WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Horse Play 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:05.600 The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:16.360 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. Are you ready 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:20.200 for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:24.520 Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:29.880 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:30.680 --> 0:00:36.199 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:41.720 It is Monday, November eight, twenty twenty one, season seventeen, 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:45.479 episode number fifty six. Welcome to the latest edition of 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:48.000 The Break. We are alive from the s WBC Mortgage 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:49.960 studios at the Star, and man, do we have a 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:53.400 lot to talk about today. Cowboys take their first and 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:57.120 really only beat down of the season yesterday at the 0:00:57.120 --> 0:01:01.400 hands of the lowly Denver Bronco, or at least lowly 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:03.639 as of what we thought of them on Friday, very 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:06.720 very different team showed up on Sunday. They beat the 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:09.160 Cowboys thirty to sixteen. We're gonna tell you what what 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:11.120 our thoughts were on that game before we get to 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:16.039 that real quick, Nick, give me a fifty six fifty six, Um, 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:20.120 how about Eugene the hitting machine Lockhart. Here we go. 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:22.319 That's a good could have used the hitting machine. Yesterday 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:26.880 definitely could use a little hitting machine. Yeah, that was 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:29.000 a that was a rough game, man. I just I 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:31.720 don't think that any of us, I know, none of 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:34.640 us expected what we saw yesterday. Even if in some 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:37.440 of some of your somewhere in your wild imagination you 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:39.880 could have imagined that Cowboys were gonna lose that game, 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:42.920 nobody thought it would be a beat down like that. 0:01:43.040 --> 0:01:44.960 Let's start first, though, I want to get a big 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:49.480 picture storyline from each of you guys of what was yesterday. Dave, 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:51.320 I see that look on your face. Let's start with you. 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:53.760 What was your big picture story you take from the 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:56.440 big picture from yesterday or big picture because I gotta 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:59.480 tell you a story from yesterday, Okay from Yester, Well, 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:03.520 I think yesterday was just a classic example of what 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:06.520 we mean when we say this is the NFL. Like 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:08.839 that's why we throw that out there all the time. 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:12.080 And people have been tweeting me for the last eighteen 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:13.880 hours like, oh it was a trap game. They were 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:18.040 looking ahead. No, it's the NFL, and the gap between 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:22.240 the good and the mediocre and the bad is shockingly small. 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:24.960 And if you don't come with it, you're gonna get 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:27.760 your ass kicked. That's my big picture takeaway, and that's 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:30.520 why having had a chance to really think about it 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:33.280 and look around the rest of the NFL. Do you 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:35.919 want to lose No? Do you want to get embarrassed 0:02:35.960 --> 0:02:39.080 in your own house? No? But like I feel a 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:40.560 lot better than I bet a lot of people do 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.280 right now, because I'm just like, it's a weird league 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:46.000 for whatever reason. I don't think the Cowboys showed up 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:48.359 thinking they needed to try yesterday and they got a 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:52.919 harsh reminder and you pick up the pieces and move forward. 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:56.160 Stuff happens during the course of a now seventeen game season, 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:00.560 and I feel I'm sorry if I like a Homer. 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.280 I feel pretty confident that it's more of a blip 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:06.919 than some sort of crazy indicator that this team's actually bad. 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:12.440 Amber I'm not worried. I wasn't even mad. I was 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:15.600 like watching the game and just complete disbelief. You know, 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:18.960 when you're like, what the heck is happening? But at 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:21.840 the same time, I know that that's not them, Like 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:25.360 what happened yesterday is not really them. Despite all the 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:28.840 mistakes that they've made throughout the season, I truly believe 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:31.080 that they're gonna come back next week and play, and 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:33.520 actually they can't get out. I thought we were gonna 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:36.080 fight like all day today. I'm shocked to hear this 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:39.640 coming out of your mouth. Was so I told it 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:41.960 about this yesterday last night, and I was gonna look 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:44.640 it up, and I just completely forgot. But and I 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:47.320 know this is a different team, different coaches and everything, 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:50.480 But you guys remember several years ago when they played 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:54.760 in Denver that they played pretty much saying makes that way. 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:57.720 It was embarrassing and we didn't really know what the 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:00.840 heck happened because every single player had a bad game 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:04.720 that day. Do you guys remember how they came back 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:08.480 and played the next few weeks? Not off the top 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:10.120 of my head, to be honest with you, they went 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:11.920 nine and seven that year. I know that I wanted 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:14.480 to look it up, but anyways, my point is, I 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:17.440 think it was just that exact game that that you 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:22.080 just don't really know what happened in all levels coaching 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:25.400 the players on defense, on offense. And I'm sure we'll 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:27.479 get into the whole thing, but at the end of 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:32.039 the day, I'm really not that concerns. Yeah, I think 0:04:32.080 --> 0:04:34.160 that they can clean it up and come back and 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:39.480 play better for another wind? Nick what Nick body language? 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:42.440 I'm curious. I think they I mean, you know, you 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:46.680 guys said if they got outplayed out, hit out, block out, 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:52.280 tackled out, coached out, cheered and verbroncos dot com, maybe 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:53.800 they had a better day than as. I don't know. 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:56.640 I'm just saying that every everything was better. Their stories 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:59.720 were probably better. It's more fun. It's more fun to 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:02.840 write about a dominant win than an ass kicking. Yeah, 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:06.360 but they they I think they just underestimated them the 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:08.480 whole game. And I think it starts with McCarthy. You know, 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:11.040 I don't. I don't. I don't blast this guy like 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:13.160 like other people do. I give them the praise. I 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:15.760 think coaches get praise when they win. And I think that, 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:17.960 you know, I put it on them to start. I 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:20.320 think I think going out the way they did and 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:22.680 saying I thought, and I said this on the radio 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:24.080 this morning, I thought they played the game like you 0:05:24.120 --> 0:05:27.040 would play Madden. You know, I'm gonna just I'm gonna 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:28.760 score here. I'm not kicking a field goal. I'm just 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:32.880 gonna score your kid. Oh yeah, yeah, I didn't catch Okay, 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:34.320 we didn't get it I'll get it the next time. 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:36.280 We'll stop them, we'll get it the next time. And 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:38.640 it just and they just kind of underestimated them. And 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:41.440 you know, I didn't have a problem with the first 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:43.240 fourth down. I had a problem with the second one. 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:45.960 And you know, even though the even though they could 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:49.200 have got it, but they didn't. You know, I'm a 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:51.400 little bit more concerned than you guys are, just because 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:53.920 I like, well, we'll see, we'll see what they are. 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:55.880 But if you put that on tape, now I know 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:57.599 what you've got. Now, I know you can play like 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:00.520 crap and you can get blown out at home to 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:03.960 an average team with no star power. So it's a 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.080 little bit concerning. Your eyes are open, like we'll see, 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:08.360 we'll see what happens this week. Yeah, you mentioned that 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:10.560 those calls there at the beginning of the game, and 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:14.239 I think that was actually a part of that thinking. 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.040 Was a part of the reason why I think they 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:19.120 got what they got is because to me, that signify 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:21.560 the fact that in both those situations, you know, you 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:23.800 got fourth and one at Denver thirty eight, you got 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:26.800 fourth and two at Denver twenty Neither time did you 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:29.480 try for field goal. You just say we're going to 0:06:29.560 --> 0:06:30.920 go for it. And I kind of agree a little 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:32.440 bit more with the fourth and one and thirty eight, 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:34.760 that's a pretty long field goal. Give it a shot. 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:37.760 Fourth and two with the twenty that's where and I 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:39.440 didn't kill him. I'll be honest with you. I didn't 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:41.560 kill him because I had the same mentality, which was, 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:44.839 I'm not scared of this team. Worst case scenario. I 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:47.360 think the defense is going to stop them from scoring 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:48.960 more points in their offense is going to be able 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:52.120 to score. So take a shot, be aggressive. And I 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:54.200 think that also is what bit him in the butt. 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:56.960 I think they went into that game thinking we're just 0:06:57.000 --> 0:06:59.640 a better team, so we're gonna try some things, and 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:01.840 I think they started pressing as the game went on. 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:04.000 I think that's why guys were dropping balls. I think 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:06.400 that's why guys were, you know, dak is overthrowing guys 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:09.240 that are open. I think it's because they felt like 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:11.400 they were a better team and at some point their 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:14.600 betterness was just going to take over, right And when 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:16.760 it takes over, then we'll run away with this game. 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:19.400 And I think it played out just the opposite because, 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:22.040 as they said, Dave, this is the NFL and anybody 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:24.240 can beat you any given week. I do agree with that, 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.920 and I definitely I thought they pressed And yeah, I 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:29.480 mean that's such a great analogy. It reminded me of 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:32.560 me trying to win the Heisman on NC DOUBLEA football. 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:34.960 It's like, I gotta throw for four to fifty and 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:36.720 five touchdowns if I'm going to stay in the race. 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:38.960 And that's I thought Dak played that way. I thought 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:40.800 everybody played that way. It was just like, yeah, I 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:43.160 gotta I gotta get these stats up. We gotta remind 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:45.840 people who we are, and you kind of lose sight 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:48.080 of the big picture, which is winning the game. Having 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:50.800 said that, I don't have an issue with the aggressive 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:52.720 play calling. To be honest with you, well you never do. 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:56.040 Let's be honest. That's the way, right, But fifty five 0:07:56.120 --> 0:08:00.560 yard field goal, I mean, we've we've been I think 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:02.720 we all agree with that. And then the second one, 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:05.640 I mean, I can't believe. And who is a bigger 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:08.640 Dak homer than yours? Truly, I can't believe we're killing 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:11.280 the decision Instead of the forty million dollar quarterback who 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:14.640 biffed it to the Cedric Wilson's ankles complete the pass 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:18.480 it wasn't tipped. Dak said it himself. Complete the easy 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:21.760 past to Cedric Wilson and keep the chains moving the offense. 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:24.560 Even still with how am surprised and impressed we are 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:26.800 with the way the defense is played. The offense is 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:29.440 your ticket. That's why you're gonna win games. That's why 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:31.960 you're gonna get where you want to go. Complete a 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:34.560 very easy past to Cedric Wilson. Dak Prescott, I don't 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:36.200 have a problem with it at all, but it's just 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:40.280 it's a microcosm of everything they just they did. They 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:43.320 didn't do anything right. You throw it at Cedric Wilson's ankles. 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:47.480 Amari Cooper, I bet he saw like he saw that 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:48.959 catch over the middle of the third and one that 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:51.840 he dropped in his mind as the ball's coming at him, 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:53.640 He's like, I'm gonna house this, We're gonna be it's 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:56.760 gonna beet nineteen to seven. Still got a chance. Yeah, 0:08:56.840 --> 0:08:59.280 then it's on the ground. And that's just at every 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:02.760 aspect of the team. They just couldn't do anything right 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:04.640 all day. And also bet that this morning when he 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:07.120 woke up, he was still seeing that ball not going 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:08.839 into his hands and hitting the ground. Like, how did 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:10.960 that drop that pass? Because that's not a pass that 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:13.480 he took. Somebody put out a graphic on Sunday night 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:17.040 that was like, Amari Cooper's been targeted X amount of 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:19.640 times this season. Sunday night after the Vikings game, I'm sorry, 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:21.760 you know, with the juggling catch and the game winner, 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:23.720 and they were like, he hasn't dropped a target this year, 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:26.960 and what are the odds that he finally has a 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:29.720 drop and it is as wide open and easy as 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:31.240 it's going to be for as good of a player 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:33.520 as he is. You guys mentioned earlier, nick I think 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:35.880 you mentioned that you give a little you give someone 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:38.200 the blame to Mike McCarthy here, and he even said 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:39.959 after the game, he said, we got out coaching, we 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:43.000 got out played. There was something though, he said after 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.240 that that caught my attention, and nick I mentioned it 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:48.199 team last night. He said, maybe I over coached the 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:50.640 penalties this week, and that jumped out at me because 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:54.080 when you think about how the Cowboys played, they were 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.840 they did seem to be a little bit they lost 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:58.959 a little bit at edge that we've seen them play with. 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:02.120 And when he said maybe I over coached penalties, this week. 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:04.600 It made me think, was this a situation where he 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:07.280 all week was harping on them, don't don't go to 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:09.840 that edge, don't go there, like you gotta make sure 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:12.600 you're not getting these dumb penalties. And because of that, 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.040 maybe they were a little more tentative, maybe they lost 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:16.760 a little bit that age. What were your thoughts on 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.280 that comment. That's interesting that he would say that, And 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:21.640 you know, I don't know if it translates to that 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.400 at all, but it felt like something they weren't tackling 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:26.400 those guys and those running backs. You know, they were 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:29.800 good backs, I guess, but but I mean they're not 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:33.200 like you know, Jim Brown Walter Peyton, which they made 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:35.160 it out to be in that game. I mean, they 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:37.679 just they didn't tackle. They didn't they didn't bring them 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:40.440 to the ground. I thought they got beat on second down. 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:44.080 I really did. I thought, because you get ten tackles 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:47.199 for a loss, that is that is insane amount of 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:50.200 tackles for loss. But how many times were the second 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:52.320 and fourteen and then they'd get a run for twelve 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:54.040 yards and announced third and two and then they would 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:56.760 convert it. So I don't I don't know if that 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.480 was it or not, But I wouldn't worry about it 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:01.840 for this game because it ain't happen in this game. 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:05.280 I promise you their defensive coordinator knows who they're playing 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:07.480 this game, and their guys are going to play to 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:11.480 their level of their defensive coordinator, and the aggressiveness will 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:13.880 definitely be there for this game. This is an entirely 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:16.160 subjective way to look at it, and I don't like 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:20.959 talking about fantasy football, but I have Melvin Gordon and 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:24.360 Javonte Williams on my team. I've they've been there and 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:26.280 injuries have forced me to play these guys, and I 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:28.600 like all week, I was like, those guys haven't done 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:31.120 crap all year, and nobody knows that better than me. 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:35.840 I was shocking to see the way that they broke contact. 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.440 I mean, their their yak must have been it. I 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:40.679 mean they ran for one ninety one and I like 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:42.720 two thirds of it must have been yak. It felt 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:44.800 like they were slipping a tackle every time they touched 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:47.160 the ball, do you think And I noticed this during 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:49.640 the game a lot of times, where they ended up 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:52.320 being broken tackles and guys kept getting more yards. It 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:55.520 looked like the defenders were reaching for the ball, grabbing 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:57.439 at the ball. Do you think that maybe they've kind 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:01.000 of overcoached trying to get the turnover and not emphasize 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:03.520 enough or one thing is get the guy down, mate, 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:06.080 that's pressing, like I said, the whole team. It's like, well, 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.200 if we can strip this guy here, then then the 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:10.640 offense has a short field and we can get back 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:12.960 on track. We can make it thirteen to seven. And 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:15.520 all of a sudden, you're not focusing on getting the 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:17.600 guy down and he's got twelve yards when he should 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.960 have had three. I just don't think how do you 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:23.840 blame that on over coaching? I mean, how do you 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:27.160 take such a step backwards when they've been playing the 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:28.959 way that they have, you know, like, it doesn't make 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:30.720 sense to me. The one thing, and I get it, 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.800 like if you emphasize something so much like hey, be careful, 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:37.520 look for this, do that, do this, Yes, but that's 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:40.160 just such a drastic change. So I would have to 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:42.760 think that he had to come down with them maybe 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:46.120 feeling a little over confident and thinking like you guys 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:49.679 were talking about, which again it's another thing. I'm like, Okay, 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:52.640 where they have they been feeling kind of cocky. Have 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:56.200 they been feeling kind of was that? Has that even 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.959 been live? I'm glad you brought that. I mean, I'm 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:01.200 glad you brought that up, because it's really all I've 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:03.880 been thinking about. And we don't have as good of 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:05.760 a sense of the vibe of the team as we 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:08.360 used to. We don't see them nearly as often as 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:10.720 we would pre code. We're not in their locker room 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.679 where you kind of hear those side conversations and see, yeah, 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.240 and we're and you know, they bring four guys a 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:18.440 day out here to talk to us in a very 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:22.880 weird setting. It's just not the same. But and the 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:25.480 big thing too, is you're never gonna get a guy 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:29.800 to directly say like, yeah, we didn't take this team seriously. 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:33.200 That's that's like a suicidal type of quote, right, That's 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.040 just something that you're not going to get a guy 0:13:35.080 --> 0:13:38.360 to say. But if you pass through the quotes, there 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:40.840 were a couple Layton vander esh six different times he 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:42.600 was like, I think we needed this. I you know, 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:44.559 this is the type of thing that that can help 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:47.680 us in the long run. And then Dak was asked 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:51.000 directly if if you felt maybe you felt a little 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:52.640 too high. Maybe you're a little too high on yourself. 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:54.240 And it's a long quote. I'm not going to read 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:57.199 the whole thing, but he said, with everything that went 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:59.439 wrong in this game, I would say maybe. And then 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.640 he goes on and he says, when you win a 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:04.560 game like we did last week on the road, in 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:07.880 a tough environment, everything going against you, I think sometimes 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:09.480 you think you can just roll out there and get 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:12.160 it done. And again he goes on to say a 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.120 lot more and he's like, there was not a point 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:16.160 up until the last five six minutes of that game 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:18.200 where we still didn't believe we could get it done. 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:22.640 And why not Minnesota, New England fifteen penalties, everything going 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:24.440 against you, you you still find a way to get it done. 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:27.120 And he said, when it finally sinks in that it's 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.880 not going to happen, you're reminded that this is the NFL, 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:33.240 this is a really tough business, and again, you're not 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:35.720 gonna get it direct Like, yes, we didn't try as 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.280 hard as we could have, but I just think there 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:41.960 was an edge lacking. I think they probably thought, like, man, 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:44.240 who's gonna mess with us? If we can go do 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:48.000 that in Minnesota with Cooper Rush, this is the mortalizing game. 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:51.360 And you know, and we've felt it. I mean we've 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:53.240 seen it on the road. We've seen the Cowboys. I mean, 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:56.280 I guarantee the Chargers felt that way. You know, when 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:58.760 they walk into their home stadium and they feel that way, 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:01.720 and the Vikings maybe last week too. I mean, you know, 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:04.360 that's the nature of the league. That's what happens. And 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:06.280 then you give them a lot of reasons to get 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:08.760 loud and cheer and stuff like that, so then you 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:11.360 know you had that going against you. And I mean, 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:14.480 as a special teams player, all you want to do 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:16.600 is block a punt. I mean that's all you want 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:18.960 to do. That that that changes the game. And you 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:20.880 can't even do that, right, I mean, you can't even 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:22.800 do You can't even block a punt. Right. That's when 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:24.520 you know it's not your day. When you block a punt, 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.280 you don't get the football. I mean, everything that and 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.440 I know you're probably gonna talk about it, but everything 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:32.160 that you when you come out of halftime, you were 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:34.160 this is a third quarter team. We got to get 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:36.400 a stop to get off the field. We gotta get 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:38.440 and then they block a punt and you still don't 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.160 get the football and the next thing you know, it's 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:44.400 nineteen that it doesn't make sense age You can't you 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:47.680 were you were watching like the Fox. What channel wasn't 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:50.920 on Fox? You were watching the TV broadcast? Right? Were 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:54.920 the announcer's hip to what was going on immediately? No? Okay, 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:58.120 because that's well to be fair, I had the English 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:02.280 the Spanish broadcast, but people did not really know what 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:04.480 was going on. I like, we always talk about you 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:07.720 miss something by not having all of that information coming 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:09.440 at you. You've kind of got to figure things out 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:12.240 for yourself. In the press box, me and Nick were 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:14.600 on the same page as like three plays kicked their ass, 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:17.600 blocked the punt. This is it's gonna be It's gonna 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:19.920 be tight. But this is how it happens. And they 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:22.440 go to commercial. The guy with the oven mittens down 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:24.520 on the field with the neon orange of them, and 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:26.720 you're like, okay, they're at commercial. The offense will be out, 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:30.320 and then all of a sudden, the Denver offense is 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:32.920 trotting out and you're it's dawning on you like, wait, 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:35.600 what what's going on? And then the ref makes his 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:38.320 announcement like it hit me like a ton of bricks 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:40.160 when I realized that the offense wasn't going to have 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:43.280 the ball back because we had gotten no indication otherwise 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:46.440 that that was going to happen. Yeah, that was It 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:49.960 was huge, And you know it. You can argue all 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:51.720 day long with it. And I mean, and I've already 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:56.080 done that this morning, and it's it's a rule change 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:58.400 that needs to be I mean, it's a change in 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:00.720 the rules. I think that needs to happen. Um, it's 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:04.320 rare when this situation. My my take to the whole 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:07.480 thing is if the result of the play does not 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:11.119 result into a first down, then then it should be 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:13.280 the Cowboys ball. That's the way I look at it. 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:16.000 And maybe there's some nuances I don't I don't know of, 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:19.840 But if if it's fourth and twelve and all this 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:22.560 weird crap happens and they get seven yards with the ball, 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:25.159 then that's where the ball should be. You did not 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:29.080 get a first down. And I don't understand it. I don't. 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:31.320 I just I don't get it. It kind of makes 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:33.120 my brain hurt thinking about it, to be on because 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:36.680 I can imagine why it exists. Like I can think 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:40.000 of a scenario where a guy gets a finger on 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:41.639 it and it goes past the line of scrimmage and 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:45.400 some wonky stuff happens. I'm sure you know the game 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:47.600 can surprise you, right, like the more you watch, the 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:50.120 more new stuff you see. But yeah, I mean, that's 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.320 that seems focused like you know what I don't understand, 0:17:52.359 --> 0:17:54.720 because in the same way, what I don't understand is 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.600 why we haven't seen this play out more because we 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:01.119 see times when a guy gets a fingertip on a 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:04.199 punt and I'm surprised that that hasn't happened in a 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:07.439 situation where the guy kind of, you know, fair catches it, 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:09.160 but he doesn't catch it. It It just kind of bounces 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:11.360 and he goes down the and the the other team 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:14.040 goes down and downs the ball that would be their ball. 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:16.119 And I don't know that the guy back there getting 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:18.800 the that's gonna catch the punt always knows that a 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:21.639 fingertip actually one of his guys actually got a fingertip 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:23.479 on it. I'm just surprised that this has never happened 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:26.840 before and that I've seen it in football and this 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:30.080 kind of scenario where a guy someone recovers just because 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:33.119 the ball was partially tipped or a distance. It was blocked, 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:35.560 but it was even partially tipped. It's kind of surprising 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:37.600 that this hasn't come up to where I've seen that 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:40.480