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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.
Speaker 1: It is Monday, November eight, twenty twenty one, season seventeen,
Speaker 1: episode number fifty six. Welcome to the latest edition of
Speaker 1: The Break. We are alive from the s WBC Mortgage
Speaker 1: studios at the Star, and man, do we have a
Speaker 1: lot to talk about today. Cowboys take their first and
Speaker 1: really only beat down of the season yesterday at the
Speaker 1: hands of the lowly Denver Bronco, or at least lowly
Speaker 1: as of what we thought of them on Friday, very
Speaker 1: very different team showed up on Sunday. They beat the
Speaker 1: Cowboys thirty to sixteen. We're gonna tell you what what
Speaker 1: our thoughts were on that game before we get to
Speaker 1: that real quick, Nick, give me a fifty six fifty six, Um,
Speaker 1: how about Eugene the hitting machine Lockhart. Here we go.
Speaker 1: That's a good could have used the hitting machine. Yesterday
Speaker 1: definitely could use a little hitting machine. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: a that was a rough game, man. I just I
Speaker 1: don't think that any of us, I know, none of
Speaker 1: us expected what we saw yesterday. Even if in some
Speaker 1: of some of your somewhere in your wild imagination you
Speaker 1: could have imagined that Cowboys were gonna lose that game,
Speaker 1: nobody thought it would be a beat down like that.
Speaker 1: Let's start first, though, I want to get a big
Speaker 1: picture storyline from each of you guys of what was yesterday. Dave,
Speaker 1: I see that look on your face. Let's start with you.
Speaker 1: What was your big picture story you take from the
Speaker 1: big picture from yesterday or big picture because I gotta
Speaker 1: tell you a story from yesterday, Okay from Yester, Well,
Speaker 1: I think yesterday was just a classic example of what
Speaker 1: we mean when we say this is the NFL. Like
Speaker 1: that's why we throw that out there all the time.
Speaker 1: And people have been tweeting me for the last eighteen
Speaker 1: hours like, oh it was a trap game. They were
Speaker 1: looking ahead. No, it's the NFL, and the gap between
Speaker 1: the good and the mediocre and the bad is shockingly small.
Speaker 1: And if you don't come with it, you're gonna get
Speaker 1: your ass kicked. That's my big picture takeaway, and that's
Speaker 1: why having had a chance to really think about it
Speaker 1: and look around the rest of the NFL. Do you
Speaker 1: want to lose No? Do you want to get embarrassed
Speaker 1: in your own house? No? But like I feel a
Speaker 1: lot better than I bet a lot of people do
Speaker 1: right now, because I'm just like, it's a weird league
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. I don't think the Cowboys showed up
Speaker 1: thinking they needed to try yesterday and they got a
Speaker 1: harsh reminder and you pick up the pieces and move forward.
Speaker 1: Stuff happens during the course of a now seventeen game season,
Speaker 1: and I feel I'm sorry if I like a Homer.
Speaker 1: I feel pretty confident that it's more of a blip
Speaker 1: than some sort of crazy indicator that this team's actually bad.
Speaker 1: Amber I'm not worried. I wasn't even mad. I was
Speaker 1: like watching the game and just complete disbelief. You know,
Speaker 1: when you're like, what the heck is happening? But at
Speaker 1: the same time, I know that that's not them, Like
Speaker 1: what happened yesterday is not really them. Despite all the
Speaker 1: mistakes that they've made throughout the season, I truly believe
Speaker 1: that they're gonna come back next week and play, and
Speaker 1: actually they can't get out. I thought we were gonna
Speaker 1: fight like all day today. I'm shocked to hear this
Speaker 1: coming out of your mouth. Was so I told it
Speaker 1: about this yesterday last night, and I was gonna look
Speaker 1: it up, and I just completely forgot. But and I
Speaker 1: know this is a different team, different coaches and everything,
Speaker 1: But you guys remember several years ago when they played
Speaker 1: in Denver that they played pretty much saying makes that way.
Speaker 1: It was embarrassing and we didn't really know what the
Speaker 1: heck happened because every single player had a bad game
Speaker 1: that day. Do you guys remember how they came back
Speaker 1: and played the next few weeks? Not off the top
Speaker 1: of my head, to be honest with you, they went
Speaker 1: nine and seven that year. I know that I wanted
Speaker 1: to look it up, but anyways, my point is, I
Speaker 1: think it was just that exact game that that you
Speaker 1: just don't really know what happened in all levels coaching
Speaker 1: the players on defense, on offense. And I'm sure we'll
Speaker 1: get into the whole thing, but at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, I'm really not that concerns. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that they can clean it up and come back and
Speaker 1: play better for another wind? Nick what Nick body language?
Speaker 1: I'm curious. I think they I mean, you know, you
Speaker 1: guys said if they got outplayed out, hit out, block out,
Speaker 1: tackled out, coached out, cheered and verbroncos dot com, maybe
Speaker 1: they had a better day than as. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that every everything was better. Their stories
Speaker 1: were probably better. It's more fun. It's more fun to
Speaker 1: write about a dominant win than an ass kicking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they they I think they just underestimated them the
Speaker 1: whole game. And I think it starts with McCarthy. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't blast this guy like
Speaker 1: like other people do. I give them the praise. I
Speaker 1: think coaches get praise when they win. And I think that,
Speaker 1: you know, I put it on them to start. I
Speaker 1: think I think going out the way they did and
Speaker 1: saying I thought, and I said this on the radio
Speaker 1: this morning, I thought they played the game like you
Speaker 1: would play Madden. You know, I'm gonna just I'm gonna
Speaker 1: score here. I'm not kicking a field goal. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna score your kid. Oh yeah, yeah, I didn't catch Okay,
Speaker 1: we didn't get it I'll get it the next time.
Speaker 1: We'll stop them, we'll get it the next time. And
Speaker 1: it just and they just kind of underestimated them. And
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't have a problem with the first
Speaker 1: fourth down. I had a problem with the second one.
Speaker 1: And you know, even though the even though they could
Speaker 1: have got it, but they didn't. You know, I'm a
Speaker 1: little bit more concerned than you guys are, just because
Speaker 1: I like, well, we'll see, we'll see what they are.
Speaker 1: But if you put that on tape, now I know
Speaker 1: what you've got. Now, I know you can play like
Speaker 1: crap and you can get blown out at home to
Speaker 1: an average team with no star power. So it's a
Speaker 1: little bit concerning. Your eyes are open, like we'll see,
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens this week. Yeah, you mentioned that
Speaker 1: those calls there at the beginning of the game, and
Speaker 1: I think that was actually a part of that thinking.
Speaker 1: Was a part of the reason why I think they
Speaker 1: got what they got is because to me, that signify
Speaker 1: the fact that in both those situations, you know, you
Speaker 1: got fourth and one at Denver thirty eight, you got
Speaker 1: fourth and two at Denver twenty Neither time did you
Speaker 1: try for field goal. You just say we're going to
Speaker 1: go for it. And I kind of agree a little
Speaker 1: bit more with the fourth and one and thirty eight,
Speaker 1: that's a pretty long field goal. Give it a shot.
Speaker 1: Fourth and two with the twenty that's where and I
Speaker 1: didn't kill him. I'll be honest with you. I didn't
Speaker 1: kill him because I had the same mentality, which was,
Speaker 1: I'm not scared of this team. Worst case scenario. I
Speaker 1: think the defense is going to stop them from scoring
Speaker 1: more points in their offense is going to be able
Speaker 1: to score. So take a shot, be aggressive. And I
Speaker 1: think that also is what bit him in the butt.
Speaker 1: I think they went into that game thinking we're just
Speaker 1: a better team, so we're gonna try some things, and
Speaker 1: I think they started pressing as the game went on.
Speaker 1: I think that's why guys were dropping balls. I think
Speaker 1: that's why guys were, you know, dak is overthrowing guys
Speaker 1: that are open. I think it's because they felt like
Speaker 1: they were a better team and at some point their
Speaker 1: betterness was just going to take over, right And when
Speaker 1: it takes over, then we'll run away with this game.
Speaker 1: And I think it played out just the opposite because,
Speaker 1: as they said, Dave, this is the NFL and anybody
Speaker 1: can beat you any given week. I do agree with that,
Speaker 1: and I definitely I thought they pressed And yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that's such a great analogy. It reminded me of
Speaker 1: me trying to win the Heisman on NC DOUBLEA football.
Speaker 1: It's like, I gotta throw for four to fifty and
Speaker 1: five touchdowns if I'm going to stay in the race.
Speaker 1: And that's I thought Dak played that way. I thought
Speaker 1: everybody played that way. It was just like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta get these stats up. We gotta remind
Speaker 1: people who we are, and you kind of lose sight
Speaker 1: of the big picture, which is winning the game. Having
Speaker 1: said that, I don't have an issue with the aggressive
Speaker 1: play calling. To be honest with you, well you never do.
Speaker 1: Let's be honest. That's the way, right, But fifty five
Speaker 1: yard field goal, I mean, we've we've been I think
Speaker 1: we all agree with that. And then the second one,
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't believe. And who is a bigger
Speaker 1: Dak homer than yours? Truly, I can't believe we're killing
Speaker 1: the decision Instead of the forty million dollar quarterback who
Speaker 1: biffed it to the Cedric Wilson's ankles complete the pass
Speaker 1: it wasn't tipped. Dak said it himself. Complete the easy
Speaker 1: past to Cedric Wilson and keep the chains moving the offense.
Speaker 1: Even still with how am surprised and impressed we are
Speaker 1: with the way the defense is played. The offense is
Speaker 1: your ticket. That's why you're gonna win games. That's why
Speaker 1: you're gonna get where you want to go. Complete a
Speaker 1: very easy past to Cedric Wilson. Dak Prescott, I don't
Speaker 1: have a problem with it at all, but it's just
Speaker 1: it's a microcosm of everything they just they did. They
Speaker 1: didn't do anything right. You throw it at Cedric Wilson's ankles.
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, I bet he saw like he saw that
Speaker 1: catch over the middle of the third and one that
Speaker 1: he dropped in his mind as the ball's coming at him,
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm gonna house this, We're gonna be it's
Speaker 1: gonna beet nineteen to seven. Still got a chance. Yeah,
Speaker 1: then it's on the ground. And that's just at every
Speaker 1: aspect of the team. They just couldn't do anything right
Speaker 1: all day. And also bet that this morning when he
Speaker 1: woke up, he was still seeing that ball not going
Speaker 1: into his hands and hitting the ground. Like, how did
Speaker 1: that drop that pass? Because that's not a pass that
Speaker 1: he took. Somebody put out a graphic on Sunday night
Speaker 1: that was like, Amari Cooper's been targeted X amount of
Speaker 1: times this season. Sunday night after the Vikings game, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: you know, with the juggling catch and the game winner,
Speaker 1: and they were like, he hasn't dropped a target this year,
Speaker 1: and what are the odds that he finally has a
Speaker 1: drop and it is as wide open and easy as
Speaker 1: it's going to be for as good of a player
Speaker 1: as he is. You guys mentioned earlier, nick I think
Speaker 1: you mentioned that you give a little you give someone
Speaker 1: the blame to Mike McCarthy here, and he even said
Speaker 1: after the game, he said, we got out coaching, we
Speaker 1: got out played. There was something though, he said after
Speaker 1: that that caught my attention, and nick I mentioned it
Speaker 1: team last night. He said, maybe I over coached the
Speaker 1: penalties this week, and that jumped out at me because
Speaker 1: when you think about how the Cowboys played, they were
Speaker 1: they did seem to be a little bit they lost
Speaker 1: a little bit at edge that we've seen them play with.
Speaker 1: And when he said maybe I over coached penalties, this week.
Speaker 1: It made me think, was this a situation where he
Speaker 1: all week was harping on them, don't don't go to
Speaker 1: that edge, don't go there, like you gotta make sure
Speaker 1: you're not getting these dumb penalties. And because of that,
Speaker 1: maybe they were a little more tentative, maybe they lost
Speaker 1: a little bit that age. What were your thoughts on
Speaker 1: that comment. That's interesting that he would say that, And
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if it translates to that
Speaker 1: at all, but it felt like something they weren't tackling
Speaker 1: those guys and those running backs. You know, they were
Speaker 1: good backs, I guess, but but I mean they're not
Speaker 1: like you know, Jim Brown Walter Peyton, which they made
Speaker 1: it out to be in that game. I mean, they
Speaker 1: just they didn't tackle. They didn't they didn't bring them
Speaker 1: to the ground. I thought they got beat on second down.
Speaker 1: I really did. I thought, because you get ten tackles
Speaker 1: for a loss, that is that is insane amount of
Speaker 1: tackles for loss. But how many times were the second
Speaker 1: and fourteen and then they'd get a run for twelve
Speaker 1: yards and announced third and two and then they would
Speaker 1: convert it. So I don't I don't know if that
Speaker 1: was it or not, But I wouldn't worry about it
Speaker 1: for this game because it ain't happen in this game.
Speaker 1: I promise you their defensive coordinator knows who they're playing
Speaker 1: this game, and their guys are going to play to
Speaker 1: their level of their defensive coordinator, and the aggressiveness will
Speaker 1: definitely be there for this game. This is an entirely
Speaker 1: subjective way to look at it, and I don't like
Speaker 1: talking about fantasy football, but I have Melvin Gordon and
Speaker 1: Javonte Williams on my team. I've they've been there and
Speaker 1: injuries have forced me to play these guys, and I
Speaker 1: like all week, I was like, those guys haven't done
Speaker 1: crap all year, and nobody knows that better than me.
Speaker 1: I was shocking to see the way that they broke contact.
Speaker 1: I mean, their their yak must have been it. I
Speaker 1: mean they ran for one ninety one and I like
Speaker 1: two thirds of it must have been yak. It felt
Speaker 1: like they were slipping a tackle every time they touched
Speaker 1: the ball, do you think And I noticed this during
Speaker 1: the game a lot of times, where they ended up
Speaker 1: being broken tackles and guys kept getting more yards. It
Speaker 1: looked like the defenders were reaching for the ball, grabbing
Speaker 1: at the ball. Do you think that maybe they've kind
Speaker 1: of overcoached trying to get the turnover and not emphasize
Speaker 1: enough or one thing is get the guy down, mate,
Speaker 1: that's pressing, like I said, the whole team. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: if we can strip this guy here, then then the
Speaker 1: offense has a short field and we can get back
Speaker 1: on track. We can make it thirteen to seven. And
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're not focusing on getting the
Speaker 1: guy down and he's got twelve yards when he should
Speaker 1: have had three. I just don't think how do you
Speaker 1: blame that on over coaching? I mean, how do you
Speaker 1: take such a step backwards when they've been playing the
Speaker 1: way that they have, you know, like, it doesn't make
Speaker 1: sense to me. The one thing, and I get it,
Speaker 1: like if you emphasize something so much like hey, be careful,
Speaker 1: look for this, do that, do this, Yes, but that's
Speaker 1: just such a drastic change. So I would have to
Speaker 1: think that he had to come down with them maybe
Speaker 1: feeling a little over confident and thinking like you guys
Speaker 1: were talking about, which again it's another thing. I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: where they have they been feeling kind of cocky. Have
Speaker 1: they been feeling kind of was that? Has that even
Speaker 1: been live? I'm glad you brought that. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: glad you brought that up, because it's really all I've
Speaker 1: been thinking about. And we don't have as good of
Speaker 1: a sense of the vibe of the team as we
Speaker 1: used to. We don't see them nearly as often as
Speaker 1: we would pre code. We're not in their locker room
Speaker 1: where you kind of hear those side conversations and see, yeah,
Speaker 1: and we're and you know, they bring four guys a
Speaker 1: day out here to talk to us in a very
Speaker 1: weird setting. It's just not the same. But and the
Speaker 1: big thing too, is you're never gonna get a guy
Speaker 1: to directly say like, yeah, we didn't take this team seriously.
Speaker 1: That's that's like a suicidal type of quote, right, That's
Speaker 1: just something that you're not going to get a guy
Speaker 1: to say. But if you pass through the quotes, there
Speaker 1: were a couple Layton vander esh six different times he
Speaker 1: was like, I think we needed this. I you know,
Speaker 1: this is the type of thing that that can help
Speaker 1: us in the long run. And then Dak was asked
Speaker 1: directly if if you felt maybe you felt a little
Speaker 1: too high. Maybe you're a little too high on yourself.
Speaker 1: And it's a long quote. I'm not going to read
Speaker 1: the whole thing, but he said, with everything that went
Speaker 1: wrong in this game, I would say maybe. And then
Speaker 1: he goes on and he says, when you win a
Speaker 1: game like we did last week on the road, in
Speaker 1: a tough environment, everything going against you, I think sometimes
Speaker 1: you think you can just roll out there and get
Speaker 1: it done. And again he goes on to say a
Speaker 1: lot more and he's like, there was not a point
Speaker 1: up until the last five six minutes of that game
Speaker 1: where we still didn't believe we could get it done.
Speaker 1: And why not Minnesota, New England fifteen penalties, everything going
Speaker 1: against you, you you still find a way to get it done.
Speaker 1: And he said, when it finally sinks in that it's
Speaker 1: not going to happen, you're reminded that this is the NFL,
Speaker 1: this is a really tough business, and again, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna get it direct Like, yes, we didn't try as
Speaker 1: hard as we could have, but I just think there
Speaker 1: was an edge lacking. I think they probably thought, like, man,
Speaker 1: who's gonna mess with us? If we can go do
Speaker 1: that in Minnesota with Cooper Rush, this is the mortalizing game.
Speaker 1: And you know, and we've felt it. I mean we've
Speaker 1: seen it on the road. We've seen the Cowboys. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guarantee the Chargers felt that way. You know, when
Speaker 1: they walk into their home stadium and they feel that way,
Speaker 1: and the Vikings maybe last week too. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: that's the nature of the league. That's what happens. And
Speaker 1: then you give them a lot of reasons to get
Speaker 1: loud and cheer and stuff like that, so then you
Speaker 1: know you had that going against you. And I mean,
Speaker 1: as a special teams player, all you want to do
Speaker 1: is block a punt. I mean that's all you want
Speaker 1: to do. That that that changes the game. And you
Speaker 1: can't even do that, right, I mean, you can't even
Speaker 1: do You can't even block a punt. Right. That's when
Speaker 1: you know it's not your day. When you block a punt,
Speaker 1: you don't get the football. I mean, everything that and
Speaker 1: I know you're probably gonna talk about it, but everything
Speaker 1: that you when you come out of halftime, you were
Speaker 1: this is a third quarter team. We got to get
Speaker 1: a stop to get off the field. We gotta get
Speaker 1: and then they block a punt and you still don't
Speaker 1: get the football and the next thing you know, it's
Speaker 1: nineteen that it doesn't make sense age You can't you
Speaker 1: were you were watching like the Fox. What channel wasn't
Speaker 1: on Fox? You were watching the TV broadcast? Right? Were
Speaker 1: the announcer's hip to what was going on immediately? No? Okay,
Speaker 1: because that's well to be fair, I had the English
Speaker 1: the Spanish broadcast, but people did not really know what
Speaker 1: was going on. I like, we always talk about you
Speaker 1: miss something by not having all of that information coming
Speaker 1: at you. You've kind of got to figure things out
Speaker 1: for yourself. In the press box, me and Nick were
Speaker 1: on the same page as like three plays kicked their ass,
Speaker 1: blocked the punt. This is it's gonna be It's gonna
Speaker 1: be tight. But this is how it happens. And they
Speaker 1: go to commercial. The guy with the oven mittens down
Speaker 1: on the field with the neon orange of them, and
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, they're at commercial. The offense will be out,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, the Denver offense is
Speaker 1: trotting out and you're it's dawning on you like, wait,
Speaker 1: what what's going on? And then the ref makes his
Speaker 1: announcement like it hit me like a ton of bricks
Speaker 1: when I realized that the offense wasn't going to have
Speaker 1: the ball back because we had gotten no indication otherwise
Speaker 1: that that was going to happen. Yeah, that was It
Speaker 1: was huge, And you know it. You can argue all
Speaker 1: day long with it. And I mean, and I've already
Speaker 1: done that this morning, and it's it's a rule change
Speaker 1: that needs to be I mean, it's a change in
Speaker 1: the rules. I think that needs to happen. Um, it's
Speaker 1: rare when this situation. My my take to the whole
Speaker 1: thing is if the result of the play does not
Speaker 1: result into a first down, then then it should be
Speaker 1: the Cowboys ball. That's the way I look at it.
Speaker 1: And maybe there's some nuances I don't I don't know of,
Speaker 1: But if if it's fourth and twelve and all this
Speaker 1: weird crap happens and they get seven yards with the ball,
Speaker 1: then that's where the ball should be. You did not
Speaker 1: get a first down. And I don't understand it. I don't.
Speaker 1: I just I don't get it. It kind of makes
Speaker 1: my brain hurt thinking about it, to be on because
Speaker 1: I can imagine why it exists. Like I can think
Speaker 1: of a scenario where a guy gets a finger on
Speaker 1: it and it goes past the line of scrimmage and
Speaker 1: some wonky stuff happens. I'm sure you know the game
Speaker 1: can surprise you, right, like the more you watch, the
Speaker 1: more new stuff you see. But yeah, I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that seems focused like you know what I don't understand,
Speaker 1: because in the same way, what I don't understand is
Speaker 1: why we haven't seen this play out more because we
Speaker 1: see times when a guy gets a fingertip on a
Speaker 1: punt and I'm surprised that that hasn't happened in a
Speaker 1: situation where the guy kind of, you know, fair catches it,
Speaker 1: but he doesn't catch it. It It just kind of bounces
Speaker 1: and he goes down the and the the other team
Speaker 1: goes down and downs the ball that would be their ball.
Speaker 1: And I don't know that the guy back there getting
Speaker 1: the that's gonna catch the punt always knows that a
Speaker 1: fingertip actually one of his guys actually got a fingertip
Speaker 1: on it. I'm just surprised that this has never happened
Speaker 1: before and that I've seen it in football and this
Speaker 1: kind of scenario where a guy someone recovers just because
Speaker 1: the ball was partially tipped or a distance. It was blocked,
Speaker 1: but it was even partially tipped. It's kind of surprising
Speaker 1: that this hasn't come up to where I've seen that
Speaker 1: type of scenario usually doesn't get hit right there at
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage like that, you know. And I
Speaker 1: talked to Nashan right after the game, and you know,
Speaker 1: he was you know, he said that, you know, he
Speaker 1: knew that he's standing at the line of scrimmage and
Speaker 1: he's he's like, I know, the rule came at him fast. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well and he's trying to make a play. I don't
Speaker 1: have any fault for him, and um, I can tell
Speaker 1: you more about that here after at the break. It's interesting.
Speaker 1: But yes, no, it's fine. I mean, it's got the tea. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's fine. He you know, he did
Speaker 1: a good job. I applaud him, yeah, for for talking
Speaker 1: and and and saying what happened and given his take
Speaker 1: on it and given some quotes and all that. I
Speaker 1: applaud him for for standing there and doing it. It
Speaker 1: is I mean, it's bizarre. Yeah, me neither. I can't
Speaker 1: wait to get to the break. But y'all know, oh okay,
Speaker 1: y'all know I'm watching the video over again, and uh,
Speaker 1: I mean, if he can corral that ball, he has
Speaker 1: at least an outside chance to score. Can you can
Speaker 1: advance a block punt, can't you? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's got the Uh, it's just okay, this is what
Speaker 1: avalanche of. This is what I hate about it. Like,
Speaker 1: you know how big I am on stats. I'm a
Speaker 1: stat geek and all that. First time in the history
Speaker 1: of the NFL, there's a lot, a lot of the
Speaker 1: things have happened in NFL games. Malik Turner, I want
Speaker 1: to call him MALIEK. Cooker. Malik Turner would have been
Speaker 1: the first player in the history of the NFL to
Speaker 1: catch two touchdowns and block a punt in the game.
Speaker 1: But the NFL rules, the stats are not calling it
Speaker 1: a block punt. They just call it a two yard
Speaker 1: punt and a muff by Nishan. Right. I just watched
Speaker 1: it again. It hits him in the shoulder pad. That's
Speaker 1: how different three or four inches can be. If he
Speaker 1: gets his hands over here and blocks, it goes backwards,
Speaker 1: they recover it. Maybe safety whatever, a safety probably would
Speaker 1: have been better than a touchdow. Yeah. Actually, honestly, just
Speaker 1: because the ball and that brives me. Somebody like Dwayne
Speaker 1: Harris wouldn't have done that at Saint. That goes back
Speaker 1: to how surprising all of this was, because I remember
Speaker 1: you talking about that. You were like, oh, like a
Speaker 1: safety could have done this. And then you score and
Speaker 1: then or then you get the ball back and you
Speaker 1: have a chance to get nine a little bit, and
Speaker 1: then the refs are like Denver's keeping the ball, like
Speaker 1: when that never happened, Like, God, I see nothing before,
Speaker 1: just the worst afternoon ever. Yeah, And then there was
Speaker 1: times in the press box that long catch that Teyvron
Speaker 1: Diggs knocked it out, Treyvon Diggs, we need to talk
Speaker 1: about him. We're gonna get to him. He's streaking in
Speaker 1: the wrong directly. But but that play that then they've
Speaker 1: written and reviewed it, they challenged it, and we're all
Speaker 1: in said the same thing, like, it doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: it would be a catch in a FuMB oh every day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: probably every fiber of me thought that they were going
Speaker 1: to give that the if you're the yeah, the contested
Speaker 1: catch that the day was going to. It was just
Speaker 1: kind of like, yeah, that's that just seems like it fits.
Speaker 1: We just felt like you were caught in an avalance.
Speaker 1: That's the food good in the press. Body good. Weather
Speaker 1: was nice, yeah, very nice. Everything everybody got home, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: everything other than other than the game itself was really good.
Speaker 1: Are we gonna take our first Broncos? Like going throughout
Speaker 1: the stadium that was I think they're still out there
Speaker 1: channing We're gonna take our first break when we come back.
Speaker 1: I do want to dive in a little bit more
Speaker 1: to this offense and talk about specifically what was happening
Speaker 1: at left tackle there. That was an interesting day from
Speaker 1: mister Terrence Steele. We'll talk about that we come right back.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back, second segment of the Break Life s WBC
Speaker 1: Mortgage Studios. At the start, thank you for having had
Speaker 1: read ready, Nick, You're on it today? Good? Uh, let's
Speaker 1: let's let's jump back in and I want to talk slaphically.
Speaker 1: I mean you're not violent. Uh okay, hold onto last
Speaker 1: night in the press box after you had left, because
Speaker 1: it was you know, it was really wow shot you
Speaker 1: leave like about an hour and a half after. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not writing stories that. I actually surprised you stay
Speaker 1: that long, honestly, honestly long because of the raff. Yeah, okay. Anyways,
Speaker 1: we're talking about something and and the fraternity comes out,
Speaker 1: remember somebody it's that or something that about I'm gonna
Speaker 1: throw up the hooks and I said, no, don't, don't
Speaker 1: do that. Me and Dave can can attest to that,
Speaker 1: like you could get the appreciated. That's a little different.
Speaker 1: That didn't have anything to do with regular like you.
Speaker 1: Is that what it's called seeing him Rick Flair chop
Speaker 1: him in the in the chest. It's true that that
Speaker 1: he caught me by surprise. I wasn't expecting it. It It
Speaker 1: was just kind of out of the blue. It was
Speaker 1: actually my fault because he did the hooks the night before.
Speaker 1: I took the picture of it and then I showed
Speaker 1: you and then you hit him and you're like, what
Speaker 1: was that for it? And he was like laugh fair.
Speaker 1: They was like, yeah, it's true. Is that to me? Once?
Speaker 1: On my arm and it hurts. I did, what can
Speaker 1: we can we get back that? Right? What are we
Speaker 1: doing here? Like the cow devastated cowboys trying to make
Speaker 1: sense of this loss? They were, well, the fine orange Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't need to do this, but I
Speaker 1: mean that's that's just the nature of this. By the way,
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen again in two weeks when I mean
Speaker 1: through the two weeks was three weeks. Whenever they whenever
Speaker 1: the Raiders come here, I guarantee you there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of black and silver in the building again.
Speaker 1: Because you're talking about as you as you guys always
Speaker 1: talk about when you're playing the AFC, you're playing in Division.
Speaker 1: You haven't played him at your house in eight years,
Speaker 1: which means they're fans who were in town are going
Speaker 1: to say, that's a destination game. That's an opportunity for
Speaker 1: me to go to a game. Combination, a combination of
Speaker 1: things too. It's not you gotta have. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't think the New York Jets are bringing a ton
Speaker 1: of fans. It's a fan base, very loyal fan base,
Speaker 1: and people say that like that they travel, well, I
Speaker 1: don't think so. I think there's a ton of different
Speaker 1: Ronco fans in the area. Although I will say this.
Speaker 1: I will say this. I had to travel Sunday coming
Speaker 1: back into Town Houston from Houston. When I was getting back,
Speaker 1: I was taking a shuttle to my car and the
Speaker 1: guy was driving a shuttle. He saw that I was
Speaker 1: that I had on like I pult already put on
Speaker 1: my credential and he was like, you're going to game dawn.
Speaker 1: I was like yeah. He's like, man, I've seen a
Speaker 1: ton of people coming from Denver. And that was early
Speaker 1: in the morning. I took a seven o'clock flight ready.
Speaker 1: He was like, I've seen a lot of people flying
Speaker 1: in this weekend from Denver that we're coming in for
Speaker 1: the game. And I was like, wow, that's pretty interesting.
Speaker 1: I was. I thought it was like you, like a
Speaker 1: lot of people just live here, but maybe they do
Speaker 1: travel well. I love the well. Also, you got to
Speaker 1: think about geography too. I don't know why we need
Speaker 1: to get into the weeds on this. No, I think
Speaker 1: this type of stuff fascinates me though. Look at a map,
Speaker 1: Denver is the only NFL city anywhere near like six
Speaker 1: different states. So like, if you live in Colorado, New Mexico, Wyoming, Nevada,
Speaker 1: the western part of like Kansas, Netta, like the Idaho Montana.
Speaker 1: Like there's just this huge geographic reason where it probably
Speaker 1: makes sense to be a Broncos fan. They've been good.
Speaker 1: By the way, they do have a large following. When
Speaker 1: you look just around the league, who has what following
Speaker 1: on digital, They've got a largest Dallas is a super
Speaker 1: easy city to get to. It is a huge transplant city,
Speaker 1: so I'm sure there are a lot of people living here.
Speaker 1: But even if you don't, it costs like two hundred
Speaker 1: dollars to fly here on Southwest, and it's at and
Speaker 1: T Stadium. People want to see it. It's a popular
Speaker 1: place to go. Oh and by the way, they kick
Speaker 1: the crap out of the Cowboys. Like if the Cowboys
Speaker 1: had done what we thought they were going to do,
Speaker 1: all that orange would have been gone by the end
Speaker 1: of the third and nobody would care. I mean it
Speaker 1: turnabouts fair play, right, Like it's cool when the Cowboys
Speaker 1: take over US Bank. Well, sometimes that's gonna happen when
Speaker 1: you play a big fan base. He's like, you've got
Speaker 1: these newer stadiums, just like for Cowboys fans that maybe
Speaker 1: in the Minnesota area are close to it. It's an
Speaker 1: opportunity to go see a new stadium, so you also
Speaker 1: draw people out to go see their team in that stay.
Speaker 1: There's a financial component too. It's really expensive to go
Speaker 1: to NFL games. If you hold tickets to the Cowboys
Speaker 1: and you think, like, man, I can make a lot
Speaker 1: of my money back selling two or three of these.
Speaker 1: Let me sell some Broncos tickets and get my costs back.
Speaker 1: Feeling it's not gonna be that bad for the Raiders.
Speaker 1: You don't, no, maybe not seeing it. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: like this is where this will be their third Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: Day game at this stadium. That's rare. I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Well, something weird happened. I don't
Speaker 1: know why. With the Chiefs and the Raiders back right,
Speaker 1: nine and thirteen. Yeah, they played, they played, they didn't
Speaker 1: they did back to back. Yeah, they didn't flip. They
Speaker 1: didn't flip. We played the Chiefs and O nine and
Speaker 1: in thirteen on the road and played the Raiders at
Speaker 1: nine and thirteen on both of them were Thanksgiving Day games.
Speaker 1: So did you say this? Okay, go ahead. I think
Speaker 1: it's stupid and sorry to put it that way, but
Speaker 1: very I mean, and I get a fan noise and
Speaker 1: all that, but at the end of the day, like
Speaker 1: it's it bothers me when people use that all there
Speaker 1: was a ton offense of the opposing team or whatever
Speaker 1: taking over and all that. At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it's not the fans fault, like, and I get it.
Speaker 1: It does mess with how you hear things and all that,
Speaker 1: but when you're focused on there or whatever, you're trained
Speaker 1: to do this kind of stuff. You know. I haven't
Speaker 1: been able to go to a practice, but we've seen
Speaker 1: it years after year how they practice and they make
Speaker 1: it as loud as possible. You can hear the noise
Speaker 1: through the windows. You don't even have to look outside,
Speaker 1: you can just hear it. Yeah. Yeah, So I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's just like just play better. You should have no absolutely,
Speaker 1: And I don't think. I don't think any of this
Speaker 1: is an excuse. It's more just kind of an anecdotal
Speaker 1: funny thing. Well, I think I think it's more than that,
Speaker 1: but that's fine. I do. I do think it plays
Speaker 1: so psychologically with them as well. It's like being booed
Speaker 1: at home, you know, because because then it represents of
Speaker 1: why this is happening. We're here at home in this
Speaker 1: place and and we're we're getting, we're getting. You know,
Speaker 1: this crowd is over shattering our crowds kind of like
Speaker 1: you get home from a bad day and your family's
Speaker 1: heckling you because you had a bad day, Like you're
Speaker 1: you're playing it just it represents that you're you're really focused.
Speaker 1: They weren't listening to that stuff. I've played soccer, I've
Speaker 1: been on fields, I've done performances, and it's weird what
Speaker 1: your brain does and stuff. But if you're really focused,
Speaker 1: you don't hear anyone there is Tony Pollard, Amari Cooper,
Speaker 1: uh Ceedee Lamb, Dalton Schultz. I mean, they all, they
Speaker 1: all showed that they weren't focused at times. And then
Speaker 1: and then dak had I mean they weren't focused. And
Speaker 1: the difference of also, right, football is a little different
Speaker 1: because you have these starts and stops. Right, if you're
Speaker 1: on the offense, while you're on the field, you're probably right,
Speaker 1: you're not noticing the crowd because you're into the game.
Speaker 1: When you go sit out on the sideline and you're
Speaker 1: sitting there, you're noticing everything, and it's probably even more
Speaker 1: appearing to you, like is that are they saying, let's
Speaker 1: go Broncos? Like what are we doing us? Good? Play
Speaker 1: a better game and you won't like, No, one don't
Speaker 1: care they were about to talk about I was about
Speaker 1: to say, we can talk about something good, but I
Speaker 1: don't think we're gonna do it if we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about the left tackle, because well, I was a bad day.
Speaker 1: Real what could we talk about that pertains to the Cowboys?
Speaker 1: That would be good? Right now? They they had I mean,
Speaker 1: they drafted the right guy, they drafted, they did this guy. Well, well,
Speaker 1: here's the part I think we gotta. I don't want
Speaker 1: to overstate how he played because I do think some
Speaker 1: of the stuff that I saw in the run game, particularly,
Speaker 1: he wasn't great against the run yesterday. And by the way,
Speaker 1: there were some moments where there were lots of people
Speaker 1: having issues stopping the run and he was a part
Speaker 1: of that. So I don't want to overstated it like
Speaker 1: he had a phenomenal day. He did obviously show up
Speaker 1: when he came to making tackles for lost. He had
Speaker 1: the sacks to an hour of sacks, so yes, give
Speaker 1: him the credit for that, But I don't think he
Speaker 1: had just a stellar day. This was not to be
Speaker 1: fair to Nicholas. All I said was did anything good happen? Good? Okay? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly all right. But at the same time, I mean,
Speaker 1: how can you be phenomenal or have a stellar day
Speaker 1: when everybody else around you is playing like crap? You know,
Speaker 1: he can call the way, But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I think that it does affect you, like and we've
Speaker 1: talked about it, when everybody else's energy is up high
Speaker 1: and playing well, it just it's uh contagious. So I
Speaker 1: think that he did the best. Well I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: see the best best, but you know, out of everything
Speaker 1: that happened, he was the best one out there. And
Speaker 1: that's and that is going to happen. You know, when
Speaker 1: when your defensive tackles are a little bit suspect at times.
Speaker 1: Any linebacker, I mean, ray lewis probably a garden center
Speaker 1: got to that next level and got to him. It
Speaker 1: pretty probably didn't win all of them and that and
Speaker 1: a lot of that was on him. You got to
Speaker 1: be able to fight fight that off. But I just
Speaker 1: I love the way that I love the way he's playing,
Speaker 1: and I think I think they've got something there now.
Speaker 1: I think I think they've figured it out. He's not
Speaker 1: a pass rusher. He's a linebacker that can rush the
Speaker 1: passer um. I don't think he's an outside rusher or whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't think they would. He is like this. He is.
Speaker 1: This is exactly what I want him to be. A
Speaker 1: linebacker who can cover sideline to sideline, isn't a total
Speaker 1: liability in the passing game, and can get you one
Speaker 1: to three sacks in a game in game eight, eight
Speaker 1: or nine tackles for loss in a season is pretty
Speaker 1: good for a linebacker. He's had seven and two games
Speaker 1: since they took the green dot off of him and
Speaker 1: let him go play and not call the place. He's
Speaker 1: had four last week at three this game tackles for
Speaker 1: as he's living back there, and that's not even counting
Speaker 1: the sacks and PF which I know, I know it's PF.
Speaker 1: But they credit him with twenty four pressures on the season,
Speaker 1: which is most among rookies, tied with a guy who
Speaker 1: plays defensive end. I think he's gonna win Rookie of
Speaker 1: the Year. I do too. I don't think it's even
Speaker 1: in question. I mean, I think and don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1: I think he's having a phenomenal season, especially when you
Speaker 1: put in the context that he's a rookie. I think
Speaker 1: the amount of impact that he's having on this team
Speaker 1: is extremely special for it off ball linebacker. Now, like
Speaker 1: you don't see that like this is and I don't
Speaker 1: want to I don't want to say he's ray Lewis,
Speaker 1: but that's the kind of thing you saw from a
Speaker 1: guy like that. We had such an impact that most
Speaker 1: middle linebackers just really don't have in a lot of
Speaker 1: different facets of how they play defense. He's having that
Speaker 1: kind of impact. I get that, but I think yesterday
Speaker 1: and then goes back to what Day was saying, I
Speaker 1: don't know that I can point out a single person
Speaker 1: that I thought had a really stellar day. And in
Speaker 1: a game like that, it's hard to have a stellar
Speaker 1: day across the board because the team is performing so poorly,
Speaker 1: and NFL football is a team sport. Yeah, right, a
Speaker 1: league turner, I mean blocked a punt and he had
Speaker 1: two touchdowns there, And yeah, he didn't like we were
Speaker 1: talking to him. I tried to say the word garbage time,
Speaker 1: and he kind of cut me off in the middle
Speaker 1: of the where it said like it wasn't garbage time
Speaker 1: for us, and I was like, I'm sorry, Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1: You know, it never is when you're the player on
Speaker 1: your Yeah, it's not. Ye's that's what he's been waiting for.
Speaker 1: And yeah he did a nice job. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: they made it respectable, I guess. But everyone knows that
Speaker 1: was a thirty to nine. Yeah, it won't when you
Speaker 1: go back and look at this season in years to come,
Speaker 1: if you happen to look at the scores, you won't
Speaker 1: look at that game and say it was as bad
Speaker 1: as it actually was. But we all know that was
Speaker 1: a That was a blowout. They got destroyed. I bristle
Speaker 1: and have for I've fought with people for years about
Speaker 1: whether or not Dak puts up stats in garbage time.
Speaker 1: Leading a team back Atlanta Cleveland last year, starting the
Speaker 1: comeback when the third quarter starts, and battling all through
Speaker 1: the second half, that's not the same. This was garbage time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this was the last two possessions of the game. The
Speaker 1: Broncos are trying to get the hell out of there.
Speaker 1: He had one hundred and twenty of his two hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty yards on the last Fantasy wise like he
Speaker 1: ended up with like twenty four. He saved my point,
Speaker 1: he saved my day. He saved like Yeah. No, he
Speaker 1: wound up having a great and he had single digits,
Speaker 1: which is stupid. By the way, that's exactly right. I
Speaker 1: think they ought to have at They ought to have
Speaker 1: a number for quarterbacks for you to get some points,
Speaker 1: so you lose some points if you win or lose,
Speaker 1: like I think that matters too. But anyway, um, let's
Speaker 1: talk about the tackle, um, Terence steele Man. It's for
Speaker 1: the first time this year because we really haven't had
Speaker 1: to talk about him negatively this season. Um, he didn't
Speaker 1: have a great game. There were lots of moments where
Speaker 1: he was getting beat and just wouldn't be able to
Speaker 1: hold up at the point of attack. That all being said,
Speaker 1: my question for you guys, do you think it was
Speaker 1: a bad decision decision for them to push him to
Speaker 1: left tackle rather than keep him on right and uh
Speaker 1: and then you know, obviously they put Collins back at
Speaker 1: the right tackle position, which is where he always was.
Speaker 1: This would be a great opportunity to thump my chest
Speaker 1: and say told you so, because that's what I wanted.
Speaker 1: I wanted still to stay it right and Inseci and
Speaker 1: Collins to just fight it out at practice and see
Speaker 1: who looked better by the end of the week. It
Speaker 1: to a degree, it is hindsight, though, because again Lyle
Speaker 1: Collins hasn't played left tackle since he was in college
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. He's been in the NFL for seven years.
Speaker 1: He's never done it, not even in practice or training camps.
Speaker 1: So maybe maybe muscle memory is a degree of that.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's so used to playing it that he would
Speaker 1: have stepped in and been fine and played a lot better.
Speaker 1: I can't say that for sure, and I can't I
Speaker 1: can't say for sure that he wouldn't have struggled either,
Speaker 1: But for some reason, I just trust a Lyle to
Speaker 1: do that more than I trust a young guy who
Speaker 1: hasn't played as many games, who's not as used to
Speaker 1: the strength and speed of the NFL. And oh, by
Speaker 1: the way, I do think that matters. Lyle played like
Speaker 1: three seasons at LSU at left tackle, and probably in
Speaker 1: high school as well. If I had to guess, and
Speaker 1: I do that many years of doing it over and
Speaker 1: over again, I feel like you don't lose it. He
Speaker 1: even said when they moved him to guard at practice.
Speaker 1: When he first came back, he was like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: played on the left side of my whole life. It's
Speaker 1: just it's ingrained in me. Um So I feel like
Speaker 1: he I feel like he might have handled it better,
Speaker 1: but there's no way to know. Well. First thing I
Speaker 1: want to do is figure out what's going on with
Speaker 1: it with Tyrn Smith, Like do you need surgery? Like
Speaker 1: if he needs surgery, I would do it. I would
Speaker 1: have done it yesterday. I mean, do clean out the
Speaker 1: bones whatever it is. And yeah, you don't he is
Speaker 1: needed down the stretch. You don't have to fight through
Speaker 1: this thing. Yeah. Not lucky, but I mean they didn't
Speaker 1: really lose much in the division. I mean, the Giants
Speaker 1: won the Giants one, but but they they they jumped
Speaker 1: in there. I mean, I mean that was that was
Speaker 1: kind of because if Philadelphia would have beaten the Chargers, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're starting to kind of way more huge in my opinion,
Speaker 1: so they're three and a half game lead. Not that,
Speaker 1: but but I would I would get I'd figure that
Speaker 1: out with the left tackle spot with him, but I
Speaker 1: would have moved um Lyle. I think Lyle should should
Speaker 1: be should be moved over to the left tackle. I
Speaker 1: mean Terrence Steele said it himself. I mean I asked
Speaker 1: him about out and he said, I would say it
Speaker 1: was a little harder than I thought would be moving
Speaker 1: to left. They have a good defense, good defensive ends,
Speaker 1: and they were giving me a challenge, and they traded
Speaker 1: von Miller. I mean, can you imagine what would have
Speaker 1: happen there? Yeah? Yeah. Now, now he didn't play in
Speaker 1: the Rams. I don't know what do you play, So
Speaker 1: maybe he wouldn't have played either. Maybe I don't know,
Speaker 1: but you know, he's been doing good on the right side.
Speaker 1: Just probably so I'm watching the game, things start happening,
Speaker 1: I'm like, good. That's why you get because you you
Speaker 1: stand for you to show up. You stand up there
Speaker 1: during press conferences and talk about how important content, continuity, continuing, continuity,
Speaker 1: continuity is in the old line, and then you want
Speaker 1: to make that change. And and we we saw how
Speaker 1: he was last year. We see a guy that's been
Speaker 1: doing well this year. Why mess it up? Why talk
Speaker 1: about keeping it consists in and not making as many
Speaker 1: moves as you know you don't need that. You got
Speaker 1: a guy like lel who's a veteran guy who has
Speaker 1: the experience. Yes, everything that Dave said, absolutely, but at
Speaker 1: the same time, I do trust Lyle to be better
Speaker 1: at that spot. Then you having to have Lyle back
Speaker 1: then move turn Steel to the other side. There's no
Speaker 1: need for that, and if there is, then just say it.
Speaker 1: Don't be talking about keeping it consistent during the whole
Speaker 1: week and last week too. So when I watched it, yes,
Speaker 1: it sucked for the Cowboys. Well, my good, that's why
Speaker 1: you got You know. It's funny is we always talk about, well,
Speaker 1: you know, just move moves Ac Martin out there, just
Speaker 1: moves Ach Martin out to write tackle if you need to,
Speaker 1: you know, but like no one says he hasn't done
Speaker 1: that since college and all that. So and that's from
Speaker 1: guard to tackle. So but yeah, because he's Ak Martin
Speaker 1: and everyone thinks he's great and he could do it,
Speaker 1: and he could he cast so that's why it's like, well,
Speaker 1: if he can do that, then I think I think
Speaker 1: Lyle could could move over to the left side. But
Speaker 1: but if he's not willing to do that for whatever
Speaker 1: the reason, then I think you need to open this
Speaker 1: up and maybe think maybe Tye and Secky's a better
Speaker 1: option here. He might be he might be a better
Speaker 1: option than Terrence Stealing. I just wonder now if, like,
Speaker 1: are they kind of having these sort of panicky conversations
Speaker 1: as well, or is it do you just stay the
Speaker 1: course like you're only again kind of going back to
Speaker 1: last year, like you're only gonna get better doing it more?
Speaker 1: So I hope no, I hope they don't panic with
Speaker 1: anything like. That's the kind of game where you can't
Speaker 1: overdo it like you can. You can come out of
Speaker 1: that game and start thinking, oh, do we need to
Speaker 1: do this week? So that's what I'm saying. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think this is a kind of game where you say, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's all take a breath. Okay, we didn't play our
Speaker 1: best football. There might be some tweaks you might need
Speaker 1: to make, But I wouldn't make any kind of major
Speaker 1: declarations coming out of that. I just thought of something too,
Speaker 1: you know, And they know more about what the timetable
Speaker 1: is for Tyrann Smith. But let's say that they didn't
Speaker 1: do that. Let's say that they kept Steal on the
Speaker 1: right side and they put lyel over there on the
Speaker 1: left side, and what Tyrn comes back next week two
Speaker 1: weeks we don't know then what are you doing? Now?
Speaker 1: You gotta make the same decision again. Now are you down?
Speaker 1: Terrence Steele's played seven great games on the right side,
Speaker 1: Now you're moving him over there. Like maybe they looked
Speaker 1: at this, like we know Tyrant's coming back in a
Speaker 1: couple and Lyle's going to be our right tackle. Let's
Speaker 1: get him in here and now now Terrence still will
Speaker 1: be the swing tackle. This may be open. Maybe it
Speaker 1: means that Tyrn Smith's not too far down the road here, right,
Speaker 1: And let's just McCarthy said he doesn't see it as
Speaker 1: a long term issue. Called McCarthy lies to us all
Speaker 1: the time, But I gotta I can only go off
Speaker 1: of what he says, and I haven't heard anything privately
Speaker 1: that contradicts that, And so I don't know if that
Speaker 1: means he plays against Atlanta, But I would imagine the
Speaker 1: team doesn't think he's Like people know what you mean
Speaker 1: when you say that, Like would you say that about McCarthy,
Speaker 1: But that he lies to us, he's playing the game
Speaker 1: that they can't play. If you follow the NFL closely
Speaker 1: enough to be listening to our podcast, you know that
Speaker 1: coaches lie about and they should. I don't. I get it.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't expect him to. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And I hope because there's something, there's more to it
Speaker 1: than just like I just I do. I will say Garrett,
Speaker 1: Garrett just kind of hit everything behind this vague cloud
Speaker 1: and a smile. Fair McCarthy's a little McCarthy's a little
Speaker 1: more willing to just directly tell you something. That's the
Speaker 1: opt I don't want to tell you that case. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's again, I don't blame him, I get it right,
Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't trust what he says as
Speaker 1: much as I might trust somebody else. But that's okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the thing also to consider here that we
Speaker 1: haven't really discussed is the fact that Terrence still is
Speaker 1: supposed to be your swing tackle. So if he's supposed
Speaker 1: to be your swing tackle, that means he should be
Speaker 1: able to pop between the two. That doesn't mean he's
Speaker 1: gonna do it well, but that doesn't mean that's the role.
Speaker 1: That's what they think he is is a swing tackle
Speaker 1: for them, and so maybe what we're finding out is
Speaker 1: he's a pretty good right tackle and that's it. It's
Speaker 1: a period after that there is no. Maybe he's not
Speaker 1: a swing tackle. Maybe he's just a pretty good right tackle.
Speaker 1: They haven't had to deal with this yet, but if
Speaker 1: Tyron does come back, they might have to look at
Speaker 1: this and go, we might need to keep four tackles active. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know that's something. You know, maybe a right side guy.
Speaker 1: Maybe he and Lyle they're just right tackles, and maybe
Speaker 1: Zeki's your best left tackle if times out. That's not
Speaker 1: ideal at all. But then also that's where Lyle's versatility
Speaker 1: to play some guard could help true as well. I
Speaker 1: just want to say, and all of this is warranted,
Speaker 1: it's easy to beat up on the tackles because that's
Speaker 1: where it did. They did the shuffling. The whole line
Speaker 1: kind of got bullied. I don't remember. I'd have to
Speaker 1: go back. Was running for his life a lot. Zack
Speaker 1: Martin got They got the better of him at least twice.
Speaker 1: I just remember a couple plays where they ran like
Speaker 1: a game and Zach is kind of catching up to
Speaker 1: get back in front of the guy. And if you
Speaker 1: remember that's I was like, well, Dak's calf is fine
Speaker 1: because he's had to bail and loop out of the
Speaker 1: pocket at least three times all throughout that game. He
Speaker 1: especially in the second half, and again like that they
Speaker 1: were coming. I mean, he just was a beating across
Speaker 1: across the depth chart. Name your spot they got. I
Speaker 1: didn't whip see any limping. He looked pretty normal from
Speaker 1: that standpoint. The passes were off, though it looks like
Speaker 1: a break when we come back. I do want to
Speaker 1: talk a little bit more about that, because I do wonder,
Speaker 1: and this is one of the questions that I mean,
Speaker 1: my wife were talking about last night as we were
Speaker 1: talking about this game, is how much did the fact
Speaker 1: that not only was Dad coming back after being off
Speaker 1: a few weeks, most of the receivers were hurt last week,
Speaker 1: so he didn't get a lot of practice time with them.
Speaker 1: How much did that affect the Cowboys ability to be
Speaker 1: on last night, which they weren't on. I wonder how
Speaker 1: much that had played into that. We'll talk about that
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Speaker 1: We're talking about the beat down. Cowboys lose thirty six.
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott yesterday was nineteen to thirty ninety nine percent
Speaker 1: completion rate not good at all. Two hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: two yards, two touchdowns, one interception. My question for you
Speaker 1: guys is how much do you think that Dak being
Speaker 1: out for as long as he was, plus the fact
Speaker 1: that last week when he's coming back and able to
Speaker 1: practice fully, he doesn't have most of his receivers because
Speaker 1: they were also injured. And I think CD may have
Speaker 1: practiced Saturday, but most of the week they were not practicing.
Speaker 1: How much do you think all of that combined was
Speaker 1: what we saw yesterday that they just went on you know,
Speaker 1: you have one guy that's out of practice, you kind
Speaker 1: of can they can jump back in and just kind
Speaker 1: of pick up where they left off. We have that
Speaker 1: much changed. See how much do you think that that
Speaker 1: was factor? I'm sure it did. And also you throw
Speaker 1: in the factor that the timing was was was messed
Speaker 1: up with. You know, there was a lot more pressure
Speaker 1: than we've seen before obviously with tyring now, so I
Speaker 1: think you factor all of that in. It just looked
Speaker 1: like they were out of sync and they were the
Speaker 1: whole game. They just couldn't ever get on track. Nobody
Speaker 1: was getting on track at the same time. When Dac
Speaker 1: was hitting his guys, they were dropping it when they
Speaker 1: were open. He was missing throws he normally doesn't miss.
Speaker 1: It just wasn't just all together. They just were not
Speaker 1: on the same page. And Dad made sure in those quotes.
Speaker 1: He made sure to mention that a couple of times,
Speaker 1: which I don't blame him for that. He was like,
Speaker 1: he said, I wasn't hitting some throws. We weren't passing
Speaker 1: and catching like we normally do. It was and it
Speaker 1: was all of it. It was all of it, was all.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just him, It was the other guy. There's
Speaker 1: more than enough blame to go around. It's the same
Speaker 1: thing I said about not playing with an edge like
Speaker 1: a football. Players don't just want to be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we were off, They're gonna they're gonna go back and
Speaker 1: forth and kind of talk out the side of their
Speaker 1: mouth and then eventually they'll say it and same CD.
Speaker 1: He was just like it was weird, man, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. But then he then he
Speaker 1: gets more into it and he says, timing is everything,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. And throughout the week we didn't
Speaker 1: that we didn't get I do feel like that played
Speaker 1: a part in it slightly. Then he goes on to say,
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, we're out here
Speaker 1: doing what we love. We still have timing. We just
Speaker 1: wear in a groove today, which and that's yes, obviously
Speaker 1: that's part of it. It's also the epitome of excuse making.
Speaker 1: I mean, we can't sit here and glow about the
Speaker 1: dack yard and how many reps these guys have taken
Speaker 1: and how seriously they take it. And then I'm just like, whoa,
Speaker 1: they didn't get a week of practice, no wonder they sucks,
Speaker 1: Like no, yeah, But I do think there's something to
Speaker 1: that from the standpoint that. Of course, we talk about
Speaker 1: it all the time when teams are rolling and then
Speaker 1: they get a bye and then they come back and
Speaker 1: you're like, how much will just that week of not
Speaker 1: being in the normal, of course and what they're doing
Speaker 1: of course them, you know, to quote Mike Tomlin, we
Speaker 1: do not care. Absolutely, we could. They shouldn't care about Well,
Speaker 1: I don't care either. Okay, it's it's an excuse. Be better,
Speaker 1: you're the you're the CD lamb. How did the league
Speaker 1: let him fall to seventeen Dak Prescott fourty million dollar player?
Speaker 1: Like you still like, yes, there are reasons why these
Speaker 1: things happen. I don't care. Play better. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: it comes down to, right, But I think the point
Speaker 1: here is, and what we're trying to figure out is
Speaker 1: that is that what it is? I mean, is there
Speaker 1: is there a reason for it. It's not an excuse.
Speaker 1: It's just like, Okay, there's a lot of things that
Speaker 1: are happening here. Is this going to be a trend
Speaker 1: towards Atlanta the Raiders? But and that's and that's when
Speaker 1: you say big picture, that's having we're getting into the
Speaker 1: weeds on everything that went wrong. But that's why I'm
Speaker 1: still I'm not overly concerned, because no, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't think these are trends. We've got how what was
Speaker 1: that the eighth game? We've got seven games of evidence
Speaker 1: that suggests that that's not the case. So we have
Speaker 1: not right now, this is the operation, right now right,
Speaker 1: But that's what he's trying to do. Like, I think
Speaker 1: you're talking about the both sides of your mouth. You're
Speaker 1: not even you're not meaning to, but you're like, but
Speaker 1: what we're trying to figure out is this, and you're
Speaker 1: not even worried. You're the one that says you're not
Speaker 1: worried about this because you think something's happened this week
Speaker 1: or something happened that is not the normal Cowboys. And
Speaker 1: that's what we're trying to figure out. Is it? Was
Speaker 1: it practice? Was it sink? Was it dac out three weeks?
Speaker 1: Was it you know what I mean? Was it a
Speaker 1: little bit of every course? No? And I mean that's
Speaker 1: what you do in these shows, you recap what happened.
Speaker 1: And I absolutely think that not having the practice time
Speaker 1: Dak misses three weeks, only gets to practice two days,
Speaker 1: doesn't have his preferred receivers, and Mari's limited CD hurts
Speaker 1: his ankle in practice, all that plays into it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I do think that's why I just, number one, I
Speaker 1: don't care, and number two, there's enough evidence from the
Speaker 1: rest of the season that I just I don't worry
Speaker 1: that it's a trend. Yeah, I think I think everyone's
Speaker 1: hoping that there's something, you know, there's something that's not normal,
Speaker 1: and it's almost you're right, it's kind of hoping. It's
Speaker 1: like whatever we've seen, we're hoping that this week was
Speaker 1: just different because of this or this or this. But
Speaker 1: that's not gonna what's gonna be what normally happens. But
Speaker 1: I do sorry, go ahead, I was there's evidence in
Speaker 1: an all great football team, super Bowl winning teams from
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys on with other teams. There's always I'll
Speaker 1: never forget that ninety four forty nine Ers team that
Speaker 1: was really good that when Dion was on and all
Speaker 1: that they won him. They lost forty to eight to
Speaker 1: the Eagles like a week four and the Eagles were
Speaker 1: like five win team. I mean, sometimes it just happened.
Speaker 1: Happened just you just put up a stinkers. The Packers
Speaker 1: got like completely destroyed at the beginning of this season
Speaker 1: against New Orleans and we were all thinking, well, maybe
Speaker 1: no one's gonna be great. Saints figure them out, alright.
Speaker 1: I could probably go get that Rubik's cube off Kevin's
Speaker 1: desk over there and figure that out before I figured
Speaker 1: out the Saints. That crazy, my wonderful producer, our wonderful producer,
Speaker 1: Caden Gates. We're gonna use this, Okay. Well, he produces
Speaker 1: most of the stuff I do. That's why, as he
Speaker 1: produces everybody else's stuff too. He's whatever. He's a man
Speaker 1: of the people's The thirteen Seahawks and the nineteen Chiefs
Speaker 1: are pretty much the only Super Bowl winners in modern
Speaker 1: memory who didn't get their asses absolutely kicked at least once. Yes,
Speaker 1: Buccaneers lost thirty eight to three to the Saints last year.
Speaker 1: Patriots in eighteen lost twenty six to ten to the
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. Seventeen Eagles lost twenty four end to the Seahawks.
Speaker 1: Sixteen Pats got shut out by the Bills. It goes
Speaker 1: on and on and on, and that's I guess, And
Speaker 1: you're right, I guess. I was kind of talking out
Speaker 1: of the side of my mouth a little bit. But
Speaker 1: you get on this role, you win six straight games,
Speaker 1: everything's beautiful and this is going to happen all the time,
Speaker 1: and then you have a bad day and everybody's like,
Speaker 1: see their frauds. I told you, And I think it's
Speaker 1: really just a defense mechanism because you don't want to
Speaker 1: get hurt. Yeah, but guess what you signed up for
Speaker 1: this ride. You're on it now. Man, we're going That's
Speaker 1: exactly My best friend hit me yesterday. He was like, man, see,
Speaker 1: this is what I was fearing. I'm like, well, let's
Speaker 1: just slow down a bit. It was like, this is
Speaker 1: one game, and I don't think it necessarily necessarily right
Speaker 1: now is an indication of what they're going to be
Speaker 1: the rest of the season or what they've been at
Speaker 1: this point. They had a bad day, it happens in
Speaker 1: the NFL, right it's just the Falcons that will not
Speaker 1: be sninking up on anybody this game. And that's that's
Speaker 1: the thing. I mean, they won, they won a game.
Speaker 1: They're playing okay, and you know they've got a quarterback
Speaker 1: that's won an MVP in the past. And I don't
Speaker 1: know who they're receivers are, but I'm just saying they're, um.
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn will make sure that things are ready to
Speaker 1: go meantime you get fired by somebody like got also,
Speaker 1: which I agree that everything you just said, but that's
Speaker 1: It's something I've been talking about with fans too, is
Speaker 1: the idea that this is a trap game, And I say,
Speaker 1: I don't believe in that at all in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a thing. And somebody just tweeted
Speaker 1: at me or like you, and that's what I was
Speaker 1: getting into is somebody was like, well, you just defined
Speaker 1: a trap game because the Cowboys didn't come with the
Speaker 1: necessary energy. I don't think that's the same thing. A
Speaker 1: trap game in college is like LSU sees Alabama on
Speaker 1: the horizon and they're so much more talented than Mississippi
Speaker 1: State or whoever. Usually probably just came off a big game.
Speaker 1: So you got this one sandwich game between it's like
Speaker 1: and the thing and what makes it a trap game
Speaker 1: is in college you have the talent to win a
Speaker 1: game like that. Where Oklahoma did it to Kansas a
Speaker 1: few weeks ago. If you follow college football, God, they
Speaker 1: played awful and Kansas had a lead. I think they
Speaker 1: were up, remember they were up in the second half,
Speaker 1: and OU was just like, oh yeah, we've been at
Speaker 1: the top of the recruiting rankings for a decade. We're
Speaker 1: just gonna pull ourselves together and we're gonna win the
Speaker 1: double digits. We just are. When I say trap games
Speaker 1: don't exist in the NFL, my point is even among
Speaker 1: the unless it's a rare example of like the very
Speaker 1: best team in the very worst. The talent levels just
Speaker 1: not that far apart, and so if you don't bring it,
Speaker 1: you can lose to anybody. And that's I think Nick's
Speaker 1: exactly right. The Falcons aren't sneaking up on this team.
Speaker 1: The Falcons can still win that game. But what I
Speaker 1: am confident of is that the Cowboys won't just play
Speaker 1: that ridiculously poorly. But but not a guarantee of a win.
Speaker 1: But I do think maybe they weren't looking at something else.
Speaker 1: But I think the trap in this case, I think
Speaker 1: it was this one. The Broncos game was a trap
Speaker 1: game from the standpoint of kind of what we had
Speaker 1: said before about they were winning these games. They won
Speaker 1: with Cooper Russia on the road again against the Vikings,
Speaker 1: they pulled out this game somehow. Against the Patriots. They
Speaker 1: were winning the six eight weeks in a row now
Speaker 1: without without a loss, and you're and you just feel
Speaker 1: like kind of invincible, and surely with that coming back
Speaker 1: at home, kind of roll this team. You're opening kickoff
Speaker 1: fifty yards, watch this see this is what we thought? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they all we thought they were. I absolutely think that
Speaker 1: was the case. And maybe I'm just quibbling. I just
Speaker 1: when you say it's a trap, like this could have
Speaker 1: happened against any team, Like it's not because it was
Speaker 1: the Broncos or anything. You just if you just if
Speaker 1: you don't come ready, this will. I mean the Jags
Speaker 1: beat the Bills yesterday. I mean that happens is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: That's wild. Yeah, that offense, the Bills offense, which I
Speaker 1: think is up there with the best offense. I didn't
Speaker 1: watch that game, but I bet you it was something
Speaker 1: similar in the Bills. I think they lost going into
Speaker 1: their by and they're like, all right, we're gonna this
Speaker 1: is We're gonna get right here today. Let's just bomb
Speaker 1: this thing away and we'll all be cracking beers by
Speaker 1: the end of the third quarter. And that's just not
Speaker 1: the attitude you can have ever in the n And
Speaker 1: what was so interesting is that after the game, McCarthy said,
Speaker 1: we talked a lot this week about not eating the cheese,
Speaker 1: and there they were like, it's just they have been
Speaker 1: talking about this, they have been talking about this, and
Speaker 1: really he'd been trying to coach them to not buy
Speaker 1: into the idea that you're as great as everybody says
Speaker 1: you are but natural, just natural who we are as people.
Speaker 1: This kind of thing happens. It's why after a game
Speaker 1: like that, we get to see was this an aberration?
Speaker 1: Because if it is, look out, Atlanta Falcons, you're probably
Speaker 1: gonna take a nice spank in this weekend. If it's
Speaker 1: not though. If it's not though, and they still think,
Speaker 1: if they think too much, that was an aberration and
Speaker 1: they think we'll do we'll kill them, then here we
Speaker 1: go and now you start taking that slide and then
Speaker 1: it becomes a situation. Can you figure out how to
Speaker 1: foop that switch? You just got my homes coming up? Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: all right, we appreciate you guys joining us. We'll be
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Speaker 1: around the NFL, see what's happening around some other teams
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