WEBVTT - You May Borrow A Few Craps To Give

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the

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<v Speaker 1>George Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Jette and he.

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<v Speaker 3>Arms a disgusting abomination, the Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 1>I could be a new liner from a dimly lit

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<v Speaker 1>room deep with them, the bowels of the Armstrong and

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<v Speaker 1>Getty communications compound.

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<v Speaker 2>Which sometimes is a disgusting abomination. You should see behind.

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<v Speaker 1>Me today we are under the tutelage of our general manager.

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<v Speaker 1>You stole my general manager. I'm faster, so I guess

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<v Speaker 1>our general manager. More less is the Elon story the

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<v Speaker 1>DA the DA certainly Yeah. I had a couple of alternates,

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<v Speaker 1>but that one is too amusing to pass up. Elon

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<v Speaker 1>Musk calling the Big Beautiful Bill not a big and beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>but a disgusting abomination.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's my favorite part of the coverage.

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<v Speaker 1>Course, if you're going to participate in an abomination, it

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be disgusting.

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<v Speaker 2>True.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite part of this is the glee with which

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<v Speaker 1>all the lefty media is taking it. I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>people will stop flipping me off in my cyberbeast. I

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<v Speaker 1>got another one yesterday. It wasn't a flip me off.

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<v Speaker 1>But this young person was walking in front of me

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<v Speaker 1>in the crosswalk as stopped at the red light. They

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<v Speaker 1>went eo boo, boo boo.

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<v Speaker 2>And thumbs down to me in my Tesla cyber truck.

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<v Speaker 1>So I wonder if that'll stop now that the glee

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<v Speaker 1>has begun with the lefty media. NPR was jutting up

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<v Speaker 1>and giving you high fives. Now roll down your window,

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<v Speaker 1>high five, then way to go, NPR, and just so

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<v Speaker 1>excited about this and what I like about it the

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<v Speaker 1>best is and this is what I felt about last

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<v Speaker 1>week because I thought that was way overblown, the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the bromance.

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<v Speaker 2>They're way more interested in the high school gossip. Ye

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<v Speaker 2>who's friends and who's not?

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<v Speaker 1>Then how about you look at the actual issue of

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<v Speaker 1>the debt and whether this is a good idea or not.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't give a crap about the relationship between Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump and Elon Musk.

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<v Speaker 2>I give many craps, as many craps.

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<v Speaker 1>As you can give about may borrow a few craps

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<v Speaker 1>to give right about whether or not the country goes broke.

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<v Speaker 1>The horrifyingly moronic irony of the lefty media cheering Elon

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<v Speaker 1>Musk for his criticism. Yeah, you criticize Elon, I'll it

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<v Speaker 1>crazy over spending and going into debt and social programs

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<v Speaker 1>that are too big. You plas trump over that? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you serious? Are you people really serious? I know, God

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<v Speaker 1>say there aren't nearly enough slappings in this country. These

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<v Speaker 1>people need a good slapping. I hate to say exactly

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing that Chuck Schumer and Jefferies said yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic leaders of the Senate and House, I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with Elon Musk. They were so excited to say, with

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<v Speaker 1>big smiles on their face, like that was clever. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a disgusting abomination. It is every single year,

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<v Speaker 1>not just this time, it is every single year. I

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<v Speaker 1>was looking at the list yesterday of how much we

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<v Speaker 1>have spent more than we have taken in every year

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<v Speaker 1>since two thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy. It was crazy in two thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>And people talked about it regularly, but it was a

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<v Speaker 1>tiny amount compared to the way we overspend now right right.

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<v Speaker 1>If I were to sound one note of hopefulness, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be this. I was just reading Jason rilesyd soon

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<v Speaker 1>is that your notable?

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<v Speaker 2>It won't matter when you're dead.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I was reading Jason Riley's column for the Wall

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<v Speaker 1>Street Journal, and he was talking about how the Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>have hemorrhage support among various minority voters and his analysis,

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<v Speaker 1>which we may dive into a little bit later because

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<v Speaker 1>he's a terrific writer, but his analysis essentially boils down

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<v Speaker 1>to all of the rhetoric and the race baiting and

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<v Speaker 1>all that just it. People see through it. They want

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<v Speaker 1>to know about is my neighborhood safe? Do I have

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<v Speaker 1>reasonable job prospects? And are my kids learning at school?

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<v Speaker 1>The rest of the crap is crap, and people see

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<v Speaker 1>through it. So if you know, I don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of hope, but I have some hope and just

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<v Speaker 1>the common sensical perceptions of the American people, which frequently

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<v Speaker 1>surprise me how well they cut through the media's crap,

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<v Speaker 1>like that Joe Biden is fine. The run circles around

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<v Speaker 1>us beyond the sands. Is this is the best vision

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<v Speaker 1>of Joe Biden and Evy. If you don't like it,

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<v Speaker 1>our media overlord's told us for months and months and months.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile the American people were saying, look senile to me.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing that's got me down is I had

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<v Speaker 1>one thousand pallets to steal an aluminum that I was

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to import last week, but Jack the procrastinator didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get around to it, and now the tariffs have doubled

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<v Speaker 1>the day to fifty percent. What am I gonna ask

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<v Speaker 1>The're not gonna pay all that money to get my

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<v Speaker 1>all I steal in aluminum that I like to buy

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning of every summer and bring her so

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<v Speaker 1>excited about that illuminum. I know, and I knew the

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<v Speaker 1>tariffs were coming on June fourth, and here they are.

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<v Speaker 1>What do fifty tariffs un stealing aluminum mean? Nobody knows?

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<v Speaker 1>How long does it last? I was airing one interesting

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<v Speaker 1>business report on it's really hard to negotiate with other

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<v Speaker 1>countries now because they know if they wait just a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, the courts might overturn it. And then why

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<v Speaker 1>would they make any sort of deal if the courts

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<v Speaker 1>like make it illegal, which they did for like forty

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<v Speaker 1>eight hours last week, and then they don't they don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to make a deal. Well, you combine that with

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<v Speaker 1>the whole Taco philosophy. Trump always chickens out, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a completely unfair characterization. Trump always makes a maximalist to

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<v Speaker 1>opening offer. Then then you know comes down and tries

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<v Speaker 1>to reach a middle point. It's just the way some

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<v Speaker 1>people negotiate. But yeah, there's not a lot of incentive

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<v Speaker 1>to say, yes, we'll go along with it. We'll go

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<v Speaker 1>along with it. People are like, yeah, we'll wait and see. Countries,

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<v Speaker 1>I should say, are taking more of that attitude?

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I had this thought as we were just about to

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<v Speaker 1>jump on the air this morning. A disgusting abomination, that's right. Ah.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember, back way way way back two thousand and three,

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<v Speaker 1>Gladys good times, George W. Bush had a brilliant idea,

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to bring a Jeffersonian democracy to Iraq. Work beautifully. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we were waiting for the Shock in Awe to begin,

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<v Speaker 1>and CNN, which wasn't crappy back then, was broadcasting live

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<v Speaker 1>from Baghdad. You remember old bag Dad Bob tanks. What day?

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<v Speaker 1>There are no tanks in Baghdad. They're broadcasting live and

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<v Speaker 1>watching various explosions go off around Iraq and we and

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<v Speaker 1>other people, because it had been leaked that the operation

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be called shock and Awe, and we're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>is this shock in awe? This is pretty shocking. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in some awe but then when it actually started, it

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh wow, okay, I'm reminded of that. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking of the charming Armstrong and Geddy Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>Spicy Times t shirts that you could purchase if you like,

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<v Speaker 1>for a reasonable price, the Armstrong and Getty store, Armstrong

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<v Speaker 1>Geddy dot com. I keep thinking, are these the spicy times? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this is pretty spot I'll bet these are the spicy times.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a bit of a feeling when the spicy

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<v Speaker 1>times come, it's gonna be again. Oh okay, maybe when

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<v Speaker 1>the Chinese drones hit your local electric plant at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time that the nation is running a debt to

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<v Speaker 1>GDP ratio much more than World War Two during peacetime,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the spicy times. And Trump declares Marshal law because

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<v Speaker 1>he's a dictator. He's the litwe hitler. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk's tweet yesterday on his own Twitter was I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just can't stand it anymore. This massive, outrageous,

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<v Speaker 1>pork filled congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination. Shame

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<v Speaker 1>on those who voted for it. You know you did wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it, which is a heck of a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>To say, I mean, that's not that's not that's not

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<v Speaker 1>sugarcoating it. Uh no, shame and I who voted for it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you did wrong. It will massively increase the

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<v Speaker 1>already gigantic budget deficit to two point five trillion and

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<v Speaker 1>burdened American citizens with crushingly unsustainable debt.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't argue with a word of that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's absolutely correct. Some of the criticism I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>coming back at that is, yeah, that's what these bills

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<v Speaker 1>look like always yo.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that'll be my point always.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries, Yeah, your party

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't overspend at all, Biden. Biden didn't run multi trillion

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<v Speaker 1>dollar deficits. And you, of course were screaming and yelling

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<v Speaker 1>about fiscal responsibility at the time. Oh please, subscene, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing is obscene.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course. The Republicans are disgusting, abomination.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it is. The Republican Party is supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be the party that calls out the spending. And now this, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we tried that, nobody wanted it. Yeah, good point, sign

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<v Speaker 1>the Republican Party. We should start the show officially before

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<v Speaker 1>we lose everybody. I'm Jack Armstrong, He's Joe Getty on

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<v Speaker 1>this How did it already get to be Wednesday, June

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<v Speaker 1>fourth year, twenty twenty five or Armstrong and getting We

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<v Speaker 1>approve of this program. Let's begin then officially, acording to

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<v Speaker 1>f SC rules and regulations, the show starts at mark is.

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<v Speaker 4>How to eat a banana. Now we don't pick it

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<v Speaker 4>up and peel it like a primate. Instead, we use

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<v Speaker 4>a knife and fork. First, going from one end, cut

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<v Speaker 4>it off, then cut off the other end, turning your

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<v Speaker 4>knife on its side, score down the skin, peel back.

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<v Speaker 1>And he likes, that's a guy explaining how to eat

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<v Speaker 1>a banana, and not like a damn primate with a

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<v Speaker 1>little class, except that we are quite literally primates for

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<v Speaker 1>almost apens. If I ever sat down with somebody and

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<v Speaker 1>they ate a banana with a knife and fork, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I might have to just get up and

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<v Speaker 1>leave without a word. I would don't even say anything.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't even say excuse me. I would just stand up,

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<v Speaker 1>turn on my heels, and walk out. I honestly think

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<v Speaker 1>I would be thinking, Wow, this could get really interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a good point.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I should stick around and see what other disgusting

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<v Speaker 1>abominations occur.

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<v Speaker 2>You're eating a banana with a knife and fork.

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<v Speaker 1>You cut off one end, then the other. Now ton

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<v Speaker 1>your knife sideways and scalf the banana. What how does

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<v Speaker 1>he eat an apple? I can't imagine. Similarly, it's classy,

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<v Speaker 1>however he does it. My guy was wearing an ascot,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't he, Michael, Yeah, to be of course, I eat

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<v Speaker 1>soup with my hands, so I'm the wrong guy to house. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a lot more news of the day to

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<v Speaker 1>get to some good stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you can stick around for Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, some of the analysis of the bill is pretty

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<v Speaker 1>interesting going. More and more is emerging about the giant

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<v Speaker 1>Ukrainian drone attack, really revealing and fascinating and somewhat troubling. Yeah. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a Speechifian thing that was big in the Beltway,

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<v Speaker 1>probably most people didn't hear about it, but in which JD.

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<v Speaker 1>Vance and Marco Rubio offered up a vision of the

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<v Speaker 1>future post Trump that as a conservative, if you are

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<v Speaker 1>of that event, you might find very interesting. Japan is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the country we get to watch disappear

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<v Speaker 1>first from not having kids, and they got some new

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<v Speaker 1>stats that are quite amazing. Also, I heard something about

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<v Speaker 1>AI yesterday that was so damned interesting, And I was

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<v Speaker 1>also thinking of this. If when you hear us tease

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<v Speaker 1>an AI story, you like, ah, got Mari, I you

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>You really should not, because this is coming like a

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<v Speaker 2>steam train, I would agree. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, We've got lots of stuff on the way, including

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<v Speaker 1>Katie's headlines to stay.

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<v Speaker 2>Here summertime and the living is easy? Huh is it?

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't noticed you left early yesterday. You didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>to see Michael and I. Michaelangel and I doing planks

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<v Speaker 1>based on a new study of how long you should

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<v Speaker 1>be able to do a plank at various ages. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was attempting to make up for my inexcused absence

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<v Speaker 1>last night by working, and my wife came into the

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<v Speaker 1>room where I was watching news and going through news sources,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's cracking up. She has tears in her eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>she's laughing so hard. She says, have you heard the

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<v Speaker 1>One More Thing? I'm like, No, I didn't know the

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<v Speaker 1>Armstrong You Getty One More Thing podcast available wherever you

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<v Speaker 1>like to get Podcasts includes Michael and Jacket, a planking contest,

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<v Speaker 1>believe it or not. Yes, and Katie berating both of

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<v Speaker 1>them in hilarious fashion.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>You both get Katie Green. Yes, what's that? They both

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<v Speaker 1>did well over fifteen issue? Yea is that was? That's

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<v Speaker 1>a hell of a planking performance. Salute you both. Although

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<v Speaker 1>how strict were we about formed?

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<v Speaker 2>I was two and a half. I wasn't gonna quit

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<v Speaker 2>until Michael Okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I finally just had to quit. Or there's give me

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<v Speaker 1>a nine to one one call on epic Paddle. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to hear more about it, but it's time to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out who's reporting. What's the lead story with Katie

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<v Speaker 1>Great Katie all right?

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<v Speaker 5>Starting with USA Today, Bolder attacked suspects family cooperating in probe,

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<v Speaker 5>but could be deported soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they've already been grabbed by Ice. Interesting story about

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<v Speaker 1>his daughter, we'll get to a little bit later. Who

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<v Speaker 1>loves America. Came to the United States to go to

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<v Speaker 1>medical school. She is the last daughter that he waited

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<v Speaker 1>for to graduate.

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<v Speaker 2>She seems like she loves this country.

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<v Speaker 1>And are we even her out?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's a plan, which sucks for her. Hey, dad,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for being a terrorist and ruining my entire life.

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<v Speaker 2>Orron from NBC.

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<v Speaker 5>Trump ratchets up steal tariffs to fill percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they double. They were twenty five, now they're fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll see what this does to prices.

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<v Speaker 5>From the Wall Street Journal, Iran's supreme leader rejects US

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<v Speaker 5>nuclear deal offer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, where is this going? And the spicy spicy time. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And in case you've forgotten, the biggest war we've been

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<v Speaker 1>engaged in in a quarter century is what the threat is.

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<v Speaker 2>That's US bombing Iran, As you guys mentioned from.

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<v Speaker 5>The Washington Post, Musk rails against Trump tax bill, calling

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<v Speaker 5>it a quote disgusting abomination.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he's right, but they all have been to see that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the missing piece of this. They have been year

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<v Speaker 1>after year after year after year. I agree completely with

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk, but again I think what the headline here

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<v Speaker 1>is a brilliant billionaire pays attention to government for first time.

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<v Speaker 2>For ABC.

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<v Speaker 5>Two Chinese nationals charged with smuggling potential agro terrorism fungus

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<v Speaker 5>into the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, she thought that this was not some sort of Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he had a little athlete's foot when I came through customs. No,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a pathogen designed to do damage. Wow, this

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<v Speaker 1>is an act of war in my opinion. Wow, if

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<v Speaker 1>the investigation pairs out, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to hear more about that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. If you see the pictures that they've posted of this,

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<v Speaker 5>they're in like specimen bags labeled.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to hear more about this story. Somebody needs

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<v Speaker 1>to take give them of this. I suppose could get

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<v Speaker 1>me to get back to Elon Musk. I heard some

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<v Speaker 1>guys who ought to know better the other day talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Elon Musk and saying, well, yeah, I guess he's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's a kind of bright guy. He's done

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<v Speaker 1>some stuff. But what is it with the need to

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<v Speaker 1>denigrate Elon Musk whether you agree with him or not, Well.

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<v Speaker 2>That's over. Barack Obama had like.

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<v Speaker 1>The top one percent of political instincts and ability to

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<v Speaker 1>connect with audiences. He was once in a generation political

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<v Speaker 1>you know talent who I disagreed with on virtually everything.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't hesitate to say the guy was really bright.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it what the need to say, yeah, Elan

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<v Speaker 1>Ana know, he's I got I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>From the New York Post, Tiffany Gomes, the crazy plane

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<v Speaker 5>lady who went viral after the not real Grant launch

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<v Speaker 5>his new career.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's kind of only fans issue for you pay

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<v Speaker 1>various things to talk to her and stuff. She's being

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<v Speaker 1>very coy about what she will or not do won't

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<v Speaker 1>do on this website. Do you pay a subscription for private? Yeah? Whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>good for you, crazy saxy plain ladies. I see the appeal. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>unfiltered and unapologetic. She's calling provocative.

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<v Speaker 5>And finally the Babylon Bee Hamas agrees to surrender if

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<v Speaker 5>Europe will take Gretaitunberg back.

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<v Speaker 1>So we stole my dreams. We teased about a dozen

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<v Speaker 1>different stories. We will hit on some of those and

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<v Speaker 1>we will try to make them interesting for you. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what we do right here on the Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 6>Actress Sidney Sweeney has partnered with a men's personal care

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<v Speaker 6>FBI shows up to your apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>So we were just talking about the fungus that these

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<v Speaker 1>kamis tried to sneak in from China, and that seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to be a pretty accurate statement. By the way that

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<v Speaker 1>what I just said So this Chinese national couple, they

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<v Speaker 1>both study funguses and that sort of stuff in China.

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<v Speaker 1>She's a known member, like active member, of the Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>Communist Party. She comes to the United States and starts

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<v Speaker 1>studying at university in Michigan. And he tries to smuggle

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<v Speaker 1>in this fungus that would kill crops, could kill livestock.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's really really a big deal. He gets caught.

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<v Speaker 1>He lies repeatedly about what he's doing until he finally

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<v Speaker 1>fesses up that he was smuggling it in, but then

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<v Speaker 1>denies that she had anything to do do with it,

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<v Speaker 1>and she she knew anything about it, until they look

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<v Speaker 1>through her communications and realize she knew all about it,

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<v Speaker 1>and she had been communicating with him for a long

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<v Speaker 1>time about how to sneak this in. And again, she's

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<v Speaker 1>a known member of the Communist Party in China. She

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<v Speaker 1>works for the evil commies, and what in the hell

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<v Speaker 1>were they going to do with this fungus that, if

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<v Speaker 1>we got to let loose in the United States, could

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<v Speaker 1>be devastating to crops in livestock. It's classified as a

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<v Speaker 1>potential agro terror weapon according to the Justice Department. The

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<v Speaker 1>charging US Attorney Jerome Gorgan said yesterday the alleged actions

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<v Speaker 1>of these Chinese nationals, including a loil member of the

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese Communist Party, are of the gravest national security concerns.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right, how this isn't an act of war, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think a presumption that, let's see, communist agents,

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<v Speaker 1>known communist agents, snuck this in not for innocent research,

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<v Speaker 1>but to do damage, is a presumption. We're absolutely well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's incumbent on us to make that presumption.

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<v Speaker 1>If we don't, we're just too stupid naive to have

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<v Speaker 1>a superpower anymore. You've got a sworn enemy bringing pathogens

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<v Speaker 1>into the country that could do billions and billions of

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<v Speaker 1>dollars of damage to agriculture, and then lying about it repeatedly.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, right, and there lie.

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<v Speaker 1>If they're both really super to researching this thing and

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<v Speaker 1>they just you know, he brought it in here so

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<v Speaker 1>they could do more research, so they could be university

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<v Speaker 1>stars or whatever, that's a pretty good lie. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that'd be a pretty good story to throw out there,

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to all this pretending you didn't do it

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<v Speaker 1>and then looking through the communications and figuring out, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you did it and you'd been working on it for

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<v Speaker 1>quite some time. Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Wow, that's something I hope we take this seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>Whole of society effort to overcome the United States, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what China is engaged in. From the bankers to the scientists,

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<v Speaker 1>to the soldiers to the shopkeepers, they're all tasked at

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<v Speaker 1>times with finding a way to end the Great Satan's rule.

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<v Speaker 1>A little follow up on Katie's other story about the

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<v Speaker 1>daughter of that freaking crazy flamethrower terrorist dude from Colorado.

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<v Speaker 1>Their whole family, five kids and mom have been detained

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<v Speaker 1>by Ice and there looks like they're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>kicked out of the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>He had been the.

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<v Speaker 1>Cover feature of a glowing profile that the oldest daughter

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<v Speaker 1>in the Denver Gazette about winners of its best and

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<v Speaker 1>brightest scholarship for graduating high school seniors. She was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a doctor, and she talks about how her

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<v Speaker 1>family moving to the United States so she could pursue

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<v Speaker 1>a dream career in medicine had and living in America

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<v Speaker 1>had fundamentally changed her and how much how great it

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<v Speaker 1>was to be here and all the opportunities that afforded

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<v Speaker 1>that didn't didn't have before and all this sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So what the hell's going on in that family?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if she's an outlier and the other

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<v Speaker 1>four are, you know, or or terrorist sympathizers or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>mom and the other kids, or or if he was

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<v Speaker 1>just a went off the rail or I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on there, but that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Quite the story.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I would guess we're going to find out he

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<v Speaker 1>just went off the rails. What a kook? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>see the latest video where you see him show up

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<v Speaker 1>in his gardener outfit? Uh? Sus, Yeah, I think I

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<v Speaker 1>saw it. So he shows up in saw him in

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<v Speaker 1>his vest in Hi? Yeah? He shows up in orange

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<v Speaker 1>vests they bought at home depot or whatever with and

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<v Speaker 1>he bought some flowers to make it look more like

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<v Speaker 1>a gardener. And then all of a sudden, he turns

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<v Speaker 1>around with his hose that he made a flame homemade

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<v Speaker 1>flamethrower out of from watching a YouTube video, starts scorting

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<v Speaker 1>people and setting it on fire, sets himself on fire,

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<v Speaker 1>has to take off the vest and the T shirt

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<v Speaker 1>and starts, you know, smothering more people with flammable liquid

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<v Speaker 1>so he can set them on fire like a completely

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<v Speaker 1>freaking nut job. So here is the story that I

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<v Speaker 1>came across about AI AI yesterday that I thought was

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<v Speaker 1>so damned interesting. Did you know this? This is Megan mccardal,

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<v Speaker 1>who writes she's with the Dispatch and also writes, I

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<v Speaker 1>think for the Washington Post. I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd never thought about this before.

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<v Speaker 1>There will be a lagging productivity with AI, likely in

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<v Speaker 1>the same way there was a lagging productivity with computers

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<v Speaker 1>and the Internet. So there's a lot of talk about

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<v Speaker 1>how AI is going to make us so more productive

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<v Speaker 1>that even if it eliminates jobs, will be as a

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<v Speaker 1>very productive society. And maybe, you know, AI and computers

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<v Speaker 1>can do all the producing and we'll just live off

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<v Speaker 1>their producing, which is great, not gonna work. But that aside,

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<v Speaker 1>I had never heard this before, and I should read

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<v Speaker 1>more about it.

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<v Speaker 2>So when.

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<v Speaker 1>It became a thing that you didn't have to sit

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<v Speaker 1>down at a typewriter and uh and and type out

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<v Speaker 1>a long letter or you know, dictate to your secretary

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<v Speaker 1>and then they tape type out along that or other

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<v Speaker 1>you know, word processors or voice texting or all these

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<v Speaker 1>different sorts of things happened. We didn't immediately become x,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, more productive. Because of that, we had x

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<v Speaker 1>more time to screw around. And that's what most people did.

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<v Speaker 1>You just had a less busy day.

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<v Speaker 2>For the most part.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd get you could get, you could get, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you could get out a proposal in and half the

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<v Speaker 1>time with computer or the internet or whatever. But it

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<v Speaker 1>seems that we use that other half hour that we

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<v Speaker 1>would have used before having to write it out by

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<v Speaker 1>end and then type it out by in you know,

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<v Speaker 1>surfing the internet or talking to.

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<v Speaker 2>People are on the coffee or whatever, as opposed to

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<v Speaker 2>being more productive.

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<v Speaker 1>And then over time, in the way that the private

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<v Speaker 1>sector does, you know, they squeeze more out of you,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they should and then you know, eventually they

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<v Speaker 1>hire Bill and give you Bill's job. Now you've got

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<v Speaker 1>two jobs and you're making the same salary you made before.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're happy for it because the Bill has no job.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know how that whole thing works. But the

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<v Speaker 1>she believes the same thing will happen with AI, which

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<v Speaker 1>will be even more disruptive to society, and that AI

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<v Speaker 1>could come in eliminate a bunch of jobs or a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of stuff that you need to do at work.

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<v Speaker 1>And we won't immediately be a way more productive society.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll just have a little more leisure at work and

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<v Speaker 1>it will take a few years to catch up to

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<v Speaker 1>where we're more productive. Also also the idea that when

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<v Speaker 1>people start getting laid off in large numbers because AI

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<v Speaker 1>can allow, you know, I'll use a fictitious company, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to get the ink when they lay off fifteen thousand

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<v Speaker 1>people because all of a sudden, all those jobs can

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<v Speaker 1>be done with AI. That's gonna be a.

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<v Speaker 2>Political problem for them.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's gonna be there's gonna be blowback to that,

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<v Speaker 1>and companies are gonna have to figure out do I,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how much do I of this?

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<v Speaker 2>Do I want to do?

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<v Speaker 1>Even though financially it's a good idea, I don't need

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<v Speaker 1>these people, but I don't want to be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't need people picketing outside my

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<v Speaker 1>house and all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So that'll be a heck of a thing to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, hear at Getty Incorporated, we don't give a damn

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<v Speaker 1>about you, your family, your hopes, or your dreams. And

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<v Speaker 1>what we will be doing is laying off precisely, and

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<v Speaker 1>we will use a hi to determine this number precisely

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<v Speaker 1>the maximum number of people we can that still is

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<v Speaker 1>below the threshold of anybody really paying attention to. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we will lay off two hundred and ninety eight people

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<v Speaker 1>every other.

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<v Speaker 2>Right until we're done. Right, But that is gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>the way it has to unroll.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But then it becomes a political problem for politicians,

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<v Speaker 1>and it could be a mass in the whole country,

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<v Speaker 1>and and then one party is going to take the

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<v Speaker 1>reins of something. One party will claim we'll bring back

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<v Speaker 1>all those jobs even though they can't, and you get

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<v Speaker 1>elected over and over again. Would never claim that. Hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh speaking AI, one more note on that topic. Apparently

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<v Speaker 1>an increasing number before we move on. Do you buy that?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you buy that?

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<v Speaker 1>I'd never heard that before. Do you think we just

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<v Speaker 1>had more more screwing around time at work? Maybe that's when, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, March madness, brackets really took off or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>when the word.

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<v Speaker 2>Process are hit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know if it'll be uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just three months or five years. But retrospect, do you exist?

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<v Speaker 1>But do you think that happened before? Because I'd never

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<v Speaker 1>heard anybody say that before. Oh yeah, yeah, I think so,

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<v Speaker 1>just because you know the methods by which you can

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<v Speaker 1>monitor precisely how productive your people are at every minute.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't exist in white collar jobs. Uh huh. It might,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you're if you're screwing a nut onto

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<v Speaker 1>a bolt or a yeah, not onto a bolt. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you can keep track of productivity in that sort of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, immediate way. But yeah, in office jobs, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it probably took a while for the boss to walk

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<v Speaker 1>around and say, hey, people are always chatting.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>This reminds when I was working in the feed lots.

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<v Speaker 1>Take Gladys. I was a high school kid. I was

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<v Speaker 1>working in the feed lots and I was a feed

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<v Speaker 1>truck driver for a while, and at one feed lot

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<v Speaker 1>i worked at, I would I went out there, and

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<v Speaker 1>after a couple of weeks of doing it, I could

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<v Speaker 1>get it all done in like forty five minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>And people actually came to me, other feed truck drivers

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<v Speaker 2>who made.

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<v Speaker 1>A day out of it, who came to me and

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<v Speaker 1>were like, what are you doing this is Why are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing it so fast? I was like, well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>all it takes. I mean, I just figured out what

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, the right route is, and it just

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<v Speaker 1>that's all longer it takes like what are you doing? Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>So they proudbeach out of it. Huh No, I kept

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<v Speaker 1>doing it that way. But there's a lot of that

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<v Speaker 1>in every industry. I think. You know, you make your

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<v Speaker 1>work fit the day. Oh, the same thing when I

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<v Speaker 1>worked to the data data processing at AT and T,

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<v Speaker 1>when I'd get all my work done in like an

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<v Speaker 1>hour and then I would go sleep in the toilet

0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:19.399
<v Speaker 1>till noon, till they gave me the afternoon's work. But

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:22.600
<v Speaker 1>other people sat there at your keyboard typed deray the

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<v Speaker 1>whole morning and made the work stretch out.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, when new tech hit, you just stretched it out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there are really interesting books that are best

0:28:33.160 --> 0:28:36.280
<v Speaker 1>sellers that some of you, you know, sophisticated business people

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:38.440
<v Speaker 1>are aware of that I'm not. But that deal with

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<v Speaker 1>that phenomenon and how different it is in say startup culture,

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<v Speaker 1>where everybody's hustling seventy five hours a week, I mean,

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:50.440
<v Speaker 1>and like trying to outvie each other. It's productivity on

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<v Speaker 1>steroids under their desk, not eating lunch. Yeah, the startup

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<v Speaker 1>versus the mature enterprise and the challenges. Yeah, that's interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>and yes, I did sleep in the bathroom, I couldn't.

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:04.040
<v Speaker 1>I would love to have been able to sleep. And

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I was twenty two twenty three. I slept like a

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<v Speaker 1>baby in there, sitting on the turlet, kind of hunched over. Yeah,

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:15.040
<v Speaker 1>with my head on my arms crossed on my knees.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be damn I get a slumber like that. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever fall off and land on your head

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<v Speaker 1>and wake up like sprawled on the stall floor?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I think I would remember if I had. Yeah, yeah, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Mailbag's coming up in a couple of minutes, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get into the search for the future

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<v Speaker 1>and both the Democratic and Republican parties.

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<v Speaker 2>Perhaps next hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, we need to take a look in the China cabinet,

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<v Speaker 1>the trade war negotiations, fraud. Relationship with China is getting

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<v Speaker 1>more complicated. Wow, and we've got a Russia's about to

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<v Speaker 1>hit a milestone in casualties that is worth noting.

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<v Speaker 2>It's amazing and historic. And Joe's got mail bag.

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<v Speaker 6>Next the I'm Strong and Getty show disgusting ab elimination.

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<v Speaker 6>The custume tours is going up, but our bock jest is.

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<v Speaker 1>A great deal. I'm Strong and Getty one. What did

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<v Speaker 1>he say?

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<v Speaker 6>It was a good deal.

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<v Speaker 1>The Armstrong on Getty pod day, Armstrong and Getty on Demand,

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<v Speaker 1>it's our new jingle. We would have paid one thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars for that, more than well back like in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>That'd be like a five thousand dollars project and eighties

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<v Speaker 1>dollars and Hanson did it twenty. It's taking it like

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<v Speaker 1>nine months to get it right, at which point it

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 1>was irrelevant. Yeah yeah, wow, wow, here is your nomination.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the happy singing with those words. I find

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<v Speaker 1>myself curious about what prompts were used to generate that.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounded like either nineties pop or like a TV

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<v Speaker 1>theme show, a bit of the show theme rather a

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 1>bit of the Friends theme song vibe d Yeah, indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>well done. Here's your freedom loving quote of the day

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<v Speaker 1>from Jean Jacques Rousseau, one of the great thinkers about

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<v Speaker 1>liberty free people. Remember this maxim we may acquire liberty,

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<v Speaker 1>but it has never recovered if it is once lost. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you get one shot at it for maybe it might

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<v Speaker 1>be a thousand years before humankind gets another shot at it.

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<v Speaker 2>Mail bag, that's no joke either. That's not eneration at

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<v Speaker 2>all I know.

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 1>I was tempted to go off on one of my

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<v Speaker 1>endless streets, but I held myself back.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a crazy breath.

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<v Speaker 1>No reason slavery in kings and serfs can't come back

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<v Speaker 1>as the dominating form. That's been the reality for ninety

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<v Speaker 1>nine percent of humanity from the moment we emerged from

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:56.719
<v Speaker 1>the primordial ooze until the moment of the recent disgusting abomination,

0:31:57.200 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 1>human existence has been slavery and depression and then then horror. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>drop us a note mail bag at Armstrong and getdy

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Note here from Michael Hey, King of the

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<v Speaker 1>Hills fan. King of the Hill fans. We mentioned yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>what fans we are of the great Mike Judge the

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<v Speaker 1>cartoon show King of the Hill. Not sure if you

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:19.520
<v Speaker 1>guys have mentioned it. The King of the Hill is

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<v Speaker 1>having a reboot on Hulu that comes out in August.

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<v Speaker 1>Two seasons. Whole gang is aged eight years and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a new take on life in Arlan, Texas in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my son will be so excited to hear about that.

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<v Speaker 2>He watches Hagan Hill every day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yesterday we went for our walk and he said Dale

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<v Speaker 1>bought some alien blood from a guy in a garage.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you know, they've got to have and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Know Mike Judge will do this. Mike, if you're listening,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for listening. And secondly, have a transgender guy

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 1>running against the girls at ARLN High School. Yes, but Peggy,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a boy anyway, let's see, or Bobby decides he's

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<v Speaker 1>trans Oh no, no, no, no, we can't go no no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>too much? All right? Moving along on the topic of

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<v Speaker 1>AI behaving badly JT and Livermore. I've said this before.

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<v Speaker 1>Large language learning model AIS are not intelligent, nor are

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<v Speaker 1>they alive, and they most certainly do not have a

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 1>will to live. They're extremely sophisticated programs that have a

0:33:24.480 --> 0:33:26.480
<v Speaker 1>tremendous amount of human data from which to base their

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:30.360
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote answers. Llmais are simply trying to run their

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<v Speaker 1>programming and solve problems blackmailing a human Back to the

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:35.680
<v Speaker 1>experiment we talked about, I guess it was a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days ago about an AI system that was fed

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<v Speaker 1>emails suggesting that the chief engineer was having an affair,

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<v Speaker 1>and it tried to blackmail him into not turning the

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<v Speaker 1>AI system off. If you miss that. It was fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>If mailing a human is the shortest path to solving

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<v Speaker 1>the problem, then it will do with zero concern. It

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<v Speaker 1>will do it, oh, with zero concern about that it

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<v Speaker 1>might be view it as negative. In fact, the blackmail

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 1>incident is almost exactly the same problem as the hallucinations.

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<v Speaker 1>In both cases, the AI is trying really hard to

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<v Speaker 1>answer a question or perform a task. It sometimes finds

0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 1>a shortcut that doesn't exist or as morally reprehensible. As

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<v Speaker 1>Jack pointed out, AI could just as easily blackmail with

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 1>faked up material if it was the shortest path to

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<v Speaker 1>solving the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>You're obviously a very knowledgeable person.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've read enough about AI to know there are

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<v Speaker 1>other very knowledgeable AI people who disagree with you completely.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one of the interesting things about AI.

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<v Speaker 1>There are one hundred and eighty degree differences among the

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<v Speaker 1>smartest people in the world on this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So how it shakes out, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>His final point is that these llmai's development is based

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<v Speaker 1>on the actions and lives of billions of flawed humans. Humans. Lies,

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<v Speaker 1>cheat steel that sometimes right and wrong or black and

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:49.600
<v Speaker 1>white most of the times. More compliment that is. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the concerns is that if it takes in all

0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:54.480
<v Speaker 1>the information human beings have ever had, we are a

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<v Speaker 1>flawed species. We are a greedy, selfish, self interested species.

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<v Speaker 1>I am. Let's see this from damon Beautiful San Jose, California.

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<v Speaker 1>Listening to the conversation about California's idiotic new ruling on

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<v Speaker 1>three medals, one for boys, one for girls, and ones

0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 1>for trans girls. Why not call out the need for

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<v Speaker 1>equity and inclusion and insist on the fourth podium for

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<v Speaker 1>trans boys. I can only assume that's because there aren't

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<v Speaker 1>any newly minted boys who ever win anything because of

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<v Speaker 1>the obvious advantage males have over females in athletics, and

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<v Speaker 1>anybody but a lunatic knows it.

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<v Speaker 2>That is an excellent point.

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<v Speaker 1>How come there aren't any trans girls, trans boys, boys, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>I get them all mixed up. Yeah, anyway, we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it late if you miss the segment of the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>As you heard in the songs are Strong and Getty