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Speaker 1: A quick note, This is episode five of a six

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Speaker 1: part series. If you haven't heard the prior episodes, we

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Speaker 1: recommend going back and starting there. It should also be

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Speaker 1: noted that this series explores sexualized imagery involving miners and violence.

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Speaker 1: Please take care when listening. How did you feel when

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Speaker 1: you heard the name Patrick Carrey?

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Speaker 2: Overall like sharkeed, Like completely sharcked.

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Speaker 1: I was sitting with Kayla back where the story began.

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Speaker 1: We were in her living room, a couple miles from

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Speaker 1: the basement where Patrick Carey had wreaked havoc on the

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Speaker 1: young woman of Levett Town. Kayla remember, was the first

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Speaker 1: person to learn from her father that she was on

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Speaker 1: the website, and she later came to learn that Patrick

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Speaker 1: Carey was the person behind the faked photos of her.

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Speaker 2: This kid would DM me all the time and also

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Speaker 2: like swipe up on my Instagram stories. He never gave

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Speaker 2: strange vibes to me, So when I heard his name,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, are we thinking the same Patrick Carrey? Because

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Speaker 2: that's insane?

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Speaker 1: And how did learning who was behind the website change

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Speaker 1: your perspective on the situation.

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Speaker 3: I think that made it even worse for Kayla.

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Speaker 1: His actions had real world consequences.

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Speaker 2: It completely altered the way that I thought about my body.

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Speaker 2: I used to feel so confident about it. I felt

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Speaker 2: I started having eating issues. I would eat two baits

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Speaker 1: What Patrick had done to Kayla's pictures online worked on

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Speaker 1: Kayla offline. He had manipulated her images, played with and

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Speaker 1: altered her body to suit himself, and in turn, she

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Speaker 1: was changed. She had to figure out who she was

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Speaker 1: now in the aftermath of his campaign. She sought help,

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Speaker 2: It took a long time for me to get there.

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Speaker 2: It took a lot out of me, and I'm never

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Speaker 2: going to get the old person back, like I'm a

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Speaker 1: In a comic book, this would be her origin story.

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Speaker 4: This is New at five right here a disturbing arrest

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Speaker 4: on Long Island. Some of the details are just too

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Speaker 4: graphic for TV, but what we can tell you is

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Speaker 4: that a young man is charge of posting explicit images

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Speaker 4: of underage women online, allegedly taking their faces in personal

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Speaker 4: info and then posting them to pornographic websites.

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Speaker 1: In December twenty twenty two, Patrick Carey pleaded guilty. During

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Speaker 1: his court appearances, he had to face not only the judge,

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Speaker 1: covered by local New York news.

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Speaker 4: The mother of one victim sat in court today as Carrie,

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Speaker 4: twenty years old, faced dozens of charges including child pornography, harassment,

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Speaker 5: Because this is just terrible. It's horrible, and it's affected

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Speaker 5: these girls, like you can't even imagine. These are good girls,

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Speaker 5: they're in college. It's just horrible what this animal has done.

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Speaker 2: I was wearing this long gray dress because I didn't

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Speaker 1: When Kayla showed up at the Nassau County Courthouse, she

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Speaker 2: I didn't want any part of my skin showing because

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Speaker 1: She walked into the building by herself and made her

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Speaker 2: It was really like gloomy in there, and it was

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Speaker 1: Kayla froze. He was just.

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Speaker 2: There with no handcuffs, no lawyer next to him, all

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Speaker 3: Busy, so nobody could come with me. And I was

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Speaker 2: And then I saw him, and it was like a

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Speaker 1: It had been more than two years since she had

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Speaker 1: Kayla found herself in the same room as the person

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Speaker 2: He's maybe didn't physically hurt someone, but he mentally and

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Speaker 2: I felt like it was like a smack in the face, like, oh,

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Speaker 3: I have to deal with him.

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Speaker 2: And for that to be the first court appearance that

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Speaker 2: it really set the tone that like, okay, like I

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Speaker 1: One day in court, a father of one of the

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Speaker 1: victims was physically restrained from trying to attack Patrick. At

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Speaker 1: another prosecutors read several of Patrick's more graphic posts out loud,

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Speaker 1: visibly distressed. Kayla showed up almost every day. Then she

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Speaker 2: Was actually in the shower. It was like struggling to

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Speaker 3: And I was so low.

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Speaker 2: I was like sitting down in my shower, just letting

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Speaker 2: and I took out my phone and I just started

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Speaker 2: I wrote the whole entire thing, partably in five minutes.

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Speaker 2: I said it to myself three times and I was like,

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Speaker 1: And hearings, victims are invited to share an impact statement

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Speaker 1: to help the judge determine the correct punishment. Kayla was

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Speaker 1: She felt nervous, but she got up from her seat

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Speaker 2: I think the shaking wasn't the nerves, it was the

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Speaker 2: I stared directly at him, and he would not look

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Speaker 1: You can say no to the next question, but we

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Speaker 2: Thinks I hear it here, I can safely say you

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Speaker 2: the victims. You had to sit behind an electronic device

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Speaker 2: for that, I'll never forgive you your name, will forever

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Speaker 2: give me night and haunt me. You have non idea

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Speaker 3: To your face.

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Speaker 2: You make me sick like you make others, and I

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Speaker 2: Now I have to heal my inner child because you

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Speaker 2: couldn't hold back on your sexual desires and thoughts.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel reading that again?

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Speaker 2: Empowered?

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Speaker 1: Empowered in what way.

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Speaker 2: That I was able to actually stand up in front

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Speaker 1: There were dozens of young women who were targeted by

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Speaker 1: him on that website, but only a few of them

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Speaker 1: decided to be involved in the criminal case. Why did

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Speaker 2: Because someone needs to speak out. I already went through

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Speaker 2: The extent that it happened in, Yeah, no, I couldn't

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Speaker 1: From iHeart Podcasts, Bloomberg and Kaleidoscope, this is Leavettown.

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Speaker 3: I'm Olivia Cavell and I'm Maggie Murphy. Then it was

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Speaker 3: Patrick Carey's turn to speak. Patrick wouldn't talk to us

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Speaker 3: for this podcast, so we're having a voice actor read

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Speaker 3: some of his statement here.

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Speaker 6: Before the court. I can say endlessly, how I regret

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Speaker 6: what I have done for the rest of my life.

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Speaker 6: How I wish I could take it all back, not

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Speaker 6: can't chalk up my awful behavior to being a young,

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Speaker 6: dumb kid. I have to address my own social and

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Speaker 6: mental issues that got me here in the first place.

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Speaker 6: Only consistently within a lifestyle of discipline, empathy, and routine

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Speaker 6: some capacity of trust. And finally to my many victims

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Speaker 6: be that I do not expect forgiveness. I'm just sorry.

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Speaker 2: He apologized, and like that's worth nothing to me. You

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Speaker 3: Since Patrick had pleaded guilty to multiple charges, including three felonies,

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Speaker 3: The Nassau County District attorneys, Melissa Scannell and Kelsey Laura,

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Speaker 3: Burner emails are commonly used by people who want to

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Speaker 7: The password was of sufficient uniqueness that I could, you know,

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Speaker 7: He tuns through emails uses burners all the time. Some

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Speaker 7: When it comes to investigating anything, really, they always talk

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Speaker 3: Finally Will had found evidence connecting the website where women

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Speaker 7: At that point, I was like, well, where ours is

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Speaker 3: sheriff's department in Louisiana, where Scott had once been arrested

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Speaker 3: for cannabis possession. They requested a copy of his mugshot

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Speaker 3: and the police report. Palm then created a website called

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Speaker 3: Scott Trent coostera dot com, which splashed the mugshot across

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Speaker 3: the landing page. Several hackers and trolls then spammed the

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Speaker 3: tributing website with the link to Scott Trentkcoster dot com

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00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 3: and began harassing Scott's family with incessant phone calls. One day,

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00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 3: the hackers say the burner number they created specifically to

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00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 3: target Scott and his family rang. The voice on the

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Speaker 3: end of the line was shrill PI on Yellow Pages.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I am a PI.

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Speaker 3: What can I thank you for you? And while we

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Speaker 3: don't know for sure if it was Scott, he appeared

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Speaker 3: to be trolling them back, playing them at their own game.

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Speaker 2: I just want to be shored.

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Speaker 4: Can I do your certificate number?

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Speaker 3: The tools of the efficient harassment machine that Scott had

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Speaker 3: created with the website were now being turned against him.

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Speaker 3: It was almost like Scott was this Scooby Doo villain

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Speaker 3: with his mask pulled off. He tried to bat off

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Speaker 3: redditors and hackers who told me that Scott ended up

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Speaker 3: putting a filter in his name on the site, so

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Speaker 3: if they posted a comment mentioning it, it would vanish.

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Speaker 3: Will and others also went after Scott's income source by

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Speaker 3: reporting the site to an online advertising company, which pulled

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Speaker 3: the website's ads. Will then pressure another one of the

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Speaker 3: website's providers, Di doos Guard to take it down, and then,

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Speaker 3: after weeks of Will in the Reddit Army's efforts, it

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Speaker 3: was gone.

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Speaker 7: The website experienced an outage, it was no longer retrievable

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Speaker 7: on the internet.

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Speaker 3: De Oscard confirmed to us that it cut its relationship

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Speaker 3: with the website around that time. It didn't say why

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Speaker 3: the site went dark.

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Speaker 7: I think at that point I was like, oh, yeah, finally,

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Speaker 7: you know, someone's sort of taken a closer look, or

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Speaker 7: the hosting providers decided to kick them off, or whatever.

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Speaker 7: Someone's done their job somewhere along the lines. But as

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Speaker 7: far as like popping our champagne model or anything like that,

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Speaker 7: there was nothing like that. But I was quietly, I

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Speaker 7: was quietly pleased that I managed to get that dump

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Speaker 7: taken off the internet.

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Speaker 3: Will doesn't think that this should become a common practice,

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Speaker 3: and that all websites should be shut down after a

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Speaker 3: public campaign. But there are exceptions to every rule, and

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Speaker 3: to him, this was one.

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Speaker 7: I think there needs to be an honest conversation about

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Speaker 7: what the platform is being used rede and whether that

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Speaker 7: includes being a safe haven for people who choose to

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Speaker 7: share child sexual assault material. I think law enforcement need

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Speaker 7: to decide at what point as the saturation of content

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Speaker 7: so much so that we need to involve ourselves, Like

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Speaker 7: this isn't just a pornography website, it is for severe

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Speaker 7: internet harassment.

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Speaker 3: In this case, law enforcement didn't appear to get involved,

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Speaker 3: and so the online vigilantes banded together and took the reins.

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Speaker 3: But when this happens online, even among the so called

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Speaker 3: good guys, you never really know who's behind the keyboard. Pompompurin,

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Speaker 3: who'd helped coordinate the attack on Scott Trank Costa has

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Speaker 3: since been arrested himself. In the real world, he was

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Speaker 3: a twenty year old from Peaschool, New York named con

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Speaker 3: Brian Fitzpatrick. While Connor was trolling Scott, the FBI was

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Speaker 3: tracking Connor for running breech forums. They ended up arresting

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Speaker 3: Connor and charging him with selling stolen data. He pleaded guilty.

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Speaker 3: It turned out when they confiscated his devices, the FBI

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Speaker 3: found child sexual abuse material on his computer. Yeah, the

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Speaker 3: guy going after the other guy for sexual abuse materials

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Speaker 3: seems to have been consuming similar stuff. Palm is now

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Speaker 3: twenty two years old, and after a bit of back

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Speaker 3: and forth, in the end he declined to be interviewed

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Speaker 3: about his case. What we know is that he was

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Speaker 3: sentenced to twenty years of supervised release, with the first

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Speaker 3: two years under house arrest, but the government argued that

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00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 3: the sentence was too lenient, and an appeals court agreed,

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Speaker 3: ordering that he be re sentenced. Also, as part of

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Speaker 3: his punishment, he can't use any device connected to the Internet.

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Speaker 3: The only way I could communicate with him was through

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Speaker 3: letters sent to his friend, who then snuck them over

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Speaker 3: to him. From what I gather, his mum and dad

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00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 3: are really strict. If the redditors and hackers' motive was

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Speaker 3: to expose Scott, their efforts had the opposite effect. Since

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Speaker 3: the campaign began, Scott has gone further underground. I'm told

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Speaker 3: by one of the hackers who's seen Scott's financial statements

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Speaker 3: that he's been airbnb hopping, not staying in one place

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Speaker 3: for long, Olivia and I still haven't been able to

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Speaker 3: talk to him, except for one short email exchange. Early

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Speaker 3: in our reporting, I emailed Scott to say we intended

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Speaker 3: to name him in a print article we were doing

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Speaker 3: about the site. Scott responded. He said, quote, if somebody

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Speaker 3: does not wish to be named or does not wish

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Speaker 3: to talk, why are you going to mention them in

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Speaker 3: a story they did not agree to or even publish

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Speaker 3: it in the first place. Claim that people could now

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Speaker 3: have their images removed from his site for free. He

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Speaker 3: asked us not to quote name and shame him. Quote

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Speaker 3: we ask that you do not write your story and

537
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 3: instead focus on something more important rather than bringing attention

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00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 3: to such a sensitive matter and naming individuals publicly. And

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Speaker 3: then he signed off, calling me quote weirdo.

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Speaker 7: He makes himself out to be the victim. He's just

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Speaker 7: reverses the victim in a fender and makes himself out

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Speaker 7: to be the victim and all.

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Speaker 3: Of this right, and he's literally made the entire website

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Speaker 3: is about not only naming and shaming, but showing people

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Speaker 3: in their most intimate setting without their knowledge. Is that

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Speaker 3: irony is unbelievable.

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Speaker 7: It is It's such a weird projection thing going on there.

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Speaker 3: If Will's a terrier, then Scott's the bone he can't

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Speaker 3: dig up. Within just a couple of weeks of the

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Speaker 3: site going down, another popped up, same look, same picture's

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00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 3: new name, come on, Printed Picks was now tribute printedpicks

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00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 3: dot com. Claudia the reddit sloof, so she immediately sent

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Speaker 3: a complaint to the new site server network cloud Flare.

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Speaker 3: The next day, she says, she got an email from

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Speaker 3: a strange address. She didn't recognize. My email address was

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00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 3: supposed to be anonymous, so I was totally surprised, and

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00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 3: when I found out it was him, I was doubly surprised.

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Speaker 3: To her, it appeared to be from Scott. He seemed

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Speaker 3: to be angry that I submitted an abuse report. I

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Speaker 3: suspected that he was afraid that his domain would be

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Speaker 3: suspended again. Claudia showed us the screenshots of the emails. Basically,

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Speaker 3: the person writing to her wanted Claudia to back off.

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Speaker 3: The person taunted her, telling her to stop reporting child

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Speaker 3: sexual abuse material to the site's providers, telling her quote,

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Speaker 3: a fully closed email is not child abuse. I didn't

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00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 3: give it much important. I don't care that someone I

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00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 3: don't know tries to attack me with ridicule totally repulsive.

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Speaker 3: The two went back and forth, but then she says,

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Speaker 3: the person stopped responding. The new website has gone up

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Speaker 3: and down numerous times since the summer of twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: three under a few different URLs. Sometimes the site will

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00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 3: be frozen with a note splashed over it asking for

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Speaker 3: donations and Scott may be in legal trouble now. In

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Speaker 3: August twenty twenty four, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement

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Speaker 3: seesed the website and is actively investigating, it, told me,

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00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 3: but what exactly they're probing isn't clear. I periodically check

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Speaker 3: in with Scott's family. When I rang his mum in

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00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 3: October twenty twenty four, she told me that two Secret

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Speaker 3: Service agents had showed up looking for her son. They

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Speaker 3: claimed it was in response to threats he'd made online

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Speaker 3: against Presidents Joe Biden and Donald Trump. I'd seen a

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00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 3: similar threat posted on the tributing website. In a bizarre outburst,

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Speaker 3: Scott's mom said she told the Secret Service she hadn't

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Speaker 3: seen her son in months. The takedown notice on the

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Speaker 3: website says that it was seized in relation to a

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Speaker 3: law protecting the life of someone who might be in

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Speaker 3: imminent danger, and Florida, where the investigation is taking place,

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00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 3: is home to Trump, a previous target of assassinations. Scott's

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00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 3: mum and I talked about what he was like as

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Speaker 3: a kid, that even in his younger years, he was

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Speaker 3: very good with computers. He must have been. He helped

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Speaker 3: develop the website when he was a teenager, around the

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Speaker 3: same age as Patrick Carey, when he too was coming

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Speaker 3: of age along the darkest edges of the web.

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Speaker 6: So we are now at the location of someone you've

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Speaker 6: been tracking for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy has been a mystery and enigma for us,

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Speaker 1: Like we've had so many conversations about Scotch trink Costa,

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Speaker 1: who he is, why he does what he does. Maggie

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Speaker 1: and I still wanted to talk to Scott, so we

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Speaker 1: found his most recent address, a flashy high rise in

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Speaker 1: downtown Los Angeles.

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Speaker 6: Did you see ray in front of us? That's the

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Speaker 6: building glow.

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Speaker 1: This looks like sour on from all of the rings,

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00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: like a giant black monolith. Only to find out Scott

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00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: didn't live there anymore. Apparently he's still on the move.

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Speaker 1: But while we were in La looking for him.

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Speaker 3: We found something else, So we're heading to an apartment

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Speaker 3: block in downtown LA to go and see the apartment

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Speaker 3: that's registered is the address for soul e com Inc.

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Speaker 3: Which is the owner of Drawn Nudes dot Io.

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Speaker 1: We were hearing of more cases like the Livettown one

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Speaker 1: tied to a handful of deep fake apps. We wanted

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Speaker 1: to know who was behind them.

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Speaker 3: Hi, my name is Margie. Are you crying?

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Speaker 1: That's next time on the final episode of Livettown.

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Speaker 3: This series is reported and hosted by a Carvill and

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Speaker 3: Me Margie Murphy. Produced by Kaleidoscope, led by Julia Nutter,

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Speaker 3: edited by Nedda to Luis som Narni, Producing by Darren

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Speaker 3: luck Potts. Executive produced by Kate Osborne. Original composition and

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Speaker 3: mixing by Steve Bone Patrick Kerry Stateman is read by

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Speaker 3: actor Jackson Ark. Our Bloomberg editors are Caitlin Kenney and

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Speaker 3: Jeff Grocop. Some additional reporting by Samantha Stewart. Sage Bauman

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Speaker 3: is Bloomberg's executive producer and head of Podcasting. Kristin Powers

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Speaker 3: is our senior executive editor from iHeart. Our executive producers

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Speaker 3: are Tyler Klang and Nicki Etor. Levittown is a production

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