WEBVTT - Gregg Rosenthal Talks NFL and Off-Season Moves 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:08.520 From the King of Sports Books comes the King Sports 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:19.000 Podcast Unleashed, presented by bet MGM. Here's your host Jhannas 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:28.880 Papas and Olivia Harlan Decker. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome everyone. This 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:32.080 is Unleashed by bet MGM, the King of Sports Books. 0:00:32.120 --> 0:00:34.680 We are glad to have you with us. Jannas Pappas 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:38.320 joins me. Janice Selection Sunday is coming up and you know, 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:41.040 for the next month and a half, it's all we're 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:44.120 gonna talk about March Madness. Are you ready. It's all 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:47.800 about these amateur kids. I can't wait to watch them 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:52.559 play their hearts out for money they should and hopefully 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:55.520 will be getting. But there's no more of an exciting 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:58.680 event that happens in this country than March Madness. And 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:01.080 boy do we need it. We need you kids to 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:05.679 get our minds off of World War Three. You know 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:09.559 they are getting paid now, they're getting paid. Yeah, yeah, 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:13.400 you know, until I start seeing those those little endorsement 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:17.160 deals in real money. You know, let's get real money. 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:19.520 I don't believe it. You don't believe it now? Are 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:22.160 you one of those people who fills out so many 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:24.640 brackets or do you do one and really stick with 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:28.120 it and like hold yourself accountable. I do one. I 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:32.200 do one, and I hold myself accountable. Yeah. So, and 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:36.000 I like to always pick underdogs. Look, I bet, I 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:38.320 don't bet. Maybe it's just because it's too hard for 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:40.880 me to understand all the numbers. So I think that's 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:44.399 probably just an excuse. I just bet with underdogs and 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:47.160 with my heart, and that's why I always lose money. 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:50.040 I am good for bet MGM. That's why they hired me, 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:52.840 because I make the money. I bet you'll never guess 0:01:52.840 --> 0:01:55.160 how many what kind of person I am when it 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:57.640 comes to fill it out brackets about you'll never guess. 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:03.480 I bet you you create different social security numbers and 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:08.160 people you're like a fraudulent voter. There's probably like fifteen 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:12.040 Olivia Harland Deckers with fifteen social security numbers, so you 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:15.560 can bet fifteen times on fifteen different teams. You are 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:20.240 smart and you diversify, and that's why you're a winner, 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:24.440 and I'm a loser. I do. I'm guilty. I make 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:28.400 like three or four brackets because sometimes I'm like, I 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:30.840 can't have this one team screwm me. So I'm gonna 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:34.080 do one scenario where they lose, and I mean, you 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:36.239 know that's how I rolled, honest, kind of a sellout 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:39.240 over here. I'm telling you, I know Rodrigo's out there. 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:43.080 I know you gotta back up husband somewhere. Okay, you 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:46.280 don't remember anything, but you remember that joke I made 0:02:46.320 --> 0:02:49.280 a couple of weeks ago. That's the only thing I 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:53.000 remember Rodrigo because I got my private investigators out there 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:55.880 searching for him. Right now, we're down there in Mexico 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:59.040 checking every city and town to find who this guy is. 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:02.640 Oh god, I can't believe you remember that check. That 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:04.720 wasn't even a good one. Okay. You know what is 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:07.440 a good one is our man who's gonna win some 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.080 money every week. You know, y'ren't even do this bad 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:16.760 beat of the week, brad beat all the week. This 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:19.919 one goes out to Dustin from Tennessee. My man had 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:25.160 a ten team parlay just miss, just miss. He hit 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:27.880 nine of them, your honest. He narrowly lost on a 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:33.600 Texas Tech one point loss to Oklahoma State. Ouch. Oh, 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:36.640 just talk about a bad beat. But Dustin gets a 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:40.720 hundred bucks in bed MGM site credit to ease his pain. 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:43.640 Um man, that sucks. I'm always telling you honest, these 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:45.960 parlays are the only way to make big money, but 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:49.360 they always end up our bad beat winner. Yeah, but 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:52.520 there you go hundred bucks. Hopefully you can make it count, 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:55.320 make it worth it, you know, like saving Private Ryan. 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:59.240 You suffered great losses. Make it a pyrate victory. Just 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:01.960 turn it around down there, dusting makes something happen. You 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:05.600 can do what I believe in you. That's heavy, heavy stuff. 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:08.000 Speaking of heavy stuff, a lot of news broke today. 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:12.360 You know, we record on Tuesdays, and I'm beaming because 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:15.360 the news just broke that Aaron Rodgers is remaining in 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:20.719 Green Bay. Hallelujah, sing the chorus, get the cheese. I 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:23.480 am so excited. He agreed to a four year, two 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:27.080 hundred million dollar deal. Oh my gosh, it makes him 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:29.800 the highest paid NFL player ever. A hundred fifty three 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:33.320 million is guaranteed, plus his cap number goes down. It's 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:37.039 a huge move by the Packers front office. They also 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:41.120 franchise tag Dvante Adams. Now, Aaron certainly wanted a lot 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.479 of conversation about this decision, you know what I mean. 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:45.920 He's like, he's like a girl deciding between a couple 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:48.239 of prom dates. He doesn't shy away from the drama. 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:52.080 A couple of days ago he said he was torn. Obviously, 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:54.240 people thought Denver was where he would go to follow 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:58.200 his offensive coordinator, and Denver's roster is pretty stacked, so 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:00.720 not gonna lie. It would have been a good move, 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:04.880 but he's staying. He's loyal, he's staying. I can't complain. 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:07.120 He gives us the best chance to win. I had 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:09.400 a good feeling about this, be honest. When the Packers 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:12.719 brought in quarterback coach Tom Clements, he came out of 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.919 retirement a couple of weeks ago. Aaron loves this guy. 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:18.800 They are tight, and Tom Clements wasn't coming out of 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:22.599 retirement for Jordan's love. So this is exciting. This is 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:24.799 really exciting. It's a big day. And then, of course 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.160 to put a cap on this that everyone was kind 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:29.560 of keeping an eye on the Broncos, Well, good thing 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:31.080 they had an eye on him and had their ear 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:35.160 to the ground because Russell Wilson is going to Denver. 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:39.239 I mean, what a day. There's so much to unpack 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:41.520 here and we're going to bring in someone who knows 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:45.560 all about it, NFL Networks, Greg Rosenthal. He is joining us. 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.200 He was just at the combine. He's gonna fill us 0:05:48.200 --> 0:05:51.000 in on everything that happened at the combine. But honest, 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:53.920 those two big pieces of news, what are your initial thoughts. 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:56.840 I'm kind of speechless, well, never speechless, but you know 0:05:56.880 --> 0:06:02.599 what I mean, Yeah, you could talk. I am I'm 0:06:02.640 --> 0:06:05.960 excited for Green Bay fans, I'm excited for Denver, and 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:09.760 I am very upset as a Giants fan. I was 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:13.320 hoping that we would see Wilson in a Giants jersey, 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:17.280 but now I gotta look at this dukie once again, 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:20.000 or it's a draft pick. I don't know. Maybe we 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:23.080 could talk to our esteemed guests about it, but I 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:24.480 don't know what the Giants are gonna do. And we're 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:26.280 going with Daniel Jones again. I mean, we didn't make 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:28.640 a move, we got draft picks. What are we doing 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:34.159 at the quarterback position. It's just another disappointing offseason. That's 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:35.800 the way it looks like it's turning out. As a 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:39.440 Giants fan. But congratulations to you like you guys haven't 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:45.359 enjoyed enough recently. Unbelievable, unbelievable, So congrats to Denver. Denver's 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:47.040 got a Denver's got a good look right now. I 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:50.000 mean Russell Wilson thirty three years old, these as old 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:52.880 as Jesus was at his peace. So thirty three is 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:59.760 a man pee. Now, I've never heard that joke for that, 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.599 like one every comedian might have in their back pocket. 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:05.479 That's pretty good. The thirty three is always in the 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.159 back pocket. And you either got a Jesus joke or 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:12.600 a Larry Bird joke ready to go? Oh god, that's good. Yeah. No, 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:15.640 Wilson and Denver is great. They have an all pro 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:18.880 left tackle, they have a great wide receiver room, they 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:21.600 have a great tight end and no a fan. I 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:23.480 I think the Broncos are ready to go. They might 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:26.160 get von Miller back from the Rams. I mean, there's 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.080 there's a lot that can happen with the Broncos. So 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:31.080 we will keep tabs on that, okay, honest, Well that 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:33.320 is the news for today. Now I want you to 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:37.080 go ahead and unleash on one thing, just one thing 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:40.600 you feel passionately about this week. You take off, friends, 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:48.320 It's all right. Let's talk about one of my favorite sports, 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:54.920 the UFC m n A NIX Martial Arts. I love 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:59.080 this sport. It's gotten so big. I don't know if 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:02.600 it needs the theatrics that we're watching right now. I 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:07.040 understand it's a growing, growing, growing, growing sport, and the 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:12.400 theatrics and the ship talking, you know, brings eyeballs, makes money. 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:15.720 But now it seems like the biggest star is filling 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:21.000 the shoes of the previous biggest star being Connor McGregor 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:25.200 and ship talking to a point where you start to 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:28.120 wonder as a fan, is this crossing the line now? 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:30.880 As you mentioned before before we got on air, that 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:34.160 if it makes me feel a little uncomfortable, then maybe 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:37.040 it is a little too far. I'm talking about Colby 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:40.880 Covington's this last week obviously big pay per view Gate again, 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:45.679 sold out arena again. He's become a star, Kobe Covington's. 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:49.440 I love watching him fight. This was an amazing storyline that, 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:53.120 in my opinion, didn't need the ship talking to the 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:56.480 level that Colby takes it to to sell it because 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:59.840 you had two former teammates and best friends who have 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:03.800 now become rivals fighting each other. You know, they were 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:07.319 former training partners, they were part of the same team. 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:11.160 It was a rivalry between gym's and former friends and 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:16.520 two great fighters who put on exciting fights, and Colby 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:20.720 just he talks about people's kids, he talks about people's wives, 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:24.320 he talks about their marital status. I mean to me, 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:26.800 it just seems like it's crossing the line. And it's 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:30.439 akin to when McGregor, you know, started throwing things at 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:33.760 busses and got arrested trying to hype his fight with Kabeb, 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.920 and then he's talking about Khabib's religion and things that 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:40.120 I just don't think you need to do. The sport 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:42.880 is big enough now that you don't have to appeal 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:46.760 to like the casual casual casual fan by turning it 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:50.320 into the Real Housewives. It's starting to get a little 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.839 to w w E for me, and I just think 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.079 the UFC has to do something. I think people need 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:58.760 to get fined. There is a line. I know, as 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:01.240 a comedian, I'm all about free speech and everything, but 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:04.160 there is a line, and talking about people's kids and 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:07.920 their wives and what kind of father a person is 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:13.480 is just going too far. So Colby, Colby, Covington, Colby Chaos. 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:16.480 I'm putting you onnoticed and you need to stop, and 0:10:16.520 --> 0:10:18.520 you need to go to church, my friend, and wash 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:22.400 that mouth out with salt. Okay, enough enough, let's clean 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:25.400 up the sport a little bit. That was good honesty. 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:28.760 You have a conscience. You you really don't like it 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:32.080 to get ugly, and I like that about you. Mine 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.560 is going to seem a little counterintuitive to that, because 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:37.280 I know this guy is getting a ton of crap 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.360 right now, and I don't want to pile on it. 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:42.040 I really don't. But as a professional athlete, if you're 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:44.640 not performing, you are a fair game. But I would 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.480 never call anyone a name. So for my unleashed I'm 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.480 going to take things over to the NBA. Like a 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.640 lot of people, I had a feeling the Lakers and 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:56.040 Russell Westbrook would be a bad fit, but wow, I 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:59.280 did not think it would be this bad. I don't 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:01.319 think he's a Laker next year. I really don't. I 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:03.360 think he's out. I don't know why Lebron got to 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:06.160 run this team and bring him in. So let's look 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:10.000 at where they were before Russell Westbrook became a Laker. 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:13.280 Two years ago, Lakers won the title in the bubble. 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:15.959 Everyone acts like that was so long ago, that was recent. 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:18.880 Then they were nineteen and eight. Last year when Lebron 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:21.120 and A d were healthy. That was a great pairing. 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.400 No I d has health problems. Obviously, last year there 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:28.280 was no chemistry issue. Everyone got along. Lebron liked the gang. 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.280 They needed all these pieces that they had a trade 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:34.360 now to get Russell Westbrook big trade. It costs him 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:36.920 a bunch, and it turns out a lot of those 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:40.000 pieces were pretty necessary to keep this machine going and 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:45.079 compliment the new Lebron James, whose game is different than 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:47.199 it used to be. He's more on the perimeter, he's 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:49.560 crushing inside less. Now this is coming off a huge 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:54.839 fifty point game, but in general, in general, Lebron is 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:58.880 a different player, still extremely effective, but different schemes. So 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:01.560 Westbrook is on his four team in four years, and 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:05.120 you know it's not just his offensive numbers, shooting percentages, 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:08.480 turnovers that are concerning. But it's really to me when 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:10.920 I watched a lack of intensity and focus on the 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:14.320 defensive end, he's kind of roaming around. He's losing his 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:17.560 man and as a VET, he should be owning that 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:21.000 behind closed doors, taking responsibility. But we've yet to see 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:23.559 that take shape. Even back at U c. L A, 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:27.600 Westbrook wasn't known for incredible ball handling, dribbling or even shooting. 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:30.280 That was on his scouting report before he was drafted. 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:32.320 He was known as a good defender. He was the 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:35.040 PAP ten Defensive Player of the Year. He could get 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:37.760 to the rim and penetrate and always known for being 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:40.640 a hard working former walk on. Remember he's a former 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:43.920 walk on. But something isn't right in l A this 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:47.240 time around for Westbrook. And if you don't believe anything 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:50.760 I just said, turn on his postgame press conferences. That's 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:53.680 pretty cringe e because when the fans started booing, which 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:57.160 is horrible. I am very against home fans booing for 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:59.760 a team, like, come on, just drink your twelve dollar 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:02.400 here and cheer. That's what That's all you got to do. 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:05.920 It's easy. But afterwards they asked him if this would 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:08.120 bother him, you know What'd he take it home with him? 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:09.719 He said, no, I'm going to go home to my 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:14.000 beautiful family and move on. One great answer to your buddy, 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.480 Right if someone asked you, man, that suct they were 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:19.600 doing you. But you don't say that to your fan base, 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:21.800 to your own or to your coach, to your teammates. 0:13:21.800 --> 0:13:24.240 And that's who's all watching this. And I think it 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:26.560 shows a little bit of apathy. And then the other 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:29.319 night reporter asked, this must be a little different than 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.320 what you imagined, and he got very defensive, and he said, 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:35.360 I didn't have any expectations. And the reporter said, well, 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.880 you must have thought you'd make long playoff runs and 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.720 maybe win a championship, which is a very fair question. 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:43.360 And he got defensive. He said, you don't know what 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:45.640 I expected. You know, all this stuff, Well, you don't 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.960 come to play with Lebron James in purple and gold 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:51.559 and just think it's gonna be a whole hum year, 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:54.199 you know. And then recently this made me really sad. 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:55.679 He said he doesn't want to bring his kids to 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:59.000 games because people are booing him, they're calling him names. 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.800 That's horrible. But the reality is the Lakers are oh 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:06.560 in four versus the Clippers in their home arena since 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:09.960 getting Russell, even though most of those meetings have been 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:13.800 without Paul George and Kawhi Leonard. The Lakers are seven 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.560 games under five hundred, their ninth in the West. In 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.360 our trade deadline, Genie Buss took a stand saying they're 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:23.160 not cleaning up this mess. This is what Lebron wanted. 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:26.440 It's her team, but it's his mess. So they're kind 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:28.320 of going down with the ship here. They're the Lakers. 0:14:28.360 --> 0:14:31.360 They'll come back, but boy, this experiment did not work. 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:38.640 It is drama in Los Angeles right now. You couldn't 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.760 write a better script. It is the entertainment capital of 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:44.200 the world, and this is not going good. There are 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.760 big problems there. He doesn't want to be there. Lebron 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:49.880 doesn't want him to be there now. Yeah, I unleashed 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:53.200 about people going too far. It's not too far for 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:57.400 fans in New York or Los Angeles. Big market teams, 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:01.800 you know, high population density, that's what they do. You know, 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:04.960 they boo, they boo, They have expectations. You're not playing 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:08.200 in Okay See anymore where they're just happy to be 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:11.360 on television. They're happy to have Kevin Harland called their 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:13.960 game because they're making a playoff run. You're playing in 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:16.880 Los Angeles, you're playing with Lebron James, who's still I 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:20.040 mean that his story is not up there with Tom Brady, 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:23.800 what he's doing at his age, considering he started at eighteen. 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.480 The miles that's on that kid, and how many times 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:29.560 he's been in the playoffs and played in the Olympics 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:31.760 and to drop, like we just said, he's just coming 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:35.440 off a fifty plus point game. It's incredible to see 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:39.520 the shape he keeps himself in his standard and Russell 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:42.520 Westbrook is he's just not a winner, man, He's just 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.720 he's starting to make Kevin Durant look good for why 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:47.920 he left. You know, a lot of people gave Kevin 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.120 Durant a lot of slack for what he did, but 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:51.960 now people are starting to go, like, you know what, 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:55.080 maybe Kevin Durant was like, I can't play with this kid, 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:58.640 you know, like you said, the defense, the effort, and 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:01.160 for him to get mad at fan ends that they're 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:05.280 calling him Russell west Brick. I mean, come on, that's 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:08.440 that's basketball, that's not that's not talking about your family, 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:12.680 your kids. So he's he's overreacting and what an unleashed Olivia. 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:16.280 You are dead on. This is a problem, and Russell 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:19.160 Westbrook needs to be sent down to the Z League 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:22.840 if they had one right now, whoa wow, Yeah we 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:26.760 took a different stance on now. Yeah. Man, it'll just 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:28.960 be crazy if if he ends up on his fifth 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:32.120 team in five years. A former m v P like 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:35.200 this is this is quite a saga, but there's a 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:37.080 lot else going on in the world of sports. Let's 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.400 go ahead and bring in Greg Rosenthal to hear what's 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:51.400 going on in the n f L. Here's Greg for him. 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:54.160 The NFL is three d sixty five days a year, 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:57.160 twenty four seven. You can hear him on the Around 0:16:57.200 --> 0:17:01.720 the NFL podcast. NFL Network analyst Egg Rosenthal joins us 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.520 now and Greg. Pretty quiet day around your office. I 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:08.920 assume you picked the perfect day to have this schedule. 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:12.679 That was like, my mind is still recovering from Aaron 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:14.800 Rodgers signing the contract, which I thought was going to 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:16.800 be the big thing of the day. And then, in 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:20.159 perfect fashion, Russell Wilson in his trade to the Broncos 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:22.439 made Aaron Rodgers a b story. And I guess I'm 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:24.439 a small person that I kind of enjoy that a 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:27.840 little too. I would love to start with Russell because 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:31.200 that one blindsided me a little bit. I'm a Packer fan. 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:34.640 I've been following the Packer story very closely. But what 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:37.719 did you make of the Broncos and Seahawks making this 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:40.639 epic trade? And I mean, where did you expect it? 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:44.600 They're putting it out there through you know, different insiders 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.400 that the Rodgers deal had nothing to do with the timing. 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:50.359 I mean, I don't buy that. I do buy that 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:53.240 they started this process two weeks ago because of trade. 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:57.399 This big doesn't come together that quickly. I look at 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:00.879 it from kind of the global NFL level and just 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:05.080 think it's fascinating because Russell Wilson wanted out a year ago. 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:07.399 He was on the record, his agent was on the 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:09.760 record wanting out with three years left on his contract, 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:12.320 and he got it done a year later. And to me, 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:17.240 that changes like how NFL trades can be run. It's 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:20.320 a little more NBA like. And it also says to 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:24.840 me that Pete Carroll was ready for this divorce too. 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:27.520 Because people have asked the question, does Pete Carroll want 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:29.320 to be there during the rebuild? It's like, who do 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:33.120 you think is making this trade? Pete Carroll runs this 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:36.959 organization with more power than any coach in the entire NFL. 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:39.120 Their owner, Paul Allen died a couple of years ago. 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:42.359 Jody Allen has taken over, but he's doing what he 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:44.600 wants and I don't think he's trying to rebuild. And 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:47.040 maybe they'll step back at the quarterback position. But I 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:49.560 think he's gonna want to prove people wrong and try 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:52.000 to compete this year and thinks that he's going to 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:54.320 be there for a while more. And the fact that 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:57.840 they essentially chose Pete Carroll over Russell Wilson, I think 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:00.560 supports that that he's not going anywhere and time soon. 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:04.440 See Pete Carroll seventy years old. It's obvious he wouldn't 0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:06.560 want to be a part of a rebuild. But and 0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:08.600 then Jody Allen had just said they weren't interested in 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:13.320 a trade. That's why I'm still kind of looking for clues. Yeah, 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:16.200 everything that they said about Russell Wilson was just saying 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:20.439 things to say. I think now you know, just saying 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:23.320 what they can and if you listen carefully, they never 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:26.800 totally box themselves into a corner. Pete Carroll, he basically 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:30.439 was saying, look, we're not interested and traded him, but 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:33.720 he didn't shut the door if someone was gonna come calling. 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:37.399 And the price that they got for him to first 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:41.240 two seconds. A good young tight end and no a 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:44.080 fan who I like a lot, Shelby Harris, who I 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:47.800 think is a good veteran defensive Lineman that people don't 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:49.560 know a lot about. But there's a reason why the 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:51.439 Broncos paid him so much money last year. He's a 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:54.240 good player. Drew lock is just a guy to compete 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:56.240 at quarterback. I don't think he's gonna really matter with 0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:58.680 the woman. They got a lot for him. I don't 0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:01.000 think it's smart to be too was in your seven 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:05.040 year old head coach over your franchise quarterback? But this 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:07.920 is not Aaron Rodgers. To me, He's not a top 0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:11.399 five quarterback in the NFL, and so they at least 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:16.400 got a representative Paul for trading a guy that good. 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:20.280 Do you think his uh, his health had anything to 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:22.600 do with it? Is there anything that they know that 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:25.479 we're not privy to. Is there anything that puts him 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:28.040 in question as far as how much more he has 0:20:28.160 --> 0:20:30.800 left in the tank? No, but I do think his 0:20:30.920 --> 0:20:33.199 play over the last two years had something to do 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:36.720 with it. People put last year's struggles totally on that 0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:40.359 finger injury, and he was very cautious early in the 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:43.840 season and more importantly, in the second half of the season. 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:46.040 Was the worst stretch of play Russell Wilson's ever had 0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:48.280 in his career. It wasn't two or three games, it 0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:50.919 was eight or nine games. He was hurting them in 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:53.600 that stretch. And I think he's a guy who's always 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:57.359 relied on his athleticism, holding the ball forever and making 0:20:57.400 --> 0:20:59.480 a play. And they've tried a lot of different offensive 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:02.359 coordinator is with him and they never quite found the 0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:05.080 right one. And you know that's on Pete Carroll too. 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:07.320 But I don't think there was the belief from Pete 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:10.160 Carroll and John Schneider that Russell Wilson was in that 0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:15.879 tier of Aaron Rodgers and now Herbert and Mahomes. I 0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:17.679 don't think they viewed him that way, or else they 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:20.880 wouldn't have traded him. Yeah, just to follow up, I'm 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:23.359 a huge Giants fan, so there was so much hope 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:26.240 that he was coming to New York. He I think 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:28.439 at some point intimated that he wanted to come to 0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:32.040 New York. So what happened there? And what do the 0:21:32.119 --> 0:21:35.320 Giants do? Now? Are we stuck with this dukie? I 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:37.280 was just calling him a dukey because you know what 0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:40.000 I'm sick of. I'm sick of seeing Daniel Jones. I've 0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:43.639 had enough bad facial expressions from quarterback. He's not the 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:46.840 franchise guy. What do we do now? So two questions, 0:21:46.880 --> 0:21:49.240