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Speaker 1: boys with the Thanksgiving games, because we've got some fun
Speaker 1: ones here. The Green Bay Packers coming off a big victory.
Speaker 1: I know you two very excited, and let me start
Speaker 1: there because I am angry. I promised that I would
Speaker 1: lose my mind here on the show about the Chargers
Speaker 1: last week, boys, I said, I'm confident in the Chargers,
Speaker 1: and I felt dirty and wrong, and I was wrong.
Speaker 1: It sucked. I'm mad. I'm mad at Brandon Staley, I'm
Speaker 1: mad at the Chargers. I'm mad at the city of
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, the whole thing. It was terrible, no good.
Speaker 1: But the Green Bay Packers were good enough. They are
Speaker 1: going to be underdogs though when they go to Detroit.
Speaker 1: Troit's now eight and two after another big victory against
Speaker 1: the Bears at home. This one's in Detroit. Seven and
Speaker 1: a half is the number here on the Detroit side.
Speaker 1: Forty six and a half over is the consensus line
Speaker 1: you're getting on betting pros, and plus two eighty five
Speaker 1: for the upset. Sam let's start with you on this
Speaker 1: one here, because I already got to talk to fits
Speaker 1: about the Packers more this morning on our FP show.
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about the Packers. What
Speaker 1: you saw. Obviously, Aaron Jones highly unlikely to play in
Speaker 1: this game. I think we can all agree on that.
Speaker 1: So what does this mean here for this number of
Speaker 1: the seven and a half? And do you put any
Speaker 1: sort of stock in what Andrew Erickson's been saying for
Speaker 1: a few weeks now, which is ford Field might as
Speaker 1: well be called Corsfield.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I understand that reference, but as
Speaker 2: far as.
Speaker 1: The baseball reference, it means a lot of scoring. There
Speaker 1: you go. I found the one spot there, the one
Speaker 1: sport here where Sammy is not is up to speed.
Speaker 2: Right. This is human, but it was pretty far out
Speaker 2: of left field, and I wasn't quite quite expecting it.
Speaker 2: But in any case, the Aaron Jones interest injury is interesting.
Speaker 2: I think the way that Green Bay wins this game
Speaker 2: is attacking the lines through the air. That's part of
Speaker 2: the probably the weakest part of their defense, and I
Speaker 2: think that's honestly good because aj Dillon might be the
Speaker 2: only running back available for the Packers in this game.
Speaker 2: Their third string running back also got injured on Sunday.
Speaker 2: But I do think that Detroit, especially after the lesson
Speaker 2: inspiring outing from Jared Goff with three interceptions, is going
Speaker 2: to lean into the run, which has been a struggle
Speaker 2: for green Bay to stop. They allow a five point
Speaker 2: three percent explosive rush rate this year, which is the
Speaker 2: fourth worst in the league. Detroit has a negative ten
Speaker 2: percent pass right over expectation in two of their last
Speaker 2: three games. Detroit, I think has the coaching advantage in
Speaker 2: this game, so I expect Detroit to just sort of
Speaker 2: play a little easier run the ball with Montgomery and
Speaker 2: Gibbs and come away with this. If they're going to limit,
Speaker 2: if they're able to limit green Bay to a couple
Speaker 2: of three and out drives and then just pound the
Speaker 2: clock by running the ball, then I expect Detroit to
Speaker 2: be able to cover this. I had Detroit min Is
Speaker 2: state for my numbers that it's at seven and a
Speaker 2: half right now, So I'm I'm leaning Detroit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm on the Detroit lean as well. Pat, how
Speaker 1: about you. I just feel like Detroit sort of smells
Speaker 1: that they can win this division and lock things up,
Speaker 1: and this is a big game for them in order
Speaker 1: to really solidify them at the top of that North.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: If I was going to bet Detroit, and I'm kind
Speaker 3: of leaning that way myself, I would want him at seven.
Speaker 4: Man, I do not like seven and a half.
Speaker 3: So you know, it's funny if you look at Massy
Speaker 3: Peabody rankings, which.
Speaker 4: Are a very useful tool for betters.
Speaker 3: By the way, Massy Peabody had the Alliance as being
Speaker 3: not quite three points better than the Packers on a
Speaker 3: neutral field as of going into week eleven, So it
Speaker 3: seems like based on that there might be value on
Speaker 3: the Packers. I don't really buy it. I think what
Speaker 3: I'm going to do is play the over Joe. You
Speaker 3: made the cores field reference it might be apt here,
Speaker 3: and especially the way this game sets up, the Packers
Speaker 3: are going to have to lean on their passing game.
Speaker 3: With no Aaron Jones a forty five and a half,
Speaker 3: it seems kind of a high total for the Packers,
Speaker 3: who are slow paced and not exactly explosive on offense,
Speaker 3: but they're gonna be forced to throw, and we know
Speaker 3: they don't defend the run well and the Lions might
Speaker 3: be able to just run it down their throat. So yeah,
Speaker 3: over is my leaning here, not real interest in either side.
Speaker 1: And then numbers already jumping up to forty six and
Speaker 1: a half and some spots. Still okay with that one.
Speaker 3: Just yeah, I think so I'd played up to forty
Speaker 3: all right, six and a half forty seven.
Speaker 4: Maybe let's get.
Speaker 1: To the next one here, the Dallas Cowboys seven and
Speaker 1: three are hosting the Washington Commanders who lost to the Giants.
Speaker 1: God what, let's not even get to that. Let's let's
Speaker 1: talk about instead. The numbers, of course is double digits
Speaker 1: minus eleven here for the Dallas Cowboys at home minus
Speaker 1: one ten. The consensus line of betting pros is forty
Speaker 1: eight and a half plus four to twenty five for
Speaker 1: the Washington upset. I know we always get Sam Howell
Speaker 1: plays up and down to the competition. This is one
Speaker 1: of the play up to the competition. So pat do
Speaker 1: you think he plays up to the competition and somehow
Speaker 1: keeps this within the eleven or do you think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys continue at home to just look like an offensive juggernaut,
Speaker 1: which they have here ever since the buye.
Speaker 4: The Ladder Joe.
Speaker 3: I think the Cowboys have done really well against lesser competition.
Speaker 3: They are four and one against the spread against teams
Speaker 3: who they've been favored by at least six points against,
Speaker 3: and that doesn't even even include their forty to nothing
Speaker 3: shall lacking of the Giants in Week one, where they
Speaker 3: were only favored by three and a half. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm I'm gonna bet the Cowboys here to
Speaker 3: you know, put Washington away. I mean, Washington showed their
Speaker 3: true colors against the Giants. They were just terrible in
Speaker 3: Week eleven. And it seems like this total is pretty
Speaker 3: tall too, because I'm not sure if the Commanders are
Speaker 3: going to do their part to push this game over
Speaker 3: against that Dallas defense. And I mean, by the way,
Speaker 3: like the total jump from forty seven and a half
Speaker 3: on Sunday night to forty eight and a half on
Speaker 3: Monday morning, Like I don't understand that. So like I
Speaker 3: like the under a lot, I like getting that extra point. Yeah,
Speaker 3: unless Dallas puts up a forty burger on the Commanders,
Speaker 3: I don't see this one going over.
Speaker 1: That's the question, like if do they put up thirty five?
Speaker 1: If they put up thirty five, Sam to me, I
Speaker 1: think the forty eight and a half as well within range.
Speaker 1: I think the Washington do their part in that. But
Speaker 1: is there a certain aspect of this game that has
Speaker 1: you interested in the early value?
Speaker 2: Definitely taking Dallas with the points. They have six wins
Speaker 2: this year by at least twenty points, which is just absurd.
Speaker 2: Washington had did have six turnovers against the Giants this
Speaker 2: past week, which is why I am now knocked out
Speaker 2: of the survivor league that I was in. The Washington
Speaker 2: rushing defense has played pretty decent lately. They haven't allowed
Speaker 2: a success rate over forty percent since week eight. The
Speaker 2: problem is Dallas is throwing a ton. They have a
Speaker 2: sixty four point two percent neutral script pass right over
Speaker 2: the last four weeks. Dak is just dealing. He is
Speaker 2: going to carve up this Washington secondary more than the
Speaker 2: turkey is going to be carved up in the kitchen.
Speaker 1: There you go, all right, let's go to the night
Speaker 1: game here San Francisco looking great. They're to go on
Speaker 1: the road at seven and three. There seven point favorites
Speaker 1: there in Seattle. Now Gino Smith unlikely to play probably
Speaker 1: in this game at this point, dealing with that Tricep
Speaker 1: injury and that tough loss there to the Rams. Forty
Speaker 1: two and a half is the number at minus one
Speaker 1: ten the consensus line of VP for the Seattle upset,
Speaker 1: it's plus two to fifty. Sam, do we see the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers just continue to roll because it feels
Speaker 1: like coming out of that buy this is a rejuvenated
Speaker 1: San Francisco team and that pass rush now with Bosa
Speaker 1: and Chase on either side, is pretty ferocious. And Seattle
Speaker 1: not only down Gino but also probably down Kenneth Walker
Speaker 1: too for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this one's got a lot of injury things to
Speaker 2: keep an eye on over the next couple of days.
Speaker 2: I really hope we get Gino in this game. Otherwise
Speaker 2: that trip to fan is probably going to hit a
Speaker 2: little harder than normal. Early in the.
Speaker 1: Evening, Sammy's got jokes today, Pat I means he is ready,
Speaker 1: he has done, he is ready for a break.
Speaker 2: Well when I mean this is the week to get
Speaker 2: the Thanksgiving puns in, so you got to take advantage.
Speaker 2: But I think doing your part, I think Gino might
Speaker 2: actually play in this game, given that he came back
Speaker 2: in the last drive of the game against Los Angeles
Speaker 2: this past week. That said, I love San Francisco minus
Speaker 2: six and a half here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen the number move to seven here in
Speaker 1: a lot of spots already. I'm still comfortable. I think
Speaker 1: they win this game by double digits. Pat like, this one,
Speaker 1: to me is one of the best early lines of
Speaker 1: the week. I want to jump on it right now
Speaker 1: because whether Gino plays or not, he's not one hundred percent,
Speaker 1: So I just believe in San Francisco right now. What
Speaker 1: are your thoughts?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and these teams played three times last season, Joe
Speaker 3: and the forty nine Ers won all three in the
Speaker 3: average margin victory was fifteen points six points, so I
Speaker 3: could not possibly take Seattle here. And I kind of
Speaker 3: like the over based on the hope largely that Gino
Speaker 3: does play. I mean, I think both of these teams
Speaker 3: are maybe a little better on offense than they are
Speaker 3: on defense. The forty nine Ers are first in offensive
Speaker 3: DVA the Seahawks eleventh, and in defensive DVA the forty
Speaker 3: nine Ers are tenth the Hawks twentieth. So I think
Speaker 3: we're gonna get points in this game if Gino plays,
Speaker 3: and maybe even if it's Drew Locke.
Speaker 1: Don't forget tomorrow, everybody. We've got a Thanksgiving special Andrew
Speaker 1: Erickson myself breaking down all the games and the Black
Speaker 1: Friday Game as well, for not only the games in
Speaker 1: between the betting stuff, we've got the prop stuff. We're
Speaker 1: gonna do all of it here our favorite parlays of
Speaker 1: the day too. To enjoy the Thanksgiving games and have
Speaker 1: a little action there on the side. And of course
Speaker 1: the Black Friday Game a new tradition here. We'll see
Speaker 1: how this one goes. And of course the league has
Speaker 1: to give us more Jets, because if there's one thing
Speaker 1: I can't get enough of, it's standalone New York football.
Speaker 1: Between the Jets and Giants. One of those two teams
Speaker 1: has got to be a standalone game, right, So let's
Speaker 1: talk about it. The Jets obviously underdogs, because well, Zach
Speaker 1: Wilson is horrible and the Jets offense is future. They
Speaker 1: are eight point underdogs against the Miami Dolphins. Forty one
Speaker 1: is the number for this one. The Jets on the
Speaker 1: money lines plus three hundred. Pat Look, I'm taking the
Speaker 1: Dolphins here, this isn't double digits because they're giving respect
Speaker 1: to the Jets defense. But I don't want to give
Speaker 1: the Jets too much respect. I think this eight is
Speaker 1: so comfortable. I think Miami wins this one by ten
Speaker 1: or more. Your thoughts in this contest.
Speaker 3: I totally get it, Joe. The last time we wrote
Speaker 3: off the Jets for lack of offense, they rebounded in a
Speaker 3: pretty big way. Like in weeks two and three, the
Speaker 3: Jets put up ten points against Dallas, ten points against
Speaker 3: the Patriots. Then in Week four they hung tough with
Speaker 3: the Chiefs and lost twenty three to twenty covered easily,
Speaker 3: and then they won three straight, beating the Broncos, Eagles,
Speaker 3: and Giants. The one thing the Jets do really well
Speaker 3: is blanket wide receivers, and if they are able to
Speaker 3: keep Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle under wraps, maybe they
Speaker 3: can cover this number. So I'm kind of not interested
Speaker 3: in either side.
Speaker 4: I don't know. Dolphins just feels like a little bit
Speaker 4: of a trap to me, Joe.
Speaker 3: I just can't shake that feeling, and like this game
Speaker 3: could conceivably play under forty one and a half or
Speaker 3: forty one or whatever.
Speaker 4: It's at now.
Speaker 1: That's interesting POV. Yeah, like using POV, Sam, what do
Speaker 1: you think about that potentially on the under of this game,
Speaker 1: because I mean, you know the Jets are going to
Speaker 1: do their part there, like you know that's going to happen.
Speaker 1: So if they are a little lackluster or if they
Speaker 1: are a little bit you know, slow here in the
Speaker 1: shorter week preparation wise, what do you make of maybe
Speaker 1: the under being the best play in this game?
Speaker 2: Sam, Yeah, I think it's certainly in play. Again, there's
Speaker 2: some injury concerns here. Mackai Becton got hurt. I think
Speaker 2: the Jets have now already used thirteen different offensive line combinations,
Speaker 2: which is not good folks. So I think that is
Speaker 2: going to contribute to things. The Miami defense has been
Speaker 2: improving quite a bit as well. They allowed as success
Speaker 2: rate over fifty percent in three of the four first
Speaker 2: four weeks of the season, but they have allowed just
Speaker 2: two games over a forty percent success rate since Week five,
Speaker 2: so they're getting better. Jalen Ramsey being there helps a ton.
Speaker 2: Vic Fangio sort of leaning into that role as well.
Speaker 2: We've seen Miami with a couple of injuries as well,
Speaker 2: Devon a Chan I'm sure if he's going to be
Speaker 2: able to return. Tyreek Hill left the game but did
Speaker 2: come back, so that is something to monitor. It seems
Speaker 2: like he's going to play this week. But the Jets
Speaker 2: defense is I think they showed a little bit of
Speaker 2: some holes against the Bills this past week. And the
Speaker 2: Dolphins I think are as good of, if not a
Speaker 2: better offense than the Bills right now. So the under
Speaker 2: is a little scary, but I understand the logic behind it.
Speaker 1: All right, fair enough, let's go to the next one here,
Speaker 1: and this is gonna be a fun game. This is
Speaker 1: basically a playoff game. We're going to jump into the
Speaker 1: Houston tech and six and four hosting the Jaguars, So
Speaker 1: this one's practically a pick him on betting pros. Right now.
Speaker 1: You've got Jacksonville's one point favorites forty seven is the number,
Speaker 1: and you've got Houston at minus one oh five is
Speaker 1: the best spot you can get it right now on
Speaker 1: the money line, Sam, are you ready to put your
Speaker 1: faith in the Houston Texans at home in a big spot,
Speaker 1: in a big game that really will determine their faith
Speaker 1: or is it time for the Jaguars to just start
Speaker 1: handling their business after a shaky middle of the season.
Speaker 2: Here for them, this is I mean, this is going
Speaker 2: to be a fascinating game. I'm really excited for this one.
Speaker 4: This.
Speaker 2: If the Texans win, they have the front seat in
Speaker 2: winning the AFC South, Which if you had said that
Speaker 2: three months ago, people would have been laughing at you.
Speaker 2: But c J. Straud this past week did show that
Speaker 2: he is human. He had probably his worst half of
Speaker 2: football through three interceptions on Sunday. Meanwhile, Trevor Lawrence had
Speaker 2: probably his best game of the season so far, I
Speaker 2: believe through four touchdown passes at least accounted for four.
Speaker 2: I don't have a lean on this one. I think Texas,
Speaker 2: excuse me, the Texans. I made them as a half
Speaker 2: point favorite, so basically a pick them here. I slightly
Speaker 2: lean towards the Texans just because they are at home again.
Speaker 2: You're buying them sort of with a little bit of
Speaker 2: depressed value after the lackluster offensive performance. But this one,
Speaker 2: I think I might lean towards the under on this
Speaker 2: one as well. Jacksonville plays pretty slow, they do rush
Speaker 2: the ball a little bit, and they're bad at rushing
Speaker 2: the ball. As well, so I lean towards the under
Speaker 2: and hoping for a great game.
Speaker 1: All right, Pat, your thoughts, This should be in theory
Speaker 1: one to watch this week. This is definitely a game
Speaker 1: that has massive playoff implications and obviously for this Division two,
Speaker 1: as Sam laid it out, you know, if Houston handles
Speaker 1: their business, their schedule is a bit more favorable. So
Speaker 1: the pressure I think is on the Jaguars. How do
Speaker 1: you think they respond?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Fun matchup for sure, Joe.
Speaker 3: The Jaguars are one of my favorite bets of the week,
Speaker 3: and since since the beginning of October they have covered
Speaker 3: in six of seven games, failing only to do so
Speaker 3: in that blowout loss to the forty nine ers coming
Speaker 3: out of their buy. So I think the Texans have
Speaker 3: just been slightly overvalued in the betting market for weeks.
Speaker 4: And I get it.
Speaker 3: I mean they are fun as can be, but I
Speaker 3: think the spreads have sort of overcooked the numbers on
Speaker 3: the Texans a little bit. So, like I think they're
Speaker 3: getting maybe two points a week that they probably shouldn't
Speaker 3: be getting. So I think the Jags are of value here.
Speaker 3: I think the Jags are going to win straight up.
Speaker 3: They're the better team, and yeah, I think there's a
Speaker 3: lot of value on them this week.
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough here, let's go to the next one.
Speaker 1: Here on the slate, we've got the Pittsburgh Steelers somehow
Speaker 1: at six and four and the Joe Burrow lists Cincinnati
Speaker 1: Bengals this one right now, the Pittsburgh Steelers are favored
Speaker 1: by one. That's where the spread's at minus one ten.
Speaker 1: You've also got thirty four and a half as the
Speaker 1: over under for this one minus one oh five for
Speaker 1: the Bengals to win. Now, we'll see how the Bengals respond.
Speaker 1: Without Joe Burrow, I know, no one really holding their
Speaker 1: breath with excitement. Pat, I'm just running right to the
Speaker 1: under on this one, thirty four and a half. I mean,
Speaker 1: with the way these two offenses might be looking, I
Speaker 1: think that one still might be safe. What do you think?
Speaker 3: Yes, thank you Joe for validating that opinion. Like a
Speaker 3: lot of these games this week with super low totals,
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I'll take the under.
Speaker 4: I can see it.
Speaker 3: And this one opened with the Bengals favored by one point,
Speaker 3: which was just astonishing. As miserable as the Kenny Pickett
Speaker 3: Matt Canada experience has been for Steelers fans, like, how
Speaker 3: could the Bengals open as a favorite with Jake Browning
Speaker 3: at quarterback? So man morale and the Bengals locker room
Speaker 3: just can't be real high at the moment after losing
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow for the rest of the season and knowing
Speaker 3: that any title aspirations you had are pretty much out
Speaker 3: the window.
Speaker 4: So I kind of like the Steelers here, and I
Speaker 4: definitely like the under.
Speaker 1: Okay, Sam, what do you like in this contest?
Speaker 2: I feel like Pittsburgh is the move here just given
Speaker 2: their defense, but I do not trust Kenny Pickett at all.
Speaker 2: Benjamin Solak from The Ringer posted a clip of all
Speaker 2: of Kenny Pickett's throws past the line of scrimmage this
Speaker 2: past week, and it was forty four seconds of tortress
Speaker 2: video football. You know, there might be this whole Jake Browning,
Speaker 2: you know, first start, does he catch Pittsburgh off guard
Speaker 2: type stuff? I think, you know, whether t Higgins is
Speaker 2: back in this game could make that a difference there too.
Speaker 2: I'm staying away. I'd rather not look at their enough.
Speaker 1: I still think that that under is I mean, especially
Speaker 1: because the Kenny Picketts leough I think the under is
Speaker 1: safe here. This is neither of these teams are offensive
Speaker 1: juggernauts at this point in their season. The Carolina Panthers
Speaker 1: also not necessarily an offensive juggernaut. They're one to nine.
Speaker 1: They are three and a half point underdogs heading to Tennessee,
Speaker 1: which feels about right here. Thirty seven is the number
Speaker 1: plus one fifty eight for the Panthers to get a VIC.
Speaker 1: Now you're getting some value here, Sam on the money line.
Speaker 1: When it comes to the Carolina Panthers in this game,
Speaker 1: the question is do you have enough faith of them
Speaker 1: to go and win a road game here in Tennessee?
Speaker 1: Tennessee obviously with Levis, you know, it's been kind of
Speaker 1: spinning its wheels a little bit. What do you make
Speaker 1: out of this contest? Any early value in europeon this one?
Speaker 2: Again, I don't see a ton of early value in
Speaker 2: Frank Reich took back play calling for the Panthers, and
Speaker 2: it once again did not look great. They rushed the
Speaker 2: ball a ton, seemed like they were sort of hiding
Speaker 2: Bryce Young the well Leves shine has worn off a bit.
Speaker 2: I think Tennessee will be able to just run the
Speaker 2: ball with Derrick Henry give him twenty five carries and
Speaker 2: sort of salt away this game. So I like the
Speaker 2: under for that reason. I think again, two of these
Speaker 2: teams with some less than inspiring offenses are not going
Speaker 2: to be able to move the ball a ton and
Speaker 2: just aren't able to score. So I prefer under on
Speaker 2: this one. Don't really have a lean on either side.
Speaker 1: The under certainly seems like the safest Betpat.
Speaker 3: Another total under forty that I'm going to bet the
Speaker 3: under on. Yes, I like that here, not interested in
Speaker 3: either side. I mean, if you forced me to, I
Speaker 3: would probably lay the points and take the Titans at home.
Speaker 4: The Panthers are just so bad. But I'm not going
Speaker 4: to touch either side. Like I don't want to. I
Speaker 4: don't want to have to watch this game.
Speaker 1: Joe, fair enough, I understand. Moving on to the next
Speaker 1: game here, you've got the Atlanta Falcons and New Orleans
Speaker 1: Saints coming off Buys. Another big Indivision game here where
Speaker 1: we're going to see if Atlanta's going to make their
Speaker 1: move into this division. Conversation. They are four and six,
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints are five and five. They are
Speaker 1: in the driver's seat, Pat. They are right now, believe
Speaker 1: it or not. The Atlanta Falcons are one point favorites
Speaker 1: at home. Forty two and a half is the number,
Speaker 1: minus one ten is the consensus. So it's basically just
Speaker 1: a pick up situation. And I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 1: I understand it's the health of Derek Carr that's really
Speaker 1: in question here, But is the early value to jump
Speaker 1: on the Saints here? Regardless?
Speaker 4: It probably is, Joe.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've I've sworn off betting Saints games because
Speaker 3: that team has vexed me so much this season and
Speaker 3: taken so much of my money. But in a couple
Speaker 3: of pools where we have to pick every game, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna pick the Saints. If Derek Carr is
Speaker 3: quarterbacking the Saints, I'll be real tempted to actually bet
Speaker 3: it and get back on Saints games, which you know
Speaker 3: I'll probably regret later. If it's Jameis Winston at quarterback,
Speaker 3: I will have to reassess.
Speaker 1: Okay, uncertainty, Sam when it comes to the quarterback situation
Speaker 1: with the Saints. But does that provide any potential value
Speaker 1: here or are you confident perhaps that Jamis Winston if
Speaker 1: he isn't he playing his game can go out there
Speaker 1: and win a road game in Atlanta.
Speaker 2: I'm not playing this right now, but depending on who
Speaker 2: the quarterback is for New Orleans changes how I would
Speaker 2: play this later in the week. If it is going
Speaker 2: to be Derek Carr, then I'd probably take New Orleans
Speaker 2: with the points, depending on what that ends up at.
Speaker 2: If it's plus one, then I'll take that, But if
Speaker 2: it is Jamis Winston, I probably prefer taking the Saints
Speaker 2: on like some alternate spreads like minus five and a
Speaker 2: half minus six and a half, because his range of
Speaker 2: outcomes is just going to be so much wider than
Speaker 2: Derek cars where if he plays really well, they're i think,
Speaker 2: going to take care of the Falcons easily. But there's
Speaker 2: also a situation in which he turns into thirty interception
Speaker 2: Jamis and just is not even able to get close
Speaker 2: to that plus one. So that's the way I'm playing
Speaker 2: that game later on this week. Wants to get some
Speaker 2: more news about the quarterback situation.
Speaker 1: Okay, New England is going to travel to New York
Speaker 1: to take on the Giants. The Patriots are three and
Speaker 1: a half point favorites. It feels like a lot talk
Speaker 1: about uncertainty when it comes to the quarterback position, is
Speaker 1: it going to be Bailey's appy? Probably, but again we're
Speaker 1: still waiting on official word for that. Thirty four is
Speaker 1: number for this one plus one fifty for the Giants
Speaker 1: on the money line. Sam, call me crazy here, but
Speaker 1: I thought that I'm believing in Tommy DeVito. But this
Speaker 1: line feels a little weird to me. It feels as
Speaker 1: though we're giving the Patriots still a little too much
Speaker 1: credit for the team that they are. Do you think
Speaker 1: going on the road here, this is the correct line?
Speaker 1: What did you have this game at. I'm fascinated because
Speaker 1: it seems like the value is of the Giants money
Speaker 1: line right now.
Speaker 2: I had this as Giants minus one. I mean, okay,
Speaker 2: I don't and that was more of a like, neither
Speaker 2: of these teams should be favored. I'm just giving the
Speaker 2: Giants a little bit of credit for being at home,
Speaker 2: and obviously New England is coming off of the buye
Speaker 2: with their previous game in Germany. But there just does
Speaker 2: not seem like any reason why the Patriots should be
Speaker 2: favored on the road really against anyone, I mean, let
Speaker 2: alone three and a half points, Like it's it's too
Speaker 2: much for me. I told youlast week that there wasn't
Speaker 2: a spread high enough for me to bet on Tommy
Speaker 2: DeVito against Washington. But three and a half at home,
Speaker 2: I think I give me the Giants. Like it sounds gross,
Speaker 2: but yeah, no, I think it's I think it's right now.
Speaker 2: Giants on the money line are giants with the number
Speaker 2: three and a half. Give me the money line. I
Speaker 2: mean again, you're playing into the variants a little bit
Speaker 2: there and hoping that they are able to, you know,
Speaker 2: get some lucky bounces go their way again. Obviously, I
Speaker 2: mentioned earlier in the show that they had six turn
Speaker 2: takeaways against Washington, and I don't expect that to get
Speaker 2: happened against New England. But I think their offense is
Speaker 2: good enough to keep this somewhat close and not completely
Speaker 2: blow it out of the way.
Speaker 1: Pat, two thirds of us are already in on the Giants.
Speaker 1: You want to join us here on our island.
Speaker 4: Oh Joe. So this is game number three that has
Speaker 4: a total of under forty. We're rounding third.
Speaker 3: I'm going to touch third base and bet the under
Speaker 3: here for sure, and I am not going to bet
Speaker 3: either side. I mean, this is interesting, Like Bailey Zappi,
Speaker 3: Are you laying three and a half points to anyone
Speaker 3: with a backup quarterback starting for one of the worst
Speaker 3: editions of the Patriots we've seen in many years? Not
Speaker 3: like not that I think going from Mac Jones to
Speaker 3: Bailey Zappi is anything but a lateral move. Still like I,
Speaker 3: I just like I don't understand it. If I were
Speaker 3: forced to bet this, I would bet the Giants. I
Speaker 3: think I want the points in a game that I
Speaker 3: think is going to be an absolute rock fight. H
Speaker 3: three and a half looks pretty inviting. So man another, yeah,
Speaker 3: I like, I just don't want to bet it because
Speaker 3: I I don't want to put any trust in the.
Speaker 4: No kidding under. Let's go under big time.
Speaker 1: I feel you, brother. Let's get to the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 1: Here at the Denver Broncos. Broncos who played inspired last
Speaker 1: few weeks, but that Cleveland defense continues to just drag
Speaker 1: this team into relevance and they're in the playoff picture
Speaker 1: right now at seven and three. So pat this one
Speaker 1: is minus two and a half. Denver is favorite at home, understandably,
Speaker 1: so is questions about this Cleveland offense moving forward and
Speaker 1: who's playing quarterback this week, we'll find out. Thirty six
Speaker 1: and a half is the consensus line plus one ten
Speaker 1: on the Cleveland Browns to win this game. Cleveland continues
Speaker 1: to find ways to win games. Pat is this the
Speaker 1: next one on their list?
Speaker 4: I don't know, Joel.
Speaker 3: I have no interest in betting either side on this one,
Speaker 3: but we are sliding into home played here with the
Speaker 3: fourth and final under bats of the totals under forty.
Speaker 3: I think I might parlay all these, Joe take.
Speaker 1: I I mean, if we get one of those bonus
Speaker 1: bets there, Yeah, like a ten dollars bonus bet, just
Speaker 1: throw that bad.
Speaker 3: Four legs parlay on those low under because those games
Speaker 3: are gonna be hideous, and I don't think we're gonna
Speaker 3: see much like who breaks this which which one of
Speaker 3: those games is the high scoring affair that ruins the
Speaker 3: four leg parlay. I don't think it's gonna be Browns Broncos.
Speaker 3: I mean Dorian Thompson Robinson averaged three point eight yards
Speaker 3: on his what forty one forty three pass attempts yesterday?
Speaker 3: Like the Broncos defense has been better and the Browns
Speaker 3: defense is great, Like, I don't think the Broncos are
Speaker 3: gonna move the ball on the Brons. This game is
Speaker 3: gonna be hideous. I just again, it's gonna be close.
Speaker 3: I don't want to bet either.
Speaker 1: Side sam any early value on.
Speaker 2: This one for you. I mean, I think this is
Speaker 2: a similar situation to the game we had talked about
Speaker 2: previously of the Giants and Patriots. We've got a low
Speaker 2: total team getting a couple of points here. I think
Speaker 2: teasing both the Browns and the Giants out six points
Speaker 2: is a phenomenal bet in my opinion. Again, You're you're
Speaker 2: getting so many points in these low total games that
Speaker 2: there's a pretty good chance of both of those covering.
Speaker 2: So I think that's the way I want to play this.
Speaker 2: I don't think the Browns' offense is in as dire
Speaker 2: dire streets is that it's made out to seem. They
Speaker 2: signed Joe Flacco to their practice squad, which we'll see
Speaker 2: if if he's able to do something or plays this week.
Speaker 2: I think if he does, then I'd probably take the
Speaker 2: Browns on the money line. But this is, again, I think,
Speaker 2: a perfect Tiaser opportunity.
Speaker 1: All Right, we'll see what opportunities you want in the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Rams game. This one's in Arizona. They are
Speaker 1: one point underdogs at home. Forty four and a half
Speaker 1: is the number you can get minus one ten on
Speaker 1: the Rams right now, minus one oh eight on the
Speaker 1: money line of the Cardinals. Sam. With Cooper Cup likely
Speaker 1: out for this one, it feels like maybe there's an
Speaker 1: opportunity to take advantage of the situation where the Rams
Speaker 1: are coming off victory. Not a great football team, Let's
Speaker 1: not make any bones about that, nor are the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: So is it a pick? Do you have a pick
Speaker 1: that you want to take right now?
Speaker 2: I don't really. I mean, Matthew Stafford got a little
Speaker 2: banged up in this game as well, he did play
Speaker 2: through that injury. I don't know, Like in these sort
Speaker 2: of situations, like it's just pretty high total, I'm probably
Speaker 2: gonna take the team in the Arizona Cardinals that have
Speaker 2: a little bit more variance. I think. I don't see
Speaker 2: the Rams as what I think two and a half
Speaker 2: points better than the Cardinals, which is sort of what
Speaker 2: you make it if you use one and a half
Speaker 2: points for home field advantage. Again, the Cooper Cup potentially
Speaker 2: missing could be huge. Obviously, they played pretty well earlier
Speaker 2: this year without him. But Arizona is I think on
Speaker 2: offense playing pretty decently. Again, Kyler getting more into the
Speaker 2: groove here could help them. I don't remember how all
Speaker 2: of these NFC West matchups work with one coach having
Speaker 2: the edge over other coaches. But obviously Cliff Kingsbury is
Speaker 2: not in town anymore, so that may not matter. But
Speaker 2: I like the Cardinals on the money line here at home?
Speaker 1: All right, your thoughts on this one, pat, the Arizona
Speaker 1: Cardinals hosting the Rams.
Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon's team has been overachieving for most of the season,
Speaker 3: and this is a pretty plucky team with Kyler Murray
Speaker 3: at quarterback. I don't think the Rams should be road
Speaker 3: favorites against any team except maybe for the absolute dregs
Speaker 3: of the league, the Giants the Panthers. I think the
Speaker 3: Cardinals are above that, and so yeah, I like the
Speaker 3: Cardinals here. You know, money line on the Cardinals looks
Speaker 3: pretty good to me. And this total was at forty
Speaker 3: six and a half on Sunday night and it's dropped
Speaker 3: two points. I think I actually like the over this
Speaker 3: bigger number. Maybe the drop was caused by like confirmation
Speaker 3: that Cooper Cup is probably not going to play, but
Speaker 3: I think we knew that already, and you know, maybe
Speaker 3: some doubt about Matthew Stafford's well being, but I think
Speaker 3: we're going to see put some points in this game.
Speaker 3: So I kind of like the over here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the over is actually the way I
Speaker 1: would approach this one too. But I'm kind of leaning
Speaker 1: where you guys are, which is, you know, maybe the
Speaker 1: Cardinals feel like a little bit of a leave it
Speaker 1: or not a safer play here at home. Next one
Speaker 1: is interesting. I kind of want to see how the
Speaker 1: Eagles play tonight in Monday Football before I approach this one. Personally.
Speaker 1: I am in on the Eagles. I've talked about them
Speaker 1: being on the money line this week. I think they
Speaker 1: just need this game more than Kansas City does to
Speaker 1: prove something. They are eight and one, they are three
Speaker 1: and a half point favorites. They're at home against the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills new offensive coordinator. Obviously, they looked pretty good
Speaker 1: against the Jets, but again, they get a lot of
Speaker 1: opportunities pat because the Jets continue to struggle to move
Speaker 1: the football, which means they give it to you and
Speaker 1: say here, you take it, I don't want it. Forty
Speaker 1: seven and a half is the number pretty high. If
Speaker 1: you like the Bills for the upset plus one fifty,
Speaker 1: that's certainly in play. So any early leans when it
Speaker 1: comes to this one, because this is certainly a match
Speaker 1: between two of the better teams in the NFL. Do
Speaker 1: you think there's any value to be had on the
Speaker 1: betting side.
Speaker 4: Pat, Yeah, not just an early lean.
Speaker 3: Joe, I've already bet the Bills on this game, taking
Speaker 3: three and a half, and maybe I should have waited.
Speaker 3: Maybe this goes up if the Eagles really lay it
Speaker 3: to the Chiefs tonight, But then again, it could go
Speaker 3: the other way if things go sideways. So yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: like Joe, like you, I am betting the Eagles on
Speaker 3: the money line against the Chiefs, and that's kind of
Speaker 3: part of this. Maybe this game against the Bills is
Speaker 3: a letdown spot for the Eagles after their big Monday
Speaker 3: night game against the Chiefs, hugely important game. Meanwhile, the
Speaker 3: Bills are fighting for their playoff lives and are about
Speaker 3: to begin a murderous stretch of schedule. Eagles bye week,
Speaker 3: then the Chiefs, then the Cowboys. I think the Bills
Speaker 3: are going to be laser focused for this one, and
Speaker 3: I was really encouraged by what they showed us in
Speaker 3: a must win game against the Jets. They've had some
Speaker 3: trouble with the Jets in recent meetings, and they just
Speaker 3: completely destroyed the New York Jets in Week eleven. So
Speaker 3: I like how sharp the Bills offense look like with
Speaker 3: Tom Joe Brady calling the plays.
Speaker 4: So give me the Bills and the points in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: Sam your thoughts on Bill's Eagles.
Speaker 2: I've gone back and forth about four times in the
Speaker 2: time that Pat was talking. He made some really good points.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, it's incredible what firing an offensive coordinator
Speaker 2: can do to make the best offense in the league
Speaker 2: the best offense in the league. It's pretty incredible there.
Speaker 2: But it's one of those things where I think Josh
Speaker 2: Allen is the slightly better quarterback, so getting three and
Speaker 2: a half points with him and that's not too you know,
Speaker 2: downplay how well Jalen Hurts has played this year. But
Speaker 2: the only thing I think for me not taking Philadelphia
Speaker 2: right now is their game on Monday Night. You know
Speaker 2: what happens if there is an injury, because then it's
Speaker 2: all the Bills. And I think the Eagles defense, especially
Speaker 2: through the air, has been pretty suspect of late. They
Speaker 2: are thirty second in passing success right over the last
Speaker 2: four weeks, and if the Bills do come out throwing,
Speaker 2: then they're gonna, i think, continue to have a ton
Speaker 2: of success. So I'm not talking to myself into it.
Speaker 2: Let's go Bills plus three and a half.
Speaker 1: All right, there you go. Kansas City Chiefs are going
Speaker 1: to go to Las Vegas for this week and they
Speaker 1: are nine and a half point favorites on the road.
Speaker 1: Forty four is the number Las Vegas on the upset
Speaker 1: for the money lines plus three fifty. Now, Sam, when
Speaker 1: it comes to this, obviously, the Raiders have played much
Speaker 1: better football since getting rid of their coach. The problem
Speaker 1: is Ken, a rookie quarterback, keep pace with Patrick Mahome.
Speaker 1: That's the big question. It's one thing to keep pace
Speaker 1: with Zach Wilson, Tommy Devido. I know this one that
Speaker 1: we just had against Miami didn't exactly go quite in
Speaker 1: terms of the blowout people were anticipating. So do you
Speaker 1: take anything out of that? Is the Raiders the right
Speaker 1: play here at home to cover this nine and a
Speaker 1: half or do you think the Kansasity Chiefs just kind
Speaker 1: of introduce them to what it really looks like to
Speaker 1: be the class of the AFC.
Speaker 2: This is another really tough one because my head says
Speaker 2: take the Raiders, my heart says take the Chiefs, and
Speaker 2: I say the Raiders because Antonio Pierce has that team
Speaker 2: running the ball a ton, especially with the know O'Connell,
Speaker 2: and I do think that the way to attack Kansas
Speaker 2: City's defense is on the ground. They have a forty
Speaker 2: five point eight percent success rate allowed on the ground
Speaker 2: over the last four weeks, which is thirtieth overall. I
Speaker 2: do think that if again the Raiders are able to
Speaker 2: slow this game down and keep it under that forty
Speaker 2: four and a half point total, that they'll have a
Speaker 2: good chance to cover this. Max Crosby is playing out
Speaker 2: of his mind. I mean, he is playing incredibly this
Speaker 2: season and is a one man wrecking crew on that defense.
Speaker 2: So I slightly lean towards the Raiders and it feels
Speaker 2: super gross to fade Patrick Mahomes in that situation, But
Speaker 2: especially for the Raiders at home with the Chiefs coming
Speaker 2: off of a Monday night football game, I think the
Speaker 2: Raiders could keep it closer than people expect.
Speaker 1: Yeah see, I'm kind of where you are Sam, that's
Speaker 1: my early lean right now on this one. I actually
Speaker 1: would like to, you know, if Kansas City does take
Speaker 1: care of the Eagles, perhaps this one goes to double
Speaker 1: digits and then maybe we're talking if it's eleven or twelve,
Speaker 1: maybe then you really want to jump in on the
Speaker 1: Raiders and maybe wait this one out. I'm of that mind.
Speaker 1: I want to wait and see first. Pat, what are
Speaker 1: your thoughts?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this was like right before I got in
Speaker 3: the show, Joe, it was ten on DraftKings. So Chiefs
Speaker 3: savored by ten. Look, and the Raiders are two and
Speaker 3: one straight up in three to zero against the spread.
Speaker 3: Since Antonio Pierce took over as head coach, I cannot
Speaker 3: take the Raiders in this game when the quarterback matchup
Speaker 3: as Patrick Mahomes against Adelaide Stevenson High School graduate Aidan O'Connell.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I do not want to
Speaker 3: bet the Chiefs in a potential letdown spot coming off
Speaker 3: that big game against the Eagles on a short week
Speaker 3: of rest, against a team that's playing its best football
Speaker 3: this season. So I'm just I'm staying away from this game.
Speaker 1: All right, before we get onto the night games. I
Speaker 1: somehow for the first time ever missed a game here
Speaker 1: on this show. So let's circle back real quick. It's
Speaker 1: not the most exciting game, but it is a game.
Speaker 1: Tipa Bay Buccaneers Indianapolis Colts minus one and a half
Speaker 1: here on the Colt side at home. Forty two and
Speaker 1: a half is the number plus one ten on the
Speaker 1: money line for the Bucks.
Speaker 2: Pat.
Speaker 1: That's where I want to go. I'm want to go
Speaker 1: right to the Bucks. They've been competitive. They had a
Speaker 1: lot of shots against the forty nine ers and they
Speaker 1: just kept falling short and four. But the foury nine
Speaker 1: ers defense played very well, so I want to give
Speaker 1: them some credit to I like the Bucks here in
Speaker 1: this game on the road plus one ten. What are
Speaker 1: your thoughts?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Joe on Sunday Night, I always try
Speaker 3: to guess what the lines and totals are going to
Speaker 3: be for these games before I actually look at what
Speaker 3: they are, and I guessed correctly. For Bucks Colts, I
Speaker 3: guess that means there's no value whatsoever. I yeah, I
Speaker 3: just like, I don't want to bet either side on
Speaker 3: this one. The total looks spot on also, so I'm walking.
Speaker 1: On any early value on this one.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, give me the Colts. The only reason I
Speaker 2: pointed out that you skip this one is because it's
Speaker 2: one of my favorite of the week. I just think
Speaker 2: there's such a massive coaching advantage for Shane Stikeen and
Speaker 2: the Colts over Todd Bowles and the Bucks. Like especially
Speaker 2: coming off of the buye Jonathan Taylor is starting to
Speaker 2: get into a groove. They're giving him a bigger workload.
Speaker 2: I love the Colts in this spot. I think again
Speaker 2: taking some alternate spreads with them as well, because you're
Speaker 2: leaning a bit into some variance with Gardner Minshew, who
Speaker 2: has been a little bit all over the place. But
Speaker 2: I like the over in this game as well. The
Speaker 2: Colts have played exceptionally fast. They are leaving ten to
Speaker 2: twelve seconds on the playclock for every play. Teams that
Speaker 2: are facing the Colts too, are playing super up tempo
Speaker 2: as well, so I think both of these offenses are
Speaker 2: good enough to continue to move the ball. As long
Speaker 2: as there aren't some deep red zone turnovers by either team,
Speaker 2: then this total is going to go well above the
Speaker 2: forty two and a half points.
Speaker 1: Sunday Night football, the Los Angeles Chargers will be home
Speaker 1: against the Ravens, and I hope the Ravens take out
Speaker 1: my frustrations on the Chargers. For me, I'm choosing a
Speaker 1: champion game of throne style and my champion is Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley was not happy after this press conference, nor
Speaker 1: should he be. You can tell things are getting a
Speaker 1: little tight, little frustrating there, and I'm going to advantage
Speaker 1: of it. Look, Baltimore Ravens are only four point favorites
Speaker 1: here in this game. I think it should be more.
Speaker 1: I just do forty six and a half is the
Speaker 1: number plus one sixty five on the money line for
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers. Sam, I want the Baltimore Ravens
Speaker 1: of this game. I want to lock this one in
Speaker 1: now because I think more people, excuse me, more time
Speaker 1: people have to think about this one, the more they're
Speaker 1: going to realize that that's a value here on Baltimore.
Speaker 1: But what are your thoughts?
Speaker 2: I agree, losing Mark Andrews in the Thursday night game
Speaker 2: last season really sucks, but they are going to come
Speaker 2: off some extended time having played on Thursday nights, so
Speaker 2: I think it gives them some time to regroup to
Speaker 2: get Isaiah likely in the other tight ends a little
Speaker 2: bit more chemistry as well. And this Charger's defense is
Speaker 2: just so so bad. I mean, they allowed Jordan Love
Speaker 2: to have his first three hundred yard passing game and
Speaker 2: it just it just doesn't look better in any week.
Speaker 2: I mean that did Ravens have a coaching advantage here too.
Speaker 2: Brandon Staley has not sort of been the the plus
Speaker 2: ev guy that we have seen in the past, and
Speaker 2: the Ravens defense is still incredible, I think, So give
Speaker 2: me the Ravens with the points here.
Speaker 1: Pat your thoughts, Ravens or Chargers.
Speaker 4: Let's make it unanimous.
Speaker 3: I do like the Ravens too, and some of the
Speaker 3: ratings systems have the Ravens is about eight points better
Speaker 3: on a neutral field, and let's face it, Chargers home
Speaker 3: games basically are a neutral field, So I think there's
Speaker 3: value on the Ravens here, all right.
Speaker 1: Next one's not on a neutral field at all. This
Speaker 1: one's in Minnesota. The last one Monday night football, So
Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs unfortunately came up a little bit short this
Speaker 1: past Sunday night, So Monday maybe redemption story. They are
Speaker 1: three and a half point favorites against the Bears. That
Speaker 1: feels about right. Forty five is the number that feels
Speaker 1: about right plus one fifty four of the Bears and
Speaker 1: the upset. Now, the Bears had that game right there
Speaker 1: towards the end with the Detroit Lions, they let it
Speaker 1: slip through their fingers. So do you think that the
Speaker 1: Bears having to go on the road two weeks in
Speaker 1: a row, this time to Minnesota, another tough in division contest,
Speaker 1: do you think they fall short again? Pat?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I sort of like the Bears here, Joe, I
Speaker 3: don't know if they win. Probability ever crested ninety percent
Speaker 3: in that game against the Lions. I'm guessing it probably
Speaker 3: did at one point because it, like the Lions found
Speaker 3: out just how dangerous this Bears team can be. And
Speaker 3: the Bears are defensive overachievers. They have turned into one
Speaker 3: of the best run defenses in the league, which is
Speaker 3: someone unexpected. And like, I don't think they're terrible in
Speaker 3: the back end either, Like they lack a little bit
Speaker 3: of a pass rush of the Montes. Sweat has helped
Speaker 3: in that regard, and now with Justin Fields back, they
Speaker 3: are explosive on offense too. Like not a great running game,
Speaker 3: but Fields can run and he can make it happen
Speaker 3: like we saw it on that play where he threw
Speaker 3: the long touch on pass to DJ Moore where he
Speaker 3: like pass rush was coming, he eluded it and bought
Speaker 3: himself some time and DJ Moore got open deep. So
Speaker 3: I like the Bears in the points here against the Vikings,
Speaker 3: who you know, might still be stinging a little bit
Speaker 3: from one that got away from them against the Broncos.
Speaker 1: Sam, I think that forty five is very much in
Speaker 1: play on the overside of this game too, because of
Speaker 1: the playmaking ability of fields. And you know, we've seen
Speaker 1: Dobbs just pretty good work here early on, and only
Speaker 1: more time he has this offense, the better it is.
Speaker 1: Ty Chandler getting his work too as well in that backfield.
Speaker 1: It was not just a Madison backfield. But what are
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the Bears and Vikings on Monday Night?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think obviously the loss for Minnesota could make
Speaker 2: it so that Justin Jefferson returns in this game as well.
Speaker 2: Had they won, I think they might have just waited
Speaker 2: another week going into the buy to just let him rest.
Speaker 2: Even more so, if they get him back, I think
Speaker 2: Joshua Dobbs will be able to take this one to home.
Speaker 2: I mean the Bears are just not this sounds weird,
Speaker 2: but like they're not a winning team, like Matt Eberflus
Speaker 2: is just not coaching a great team. And they're playmakers,
Speaker 2: I think are sort of making up for his play
Speaker 2: calling deficiencies on the field. So I three and a
Speaker 2: half points, though I think is a little bit too much.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I made it prior to looking at
Speaker 2: the line, so the over could be in play. But
Speaker 2: I would love if Justin Jefferson was in before making
Speaker 2: that play.
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