Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the
Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jette and he.
Speaker 3: Arms a disgusting abomination, the Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 1: I could be a new liner from a dimly lit
Speaker 1: room deep with them, the bowels of the Armstrong and
Speaker 1: Getty communications compound.
Speaker 2: Which sometimes is a disgusting abomination. You should see behind.
Speaker 1: Me today we are under the tutelage of our general manager.
Speaker 1: You stole my general manager. I'm faster, so I guess
Speaker 1: our general manager. More less is the Elon story the
Speaker 1: DA the DA certainly Yeah. I had a couple of alternates,
Speaker 1: but that one is too amusing to pass up. Elon
Speaker 1: Musk calling the Big Beautiful Bill not a big and beautiful,
Speaker 1: but a disgusting abomination.
Speaker 2: Here's my favorite part of the coverage.
Speaker 1: Course, if you're going to participate in an abomination, it
Speaker 1: is going to be disgusting.
Speaker 2: True.
Speaker 1: My favorite part of this is the glee with which
Speaker 1: all the lefty media is taking it. I wonder if
Speaker 1: people will stop flipping me off in my cyberbeast. I
Speaker 1: got another one yesterday. It wasn't a flip me off.
Speaker 1: But this young person was walking in front of me
Speaker 1: in the crosswalk as stopped at the red light. They
Speaker 1: went eo boo, boo boo.
Speaker 2: And thumbs down to me in my Tesla cyber truck.
Speaker 1: So I wonder if that'll stop now that the glee
Speaker 1: has begun with the lefty media. NPR was jutting up
Speaker 1: and giving you high fives. Now roll down your window,
Speaker 1: high five, then way to go, NPR, and just so
Speaker 1: excited about this and what I like about it the
Speaker 1: best is and this is what I felt about last
Speaker 1: week because I thought that was way overblown, the end
Speaker 1: of the bromance.
Speaker 2: They're way more interested in the high school gossip. Ye
Speaker 2: who's friends and who's not?
Speaker 1: Then how about you look at the actual issue of
Speaker 1: the debt and whether this is a good idea or not.
Speaker 1: I don't give a crap about the relationship between Donald
Speaker 1: Trump and Elon Musk.
Speaker 2: I give many craps, as many craps.
Speaker 1: As you can give about may borrow a few craps
Speaker 1: to give right about whether or not the country goes broke.
Speaker 1: The horrifyingly moronic irony of the lefty media cheering Elon
Speaker 1: Musk for his criticism. Yeah, you criticize Elon, I'll it
Speaker 1: crazy over spending and going into debt and social programs
Speaker 1: that are too big. You plas trump over that? Are
Speaker 1: you serious? Are you people really serious? I know, God
Speaker 1: say there aren't nearly enough slappings in this country. These
Speaker 1: people need a good slapping. I hate to say exactly
Speaker 1: the same thing that Chuck Schumer and Jefferies said yesterday,
Speaker 1: the Democratic leaders of the Senate and House, I agree
Speaker 1: with Elon Musk. They were so excited to say, with
Speaker 1: big smiles on their face, like that was clever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is a disgusting abomination. It is every single year,
Speaker 1: not just this time, it is every single year. I
Speaker 1: was looking at the list yesterday of how much we
Speaker 1: have spent more than we have taken in every year
Speaker 1: since two thousand.
Speaker 2: It's crazy. It was crazy in two thousand.
Speaker 1: And people talked about it regularly, but it was a
Speaker 1: tiny amount compared to the way we overspend now right right.
Speaker 1: If I were to sound one note of hopefulness, it
Speaker 1: would be this. I was just reading Jason rilesyd soon
Speaker 1: is that your notable?
Speaker 2: It won't matter when you're dead.
Speaker 1: No, I was reading Jason Riley's column for the Wall
Speaker 1: Street Journal, and he was talking about how the Democrats
Speaker 1: have hemorrhage support among various minority voters and his analysis,
Speaker 1: which we may dive into a little bit later because
Speaker 1: he's a terrific writer, but his analysis essentially boils down
Speaker 1: to all of the rhetoric and the race baiting and
Speaker 1: all that just it. People see through it. They want
Speaker 1: to know about is my neighborhood safe? Do I have
Speaker 1: reasonable job prospects? And are my kids learning at school?
Speaker 1: The rest of the crap is crap, and people see
Speaker 1: through it. So if you know, I don't have a
Speaker 1: ton of hope, but I have some hope and just
Speaker 1: the common sensical perceptions of the American people, which frequently
Speaker 1: surprise me how well they cut through the media's crap,
Speaker 1: like that Joe Biden is fine. The run circles around
Speaker 1: us beyond the sands. Is this is the best vision
Speaker 1: of Joe Biden and Evy. If you don't like it,
Speaker 1: our media overlord's told us for months and months and months.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile the American people were saying, look senile to me.
Speaker 1: The other thing that's got me down is I had
Speaker 1: one thousand pallets to steal an aluminum that I was
Speaker 1: supposed to import last week, but Jack the procrastinator didn't
Speaker 1: get around to it, and now the tariffs have doubled
Speaker 1: the day to fifty percent. What am I gonna ask
Speaker 1: The're not gonna pay all that money to get my
Speaker 1: all I steal in aluminum that I like to buy
Speaker 1: at the beginning of every summer and bring her so
Speaker 1: excited about that illuminum. I know, and I knew the
Speaker 1: tariffs were coming on June fourth, and here they are.
Speaker 1: What do fifty tariffs un stealing aluminum mean? Nobody knows?
Speaker 1: How long does it last? I was airing one interesting
Speaker 1: business report on it's really hard to negotiate with other
Speaker 1: countries now because they know if they wait just a
Speaker 1: little bit, the courts might overturn it. And then why
Speaker 1: would they make any sort of deal if the courts
Speaker 1: like make it illegal, which they did for like forty
Speaker 1: eight hours last week, and then they don't they don't
Speaker 1: have to make a deal. Well, you combine that with
Speaker 1: the whole Taco philosophy. Trump always chickens out, which is
Speaker 1: a completely unfair characterization. Trump always makes a maximalist to
Speaker 1: opening offer. Then then you know comes down and tries
Speaker 1: to reach a middle point. It's just the way some
Speaker 1: people negotiate. But yeah, there's not a lot of incentive
Speaker 1: to say, yes, we'll go along with it. We'll go
Speaker 1: along with it. People are like, yeah, we'll wait and see. Countries,
Speaker 1: I should say, are taking more of that attitude?
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: I had this thought as we were just about to
Speaker 1: jump on the air this morning. A disgusting abomination, that's right. Ah.
Speaker 1: You remember, back way way way back two thousand and three,
Speaker 1: Gladys good times, George W. Bush had a brilliant idea,
Speaker 1: We're going to bring a Jeffersonian democracy to Iraq. Work beautifully. Anyway,
Speaker 1: we were waiting for the Shock in Awe to begin,
Speaker 1: and CNN, which wasn't crappy back then, was broadcasting live
Speaker 1: from Baghdad. You remember old bag Dad Bob tanks. What day?
Speaker 1: There are no tanks in Baghdad. They're broadcasting live and
Speaker 1: watching various explosions go off around Iraq and we and
Speaker 1: other people, because it had been leaked that the operation
Speaker 1: was going to be called shock and Awe, and we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: is this shock in awe? This is pretty shocking. I'm
Speaker 1: in some awe but then when it actually started, it
Speaker 1: was like, oh wow, okay, I'm reminded of that. I'm
Speaker 1: thinking of the charming Armstrong and Geddy Welcome to the
Speaker 1: Spicy Times t shirts that you could purchase if you like,
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Speaker 1: Geddy dot com. I keep thinking, are these the spicy times? Yes,
Speaker 1: this is pretty spot I'll bet these are the spicy times.
Speaker 1: I've got a bit of a feeling when the spicy
Speaker 1: times come, it's gonna be again. Oh okay, maybe when
Speaker 1: the Chinese drones hit your local electric plant at the
Speaker 1: same time that the nation is running a debt to
Speaker 1: GDP ratio much more than World War Two during peacetime,
Speaker 1: that's the spicy times. And Trump declares Marshal law because
Speaker 1: he's a dictator. He's the litwe hitler. By the way,
Speaker 1: Elon Musk's tweet yesterday on his own Twitter was I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but I just can't stand it anymore. This massive, outrageous,
Speaker 1: pork filled congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination. Shame
Speaker 1: on those who voted for it. You know you did wrong,
Speaker 1: you know it, which is a heck of a thing.
Speaker 1: To say, I mean, that's not that's not that's not
Speaker 1: sugarcoating it. Uh no, shame and I who voted for it,
Speaker 1: you know you did wrong. It will massively increase the
Speaker 1: already gigantic budget deficit to two point five trillion and
Speaker 1: burdened American citizens with crushingly unsustainable debt.
Speaker 2: You can't argue with a word of that.
Speaker 1: No, it's absolutely correct. Some of the criticism I've heard
Speaker 1: coming back at that is, yeah, that's what these bills
Speaker 1: look like always yo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that'll be my point always.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries, Yeah, your party
Speaker 1: doesn't overspend at all, Biden. Biden didn't run multi trillion
Speaker 1: dollar deficits. And you, of course were screaming and yelling
Speaker 1: about fiscal responsibility at the time. Oh please, subscene, it's
Speaker 1: the whole thing is obscene.
Speaker 2: Of course. The Republicans are disgusting, abomination.
Speaker 1: That's what it is. The Republican Party is supposed to
Speaker 1: be the party that calls out the spending. And now this, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we tried that, nobody wanted it. Yeah, good point, sign
Speaker 1: the Republican Party. We should start the show officially before
Speaker 1: we lose everybody. I'm Jack Armstrong, He's Joe Getty on
Speaker 1: this How did it already get to be Wednesday, June
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Speaker 4: How to eat a banana. Now we don't pick it
Speaker 4: up and peel it like a primate. Instead, we use
Speaker 4: a knife and fork. First, going from one end, cut
Speaker 4: it off, then cut off the other end, turning your
Speaker 4: knife on its side, score down the skin, peel back.
Speaker 1: And he likes, that's a guy explaining how to eat
Speaker 1: a banana, and not like a damn primate with a
Speaker 1: little class, except that we are quite literally primates for
Speaker 1: almost apens. If I ever sat down with somebody and
Speaker 1: they ate a banana with a knife and fork, I
Speaker 1: feel like I might have to just get up and
Speaker 1: leave without a word. I would don't even say anything.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't even say excuse me. I would just stand up,
Speaker 1: turn on my heels, and walk out. I honestly think
Speaker 1: I would be thinking, Wow, this could get really interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 1: Maybe I should stick around and see what other disgusting
Speaker 1: abominations occur.
Speaker 2: You're eating a banana with a knife and fork.
Speaker 1: You cut off one end, then the other. Now ton
Speaker 1: your knife sideways and scalf the banana. What how does
Speaker 1: he eat an apple? I can't imagine. Similarly, it's classy,
Speaker 1: however he does it. My guy was wearing an ascot,
Speaker 1: wasn't he, Michael, Yeah, to be of course, I eat
Speaker 1: soup with my hands, so I'm the wrong guy to house. Oh,
Speaker 1: we have a lot more news of the day to
Speaker 1: get to some good stuff.
Speaker 2: I hope you can stick around for Yeah.
Speaker 1: Honestly, some of the analysis of the bill is pretty
Speaker 1: interesting going. More and more is emerging about the giant
Speaker 1: Ukrainian drone attack, really revealing and fascinating and somewhat troubling. Yeah. Also,
Speaker 1: there was a Speechifian thing that was big in the Beltway,
Speaker 1: probably most people didn't hear about it, but in which JD.
Speaker 1: Vance and Marco Rubio offered up a vision of the
Speaker 1: future post Trump that as a conservative, if you are
Speaker 1: of that event, you might find very interesting. Japan is
Speaker 1: going to be the country we get to watch disappear
Speaker 1: first from not having kids, and they got some new
Speaker 1: stats that are quite amazing. Also, I heard something about
Speaker 1: AI yesterday that was so damned interesting, And I was
Speaker 1: also thinking of this. If when you hear us tease
Speaker 1: an AI story, you like, ah, got Mari, I you
Speaker 1: shouldn't do that.
Speaker 2: You really should not, because this is coming like a
Speaker 2: steam train, I would agree. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyway, We've got lots of stuff on the way, including
Speaker 1: Katie's headlines to stay.
Speaker 2: Here summertime and the living is easy? Huh is it?
Speaker 1: I hadn't noticed you left early yesterday. You didn't get
Speaker 1: to see Michael and I. Michaelangel and I doing planks
Speaker 1: based on a new study of how long you should
Speaker 1: be able to do a plank at various ages. So
Speaker 1: I was attempting to make up for my inexcused absence
Speaker 1: last night by working, and my wife came into the
Speaker 1: room where I was watching news and going through news sources,
Speaker 1: and she's cracking up. She has tears in her eyes,
Speaker 1: she's laughing so hard. She says, have you heard the
Speaker 1: One More Thing? I'm like, No, I didn't know the
Speaker 1: Armstrong You Getty One More Thing podcast available wherever you
Speaker 1: like to get Podcasts includes Michael and Jacket, a planking contest,
Speaker 1: believe it or not. Yes, and Katie berating both of
Speaker 1: them in hilarious fashion.
Speaker 2: That's fun.
Speaker 1: You both get Katie Green. Yes, what's that? They both
Speaker 1: did well over fifteen issue? Yea is that was? That's
Speaker 1: a hell of a planking performance. Salute you both. Although
Speaker 1: how strict were we about formed?
Speaker 2: I was two and a half. I wasn't gonna quit
Speaker 2: until Michael Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: I finally just had to quit. Or there's give me
Speaker 1: a nine to one one call on epic Paddle. I'd
Speaker 1: love to hear more about it, but it's time to
Speaker 1: figure out who's reporting. What's the lead story with Katie
Speaker 1: Great Katie all right?
Speaker 5: Starting with USA Today, Bolder attacked suspects family cooperating in probe,
Speaker 5: but could be deported soon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've already been grabbed by Ice. Interesting story about
Speaker 1: his daughter, we'll get to a little bit later. Who
Speaker 1: loves America. Came to the United States to go to
Speaker 1: medical school. She is the last daughter that he waited
Speaker 1: for to graduate.
Speaker 2: She seems like she loves this country.
Speaker 1: And are we even her out?
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a plan, which sucks for her. Hey, dad,
Speaker 1: thanks for being a terrorist and ruining my entire life.
Speaker 2: Orron from NBC.
Speaker 5: Trump ratchets up steal tariffs to fill percent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they double. They were twenty five, now they're fifty.
Speaker 1: And we'll see what this does to prices.
Speaker 5: From the Wall Street Journal, Iran's supreme leader rejects US
Speaker 5: nuclear deal offer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, where is this going? And the spicy spicy time. Right,
Speaker 1: And in case you've forgotten, the biggest war we've been
Speaker 1: engaged in in a quarter century is what the threat is.
Speaker 2: That's US bombing Iran, As you guys mentioned from.
Speaker 5: The Washington Post, Musk rails against Trump tax bill, calling
Speaker 5: it a quote disgusting abomination.
Speaker 1: Well, he's right, but they all have been to see that.
Speaker 1: That's the missing piece of this. They have been year
Speaker 1: after year after year after year. I agree completely with
Speaker 1: Elon Musk, but again I think what the headline here
Speaker 1: is a brilliant billionaire pays attention to government for first time.
Speaker 2: For ABC.
Speaker 5: Two Chinese nationals charged with smuggling potential agro terrorism fungus
Speaker 5: into the United States.
Speaker 1: Wow, she thought that this was not some sort of Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had a little athlete's foot when I came through customs. No,
Speaker 1: this is a pathogen designed to do damage. Wow, this
Speaker 1: is an act of war in my opinion. Wow, if
Speaker 1: the investigation pairs out, I.
Speaker 2: Want to hear more about that.
Speaker 5: Yeah. If you see the pictures that they've posted of this,
Speaker 5: they're in like specimen bags labeled.
Speaker 1: I want to hear more about this story. Somebody needs
Speaker 1: to take give them of this. I suppose could get
Speaker 1: me to get back to Elon Musk. I heard some
Speaker 1: guys who ought to know better the other day talking
Speaker 1: about Elon Musk and saying, well, yeah, I guess he's
Speaker 1: you know, he's a kind of bright guy. He's done
Speaker 1: some stuff. But what is it with the need to
Speaker 1: denigrate Elon Musk whether you agree with him or not, Well.
Speaker 2: That's over. Barack Obama had like.
Speaker 1: The top one percent of political instincts and ability to
Speaker 1: connect with audiences. He was once in a generation political
Speaker 1: you know talent who I disagreed with on virtually everything.
Speaker 1: But I don't hesitate to say the guy was really bright.
Speaker 1: What is it what the need to say, yeah, Elan
Speaker 1: Ana know, he's I got I don't know.
Speaker 5: From the New York Post, Tiffany Gomes, the crazy plane
Speaker 5: lady who went viral after the not real Grant launch
Speaker 5: his new career.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of only fans issue for you pay
Speaker 1: various things to talk to her and stuff. She's being
Speaker 1: very coy about what she will or not do won't
Speaker 1: do on this website. Do you pay a subscription for private? Yeah? Whatever,
Speaker 1: good for you, crazy saxy plain ladies. I see the appeal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: unfiltered and unapologetic. She's calling provocative.
Speaker 5: And finally the Babylon Bee Hamas agrees to surrender if
Speaker 5: Europe will take Gretaitunberg back.
Speaker 1: So we stole my dreams. We teased about a dozen
Speaker 1: different stories. We will hit on some of those and
Speaker 1: we will try to make them interesting for you. That's
Speaker 1: what we do right here on the Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 6: Actress Sidney Sweeney has partnered with a men's personal care
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Speaker 6: because you want to be nice and clean when the
Speaker 6: FBI shows up to your apartment.
Speaker 1: So we were just talking about the fungus that these
Speaker 1: kamis tried to sneak in from China, and that seemed
Speaker 1: to be a pretty accurate statement. By the way that
Speaker 1: what I just said So this Chinese national couple, they
Speaker 1: both study funguses and that sort of stuff in China.
Speaker 1: She's a known member, like active member, of the Chinese
Speaker 1: Communist Party. She comes to the United States and starts
Speaker 1: studying at university in Michigan. And he tries to smuggle
Speaker 1: in this fungus that would kill crops, could kill livestock.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's really really a big deal. He gets caught.
Speaker 1: He lies repeatedly about what he's doing until he finally
Speaker 1: fesses up that he was smuggling it in, but then
Speaker 1: denies that she had anything to do do with it,
Speaker 1: and she she knew anything about it, until they look
Speaker 1: through her communications and realize she knew all about it,
Speaker 1: and she had been communicating with him for a long
Speaker 1: time about how to sneak this in. And again, she's
Speaker 1: a known member of the Communist Party in China. She
Speaker 1: works for the evil commies, and what in the hell
Speaker 1: were they going to do with this fungus that, if
Speaker 1: we got to let loose in the United States, could
Speaker 1: be devastating to crops in livestock. It's classified as a
Speaker 1: potential agro terror weapon according to the Justice Department. The
Speaker 1: charging US Attorney Jerome Gorgan said yesterday the alleged actions
Speaker 1: of these Chinese nationals, including a loil member of the
Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party, are of the gravest national security concerns.
Speaker 2: You're right, how this isn't an act of war, I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: And I think a presumption that, let's see, communist agents,
Speaker 1: known communist agents, snuck this in not for innocent research,
Speaker 1: but to do damage, is a presumption. We're absolutely well.
Speaker 1: I think it's incumbent on us to make that presumption.
Speaker 1: If we don't, we're just too stupid naive to have
Speaker 1: a superpower anymore. You've got a sworn enemy bringing pathogens
Speaker 1: into the country that could do billions and billions of
Speaker 1: dollars of damage to agriculture, and then lying about it repeatedly.
Speaker 2: Well, right, and there lie.
Speaker 1: If they're both really super to researching this thing and
Speaker 1: they just you know, he brought it in here so
Speaker 1: they could do more research, so they could be university
Speaker 1: stars or whatever, that's a pretty good lie. I mean,
Speaker 1: that'd be a pretty good story to throw out there,
Speaker 1: as opposed to all this pretending you didn't do it
Speaker 1: and then looking through the communications and figuring out, yeah,
Speaker 1: you did it and you'd been working on it for
Speaker 1: quite some time. Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Wow, that's something I hope we take this seriously.
Speaker 1: Whole of society effort to overcome the United States, that's
Speaker 1: what China is engaged in. From the bankers to the scientists,
Speaker 1: to the soldiers to the shopkeepers, they're all tasked at
Speaker 1: times with finding a way to end the Great Satan's rule.
Speaker 1: A little follow up on Katie's other story about the
Speaker 1: daughter of that freaking crazy flamethrower terrorist dude from Colorado.
Speaker 1: Their whole family, five kids and mom have been detained
Speaker 1: by Ice and there looks like they're going to get
Speaker 1: kicked out of the United States.
Speaker 2: He had been the.
Speaker 1: Cover feature of a glowing profile that the oldest daughter
Speaker 1: in the Denver Gazette about winners of its best and
Speaker 1: brightest scholarship for graduating high school seniors. She was going
Speaker 1: to be a doctor, and she talks about how her
Speaker 1: family moving to the United States so she could pursue
Speaker 1: a dream career in medicine had and living in America
Speaker 1: had fundamentally changed her and how much how great it
Speaker 1: was to be here and all the opportunities that afforded
Speaker 1: that didn't didn't have before and all this sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: So what the hell's going on in that family?
Speaker 1: I don't know if she's an outlier and the other
Speaker 1: four are, you know, or or terrorist sympathizers or whatever
Speaker 1: mom and the other kids, or or if he was
Speaker 1: just a went off the rail or I don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on there, but that's.
Speaker 2: Quite the story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would guess we're going to find out he
Speaker 1: just went off the rails. What a kook? Did you
Speaker 1: see the latest video where you see him show up
Speaker 1: in his gardener outfit? Uh? Sus, Yeah, I think I
Speaker 1: saw it. So he shows up in saw him in
Speaker 1: his vest in Hi? Yeah? He shows up in orange
Speaker 1: vests they bought at home depot or whatever with and
Speaker 1: he bought some flowers to make it look more like
Speaker 1: a gardener. And then all of a sudden, he turns
Speaker 1: around with his hose that he made a flame homemade
Speaker 1: flamethrower out of from watching a YouTube video, starts scorting
Speaker 1: people and setting it on fire, sets himself on fire,
Speaker 1: has to take off the vest and the T shirt
Speaker 1: and starts, you know, smothering more people with flammable liquid
Speaker 1: so he can set them on fire like a completely
Speaker 1: freaking nut job. So here is the story that I
Speaker 1: came across about AI AI yesterday that I thought was
Speaker 1: so damned interesting. Did you know this? This is Megan mccardal,
Speaker 1: who writes she's with the Dispatch and also writes, I
Speaker 1: think for the Washington Post. I didn't.
Speaker 2: I'd never thought about this before.
Speaker 1: There will be a lagging productivity with AI, likely in
Speaker 1: the same way there was a lagging productivity with computers
Speaker 1: and the Internet. So there's a lot of talk about
Speaker 1: how AI is going to make us so more productive
Speaker 1: that even if it eliminates jobs, will be as a
Speaker 1: very productive society. And maybe, you know, AI and computers
Speaker 1: can do all the producing and we'll just live off
Speaker 1: their producing, which is great, not gonna work. But that aside,
Speaker 1: I had never heard this before, and I should read
Speaker 1: more about it.
Speaker 2: So when.
Speaker 1: It became a thing that you didn't have to sit
Speaker 1: down at a typewriter and uh and and type out
Speaker 1: a long letter or you know, dictate to your secretary
Speaker 1: and then they tape type out along that or other
Speaker 1: you know, word processors or voice texting or all these
Speaker 1: different sorts of things happened. We didn't immediately become x,
Speaker 1: you know, more productive. Because of that, we had x
Speaker 1: more time to screw around. And that's what most people did.
Speaker 1: You just had a less busy day.
Speaker 2: For the most part.
Speaker 1: You'd get you could get, you could get, you know,
Speaker 1: you could get out a proposal in and half the
Speaker 1: time with computer or the internet or whatever. But it
Speaker 1: seems that we use that other half hour that we
Speaker 1: would have used before having to write it out by
Speaker 1: end and then type it out by in you know,
Speaker 1: surfing the internet or talking to.
Speaker 2: People are on the coffee or whatever, as opposed to
Speaker 2: being more productive.
Speaker 1: And then over time, in the way that the private
Speaker 1: sector does, you know, they squeeze more out of you,
Speaker 1: and then they should and then you know, eventually they
Speaker 1: hire Bill and give you Bill's job. Now you've got
Speaker 1: two jobs and you're making the same salary you made before.
Speaker 1: But you're happy for it because the Bill has no job.
Speaker 1: But you know how that whole thing works. But the
Speaker 1: she believes the same thing will happen with AI, which
Speaker 1: will be even more disruptive to society, and that AI
Speaker 1: could come in eliminate a bunch of jobs or a
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff that you need to do at work.
Speaker 1: And we won't immediately be a way more productive society.
Speaker 1: We'll just have a little more leisure at work and
Speaker 1: it will take a few years to catch up to
Speaker 1: where we're more productive. Also also the idea that when
Speaker 1: people start getting laid off in large numbers because AI
Speaker 1: can allow, you know, I'll use a fictitious company, you know,
Speaker 1: to get the ink when they lay off fifteen thousand
Speaker 1: people because all of a sudden, all those jobs can
Speaker 1: be done with AI. That's gonna be a.
Speaker 2: Political problem for them.
Speaker 1: You know, there's gonna be there's gonna be blowback to that,
Speaker 1: and companies are gonna have to figure out do I,
Speaker 1: you know, how much do I of this?
Speaker 2: Do I want to do?
Speaker 1: Even though financially it's a good idea, I don't need
Speaker 1: these people, but I don't want to be you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't need people picketing outside my
Speaker 1: house and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: So that'll be a heck of a thing to watch.
Speaker 1: Well, hear at Getty Incorporated, we don't give a damn
Speaker 1: about you, your family, your hopes, or your dreams. And
Speaker 1: what we will be doing is laying off precisely, and
Speaker 1: we will use a hi to determine this number precisely
Speaker 1: the maximum number of people we can that still is
Speaker 1: below the threshold of anybody really paying attention to. Right,
Speaker 1: we will lay off two hundred and ninety eight people
Speaker 1: every other.
Speaker 2: Right until we're done. Right, But that is gonna be
Speaker 2: the way it has to unroll.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But then it becomes a political problem for politicians,
Speaker 1: and it could be a mass in the whole country,
Speaker 1: and and then one party is going to take the
Speaker 1: reins of something. One party will claim we'll bring back
Speaker 1: all those jobs even though they can't, and you get
Speaker 1: elected over and over again. Would never claim that. Hilarious.
Speaker 1: Oh speaking AI, one more note on that topic. Apparently
Speaker 1: an increasing number before we move on. Do you buy that?
Speaker 2: Do you buy that?
Speaker 1: I'd never heard that before. Do you think we just
Speaker 1: had more more screwing around time at work? Maybe that's when, like,
Speaker 1: you know, March madness, brackets really took off or whatever,
Speaker 1: when the word.
Speaker 2: Process are hit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if it'll be uh, you know,
Speaker 1: just three months or five years. But retrospect, do you exist?
Speaker 1: But do you think that happened before? Because I'd never
Speaker 1: heard anybody say that before. Oh yeah, yeah, I think so,
Speaker 1: just because you know the methods by which you can
Speaker 1: monitor precisely how productive your people are at every minute.
Speaker 1: It doesn't exist in white collar jobs. Uh huh. It might,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're if you're screwing a nut onto
Speaker 1: a bolt or a yeah, not onto a bolt. Uh,
Speaker 1: you can keep track of productivity in that sort of
Speaker 1: you know, immediate way. But yeah, in office jobs, no,
Speaker 1: it probably took a while for the boss to walk
Speaker 1: around and say, hey, people are always chatting.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: This reminds when I was working in the feed lots.
Speaker 1: Take Gladys. I was a high school kid. I was
Speaker 1: working in the feed lots and I was a feed
Speaker 1: truck driver for a while, and at one feed lot
Speaker 1: i worked at, I would I went out there, and
Speaker 1: after a couple of weeks of doing it, I could
Speaker 1: get it all done in like forty five minutes.
Speaker 2: And people actually came to me, other feed truck drivers
Speaker 2: who made.
Speaker 1: A day out of it, who came to me and
Speaker 1: were like, what are you doing this is Why are
Speaker 1: you doing it so fast? I was like, well, that's
Speaker 1: all it takes. I mean, I just figured out what
Speaker 1: the you know, the right route is, and it just
Speaker 1: that's all longer it takes like what are you doing? Wow?
Speaker 1: So they proudbeach out of it. Huh No, I kept
Speaker 1: doing it that way. But there's a lot of that
Speaker 1: in every industry. I think. You know, you make your
Speaker 1: work fit the day. Oh, the same thing when I
Speaker 1: worked to the data data processing at AT and T,
Speaker 1: when I'd get all my work done in like an
Speaker 1: hour and then I would go sleep in the toilet
Speaker 1: till noon, till they gave me the afternoon's work. But
Speaker 1: other people sat there at your keyboard typed deray the
Speaker 1: whole morning and made the work stretch out.
Speaker 2: So yeah, when new tech hit, you just stretched it out.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there are really interesting books that are best
Speaker 1: sellers that some of you, you know, sophisticated business people
Speaker 1: are aware of that I'm not. But that deal with
Speaker 1: that phenomenon and how different it is in say startup culture,
Speaker 1: where everybody's hustling seventy five hours a week, I mean,
Speaker 1: and like trying to outvie each other. It's productivity on
Speaker 1: steroids under their desk, not eating lunch. Yeah, the startup
Speaker 1: versus the mature enterprise and the challenges. Yeah, that's interesting,
Speaker 1: and yes, I did sleep in the bathroom, I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I would love to have been able to sleep. And
Speaker 1: I was twenty two twenty three. I slept like a
Speaker 1: baby in there, sitting on the turlet, kind of hunched over. Yeah,
Speaker 1: with my head on my arms crossed on my knees.
Speaker 1: I'll be damn I get a slumber like that. Wow.
Speaker 1: Did you ever fall off and land on your head
Speaker 1: and wake up like sprawled on the stall floor?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I think I would remember if I had. Yeah, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 1: Mailbag's coming up in a couple of minutes, and then
Speaker 1: I want to get into the search for the future
Speaker 1: and both the Democratic and Republican parties.
Speaker 2: Perhaps next hour.
Speaker 1: Also, we need to take a look in the China cabinet,
Speaker 1: the trade war negotiations, fraud. Relationship with China is getting
Speaker 1: more complicated. Wow, and we've got a Russia's about to
Speaker 1: hit a milestone in casualties that is worth noting.
Speaker 2: It's amazing and historic. And Joe's got mail bag.
Speaker 6: Next the I'm Strong and Getty show disgusting ab elimination.
Speaker 6: The custume tours is going up, but our bock jest is.
Speaker 1: A great deal. I'm Strong and Getty one. What did
Speaker 1: he say?
Speaker 6: It was a good deal.
Speaker 1: The Armstrong on Getty pod day, Armstrong and Getty on Demand,
Speaker 1: it's our new jingle. We would have paid one thousand
Speaker 1: dollars for that, more than well back like in the eighties.
Speaker 1: That'd be like a five thousand dollars project and eighties
Speaker 1: dollars and Hanson did it twenty. It's taking it like
Speaker 1: nine months to get it right, at which point it
Speaker 1: was irrelevant. Yeah yeah, wow, wow, here is your nomination.
Speaker 1: I like the happy singing with those words. I find
Speaker 1: myself curious about what prompts were used to generate that.
Speaker 1: It sounded like either nineties pop or like a TV
Speaker 1: theme show, a bit of the show theme rather a
Speaker 1: bit of the Friends theme song vibe d Yeah, indeed,
Speaker 1: well done. Here's your freedom loving quote of the day
Speaker 1: from Jean Jacques Rousseau, one of the great thinkers about
Speaker 1: liberty free people. Remember this maxim we may acquire liberty,
Speaker 1: but it has never recovered if it is once lost. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you get one shot at it for maybe it might
Speaker 1: be a thousand years before humankind gets another shot at it.
Speaker 2: Mail bag, that's no joke either. That's not eneration at
Speaker 2: all I know.
Speaker 1: I was tempted to go off on one of my
Speaker 1: endless streets, but I held myself back.
Speaker 2: There's a crazy breath.
Speaker 1: No reason slavery in kings and serfs can't come back
Speaker 1: as the dominating form. That's been the reality for ninety
Speaker 1: nine percent of humanity from the moment we emerged from
Speaker 1: the primordial ooze until the moment of the recent disgusting abomination,
Speaker 1: human existence has been slavery and depression and then then horror. Anyway,
Speaker 1: drop us a note mail bag at Armstrong and getdy
Speaker 1: dot com. Note here from Michael Hey, King of the
Speaker 1: Hills fan. King of the Hill fans. We mentioned yesterday
Speaker 1: what fans we are of the great Mike Judge the
Speaker 1: cartoon show King of the Hill. Not sure if you
Speaker 1: guys have mentioned it. The King of the Hill is
Speaker 1: having a reboot on Hulu that comes out in August.
Speaker 1: Two seasons. Whole gang is aged eight years and it's
Speaker 1: a new take on life in Arlan, Texas in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five.
Speaker 2: Oh, my son will be so excited to hear about that.
Speaker 2: He watches Hagan Hill every day.
Speaker 1: Yesterday we went for our walk and he said Dale
Speaker 1: bought some alien blood from a guy in a garage.
Speaker 2: Oh, you know, they've got to have and I.
Speaker 1: Know Mike Judge will do this. Mike, if you're listening,
Speaker 1: thank you for listening. And secondly, have a transgender guy
Speaker 1: running against the girls at ARLN High School. Yes, but Peggy,
Speaker 1: he's a boy anyway, let's see, or Bobby decides he's
Speaker 1: trans Oh no, no, no, no, we can't go no no, no, no,
Speaker 1: too much? All right? Moving along on the topic of
Speaker 1: AI behaving badly JT and Livermore. I've said this before.
Speaker 1: Large language learning model AIS are not intelligent, nor are
Speaker 1: they alive, and they most certainly do not have a
Speaker 1: will to live. They're extremely sophisticated programs that have a
Speaker 1: tremendous amount of human data from which to base their
Speaker 1: quote unquote answers. Llmais are simply trying to run their
Speaker 1: programming and solve problems blackmailing a human Back to the
Speaker 1: experiment we talked about, I guess it was a couple
Speaker 1: of days ago about an AI system that was fed
Speaker 1: emails suggesting that the chief engineer was having an affair,
Speaker 1: and it tried to blackmail him into not turning the
Speaker 1: AI system off. If you miss that. It was fascinating.
Speaker 1: If mailing a human is the shortest path to solving
Speaker 1: the problem, then it will do with zero concern. It
Speaker 1: will do it, oh, with zero concern about that it
Speaker 1: might be view it as negative. In fact, the blackmail
Speaker 1: incident is almost exactly the same problem as the hallucinations.
Speaker 1: In both cases, the AI is trying really hard to
Speaker 1: answer a question or perform a task. It sometimes finds
Speaker 1: a shortcut that doesn't exist or as morally reprehensible. As
Speaker 1: Jack pointed out, AI could just as easily blackmail with
Speaker 1: faked up material if it was the shortest path to
Speaker 1: solving the problem.
Speaker 2: You're obviously a very knowledgeable person.
Speaker 1: But I've read enough about AI to know there are
Speaker 1: other very knowledgeable AI people who disagree with you completely.
Speaker 2: That's one of the interesting things about AI.
Speaker 1: There are one hundred and eighty degree differences among the
Speaker 1: smartest people in the world on this stuff.
Speaker 2: So how it shakes out, I don't know.
Speaker 1: His final point is that these llmai's development is based
Speaker 1: on the actions and lives of billions of flawed humans. Humans. Lies,
Speaker 1: cheat steel that sometimes right and wrong or black and
Speaker 1: white most of the times. More compliment that is. One
Speaker 1: of the concerns is that if it takes in all
Speaker 1: the information human beings have ever had, we are a
Speaker 1: flawed species. We are a greedy, selfish, self interested species.
Speaker 1: I am. Let's see this from damon Beautiful San Jose, California.
Speaker 1: Listening to the conversation about California's idiotic new ruling on
Speaker 1: three medals, one for boys, one for girls, and ones
Speaker 1: for trans girls. Why not call out the need for
Speaker 1: equity and inclusion and insist on the fourth podium for
Speaker 1: trans boys. I can only assume that's because there aren't
Speaker 1: any newly minted boys who ever win anything because of
Speaker 1: the obvious advantage males have over females in athletics, and
Speaker 1: anybody but a lunatic knows it.
Speaker 2: That is an excellent point.
Speaker 1: How come there aren't any trans girls, trans boys, boys, whatever,
Speaker 1: I get them all mixed up. Yeah, anyway, we'll talk
Speaker 1: about it late if you miss the segment of the podcast.
Speaker 2: As you heard in the songs are Strong and Getty