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Speaker 1: Of Course.

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Speaker 2: Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic episode

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Speaker 2: was produced by the team at Pandora. Hey, Hey, what's up.

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Speaker 2: This is QLs classic April fourth, twenty eighteen with the

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Speaker 2: Great Matthew Alfred.

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Speaker 1: Yankovin that's right, y'all.

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Speaker 3: Weird Al Yankee Vic.

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Speaker 4: Joins us and he talks about hilarious songs that Prince

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Speaker 4: would never clear, why he turned down the opening slot

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Speaker 4: on Michael Jackson's nineteen eighty eight bad Tour, and how

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Speaker 4: he got away with poking fun at Kurt Copaine, Cooglio

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Speaker 4: and Azalea and many more.

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Speaker 1: Not to mention.

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Speaker 3: I gotta say this roll call intro is.

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Speaker 1: One for the record books. Hope you enjoyed QLs with

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Speaker 1: Weird Al Yandy Vick. All Right, yah ready, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: yelling already like you. Let's go.

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Speaker 5: Sub cram well sun Subpremo. Oh called Suprema Son, So

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Speaker 5: supreme role called Supreme Son Son, Supremo role called Suprema Son,

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Speaker 5: Suprema Roll call, rewind select the three right, come back

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Speaker 5: again select Yeah, I want to do.

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Speaker 1: We are in the greatness of of of of greatness

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Speaker 1: right now, gentlemen, Yes, we are in the greatest of greatness.

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Speaker 1: We are we are in the yo. We are remixing

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Speaker 1: this role call. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 6: Supremo Supremo, Ro Supreme, Supreme roll call, Supreme Supreme, roll call,

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Speaker 6: Supreme Supreme.

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Speaker 1: Yes to all of y'all. Yeah, I just had the remix.

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Speaker 1: Yeah the brand.

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Speaker 6: Carrio Suprema roll call, Supremo Supremo roll so Premoth sock

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Speaker 6: Supremo call Suprema southing Suprema.

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Speaker 1: My name is Fante. Yeah, this is my home.

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Speaker 7: Even Ezekiel thinks my mind is gone.

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Speaker 6: Supreme Supremo, roll call, Supremouth, Suprema Ro Suprema spriva ro

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Speaker 6: call Suprema.

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Speaker 1: My name is Sugar.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I got the Sugars, I got Sciattica, and now

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Speaker 8: I'm living with a herd.

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Speaker 9: Supremo Ro Supremo suthing something Suprema roll Supremoth sucks up

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Speaker 9: Primo roll Supreme up from southing Sason.

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Speaker 7: Sure of all the concerts, Boss Bill has been yeah weird.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, in the top two.

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Speaker 6: Roll call, So pray my South suck Suprema roll call,

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Speaker 6: Supremo supping sup It's a Prema roll call, so pretty

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Speaker 6: much sucking suck.

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Speaker 3: It's a prima roll.

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Speaker 1: So pre u s pre roll call.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, far from emerging.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, weird Al's here.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, like a sober day so.

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Speaker 6: Pretty much shopping shut up Prema roll Supreme up sucking

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Speaker 6: sup sup pre roll call so pretty much southing suck

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Speaker 6: so pra my roll call Supreme sun pre roll call.

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Speaker 10: I know, free style, I am the worst. Yeah, it

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Speaker 10: wouldn't be better if this won't reheart.

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Speaker 1: Pray, pray pray sho. That was He was like, they're

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Speaker 1: going to beat your ass. Is that you all playing? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: yeah that was last minute, like zero o'clock in the morning.

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Speaker 1: That was shout out to the school.

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Speaker 11: Yes, the first time we've done that out.

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Speaker 1: We've never changed the music up before.

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Speaker 10: First pokemonsh up, Yeah, we had to.

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Speaker 1: We're in the greatness of greatness, ladies and gentlemen. What

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Speaker 1: more can I say? We have one of the greatest.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he shut down his own category. He is

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Speaker 1: a one of one. There.

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Speaker 10: The job is taken.

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Speaker 1: It's just like, you know, you are the greatest parody satire, right, satirist, Yes, satirist. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you are the goat.

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Speaker 10: Thank you man, you are the goat. You're the goat.

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Speaker 1: As well, thank you. I feel goadus pleasy, gentleman. Please

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Speaker 1: welcome Alfred Matthew yank wow go, I have to use it.

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Speaker 10: My social Security numbers five six, n.

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Speaker 1: Man one. I'm grateful that you did this. I'm thankful

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Speaker 1: because you know, we've all been fan of yours. But

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's to the point that you're not even

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Speaker 1: a proper nown. You're a verb.

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Speaker 10: You're i mean, like a weird out of the song. Yeah, oh,

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Speaker 10: you're weird about that song exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: How are you though, place for asking?

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Speaker 10: Doing very well? I just just got back from uh,

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Speaker 10: Hawaii last night.

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Speaker 1: We were there.

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Speaker 10: We lived there part time, and I'm just kind of

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Speaker 10: getting used to uh uh not seeing the ocean and

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Speaker 10: flowers and beautiful things all the time.

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Speaker 1: Thanks.

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Speaker 10: We live in the east side. Hey, we live out

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Speaker 10: in the jungle. We're about another half a mile down

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Speaker 10: the road and we there's like no internet, no nothing.

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Speaker 10: We're in the jungle, baby really yeah, why because it's

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Speaker 10: a whole different kind of Hawaii. Mean, you can go

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Speaker 10: to the west side and there's like, you know, you

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Speaker 10: can have your drinks by the pool and it's very

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Speaker 10: res already and very nice. But but the East Side

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Speaker 10: is like old Hawaii and it just feels like, you know,

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Speaker 10: you can really kind of it's a place where you

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Speaker 10: go and do nothing. A lot of people like go

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Speaker 10: to to Hanna and they go, oh, there's nothing here.

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Speaker 10: That's kind of the point. It's like a great place

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Speaker 1: So you needed to uh sort of recharge and and yeah.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a it's a whole. It's kind of like

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Speaker 10: the opposite of l A. So a couple of times

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Speaker 10: a year my family goes out there and just kind

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Speaker 10: of unplugs and you know, talk, talk to the cows,

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Speaker 10: you know, hang out.

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Speaker 1: No, you just scared me with no Internet. Yeah, get

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Speaker 1: you away from Instagram? Why would you ever want to

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Speaker 1: do that? But I understand it's necessary.

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Speaker 10: Where are you from from Linwood? Straight o Linwood? Yeah.

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Speaker 10: In fact, Shiat Knight went to my high school.

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Speaker 7: What wow wait wait wait wait, sarcasm detectors right.

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Speaker 10: Now, that's absolutely true.

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Speaker 1: Wow Okay.

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Speaker 10: Fred Winn from The Monsters, Mark Spitz, I believe, and

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Speaker 10: Kevin Costner also went to the same time.

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Speaker 1: Wow wow. Uh So, first of all, what were you

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Speaker 1: like as a kid? And I asked that very slowly

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Speaker 1: because I don't think people are yeah accurate in describing themselves.

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Speaker 10: But I mean, well, this might come as a huge

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Speaker 10: shock to you, but I was a little nerdy really, No, No,

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Speaker 10: I was. I was definitely well, I was sort of

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Speaker 10: a you know, sort of a weird kid, I was.

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Speaker 10: But I was always a good student. I was always

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Speaker 10: a straight a student, the kind of guy that you

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Speaker 10: beat up at recess.

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Speaker 1: But you know, because you try to, you gave the

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Speaker 1: wrong answers anywhere.

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Speaker 10: Just mess with them. But no, I was always a

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Speaker 10: good kid, but I was always a little strange. I

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Speaker 10: other nerdy kids during lunchtime, that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, basically yeah, yeah, this room read backstory. So your

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Speaker 1: your gift of music? How did that start?

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Speaker 10: Like, well, I guess it started when my parents decided

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Speaker 10: I should take accordion lessons.

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Speaker 1: Uh why, well they could.

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Speaker 10: Well, I think you know, the joke answer is that

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Speaker 10: they realized that according music was going to take over

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Speaker 10: Western civilization. But really I think they honestly thought that

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Speaker 10: it would make me more popular, because you know, when

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Speaker 10: you play the accordion, you're a one man band, you're

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Speaker 10: the life of any party.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know something though, they were right.

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Speaker 10: In their own weird way.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's no one in this world that does

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Speaker 10: So it's like it was actually kind of a stroke

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Speaker 10: of luck that they decided on such a dorky instrument.

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Speaker 10: Because Doctor Demento the Distract really started my career. He

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Speaker 10: says that. You know, when he got my first tape

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Speaker 10: in the mail, he said, if it was some teenage

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Speaker 10: wouldn't have given it a second thought. But because there

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Speaker 10: was this teenage kid playing the accordion and somehow thinking

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Speaker 10: he was cool, he said, well, that's the novelty. That's

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Speaker 10: worth the maritime Wow.

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Speaker 12: So can you write down for us how the accordion works,

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Speaker 12: like as an instrument, like how like physically? Weeks Yeah,

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Speaker 12: how physically works and how you read the music? Does

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Speaker 12: it is like a piano or the right hand.

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Speaker 10: Part is like a piano. It's talking about piano acordions.

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Speaker 10: They're different kind of accordions, but that's the one I use.

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Speaker 10: So the right hand part is exactly like a piano

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Speaker 10: and the left hand part is buttons. Their accordions have

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Speaker 10: different numbers of buttons. One twenty is like the standard one.

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Speaker 10: The top two rows are basses and all the rest

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Speaker 10: then minor chords and seventh chords and then diminished chords.

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Speaker 10: And there's a lot of repeat buttons because you don't

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Speaker 10: want to have to like do one button on one

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Speaker 13: You know.

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Speaker 10: So it's just, you know, looking back on it, it's

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Speaker 10: kind of a hard instrument to learn. And I figured

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Speaker 10: out because I gave my daughter accordion lessons a few

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Speaker 10: years ago. She out of the blues, decided she wanted

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Speaker 10: to play the accordion, which you know, I have to

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Speaker 10: say that so they don't send me to send it

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Speaker 10: to child Protective Services.

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Speaker 10: And we got her a little accordion, and I taught

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Speaker 10: her some Christmas songs and she lost interests after couple

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Speaker 10: of months. But but she actually, you know, can play

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Speaker 1: This is there a left handed according for those that

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Speaker 10: You mean to play like the keys on the left hand.

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Speaker 10: That's a really good question. I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 10: and maybe you could play it upside down. I've never

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Speaker 10: seen that done though. That's I have no idea. I

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Speaker 1: Are you related to now? There was a clip when

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Speaker 1: you first came to the Tonight Show to sit in

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Speaker 1: with us, and we did this extended polka jam and

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Speaker 1: it was based on a Yankovic.

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Speaker 10: Who was Franky Yankovic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, are you related to him? Not?

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Speaker 10: Not as far as I can figure. I mean, maybe

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Speaker 10: several generations ago. I'm sure we're all We're ALLTD somehow,

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Speaker 10: but no direct relation. But that might have been another

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Speaker 10: reason why my parents decided I should take take according lessons,

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Speaker 10: because there was already America's polka King, Frankie Yankovic, and

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Speaker 10: they thought, oh, there should be at least one more

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Speaker 10: accordion playing Yankovic in the world. I actually I met

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Speaker 10: Frankie passed away some time ago, but I actually got

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Speaker 10: to bring him out to LA and feature him in

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Speaker 10: a TV special called A Weirdoul's Guide to the Grammys

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Speaker 10: because polka was a category for the first time that year.

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Speaker 10: Sometime in the late eighties, I guess, and we did

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Speaker 10: a whole thing where we you know, gave him a

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Speaker 10: did a poolside interview. We did a whole Frankie Goes

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Speaker 10: to Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: So, growing up or at least being a teenager in

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Speaker 1: the seventies and on the dawning of disco, how are

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Speaker 1: you able to have a high school existence sort of

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Speaker 12: Can you explain to us just, uh, I guess the

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Speaker 10: I always try to go a little above and beyond because,

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Speaker 10: Well we split the writer. I mean, I'd love to

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Speaker 1: Well damn, we already rushed to your nose versus your yeses.

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Speaker 1: And I guess your most famous no was Prince. But yeah,

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Speaker 10: Well, but a half a dozen songs that I approached

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Speaker 10: Uh they're at nineteen ninety nine. I wanted to do

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Speaker 10: The Prince isn't going to change his mind. Now that's

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Speaker 1: And you know, good man, good man, but please demo it.

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Speaker 10: Not, you know, for a lot of songs. I don't

437
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Speaker 10: even write any lyrics until I get permission because it's

438
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 10: really a bummerdoo hard like yeah, because I spend some times,

439
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,719
Speaker 10: like weeks on a single song and to go through

440
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 10: all that effort and then to go, yeah, I don't

441
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 10: really like parodies, and that's a heartbreak.

442
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 11: So how far did you get to the point of

443
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 11: asking can I do a parody? Or asking can I

444
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 11: do a parody of?

445
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: This? Is what?

446
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 10: No, we always we always picture a specific ideas, so

447
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 10: we always say we want to do parody of this song,

448
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 10: and here's the general idea.

449
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: I don't know where I heard from. I think someone

450
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: that asked him a question about it, and he he

451
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: said something like it actually I like him or whatever.

452
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 1: But it wasn't. It wasn't an eye roll or like

453
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: a no, my song is.

454
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,199
Speaker 10: But the only thing I've I've heard I've heard audio

455
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 10: of him talking about my fat video. I was going

456
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 10: to maybe he said something else. Best I've heard any

457
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 10: like that at the time, So what.

458
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 1: Do you say?

459
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 7: He it was it's a rehearsal tape and he's basically

460
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 7: asking the band if they saw the video for fat

461
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 7: and he's like talking about him in the fat suit,

462
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 7: and he's just like cracking up the entire time he

463
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:10,959
Speaker 7: saw him.

464
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Speaker 1: The story, it's pretty great. That would have been encouraging. Yeah,

465
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: that would have been damn man, Now you would have

466
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: killed nineteen. Do you think of the other print songs

467
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Speaker 1: that you us?

468
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 10: Those are my favorites. I think I think there was

469
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 10: something with when Dove's Cry, Like I think like a

470
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 10: fast fruit, a fast food guy, when Spud's fry or

471
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 10: something like that. Another food song, another food song.

472
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: How do how do ideas come to you? Like? Do

473
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 1: you have these dictaphones on standby or you know, like

474
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Speaker 1: just when moments.

475
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Speaker 10: Like well, in the in the very beginning, it was

476
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 10: just like whatever stupid idea came to I had to go, oh,

477
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 10: I'll go with that. But after I started getting some

478
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 10: success and realizing people actually, you know, care about what

479
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 10: I do and a lot of people will obsess over

480
00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 10: but I think, well, I should put some more effort

481
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Speaker 10: into the So now, whenever I find a song that

482
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 10: I think has potential for parody, I'll think of like

483
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 10: a hundred ideas for it. I'll think of every variation

484
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 10: on the thing I possibly can. I'm very analytical about it.

485
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 10: I'll go down and listen and try to see which

486
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 10: of those ideas have any comedic potential and would be

487
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 10: able to sustain comedy for three or three and a

488
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 10: half minutes. And sometimes none of them do. I mean,

489
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 10: sometimes they're all bad ideas, but if I'm lucky, one

490
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 10: will stand out.

491
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Speaker 1: So are you obsessively reading Billboard and listening to music?

492
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 10: And I certainly used to. I haven't been that obsessive

493
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 10: in the last couple of years. I'm kind of kind

494
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 10: of slowing down a little bit. I'm looking at other projects,

495
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 10: but in the thick of it, when I'm actively trying

496
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 10: to figure out what are the parodies, Yeah, I'm listening

497
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 10: to a top forty radio and definitely studying Billboard.

498
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: Well, I was going to say, like, you know, there's

499
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: there's always as a musician and as a music fan,

500
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: there's a point in life where you're actually gave aged

501
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: in contemporary music culture, and then there's a point where

502
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 1: you're like, you feel like, uh, I hate music now

503
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 1: or not I hate music.

504
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 10: But it's well, I'll tell you you know, I like

505
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 10: Top forty music. I like that, but uh, you know

506
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 10: it's not my first choice. I mean, if I could

507
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 10: listen to any radio station, I wouldn't automatically listen to

508
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 10: the top twenty hits.

509
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: You know.

510
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 10: So whenever I was it wasn't that I was not

511
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 10: enjoying it, but I kind of felt like I was

512
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 10: on the clock, you know, I was working.

513
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was going to say, does it make it

514
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: harder for you? Now? Like if you hear something as

515
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: insanely popular as bad and Boogie or Bowdak Yellow and

516
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, I know this is this can be

517
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 1: an instant viral moment for me, But am I really

518
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 1: emotionally invested to it?

519
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 11: Would be interesting, though, Bodak that would be interesting weird

520
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 11: out parody.

521
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 10: Yeah, well I'll consider all that.

522
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: They both wait, they both would be I think you

523
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: said they both are parodies.

524
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 8: Well, I mean, what's what's your actual favorite type of music,

525
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 8: like when you're just at home, Mostly like Viking songs

526
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 8: and whaling music, you know, thank you, like thirteenth century stuff.

527
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,959
Speaker 10: Wow, it's like Game of thro Oh no, that's contemporary.

528
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 3: That stuff's still better than pop music.

529
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 10: So that's while music was good?

530
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I don't particularly engage in the music that

531
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,239
Speaker 1: I make a living in. But you know, I mean,

532
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: if I'm driving a car, I'm rather listening to jazz

533
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: and something completely opposite, or at least to get inspired.

534
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 10: So I find I listened a lot to the music

535
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 10: that I was listening to in high school and college.

536
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 10: That's sort of like my comfort food of music. It's like, oh, remember,

537
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 10: that's what I'm asking you. What what kind of stuff

538
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 10: is that?

539
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 9: You know?

540
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 10: It's a lot of British invasion stuff, a lot of

541
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 10: singer songwriter stuff from the seventies, like a lot of

542
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 10: you know, the kind of the garage bands from the

543
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 10: nineties kind of thing, the grunge movement, a lot of

544
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 10: artists that are not necessarily comedy your novelty, but have

545
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 10: a sense of humor and you know, alternative stuff.

546
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 8: What about your record collection? You still have your record

547
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 8: collection from when you're a teenager?

548
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: You know that.

549
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 10: You know, I should have held onto all my vinyls.

550
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 10: My my wife talked me into a you we got

551
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 10: the c D like but I but I, but I

552
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 10: want to stay married, so.

553
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,919
Speaker 3: Damn yeah, they take up space.

554
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 6: It is.

555
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: The wife was coming. Sorry, So on the I guess

556
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: the opposite side of the fence. Oh wait, before I

557
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: get to even get to Michael Jackson, how important is

558
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: it to you to sort of nurture relationships because I

559
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: find that oftentimes if you go the traditional business route, Okay,

560
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna parody, I'm gonna do something on Rod Stewart. Yeah,

561
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: and then your manager calls their manager, the label calls

562
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: it a label. Then usually it's like some red tape

563
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: shit and it never happens. But you know, if you

564
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: happen to be friends with Rod Stewart and you're like, look,

565
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: I have a really cool idea. Oh yeah, I'll be

566
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: honored for you to bet you.

567
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 10: Know, that sort of thing that happens a lot, you know,

568
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 10: because sometimes it's just hard to get through to another artist.

569
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 10: So if I ever have a direct connection, and I've

570
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 10: used that several times, I mean that was I did

571
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 10: that with Kurt Cobain, like, you know, you know, my

572
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 10: manager couldn't get through to his, you know, their manager.

573
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 10: And finally, you know, I knew somebody at Saurday Night

574
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 10: Live and they were performing that day, and I said,

575
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 10: could you please get Kurt on the phone, And I

576
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 10: got to talk to them directly.

577
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: Wait that easy?

578
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 10: Well basically, and then I told my manager and I said,

579
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 10: Kurt's fine with it. And then then his manager could

580
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 10: call back their managers say, Kurt fine with that.

581
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: How did you pitch Kurt Cobain?

582
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 10: Well, this is a famous story. I talked him on

583
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 10: the phone and this is their first time on Saturday

584
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 10: Night Live. I'm not sure if he was in his

585
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 10: right mind, but I was talking about the phone and

586
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 10: I said, hey, curtis a word all Yankovic and I

587
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 10: wanted to do. I want to do a parody of

588
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,719
Speaker 10: your song that smells like teen Spirit. And he goes, oh,

589
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 10: that's cool. And then there's a kind of a pause

590
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 10: and he goes, is it going to be about food?

591
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: He's a fan, yeah, yea.

592
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 10: And I said, well, no, that's actually about how nobody

593
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 10: can understand your lyrics. And he goes, oh, yeah, sure,

594
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 10: that's funny.

595
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: Wow.

596
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 10: He was a very cool guy. He actually wrote some

597
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 10: very nice things about me and his journals. Remember when

598
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 10: they published the journals, he wrote, ah, well, a humble bragger,

599
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 10: but he wrote weird Al Yankovic is a modern rock genius.

600
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: You are I mean no, no, you are so you

601
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: doing eat it in the at the height of Michael mania.

602
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: I would think that it was actually easier to uh

603
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: get permission from Prince at that time dude, than Michael Jackson.

604
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: That was then Michael's like one of your most accommodating.

605
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 10: That was a real shot in the dark because you know,

606
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 10: at the at that time, I certainly wasn't any you know,

607
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 10: kind of household name. I was just this weird kid

608
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 10: from LA that was making these stupid records and we thought, oh,

609
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 10: maybe Michael Jackson will sign off on those, like ha

610
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 10: ha ha. But mantra was you know, it never hurts

611
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 10: to ask, you know, what's going to do?

612
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: Say no.

613
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 10: Uh So we put it out there and uh, I

614
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 10: forgot forget how long it took.

615
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: But was it a thing or no? No, no.

616
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 10: I got to meet Michael after the pack a couple

617
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 10: of times, but at the time it was sort of

618
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 10: it was just sort of like, uh, okay, Michael signed

619
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 10: off on it, and there is a contract I've I've

620
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 10: got a copy of it with my signature next to

621
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 10: Michael Jackson's signature saying that we are the co writers

622
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 10: of Eat It.

623
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 7: Wow, that is cool, which, by the way, was one

624
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 7: of the first records I ever owned.

625
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so uh, Scottie Brothers, were they seeing Dallas

626
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: signs as in like let's do the video full scale

627
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: or you know, how did you convince them to?

628
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 10: Well they had either Tiger money by this point, did

629
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 10: they not survivor Yeah, so they had that, didn't you do?

630
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: I think you did?

631
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 10: Uh yeah, very yeah you did that on the second

632
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 10: album as well. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, they're happy about that.

633
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

634
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 10: I think that was probably the same studio the Originals

635
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 10: recorded in.

636
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 3: So that was nice. Oh wow.

637
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

638
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 10: And they also had James Brown.

639
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, they had the it was the Unreal album. They

640
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: had Gravity Yeah.

641
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, gotta support those Scotti Brothers artists.

642
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: You know, Dan Harmon was happy.

643
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 10: Yeah.

644
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 6: So uh.

645
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: Who's what was the brain child?

646
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 11: Uh?

647
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: Kind of genesis of the edit video to go full

648
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: scale on it?

649
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 10: Well? That was you know, that was that was in

650
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 10: the days when people were obsessed with m t V.

651
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 10: Were you know, if if a video is on heavy rotation,

652
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 10: like Michael Jackson obviously was, you knew every minute detail

653
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 10: of the video and it was very get a parody

654
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 10: because all you had to do was recreate it and

655
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 10: just tweak things just a little bit and it would

656
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 10: be funny. And at the time it was my most

657
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 10: you know, expensive video because my first video costs like

658
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 10: three thousand dollars. My record lab was like, oh great,

659
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 10: we'll do all your videos for three thousand dollars. Like no, no, no, no,

660
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 10: hold on, I think eat it. At the time, my

661
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 10: manager hates want to talk money, but I'll tell you

662
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 10: it cost forty thousand dollars and that was a real video.

663
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 10: Mone that was at the time. That was yeah, but

664
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Speaker 10: I mean that was the best forty thousand dollars I

665
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 10: ever spent my life.

666
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: But how did you find the jacket? And how did

667
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: you get Cheryl's in the video to buy a jacket?

668
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 10: And then you store At the time it was nineteen

669
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Speaker 10: eighty four. Man, I was like, there were the Michael.

670
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Speaker 1: Jackson jiano tea you had on and all that.

671
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 10: That was the piano t We had to have an

672
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Speaker 10: art director cookout for us. But then yeah, the jack

673
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 10: was just off the rack, Like if you want to,

674
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 10: you know, pay whatever. It was six hundred dollars to

675
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 10: get a leather Michael Jackson jacket that could be had.

676
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: Who directed? Who do you know who directed the video?

677
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 10: I do that was my manager, Jay Levy, Hey is everywhere. Yeah,

678
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 10: he was making his directorial debut. I mean I story

679
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 10: boarded it out and figured out the shots and then

680
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 10: I said, here, Jay, you deal with this.

681
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: I was impressed that you had Cheryl's song in the video,

682
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: the the long haired Asian woman from Soul Train. Oh yeah,

683
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: who heard her hair head comes off? Whatever? Wait? Was

684
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 1: that wasn't? Uh? It was Michael wasn't actual head?

685
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 9: No?

686
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: No, no, I'm trying to figure if you got Michael Peters.

687
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 10: Yeah, is that his name?

688
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: No? No, Michael Peters was the choreographer, well, the one of.

689
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 10: The choreographersons and what was gosh, I'm going a blankht

690
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 10: his name was? It sounds like Peterson?

691
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Speaker 11: Must he was the original white jacket.

692
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 10: Yeah, he was the original guy.

693
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: Yeah that Michael, Michael Peter, Michael Peters. It was the

694
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: white jacket.

695
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's him.

696
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: That was him.

697
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 10: How we asked him, he said, Okay, damn, how much is.

698
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 11: The original beat it video? Callt y'all think?

699
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 1: I think? Well, I know Billy Jean was sixty five.

700
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: It was still under one hundred thousan was it really?

701
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 6: Wow?

702
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? It was under Yeah, I mean Thriller it was

703
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: a million, but I know Billy Jean was sixty five

704
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 1: and and beat it was like eighty five half the

705
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: price under yeah, like slightly under hundred. Yeah.

706
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 10: We had to recreate the barroom scene and if you

707
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 10: have the thing, we looked for the original locations, but

708
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 10: it was all uh they all had the pool. Yeah,

709
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 10: that was just a set on stage.

710
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: Wow, man, great, congrats on the details.

711
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 9: Man.

712
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: Actually, my favorite thing about your repertoire is your polka methleys.

713
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: And I'll say that the first time that I saw you,

714
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 1: not on Solid Gold or or MTV the Tonight Show,

715
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if you did you did poke yeah, yeah,

716
00:35:55,120 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 1: ye dog. That was the most jaw dropping. That's when

717
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: I started buying your albums, like you were just the

718
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: weird out guy and like, oh, the eaty guy whatever,

719
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: you know. But when I saw that, it that was fun.

720
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Speaker 10: I remember that we had to have the actual Tonight

721
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 10: Show band playing the horn section behind if they had

722
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 10: all the charts.

723
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's the thing, like you're not just the

724
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: parody guy, like you're these arrangements and and just the

725
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 1: clever nuances of like how you do on a lonely

726
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: heart with the clarinet arra stuff. Are you notating this

727
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: stuff on on scoring it or oh?

728
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 10: Yeah, absolutely? I mean now I use notation software, but

729
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 10: at the back, back then in the day, I just

730
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 10: would print out, uh you know, I wouldn't even print

731
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 10: out to go. I'd use the uh you know, the

732
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 10: staffs and just write it with with pencils right on there.

733
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Speaker 1: Okay, you can help me and Steve out on this

734
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: because I'm so okay, uh when you do uh the

735
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: bang your head man, Yeah, okay. The what is the

736
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: the hornhunk? That's what is that called. We we were

737
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: looking for it for least a half hour. It's a.

738
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 10: That's called the bulb horn. So it has a rubber

739
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 10: the rubber thing squeezed.

740
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: I was going through every like every time I couldn't google,

741
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 1: like I was. I was, oh god, I was looking

742
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: for her right for the longest.

743
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 10: And but that sounds pretty good.

744
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 3: I mean that was really sounds like a horn that

745
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 3: actually sounded. And there's small there's different sized ones too. Yeah,

746
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 3: obviously big one, really big one.

747
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 1: One. Yeah, Because I was going to go full scale

748
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: with the theme and do the sound effects. But I

749
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: wasted almost a half hour. It was four in the morning.

750
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: It's like going through every horn. Man.

751
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I have a question before you move on.

752
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: You're moving on from eat It, so on eat It.

753
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 8: Even though it's a parody song, it seemed like you

754
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 8: were taking the acting and the choreography and everything real seriously.

755
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 8: And I was wonderfing. I was wondering how long it

756
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 8: took you to to, you know, put on all that weight,

757
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 8: to do that, to do the part that was a

758
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 8: different video. I'll get back to when we're talking about fat.

759
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, let's go to Derby. I was trying

760
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 1: to make a joke.

761
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 3: That you actually gained the weight but ship.

762
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 10: Salads and I, you know, hit the ball.

763
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: No, I'm not hitting the bullhorn, but I am some wizo.

764
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 3: That's supposed to be when I say something.

765
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 1: Actually, was there to be stupid? Your first national tour?

766
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 10: I think I think that there. We did a national

767
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 10: tour in eighty four, which is kind of funny because

768
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 10: my first tour is eighty three. It was a very

769
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 10: small tour, and I think in eighty four I went

770
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 10: out with Doctor Demento as his opening act, and it

771
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 10: started with like Doctor Medow featuring Weird All Yankovic, and

772
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 10: the tour started before Edith came out, and we're on

773
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 10: the road and ed It comes out and it zooms

774
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 10: in the top twenty, and in the middle of the

775
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 10: tour it became the tour became Weird Out yank with doctor.

776
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: Wait was this so syndicated? It was?

777
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 10: He was nationally syndicated.

778
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Really.

779
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 10: He did a live show at Kamie Tea in Los Angeles,

780
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 10: and then he did a separate show syndicated out of

781
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 10: Westward One, which went to I forget how many markets,

782
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 10: but but all over the country.

783
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: Okay, so was there? I mean after just talk about

784
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: the pressure of life after eat it? Well, you became

785
00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: known as the eat It guy? Right, how did one?

786
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: How did life change? I think I saw a raw

787
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 1: footage of you even at the Purple Rain premiere?

788
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 5: Right?

789
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: Was that? Was that a star moment for you? It's

790
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: like Eddie Murphy came in, then Mars Day, then Weird

791
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: Al Yankovic and you have this whole like, I'm just

792
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: happy to be here.

793
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 10: I think you said, Yeah, everybody knew Prince could act,

794
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 10: but who knew he could sing?

795
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 9: So?

796
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 1: How how different was life after? Because you you captured

797
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: lightning in the bottle, like even you know your video

798
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: made Soul Train. Oh yeah, that was my favorite introduction

799
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: darker news is And now this is the closest that

800
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: we will ever get to Michael Jackson. This is weird

801
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: Al yank and eat it. Oh man, I was like, Wow,

802
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: weird Al is on Soul Train. That's amazing.

803
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 10: Well, I mean, the biggest change was that it was really,

804
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 10: in the true sense of the word overnight fame. I mean,

805
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 10: you hear about overnight things like that, and uh, it

806
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 10: really was overnight. I mean that the day that uh ed,

807
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 10: it went into heavy rotation on MTV, which is several

808
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 10: times a day. You know, people were recognizing me on

809
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 10: the streets. I'd be in the line at a fast

810
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 10: food or restaurant and people be staring at me like

811
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 10: this is odd. This has not happened before. And yeah,

812
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 10: all of a sudden, I was the eating guy and

813
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 10: that it just changed in an instant.

814
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: Would you look like weird Al Yankovic even off duty?

815
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: Like were you always in Hawaiian shirts?

816
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 10: I've always liked Hawaiian shirts, but certainly, certainly after I've

817
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 10: gained some notoriety, I kind of dressed down a bit

818
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 10: more in public. I tryed it to be too loud or.

819
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: Garish, started wearing hats, and I never, I never.

820
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 10: You know, went into the big disguises because then people

821
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 10: are like, oh, what's weird I'll do when we're like

822
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 10: a dark hat and dark glasses.

823
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: Wow? Uh So, how how our heart was it adjusting

824
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,959
Speaker 1: to a follow up record?

825
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 9: Like?

826
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 1: Was it? Is there such a thing as writer's black

827
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 1: for you know, for doing parody records?

828
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 10: Or oh? Yeah, I mean every every album I started

829
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 10: out with writer's block because like, oh, what I'm gonna

830
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 10: do now? Like, because like, you know, you don't want

831
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 10: to keep repeating yourself, and you know you want to

832
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 10: still be funny, and but you don't want to like

833
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 10: kind of rely on the same tropes and memes and

834
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 10: devices that you use before. You want to try to

835
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 10: find different ways to be funny.

836
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: But how is it that you don't want to be

837
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: pigeonholed as the comedian parody guy when you're the comedian

838
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: parody guy.

839
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 10: Well, I'm not saying I didn't want to be the

840
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 10: comedian parody guy. I mean I knew that parodies were

841
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 10: bread and butter, and I enjoyed doing them, and it

842
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 10: was I was wasn't trying to get away from that.

843
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 10: I just didn't want to, like, you know, it kind

844
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 10: of horrified me when my record label put out a

845
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,479
Speaker 10: compilation called the Food Album. Here's all else about food?

846
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 10: Maybe I should write so many songs about food?

847
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: You know, I was going to say, were they coming

848
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: to you like, okay, like you know, do more you

849
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: know food songs?

850
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 10: Well? No, they were basically you know the thing about

851
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 10: Scotti brothers. They were wonderful to me, but every fourth

852
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 10: quarter they'd go, you know, we could really use some

853
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 10: money for a bottom line. We're gonna put out a

854
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 10: compilation album like really another one, like here's all of

855
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,479
Speaker 10: Al's songs. They begin with the letter are.

856
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: That already so soon? There's like two records in you

857
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: already held?

858
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 10: But I'll tell you after two records, I don't think

859
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 10: they weren't talking about the greatest pits after two records,

860
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 10: but they were saying, like, how about a Christmas album?

861
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: Like really, I don't think so.

862
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 10: No, you know, they're looking for any way to quickly

863
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 10: cash in because they didn't know that I'd still be around,

864
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 10: you know, you know, thirty years later they were thinking like, okay,

865
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 10: you know, here's our cash car. Let's milk it.

866
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: Right. So on the opposite side of the fence were

867
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: there artists now giving you elevator pitches on how to

868
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: turn their songs into weirdolse songs.

869
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 10: By this point, I won't mention any names. It happened. No, no, no, no,

870
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,439
Speaker 10: I don't mean, but well, I've had people more often

871
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 10: more than giving me pitch, they would say like, when

872
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 10: you're gonna get rounded doing one of my songs?

873
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 7: Wow, this is almost like a sign like you made

874
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 7: it when yeah, yeah, if he covers his stuff like yeah,

875
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 7: you've officially arrived.

876
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:07,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

877
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 10: I think when I met Paul McCarney for the first

878
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 10: I mean he off handedly said that. I think he

879
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 10: was kind of joking, but still, you know, it kind

880
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 10: of blew my mind.

881
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: Did he tell you the scrambled eggs story? No, but

882
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: I didn't know that one. Okay, I was.

883
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 10: I was the first original for Yesterday. Yeah, that was

884
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 10: his original lyrics.

885
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, scrambled eggs.

886
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 10: Baby, hell, I love your legs whatever.

887
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I know that the Dare to be Stupid

888
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: tour for anyone that I know that, and to you

889
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 1: that was I really truly wish I'd seen this tour.

890
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 3: That's the one Jimmy always talked for.

891
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but no, I know, like ten other people

892
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: they're like, you know, the there to be stupid to

893
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: like what exactly happened on this tour that just changed

894
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: these people's lives. Not sure.

895
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 10: I mean every every tour got bigger and better up

896
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 10: until event I kind of felt kind of green, and

897
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 10: I think it kind of all clicked into place on

898
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 10: there to be stupid, because I've some YouTube videos of

899
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 10: me and concert in nineteen eighty four versus nineteen eighty five,

900
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 10: and there's definitely something that happened to like happened to

901
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 10: my confidence between those two years, because eighty four I

902
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 10: just seem a little manic and desperate, and in eighty

903
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 10: five I kind of, you know, feel like, Okay, I

904
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 10: know what I'm doing.

905
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: Here I go.

906
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 10: So there's probably something to that that the performances just

907
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 10: felt a little bit more, you know on point.

908
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: Okay, I want to go to Poka party and break

909
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 1: down your harmony game on Here's Johnny. Oh wow, yeah, no,

910
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: it's it's it's some serious shit, like you, I know,

911
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: you think that like these small minuscule things are like

912
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 1: over people's heads or whatever. No, but it's really art to.

913
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 10: It, like all about the minuscule things.

914
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: How But you're you're self produced, correct? Yeah?

915
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 10: I am now with the first six albums or Rick Derricter,

916
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 10: so he was officially producing.

917
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: At that time. Okay, do you I mean what was

918
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: the give and go relationship on that? Was he just

919
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: like do what you do out and I'll just well

920
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: he wasn't that. It's like when you and the movies,

921
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: like you know that sort of thing.

922
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I mean he was in charge of

923
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 10: the sound. I was walking in with all the arrangements

924
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 10: and things like that, and you know, Rick wasn't saying

925
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 10: we should have clarinet's here. It is sort of like

926
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 10: you know, that was that was my gig and he

927
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 10: would just make sure that that he he was sort

928
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 10: of like the director. He made sure that everything that

929
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 10: I did sounded as good as possible in the studio.

930
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: And matching, like for matching the patches and stuff like

931
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: is that you are you sizers? Yeah? Are you actively

932
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: going after these like same keyboards and the same drums

933
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 1: and those sort of things.

934
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 10: And within reason?

935
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean you know.

936
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 10: Oftentimes, if we have access to the original band or

937
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 10: the original band members will contact them and say, what

938
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 10: were the pickups on that guitar or what did you

939
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 10: you know, use for this particular thing.

940
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 6: Uh.

941
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 10: Sometimes, especially if it's an odd sample, we'll try to

942
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 10: figure out where that came from and see if we

943
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 10: can license that as well. So that's not all the time.

944
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 10: Sometimes we just wing it, but whenever we can, we

945
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 10: like to be as uh, you know, as official as possible.

946
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: Have you have you ever not blacked out but had

947
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: a great idea that you just couldn't make funny? You

948
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: you know, like you had a great title for line

949
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 1: of Richies all night long, but you couldn't.

950
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 10: I'm a pretty good judge of knowing if an idea

951
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 10: has potential, So if it might be some ideas might

952
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 10: be funny for like a throwaway gag, but they won't

953
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 10: be you know, funny for three minutes. So that and

954
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 10: sometimes in concert I would do a medley of those

955
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 10: kind of songs where like there's basically just one gag

956
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 10: to it, like oh here she comes, she's a spam eater,

957
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 10: Thank you good night, you know, and and that's sort

958
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 10: of like there's really not a whole lot more to

959
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 10: say after that. So all the ones that I wind

960
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 10: up making the parodies, I think, Okay, well I can

961
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 10: I can build on this, I can put layers to this,

962
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 10: and there's there's a direction to go. It's not just

963
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 10: like a one joke thing.

964
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: How many were these the Grammys that you won? Were

965
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: they for comedy recordings or for polka or.

966
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 10: They were comedy? They were different ones though, the first

967
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 10: one was for Comedy Recording, and that was an odd

968
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 10: category because it was singles competing against albums, which it

969
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 10: seemed like apple and orgous to me. But that's how

970
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 10: they did it back they how really yeah, because they

971
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 10: eat it one. They eat it single and one against

972
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 10: like Rodney Dangerfield album and Eddie Murphy's album like how

973
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 10: do how do you really?

974
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 1: I think I might have Sorry, it depends. How could

975
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: it be? How could it be? The singing album? Yeah?

976
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: That was a comedy record?

977
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 6: Was uh?

978
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,360
Speaker 10: Then eighty The next one was eighty eight, and that

979
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 10: was for Better Concept Music Video, which was a category

980
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 10: that I think only lasted a few years. But I

981
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 10: won that for fat for Best Concept Music Video, which

982
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 10: I'm not sure exactly what that means, but I got

983
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 10: to win the Grammy. Then I won for Best Comedy

984
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 10: Album for Poodle Hat in two thousand and three and

985
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:16,760
Speaker 10: for Mandatory Fun.

986
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 1: A couple of years ago. We year did UHF come

987
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: out eighty nine? Okay, so that's after even worse. Yeah. Yeah,

988
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: I was about to say by this point, where other

989
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: avenues calling you to do certain things as far as

990
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: like television.

991
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 10: Well, since you brought that up, you know, I had

992
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 10: to make a very hard call talking about a UHF.

993
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 10: The summer of nineteen eighty eight is when we were

994
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:48,280
Speaker 10: scheduled to shoot my movie UHF. And that was also

995
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 10: when Michael Jackson wanted me to open Foreman as the

996
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 10: European tour.

997
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: Wait what what? Yeah? We got? I got He was

998
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: really a fan of yours. Yeah, yeah, he liked it.

999
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 10: He liked the whole thing.

1000
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 1: I mean past like I'm really flat about my music.

1001
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: I mean like, did he buy your records? And did

1002
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: he laugh at he?

1003
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 10: He tells me he used to show UHF at the

1004
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 10: Neverland Ranch to his guests. He told me, well, when

1005
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,919
Speaker 10: we did the fat video, that was actually Michael Jackson's set.

1006
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 10: He actually let us use his set to shoot that video.

1007
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: Off that you went to Hoyt and skimmer Horn Inland.

1008
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 10: Now, that's because it was great because that that set

1009
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 10: was built in Culver City and it was for the kids.

1010
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 10: Remember he did like the baby bad when he did

1011
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 10: the Moon video. So the set was like at nine

1012
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,320
Speaker 10: tenth scale to make the kids look a little bigger.

1013
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 10: But also great for the fat video because I made

1014
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:43,240
Speaker 10: the fat Yeah, sooth that set? Yep, yeah, wait a minute,

1015
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 10: because we knew the set was still there and they're

1016
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 10: about to tear it down and we're like, no, no, no,

1017
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 10: don't tear it down. We want to use it. And

1018
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 10: they're like, okay, cool wait.

1019
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: Old boy from House Party made me some dig great.

1020
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: Ludy Washington, Yeah, yeah, ding dong Man.

1021
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 10: Yeah, Ludy was great. He was also in the in

1022
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 10: UHF in the movie he played the cameraman of that

1023
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 10: really yeah, oh man, so funny.

1024
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: Loudy Washington.

1025
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 7: Yeah, you don't remember from like the Robert Towns in Speciality.

1026
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I didn't. You guys. You two are the

1027
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: we read credits and we read the line of notes

1028
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. Were you hesitant to revisit Michael

1029
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: Jackson a second time around? Or was it just too

1030
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: irresistible a little bit.

1031
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 10: I mean it was sort of low hanging fruit. But

1032
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 10: at the same time, it's sort of like Michael Jackson was,

1033
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 10: so you know, I'm the president in the eighties, it

1034
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 10: was sort of like, you know, how could you not

1035
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 10: do Michael? If I didn't do you know, a parody

1036
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 10: on Bad, people were like, how can we're not doing

1037
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 10: that bad?

1038
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: Or I'm bad.

1039
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 10: It's sort of like and and that was one of

1040
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,439
Speaker 10: those cases where, uh, you know, like I said, usually

1041
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 10: I think like a hundred different variations on a theme

1042
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 10: and I like analyze it to death. But I remember

1043
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 10: the first time I saw the the Bad video, saw

1044
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 10: the World premiere, and before the video is even over,

1045
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 10: I said, I'm doing fat It's gotta be fatting. Yeah,

1046
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 10: Like you're gonna have these huge people trying to get

1047
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 10: through a turnstyle only quite get through.

1048
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: It's gonna be great. Nothing.

1049
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 3: I must have been watching You must have been watching

1050
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 3: world premiere videos back then.

1051
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, Like you had to stay on top of

1052
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:24,800
Speaker 10: the zeitgeist.

1053
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 1: So as far as Turnaround is concerned, like it's the

1054
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: same that the Internet wasn't around back in the eighties

1055
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: for you to turn things over in record times, So

1056
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: for you, was there sort of an expiration date on

1057
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 1: ideas like I have to have this out within the

1058
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: next four months.

1059
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 10: Or yeah, I mean, I mean cause it's like a

1060
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 10: two month turnaround between like having the master done and

1061
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 10: having a record in stores. And they sometimes they can,

1062
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 10: if they really want to, they can bump it a

1063
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 10: couple of weeks, but it's still like, certainly more than

1064
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 10: a month.

1065
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 1: Uh.

1066
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 10: And that's if you have an album done, Like if

1067
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 10: I have a if I want to do a parody,

1068
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,720
Speaker 10: and the album's like not even close to being finished,

1069
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 10: it's like, well, this isn't gonna come out for several months,

1070
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 10: which is why I generally, you know, the way I

1071
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 10: usually do it is I record an entire album except

1072
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 10: for one track, and I wait for what I perceived

1073
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 10: to be like, yeah, the big one, like here's a

1074
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 10: big single, here's a big video, but and the rest

1075
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 10: of the album just sort of like in the can

1076
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 10: waiting to go.

1077
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,720
Speaker 1: Oh, so all the other non parody ideas get.

1078
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 10: Right right, uh, and and hopefully those those are all

1079
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 10: songs that you know, uh, people will still remember and

1080
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 10: they'll still be funny. But but back then the things

1081
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 10: have changed nowadays, but back then it really was all

1082
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 10: about here's a single driving the album because you know, uh,

1083
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 10: regardless of whether radio got behind it, MTV would would

1084
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 10: play it. And you know, if you had a big

1085
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 10: hit on MTV, you had a big hit album, what.

1086
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: In your concert? What is your unlikely? Uh, I'm gonna

1087
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: see this. You're you're a free bird, Like, what's the

1088
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: what's the the non single? There was one song that

1089
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: we actually did on the show that I was shocked

1090
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:15,240
Speaker 1: at Jimmy because I wanted to do uh hooked on Poker.

1091
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: But then thankfully I realized that song was way too

1092
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: complex for a Stephen to even conquer it. But I

1093
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: forgot the It's a slow song that's on either someone

1094
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: drowns Now, got to look it up.

1095
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 10: But is a ballad?

1096
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a ballad?

1097
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 10: Is it you Don't Love Me Anymore? No?

1098
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: No, it hang it's hang on. It's definitely on Drey

1099
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: to be stupid song, but as a sort of twisted

1100
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,720
Speaker 1: not is it a parody?

1101
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 9: No?

1102
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no it isn't. It's Oh god, I

1103
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: hate this moment. I'm having a brain for it because

1104
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: we rehearsed it in the we did it as an

1105
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: Internet extra song.

1106
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 10: Oh you mean good old Days? Yes, oh that was

1107
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 10: off of even worse.

1108
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, good old Like what is what is your

1109
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: your free bird? When people are yelling like what's a

1110
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: fan favorite?

1111
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 10: There's not just like one song. I mean there's not

1112
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 10: like one song everybody's into. There's like a half a

1113
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 10: dozen parodies that that are sort of like the big

1114
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 10: hits that that people basically come to expect. In terms

1115
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 10: of original songs. I think probably the biggest fan favorite

1116
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 10: is there to be Stupid, and that's maybe partly because

1117
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 10: he was used in the original Transformers movie and people

1118
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 10: have affection for that.

1119
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so for you, I guess as well. I

1120
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: want to get to the Coolio's scenario. I was gonna say,

1121
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: besides Coolil, was there anyone that had indifference to the

1122
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: to a cover that they previously approved but then they

1123
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 1: didn't like or not really?

1124
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 10: I mean, I've never after somebody who's approved the parody.

1125
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 10: I've never heard back afterwards that they were disappointed.

1126
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 6: I think.

1127
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 10: Well that I heard on behind the music. I think

1128
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 10: Flea was like not that thrilled with a red hot

1129
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 10: Chili Peppers. Praider is like, yeah, it was okay.

1130
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, wait which song it was about? The Flintstones. Yeah,

1131
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: I love that.

1132
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 10: He he didn't dislike it was sort of like a math.

1133
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, I mean, once you're covered, then

1134
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: you're you know, you're immortalized. You're super immortalized. So for you,

1135
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: what is what's the the daily preparation of your band

1136
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: and your tour and that sort of.

1137
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 10: Thing, like, well, there's no like, you know, typical day,

1138
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 10: you know, my my life at home and my life

1139
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 10: on the road or completely different realities. And uh uh

1140
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 10: when I'm on tour, I basically try not to use

1141
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 10: my voice up I can help it, because I've gotten learyingitis.

1142
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 10: I totally lost my voice on tour before, and that's

1143
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,439
Speaker 10: not pleasant because if you lose your voice, I mean really,

1144
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 10: the only cure is not talking for a week, and

1145
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 10: you can't do that if you have to do a

1146
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 10: two hour show every night. So I'm very careful, uh

1147
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 10: you know, stay out of air conditioning, stay at a

1148
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 10: smoky rooms. I just try to use my voice as

1149
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 10: infrequently as possible. So basically after the show, go back

1150
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 10: to the bus, uh you know, probably surf the internet

1151
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 10: for a few hours. And then when I wake up,

1152
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 10: we're already traveling to the next city, and I just,

1153
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 10: you know, try not to talk until the sound check.

1154
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: So do you turn off the air conditioning on stage? No? No, no, no, no,

1155
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: that's that's a Marintha frame.

1156
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 10: People. Now, I don't want to make the whole world uncomfortable.

1157
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 10: I just you know, just the back of the bus.

1158
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I see, as far as your h the

1159
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:15,439
Speaker 1: ritual of I'm having a brain fart moment right.

1160
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 3: Now, can you make that fart sound with you?

1161
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 10: No?

1162
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: The uh damn. The as far as your your your

1163
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: your sets are concerned, and because I know now it's

1164
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: you do these elaborate changes and all those things like

1165
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: how full scale is are your concert performances?

1166
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 10: Well, they have been very full scale. I mean I

1167
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 10: could love to get you out to a show sometime,

1168
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 10: but it was you know, it becomes sort of like

1169
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 10: almost like a like a Broadway show in that there's

1170
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 10: costumes and props and uh, everything was timed out to

1171
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 10: the second. Like you know, I do a big song

1172
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 10: with full costumes, and then we play a video on

1173
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 10: a big screen on stage, which is just long enough

1174
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,439
Speaker 10: for us to write backstage and do a costume change

1175
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 10: and come back up for the next song. So it's

1176
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 10: it's as much spectacle in theater as we could put

1177
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 10: into a live show. Having said that, the next tour,

1178
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 10: which is starting the end of February, we're not doing

1179
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 10: any of that for the first time, and you know, ever,

1180
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 10: we're going out and just just playing songs, no costumes,

1181
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,479
Speaker 10: no props, and we're playing the deep cuts. We're playing,

1182
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 10: not playing the hits. We're playing like say what, yeah, totally,

1183
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 10: it's called the ridiculously I'm gonna mess it up, the

1184
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 10: ridiculously self indulgent, ill advised Vanity Tour. And yeah, we're

1185
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 10: not playing the hits. We're playing all the obscure, you know,

1186
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 10: deep cuts and B sides and stuff that you'd never

1187
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 10: expect us to play live. And we're doing a different

1188
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 10: show every single night, which is fun for us because

1189
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 10: when we do the normal show, it has to by definition,

1190
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 10: it has to be the same exact show because it's

1191
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 10: all calculated. But the next tour is going to be

1192
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 10: wildly different from night to night.

1193
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: So when you're saying no hits, so you won't be

1194
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 1: doing teen Spirit or eat It or do you, we

1195
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: still do eat it in concert.

1196
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, not the whole song, but part of a medley.

1197
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so it's just strictly the non parody things or.

1198
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, we might throw in a couple of surprises, but

1199
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 10: you you should definitely not come to the tour expecting

1200
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 10: to hear the hits because it's really all about the

1201
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 10: stuff that nobody wants to hear. I want to do

1202
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 10: an audience displeasing show.

1203
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I mean, well, I'm not saying Costello did that,

1204
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: but he did the.

1205
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 10: Wheel. Yeah, yeah, that was very cool.

1206
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, my friend just told me to do a cover

1207
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 3: of a radio radio.

1208
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 10: You know, we do that whenever something screws up, which

1209
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 10: didn't happen hardly at all in the last tour, but

1210
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 10: there were some tours where we were having problems with

1211
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 10: the computer server. And the computer server you know, does

1212
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 10: the video and it does whatever click tracks we're using,

1213
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 10: and it's an integral part of the show, and if

1214
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 10: there's a hiccup or if something goes wrong, you know,

1215
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 10: it's a train wreck. And sometimes when that happens, instead

1216
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 10: of just you know, standing on state stupidly, we go

1217
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 10: into radio radio like ladies and gentlemen there's no reason

1218
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 10: to play this.

1219
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 3: I get it. You don't change the words to computer,

1220
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:10,479
Speaker 3: just a straight version.

1221
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: How extensive will the tour be?

1222
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 10: Uh, We're we're doing like seventy five seventy six dates.

1223
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 10: The show Emo Phillips is opening for us, which is Woo.

1224
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 10: So he's doing half an hour. My band was doing

1225
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 10: like ninety minutes, and Uh, it's gonna be. I'm really

1226
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 10: looking forward to it and I'll get to it. We

1227
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 10: want to really intimate vibe. It's gonna be. I want

1228
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 10: it to be kind of like a hanging out in

1229
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 10: your living room vibe, you know, like like everybody in

1230
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 10: the in the audience just sort of in your living room.

1231
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 10: And we're just kind of being very you know, casual

1232
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 10: and uh, you know, spontaneous, because because my shows are

1233
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 10: not normally spontaneous, they don't normally like chat with the audience.

1234
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 10: And so I don't just want this one to And

1235
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 10: I'm a little lot of sut of my comfort zone

1236
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 10: because I like annoying in advance what I'm going to say.

1237
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 10: But I'm trying to break out of that and just

1238
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 10: you know, just trying to try to hang.

1239
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 1: You're trying to challenge yourself a little bit. Is that

1240
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: arable your tours? Is it just national for the United

1241
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: States or.

1242
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 10: It's a world tour? Playing Canada too, I've.

1243
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: Ever done other Like how do you fare in other countries?

1244
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 10: Canada very well?

1245
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 1: All right, Saskatchewan? Yeah, yeah, Yeah.

1246
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 10: Australia is a good market for US. We played there

1247
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 10: three or four times. Uh, And and pockets of Europe.

1248
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 10: We did a couple of small European tours and I

1249
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 10: definitely have some fans over there, But North America is

1250
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 10: really the main market.

1251
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 11: When was the moment that you knew since you you

1252
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 11: dive into so many genres, like at this point, you're

1253
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 11: a treasure to all kinds of communities, all kinds of music.

1254
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 11: Was there a moment when you knew it and you

1255
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 11: felt it like, oh, I'm not like the other kids.

1256
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: I can do this, I can do that.

1257
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:56,439
Speaker 10: I can go here like before my career, like during

1258
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 10: your career.

1259
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, because you I mean from hip hop to country

1260
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 11: to good to pop to rock to grunge. Yeah, and

1261
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 11: nobody says no, you don't belong here. Everybody is like

1262
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 11: he's ours.

1263
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 10: It's hard to say. I mean I first kind of

1264
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 10: felt the fame during the you know, the N three

1265
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 10: D and edit days. But I don't think I really

1266
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 10: kind of felt like the mass acceptance until about ten

1267
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 10: years ago, because people kept waiting for me to go away, like, oh,

1268
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 10: weird All was still hanging around. What's he doing here?

1269
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 10: I checked up because everybody thought, you know, that I

1270
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 10: was just some kind of phase that you know, people

1271
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 10: are gonna get tired of, and some people did. But

1272
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 10: I mean, in general, I was able to maintain some

1273
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 10: semblance of a career since the early eighties, and it

1274
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 10: wasn't until about ten years ago. People are like, oh,

1275
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 10: I grew up with weird Out, Like really, okay.

1276
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 12: Nah, seriously, no, this is like a direct You're a

1277
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 12: direct link to my childhood, like straight up, like just everything.

1278
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 12: When you did the Amish Paradise, First off, where did

1279
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 12: that idea come from?

1280
01:03:58,040 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 3: Dude?

1281
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 10: Well, it's funny. I I was trying to think of

1282
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 10: an idea for for for Gangster's Paradise and uh and uh.

1283
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 10: When I as soon as the thought Amish Paradise came

1284
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 10: into my mind, I thought the idea was so good

1285
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 10: it made me depressed. I thought that was perfect because

1286
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 10: like the Amish lifestyle is the is diametrically opposed the

1287
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 10: gangs the lifestyle. So to see homage people acting like gangsters,

1288
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 10: I thought was just hilarious and I thought I can

1289
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 10: definitely do this, And it made me depressed because as

1290
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 10: soon as I thought of that, I thought, Okay, the

1291
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 10: machine is gonna, you know, snap into action. Now now

1292
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 10: I have to write it, and now now I have

1293
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 10: to like book video time, we have to like figure

1294
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 10: out the release date. And I just saw my whole

1295
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 10: like next six months ahead and be like, okay, we're

1296
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 10: doing this.

1297
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: Come on, whose idea was it? I don't know who

1298
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 1: directed it.

1299
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 7: The scene where all the sweat is pouring off your.

1300
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 10: Head I directed the video?

1301
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, because that was.

1302
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 12: Something that I always noticed in the original Singer l

1303
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 12: V where he was sweating.

1304
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then to see I was like, yo, he

1305
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 1: caught it too.

1306
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 11: Her conditioning and Florence Henderson, yes, yes, was she like

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01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 11: your first? Just what was the approach to her and.

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01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 10: How did you get her to In all truth, we

1309
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 10: did ask Michelle fire for first, because she was okay,

1310
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 10: and then I obviously Florence Henderson gets all the work

1311
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 10: that Michelle Fifer turns down. So we went to her second,

1312
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 10: and she was amazing. She was like, you know, she

1313
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 10: really was into it. She was like sucking in her cheeks,

1314
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 10: like Michelle, just really really going for it.

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Speaker 1: What was the what was the issue and what was

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01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 1: Coolio's problem with the song?

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Speaker 12: And how did that even get to be a thing,

1318
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:40,880
Speaker 12: because did you have to approve it from him first

1319
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 12: or did you have to approach him first to put

1320
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 12: the song?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

1322
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 10: I mean, like I said, I always get permission. And

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01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 10: unfortunately I'll never to this day know really what happened

1324
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 10: because it's it's very he said she said kind of thing.

1325
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 10: My record label at the time told me that they

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01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 10: talked to Coolio and that he okayd uh. And then

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Speaker 10: after the fact, uh, you know, Coolia made a public

1328
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 10: statements saying that he never approved it and that he

1329
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 10: was essentially offended by it. And it was it was

1330
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 10: horrible because you know, I, you know, I like my

1331
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:11,200
Speaker 10: track record of not upsetting anybody and having good relationships.

1332
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 10: So that was uh, And clearly it was fine now,

1333
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 10: by the way, but there are a number of years

1334
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 10: that there was you know, I don't say bad blood,

1335
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 10: but you know I kind of kept my distance so coolly.

1336
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 1: I fell some type of way. But t I he

1337
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:22,400
Speaker 1: was cool.

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01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, no, he was great.

1339
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 11: Yeah, tell me about the the t F hitch. And

1340
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 11: I'm sure he was over the roof because he probably

1341
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:29,919
Speaker 11: is like us. He's a child, he was a child

1342
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 11: and fan of viewers.

1343
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 10: But I'm not sure about that. I mean, I don't

1344
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 10: have a really personal story about that. That was one

1345
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 10: of those kind of things where like I told my

1346
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 10: manager why wanted to do, and he contacted t I

1347
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 10: S people and it came back that he was cool

1348
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 10: with it.

1349
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 11: Damn, I wonder what your percentage rate is of that.

1350
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 10: I will say that was part of my pitch to

1351
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 10: uh familiona no no, no A fancy.

1352
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 7: H yourself fancy Uh, I can't remember.

1353
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 10: I'm blanking yes no no, no no, no, Ziggy, I'm

1354
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 10: so big sorry, I'm so sorry.

1355
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Speaker 1: So we forgot it.

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01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 10: But but that was that was one where I couldn't

1357
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 10: I couldn't get permission through their management. Uh, we weren't

1358
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 10: getting through and and the I was like one song

1359
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 10: away from finishing mandatory fun and I wanted to do

1360
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 10: uh my period of fantasy because fantasy was sort of

1361
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 10: like the song of the Summer, like I just you

1362
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 10: know we have a release date. I want to record this,

1363
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 10: but we don't have permission, and nobody was getting through.

1364
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 10: And finally I basically had a stalker. I had to

1365
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 10: I said, Oh, she's doing a concert in Denver, Colorado.

1366
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 10: Was like, I'm flying there, and I flew to Denver

1367
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 10: and I hung out backstage and literally as she was

1368
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 10: walking off stage, and said, hey, it's weird, al I

1369
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 10: really love to.

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01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 1: Do a pretty good Does she know who you were?

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01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 10: I think so. I think it's hard to say, but

1372
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 10: I think so.

1373
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 1: And she said, well, just so loose to me that

1374
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: I wouldn't imagine that I wouldn't.

1375
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 10: She said, you know, i'd have to see the lyrics first,

1376
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 10: and I said, well, actually happened to happen. And I

1377
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:03,800
Speaker 10: put them in front of her, and while she was

1378
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 10: reading it, I said, you know, t I was cool

1379
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 10: with it. That was because you know.

1380
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: That the most extreme that you had to travel to

1381
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: get it might be.

1382
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,640
Speaker 10: I mean, yeah, I don't think I've ever gotten on

1383
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 10: a plane to get permission them from somebody before.

1384
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 11: But wait, but wait, because as I'm looking at this

1385
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:28,719
Speaker 11: video for Tacky, I'm like, so and the other people

1386
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 11: that you had My man from Modern Family and Eric.

1387
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 10: Stones Street and Jack Black and Kristin Shaw and Margaret Show.

1388
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 11: When you asked them, I'm sure they were like, hell

1389
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 11: fucking yeah, I'm sorry, but right like, tell me what

1390
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 11: was there?

1391
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:44,560
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I was kind of went through my

1392
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 10: address book and I picked some of my friends and

1393
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 10: and everybody that was available on that day. We're happy

1394
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 10: to do it. That was the most fun I've ever

1395
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 10: had doing a video. It was just such a blouch.

1396
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 10: I mean, that was what we got done so quickly.

1397
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 10: I was almost sad. It was like, I wish you

1398
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 10: could do this all night long. This was so fun.

1399
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 1: That's dope.

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01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 12: How did you approach doing the r Kelly Trapped in

1401
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 12: the Man? Because that was I mean, that was one

1402
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 12: of the moments I'll say, like you've been Because I'm

1403
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 12: a person, I work. I do a lot of work

1404
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 12: like in TV, and I do like musical parodies and

1405
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 12: stuff for shoor whatever. And the thing that I think

1406
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 12: listen to your music has taught me is that in

1407
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 12: order for something to be funny, it has to be good.

1408
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 12: Like so if you're gonna parody something, you've gotta really

1409
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 12: be singing it, and like you really gotta go. You's

1410
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 12: gotta it's gotta be believable. And the thing with all

1411
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 12: your stuff is that it always it's funny. But if

1412
01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 12: you just listen to that song, it's like, Yo, this

1413
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 12: motherfucker's really singing, Like even like the harmonies from the

1414
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 12: uh the Joint to the Other Night. Yeah, Johnny, it

1415
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 12: was like, Yo, he really singing and ship. So when

1416
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 12: I heard the Trapped in the Closet was.

1417
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 1: Trapp drive through. That's what.

1418
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 12: Trapped in the Closet is a song that is probably

1419
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 12: a parody in itself.

1420
01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: So for you to do it, like what what is it?

1421
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 10: Well, yeah, that was a tough one to do because

1422
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 10: that was one of those things. Trapped in the Closet

1423
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 10: was just such a monumental composition. It was sort of like,

1424
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 10: you know, it was such a thing that again it

1425
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 10: was sort of like, you know, if Riddell doesn't do

1426
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 10: anything with this, like what what's he thinking? But at

1427
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 10: the same time, it's it was so weird anyway, like

1428
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 10: where do you go with it? You can't really make

1429
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 10: it more bizarre or more ridiculous, So well, you know,

1430
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,839
Speaker 10: the humor of opposite, I'll just make it as boring

1431
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 10: and banal and motinous and mundane as I possibly can,

1432
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 10: and just make it about eleven minutes about like a

1433
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 10: couple discussing what they want to do for dinner, you know,

1434
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 10: and but still keeping all the drama, keeping all the

1435
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 10: high drama of the original, but making about something ridiculously stupid.

1436
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 3: Man, Nah, you you definitely you know that that shit

1437
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 3: was hilarious.

1438
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 7: I haven't quite figured out how this idea but would work.

1439
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:52,600
Speaker 7: But have you ever considered doing a duet's album? I

1440
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 7: was gonna ask, have you ever did any collaborations?

1441
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 10: Not as such, I mean that my first single was

1442
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 10: sort of a duet with because I did a song

1443
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 10: called Ricky, which was me being Ricky Ricardo. I thought, no, no, no,

1444
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 10: that was Tress McNeil, who now is like one of

1445
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 10: the most famous voiceover artists in the world. I mean

1446
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 10: she's on Animaniac, she's on Simpsons, I mean she's like

1447
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 10: one of the top people. But at the time she

1448
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 10: was new in la I mean brand new, and we

1449
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 10: put out an ad in some music papers saying we're

1450
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 10: looking for somebody to impersonate Lucille Ball, to somebody who

1451
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 10: singing like Lucille Ball, And we got literally two responses

1452
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 10: and one of the most.

1453
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 1: Trusts getting backstage paper and yeah.

1454
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:41,000
Speaker 10: It was one of those kind of things. And she

1455
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 10: came in. She was great, and she played Lucy in

1456
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:44,680
Speaker 10: the video as well. That's the same person that does

1457
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 10: it on the record, And unfortunately she couldn't tour with us,

1458
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 10: so whenever, you know, it was kind of weird because

1459
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 10: during that first tour, our big single, we couldn't do live,

1460
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 10: so we basically just played the video. I think back

1461
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,640
Speaker 10: then it was like on a sixteen millimeter projector like

1462
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:02,600
Speaker 10: and here's our video. Really we couldn't. We couldn't, you know,

1463
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 10: costume have my drummer, like, you know, we couldn't have

1464
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 10: them trying to do trust part.

1465
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 1: That's the costume change time. Yeah, said Terry Bozio did

1466
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:11,639
Speaker 1: it with friend Zappa.

1467
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,560
Speaker 11: Anything that happen you ever think of doing other not

1468
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 11: that I would assume to have known that you haven't,

1469
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 11: but other genres. There any other genres that you would

1470
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 11: like to dip into?

1471
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 10: Like, is there a reggae weird there is? I mean

1472
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 10: I've covered most of the there's I'm sure there's something

1473
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 10: I haven't yet, but yeah, I did a reggae song

1474
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 10: called buy Me a Condo. It's sort of like a

1475
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 10: Bob Marley ish kind of like a like a like

1476
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 10: a Jamaican yuppie song.

1477
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 1: And some of the new genres I was about to say,

1478
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 1: you wrapped you have you wrapped your head around trap

1479
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 1: music yet? And mumble culture?

1480
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 10: So some some genres are a little bit harder to

1481
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 10: uh to parody because there there's not enough uh words.

1482
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 10: Raw materiy, Yeah, like eight m would be fun to do,

1483
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 10: but you know, you can't be too repetitive, or.

1484
01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 13: Maybe you could just do poka covers of them that's

1485
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 13: true to what I do, Like you know depasito you know, yes, yes, yes, yeah,

1486
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 13: I would like to on according.

1487
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 1: And like no payoff when you get to the top,

1488
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 1: no dry Yeah, I would love that. Have you ever

1489
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 1: have there been any pitches for you to do uh

1490
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 1: like kids shows or children's show? Yeah.

1491
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 10: I did a children's show in the late nineties called

1492
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 10: The Weird Al Show on CBS. It was like ninety

1493
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 10: ninety seven, ninety eight something like that. But yeah, it

1494
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 10: was on for one season, thirteen shows.

1495
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 1: I was also twenty six years old.

1496
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,560
Speaker 10: Yeah, show you weren't the chord?

1497
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll tell you what TV show I would like

1498
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 7: to see back, come back, and that's ALTV.

1499
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 1: Oh thank you.

1500
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, I used to love those specials. It used to

1501
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 7: be like almost one Like whenever you put put out a.

1502
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 10: New album, it was a people some people, I used

1503
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 10: to watch your old series like it wasn't a series

1504
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 10: or like a special that I would be like every year,

1505
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 10: every whatever, I had an album to promote. Really, uh,

1506
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 10: but MTV would play play them a lot.

1507
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, those are brilliant. To interviews, the fake interviews, Yeah,

1508
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 7: I used to those.

1509
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 10: Take levels of interviews out of context and play as

1510
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 10: sorts of random, weird videos. I mean that was back

1511
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 10: in the day, you know, when MTV would, uh, first

1512
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 10: of all, they play videos like this, Yeah.

1513
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 1: I'm proud he interviewed Prince where you know Prince did someone?

1514
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, hey could you do your like this? Prince?

1515
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 10: What do you think about this beach ball? It's multi

1516
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 10: colored and it's very fun. It's just just stuff like that.

1517
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 10: But yeah, I mean that was in the days when

1518
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 10: MTV kind of you know, was free formed. They're very

1519
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 10: gorilla and to some extent they didn't care. They're like, oh, well,

1520
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 10: you've got this four hours just do whatever you want.

1521
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 10: I would I did whatever I wanted for four hours.

1522
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 1: And I would watch all four hours.

1523
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 10: They gave me no money, but they said do whatever

1524
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 10: you want and and and UH kind of went nuts.

1525
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 1: It was like, I said, I love those questions. How

1526
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 1: come you didn't pursue more movies after Uh?

1527
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 10: I would have liked to have done more movies, but

1528
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 10: the crushing failure of my first movie kind of dampened every.

1529
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 1: But it's almost why do you think it failed? I

1530
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 1: mean it was funny, I mean, why do you think

1531
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 1: it didn't?

1532
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's hard to say. I mean, critics, you know,

1533
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 10: generally hated it. Ciskel and Ebra thought I was the

1534
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 10: anti christ I think, and it came out. You know,

1535
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:31,760
Speaker 10: this is sort of an excuse, but it's it's also true.

1536
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 10: It came out in the middle of one of the

1537
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 10: biggest blockbuster summers ever. So it came out while you know,

1538
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 10: Batman and Lethal Weapon and honeyt Shrunk the Kids and

1539
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 10: Do the Right Thing, and you know, a bunch of

1540
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:41,719
Speaker 10: stuff was out at the same time. So it would

1541
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 10: have done a lot better if it had come out

1542
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 10: during a slower time of the year. But you know,

1543
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 10: there's there's no telling. I mean, I'm just very happily

1544
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 10: happy that you know, it's found its audience and now

1545
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 10: it's at least got cult status.

1546
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 1: No, it definitely has that.

1547
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,759
Speaker 3: When was Ala Palooza, uh.

1548
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 10: Nineteen ninety three?

1549
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 3: I have an autographed copy of that CD? Somehow cool?

1550
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 1: Somehow? So do you often meet I mean the way

1551
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 1: that like cats come up to me like, yo, man,

1552
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 1: God's been if you bars well? You know, like people

1553
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 1: are always trying to I'm certain that every night there's

1554
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 1: someone that when you're doing in stores and autographs and

1555
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 1: of the like, that someone saying like, hey, the new

1556
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 1: you or that sort of thing.

1557
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 10: Like they they always try to give me ideas like

1558
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 10: you know, what you should do? And it's always some

1559
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 10: awful parody idea that they thought of in the third grade.

1560
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 10: But they were just waiting for their chance to meet me.

1561
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 10: You know, tell them this a great idea, how do

1562
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,719
Speaker 10: you parody from the eighties that it'll see great?

1563
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:44,719
Speaker 1: How do you laugh?

1564
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 10: And moretfully, Oh yeah, that's not answers. I'll get right

1565
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:48,640
Speaker 10: to work on that.

1566
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 1: They want to do that. No, No, no, I member

1567
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 1: people that meet you and say that you know, I

1568
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 1: too want to be in the same because the thing

1569
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 1: is is like there's one weird out and you've literally

1570
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 1: shut you shut it down for anyone trying to come.

1571
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,560
Speaker 1: I mean there's some like morning shows that do you

1572
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:11,639
Speaker 1: know things on radio.

1573
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,600
Speaker 10: But the thing is, nowadays there's YouTube, there's avenues for

1574
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:16,679
Speaker 10: people to get their stuff out there. When when I started,

1575
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 10: it was sort of a mystery, like how do you

1576
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 10: penetrate this black box of you know of on TV?

1577
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 10: And then it was, you know a little bit harder

1578
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 10: to navigate.

1579
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 1: You have like high humor and your level of humor

1580
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:36,839
Speaker 1: and your pinning game is past just you know, twisting

1581
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 1: a verb, a nown and a verb. Yeah. So it's

1582
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 1: it's like, are you have you thought about like, is

1583
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:51,799
Speaker 1: there anyone out there like that you like to produce

1584
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 1: that's the next weird hour?

1585
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 10: Gosh, why the next word?

1586
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 1: You know?

1587
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 10: Coming up? I mean there's a lot of people that

1588
01:17:56,320 --> 01:18:00,080
Speaker 10: do funny music. I love Lonely Island, Tenacious, Deep of

1589
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 10: the Concord, and there's a lot of people doing great,

1590
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:05,640
Speaker 10: great comedy stuff. As far as coming up, you know,

1591
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 10: I don't know, there's a lot of funny people, uh

1592
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 10: on YouTube. Brandy Rainbow is really funny. You know, I

1593
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 10: I don't know about producing other other acts. I mean

1594
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 10: i'd be I'd entertained that idea, I guess, but I

1595
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 10: don't know. Well we'll see on that one.

1596
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 3: America. Can you tell the story or why don't you

1597
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 3: tell the story about the Dyla sample with the.

1598
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no, with no it's yeah, you're

1599
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 1: thinking of accordion, Yeah exactly.

1600
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 3: I don't even know what I'm.

1601
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 1: Asking, but yeah, yeah, no, one of my favorite momes.

1602
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 1: Do you ever wash you? It actually made pitchwork, which

1603
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 1: is weird. It's like the nicest thing Pitchwork said about

1604
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 1: me twenty thirteen. No you you you playing uh uh

1605
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 1: accords accordion, which you know that that was brilliant.

1606
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 3: No, but you're not telling the like for the listeners

1607
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 3: like me who don't really know.

1608
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 1: But wasn't no, no, no, it wasn't a weird ol song.

1609
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 1: It's just that when Weird Out came on the Tonight Show,

1610
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 1: he has an Accordian. I was like, yo, we have

1611
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 1: to do Uh what was the project Mall Villain? The

1612
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 1: Mad Villain cover of Accordion, which is basically a song

1613
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 1: that's looped over in according Actually what I found that loop. Yeah,

1614
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 1: it's it is wow.

1615
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:32,759
Speaker 11: Do you know what they're talking about?

1616
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 10: I do, absolutely.

1617
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:35,680
Speaker 1: He was there with me.

1618
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 10: I kind of jammed on that for all. I gotta

1619
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 10: tell you, man that some of my favorite times of

1620
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 10: my life are just hanging backstage with the roots and

1621
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:43,839
Speaker 10: playing you guys, didn't.

1622
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 11: I see you one year like a roots jam? Like

1623
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 11: when it the Grammy thing? I swear I saw him

1624
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 11: one year in l A at a roots jam.

1625
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 1: You came inside of a roots.

1626
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 11: Jam every year month.

1627
01:19:55,080 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 1: You Oh wow, Yeah, a couple of years.

1628
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 8: So I have a question, So did you end up

1629
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:17,719
Speaker 8: doing ten records for Scotti Brothers or or what actually

1630
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:18,679
Speaker 8: happened to Scotty?

1631
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 1: But I feel like they're tied up in the river.

1632
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 10: Scotty Brothers also owned I think All American and Broadcasting,

1633
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 10: which owned Baywatch, so they they're sitting on a pile

1634
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 10: of money somewhere. I don't think they're a record label anymore.

1635
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 10: But I was sold as an asset, you know, because

1636
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 10: they still owned however many albums on my contract, and

1637
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 10: I got sold to somebody else, and then I got

1638
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 10: sold to somebody else, and I renegotiated the contact twice

1639
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 10: and each time I renegotiated, they tacked on a couple

1640
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:46,719
Speaker 10: more albums, So basically it became a fourteen album contract

1641
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 10: and my last album mandatory fund was album number fourteen, just.

1642
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:54,760
Speaker 1: Or No No.

1643
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 10: But in just thirty two short years I was able

1644
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 10: to fulfill my contracts.

1645
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:03,840
Speaker 1: You're still quote on the label no No.

1646
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 10: I fulfilled it when I when I delivered the last

1647
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 10: album and that was it. They wanted to uh to

1648
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 10: reassign me, which is very nice, and they made a

1649
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 10: very generous offer. But after being under contract for so long,

1650
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 10: I just really kind of wanted to be a free agent,

1651
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 10: not beholden to anybody. I hate the idea of just

1652
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:20,680
Speaker 10: owing people stuff. You know, I just I don't you know,

1653
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 10: I just just want don't want to have that kind

1654
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 10: of pressure hanging over me.

1655
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 1: Do you know who Richard Cheese is?

1656
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 10: Sure? Yes, Mark Davis, have you?

1657
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 1: That's I mean, I'm starting to figure out, like who's

1658
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 1: the then who's the closest person that could that has

1659
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 1: a following?

1660
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:42,360
Speaker 10: Yeah, mar Mark does sort of like with lounge music

1661
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 10: what I do with polgar music. He does like, you know,

1662
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 10: the hits of the day, like in his kind of

1663
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 10: like small too Biggest Lounge.

1664
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 1: What is the Latter day tupac to your Latter Day Biggie.

1665
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:56,679
Speaker 10: He's an old friend.

1666
01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:02,599
Speaker 1: I went to school with Sugar Dite. Yeah. Wow.

1667
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 3: What what other labels did you end up being on

1668
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:08,000
Speaker 3: a BMG or something?

1669
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, BMG and some version of CBS and EPIC and

1670
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 10: RCA and Volcano Records, and you know, and you know

1671
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 10: they're even even one of.

1672
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 1: Those sounding labels.

1673
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, even when it was on the same label, sometimes

1674
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:23,600
Speaker 10: they change their name or they'd add some subsidiary, and

1675
01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:27,120
Speaker 10: you know, I've probably been on a dozen different label

1676
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 10: imprints over my career.

1677
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 1: How how how did it feel because your last album

1678
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 1: actually went to number one? Correct? How surreal was that

1679
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 1: that you're you had the number one pop album?

1680
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:43,640
Speaker 10: It blew my mind, it really did, because you know,

1681
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 10: it was basically unprecedented that the UH never before had

1682
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,680
Speaker 10: a comedy album debut a number one military fund right, yeah,

1683
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 10: Midlistry fund and and and the last time a comedy

1684
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 10: album even reached number one was in nineteen sixty three.

1685
01:22:57,200 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 10: That was Alan Sherman. But back in the early sixty

1686
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 10: I mean, you know, comedy albums go to number one

1687
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 10: all the time. Alan Truman had three number one albums

1688
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 10: and Bob Newhart won like the Album of the Year

1689
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 10: the Grammys. I believe it was like, you know, back then,

1690
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 10: like comedy was, you know, viewed as more important. But yeah,

1691
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 10: there hadn't been a number one album since then, and

1692
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 10: I just kind of thought that that was you know,

1693
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 10: there was a glass ceiling or whatever. It just was

1694
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 10: like not within the realm of possibility. I thought, Oh,

1695
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 10: I really hope that's my last album cracks the top ten,

1696
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 10: because that would be cool for me to kind of

1697
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:27,560
Speaker 10: go out in a big way. And then when I

1698
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 10: found out that, you know, I had a good chance

1699
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 10: of hitting number one, it was very surrealistic for me

1700
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:37,520
Speaker 10: because you know, I'm obsessed with the Billboard charts. I've

1701
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 10: been studying them for decades, and to think that I

1702
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:42,680
Speaker 10: would have a number one album was just beyond my comprehension.

1703
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 1: That's weird.

1704
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 8: So you have to do a parody of one of

1705
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 8: your songs, that's possible the world the section, that's crazy.

1706
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 1: Oh h thank you for doing this for us.

1707
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 10: It's such a pleasure, man.

1708
01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 1: They're such fans of yours. Congratulation, thank you on a tour, Yes.

1709
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 7: All those things, Yes, I also have to come back

1710
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 7: into my roll call. I wasn't lying when I said

1711
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 7: that was one of the top ten shows I've ever

1712
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 7: seen in my entire life. How were you when you

1713
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 7: see I was in my twenties, it was I was

1714
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 7: in college at the time, and it was like maybe

1715
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 7: ninety nine, two thousands or something like.

1716
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 10: That, and running with a Scissors store made Yeah, I

1717
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 10: think it was.

1718
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:24,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, And like I considered myself a fan, but

1719
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 7: I didn't really realize how many of your songs I

1720
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:29,720
Speaker 7: knew until I saw you before them all back to

1721
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 7: back to back to even sitting.

1722
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 1: Here just talking. I was like, damn, he did do

1723
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 1: that one. Yeah. It was like, yeah, it's like, oh man,

1724
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 1: I forgot about that one.

1725
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 7: I forgot And then I started realizing, yeah, I remember

1726
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:41,560
Speaker 7: the lyrics too, and so I'm just like, I'm a

1727
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 7: bigger weird, weird out fan than I thought I was,

1728
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 7: you know. And so like after that, I started really

1729
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 7: going back deeper and deeper into the catalog and it

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Speaker 7: was just yeah.

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Speaker 10: Well, you know, I'm still going through my raid all phase.

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Speaker 1: Damn.

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Speaker 7: Now you know my first show is going to be

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Speaker 7: the you should go Like I saw this man was

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Speaker 7: hopping around on one leg with the other leg behind

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Speaker 7: his head.

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Speaker 1: It was amazing. It was amazing. Yes, can I still

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Speaker 1: do that? You still got it?

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Speaker 9: Wow?

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01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 1: Be careful, that is ship done.

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Speaker 10: Wow an old man.

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01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 1: Wow.

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01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 10: The one of the most bones removed, you know.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 7: One of the most entertaining shows I've ever seen the

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01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 7: entire life. Wow, that's amazing. Anyway, how do you describe

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01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:35,280
Speaker 7: that what we just seen?

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Speaker 1: Got? We got photo? We'll post it up on contortionist

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Speaker 1: Alan Convic Yeah, so on behalf of Sugar Steve and

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01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:50,640
Speaker 1: Boss Bill and fan Tickelo and it's like, yeah, we

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Speaker 1: thank you very much for coming on the show.

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Speaker 10: Pleasure.

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01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 1: I can't wait to finally see you in concert the

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01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 1: deep cuts. Maybe we'll just do one of the hits

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Speaker 1: for the encore, just for me. This course, Love of

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01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 1: the Quest, Love Supreme, and we will see you over

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Speaker 1: the next go around. Thank you. Course.

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Speaker 2: Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic episode

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Speaker 2: was produced by the team at Pandora. For more podcasts

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Speaker 2: from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever

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