whole another ballgame, But the fight is not over even 297 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: if it does pass. Our guys ought to be leading 298 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: the protests carrying the pitchforks. Instead, they're saying things like 299 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: they're concerned, disappointed, surprised. That doesn't cut it, because that 300 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: doesn't provide leadership, and leadership is necessary. People need an 301 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: outlet and a vessel for their anger in their own party. 302 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: Not one Democrat senator with integrity or courage, not one. 303 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 1: He would only take one Democrats senator out of sixty 304 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: to object to all this, this horrendous piece of legislation, 305 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: and it would die. Just one Democrats senator out of 306 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: sixty to show some integrity, show some courage, and nobody 307 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: anywhere thinks it will happen. It's not even being discussed. Now. 308 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: What does that tell you about Democrats? And yet it 309 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: is always the Republicans who are portrayed. Is closed minded, 310 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: walking in lockstep? What a laugh. We now see what 311 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: walking in lockstep is really all about, and we see 312 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: what actually is important, and it's not the country. And 313 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: this takes me into yet another fear that I have 314 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: about all this. There are a lot of things that 315 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: worry me about about the transformation of country with this 316 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 1: health care, whether the relationship between uh US and our 317 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: doctors and the relationship between US and our government. But 318 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: there's also another aspect of this, and that is the 319 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: relationship between US and us between citizens. We will from 320 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: now on be rivals. We will be competitors for federal 321 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: money for health care for our children, uh permission from 322 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: federal powers that be for each medical visit and procedure. 323 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: And this is going to destroy folks, the traditional American 324 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: live and let live attitude towards everybody, because it will 325 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: inevitably become me against you when services are fewer, when 326 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: costs go higher, and it's your kid, You're going to 327 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: become competitive with your neighbor when you have to go 328 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: in and negotiate with some federal bureaucrat to see that 329 00:18:55,480 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: it's your kid that gets treated. And that's where we're headed. This, this, 330 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:06,959 Speaker 1: this massive new entitlement, is going to obliterate tolerance, this 331 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: whole notion of live and let live. The way to 332 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: summarize that as tolerance, and there isn't gonna be any 333 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: more of that. Every American is gonna be looking at 334 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: neighbors with jealousy, resentment, and anger at whatever medical care 335 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: he or she receives. That cause not everybody's going to 336 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: get the same. That's the way socialism works. It never 337 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: ends up that way. There is never equality of outcome. 338 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: There is never sameness, even though that's the objective. There 339 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: are going to be differences and it's gonna lead to big, 340 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: big problems. Every American is gonna end up being very 341 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: extremely judgmental about the behavior of fellow citizens that would 342 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: in any way be considered risky, because the attitude will be, 343 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: you're taking money from my family's future medical care.