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Paul Parello here taking your calls eight 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:14.800 five five Pats, five hundred emails Weibe Radio at Patriots 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:18.880 dot com deuce your initial thoughts after the game? What 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:23.280 do you got? Very sloppy start. I think that was 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:26.000 what was most jarring to me. The you know, you 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:28.800 knew the Colts prey off a turnovers. They came out, 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:32.520 Gunner had a fumblely fumbled it out Mac with the interceptions. Uh, 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:35.800 they kind of you know, book ended the halftime with 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:39.000 those two turnovers there. Uh, you know, credit to Indie. 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:41.680 They came out, they played hard, they dominated both sides 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:44.120 of the ball, and I, you know, I do I 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:45.880 do like a little bit of fight. The Patriots showed 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:47.760 down the end, but in the end it just wasn't 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:51.520 It just wasn't enough. Certainly not enough at the end. 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:53.480 But they did show some fight there toward the end 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:56.120 of the game. And and maybe fight is the wrong word. 0:01:56.160 --> 0:02:00.000 I think offensively they finally got a few things to click. Yeah, 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:01.840 I would echo a lot of what what Mike said. 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:04.600 I just think that they they kind of reverted to 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:06.000 the team that we saw in the first half of 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:10.080 the season tonight with the penalties, the turnovers, the block 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:14.320 punt third one of the season, just overall sloppiness. They 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:18.800 kind of made it easy. I do think they did 0:02:18.880 --> 0:02:23.320 some things reasonably well tonight, But and I'm sure we'll 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:25.880 hear from Bill Belichick later, not nearly enough and not 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:30.520 nearly consistent enough. Even the things they did well, you know, 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:32.959 and I would agree, you know, I don't ever expect 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:35.160 the Patriots to roll over and die. And they didn't 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:39.480 roll over and die even twenty to nothing. You know, 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:41.960 that to me is not even on the table. Like 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:47.200 the Patriots sort of you know, capacity to fight, that's 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:49.560 not a question. It hasn't been in question really since 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:51.720 two thousand and one. They haven't had a team that 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:53.799 I think has has just been a bunch of quitters ever, 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:57.640 So that's a given to me. But everything else tonight 0:02:57.680 --> 0:02:59.639 just wasn't good enough. And I would, you know, I 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:01.040 think going to spend a lot of time on a 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:04.280 bad list time, Yeah, we are. But I gotta say, 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:07.520 for as good as you can feel about, you know, 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:09.959 a game where they played as poorly as they did, 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:13.440 a game that they ended up losing, I feel oddly 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:15.520 okay just because of the way they were able to 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:17.960 turn things around a little bit offensively at the end, 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:21.400 and the defense was able to make a couple of plays. 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:25.399 It wasn't a complete embarrassment, It wasn't a disaster. It 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:28.280 was kind of that humbling game that I thought maybe 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:33.120 this team could get some benefit from and and also 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:36.760 puts them into position to where now that game against 0:03:36.760 --> 0:03:39.640 Buffalo next week, I still think Buffalo is a better 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:42.920 football team than the Colts. They're going to be here 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:47.040 at Jillette Stadium a week from tomorrow. You get that win, 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:49.600 and you're right this ship that way, you still got 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:53.160 a few games, You've still got, you know, the postseason 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:58.400 to look forward to here hopefully and put yourself in 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:01.560 a position to where you're not thinking about rattling off 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:03.839 in eleven game win streak to end the season. That's 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:07.560 done with. Now, Okay, you got your wish now a 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:09.480 little bit I did. I'm glad that he said it, 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:11.120 So don't you don't have to argue with me, because 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:12.440 I know you yell at me if I said it. 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:14.360 I didn't think they're going to run the table. I 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:16.160 didn't either, But that doesn't mean I was hoping that 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:19.440 they wouldn't, you know, for like, and I know you 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:22.120 weren't hoping that they would. Don't take that literally. I 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:25.679 mean your feeling was they needed to lose a game 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:29.360 like for their for their betterment, you know kind of 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:31.280 Is that right? Is that accurate? I don't want to 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:36.119 put words yet. I don't want to They need it, Yeah, 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:39.360 I need it to lose your I think they needed 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:43.240 a bit of a reality check that you that you get. 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:46.800 I think they needed a reality check in that it's like, 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:48.680 you know what, you know, if we play our game, 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:50.919 even if we don't play one hundred percent, we're just 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:53.160 gonna play it. You know, that much harder in between 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:56.200 coaching and a slid defense, and you know what, sometimes 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:58.599 that games don't go your weight. It is not okay 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:00.599 to go out there and play as poorly as you did, 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:04.440 for as much as you did, and and and think 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:06.200 that you can still win. Because they've had a couple 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:11.120 of games where certain aspects, whether it was offensively almost 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:15.280 exclusively offensively, they didn't really have it going and they 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:17.800 ended up with wins anyway. So now you saw it. 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:21.480 You saw it tonight against a team that's that's not fantastic, 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:24.600 but it's a good enough football team who's also offense 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:28.320 didn't do much tonight. Carson Wentz certainly didn't do much tonight. 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:32.680 There was one guy run out there in um almost 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:34.400 got the Patriots back in the game. And that's why 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:37.239 even like you know, I'm not really here much for 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:39.320 a lot of the positives that we're going to talk 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:40.840 about here, because I think there are a lot of 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:42.719 a lot of sort of like we're trying to talk 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:46.440 ourselves into. I will say this in terms of like 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:49.719 individual play kind of stuff. The last touchdown passed that 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.039 Mac threw to Hunter Henry might be the best throw 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:54.640 that Hunter that Mac Jones made all year. Yeah, that 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:57.960 was a phenomenal throw a very tight window. So there 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:01.000 were enough. He didn't really anything else a none of 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:02.560 those moments at the end. It's all right, not a 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:06.719 complete embarrassment. This team is not, you know, complete fools gold. Nope. 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:10.480 They they played poorly. They found some stuff at the end, 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:13.680 and they got a good dose of reality shoved in 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:17.200 their face tonight, which good teams will learn from and 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:20.120 benefit from for the rest of the way. Let's let's 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:22.440 get to our good, the bad, and the training room 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:27.880 list here. Now it's time for the good. Pretty good, prithee, 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:31.520 pretty good. The bad. If you were in my toilet, ball. 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:34.720 I wouldn't bother flushing and the training room. You you 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:38.560 want a backrup presented by there good, good, the bad 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:40.960 in the training room. It's hard to do so. And 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:44.719 Paul Parilla bringing you the very short good list tonight 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.240 for the Patriots deuce, you want to lead us off, Yeah, 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:49.280 I gotta. I gotta lead off with Hunter Henry. I 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:52.800 mean two touchdowns six for seventy seven. Um, you know, 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:56.440 he was their best player tonight. I had hundred also, absolutely, 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:59.480 that's I think it's an easy one. But great players 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:01.520 seeing there, nice nice catching the end zone. Paul mentioned 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:04.760 the second one, real nice throw from mackin and you know, 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:07.720 I think Henry just watching you have a Okay, that's 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:09.440 the first one. That's not the second one. The second 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:12.560 one is the one I just thought. Um was was 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:16.040 phenomenal on Max part. But I agree with you rifled 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.040 it in there. He's become He's been consistent. I mean, 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:19.920 he's just he's I mean, obviously the last couple games 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.320 a little quiet, but coming back on and I mean 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:24.560 he continues to have a really solid season here in 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:25.880 his first year. Yeah, he had a little bit of 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:27.840 a lull, and I'm not talking about last week when 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:30.280 the passing game wasn't part of it. But um, you 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:32.080 know tonight, I know a lot of people, you guys 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.600 talked in the pre game about the Colts having some 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:37.640 struggles with tight ends. I don't really think that that 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:40.160 was overly evident tonight. I think that the Colts defense 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.560 dominated this game and gave up a you know, a 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:45.000 couple of whole by the way drives at the end 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:47.320 when you know, I think they will playing in the 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:49.400 time they were playing the score in the time that 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:51.280 throw though, Like I don't care what the time of 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:54.320 the game is right here, like this is I mean, 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.960 that's I mean, that's a special throw. He puts it 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:00.360 right on the just as a point of comparison, I 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:04.120 thought Carson Wentz had the positive, you know, the chance 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:05.760 to do that a couple of times put it on 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.679 the right side or the left side of a receiver 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:11.320 and consistently was putting it on the wrong side and 0:08:11.360 --> 0:08:13.960 allowing passes to get tipped. And he finally got burned 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:15.880 with one of them in the fourth quarter. But I 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:18.040 agree with my counter Henry was by far and away 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:21.960 I think the most productive Patriot tonight. YEP. And in 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:24.600 terms of that last throbe haul, the one that we're 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:26.880 just looking at again here. You know it says it's 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:29.000 what we said about Brady so many times. He put 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:31.080 it where only his guy was going to be able 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:33.600 to catch it. There's only one guy could catch that ball. 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:37.720 Henry made the catch there, and it was just when 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:40.400 that ball left mac Jones's hands. I'll guarantee you Darius 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:43.880 Leonard thought he had another pick. Yeah, without question. All right, 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:47.880 who's your first and maybe only good list? We all have, Henry, 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.360 So we all have one. I gotta be honest with you. 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:52.440 I don't have any individuals from here on it. And 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:55.200 I have some things that I saw that I will mention, 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:57.480 and I'll start with one of them. Okay, so you 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:01.400 go in at halftime, you down seventeen nothing, and then 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.679 your quarterback throws a pick and they run it back 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:05.720 to the twenty yard line. Your defense comes out, stops 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:07.840 and three and out forces a field goal. I thought 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:10.000 that was incredible toughness on the part of the defense. 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:12.679 I thought that set the tone defensively for the way 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:15.360 they played the majority of the second half. The last 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:18.800 two drives. I would say, you know, kind of spoiled 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:21.080 that a little bit. But I thought that to come 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:24.280 out and get a three and out on the twenty 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:27.280 yard line, I thought was fantastic toughness by the defense. 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.240 So I had that on my good list. Yeah, that's good. 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:33.400 I'll put Nick Folk on there. Well, let's just keep 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:36.040 him there, you know, on this kind of game, just 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:38.160 one for one. Not sure why they had him kicked 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:39.800 that one at the end. We'll get to that part. 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:42.520 We're gonna get it. Kicked it, he kicked it, and 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:47.800 uh he made the program up coming and a couple 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:50.760 of chance is there any did what he had to do. 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:54.520 Nick Folk on the good list? Yeah, okay, And I 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:56.880 might just put d back on there just for the end. 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:58.960 For the interception. I thought that was a good play. 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:01.280 I thought he, you know, kind of rally the troops 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:02.880 a little bit. I know I'm grasping at straws a 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:05.400 little bit with that, but I think he might show 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:09.000 up later on a particularly important run late in the game. Well, yeah, 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:12.679 I would love to put you know, the secondary, you know, 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:16.080 in just in terms of you know, we look at 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:18.280 Carson Wentz and his numbers on the night, it's like, wow, 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:20.600 maybe you know, the secondary was just all over these 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:23.760 guys in coverage. But even if that were the case, 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:28.679 they had a couple of missed opportunities, had interceptions before 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:30.600 the ones that they actually had. Well, I think that 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:33.880 Carson Wentz had lots of opportunities and open receivers that 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.160 he missed. Yea, yeah, that's true, And that's what's that's 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.280 what's mattening. Just like as I'm going through it and 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:39.640 looking at the stats, and I think I said it 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:42.760 during the game, was like they did to the Patriots 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:44.800 what the Patriots usually do, and you look at the 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:46.719 stats and it's the same kind of thing. We're like, wow, Mac, 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:49.120 I mean the Carson Wentz five at twelve or fifty 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:51.680 seven yards, Like you can easily see yourself. Wow, you 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:54.240 can see yourself Damian Harris doing that ceiling run at 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:57.040 the end. I mean, it's just the turnovers, the block punt, 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.079 I mean, all that stuff that always the Patriots do, 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:01.080 and we knew coming in these were similar teams. I 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:04.640 think the Colts out Patriots the Patriots, right, all right? Um, 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:07.320 any other goods I mean individually, I don't think we're 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:11.679 gonna have anywhere there. I mean, I just I wrote 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.920 down just to rent the red zone defense in general. Um, 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:16.440 you know, in the second half, I think they came 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:20.240 up with two stops down there. Um. Like I said, 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:23.920 I mean, I don't want to gush too much because 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:26.120 of the way the game ended and I and to me, 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:29.080 it's the last two drives, not just the big run. 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:32.640 The last two possessions for the Colts were very successful 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:35.199 drives by the Colts. Um, So that was that was. 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:36.640 That's it for me for the good. I don't know 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:40.240 what else. You guys have nothing, Okay, that's only got 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:42.600 not honey. All see that's a throw right there that 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:46.160 jac Jackson almost picks off. We just showed a highlight clip. 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.000 He has Pittman running to the sideline on an outpattern. 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:52.040 He's wide open, but the throw comes way to the 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:55.680 inside and it allows Jackson to come to come and 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:57.720 almost pick the pass off. But this should have been 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.319 an easy completion for Wentz for whatever. And he was 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.559 dropping down throwing all kinds of side on throws tonight. Um. 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:06.880 But I mean that that play you watch and see 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:09.400 he's this is NFL open right here, and the throw 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:11.960 comes to the wrong side. That throw needs to come 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:13.640 to the outside, and he's got the ball down to 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.439 the five yard line. That's a terrible, terrible throw by 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:18.360 by Carson. What look at how far behind that as 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:21.520 mechanics really like I just think he was like Mahomes 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:25.000 a little bit tonight with the sidearm stuff for no reason. Um. 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:28.080 But anyway, Yeah, all right, let's get onto the bad list. 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:33.080 Um wow, I mean I just got just length. You 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:34.880 know what you don't had, Mike. You can kick us 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:36.480 off if you if you want to start with like 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.360 the most obvious one out. I'm gonna go chronologically throughout 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:41.200 the game probably, but we want to start us off 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:45.400 if you got some Chronosue Isaiah, Isaiah win because I 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:49.000 just saw another highlight package going on another monitor here. 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:53.040 I mean there were there were multiple missed blocks. There 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:54.880 was the one where he missed and then he turned 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:56.760 around and ran into his own back. I mean, it 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:59.480 was just it was It would have been comical if 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:03.280 it weren't so detrimental to the start that the Patriots had, 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:05.320 or a lack of any kind of an offensive start. 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:07.720 I thought Isaiah went at a really rough night. Yeah, 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:09.920 and individually he would be at one near to the 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:12.560 top of my list. Yeah. And and again they found 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:14.840 something toward the end of the game, and that includes 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:17.760 the offensive line. They they weren't bringing as much pressure, 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.200 but let's face it, there were times when the line 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:22.640 looked bad early on in the game where they weren't 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:26.160 sending the house. They were rushing four and you know, 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:28.679 you should be able to hold your own more often 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:31.400 than not, and that wasn't the case. So they found 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:33.360 a little something towards the end. But I thought Isaiah 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:36.640 went at a particularly bad night. Yeah, I'm gonna hop 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:38.640 around here a little bit, but I gotta go with 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:41.679 with the block punt the punt team, Um, you know, 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:44.640 that's just that's the third third one this year most 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:48.240 in the NFL. Ye Jacob Johnson seemed like he was 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:51.120 the guy most responsible for that play. Just you know, 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:53.600 that was I think the moment you realized what role 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:55.360 you know these guys, this is what they do, and 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:58.360 you realized it was going in their direction early. Um, 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.240 that's when it went from a start to a disaster. 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:04.760 Exactly play. And I think just overall, I think the 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:06.600 performance of the you know, the punt team has been 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:09.920 a little spotty this year to begin with, and I 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:11.480 believe I might be wrong, but I think they had 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:15.000 another one almost blocked too. Maybe I'm misremembering that, but 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.640 just a huge play and special teams. You know, usually 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:21.280 Patriots is what you count on, full team effort, winning 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:23.600 in all three phases, and that was points on the 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:26.200 board the first quarter with the punt team just h 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:30.080 he can't let it happen. Yep, Kevin and Burlington agreeing 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.200 with us on that. Can we finally close the book 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:34.720 on this waste of a first round pick. We're not 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:37.200 going that far, he said, I get it. He occasionally 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:39.680 run blocks well, but mixed that in with all of 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:41.600 his penalty calls and miss blocks and he got to 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:43.960 start wondering if he's going to get mac hurt. He 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:48.080 tackled well tonight. Fortunately you got Rmandre Stephens can back. 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:52.040 He I mean, he was bad. I'm like, listen, this 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:53.720 is what we do like one day when we tell 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.440 you how great they are. Right, he was really bad 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:59.520 in this game. I thought he was most responsible for 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:01.400 the office It's being out of sync early in the 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:04.920 game because he was constantly allowing pressure. That running play 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:08.200 was almost comically missus block so badly. He turned around 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:10.320 to try to chase the guy and then ended up 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:13.720 knocking Romandre Stevenson over for a loss, Like he was 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:16.680 really bad. Yeah, like you can't have that play. And 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.040 now the offensive line as a whole was really bad. 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:21.480 But when was the worst? All right, Paul, what do 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:25.800 you got? Uh? I had just did you say did 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:28.120 you already say Jacob Johnson or did you know Mike 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:31.440 mentioned the punt block that that was his and Jacob Johnson. 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:37.640 The penalties were killers tonight and it was throughout the game. Now, 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:41.560 this was one of the rare games that all the 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.000 penalties were on the Patriots. There were very few, if any, 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:48.400 was there one to two on the Colts. This was 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:50.880 like on the first offensive series, I think they got 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:55.480 two penalties then they had I mean, just just think 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:57.320 about some of the penalties that happened during the course 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:59.160 of the game. They get a false start Michael will 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:01.320 when you on third and goal from like the two 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:04.440 right in the fourth quarter. I think that was the 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:06.400 drive they ended up kicking the field goal instead of 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:10.160 going to the touchdown. They had a missed field goal 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:14.800 Michael Badgeley offside who was at five yards closer he 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:18.800 hits the second one. Uh, just like, really dumb penalties, 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:22.080 really dumb stuff. Again, another example as Mike's I love 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:25.280 the phrase the cults out Patriot. You know, well, how 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:28.920 did you put it? The cults out Patriots? Patriots? Yeah, 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.840 the Colts did what the Patriots do. They made they 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:34.400 made the other team make mistakes. They didn't do ANYTHINGY 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:37.080 just waited for the Patriots to make mistakes, and unfortunately 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.280 the Patriots made them all night. Yep. I had special 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:41.760 teams down there, and that offside on the field goal 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:45.000 was just indicative of the entire penalties as a whole 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:48.040 were eight for fifty yards and that was and they 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:50.400 were Brandon King jump. That was the Brandon King is 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:52.000 the one who went off side when he was the 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:53.960 one who was the false start or just a routine 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:57.880 play that all teams do, the heavy adjustment of the 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:00.480 defensive line on a on a goal, the ghost situation. 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:02.720 Defense has nothing to lose down there. If it's off 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:05.359 side on the defense, oh, you're moving the ball a 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.040 half a yard, you know, whereas the offense you go 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:09.520 from third and goal from the one to third and 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:11.320 goal from the six. That's a big difference. A couple 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:14.040 other to mention Mac delay a game that was one. 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:18.560 Well that's what I have and you know, to kind 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:22.399 of I guess not to pile on Mac, but I 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:24.920 have Mac Jones on the list too. Well. Mac Jones 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:26.840 is heavily on the bad list in this game, although 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:29.600 he you know, he played well at the end. You know, 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:32.199 the penalty thing, you put that under one umbrella, but 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:33.919 you also put it in the you know, in the 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:37.640 bullet point under Mac Jones. The delay a game which 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:40.800 was on him his even on some of the completions 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:44.200 he made early. He was throwing behind guys, um he 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:48.520 was he was throwing guys into really dangerous coverage situations, 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:51.880 and he's just he wasn't making good decisions. I mean 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:53.959 these these these are all throws that ended up being 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:56.200 in complete passes. You can see just how many people 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:58.200 for the colt. I mean, this is an easy pick. 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:01.040 Just dropped this this I can pick me bad in 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:03.360 this game. The second point that he threw tonight was 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:06.080 maybe his worst decision of the night. It was just 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:09.880 you know what, you saw it happening before he threw 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:11.960 the ball. It was one of those split second things. 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:15.080 Sure easy for you to say. I'm not talking SloMo 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:17.240 after the fact. I'm talking about as he has thrown 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:19.920 that ball, I said Oh my god. But that that's 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:23.960 that's gonna be undercut. And it was the sprint out 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.600 to the right, jump pass back to the left that 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:29.119 he completes on a third down. I hated, like, I 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:32.680 didn't like it really anything. That last throw again, the 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:35.600 last throw to Hunter Henry was maybe his best throw 0:18:35.640 --> 0:18:38.000 of the season. Other than that, I didn't like anything 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:40.240 that he did tonight. And I know there's gonna be 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:43.360 a lot of attention. Well he he didn't win it, 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:47.000 but he showed you, no, he didn't know, No, he didn't. 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:49.040 He was flustered in the first drive of the third 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:51.800 quarter when they need He was not good in this 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:54.119 game tonight. But I'm not telling you that's a referendum 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:55.719 on the rest of his life. No, but a lot 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:57.560 of other people will. This is why I had a 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:00.760 bad game tonight. I kind of oddly wanted something like 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:03.240 this and felt this is what they needed because for 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:06.840 everyone saying that this this team is a Super Bowl contender, 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:09.480 watched the offense for the first three quarters of that game, 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:11.840 and tell me that was a Super Bowl contending team. 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:15.320 Nofens was great in the fourth quarter, no chance, No, 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:19.280 everything felt effort, A lot of effort, everything, and that's 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:22.919 why I you know, the Colts, it wasn't necessarily pretty 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:25.679 except for a few things, but you could just tell 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:27.639 right from the get go that they were playing with 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:30.359 more energy. They were fired up, they wanted this game, 0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:33.040 that the fans are behind them, and you know, it's 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:34.359 just one of those things. And I think I think 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:36.399 I might have said it about the Patriots against the Browns, 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:38.680 where it's like it just jumps off the screen. You watch, 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:41.439 you can see what team came to play today, and 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:44.560 today it was the Colts that came to play. And 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:47.199 I agree about the offense. It's just as much as 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:52.080 even when they're moving the ball, it's like everything is everything. 0:19:52.520 --> 0:19:55.960 And six for fifteen on third down, one for three 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:59.080 on fourth bound, two for four in the red zone. 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:02.720 They didn't do anything well offensively tonight until the game 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:06.480 was over. Like let's let's let's let's treat the Patriots 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:10.080 like we treat the Patriots opponents right when they do 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:12.439 stuff in garbage time, let's call it for what it is, 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:17.080 garbage time. Garbage time. Yeah, and and and I'm not 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:20.119 saying they can't contend. I'm not saying that, you know 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:22.679 this firmly puts them out of it. And it no, 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:26.000 of course not because there It's like we were talking 0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:30.280 about in the pregame, there is no clear cut dominant 0:20:30.320 --> 0:20:34.760 force in either conference this year or anyone that's saying, well, 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:37.160 all right, now that's the team. So a lot can 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:39.960 still happen. But I think it's important for the Patriots 0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:42.480 to know and to experience firsthand that you can't play 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:47.040 like that and expect to be considered and even think 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:49.399 of yourselves as being ready to take it to that 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:53.120 next level. Because as poorly as you played, you got 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:55.600 beat by a team as quarterback when five of twelve 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:58.800 the quarter their quarterback did everything he could to keep 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:00.639 you in the game, which is the only reason why 0:21:00.640 --> 0:21:02.800 you only lost by ten, by the way, right, because 0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:07.720 if they had any kind of passing game tonight, and 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:10.120 the plays were there, I mean, the very first possession 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:12.280 of the game, they had Michael Pittman for a long 0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:15.040 play at the very least like a fifty yard play. 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:16.359 I don't know if it would have been a touchdown. 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:18.520 Mccordy was coming over, probably would have knocked him out 0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:22.080 of bounds, but that's an easy, easy throw these four 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:25.720 yards behind. J. C. Jackson who for that play I 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:28.680 had initially down. I thought he got beat a couple 0:21:28.720 --> 0:21:31.280 of times tonight and really didn't pay for it because 0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:35.119 Wentz just sucked. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's a wake up 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:38.280 call for the offense, for the defense, for the coaching staff, 0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:41.320 for a coaching staff that we often laud as being 0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:43.480 a Now Bill Belichick is not going to let the 0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:45.440 one guy beat you. He let the one guy beat 0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:49.440 you tonight. Yeah, And it's And I'd also just put 0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:52.639 in that they made a ton of mistakes and that 0:21:52.720 --> 0:21:54.800 they weren't really ready to go. You know, they were 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:57.960 not clearly fired up and ready to counter the energy 0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:01.119 that Indianapolis came into. And you know, I agree with you, Mike. 0:22:01.400 --> 0:22:03.359 I just don't think they brought the same intensity to 0:22:03.359 --> 0:22:05.960 start the game that Indianapolis did. They eventually got there, 0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:09.240 but it was too late. Yea, I agree, Mike. I 0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:11.200 think that's a great point. They didn't. They weren't ready 0:22:11.200 --> 0:22:13.320 to go. Kyle Dugger was intense when he was ripping 0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:16.560 helmets off and you know, getting in fights. Like I said, 0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:18.719 like they got there eventually, but like there was too 0:22:18.800 --> 0:22:20.280 much of this early in the game. I mean, this 0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:25.040 is nothing, nothing, just Jonathan Taylor just carrying bodies. Yeah, 0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:28.800 like that's I mean, you know we made a lot, well, 0:22:28.920 --> 0:22:33.040 we made a lot out of Buffalo, Like, oh, you 0:22:33.119 --> 0:22:37.120 knew they were gonna run it. It couldn't stop it. Well, 0:22:37.280 --> 0:22:41.160 twenty nine for one seventy yeah, yeah, take take away 0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:43.320 the sixty seven yard or for the touchdownt the end 0:22:43.359 --> 0:22:47.959 in still eight for one hundred and when all they 0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:50.720 were doing was running the ball every play right the 0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:53.199 fourth ride, So you knew it was coming and you 0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:55.680 couldn't stop it. Learn from it. And like I said, 0:22:55.680 --> 0:22:58.600 the drive before the like, listen, let me. Can I 0:22:58.600 --> 0:22:59.960 set you up for that? Guy? I'm just gonna say 0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:02.240 a long touchdown? Those happened just like the Damian Harris 0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:04.040 went last week. They happened ahead. Well, I was gonna 0:23:04.040 --> 0:23:05.399 set yet for it, because can I jump in on 0:23:05.400 --> 0:23:06.879 the field goal? Can I put the field goal on 0:23:07.160 --> 0:23:09.600 the down list the Patriots field goal? Yeah? If already yet? 0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:12.560 But it leads into what Paul was saying, which and 0:23:12.640 --> 0:23:16.280 I'm not somebody who kills about like the aggressive and 0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:18.200 the analytics and fourth Town going for it, But I 0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:22.760 just I don't really understand the decision because you're at 0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:28.840 the Indianapolis seven, fourth down. If you're down by thirteen points, 0:23:28.880 --> 0:23:31.479 you need two scores. So if you don't get it, 0:23:31.760 --> 0:23:34.919 they're taken right over right then at the seven, you 0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:37.439 still need two scores. You kicked the field goal, you 0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:39.879 still need two scores. What is the difference with that 0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:42.320 three points that maybe you could have gotten on that 0:23:42.320 --> 0:23:44.000 second possession at the end, you might have kicked the 0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:47.280 field goal to tie, like go for the touchdown? And 0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:49.760 I agree with Mike, and I would also add to that, Mike, 0:23:50.840 --> 0:23:53.400 how do you feel, like, what do you feel better 0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:57.800 about first and ten from the twenty five getting a 0:23:57.880 --> 0:24:00.000 three and out or first and ten from the seven 0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:02.080 and getting it three and out? What do you think 0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:04.680 is harder? Yeah? And I don't know how much time 0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:07.199 goes off when you kick it off either, but you know, like, 0:24:07.520 --> 0:24:09.359 well none, it would have been a touchback, you know, 0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:11.240 assuming a touchback. That's why I put the ball in 0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:16.080 the twenty five. I just I didn't like I didn't 0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:18.480 like the decision. I didn't hate it, like like Mike says, 0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:20.480 I'm not sitting here telling you you know that costing 0:24:20.760 --> 0:24:23.200 it didn't It didn't cost them the game. I just 0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:28.080 thought it's set. I think Bill is more than willing 0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:34.400 oftentimes to allow those situations to unfold in which they 0:24:34.440 --> 0:24:37.280 have to go absolutely perfectly, Like a sequence of literally 0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:40.800 fifteen or twenty players have to all go exactly the 0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:43.520 way the Patriots want them for you to have a chance, 0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:47.320 And in that situation you needed the three and out. Well, 0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:49.840 they ended up cranking out two first downs and taking 0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:53.280 out over five minutes off the clock. Yeah, that was game. 0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:55.560 But that's why I'm not going to sit here and 0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:58.440 tell you like the game was over there. Now it's like, well, sure, 0:24:58.480 --> 0:25:00.240 if you get an on site kick or if they 0:25:00.240 --> 0:25:02.680 fumble or something funny happens, you can still win. But 0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:06.320 it's not gonna happen. Like the twelve carries on the 0:25:06.520 --> 0:25:08.439 twelve yards on the first carry on that on right 0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:10.800 drive right twelve and then and then they went fourth. 0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:13.920 Then then they ran the ball four times on right 0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:16.240 and the one thing that you can't account for, they 0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:20.120 go three first downs that drive after the fourth down conversion. 0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:23.960 Yeah yeah, wow, the first the first down was a 0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:26.199 twelve yard carry, then it was then they got the 0:25:26.200 --> 0:25:28.360 fourth down on that next Okay, so they got two 0:25:28.400 --> 0:25:30.320 first downs then and then they pick and they punted it, 0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:32.280 but had you had you gone for instead of taking 0:25:32.280 --> 0:25:34.360 the field goal? The one thing that you you can't 0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:36.840 argue because we don't know. It's rewriting history. But how 0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:39.720 does the other team respond? What do they do differently? 0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:42.639 How do they handle the pressure once they know that 0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:44.520 all of a sudden, this is a one score game 0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:47.560 and holy crap, yet that's Bill Belichick over there on 0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:53.400 the sideline. Now listen at twenty to fourteen. The Colts 0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:55.840 can't just line up and run Jonathan Taylor. They have 0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:58.000 to try to do something different. Maybe Wentz were thrown 0:25:58.000 --> 0:26:00.600 another one to you, right, you know, or maybe it 0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:02.360 becomes harder to stop them because you have to play 0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:04.280 that Ronnie in the past and again and again. You 0:26:04.320 --> 0:26:06.640 don't know, but you don't know you're gonna get it either. 0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:09.760 I'm just saying I'm using Mike's scenario because I think 0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:14.000 Mike like put it out there perfectly, like, okay, so 0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:16.640 let's say you don't get it right, like I think 0:26:16.640 --> 0:26:18.440 everybody's like, oh, you make it twenty fourteen and then 0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:21.840 you win. Well, no, because I don't know that you're 0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:23.800 gonna get fourth and goal from the set. But if 0:26:23.840 --> 0:26:26.440 you don't get it. I like my chances of four singer, 0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:28.840 three and out. Yes, yes, that come up on the seven, 0:26:29.040 --> 0:26:31.920 you'll get a good field position. I'm down twenty to seven. 0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:34.520 The other team's got to get a first down starting 0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:37.920 at their own seven. I like my chances. Yeah. The 0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:41.760 more time that passed, and even as they gave themselves 0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:43.680 a shot at it at the end, I think the 0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:46.159 more all three of us felt it would have been 0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:47.760 better for them to go for it there instead of 0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:49.879 taking it. Yeah. That's the only tweet I put out 0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:52.400 during the game was I thought it was a curious decision, 0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:54.760 and I just it's set up no margin for or 0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:56.760 the rest of the game, and the Patriots made a 0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:58.520 lot of errors the rest of the game. What are 0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:02.080 the bads do we want to get too? Before we 0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:04.160 head over to the training room, which has also got 0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:06.000 a I just got a couple on a couple of 0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:07.959 little things. I mean, I think the gunner fumble, I 0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:11.880 just I really don't trust him much at all with 0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:13.600 his ball handling. It scares me. I mean, he got 0:27:13.680 --> 0:27:15.280 lucky at went out of bounce, but I just again 0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:18.760 it's like the early tone, not ready, like you know, 0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:21.359 And that was just don't turn the ball over. This 0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:23.840 team prais off turnovers. You can't do it. And you know, 0:27:23.960 --> 0:27:25.760 right off the bat it was like it time to 0:27:25.760 --> 0:27:27.479 get into keel back there again. You saw I had 0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:31.880 that shut handedness on that big reception late. So would 0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:35.040 you like to see more of the keel back? Not really, Okay, 0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:38.760 I did have that on my list, and I had 0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:42.640 Romandre Stevenson's fumble on my list as well. Um, and 0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:45.399 you know I had sort of snapped back at the 0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:48.240 We had a caller from Canada earlier. I can't remember. 0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:49.840 I know we have two that call in regularly and 0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:52.040 I can't remember which one dust from Ontario. He was 0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:55.840 very concerned about Stevenson. Listen, I don't think Stevenson was 0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:58.800 a problem in this game tonight. Um. They couldn't run 0:27:58.840 --> 0:28:00.760 the ball, and I think the offensive line was terrible, 0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:03.280 you know, for the most part in this game. But 0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:07.359 to the caller's point, he fumbled. He did fumble tonight. 0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:10.720 They got it back, Jono Smith recovered it, but not good. 0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:15.480 You can't fumble. Yeah, all right, um, training room, which 0:28:15.600 --> 0:28:19.560 is brought to you by Thara gunn Uh Yeah, Jawan 0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:22.760 Bentley was I think that one's significant, and I would 0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:25.800 say is a big run stopper. I mean that that 0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:28.520 that one, you can kind of that one. That one 0:28:28.600 --> 0:28:31.639 hurt how much I'm not sure, but yeah, that was 0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:35.800 big one. Nelson Agalore that might be significant too, because 0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:38.760 he had to leave with a concussion and never came back. 0:28:39.040 --> 0:28:41.360 And Carl Davis was another one. I'm not sure if 0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:43.280 he I don't know, I don't know if he came back, 0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:45.360 and I don't know what his problem was. And then 0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:47.760 and then the keel on that on that big play 0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:50.560 at the end where um geez and Dajo was like, 0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:53.320 he looks, he looks like he was okay though I 0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:54.720 thought he was trying to make it. I thought he 0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:56.360 looked like he was trying to get back in the game. 0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:58.760 And I, you know, I don't know, I'd like to 0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:00.840 see that again. I didn't see that the way they 0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:03.120 kept talking about it. But I was hoping against hope 0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:04.960 with Aglore that it was like a chest that he 0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:08.760 just took, you know, a good pop to the there. 0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:11.400 But I think they did say head and I think 0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:13.560 there was a moment where it looked like he had 0:29:13.640 --> 0:29:16.000 kind of gone out a little bit. And I think 0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:18.320 you said as we were watching the balls. Lucky to 0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:21.480 maintain possession of that ball because he he had a 0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:24.240 strong game. He made a couple of really difficult catches 0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:27.920 in this game, right, Um Agilo had four for thirty four. 0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:31.280 You know, nothing flashy there, but um, I did think 0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:33.960 a couple of those catches worked like just another thing. 0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:37.080 I didn't think Mac was very good. I thought Mac 0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:39.760 was getting his receivers hit all night. And that's and 0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:42.080 that's why, like I almost was thinking about to Kobe, 0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:44.120 but you know, he had a couple of drops. But 0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:46.680 the ball is It's just I do think he had 0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:49.200 a chance to make a play on that deep ball early. 0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:50.680 It was a good throw, but it was not an 0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:53.240 easy catch it and they weren't there weren't great throws. 0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:55.360 But I think Jacobe ended up with six catches on 0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:58.480 twelve targets. Yeah, I mean, but look at the yards 0:29:58.480 --> 0:30:01.080 to like forty four yards for forty four for Born, 0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:03.880 forty one and forty one for Bold and thirty four 0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:07.040 for Agad. There's like no yards, you know, like nothing, 0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:09.080 I mean, how many third and shorts were they in? 0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:11.160 I mean it's just you know, everything was That's the thing, 0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:13.640 Like six or fifteen doesn't sound terrible until you consider 0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:15.680 they needed like an average of like five yards on 0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:18.760 third down. All night. Right, all right, thank you to 0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:22.080 Theora gun. I've been using very much for theat gun. 0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:24.000 It's been awesome. I've been using my theare gun a 0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:27.480 lot lately. It's fantastic. It's the only physician created percussive 0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:32.520 therapy device releases deep muscle tensions and aches which it's 0:30:32.560 --> 0:30:37.000 scientifically calibrated combination of depth, speed, empower. Trusted by two 0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:40.360 hundred and fifty professional sports teams. 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But I thought we battled, 0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:25.040 battled horror. Yeah, just like I said, eight penalties and 0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:27.200 two turnovers in December is not gonna win a lot 0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:29.240 of football games. So you know, it's all for the 0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:32.720 Colts are good defense, good team, but you know, definitely 0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:37.520 some things we gotta do better. It's a Patriots Center 0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:40.360 David Andrews post game, and thank you to Microsoft and 0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:43.920 our partner Microsoft. Windows eleven, the official operating system of 0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:46.600 the NFL and the new England Patriots. The all new 0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:48.520 Windows eleven is here to bring you closer to what 0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:51.479 you love. Like the Patriots postgame show. Learned about all 0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:54.600 the awesome new features of Windows eleven at Windows dot com. 0:33:54.800 --> 0:33:56.680 David Andrews gets a bit of a pass. Get a 0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:59.920 new baby at home, sleep deprived, so Hunter Henry too. 0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:05.400 He still cut two touchdowns. So yeah, I don't are 0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:07.160 you talking about the offensive line to pick on the 0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:09.400 center too much, you know, unless he's like, you know, 0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:18.440 just sounds right. That was that was a joke. That 0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:20.880 was snark. To be fair, it looked like the problems 0:34:20.880 --> 0:34:23.560 tonight we're coming from the edges. Yes, that would Yeah, 0:34:23.800 --> 0:34:26.240 speed Colts, I mean a lot of that toss stuff. 0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:28.279 They weren't having any of that. It's amazing, Like you 0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:31.560 don't have to be really big to play defense. Wow, 0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:37.640 and that wasn't Yeah, but I'm you know, I'm picking 0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:40.600 on the inside linebackers with the Colts because they're so little. 0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:45.200 I'm looking looking at Amazon. They're strong. They were attacking Stevenson. 0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:47.839 Darius learn is a really good player, Like he's been 0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:49.800 a really good player since he's coming into the league. 0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:52.239 See that's so things like guys like that where you 0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:54.880 spent all week talking about I'm pumping him up and 0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:57.359 then he does what you've been talking about the whole week. 0:34:57.400 --> 0:34:59.440 Those are the guys that are real good. And the 0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:01.839 difference between tonight in the seventh game winning streak because 0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:03.759 Darius Leonard gets hurt on the first play of the 0:35:03.760 --> 0:35:06.520 game but came back on the third play of the game. 0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:09.120 Three weeks ago, he would have been out for the 0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:13.080 game right week. Let's go to the phones eight five 0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:15.200 five Pats five hundred. Will you begin with Spi and 0:35:15.320 --> 0:35:20.000 Fresno on the Patriots postgame show. Hello, Paul, I agree, 0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:23.120 it's definitely a regression to the early season clause they had. 0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:26.279 But um, but hardy um. I know you're you're a 0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:28.520 Lions fan, and so do you. Playing in the league 0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:31.800 is basically the same as losing. But this they needed 0:35:31.840 --> 0:35:35.680 to lose to take is totally useless. Um. I know 0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:38.560 you know, if if they won tonight, it wouldn't even 0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:40.360 matter to people like you who have already given the 0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:42.960 Chiefs abode of the Super Bowl. But I don't share 0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:45.080 your loser's mentality. I think it would have. Actually, I 0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:49.279 would have preferred that they won. It's not good, rob okay, right, 0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:55.040 sounds like you're having an argument with yourself. But absolutely 0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:57.640 that's a super Bowl contending team you saw there to night. 0:35:57.640 --> 0:36:01.960 They're just like the Chiefs. They're just as good. I've 0:36:02.000 --> 0:36:04.640 told you. I told you in the pregame show. Listen 0:36:04.719 --> 0:36:07.879 to Patriots Unfiltered. They'll tell you what the teams are 0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:11.200 around the league. The Chiefs suck, right, they beat the 0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:16.200 Raiders twice, the Chargers that the Packers without Rogers, Cowboys 0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:20.040 without Cooper. They suck. What do you want me to 0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:22.720 say if you thought you were watching a team worthy 0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:25.200 of talking about being in the Super Bowl through the 0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:27.799 first three quarters of that game tonight. I'd love to 0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:31.360 hear from it. And uh and and I do believe 0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:34.680 that there is some value in getting humbled at this 0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:38.880 point as opposed to say next week against Buffalo or 0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:42.840 maybe your first playoff game. No, so I want to 0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:46.600 learn some lessons earlier, as opposed too late. I want 0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:50.440 to apologize because it's it's Microsoft right sponsors. The quote 0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:52.400 that we just had from David Andrews, Yeah, you know, 0:36:52.480 --> 0:36:56.360 I play, So we missed the we missed the money quote. 0:36:57.200 --> 0:37:04.239 Question what happened on the block on Belichick quote? We 0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:10.319 didn't block the guy quote? There you go. Bill also 0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:12.160 said we didn't do anything well enough to win, didn't 0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:14.640 play well, didn't coach well. Yeah, I caught that. He 0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:18.920 also opened it up with talking about extending sympathies to 0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:20.719 Ryan Kelly and his family. I'm still not sure what 0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:23.600 exactly happened. It's a personal situation. I don't know what 0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:28.279 it is, and I hadn't seen. Yeah, I didn't know. 0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:32.279 I didn't know what that situation was, but obviously it's significant. 0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:37.320 Ye Walter in Ukraine, Hello, gentlemingredients from Ukraine. Tough loss, 0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:40.640 nice comeback, hearty over time, you've changed my mind. When 0:37:40.680 --> 0:37:43.440 you first started doing the show, I hated you, but 0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:45.319 I must admit you've grown up. I mean, I find 0:37:45.360 --> 0:37:47.920 myself agreeing with you more. But today was the topper. 0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:50.520 I didn't wish for the Pads to lose like you, 0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:52.640 but agreed that they were due for it. Maybe even 0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:57.759 needed a humility and intensity check or a reality check. Intensity, 0:37:57.840 --> 0:38:00.120 I think is the word that someone else here used. 0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:04.120 After all, this was Indies self proclaimed yeah, biggest game. 0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:06.840 I no, no, I didn't want to put words in 0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:08.439 your mouth if I didn't know if it was Paul 0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:12.319 or Mike um uh self proclaimed biggest game in ten years. 0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:15.680 And obviously the Pats were not ready for the immediate intensity, 0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:18.759 speed and the carnival atmosphere at the starts was the 0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:21.560 biggest game in what and it cost them? Uh Indie 0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:26.000 self proclaimed biggest game in ten years? Okay, yes, um. 0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:28.719 I did see some very encouraging signs of fire and 0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:31.480 fight back in the second half for both Mac and 0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:34.400 the offense and our defense. But I hopefully they use 0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:36.799 it as a wake up calling, a motivator for the 0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:39.040 level of play they need to rise to to end 0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:43.880 the season and to start the playoffs. Did the Patriots 0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:46.239 beat the Colts in like the AFC Championship game and 0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:50.040 like fourteen? Yeah, but the Colts knew they were going 0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:53.600 to lose that one wasn't wasn't a big game. Um, 0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:56.239 that's Walter and Ukraine. Thank you, Walter. No, I'm making 0:38:56.280 --> 0:38:58.040 fun of the Colts, not Walter. Let me let me 0:38:58.080 --> 0:39:01.520 because he said the Colts self proclaimed right, like the culture, 0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:05.520 like the cults are not like sorry, Hardy the Lions. 0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:08.640 The Colts have been in the playoffs. They were in 0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:11.520 the playoffs last year. Notice I'm not getting personal back. 0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:13.120 I don't feel there's any need for it. This is 0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:15.799 about the team. This is and I don't think there's 0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:19.080 any I don't take any joy from this tonight. But 0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:21.640 I'm trying to look ahead. I'm just trying to set 0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:25.920 myself up for the distinct possibility. And I thought it 0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:28.160 a probability that they were going to drop one of 0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:30.440 these games on the way in. So let's do it. 0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:32.840 Now we are. We all decided, if they're going to 0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:35.640 split between A Year and Buffalo, which one would you 0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:39.440 rather lose. I'd rather lose none, but yes, okay, if 0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:41.319 I had to lose one, Tonight's the one I would 0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:45.719 have chose, okay, because now you can't lose. That's right now, 0:39:45.800 --> 0:39:48.520 and it's it's it's basically the England verse Buffalo for 0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:53.000 the ACU who if you lose next week, there is 0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:57.120 a I would say ninety five plus percent chance you 0:39:57.239 --> 0:40:01.000 do not win the division. Correct the the Bill. Listen, 0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:03.560 the Bills are seven and six right now. I'm not 0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:05.840 penciling and wins for the Bills, just like I'm not 0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:08.440 penciling him and for the Patriots. But the Bills have 0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:13.960 at home the Panthers, the Falcons and the Jets. They 0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:19.040 should not lose any of those three games. Therefore, if 0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:22.000 they win next week, they're going to be the AFC 0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:24.440 East champs because if they tie for the division, the 0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:28.600 Bills have the division tiebreaker based on AFC East record. 0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:31.760 But now they've lost, they're mad. They're going to refocus 0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:34.440 on the Bills and smash them, right, I would like 0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:37.399 to think so, So we have a good pregame show 0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:41.440 for you next week, all right, joya Christmas. That'll do 0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:44.120 it for this Patriots postgame show. No, we can't, we can't. 0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:49.359 How it works close another hour plus? Okay? In that case, well, 0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:53.400 happily we have some some some calls to get us through. Yes, uh, 0:40:53.800 --> 0:40:56.200 we do have time for you, John and Norwell, so 0:40:56.520 --> 0:40:58.920 they're welcome into the Patriots post game show. It's presented 0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:05.920 by Cyber Reason. John. All right, John, John, callback if 0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:08.160 you want to, we'll go to Brady in Iowa instead. 0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:14.280 Hearts post game. You're welcome. Hi Brady, what's going on? Hey, fellas, 0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:16.960 thanks for having me. Um. I just want to talk 0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:21.120 a little bit about the field goal decision. Um, So, 0:41:21.280 --> 0:41:23.800 just thinking about the situation of the game. There was 0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:25.880 nine minutes left to give or take a you know, 0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:28.800 few secs bout him though, but we had three time outs, 0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:31.560 our defense was heating up, you know, we were starting 0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:34.760 to come alive a little bit. I didn't totally mind it, obviously, 0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:37.799 if we don't get them, you know, if we don't 0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:40.040 have the false start, we're obviously going for it there. 0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:43.240 But you know, thinking about it, it's a little bit harder. 0:41:44.120 --> 0:41:46.319 We kicked the field goal all of a sudden. We 0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:48.480 make it a situation where there's you know, there's nine 0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:51.040 minutes left. You know, if we if we if we 0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:53.919 make a defensive stop, which we didn't, we can make 0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:55.560 that you know, we can go down the field, we 0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:57.440 can kick a field goal, we can score a touchdown 0:41:57.520 --> 0:41:59.359 rather than have to punch it amends of a couple 0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:02.759 of times secure certain thoughts there. Well, I'm sure that's 0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:04.680 what Bill was thinking, and he just said he did 0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:06.319 what he thought was best for the team, which is 0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:10.440 the predictable answer to that question. Um, but I think Mike, really, 0:42:11.320 --> 0:42:13.680 I think he painted the picture properly. I think it 0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:16.799 changed the mentality for the Colts. I thought I thought 0:42:16.800 --> 0:42:19.360 it made the Colts job of running out the clock 0:42:19.840 --> 0:42:23.239 much easier knowing that they had nine minutes in a 0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:27.160 two score game. Yeah, rather than the possibility either way. 0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:28.879 If you don't get it, it's a two score game. 0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:31.200 If you kick a field goal, it's a two score game. 0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:33.920 The only way you could have changed I think the 0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:37.200 game pressure is by going forward and fourth down and succeeding. 0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:39.680 I don't think there was a I don't think there 0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:43.319 was a huge difference between being down ten and being 0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:48.879 down right. I don't still you're still going for the win, 0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:50.839 you know, I mean, you get a touchdown there, you're 0:42:50.960 --> 0:42:54.520 you're you're a touchdown away from twenty one twenty. I 0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:58.600 just I'm not one to get into these decisions and 0:42:58.600 --> 0:43:00.440 get too fired up. But this one, I just I 0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:03.640 feel like it's a trade off between basically settling for 0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:06.400 we still need two of possessions and now we're basically 0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:08.239 paying for the tie if we can get a field goal, 0:43:08.760 --> 0:43:12.400 whereas if another one. Okay, and maybe you know, this 0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:15.240 is the difference between like two two and a half minutes. 0:43:16.520 --> 0:43:19.000 The Colts went for a fourth thousand inches on their 0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:21.919 own side of the field with a twenty to ten lead. 0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:25.200 Do they do that if it's twenty to fourteen. It's 0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:28.080 a good point. Maybe maybe he would have. Maybe he 0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:30.080 would have. I mean, I'll give Frank right credit tonight. 0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:32.480 He went for it like I think three times. That's yeah, 0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:34.719 that was almost some more juice behind it. Yeah you do, 0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:38.560 you don't know. It changes the tone completely. So yeah, 0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:40.439 And that's how it's one other thing too. I wanted 0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:42.600 to mention Paul, that's that's circling this because we've been 0:43:42.640 --> 0:43:44.959 talking about some of the early season mistakes and things 0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:48.000 that pop back up. I think some of the lack 0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:49.680 of clutch on the defense, you know, I think they 0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:53.359 assume it's a great point. It's another piece of that 0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:56.400 early kind of struggle that you know, they they did 0:43:56.480 --> 0:43:57.920 give the team a little bit of an opportunity to 0:43:57.920 --> 0:43:59.360 the red zone stops and stuff like that, but you know, 0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:00.840 when you really need did that stop at the end 0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:04.440 of the five minute drive. It was a big It 0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:08.120 was the first stepping up and really, you know, so 0:44:08.239 --> 0:44:10.440 in the in the in the seven game, what's count tonight? 0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:13.000 So it's I'm just gonna say, the seven game winning 0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:15.560 streak is now eight games. They lost tonight, obviously, but 0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:19.680 so when that eight game stretched, this is the first 0:44:19.719 --> 0:44:24.279 time that they were losing by two scores. It's the 0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:27.520 first time that they were losing at all since Week ten. 0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:31.560 They were only trailing in the seven game win streak 0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:35.319 three times. They were trailing in the fourth quarter in 0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:39.759 la they were trailing in the second quarter in Carolina, 0:44:39.840 --> 0:44:42.120 and they gave up an opening touchdown to Cleveland in 0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:45.400 week ten and then scored the next forty five points, 0:44:46.160 --> 0:44:49.800 Which is a long way of saying what Mike said, 0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:52.640 this is the first time they've had any pressure on 0:44:52.680 --> 0:44:57.200 them in a game since those first six games. And 0:44:57.320 --> 0:44:59.520 in the first six games, four out of six times 0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:02.640 you didn't hold up to the pressure of the game. Tonight. 0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:06.600 You made it five out of seven times, do you 0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:09.919 know what I'm saying. Yeah, Like maybe you want to say, 0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:12.279 I'll give you the Chargers as a game, pressure game 0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:15.319 that they held up to because that was a you know, 0:45:15.360 --> 0:45:17.040 that was a close game. Even after you get the 0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:18.560 pick six, you had to get off the field, and 0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:20.600 they did and then they got a nice drive. They 0:45:20.600 --> 0:45:23.480 had to make it a ten point game. But that 0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:28.480 was reminiscent of say, the Saints game where they had 0:45:28.480 --> 0:45:30.160 a chance, or the Miami game where they had a 0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:33.720 chance to get off the field even though you were playing, 0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:37.880 like especially against the Saints, I thought they played reasonably 0:45:37.920 --> 0:45:40.880 good defensively in that game. Mack killed him that day 0:45:40.920 --> 0:45:43.239 with the three picks, but the two picks especially. They 0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:45.239 had a pick six and another pick that was run 0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:48.880 back inside the ten, so they really the defense was 0:45:48.920 --> 0:45:50.840 putting a lot of bad spots that day. But after 0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:53.440 all of that, they get within a score. They were 0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:55.960 down eight in the fourth quarter. They just needed to stop, 0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:57.919 and the Saints went right down the field and scored. 0:45:57.960 --> 0:46:00.160 And that was reminiscent to me of the last ten 0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:03.040 minutes of this game. They needed to stop and the 0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:06.520 Colts had two possessions and they couldn't stop him, like 0:46:06.560 --> 0:46:08.600 they took five minutes off the clock on one. And 0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:11.000 there's the Jonathan Taylor run that that Ice did. Yeah, 0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:12.800 I haven't gotten a good look at this one yet. 0:46:12.960 --> 0:46:16.280 Watch mccordy, watch high Tower missus the tackle and mccordy 0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:21.120 is way out of position. Oh whoops now and then 0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:23.680 a little bit yeah, and he ran away from you. 0:46:23.840 --> 0:46:26.720 It's a good point, Hardy, which you wouldn't expect. Jackson's 0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:30.399 pretty fast. Um, I'm gonna give him Accordy a little 0:46:30.400 --> 0:46:32.600 bit of a pass because you got eleven. It's it's 0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:35.120 it's all eleven, you know what I mean. Yeah, that's 0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:38.719 not he's not playing traditional safety there. He's just he's 0:46:38.760 --> 0:46:40.839 coming up oh hell bent for leather on that place. 0:46:40.840 --> 0:46:42.239 So I'll give him a little bit of a pass. 0:46:42.840 --> 0:46:46.799 But listen, I said it, said it at the time, 0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:48.360 and I said it at the beginning of the show. 0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:51.239 There's not that much difference between what Jonathan Taylor did 0:46:51.239 --> 0:46:53.840 tonight to what the Patriots did to Buffalo two weeks 0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:56.440 And I saw somebody tweeted out a comparison which was 0:46:56.520 --> 0:46:59.920 kind of striking really about you know, Wentz had five passes. 0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:01.440 I wish I could find the tweet, but it was 0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:04.240 perfectly kind of lined up. I mean, it was essentially 0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:07.680 the same, the same games. I hear it is Patriots 0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:10.359 beat Bills throwing three passes and running for two twenty two, 0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:13.959 Colts beat Patriots completing five and running for two twenty six. 0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:18.520 Kind kind of crazy. Yep, that's exactly now. I would 0:47:18.560 --> 0:47:24.239 say that it's a little different because the Patriots had 0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:27.239 to play conventional defense for the most part. What I'm 0:47:27.280 --> 0:47:30.840 comparing to Buffalo is the fourth quarter when it was 0:47:30.880 --> 0:47:33.200 apparent those last two drives that Wentz wasn't going to 0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:36.320 throw it again. They're just gonna run it and you 0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:41.040 couldn't stop them. I don't follow Bill Simmons on Twitter, 0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:44.719 so I don't know if this is something he regularly does. 0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:47.799 I've seen a quote tweeted a lot tonight, though, his 0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:51.000 tweet from forty eight minutes ago tough Pats lost too 0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:55.680 many mistakes and Wentz was just too much and people 0:47:55.719 --> 0:47:59.640 are losing their minds in the replies, and Jimmy, Jimmy 0:47:59.680 --> 0:48:02.240 didn't watched the game without telling me, you didn't watch 0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:06.200 the game? You serious can? I obvious troll job but 0:48:06.480 --> 0:48:09.080 I don't is this something I got believe that anybody? Oh, 0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:10.480 I don't know if it's something he does, but I 0:48:10.480 --> 0:48:13.400 mean it's pretty obvious that that's well they're broadcasting. There 0:48:13.400 --> 0:48:16.400 are now two hundred and eighty seven people who feel differently, 0:48:16.400 --> 0:48:18.480 but they're all like making fun of him as opposed 0:48:18.480 --> 0:48:22.520 to laughing with him. Um once was nothing but a 0:48:22.560 --> 0:48:25.919 game manager in this game. That's from Laurie. Um went 0:48:25.960 --> 0:48:29.279 through for fifty seven yards. Did you even watch the game? Yes, 0:48:29.400 --> 0:48:34.440 it's it's unbelievable. That's unbelievable. All right, let's go to 0:48:34.520 --> 0:48:39.200 Cole in Hawaii on the Patriots postgame show. Hello Cole, Hey, 0:48:39.200 --> 0:48:42.440 it's up guy. What's going on? All right? So I 0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:44.840 was so I was going to talk about that fourth 0:48:44.880 --> 0:48:49.839 down um in the end? Yeah, when um right after 0:48:49.880 --> 0:48:55.080 the Michael Um. Yeah, yeah, we start so as you 0:48:55.080 --> 0:48:57.160 guys were talking about if they had gone for it 0:48:57.200 --> 0:49:01.160 and gotten that that touchdown, right, UM, I feel like 0:49:01.160 --> 0:49:04.160 they would have had a much higher chance of getting 0:49:04.160 --> 0:49:06.719 that touchdown, especially with I mean, if you go back 0:49:06.760 --> 0:49:08.960 and look at all the touchdowns that Hunter Henry's hat, 0:49:09.000 --> 0:49:12.480 they've all been you know, seven yards, eight yards, six yards, 0:49:12.480 --> 0:49:15.759 like all right in that range, and it seems like 0:49:15.760 --> 0:49:19.200 like even there's two other touchdowns, they were eight yards right. 0:49:19.960 --> 0:49:22.520 Or do you think if they had gone for it 0:49:22.520 --> 0:49:25.360 they would have gone to um like Hunter Henry or 0:49:25.360 --> 0:49:28.120 where they were right? Like, what do you think they 0:49:28.120 --> 0:49:30.359 would have done had they choose chosen to go for it? 0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:33.080 Go to Hunter Huns was what was working. I just 0:49:33.120 --> 0:49:34.920 I would have liked to try it, because even if 0:49:34.960 --> 0:49:37.319 you don't get it, there's two scores down, they're going 0:49:37.360 --> 0:49:39.560 to take the ball right over again, right where you are, 0:49:39.640 --> 0:49:41.759 and you get a chance to stop them deep in 0:49:41.800 --> 0:49:44.600 their own town. I'm with you, Cole. I would have 0:49:44.640 --> 0:49:46.919 gone for it, and you know, certainly Hunter Henry would 0:49:46.960 --> 0:49:50.320 have made sense. Yep. Honestly, I was sitting here like 0:49:50.440 --> 0:49:52.640 yelling at my at my tablet, like, go for it, 0:49:52.719 --> 0:49:54.839 go for it, go for it. Try that next time. 0:49:54.880 --> 0:49:57.479 Maybe it'll work. I don't know, you don't know. Until 0:49:57.480 --> 0:50:00.680 it did. I wish it did. Yell louder next time. Uh. 0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:06.239 Brandon in Atlanta on the Patriots Falls Game Show. Hello Brandon, Hey, 0:50:06.320 --> 0:50:12.600 what's up? Um? Uh? Sorry? Um? Yeah, I'm just really uh, 0:50:12.760 --> 0:50:14.880 you know, like I say, every time we lose, I 0:50:14.880 --> 0:50:17.840 appreciate Shaw because I really need these to get me 0:50:17.920 --> 0:50:22.239 through these losses. Um, the almost comeback kind of makes 0:50:22.239 --> 0:50:25.920 me feel better, but I mean still, it's it's it's unfortunate. 0:50:26.560 --> 0:50:30.120 But um, I really think I wanted to touch on 0:50:30.120 --> 0:50:33.120 a few things. So I really think that we we 0:50:33.280 --> 0:50:38.040 dodged two bullets by m Dereck Henry and Nick Chubb 0:50:38.239 --> 0:50:41.120 not playing because I think this would have been the 0:50:41.160 --> 0:50:44.920 same result with them that we just had with Jonathan Taylor, 0:50:45.440 --> 0:50:49.239 and that might be a big picture takeaway from this game. 0:50:49.560 --> 0:50:54.320 That's a really good point. Yeah, and uh, I'm worried 0:50:54.320 --> 0:50:58.160 about the Buffalo game just because on paper and obviously 0:50:58.200 --> 0:51:03.160 you play on the field, the Buffalo has a better team, 0:51:03.239 --> 0:51:06.560 Like like Hardy said, they are for the most part. 0:51:06.880 --> 0:51:09.040 You know, if you if you know football and you're 0:51:09.080 --> 0:51:12.239 looking just on paper, Yeah, they're a better team. And 0:51:12.400 --> 0:51:16.200 we don't really have home field advantage because we've lost 0:51:16.239 --> 0:51:18.319 a lot of games at home this year. So I'm 0:51:18.360 --> 0:51:21.200 just worried about that. But I'll stress out over that 0:51:21.280 --> 0:51:23.960 over the week. I'm not I'm not gonna focus on 0:51:23.960 --> 0:51:26.919 that tonight. Yeah you know what, Okay, I'll go ahead 0:51:26.960 --> 0:51:29.440 and finish Brandon, because you said something interesting too about 0:51:29.440 --> 0:51:33.879 home field, But go ahead, right. I have a theory. 0:51:34.680 --> 0:51:37.439 Maybe it's a conspiracy theory. Call me crazy. I think 0:51:37.440 --> 0:51:39.680 the Chargers lost that game on purpose to the Chiefs 0:51:39.960 --> 0:51:43.520 because we beat them badly last year, we beat them 0:51:43.560 --> 0:51:45.400 this year, and I think they did it at as 0:51:45.480 --> 0:51:48.719 like that's my story. Wow, all right, Brandon, thanks for 0:51:48.760 --> 0:51:52.040 the call. Uh yeah, there's a differentult call. There's a 0:51:52.160 --> 0:51:56.879 different here's Brandon Staley isn't advanced analytics, so I don't. Yeah, 0:51:57.000 --> 0:51:59.279 the percentages said that they have a better chance of 0:51:59.320 --> 0:52:01.800 going to the wind as in a three six matchup. 0:52:02.160 --> 0:52:05.360 That's what he did. Yeah, uh, not kicking any field. 0:52:05.440 --> 0:52:07.400 It's not even gonna bring a kicker. There's a difference 0:52:07.440 --> 0:52:11.720 between having a true home field advantage and not having 0:52:12.960 --> 0:52:16.600 in a home field disadvantage. Okay, so the Patriots may 0:52:16.600 --> 0:52:19.360 not have a true home field advantage like other teams 0:52:19.440 --> 0:52:22.080 do or to the same extent, especially when you based 0:52:22.120 --> 0:52:25.879 on their home record this year. But all things being equal, yes, 0:52:25.920 --> 0:52:28.200 they'd rather be at home. But they played well on 0:52:28.239 --> 0:52:31.000 the road tonight, you know, tonight as the outlier in 0:52:31.080 --> 0:52:34.600 terms of how they've handled themselves, and and it was 0:52:34.640 --> 0:52:37.240 really it was kind of startling to see Matt get 0:52:37.960 --> 0:52:40.279 I think put off by the it's the first time 0:52:40.280 --> 0:52:43.120 I've seen him rattled. Yeah, rat he I thought he 0:52:43.200 --> 0:52:47.320 was visibly rattled tonight he was. He kept fighting visible 0:52:47.680 --> 0:52:50.320 I'm not taking that away from eating quit visibly rattled. 0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:53.000 And then on the sideline after after that first pick 0:52:53.040 --> 0:52:56.040 and again after he was he was kind of in shock. 0:52:59.360 --> 0:53:04.040 And you know, it's listen to go six and one 0:53:04.080 --> 0:53:07.080 on the road, I don't care who you play. That's 0:53:07.160 --> 0:53:10.000 really impressive. It's not easy to win games in the NFL, 0:53:10.040 --> 0:53:11.799 and it's certainly not easy to win them on the road, 0:53:11.840 --> 0:53:15.160 and they went six and one, so far, right, But 0:53:15.239 --> 0:53:18.799 can we also say, like if they had the home 0:53:18.880 --> 0:53:23.279 schedule that they've had on the road, that they would 0:53:23.360 --> 0:53:25.279 have like five lots, you know what I mean, Like 0:53:25.320 --> 0:53:27.080 they would have lost all those games on the road, 0:53:27.160 --> 0:53:29.640 like they would have lost to the Buccaneers. Sometimes it 0:53:29.719 --> 0:53:32.640 just comes down to who you play and wear. Yeah, Like, 0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:37.120 does anybody think that when they lost to Tampa and 0:53:37.200 --> 0:53:39.160 Dallas that if those games were on the road that 0:53:39.160 --> 0:53:41.640 would have been the difference they would have won them. No, Like, 0:53:42.080 --> 0:53:45.080 so to suggest like to see it, well, they haven't 0:53:45.080 --> 0:53:50.319 played well like they haven't played well at home, so 0:53:50.440 --> 0:53:52.000 I don't know how much that matters. And I'm not 0:53:52.040 --> 0:53:53.880 picked like that. I know that that's not what Brandon 0:53:54.000 --> 0:53:56.359 was saying, like I'm but I have heard a little 0:53:56.400 --> 0:53:59.719 of this um this like sort of mentality like how 0:54:00.040 --> 0:54:02.719 Porton is the bye? How important really is it because 0:54:02.719 --> 0:54:05.600 they haven't played well at home. Well, when you're playing 0:54:06.239 --> 0:54:08.120 in the playoffs, you're gonna be playing against the team 0:54:08.120 --> 0:54:11.439 that's good because they're all good. All the playoff teams 0:54:11.480 --> 0:54:13.600 are in the AFC are going to be good. You 0:54:13.680 --> 0:54:19.160 might see this team again, right, so obviously you'd rather 0:54:19.200 --> 0:54:22.960 play at home, absolutely, Like I don't want to go 0:54:23.040 --> 0:54:25.640 back to Indy. I don't want to go to Kansas 0:54:25.640 --> 0:54:29.759 City or two, I don't want to go to LA. Like, 0:54:29.920 --> 0:54:33.520 you lose next week, you're probably going to go somewhere 0:54:33.600 --> 0:54:36.919 in the first round. Like that's how quick it can change. 0:54:37.239 --> 0:54:40.280 You went from having a bye in the first round 0:54:40.480 --> 0:54:42.560 to being on the road in the first round if 0:54:42.600 --> 0:54:45.920 you lose next week. Yeah, kind of interesting. Matt Jones 0:54:46.320 --> 0:54:49.040 at the podium now saying, didn't have a great, great 0:54:49.040 --> 0:54:51.120 week of practice. The energy was kind of low. I 0:54:51.800 --> 0:54:54.160 hate how we played. Can I tell you how much 0:54:54.200 --> 0:54:58.280 that this is a comment that I get after almost 0:54:58.320 --> 0:55:02.200 every loss. We didn't practice well this week? Please like 0:55:02.680 --> 0:55:04.600 I hate it. I hate it, I hate it, I 0:55:04.600 --> 0:55:06.799 hate it. Tell me that beforehand. I don't know what 0:55:06.880 --> 0:55:10.680 struggled that practices. But going back to you know, when 0:55:10.680 --> 0:55:12.360 they were the top seed in the AFC and the 0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:15.760 best record in the AFC, and that, did that feel 0:55:16.680 --> 0:55:20.560 more authentic than this feels now where it's a team 0:55:20.560 --> 0:55:22.440 that's kind of on the bubble and you're you're in 0:55:22.480 --> 0:55:26.200 a fight for the division and a fight for seating 0:55:26.280 --> 0:55:29.239 in the AFC. Or did it feel more authentic when 0:55:29.239 --> 0:55:31.640 the Patriots were the number one seed in the conference, 0:55:32.360 --> 0:55:34.919 which which I mean it was more realistic? I mean, 0:55:34.960 --> 0:55:37.879 I mean probably then, just because you had certain things 0:55:37.880 --> 0:55:40.959 that you certainly believed about that team, like with Tom 0:55:41.000 --> 0:55:43.680 Brady and who no, no, no, no, I'm talking this season, 0:55:43.880 --> 0:55:46.520 this season, this season, say so, say it again? Then 0:55:46.560 --> 0:55:48.560 so a couple of weeks ago Pats are the number 0:55:48.560 --> 0:55:52.760 one seed in the af No, did what feels more authentic? This? 0:55:52.760 --> 0:55:55.040 This fee is what they are and this and that's 0:55:55.040 --> 0:55:57.640 why you know not to I mean, unfortunately I picked 0:55:57.680 --> 0:56:00.640 the score tonight. I mean I thought they were gonna lose. Um, 0:56:00.640 --> 0:56:05.040 not not necessarily, because you know what, that's a bad 0:56:05.160 --> 0:56:11.040 job by us, Paul, not a problem. It's Deuce correctly 0:56:11.320 --> 0:56:15.560 predicted the outcome down to the score. I haven't written 0:56:15.560 --> 0:56:19.160 down here, might go back like, listen, it doesn't happen, 0:56:19.200 --> 0:56:21.800 It doesn't happen. No, I didn't didn't feel good. I 0:56:21.840 --> 0:56:24.320 didn't feel good, and I got on Twitter. But everybody know, 0:56:24.440 --> 0:56:26.720 everybody knows that you didn't want them Blue. I didn't 0:56:26.760 --> 0:56:28.800 think that this, you know, I just like you said, 0:56:28.960 --> 0:56:31.160 I have a lot of respect for who they are 0:56:31.200 --> 0:56:33.080 and the kind of team they become. But I didn't 0:56:33.080 --> 0:56:35.239 think that they were the number one seed gonna run 0:56:35.239 --> 0:56:37.800 the table and run everybody like. They are a team 0:56:37.800 --> 0:56:40.600 that's still figuring themselves out a little bit to some extent, 0:56:40.680 --> 0:56:43.120 even as much as they have figured themselves out. And 0:56:43.160 --> 0:56:44.440 I just don't see how you can look at the 0:56:44.480 --> 0:56:47.040 wind streak and who they played and how those games 0:56:47.120 --> 0:56:50.200 unfolded and not see, Hey, if a team does this 0:56:50.280 --> 0:56:52.520 to them and they get the takeaways, it could easily 0:56:52.520 --> 0:56:55.200 flip flop on you. And that's what I think happened tonight. 0:56:55.239 --> 0:56:57.480 I don't know how they're going to bounce back against 0:56:57.520 --> 0:56:59.520 the Bills next week. I know that now their backs 0:56:59.520 --> 0:57:01.279 are kind of against the wall again. Maybe this is 0:57:01.280 --> 0:57:04.040 a familiar feeling to them. Hopefully it spurs a much 0:57:04.080 --> 0:57:06.440 better effort uh in the game, and you know, you 0:57:06.480 --> 0:57:08.360 can see it coming back home. They've been away for 0:57:08.400 --> 0:57:10.200 a while. It feels like they haven't played here and forever. 0:57:10.280 --> 0:57:13.480 So Sanders says, this is feels like the worst Patriots 0:57:13.560 --> 0:57:16.840 game I've watched since the Kansas City game in twoy fourteen, 0:57:18.480 --> 0:57:21.880 which I don't I would know the Detroit the Detroit loss. Yeah, 0:57:21.920 --> 0:57:27.200 that was that was Dallas in Week six. See I 0:57:27.200 --> 0:57:30.440 I think I think Kansas City was was worse because 0:57:30.480 --> 0:57:34.440 there was never any hope. You had, you know, Brady 0:57:34.520 --> 0:57:37.400 out of that game much earlier than any other game 0:57:37.440 --> 0:57:39.919 I remember seeing them in. I mean, it was done, 0:57:39.960 --> 0:57:43.800 that game was over, That game was finished at I 0:57:43.920 --> 0:57:48.040 just watched the the latest UM episode of The Man 0:57:48.120 --> 0:57:51.040 in the Arena and that was the that's the twenty 0:57:51.240 --> 0:57:55.080 fourteen one and that's that. That game gets obviously a 0:57:55.080 --> 0:57:57.520 good amount of attention, that Kansas City game, and it 0:57:57.640 --> 0:58:01.160 was it was everybody as bad as you remember. They 0:58:01.160 --> 0:58:04.440 couldn't stop the Jamal Charles. I think Jamal Charles just 0:58:04.680 --> 0:58:07.920 running all over the It is funny though I used 0:58:07.960 --> 0:58:11.560 to I used to say, like, even when they get dominated, 0:58:11.640 --> 0:58:13.760 they never really get blown out, and that was that 0:58:13.840 --> 0:58:15.360 was a rare time that they got blown and that 0:58:15.440 --> 0:58:17.520 was one of those rare times. But I feel like tonight, 0:58:17.600 --> 0:58:20.280 tonight was one of those dominated but they found a 0:58:20.320 --> 0:58:22.160 way to not get blown out. They found a way 0:58:22.200 --> 0:58:24.960 to stay in the game even though, like I said, 0:58:25.160 --> 0:58:26.960 and there's gonna be a lot of this this week, 0:58:27.080 --> 0:58:30.120 people will be making fun like they never got the 0:58:30.120 --> 0:58:33.520 ball down a score, so they never had a chance 0:58:33.520 --> 0:58:36.320 to win the game, right, Like, they never got the 0:58:36.360 --> 0:58:38.560 ball with a chance to tie or take the lead, 0:58:38.680 --> 0:58:42.560 right right. That was after that Kansas City game that 0:58:42.640 --> 0:58:45.000 was the start of the Brady and Decline era. On 0:58:45.480 --> 0:58:53.000 over on your station there, Paul, that's perfect for that chair. 0:58:53.040 --> 0:58:58.240 Though that's exactly Addison and Fresno. So I was wrong. Well, 0:58:58.240 --> 0:59:01.120 this lass may not technically end a season, it definitely 0:59:01.160 --> 0:59:03.880 feels like the Patriots lost any shot at going to 0:59:03.920 --> 0:59:06.640 the super Bowl, which I foolishly allowed myself to believe 0:59:06.680 --> 0:59:09.000 they could do in the first place. I understand in 0:59:09.000 --> 0:59:12.919 comparison the beginning of the seasons expectations. But I'd also 0:59:12.960 --> 0:59:16.200 like to apologize to Eric that was mean but correct. 0:59:16.560 --> 0:59:18.200 I must have met having called in just a few 0:59:18.240 --> 0:59:20.800 times in this nerve wracking given props from being able 0:59:20.800 --> 0:59:23.800 to go on the air, um Addison, this is where 0:59:23.840 --> 0:59:27.200 I feel like I'm actually more positive. Where I say no, 0:59:27.400 --> 0:59:31.760 I kind of show a contrarian. I know I borderline 0:59:31.840 --> 0:59:35.000 wanted this for the team, but at the very least 0:59:35.640 --> 0:59:38.080 I'm accepting of a loss at this point in the 0:59:38.120 --> 0:59:41.480 season because I'd rather have it now. Rather have it 0:59:41.560 --> 0:59:44.520 now now, I'm all in. I'm pushing all the chips 0:59:44.560 --> 0:59:47.040 in on Buffalo a week from them. I just think 0:59:47.080 --> 0:59:49.480 if you and I know that what your point is, 0:59:49.520 --> 0:59:52.160 and you're right, you know, if you're looking at it realistically, 0:59:52.200 --> 0:59:54.680 you're watching this team week in week out, and you're like, 0:59:55.600 --> 0:59:57.960 they're playing really well and they're finding a way to 0:59:57.960 --> 0:59:59.760 win all these games. But they really don't look like 0:59:59.760 --> 1:00:02.560 a super Bowl team to me, which is okay, Like 1:00:02.600 --> 1:00:04.480 I don't think anybody thought in August this was a 1:00:04.480 --> 1:00:06.880 super Bowl team. So it's not like, oh man, that's 1:00:06.880 --> 1:00:10.120 a disaster. They're not a super Bowl team. So you 1:00:10.200 --> 1:00:12.840 look at it that way and you say, oh, Okay, 1:00:13.040 --> 1:00:14.720 it's not the end of the world. But then you 1:00:14.760 --> 1:00:17.640 look at it from the other perspective, you're like, well, 1:00:17.640 --> 1:00:20.240 why not them? Like it's a year that clearly doesn't 1:00:20.280 --> 1:00:23.880 have that team that has that super Bowl look, Because 1:00:23.880 --> 1:00:26.360 I would agree with some of the naysayers on Kansas City, 1:00:26.840 --> 1:00:29.960 they have not looked super Bowl caliber. We all know 1:00:30.240 --> 1:00:33.439 they're capable of a higher level, and that's in the back. 1:00:33.760 --> 1:00:36.280 I think that's in the back of all of our minds. 1:00:36.400 --> 1:00:40.520 But if you could just find a way to continue 1:00:40.560 --> 1:00:43.680 winning and get that first round by you say to yourself, 1:00:44.040 --> 1:00:46.520 why not I only have to win one game to 1:00:46.560 --> 1:00:49.400 get the AAC Championship. I'm at home for two wins 1:00:49.800 --> 1:00:51.320 and I can get to the super Bowl. And I 1:00:51.400 --> 1:00:54.200 think that's what's disappointing, because you had a chance to 1:00:54.600 --> 1:00:57.440 get there. Now, this is not a fluke loss tonight. 1:00:57.480 --> 1:00:59.080 This was a team that they played that was pretty 1:00:59.080 --> 1:01:02.320 good on the other side. By the way, don't don't 1:01:02.400 --> 1:01:04.640 let yourself think that the Colts did everything. The Colts 1:01:04.640 --> 1:01:07.680 couldn't throw the ball. The Colts made plenty of mistakes 1:01:07.680 --> 1:01:10.040 in this game. The Patriots just made a lot more. 1:01:10.600 --> 1:01:15.040 I think if Carson Wentz was anywhere near as good 1:01:15.040 --> 1:01:18.040 in this game as he's been for the other games, 1:01:18.120 --> 1:01:20.520 the other thirteen games, the Patriots could have had the 1:01:20.560 --> 1:01:22.800 mic blowout that he's talking about it. He could not 1:01:22.960 --> 1:01:24.760 throw the ball where he wanted to throw it tonight, 1:01:25.720 --> 1:01:27.840 and that's and that allowed the Patriots to stay in 1:01:27.840 --> 1:01:31.560 the game. Patt and agawam up next down the Patriots 1:01:31.640 --> 1:01:36.600 postgame show, presented by Cyber Reason. What's going on, Patty? 1:01:36.920 --> 1:01:41.960 He what's going on? Is are you feeling you? Okay? Yeah? 1:01:42.000 --> 1:01:48.880 I mean crap. Um. I'll tell you what um to me. 1:01:49.240 --> 1:01:51.240 I'll tell you when the game, when the game was lost, 1:01:51.360 --> 1:01:54.640 and I'll get to something else too. But to meet, 1:01:54.680 --> 1:01:58.360 the game was lost when they were driving down fourteen 1:01:58.360 --> 1:02:01.760 to nothing and Mac throws the pick because who knows 1:02:01.760 --> 1:02:03.680 how the game plays out after that, But if it 1:02:03.760 --> 1:02:06.080 plays out the way it did, you have a chance 1:02:06.120 --> 1:02:08.800 to win the game. You know, instead of being a 1:02:08.880 --> 1:02:13.080 score behind. It was seventeen to nothing when that happened. 1:02:13.120 --> 1:02:14.800 But I agree with you. I thought that was an 1:02:14.920 --> 1:02:17.520 enormous play late and a half to not get points 1:02:17.520 --> 1:02:20.520 on that drive. You know, no one you're getting the 1:02:20.520 --> 1:02:22.640 ball to start the second half, if you score there 1:02:23.160 --> 1:02:27.320 seventeen seven, even if it's seventeen three, but seventeen seven, 1:02:27.440 --> 1:02:30.680 you got the ball coming out second half changes the complexion. 1:02:30.720 --> 1:02:32.800 That was a big, big red zone pick. I agree 1:02:32.800 --> 1:02:36.720 with you, Patty. And next week is I'm regardless of 1:02:36.720 --> 1:02:39.800 what the final score is, if they come out the 1:02:39.800 --> 1:02:42.560 way they came out this week, well they're gonna get beat. 1:02:42.800 --> 1:02:47.080 Oh bad oh. That's I think that goes without saying. 1:02:47.200 --> 1:02:51.000 I mean, Josh Allen, you saw what he can do 1:02:51.120 --> 1:02:53.520 in crunch time. If he smells blood in the water 1:02:53.640 --> 1:02:57.480 early and there is you know, sloppy football going on 1:02:57.480 --> 1:02:59.560 on the opposite side of the ball there, he's going 1:02:59.640 --> 1:03:02.920 to take advantage of that a lot. I think they 1:03:02.960 --> 1:03:05.040 have more ways to take advantage of that than the 1:03:05.040 --> 1:03:07.360 Colts did tonight. The Colts had one way really to 1:03:07.400 --> 1:03:10.440 take advantage of it, and that's all they needed. Yeah, 1:03:10.480 --> 1:03:12.640 I mean, I mean, I'm assuming it's going to be 1:03:12.640 --> 1:03:14.720 a different weather game, but it's gonna be You're actually 1:03:14.720 --> 1:03:17.320 going to see maybe a team that can throw and 1:03:17.360 --> 1:03:19.480 in the conditions, and you know what does that bring? 1:03:19.480 --> 1:03:21.320 I mean, is this a whole other can of worms 1:03:21.320 --> 1:03:23.840 that we're about to open against. Buffalo, or is this 1:03:23.960 --> 1:03:26.840 under control and this will help them get in order. 1:03:26.840 --> 1:03:28.320 But you know, it's not like they can walk into 1:03:28.320 --> 1:03:30.360 the Buffalo game. We really got to stop the run again. 1:03:30.400 --> 1:03:32.280 It's it's not really what the game plan is going 1:03:32.360 --> 1:03:36.600 to call for. Stefan and Germany says u surprised to 1:03:36.600 --> 1:03:38.760 see a Belichick coach team coming out of a bye 1:03:38.800 --> 1:03:42.920 week play terribly sloppy football for three quarters. Well, you 1:03:43.040 --> 1:03:44.800 heard him say they had a bad week of practice. 1:03:45.000 --> 1:03:48.200 Can I just I have a very minor nitpick that. 1:03:48.640 --> 1:03:51.480 It's it's sort of annoying me how much credit the 1:03:51.480 --> 1:03:53.320 Patriots are getting for how well they played in the 1:03:53.360 --> 1:03:57.640 fourth quarter. They didn't like their defense wasn't good in 1:03:57.680 --> 1:03:59.760 the fourth Their defense was excellent in the third quarter, 1:04:00.240 --> 1:04:03.640 but it wasn't great in the fourth quarter. And they 1:04:03.680 --> 1:04:07.120 had an enormous penalty, a sloppy, big penalty in the 1:04:07.120 --> 1:04:10.320 fourth quarter that went from third and goal from the 1:04:10.360 --> 1:04:13.000 two to third and goal from the seven, which ultimately, 1:04:13.000 --> 1:04:15.760 when that play fails forces you to not forces you, 1:04:15.840 --> 1:04:18.560 but led to you kicking a field goal instead of 1:04:18.840 --> 1:04:22.120 trying to get within one score with a touchdown. Like 1:04:22.440 --> 1:04:24.760 those plays happened in the fourth quarter, those are the 1:04:24.800 --> 1:04:27.200 same plays that happened in the first three quarters. I agree. 1:04:27.320 --> 1:04:29.600 I agree they did not play well in the fourth quarter. 1:04:29.960 --> 1:04:32.920 They gamely continued to fight till the end. Yes, that 1:04:33.080 --> 1:04:36.360 I will say one. And they made a couple of plays, Paul, 1:04:36.520 --> 1:04:38.800 And it's like we were talking about earlier. Deuce brought 1:04:38.880 --> 1:04:41.040 up how the offense looked like it was just such 1:04:41.080 --> 1:04:44.200 a struggle to get anything going. They had a couple 1:04:44.280 --> 1:04:47.320 of plays that didn't look like it was such a 1:04:47.400 --> 1:04:50.560 chore to pick up yards in the fourth quarter. And 1:04:50.560 --> 1:04:52.960 that's I mean, when you're watching it and you've got 1:04:53.000 --> 1:04:55.680 a certain feeling about the way a team is moving 1:04:55.720 --> 1:04:58.160 the ball. They moved the ball a couple of times. 1:04:58.360 --> 1:05:03.120 It wasn't effortless, but it wasn't It wasn't the I 1:05:03.400 --> 1:05:06.760 the grind that it was for the other parts earlier 1:05:06.800 --> 1:05:08.640 in the game. And I think that's why people the 1:05:08.800 --> 1:05:12.520 forty three yard bomb to Harry everything else is exactly 1:05:12.600 --> 1:05:14.720 what the Colts wanted you to do. They wanted you 1:05:14.760 --> 1:05:17.200 to go fifteen five, you know, ten fifteen yards at 1:05:17.200 --> 1:05:20.640 the time run clock. We're gonna We're gonna have Taylor 1:05:20.680 --> 1:05:22.640 run clock on our side. And you don't have enough 1:05:22.680 --> 1:05:25.200 time to catch us. That's what the Colts wanted. The 1:05:25.280 --> 1:05:27.640 one play they made was the deep ball to Harry 1:05:28.120 --> 1:05:30.000 and that allowed them to get it. I think it 1:05:30.040 --> 1:05:35.240 was forty three yards right. Obviously the Colts didn't want 1:05:35.320 --> 1:05:38.000 this this play to happen, and and give you know, 1:05:38.080 --> 1:05:42.680 give Harry in Mac credit for making a play there 1:05:42.680 --> 1:05:45.480 when they had to. But like I said, they never 1:05:45.520 --> 1:05:48.200 got the ball down to score. They never put any 1:05:48.240 --> 1:05:51.960 pressure on the Colts. Yeah, they scored seventeen points in 1:05:52.000 --> 1:05:55.200 the fourth quarter. That's a little deceiving because the first 1:05:55.240 --> 1:05:57.400 seven happened on the very first play of the quarter. 1:05:57.960 --> 1:06:01.480 That drive started in the third quarter. Um just not 1:06:01.600 --> 1:06:07.480 good all around, um, Caesar says before the backbreaking touchdown run. 1:06:07.920 --> 1:06:10.160 Jonathan Taylor had twenty eight carries for one hundred and 1:06:10.160 --> 1:06:14.160 one yards, averaging three point six per carry. You dominated 1:06:14.160 --> 1:06:17.000 the game though, on paper, and he says, on paper 1:06:17.080 --> 1:06:20.800 that looks good for the pads D. However, watching the game, 1:06:20.840 --> 1:06:22.960 I felt like he was running all over the pads D. 1:06:23.240 --> 1:06:25.919 It was what are your thoughts, because again you're talking 1:06:25.920 --> 1:06:28.640 about averages. It's not like he got three point six 1:06:28.720 --> 1:06:31.040 every time. Yeah, they stuffed him a couple of times, 1:06:31.080 --> 1:06:33.720 but he had had a couple of tackles for losses, 1:06:33.920 --> 1:06:35.520 like he had like one hundred and ten yards and 1:06:35.560 --> 1:06:38.040 then went back to one hundred and thirty. Right. It 1:06:38.120 --> 1:06:40.480 was it was the plays where he would hit the line, 1:06:40.640 --> 1:06:42.959 pick up his two or three, and then fall down 1:06:43.080 --> 1:06:46.160 for four more yards. It was those plays. Wou'd you 1:06:46.200 --> 1:06:49.480 think you were mondre Stevenson in Buffalo. I mean he 1:06:49.560 --> 1:06:52.040 was good. I think he had some some very positive 1:06:52.400 --> 1:06:54.200 runs at the end. There were some others that but 1:06:54.240 --> 1:06:55.680 I mean they ran it a ton, so I think 1:06:55.680 --> 1:06:59.960 it would like sun, yeah it's gonna or something like that. 1:07:00.200 --> 1:07:03.400 He was good, He was excellent. He controlled He controlled 1:07:03.480 --> 1:07:05.760 the third quarter when they were running the ball into 1:07:05.760 --> 1:07:10.360 the wind that I mean the average three yards to carry. Yeah, 1:07:10.480 --> 1:07:12.840 but he was controlling the game. And that's what Jonathan 1:07:12.840 --> 1:07:15.920 Taylor did tonight. Zach and Freiberg once to know if 1:07:15.920 --> 1:07:19.120 there's going to be any other supplemental discipline for Dugger 1:07:19.200 --> 1:07:22.520 after his ejection from the game. I thought that whole 1:07:22.520 --> 1:07:26.040 play was was odd. I thought, I frankly, I wonder 1:07:26.080 --> 1:07:28.080 if Kyle van Noy will have anything coming to him, 1:07:28.120 --> 1:07:30.240 because I thought he started the whole thing looked like 1:07:30.320 --> 1:07:33.160 he had a role in that that was not picked 1:07:33.200 --> 1:07:35.320 up by the officials. And I thought this was odd 1:07:35.360 --> 1:07:38.880 to to to throw guys out of the game for this. Um. 1:07:38.960 --> 1:07:42.080 I didn't think either one of them deserved to be ejected. UM. 1:07:42.480 --> 1:07:44.440 And I really thought the Patriots were fortunate to get 1:07:44.480 --> 1:07:49.120 offsetting penalties here. Um. But you know whatever I mean, 1:07:49.240 --> 1:07:51.240 for for all that we uh, you know, get on 1:07:51.280 --> 1:07:53.480 the officials and rightly so a lot of the time 1:07:53.920 --> 1:07:56.280 in a situation like this, and you know, it goes 1:07:56.280 --> 1:07:58.880 to New York and they're looking at it. You know, 1:07:58.880 --> 1:08:01.040 they're they're trying to keep the game moving a little bit. 1:08:01.040 --> 1:08:02.880 They don't want to stop it for an undue amount 1:08:02.880 --> 1:08:05.439 of time and dissect something that is not a football play. 1:08:05.480 --> 1:08:09.200 That's something that look at that like by van Noy, 1:08:09.280 --> 1:08:13.160 that just completely went untaught. Like no one even mentioned it, 1:08:13.320 --> 1:08:17.280 yeah except for everybody on Twitter. But um, like he 1:08:17.600 --> 1:08:20.760 pushed him right into like Dougger, I don't think was 1:08:20.800 --> 1:08:24.479 trying to do that with his helmet, like because Vannoy 1:08:24.560 --> 1:08:27.400 pushed him into him, his head went down. And that's 1:08:27.439 --> 1:08:29.719 when like, like right here is just like a regular 1:08:29.760 --> 1:08:33.519 okay personal files each side. Now, like van Noy just 1:08:33.560 --> 1:08:36.760 buries him and then um Dugger ends up ripping his 1:08:36.760 --> 1:08:40.400 helmet off. I was very surprised that Pittman got the 1:08:40.439 --> 1:08:43.880 same penalty that Dugger did, as you know, I thought 1:08:43.880 --> 1:08:46.599 there was too Yeah, I thought there was more. I mean, 1:08:47.720 --> 1:08:50.360 listen that the Colts got the calls tonight, Like I'm 1:08:50.400 --> 1:08:53.560 not suggesting that they got not saying that there was 1:08:53.600 --> 1:08:55.840 good battle. Look at that, like that's a great shot 1:08:55.840 --> 1:08:58.920 of it right there, Like the push by Van Noy 1:08:59.000 --> 1:09:02.200 starts this whole look at that like that's unbelievable. Left 1:09:02.520 --> 1:09:05.640 him in with the left and that's like right in 1:09:05.720 --> 1:09:09.400 the back, like like at least been like Dugger is 1:09:09.400 --> 1:09:11.360 is squared up with the guy they like Pittman and 1:09:11.439 --> 1:09:14.559 dun They know what they're doing. You see hit Pittman's head, Yes, 1:09:15.120 --> 1:09:16.880 go back from the whip last I should have getting 1:09:16.880 --> 1:09:20.000 pushed by Van back and to the left. CJ in 1:09:20.080 --> 1:09:25.120 Baltimore Patriots postgame presented by Cyber Reason. Hello CJ, Hey, 1:09:25.520 --> 1:09:28.000 how are you all doing? And this was a kind 1:09:28.040 --> 1:09:31.680 of a tough loss for me, Like I like, just 1:09:31.760 --> 1:09:34.920 a I do thank you for having the show because 1:09:34.920 --> 1:09:39.920 it allows me to like process everything that's too um 1:09:40.040 --> 1:09:42.719 one thing I wanted just a few things. The one's 1:09:42.760 --> 1:09:46.760 a question about future shows. Um, is there anything that 1:09:47.120 --> 1:09:50.240 they can do to just better the running game? Because 1:09:51.640 --> 1:09:55.639 that was just depressing. Yeah, I was a little surprised 1:09:55.720 --> 1:09:58.040 that they didn't they didn't have a little bit more success. 1:09:58.080 --> 1:10:00.720 I mean, overall things were just disjointed. But I mean, 1:10:00.760 --> 1:10:02.760 I do think is as much as like individually. I 1:10:02.800 --> 1:10:05.000 don't know if if you know, Damian Harris is like 1:10:05.120 --> 1:10:07.760 the answer, but I think together they're a good group 1:10:07.760 --> 1:10:09.400 and it gives you a chance to try different things. 1:10:09.439 --> 1:10:12.120 They didn't really have a, you know, as someone else 1:10:12.160 --> 1:10:14.160 to go to. It was kind of Stevenson or bust, 1:10:14.200 --> 1:10:16.120 and I think once they got away from it, they 1:10:16.160 --> 1:10:17.800 got down quick and then it was all right, it's 1:10:17.800 --> 1:10:20.040 a different game now. It's not really a Stevenson game. 1:10:20.080 --> 1:10:22.400 It's a Bolden game. It's a throwing game. So I 1:10:22.439 --> 1:10:24.400 think the way the game unfolded had had part to 1:10:24.439 --> 1:10:25.960 do it, and that's the big part of it. All 1:10:26.000 --> 1:10:28.120 week I was talking about if the Patriots were to 1:10:28.160 --> 1:10:29.960 shut down Jonathan Taylor in this game, it will be 1:10:29.920 --> 1:10:31.720 because the Patriots get a big lead and they won't 1:10:31.720 --> 1:10:35.360 be able to run Jonathan Taylor twenty plus times. Well 1:10:35.360 --> 1:10:38.000 that's I mean, let's listen. Give the Colts credit. They 1:10:38.000 --> 1:10:40.880 shut down Stevenson early. But how many times have we 1:10:40.960 --> 1:10:44.200 seen that the Patriots maybe don't jump out of the gates, 1:10:44.240 --> 1:10:46.720 you know, ripping off big runs, but you know, they 1:10:47.120 --> 1:10:49.880 stick with it and they eventually start grinding away and 1:10:50.240 --> 1:10:52.320 by the third and fourth quarter, those you know, those 1:10:52.320 --> 1:10:55.040 two yard runs become seven yard runs. Well, they couldn't 1:10:55.080 --> 1:10:57.519 do that tonight because they would down three scores and 1:10:57.640 --> 1:11:00.920 you can't just keep running Stevenson, you know, Donald, you know, 1:11:01.000 --> 1:11:05.559 down all of that. Yeah at the time, So I 1:11:05.600 --> 1:11:07.439 think that was a big part of it. But give 1:11:07.560 --> 1:11:10.479 give Indianapolis credit. That's what their game plan was, same 1:11:10.520 --> 1:11:14.120 game plan as everybody else. They succeeded. Yeah, And I 1:11:14.160 --> 1:11:16.440 do think I gotta say I give I give Indianapolis 1:11:16.439 --> 1:11:18.880 credit because you know, I always give the Patriots credit 1:11:18.920 --> 1:11:21.639 when they're able to, you know, pull out these wins 1:11:21.720 --> 1:11:25.760 and by playing together and not beating themselves and making 1:11:25.800 --> 1:11:27.680 the little plays here and there, And that's exactly what 1:11:27.760 --> 1:11:30.160 the Colts did. Good good highlight clips right here too. 1:11:31.280 --> 1:11:32.960 That the peeps in the truck are you I'm gonna 1:11:33.000 --> 1:11:35.280 call it the truck even though it's just the other room. 1:11:35.680 --> 1:11:39.080 And when they kept trying to run wide, I thought 1:11:39.080 --> 1:11:41.599 that that was sort of an error because I think 1:11:41.680 --> 1:11:44.200 that the strength of the Colts defense is the speed, 1:11:44.640 --> 1:11:46.960 not necessarily the power. I thought they funneled things to 1:11:47.000 --> 1:11:49.800 the outside really well. Tonight. I thought they did a 1:11:49.840 --> 1:11:54.800 good job in pursuit and uh, yeah, I've listened. I'll 1:11:54.840 --> 1:11:57.400 say it again, giving Indiapolis credit. They said they needed 1:11:57.439 --> 1:11:58.880 to to shut down the run and put the game 1:11:58.880 --> 1:12:02.840 in the rookie quarterbacks, and mission accomplished. There's another wide run, 1:12:02.920 --> 1:12:07.160 right sure, House you block a punt for that sound? No, No, 1:12:07.280 --> 1:12:10.240 that was huge. I'm talking about the Colts defense, not 1:12:10.280 --> 1:12:12.519 the Colts office. Yeah, it wasn't just like we can't run, 1:12:12.560 --> 1:12:18.599 we can't run. Um see, Joan Bentley just tweeted more 1:12:18.600 --> 1:12:20.680 glory to the man above. You know, I know that 1:12:20.720 --> 1:12:23.559 we make a lot of those things and sometimes you could, 1:12:23.600 --> 1:12:27.760 like after the Buffalo game, I think Adrian Phillips I 1:12:27.800 --> 1:12:30.280 always do that, and he did. He did it tonight. 1:12:30.840 --> 1:12:33.800 I'm sorry tonight. Yeah, so that's uh, you don't want 1:12:33.800 --> 1:12:37.000 to read too much in it. I don't know. Um, 1:12:37.280 --> 1:12:40.720 go to Charlotte, North Carolina, talk with Craig on the 1:12:40.760 --> 1:12:44.479 post game Show. Hi Craig, Hey, how's it going you guys? 1:12:45.080 --> 1:12:51.400 Oh yeah, all right? Great. Hey, Um, I've been listening 1:12:51.560 --> 1:12:54.680 to your predictions all year. Don't beat yourself up. You 1:12:54.800 --> 1:13:02.240 might forgetting like it. I mean, it's like it's it's lucky, 1:13:02.360 --> 1:13:05.040 but it's kind of funny. Um, it was a tough, 1:13:05.240 --> 1:13:12.320 tough game. Um, I had a kind of a question 1:13:12.360 --> 1:13:24.439 for you. Um, the um pop had a lot of opportunities. UM, 1:13:24.479 --> 1:13:29.080 I'm so sorry, I'm breaking up. That's sorry, Craig, call back, 1:13:29.360 --> 1:13:33.000 get a better line, and um, yeah, well we'll be here. 1:13:33.120 --> 1:13:35.240 We're not going anywhere, all right, We'll go to George 1:13:35.240 --> 1:13:37.720 and Illinois. George, go ahead. Thanks for joining us on 1:13:37.720 --> 1:13:41.880 the post game Show presented by Cyber Reason. What's up, George? Hey, 1:13:41.920 --> 1:13:44.280 I know you guys talked about the penalties and the 1:13:44.360 --> 1:13:46.960 times where we've shot ourselves in the flood for this game. 1:13:47.000 --> 1:13:50.560 But how concerned do you guys that those self inflicted 1:13:51.240 --> 1:13:55.479 wounds will will also kill us next week against Buffalo? 1:13:56.040 --> 1:13:59.080 I mean that's I hope not. I mean, I mean, look, 1:13:59.080 --> 1:14:01.799 you've been good lately. Yeah, it'll it'll be it'll absolutely 1:14:01.880 --> 1:14:04.559 kill you. It'll kill you against any team or most 1:14:04.600 --> 1:14:07.320 any teams. But those kinds of penalties, the false starts, 1:14:07.360 --> 1:14:09.880 the pre snap stuff that can't happen. That that's something 1:14:09.920 --> 1:14:12.240 to where you know, when when it comes down to coaching, 1:14:12.280 --> 1:14:14.439 it's something that we just take for granted and have 1:14:14.520 --> 1:14:17.400 taken for granted so often and for so many years 1:14:17.439 --> 1:14:20.760 in New England that it's uh, it's something that you yeah, 1:14:20.760 --> 1:14:23.479 you don't spend any time worrying about, like ball security 1:14:23.560 --> 1:14:26.880 things like that. Okay, that's that is either you know, 1:14:26.880 --> 1:14:29.400 a personnel decisions, who's going to get the ball, who 1:14:29.680 --> 1:14:32.599 has more tendency to fumble things like that. But you know, 1:14:32.640 --> 1:14:35.760 the penalties, the self inflicted stuff, that's something you just 1:14:36.040 --> 1:14:38.439 you jump offside and a field goal, right, you have 1:14:38.479 --> 1:14:40.639 a false start on third and goal from the two. 1:14:41.560 --> 1:14:43.479 It reminds me of to kill Harry being back there. 1:14:43.479 --> 1:14:44.920 It's like, do you really have to coach a guy 1:14:45.000 --> 1:14:47.720 not to chase after you know, a punt. It's like, 1:14:47.760 --> 1:14:49.960 do you really have to coach up a team whatever 1:14:50.000 --> 1:14:52.120 you do, don't jump offside here? And we had to 1:14:52.120 --> 1:14:56.160 tell Kastanza that it wasn't okay, you know, you know, 1:14:56.680 --> 1:14:59.519 is that wrong? Like I have to I have to 1:14:59.560 --> 1:15:02.519 have like coaching points like Jono Smith. It's it's like 1:15:02.840 --> 1:15:05.360 second and one from the eight. I'm gonna you know not. 1:15:05.760 --> 1:15:08.360 You probably don't want to have a false start here. Yeah, 1:15:08.360 --> 1:15:11.240 that's I mean stuff like that. George, Yes, it'll be. 1:15:11.320 --> 1:15:14.599 It will be catastrophic against Buffalo next week. Do I 1:15:14.640 --> 1:15:16.519 think they have to spend a lot of time working 1:15:16.560 --> 1:15:19.639 on it this week? Boy? I hope not. I hope 1:15:19.680 --> 1:15:21.639 it's something that just kind of goes without saying. They 1:15:21.680 --> 1:15:24.559 look at the film, they address it once and say, guys, 1:15:24.960 --> 1:15:27.360 do I even have to say it? Thank you? Let's 1:15:27.400 --> 1:15:30.639 move on. You're just you're not You're not talented enough 1:15:30.800 --> 1:15:33.959 to overcome that many mistakes, Like you have to play 1:15:34.600 --> 1:15:37.320 your game, and you know, that's this is what people 1:15:37.360 --> 1:15:41.080 have been talking about with Kansas City. Like Kansas City 1:15:41.840 --> 1:15:45.120 has been doing this stuff this whole time, and they 1:15:45.240 --> 1:15:48.400 keep winning. And that's why people think there's another gear 1:15:49.080 --> 1:15:51.360 that the Chiefs might have, Like one of these weeks, 1:15:51.360 --> 1:15:53.760 they're not going to turn it over twice. They're not 1:15:53.800 --> 1:15:57.519 going to commit for holding penalties to short circuit drives, 1:15:57.760 --> 1:16:00.439 you know, and then what I mean, they they generally 1:16:00.479 --> 1:16:02.200 find a way to score it you know, twenty five 1:16:02.280 --> 1:16:04.920 or thirty points every game. What's going to happen? When 1:16:04.920 --> 1:16:08.000 they stopped shooting themselves in the foot, which they even 1:16:08.040 --> 1:16:10.840 against the Chargers, they did it again with two more turnovers. 1:16:11.920 --> 1:16:15.160 Email here from Scott was Gunner really the best option 1:16:15.200 --> 1:16:16.800 to throw the ball too on that fourth down to 1:16:16.880 --> 1:16:18.800 end the game? I get that Henry was out, and 1:16:18.840 --> 1:16:24.120 I believe Aglore was too, But Gunnar Olschevski over right, 1:16:24.280 --> 1:16:29.760 not to Hunter or Myers. Gunner. Yeah, it's it's over 1:16:29.800 --> 1:16:33.680 when it's over, though, I mean it was over, okay. 1:16:34.920 --> 1:16:37.960 And on that note, we will end the post game show, 1:16:38.040 --> 1:16:41.040 just kidding, just taking a quick break, and we'll come back. 1:16:41.080 --> 1:16:43.880 We have more calls, we have more emails to get to. 1:16:44.240 --> 1:16:49.240 We certainly wouldn't end things without thanking. 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Join us eight five five, pass 1:19:04.479 --> 1:19:08.160 five hundred or email web radio at Patriots dot com. 1:19:08.160 --> 1:19:12.200 Happy to entertain both and continue right now thanks to Bows, 1:19:12.479 --> 1:19:15.000 Proud to be the official sound and official headphones of 1:19:15.080 --> 1:19:18.240 the New England Patriots and the NFL. Bows Quiet Comfort 1:19:18.240 --> 1:19:22.320 a earbuds rule to Quiet. Learn more at bows dot com. 1:19:22.640 --> 1:19:25.760 Let's talk to Robin in Florida, Robin on the Patriots 1:19:25.800 --> 1:19:30.640 postgame Show presented by cyber Reason. Hi, Robin, Any guys, 1:19:30.800 --> 1:19:35.840 you know my opinion, woll thing. Just let macimack. I mean, 1:19:36.400 --> 1:19:39.760 he won a national championship. What have you done Bill 1:19:39.800 --> 1:19:43.800 in the last couple of years? Nothing? Let Maximac? Right? 1:19:43.920 --> 1:19:48.599 How so this? Let macbimack? Well? How so? What did 1:19:48.600 --> 1:19:51.320 you want to do? What did you want? Why the baby? 1:19:51.520 --> 1:19:55.640 Why the baby? What was the baby? What was the 1:19:55.680 --> 1:19:59.639 baby championship? Okay, I heard, I know that Mac won 1:19:59.640 --> 1:20:02.320 the national championship. Bill has won six Super Bowls, so 1:20:02.479 --> 1:20:04.960 we don't have to compare resumes because they don't compare 1:20:05.360 --> 1:20:11.479 what what did he do to not let MacB mac? Okay, 1:20:11.600 --> 1:20:14.240 can you give us an example tonight of the babying 1:20:15.240 --> 1:20:19.240 takes off? Okay, what is the what? What diaper is on? 1:20:19.880 --> 1:20:22.479 We lose? We lose? What can you give me an 1:20:22.479 --> 1:20:26.519 example tonight? Just one example of the diaper being on? 1:20:26.640 --> 1:20:33.080 Because the quarterback cost you the game early he was off. Yeah, okay, 1:20:33.200 --> 1:20:37.800 all right, here we go. Okay, thank you, Robin mac cook. 1:20:39.960 --> 1:20:42.639 Let's quarterback was awful at the start of this gaming. 1:20:42.680 --> 1:20:45.200 He was as big a reason as any as to 1:20:45.240 --> 1:20:47.559 why you were behind. See how you play with you're 1:20:47.680 --> 1:20:50.320 being forced to wear a diaper? Here? He won a 1:20:50.520 --> 1:20:53.200 national championship, Paul, they should let Mac be Mac. We're 1:20:53.200 --> 1:20:56.439 comparing resumes between Mac Jones and Bill Belichick. How many 1:20:56.520 --> 1:20:59.479 national championships has Bill Belichick won in the last like 1:20:59.680 --> 1:21:03.960 because billion he doesn't want to. If he wanted to, 1:21:04.080 --> 1:21:11.280 he could. Yeah, yess pro. They gotta take the handcuffs off. 1:21:11.400 --> 1:21:13.599 Let him go out there and be the gun slinger. 1:21:13.760 --> 1:21:16.479 See if he see even get two more receivers killed 1:21:16.560 --> 1:21:19.240 in the next game. That was a nice interception, though. 1:21:19.400 --> 1:21:21.400 You gotta give the close guy credit me. Oh my god, 1:21:21.400 --> 1:21:24.280 what a grab now, I mean he he jumps the route, 1:21:24.280 --> 1:21:26.800 but you saw it unfolding. I saw it unfolding. His 1:21:26.840 --> 1:21:30.080 ass happening. He made a great catch, but that there's 1:21:30.120 --> 1:21:32.760 no way that ball was being complete. Six passes and 1:21:32.880 --> 1:21:43.200 nineteen runs. Diapers, Evan and Denver? What's going on? Evan? Hey? Fellas, Hey, hey? 1:21:43.360 --> 1:21:48.240 So all three phases of the game looked completely in 1:21:48.320 --> 1:21:53.400 that tonight. Offense, defense, special teams, they all looked completely horrible. 1:21:54.000 --> 1:21:57.120 And I just want to know how you come on. 1:21:57.320 --> 1:21:59.040 I know the Cults were in the same boat, but 1:21:59.160 --> 1:22:02.080 how do you come off? By week it looks so 1:22:02.320 --> 1:22:06.639 inept in all three phases against the Colts. Yeah, it's 1:22:06.640 --> 1:22:08.800 just flat too. I mean, it's just the I mean, 1:22:08.840 --> 1:22:10.960 they talked a lot about the practice week, and like 1:22:10.960 --> 1:22:13.800 I get annoyed with that, only because they always tell 1:22:13.880 --> 1:22:16.200 us actively. They always tell us when they win, you know, 1:22:16.240 --> 1:22:17.960 what a great week of practice was, and when it loose, 1:22:18.040 --> 1:22:19.920 when they lose, after, you know, we find out how 1:22:19.920 --> 1:22:21.960 bad it was. That it's just an annoying thing, but 1:22:22.000 --> 1:22:25.200 it's probably accurate, Like they probably didn't practice as well 1:22:25.240 --> 1:22:27.320 as they have been. I don't know why that is, 1:22:28.280 --> 1:22:32.200 but you mean it's it's it's hard to figure these 1:22:32.240 --> 1:22:35.479 things out, you know. I mean, it's a game played 1:22:35.520 --> 1:22:39.120 by humans. They played much more, uh like they did 1:22:39.120 --> 1:22:41.200 in the first six weeks than they have the last seven. 1:22:41.520 --> 1:22:45.280 They played tonight. All right, Evan, thanks for the call. 1:22:45.360 --> 1:22:47.280 I appreciate it. It's a tough one because he's right. 1:22:47.280 --> 1:22:50.439 Evan's right. They were not good on any of the phases, 1:22:50.760 --> 1:22:53.439 like even you know you're looking at defensively, you know, 1:22:53.520 --> 1:22:56.320 the the numbers defensively are going to be solid. Two 1:22:56.360 --> 1:23:01.080 hundred and seventy five yards really only twenty points the point, 1:23:01.160 --> 1:23:03.200 you know, and and your your apol I was thinking 1:23:03.240 --> 1:23:06.400 about that as the game is unfolding before that last touchdown. 1:23:06.680 --> 1:23:08.880 Really it's really only seventeen points because they gave him 1:23:08.880 --> 1:23:11.000 a field goal without even giving up a first down, right, 1:23:11.240 --> 1:23:13.799 you know, and you know the field position and all that. Okay, 1:23:13.880 --> 1:23:16.360 all right, not a not a ton on the defense. 1:23:16.880 --> 1:23:20.519 You still allow the one guy on the Colts offense 1:23:20.560 --> 1:23:22.880 to beat you, and he's that he's the only guy, 1:23:24.120 --> 1:23:26.679 and he did and two for ten on third downs. 1:23:26.720 --> 1:23:28.840 He's a good guy, which is good numbers. But then 1:23:28.880 --> 1:23:30.559 you add in the three for three on fourth down. 1:23:30.600 --> 1:23:32.240 It's like five for ten on third down. Yeah, the 1:23:32.240 --> 1:23:34.040 fourth down, but I mean how the fourth downwards all 1:23:34.080 --> 1:23:37.360 like what yard less? They were all inches? But that's 1:23:37.360 --> 1:23:40.000 my point, like, so, yeah, you stopped him inches short 1:23:40.040 --> 1:23:42.880 of the first down on those third downs, you know, 1:23:42.960 --> 1:23:45.840 close enough that I believe, well at least two of them, 1:23:45.880 --> 1:23:47.880 I think all three of them were from the cold 1:23:47.920 --> 1:23:49.840 side of the field. Can we can we mention to 1:23:50.439 --> 1:23:53.519 the uh the passes up the scene continue to be 1:23:53.960 --> 1:23:56.439 from trouble area for for mac Jones, that's that's just 1:23:56.840 --> 1:23:58.960 we talked about it this week and it started in 1:23:58.960 --> 1:24:01.920 training camp. It was just balls in danger throwing up 1:24:01.960 --> 1:24:05.559 the scene the couple tonight. I just you know, I 1:24:05.560 --> 1:24:07.479 haven't really I can't really remember the last time I 1:24:07.479 --> 1:24:10.920 saw him actually hit a scene pass. You know. It's 1:24:11.000 --> 1:24:15.600 just they're always Harry, hold your breath, A bunch of 1:24:15.600 --> 1:24:17.280 guys are holding them and you know, and then the 1:24:17.320 --> 1:24:19.720 other the interception to the outside too, that was, I mean, 1:24:19.760 --> 1:24:21.599 not up the scene. But how about this fourth down 1:24:22.320 --> 1:24:25.320 that that was showing the quick sprint out? Was that 1:24:25.479 --> 1:24:28.200 play had no chance? No, I'm not sure what was 1:24:28.240 --> 1:24:32.439 going on there. Uh. Eldred in North Carolina. Our friend Eldred, 1:24:32.479 --> 1:24:37.000 what's going on? My my? Like I was killing so late, 1:24:37.120 --> 1:24:40.559 I got well, confound coach Jersey for a week now 1:24:44.240 --> 1:24:47.160 for a week. That sucks? Is it at least that 1:24:47.240 --> 1:24:49.680 Jonathan Taylor Jersey I have the worst part is that 1:24:53.600 --> 1:24:56.000 he doesn't even play there anymore. Isn't a Bronco yelled 1:24:56.000 --> 1:24:58.719 at me. Yeah, but he gotta. But he's a fake Manning. 1:24:59.080 --> 1:25:03.800 But but I'm with you, deuced. You know, I'm surprised 1:25:03.800 --> 1:25:06.240 that we got this far and play for the first 1:25:06.280 --> 1:25:08.600 three but then O the Super Bowl team to me 1:25:09.880 --> 1:25:15.120 because of the offense and rookie quarterback. And like they 1:25:15.160 --> 1:25:19.439 said in in the the preview of the ESPN, Michael 1:25:19.439 --> 1:25:22.120 Irvin and Steven Smith, they said, we're gonna see it. 1:25:22.200 --> 1:25:24.720 If they could put Mac team on the should win 1:25:24.800 --> 1:25:27.160 the game. He did in the first three quarter, but 1:25:27.160 --> 1:25:29.640 he showed him something in the fourth quarter. But like 1:25:29.720 --> 1:25:33.640 Stephen Smith said, when you get behind like this, and 1:25:33.720 --> 1:25:36.960 because they play that same game playing against us, we 1:25:37.040 --> 1:25:40.439 don't have that go to guy, that go to wide receiver. 1:25:40.520 --> 1:25:44.360 That's a not to fift eighty twenty, he said. Because 1:25:44.400 --> 1:25:48.240 our receivers they like puppy, they get golt uh when 1:25:48.320 --> 1:25:49.960 when you really need them, if you've got to come 1:25:50.000 --> 1:25:53.320 from buying, you never win a shootout. You never win 1:25:53.400 --> 1:25:56.479 win And I've been saying that for about a week now, 1:25:56.640 --> 1:25:59.719 more than weeks, you know. But then again, like I said, 1:25:59.760 --> 1:26:03.960 we uh, I hope we uh we beat Buffalo. But 1:26:04.200 --> 1:26:07.439 I'm just just thinking obviously a little lot more hip 1:26:07.520 --> 1:26:10.160 even though Matt he's a rookie with kid by Guy 1:26:10.240 --> 1:26:13.360 kicked in, but he's a promising rookie. And I hope 1:26:13.439 --> 1:26:16.080 nobody even like like I said, this, don't scar him 1:26:16.400 --> 1:26:18.680 the wrong way, but give him, give him convert is 1:26:18.720 --> 1:26:22.679 going forward. Yeah, and Eldred's it's a good point because 1:26:22.760 --> 1:26:24.680 you know, we talked about that earlier on in the 1:26:24.720 --> 1:26:27.240 season when the when the Pats faced the Jets and 1:26:27.360 --> 1:26:29.920 Zach Wilson throws four picks, and you know, we talked 1:26:29.920 --> 1:26:32.639 about how that can really scar a quarterback. I don't 1:26:32.640 --> 1:26:34.840 think Mac is going to be happy, and he didn't 1:26:34.880 --> 1:26:37.640 look happy on the sideline tonight. I don't know that 1:26:37.680 --> 1:26:40.080 this game is enough to scar him and damage him. 1:26:40.120 --> 1:26:42.360 Though it was a bad game. Oh, I think he's 1:26:42.400 --> 1:26:45.280 pretty tough, Yeah, yeah, I think I don't. He's shown 1:26:45.320 --> 1:26:49.040 a lot of resilience. I I don't worry about that. 1:26:49.280 --> 1:26:51.600 That is just started like the show, like that's a 1:26:51.640 --> 1:26:54.040 given to me, the Patriots toughness, and I put Mac 1:26:54.120 --> 1:26:57.360 Jones in that category. He showed me enough that he's 1:26:57.479 --> 1:26:59.720 he puts bad plays behind him and moves on. He 1:26:59.720 --> 1:27:01.840 didn't play well tonight. Now he didn't play even as 1:27:01.840 --> 1:27:04.559 well as his numbers would show that he played. Yeah, 1:27:04.600 --> 1:27:07.360 but I don't worry about him bouncing back because he's 1:27:07.680 --> 1:27:10.000 mentally scarred from his bad night to night. Yeah, And 1:27:10.280 --> 1:27:13.320 I'm with you on all that, Paul, And I just 1:27:13.400 --> 1:27:15.519 I think that this was a good night for Mac 1:27:15.720 --> 1:27:17.880 just to learn and to go into this kind of 1:27:18.000 --> 1:27:21.519 environment and see how things can go, you know, when 1:27:21.760 --> 1:27:24.439 they don't go perfect and you're all of a sudden 1:27:24.479 --> 1:27:27.080 fighting it and your mistakes compounding. I mean, I think 1:27:27.120 --> 1:27:28.519 it was a little bit of a taste for him 1:27:28.520 --> 1:27:31.040 seeing I mean, he has fought even when they've been 1:27:31.080 --> 1:27:33.800 down before. But I just think overall taking content ass 1:27:33.840 --> 1:27:36.519 beating in Indie, it's all right if you believe in 1:27:36.560 --> 1:27:39.479 Mac Jones as the quarterback for the foreseeable future. This 1:27:39.520 --> 1:27:41.200 is the kind of game that he's going to learn 1:27:41.240 --> 1:27:45.000 a lot from and take forward Cassie and Philly Wright saying, Hey, guys, 1:27:45.040 --> 1:27:47.800 been listening to a Peu and the post game show 1:27:47.800 --> 1:27:49.920 for a while. Tonight it was my first time listening 1:27:49.960 --> 1:27:53.960 to the pregame social looks like someone got there Christmas wish. 1:27:54.000 --> 1:27:56.680 I get that getting a loss before the playoffs might 1:27:56.760 --> 1:27:58.360 help them in the long run, but this game was 1:27:58.400 --> 1:28:01.840 painful to watch. I agree, that was painful. I guess 1:28:02.200 --> 1:28:05.760 better the Colts than the Bills. That said, love the show. 1:28:05.760 --> 1:28:07.679 I hope you have a great Christmas, Cassie in Philly. 1:28:07.920 --> 1:28:11.479 That's nice. Yeah, I really felt like the Oh seven 1:28:11.520 --> 1:28:13.559 team could have used the loss like that. That's a 1:28:13.600 --> 1:28:15.439 team that like, I think that would have been nice 1:28:15.439 --> 1:28:18.360 for them, like to lose one of those games. In retrospect, 1:28:18.439 --> 1:28:21.200 now you find out, like for some candid comments from 1:28:21.200 --> 1:28:24.920 players after the fact, of how much pressure they felt. Yeah, 1:28:24.960 --> 1:28:27.040 certainly they could have used to lost that. But right, 1:28:27.120 --> 1:28:30.000 we'll see, hopefully, hopefully this relocks them in on I 1:28:30.280 --> 1:28:32.760 just I wouldn't have been I did not expect them 1:28:32.800 --> 1:28:36.920 to be as unprepared, for lack of a better word, 1:28:36.960 --> 1:28:42.000 as they were. Tonight we have Alex in Chicago. Alex 1:28:42.040 --> 1:28:45.240 on the Patriots post game presented by Cyber Reason. Hello Alex, 1:28:46.280 --> 1:28:48.280 what's up, guys? Can you hear me? Okay? Yeah, yeah, 1:28:48.560 --> 1:28:53.880 it's a tremendous line. So I have a few quick 1:28:53.920 --> 1:28:56.680 takeaways and then I'll take it off the air, and 1:28:57.320 --> 1:28:59.120 if you guys have anything to say about any of them, 1:28:59.400 --> 1:29:04.000 I definitely to hear your guys's opinions. Number One, our 1:29:04.080 --> 1:29:08.360 linebacking corps looks like dinosaurs out there. I mean, I'm 1:29:08.439 --> 1:29:11.519 really tired of this experiment of mixing these young guys 1:29:11.520 --> 1:29:14.000 and old guys. I think they've played well at times, 1:29:14.000 --> 1:29:16.680 but I'm okay to just tear things down as the 1:29:16.760 --> 1:29:20.320 studs and just build a younger defense because tonight had 1:29:20.320 --> 1:29:25.080 really showed. Number two again I called in things before. 1:29:25.439 --> 1:29:28.960 You have seven eight players on this team that only 1:29:29.000 --> 1:29:33.800 play special teams and special teams stuck again. I don't 1:29:33.800 --> 1:29:36.679 want to see us waste ross response on these special 1:29:36.680 --> 1:29:39.559 teams players unless we play perfect on that side of 1:29:39.560 --> 1:29:42.640 the ball. I think that's ridiculous. And number three, the 1:29:42.680 --> 1:29:46.400 last one, MAC has played at a plateau all year. 1:29:46.840 --> 1:29:48.720 I don't think he's played bad. I don't think he's 1:29:48.720 --> 1:29:51.320 played good, but it is starting to worry me. That 1:29:51.479 --> 1:29:54.160 we're not seeing another gear. I feel like we're seeing 1:29:54.320 --> 1:29:58.240 the same mac again and again and again, and I 1:29:58.360 --> 1:29:59.920 just want to see him safe at the next step. 1:30:00.520 --> 1:30:02.840 And I want to know if maybe you guys think 1:30:02.880 --> 1:30:05.519 we had taken some kind of step forward or if 1:30:05.560 --> 1:30:08.439 he's just sort of at the same level. So all 1:30:08.600 --> 1:30:11.920 three three good points to touch on their Alex Deuce, 1:30:11.960 --> 1:30:13.920 you want to start with the linebacker backers? Three real 1:30:14.000 --> 1:30:16.439 good points. I'm yeah, I'll start with the linebackers. I 1:30:17.479 --> 1:30:20.160 think it's a great question, you know, And when they're 1:30:20.160 --> 1:30:23.559 winning and it's all going well, everybody's really happy about 1:30:23.600 --> 1:30:26.360 how smart they are and how tough they are, and 1:30:26.400 --> 1:30:28.400 they can beat up the bills, and then you know, 1:30:28.479 --> 1:30:32.120 getting like this happens where you can't really stop the 1:30:32.120 --> 1:30:34.559 best running back in the league and they look slow 1:30:34.600 --> 1:30:37.640 and they miss tackles, and so I don't know what 1:30:37.680 --> 1:30:39.559 the answer is. I mean, I wish I could tell you. 1:30:39.640 --> 1:30:41.599 I mean, and I'm telling you this is somebody who's 1:30:41.640 --> 1:30:44.760 been like, you know, passionately following the Patriots defense for 1:30:44.800 --> 1:30:48.360 like fourteen years now and waiting for the speed a 1:30:48.520 --> 1:30:51.120 linebacker and these things to you know, take a new level, 1:30:51.120 --> 1:30:53.559 and you know, when they brought van noyback. I was surprised. 1:30:53.560 --> 1:30:55.080 It just felt like, Hey, are we going to ouch 1:30:55.320 --> 1:30:57.360 and this time and we bring Collins back, and well, 1:30:57.560 --> 1:30:59.880 I'll win a bitch or Ronnie Perkins? Are these guys 1:31:00.000 --> 1:31:01.640 if we're gonna So these are all the kind of 1:31:01.640 --> 1:31:03.400 things going through my head as we as we talked 1:31:03.400 --> 1:31:04.920 about this here at quarter one in the morning. But 1:31:05.880 --> 1:31:08.920 it's a great question for this offseason. Jamie Collins, Kyle 1:31:09.000 --> 1:31:12.559 Vin or sorry high Tower, they're up the quarts up. 1:31:12.760 --> 1:31:14.439 I think they've got decisions to make, But I don't 1:31:14.439 --> 1:31:16.120 think any of these other guys that they drafted are 1:31:16.120 --> 1:31:17.880 really ready to step into any of those roles. So 1:31:18.040 --> 1:31:20.120 that's where I land on it. Mike is I'm not 1:31:20.160 --> 1:31:22.360 sure that the young guys. I mean, they've been banged up, 1:31:22.439 --> 1:31:24.519 you know. Ooch Now this is two years in a row. 1:31:24.520 --> 1:31:26.080 He's been banged up a little bit, and I know 1:31:26.160 --> 1:31:31.240 he's ready to come back and practicing and all that. Yeah, 1:31:31.280 --> 1:31:34.120 I mean, I think there's I think Van Noy has 1:31:34.120 --> 1:31:37.120 actually been better over the last over the last few 1:31:37.720 --> 1:31:42.360 last few months, you know. So listen, it's tough after 1:31:42.400 --> 1:31:44.280 a night where you give up two hunder yards rushing 1:31:44.280 --> 1:31:46.640 to say, I don't think the linebackers are a problem. 1:31:46.760 --> 1:31:49.200 I do think they miss Bentley tonight. He went out early, 1:31:49.240 --> 1:31:51.000 and I think that I think that was a problem. 1:31:51.040 --> 1:31:55.000 I think missing him put Collins out there more probably 1:31:55.040 --> 1:31:56.840 than you want to have him out Vannoy more in 1:31:56.880 --> 1:31:59.559 the middle in a run oriented game you probably don't 1:31:59.560 --> 1:32:02.400 want is much Collins. I thought Collins competed well though, 1:32:02.840 --> 1:32:05.080 um he was involved in the interception. He got his 1:32:05.120 --> 1:32:08.680 hand on the pass, almost had another interception. Man, you 1:32:08.720 --> 1:32:11.320 know there is there is the almost pick, and I 1:32:11.360 --> 1:32:13.920 thought he was involved in, you know, a big tackle 1:32:13.960 --> 1:32:15.760 for a lot. I don't think the linebackers have been 1:32:16.479 --> 1:32:19.360 a disaster. Do I think that they need to get younger? Yeah, yeah, 1:32:19.760 --> 1:32:21.400 but I just don't think that's going to happen. And 1:32:21.400 --> 1:32:24.519 even if they bring high Tower and mccordy and everybody 1:32:24.560 --> 1:32:26.880 back next year, they they've got a couple more years. 1:32:26.960 --> 1:32:28.720 It's like these guys are in their mid thirties, like 1:32:28.720 --> 1:32:31.880 it's it's gonna come. I'd like him later. Now, what 1:32:32.040 --> 1:32:35.720 was the second one? Special teams? Which has been There's 1:32:35.720 --> 1:32:38.160 been something that people have been harping on for years, 1:32:38.360 --> 1:32:41.160 and it's a valid point. If you are going to 1:32:41.720 --> 1:32:44.240 set aside money and have guys that are just there 1:32:44.280 --> 1:32:48.000 to play special teams. Uh, perfect is a lot to 1:32:48.040 --> 1:32:50.759 ask for, but it can't be what we saw tonight. 1:32:50.920 --> 1:32:52.800 Well I'll say this, and I say this every time 1:32:52.840 --> 1:32:56.479 I've asked this question. I don't know the roster makeup 1:32:56.520 --> 1:32:59.000 of every team, and I don't know how many guys 1:32:59.040 --> 1:33:01.320 that play special teams for the other teams are strictly 1:33:01.360 --> 1:33:04.040 special teamers. If you're telling me the Patriots have more 1:33:04.040 --> 1:33:07.360 than other teams, then I would say their special teams 1:33:07.360 --> 1:33:10.720 should be significantly better than other teams. But I don't 1:33:10.720 --> 1:33:13.960 know that that's that's the case. Okay, Um, In terms 1:33:14.000 --> 1:33:16.519 of Mac and that was the third point, I think 1:33:16.760 --> 1:33:19.799 he articulated that's a perfect point about a very good questions. 1:33:19.840 --> 1:33:22.120 I'm not worried about it in the least, but I 1:33:22.160 --> 1:33:25.000 think that he's been sort of Yeah. I think that's 1:33:25.000 --> 1:33:27.479 a positive that Yeah, And I wouldn't even say a plateau. 1:33:27.600 --> 1:33:30.559 I'd say it's been a season of ebbs and flows, 1:33:31.080 --> 1:33:34.640 and you know, the the high points. Yeah, he had 1:33:34.640 --> 1:33:36.479 a high point against the Jets. I think he had 1:33:36.479 --> 1:33:39.240 another one against against Cleveland. Yeah, I think those are 1:33:39.280 --> 1:33:43.040 those are probably the two high points. Um, but the 1:33:43.120 --> 1:33:46.799 Jets one. I know, you only play who you play, 1:33:46.920 --> 1:33:49.080 but you know, do you put that as as high 1:33:49.120 --> 1:33:52.599 as you would against performances against some other teams. That's 1:33:52.840 --> 1:33:54.720 that's a that's I don't but I don't take it 1:33:54.760 --> 1:33:56.880 away from him either. Don't take it away from I 1:33:56.880 --> 1:33:59.280 think he's been pretty consistent, and I think that's really 1:33:59.280 --> 1:34:02.880 good for a rookie quarterback. Rookie quarterbacks are usually wildly inconsistent. 1:34:02.920 --> 1:34:06.760 He hasn't been there. I agree with his the way 1:34:06.800 --> 1:34:10.439 he put it though, like I'm not concerned about the plateau, 1:34:10.439 --> 1:34:12.439 but I do think he's sort of been Like I'm 1:34:12.439 --> 1:34:14.519 not expecting to see a huge jump this year. I 1:34:14.520 --> 1:34:16.760 am not because this next time of the season where 1:34:16.840 --> 1:34:20.439 rookies tend to fall off, regardless of position they this 1:34:20.520 --> 1:34:25.000 is longer than he is. I mean duration wise, all right, Yes, 1:34:25.080 --> 1:34:27.680 they play into the new year, but it's with a 1:34:27.720 --> 1:34:30.160 three week break. You know, this is you know, this 1:34:30.280 --> 1:34:33.400 is more games than he's ever been accustomed to playing. 1:34:33.760 --> 1:34:36.479 And if anything, you actually see a drop off in 1:34:36.520 --> 1:34:38.720 a lot of rookies the way they're playing in their 1:34:38.720 --> 1:34:41.759 first year, just because this season is so much different 1:34:41.760 --> 1:34:44.479 with the number of games the schedule is different. So 1:34:46.280 --> 1:34:49.360 keep it in mind though that I feel the same 1:34:49.400 --> 1:34:51.160 way as Paul does do so I don't know about you. 1:34:51.360 --> 1:34:53.640 I'm not worried about mac Jones at all, but I 1:34:53.680 --> 1:34:57.040 also don't I don't think you should be waiting for 1:34:57.080 --> 1:35:00.000 a great leap forward to still be happening this year. Yeah, 1:35:00.080 --> 1:35:02.600 I agree with that, and I think the delay a 1:35:02.680 --> 1:35:05.160 game today probably kind of an example one of those 1:35:05.200 --> 1:35:07.640 like rookie moments where just you know, losing track of 1:35:07.680 --> 1:35:10.400 the time of it all. But I do. I mean, 1:35:10.439 --> 1:35:12.400 I think we've talked a lot on the on PU 1:35:12.640 --> 1:35:17.160 just about you know, Max Ceiling and how do you 1:35:17.280 --> 1:35:20.320 judge him compared to other usual rookie quarterbacks on The 1:35:20.360 --> 1:35:22.280 point I made this week was that usually you got 1:35:22.320 --> 1:35:25.840 somebody like Justin Fields who has all the physical ability 1:35:25.880 --> 1:35:28.120 in the world. He just needs to catch up mentally 1:35:28.120 --> 1:35:29.680 to the game. And that's usually where you're at with 1:35:29.680 --> 1:35:31.800 the rookie quarterback. Max a little bit different. He came in, 1:35:32.120 --> 1:35:34.000 he has a grasp of the offense, He kind of 1:35:34.040 --> 1:35:36.880 knows what he's doing, and you know, you're wondering, all right, well, 1:35:36.920 --> 1:35:39.479 what is year two of somebody who understands it look like, 1:35:39.520 --> 1:35:41.760 what does it look like when they start really understanding 1:35:41.760 --> 1:35:44.519 it even more? And you know, add in obviously an 1:35:44.600 --> 1:35:46.880 NFL strength program and all the things that he'll get 1:35:46.920 --> 1:35:49.639 to do this offseason. So I but I'm not gonna 1:35:49.680 --> 1:35:52.679 lie like I definitely, you know, have have some concerns 1:35:52.680 --> 1:35:55.840 about just, you know, how how good he really can be. 1:35:55.960 --> 1:35:57.760 I think he does a number of things on a 1:35:58.160 --> 1:36:01.400 very plus level or than you know, you might have expected. 1:36:01.439 --> 1:36:04.200 But h you know, I think here at the end, 1:36:04.280 --> 1:36:05.920 if they're gonna make the playoffs, if they're gonna make 1:36:05.960 --> 1:36:08.200 some noise, he's he's gonna have to. I don't know 1:36:08.280 --> 1:36:10.360 if just kind of keeping your hands at ten and 1:36:10.400 --> 1:36:12.719 two is going to get it done. Yeah. Uh. Kirk 1:36:12.720 --> 1:36:15.439 and Delaware says, I'm not upset with the decision to 1:36:15.520 --> 1:36:17.720 kick the field goal. I think it's a matter of 1:36:17.720 --> 1:36:21.040 how Bill views mistake prone games. He just can't trust 1:36:21.080 --> 1:36:25.240 players to stop making mistakes in key situations, and he 1:36:25.320 --> 1:36:27.800 decided to play it safe. I think if they don't 1:36:27.800 --> 1:36:32.000 commit that penalty, they absolutely go for it on fourth. Yeah, 1:36:32.040 --> 1:36:34.200 I mean from the two yard line. From the two 1:36:34.280 --> 1:36:36.559 yard line, probably run it twice. But there is something 1:36:36.560 --> 1:36:38.280 to this where it's like, you know, we talk about 1:36:38.320 --> 1:36:40.519 Bill kind of seeing how things are playing out and 1:36:41.080 --> 1:36:43.360 going with the field of the game. I wouldn't put 1:36:43.360 --> 1:36:45.519 it past Bill to say, you know what, these guys 1:36:45.560 --> 1:36:47.360 can't get out of their own way tonight. What am 1:36:47.360 --> 1:36:49.840 I gonna And it's why am I going to allow 1:36:49.880 --> 1:36:51.760 them to go for it from that much further out 1:36:51.800 --> 1:36:53.559 when they're just going to screw it up. It's a 1:36:53.560 --> 1:36:56.920 good point. It's a good and what's the emailer kirk Kirk. 1:36:56.960 --> 1:36:59.320 It is a good point. And I think of just 1:36:59.400 --> 1:37:02.640 as a compat us in said that Tampa Bay, the 1:37:02.720 --> 1:37:05.800 Tampa Bay game. The end of the game, Patriots are 1:37:05.800 --> 1:37:09.640 trailing by two, fourth and three from I don't know, 1:37:10.040 --> 1:37:14.200 the forty yard line ish, maybe maybe the thirty eight 1:37:14.479 --> 1:37:16.760 because it's a fifty six yard field goal, right, Yeah. 1:37:17.479 --> 1:37:21.080 And I think Bill mentioned and I think I'm not 1:37:21.080 --> 1:37:24.439 gonna quote and you know, I'm paraphrasing the you know, 1:37:24.520 --> 1:37:27.360 the summation of what he said. I think they were 1:37:27.400 --> 1:37:30.120 three for thirteen that night on third down. You know, 1:37:30.200 --> 1:37:34.160 our offense wasn't you know, we weren't picking up their downs, 1:37:34.200 --> 1:37:38.600 weren't we weren't converting our offense wasn't converting, and I 1:37:38.640 --> 1:37:41.880 think that sort of illustrates what Kirk's point is, when 1:37:41.920 --> 1:37:44.720 things are going in a certain way, maybe you don't 1:37:44.760 --> 1:37:46.719 have as much confidence that it's going to just stop 1:37:46.720 --> 1:37:49.840 on this magical play. Like we haven't been doing it 1:37:49.880 --> 1:37:52.040 all night, we haven't been converting all night, but this 1:37:52.080 --> 1:37:53.800 is the play we're going to convert. And I think 1:37:53.800 --> 1:37:56.200 that's why Bill decided to kick the field goal that night. 1:37:56.520 --> 1:37:58.479 It's because he didn't feel like the offense was playing 1:37:58.520 --> 1:38:01.280 all that well that night he was eight, and then tonight, 1:38:01.800 --> 1:38:06.080 I think that, you know, desperate times call for desperate measures. 1:38:06.080 --> 1:38:07.760 You had a chance to get within a score and 1:38:07.800 --> 1:38:10.680 you passed it up. I think that's would have been 1:38:10.760 --> 1:38:14.559 changing my philosophy. But Kirk may be right as to why. 1:38:14.960 --> 1:38:19.200 In other words, if it was you know, let's say 1:38:19.200 --> 1:38:23.080 it was it was thirty eight to twenty eight instead 1:38:23.120 --> 1:38:26.479 of you know, twenty to ten with that field goal, 1:38:27.040 --> 1:38:29.400 maybe Build thinks differently. You know, you know, we're moving 1:38:29.439 --> 1:38:31.800 the ball, we're scoring, we're gonna shoot out. It's our turn. 1:38:31.920 --> 1:38:36.920 You know we're gonna get this. Yeah. Sorry. Kirk also 1:38:36.960 --> 1:38:40.680 says no, I'm also glad the Patriots had some adversity 1:38:40.720 --> 1:38:43.600 before the postseason. I agree with already would prefer the 1:38:43.640 --> 1:38:49.360 struggle early versus late. Yeah, I mean, all things being equal, 1:38:49.520 --> 1:38:51.759 they were just playing if they were playing great football 1:38:51.880 --> 1:38:55.280 and things were clicking on in all three phases, and 1:38:55.320 --> 1:38:58.320 you're just picking up wins. Great if you're winning games 1:38:58.479 --> 1:39:01.400 like they have here recently, not in spite of Mac 1:39:01.520 --> 1:39:04.400 or in spite of the offense, but really without a 1:39:04.400 --> 1:39:08.320 lot of offensive contributions. No, I feel a reality check 1:39:08.400 --> 1:39:10.320 is in order, right. It's like a couple of weeks ago, 1:39:11.160 --> 1:39:13.240 I made a comment that, like, you know, how many 1:39:13.240 --> 1:39:15.360 of the wins would they have had with Brian Hoyer 1:39:15.400 --> 1:39:19.559 playing quarterback? And I got, really, I got a lot 1:39:19.560 --> 1:39:22.719 of pushback for that, like, maybe the number isn't nine, 1:39:23.120 --> 1:39:25.080 Maybe it's not. Maybe there's a couple of wins that 1:39:25.160 --> 1:39:28.519 Mac got that someone else wouldn't have. But I think 1:39:28.520 --> 1:39:30.880 for the most part, most of the wins have been 1:39:31.280 --> 1:39:34.040 we're going to run the ball, we're going to avoid mistakes, 1:39:34.240 --> 1:39:36.759 we're gonna kick field goals, and we're gonna play defense. 1:39:37.680 --> 1:39:39.919 Hasn't that been what most of the wins have been? Yeah, 1:39:39.720 --> 1:39:43.080 The Brian Hoyer company immediately brings up you know, his 1:39:43.240 --> 1:39:47.160 handling in the red zone against Kansas City. Oh, by 1:39:47.200 --> 1:39:49.000 the way, when he found out he was playing twenty 1:39:49.000 --> 1:39:51.400 four hours before the game. I look, I know, but 1:39:51.640 --> 1:39:53.719 in the toughest venue in the league at the time. 1:39:53.840 --> 1:39:57.040 It's just it's what people automatically think of, so they 1:39:57.040 --> 1:40:00.479 are reluctant to And I'm huge Brian Hoyer, Like I 1:40:00.479 --> 1:40:03.720 think Brian Hoyer is an average at best backup. But 1:40:04.200 --> 1:40:06.200 the way the games have unfolded, I think if you 1:40:06.280 --> 1:40:12.360 had just, you know, relatively mistake free quarterback play, you've 1:40:12.360 --> 1:40:13.840 had a chance to win a lot of the games. 1:40:13.880 --> 1:40:16.000 All Right, we have three calls and two emails all 1:40:16.040 --> 1:40:17.439 to get to here in the next ten minutes. We're 1:40:17.439 --> 1:40:19.640 gonna start with Ben and Maryland. Ben, go ahead, you're 1:40:19.680 --> 1:40:23.880 on the Patriots postgame show. Hi, thank you, um so 1:40:24.200 --> 1:40:28.200 man oh man phoot. Twitter tonight was kind of crazy. 1:40:27.800 --> 1:40:30.840 Um some people was saying like the file Belichick and 1:40:30.880 --> 1:40:34.680 all this crazy stuff. That pissed me off. But my 1:40:34.800 --> 1:40:36.519 question is, what do you guys think about, Like the 1:40:36.600 --> 1:40:40.120 play calling, especially in the red zone. Lots of foot 1:40:41.120 --> 1:40:44.280 downs within like the ten yard line, and we had 1:40:44.280 --> 1:40:49.200 to kick seal course, so yeah, yeah, d zone I 1:40:49.280 --> 1:40:53.200 thought the Colts defense dominated the game. I thought they 1:40:53.240 --> 1:40:55.400 dominated in the red zone. I thought they dominated out 1:40:55.400 --> 1:40:57.760 of the red zone and everywhere in between. How about 1:40:57.800 --> 1:41:01.000 this email Mark and Nova Scotia. How did the how 1:41:01.280 --> 1:41:04.120 in the hell did the Patriots get bullied so much? 1:41:04.560 --> 1:41:09.760 Both lines? Deuce called this early on man handled and 1:41:09.920 --> 1:41:12.960 lost the game. They were getting blown back on every play. 1:41:13.120 --> 1:41:17.000 Just disgusting, especially the old line. Yeah, well, I mean 1:41:17.040 --> 1:41:19.120 I got a lot of respect for for the Colts 1:41:19.200 --> 1:41:22.760 offensive line, so I, you know, not not as surprised, 1:41:22.800 --> 1:41:26.520 but yeah, it's it's it's just the speed, the aggressiveness 1:41:26.520 --> 1:41:28.400 with which it's just I mean, you're we're watching the 1:41:28.479 --> 1:41:31.679 highlights that the Colts are flying around at ninety miles 1:41:31.720 --> 1:41:33.840 an hour, and you know, the Patriots sometimes looked like 1:41:33.880 --> 1:41:36.519 they're stuck in mud. It's just it was something right 1:41:36.520 --> 1:41:38.320 out of the gate. You could tell the energy that 1:41:38.360 --> 1:41:40.400 they brought to the game, and you know, it's just 1:41:40.479 --> 1:41:42.280 it's not what you've seen out of the Patriots when 1:41:42.320 --> 1:41:45.719 they've been on and ready to go. Odd is in Boston. 1:41:45.920 --> 1:41:49.760 Thank you for joining us Patriots postgame show. Hello Odd, Hey, 1:41:49.800 --> 1:41:54.640 guys are done good. I kind a couple of things 1:41:54.640 --> 1:41:57.720 just to start with. I guess, just, um, when's the 1:41:57.800 --> 1:42:01.679 last time you guys can remember a game? Uh this loppy? 1:42:01.760 --> 1:42:04.240 I guess just in terms of like I was thinking, 1:42:04.240 --> 1:42:06.640 I guess maybe the Houston game. But I guess it's 1:42:06.680 --> 1:42:10.479 hard because we won that game. But just no, good, 1:42:11.120 --> 1:42:13.599 here's good. I think week six was filled with games 1:42:13.640 --> 1:42:15.400 like that. I mean, the first six weeks were filled 1:42:15.439 --> 1:42:19.439 with weeks like this, lots of penalties, turnovers. It is 1:42:19.479 --> 1:42:22.360 the third blocked punch of the season, So the first 1:42:22.360 --> 1:42:25.599 two happened in the first six weeks. Yeah, I mean, 1:42:25.640 --> 1:42:27.360 I think it's been a while. It's you know that 1:42:27.360 --> 1:42:29.800 that was the key to the seven game winning streak. 1:42:29.880 --> 1:42:33.160 They cleaned that stuff up and didn't beat themselves tonight 1:42:33.200 --> 1:42:36.439 they beat themselves. Yeah. And then I also was wondering, 1:42:36.640 --> 1:42:40.080 like on the broadcast, if you guys could see Mac 1:42:40.240 --> 1:42:45.160 like he did. He look just like wrong to you guys, 1:42:45.160 --> 1:42:46.800 Like he looked like he was like stick, like he 1:42:46.880 --> 1:42:50.519 got his booster shot yesterday, or well then maybe he did. 1:42:50.520 --> 1:42:53.760 It's affecting some people more than others, like that he looked, 1:42:54.080 --> 1:42:57.639 he looked in shock. He looked in shock. After after 1:42:57.800 --> 1:43:00.960 the picks, they were all over him, he was under fire, 1:43:01.160 --> 1:43:05.519 he was throwing picks. Yeah, welcome to the NFL. Greg 1:43:05.640 --> 1:43:07.960 is in Rhode Island. Hello, Greg, thanks for joining us 1:43:07.960 --> 1:43:11.559 Patriots post game show. What's up? Hey? Great? Hey, how's 1:43:11.560 --> 1:43:16.040 it going y'all? Just real quick, I'm sorry, Paul. I 1:43:16.960 --> 1:43:19.120 listened to the Patriots and filter, and I heard a 1:43:19.120 --> 1:43:21.839 lot of the like we're gonna blow out the Poles. 1:43:22.439 --> 1:43:25.000 I wrote it in earlier, and I thought we were 1:43:25.000 --> 1:43:26.920 going to actually get blown out by the Cults. I 1:43:26.920 --> 1:43:29.240 thought it was gonna be like thirty one ten something 1:43:29.280 --> 1:43:31.920 like that. I didn't get so far off. I thought 1:43:31.920 --> 1:43:34.200 they were a decent team. I guess. I'm just curious 1:43:34.200 --> 1:43:37.360 if you guys thought our game plan going into the 1:43:37.400 --> 1:43:41.160 game was just a little bit too conservative or too 1:43:41.280 --> 1:43:47.120 run centric. I'm just curious because because they're a good team. 1:43:47.160 --> 1:43:50.000 They're a decent team. I actually like, I think they're 1:43:50.240 --> 1:43:54.720 very similar to come to the Patriots, but very much so. 1:43:54.880 --> 1:44:01.160 We're probably probably better players individual players at every positional group. 1:44:01.400 --> 1:44:04.719 They've got probably better individual players than every positional group 1:44:04.800 --> 1:44:06.960 trying to do the same thing the Patriots too. And 1:44:07.000 --> 1:44:09.519 I think that was smart to get your thoughts on that. 1:44:09.680 --> 1:44:12.200 I agree. I think they merited images. I think Mike 1:44:12.240 --> 1:44:14.000 and I were talking about that all week. But just 1:44:14.280 --> 1:44:15.840 I just want to push back a little bit on 1:44:15.880 --> 1:44:18.600 the conservative start to the game. Like they ran the 1:44:18.600 --> 1:44:20.400 ball on first down in the first play of the game. 1:44:20.760 --> 1:44:27.680 Then it was pass pass pass pass, pass penalty penalty. 1:44:28.080 --> 1:44:30.360 So now you got a pass. Now you had a run. 1:44:30.439 --> 1:44:33.240 Here's a call that I hated. Second and nineteen run. 1:44:33.640 --> 1:44:36.120 Hated it, okay, and then and then mac is because 1:44:36.160 --> 1:44:38.200 they were they were like in midfield, weren't they. It 1:44:38.240 --> 1:44:41.840 was second and nineteen from the Patriots forty three. Yeah, 1:44:41.880 --> 1:44:46.120 and they ran, but they came out throwing right, moved 1:44:46.160 --> 1:44:48.479 the ball. They well they for the first few plays 1:44:48.439 --> 1:44:50.120 they didn't really move the ball, but they came out 1:44:50.200 --> 1:44:52.320 throwing it. They got a first down, and then they 1:44:52.320 --> 1:44:55.479 committed penalties like that kills you. But I'm just saying, 1:44:55.560 --> 1:44:58.880 like they ran for four yards on first down, then 1:44:58.920 --> 1:45:01.599 it's a pass or four yards, and then a pass 1:45:01.680 --> 1:45:05.160 for ten yards first down, and then a pass attempt 1:45:05.280 --> 1:45:09.000 that Mack ends up scrambling for another first down, right, 1:45:09.920 --> 1:45:12.120 so that's another and then they pass again and commit 1:45:12.160 --> 1:45:14.800 a penalty, and now you're in long yard and situations. 1:45:15.120 --> 1:45:21.000 So the penalties and sloppy play early on just absolutely yes, absolutely, 1:45:21.000 --> 1:45:24.400 actually feel like it's weird because later in the game 1:45:24.439 --> 1:45:26.920 we had a lot of success throwing the ball a 1:45:27.000 --> 1:45:30.640 little bit more aggressively. Maybe that was just we were 1:45:30.680 --> 1:45:35.720 benefiting from the cold is changing their defenses, yes, philosophy. Yes, 1:45:35.800 --> 1:45:40.800 they stopped blitzing, they sat back in a soft, soft shell. Yeah. Yeah, 1:45:41.040 --> 1:45:43.080 all of that came in the fourth quarter when they 1:45:43.120 --> 1:45:45.160 were down twenty to nothing. Right, hey, Greg, thanks what 1:45:45.240 --> 1:45:47.200 they call We appreciate it. We'll step aside one more 1:45:47.240 --> 1:45:49.720 time here, thank you to bridge a break. Yeah, it's 1:45:49.720 --> 1:45:52.920 just a quick one here. The breaks just comes this show. 1:45:54.800 --> 1:45:57.160 It barely feels like working, you know when your break 1:45:57.439 --> 1:45:59.639 three times over the course of two hours for thirty 1:45:59.680 --> 1:46:03.759 wholes seconds. Bridgestone the official tire of the New England 1:46:03.760 --> 1:46:07.479 Patriots and it's proudly sold at Sullivan Entire. Visits Sullivan 1:46:07.600 --> 1:46:11.479 Entire dot com for locations and offers. 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I don't think Matt Jones is that 1:48:30.040 --> 1:48:33.000 good like just happened. It was relation. It was in 1:48:33.080 --> 1:48:37.080 relation to Brady. Oh yeah, but nope, I'm never gonna 1:48:37.520 --> 1:48:40.599 get it. Soundclip by Matt Morrel right right, which which 1:48:40.600 --> 1:48:44.679 I ordered? I ordered the code red. Yeah, I would 1:48:44.680 --> 1:48:47.400 like to I would like to commission some audio production 1:48:47.520 --> 1:48:50.400 correct uh high of which did I get a fuck it? 1:48:51.840 --> 1:48:54.000 H No? I thought there was. I thought there was 1:48:54.040 --> 1:48:56.679 a good back and forth at the beginning of the show. 1:48:56.760 --> 1:48:58.639 I actually had it in mind as I was talking 1:48:59.000 --> 1:49:01.120 and trying to go to your head and he's trying 1:49:01.160 --> 1:49:03.400 to go a little bit into it. But and then 1:49:03.680 --> 1:49:05.400 James Stewart alerted me that it was going to be 1:49:05.400 --> 1:49:07.559 a best of for the week anyway, and I said, Okay, 1:49:08.080 --> 1:49:11.559 I don't think Max that good. Wow wow, And that's 1:49:11.880 --> 1:49:16.280 that sounds totally out of context too. It's the greatest 1:49:16.320 --> 1:49:18.840 thing ever, right it said, But it sounds genuine. It 1:49:18.880 --> 1:49:24.759 doesn't sound out a context. I don't think Max that good, Wow, excellent, drop, 1:49:24.880 --> 1:49:27.720 well done all around, big the big boss Man. It's 1:49:27.760 --> 1:49:29.760 like it's not like it was something like it's it's 1:49:29.760 --> 1:49:31.400 not like he's the next Brady. I don't think he's 1:49:31.439 --> 1:49:34.120 that good. I think that's what he said. I go, 1:49:34.600 --> 1:49:37.559 I go, whoa, woa, whoa whoa. You heard it? Yeah, 1:49:37.560 --> 1:49:40.280 Fred doesn't think mac Jones is that good. The inflection 1:49:40.400 --> 1:49:43.519 is right, everything about it is right. Yeah. Uh, Tim 1:49:43.520 --> 1:49:47.960 and New Hampshire. Any long term implications from what you 1:49:48.000 --> 1:49:50.320 saw during this loss, there's a good final question for 1:49:50.360 --> 1:49:52.960 the post game. Personally, this makes me worry for the 1:49:53.040 --> 1:49:55.479 run defense. So we allowed a team to beat us 1:49:55.479 --> 1:49:57.680 with less than fifteen pass attempt and we went in 1:49:57.760 --> 1:50:01.040 attempting to stop the runt. Listening to this season, look 1:50:01.040 --> 1:50:03.320 forward to becoming a long time listener. Thanks Tim ROSSI 1:50:04.240 --> 1:50:07.920 h long term that's a good says a worry. It's 1:50:08.080 --> 1:50:10.559 it's more of a concern than certainly going in at 1:50:10.960 --> 1:50:13.080 I mean, yes, but but I also think this is 1:50:13.120 --> 1:50:15.040 who I thought this Patriots team was. I think that 1:50:15.120 --> 1:50:18.400 they are one of the B level contenders in the AFC, 1:50:18.560 --> 1:50:20.880 and granted they're just about all B level contenders at 1:50:20.880 --> 1:50:24.639 this point, but you know, they have they have some flaws, 1:50:24.680 --> 1:50:26.200 they have issues, and the games need to go a 1:50:26.240 --> 1:50:28.600 certain way and they need to They certainly need to 1:50:28.600 --> 1:50:31.080 clean up the ball security and the penalties, and that's 1:50:31.160 --> 1:50:32.679 you know, going back to the beginning of the season, 1:50:32.720 --> 1:50:35.120 we knew that they clean that up, they can beat anybody. 1:50:35.120 --> 1:50:37.519 If they don't, they can lose to anybody. All right, 1:50:38.080 --> 1:50:40.559 any other final thoughts on the game here tonight, Paul, 1:50:40.720 --> 1:50:43.479 Paul just one of those stinkers that they didn't do 1:50:43.520 --> 1:50:46.760 anything really well in the game, and they happened. It 1:50:46.880 --> 1:50:49.760 happened at a bad time. But um, you get a 1:50:49.840 --> 1:50:53.440 chance to write the ship with a huge game, huge, 1:50:53.800 --> 1:50:56.599 huge game. I don't think you can get enough hype 1:50:56.640 --> 1:50:59.559 that you know, for the Buffalo game, assuming Buffalo takes 1:50:59.560 --> 1:51:04.519 care of this tomorrow against Carolina, that that game next Sunday, 1:51:04.600 --> 1:51:07.559 the day after Christmas, will be enormous. And I mean 1:51:07.600 --> 1:51:09.280 not to jinx it, but I hope that we have 1:51:09.400 --> 1:51:13.559 fans and we're all there and it's goes off. Oh 1:51:13.600 --> 1:51:18.240 pish shaw, this will all magically go. Yeah. Uh, do 1:51:18.280 --> 1:51:25.160 not despair the Patriots. I don't think reasonably, I was 1:51:25.160 --> 1:51:27.960 expecting them to run the table and rattle off eleven 1:51:28.000 --> 1:51:31.320 straight wins. If a loss was coming, good, Have it 1:51:31.320 --> 1:51:34.519 happened tonight. Get your head right, get your bodies right, 1:51:34.840 --> 1:51:37.320 get the attitude and the game plan right for Buffalo 1:51:37.600 --> 1:51:41.080 a week from tomorrow here at Gillette Stadium. Everything's gonna 1:51:41.080 --> 1:51:46.040 be okay, okay, East Chance, Let's go. It has been written, 1:51:46.960 --> 1:51:49.639 let it be written, Let it be done. Final score 1:51:49.760 --> 1:51:55.360 for the final time Patriots seventeen. Oh we finally read 1:51:55.360 --> 1:51:58.880 it the right way. Oh wait, Indianapolis Colts twenty seven. 1:51:59.000 --> 1:52:01.960 That's for you, Paul. Thank you for listening and watching. 1:52:03.120 --> 1:52:06.960 Thank you for downloading this podcast. Subscribe on Apple, google Play, 1:52:06.960 --> 1:52:10.080 and everywhere else you listen. Like the show, please rate 1:52:10.080 --> 1:52:13.240 and review us. 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