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Speaker 1: ones here. The Green Bay Packers coming off a big victory.

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Speaker 1: there because I am angry. I promised that I would

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Speaker 1: lose my mind here on the show about the Chargers

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Speaker 1: last week, boys, I said, I'm confident in the Chargers,

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Speaker 1: and I felt dirty and wrong, and I was wrong.

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Speaker 1: It sucked. I'm mad. I'm mad at Brandon Staley, I'm

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Speaker 1: mad at the Chargers. I'm mad at the city of

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles, the whole thing. It was terrible, no good.

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Speaker 1: But the Green Bay Packers were good enough. They are

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Speaker 1: going to be underdogs though when they go to Detroit.

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Speaker 1: Troit's now eight and two after another big victory against

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Speaker 1: the Bears at home. This one's in Detroit. Seven and

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Speaker 1: a half is the number here on the Detroit side.

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Speaker 1: Forty six and a half over is the consensus line

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Speaker 1: you're getting on betting pros, and plus two eighty five

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Speaker 1: for the upset. Sam let's start with you on this

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Speaker 1: about the Packers more this morning on our FP show.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about the Packers. What

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Speaker 1: you saw. Obviously, Aaron Jones highly unlikely to play in

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Speaker 1: this game. I think we can all agree on that.

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Speaker 1: So what does this mean here for this number of

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Speaker 1: the seven and a half? And do you put any

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Speaker 1: sort of stock in what Andrew Erickson's been saying for

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Speaker 1: a few weeks now, which is ford Field might as

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I understand that reference, but as

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Speaker 2: far as.

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Speaker 1: The baseball reference, it means a lot of scoring. There

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Speaker 1: sport here where Sammy is not is up to speed.

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Speaker 2: Right. This is human, but it was pretty far out

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Speaker 2: But in any case, the Aaron Jones interest injury is interesting.

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Speaker 2: I think the way that Green Bay wins this game

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Speaker 2: think that's honestly good because aj Dillon might be the

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Speaker 2: Their third string running back also got injured on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: But I do think that Detroit, especially after the lesson

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm on the Detroit lean as well. Pat, how

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Speaker 3: If I was going to bet Detroit, and I'm kind

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Speaker 4: Man, I do not like seven and a half.

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Speaker 3: So you know, it's funny if you look at Massy

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Speaker 3: Peabody rankings, which.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Massy Peabody had the Alliance as being

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Speaker 3: not quite three points better than the Packers on a

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Speaker 3: seems like based on that there might be value on

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Speaker 3: the Packers. I don't really buy it. I think what

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Speaker 3: I'm going to do is play the over Joe. You

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Speaker 3: made the cores field reference it might be apt here,

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Speaker 3: and especially the way this game sets up, the Packers

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Speaker 3: are going to have to lean on their passing game.

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Speaker 3: With no Aaron Jones a forty five and a half,

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Speaker 3: it seems kind of a high total for the Packers,

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Speaker 3: but they're gonna be forced to throw, and we know

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Speaker 3: they don't defend the run well and the Lions might

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Speaker 3: be able to just run it down their throat. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: over is my leaning here, not real interest in either side.

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Speaker 1: And then numbers already jumping up to forty six and

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Speaker 1: a half and some spots. Still okay with that one.

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Speaker 3: Just yeah, I think so I'd played up to forty

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Speaker 3: all right, six and a half forty seven.

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Speaker 1: To the next one here, the Dallas Cowboys seven and

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Speaker 1: three are hosting the Washington Commanders who lost to the Giants.

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Speaker 1: talk about instead. The numbers, of course is double digits

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Speaker 1: minus eleven here for the Dallas Cowboys at home minus

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Speaker 1: one ten. The consensus line of betting pros is forty

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Speaker 1: eight and a half plus four to twenty five for

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Speaker 1: the Washington upset. I know we always get Sam Howell

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Speaker 4: The Ladder Joe.

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Speaker 3: I think the Cowboys have done really well against lesser competition.

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Speaker 3: They are four and one against the spread against teams

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Speaker 3: and that doesn't even even include their forty to nothing

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm I'm gonna bet the Cowboys here to

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Speaker 3: you know, put Washington away. I mean, Washington showed their

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Speaker 3: Week eleven. And it seems like this total is pretty

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Speaker 3: going to do their part to push this game over

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Speaker 3: like the total jump from forty seven and a half

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Speaker 3: Monday morning, Like I don't understand that. So like I

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Speaker 3: like the under a lot, I like getting that extra point. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: unless Dallas puts up a forty burger on the Commanders,

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Speaker 3: I don't see this one going over.

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Speaker 1: That's the question, like if do they put up thirty five?

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Speaker 1: If they put up thirty five, Sam to me, I

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Speaker 1: think the forty eight and a half as well within range.

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Speaker 1: I think the Washington do their part in that. But

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Speaker 1: is there a certain aspect of this game that has

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Speaker 1: you interested in the early value?

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Speaker 2: Definitely taking Dallas with the points. They have six wins

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Speaker 2: this year by at least twenty points, which is just absurd.

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Speaker 2: Washington had did have six turnovers against the Giants this

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Speaker 2: past week, which is why I am now knocked out

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Speaker 2: of the survivor league that I was in. The Washington

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Speaker 2: rushing defense has played pretty decent lately. They haven't allowed

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Speaker 2: problem is Dallas is throwing a ton. They have a

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Speaker 2: sixty four point two percent neutral script pass right over

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Speaker 2: the last four weeks. Dak is just dealing. He is

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Speaker 2: going to carve up this Washington secondary more than the

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Speaker 2: turkey is going to be carved up in the kitchen.

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Speaker 1: There you go, all right, let's go to the night

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Speaker 1: game here San Francisco looking great. They're to go on

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Speaker 1: the road at seven and three. There seven point favorites

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Speaker 1: there in Seattle. Now Gino Smith unlikely to play probably

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Speaker 1: two and a half is the number at minus one

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Speaker 1: ten the consensus line of VP for the Seattle upset,

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Speaker 1: it's plus two to fifty. Sam, do we see the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers just continue to roll because it feels

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Speaker 1: like coming out of that buy this is a rejuvenated

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Speaker 1: San Francisco team and that pass rush now with Bosa

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Speaker 1: not only down Gino but also probably down Kenneth Walker

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Speaker 1: too for the foreseeable future.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this one's got a lot of injury things to

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Speaker 2: keep an eye on over the next couple of days.

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Speaker 2: I really hope we get Gino in this game. Otherwise

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Speaker 2: that trip to fan is probably going to hit a

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Speaker 2: little harder than normal. Early in the.

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Speaker 1: Evening, Sammy's got jokes today, Pat I means he is ready,

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Speaker 1: he has done, he is ready for a break.

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Speaker 2: Well when I mean this is the week to get

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Speaker 2: the Thanksgiving puns in, so you got to take advantage.

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Speaker 2: But I think doing your part, I think Gino might

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Speaker 2: actually play in this game, given that he came back

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Speaker 2: in the last drive of the game against Los Angeles

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Speaker 2: this past week. That said, I love San Francisco minus

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Speaker 2: six and a half here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen the number move to seven here in

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Speaker 1: a lot of spots already. I'm still comfortable. I think

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Speaker 1: they win this game by double digits. Pat like, this one,

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Speaker 1: to me is one of the best early lines of

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Speaker 1: the week. I want to jump on it right now

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Speaker 1: because whether Gino plays or not, he's not one hundred percent,

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Speaker 1: So I just believe in San Francisco right now. What

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Speaker 1: are your thoughts?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and these teams played three times last season, Joe

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Speaker 3: and the forty nine Ers won all three in the

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Speaker 3: average margin victory was fifteen points six points, so I

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Speaker 3: could not possibly take Seattle here. And I kind of

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Speaker 3: like the over based on the hope largely that Gino

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Speaker 3: does play. I mean, I think both of these teams

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Speaker 3: on defense. The forty nine Ers are first in offensive

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Speaker 3: DVA the Seahawks eleventh, and in defensive DVA the forty

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Speaker 3: we're gonna get points in this game if Gino plays,

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Speaker 3: I totally get it, Joe. The last time we wrote

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Dolphins just feels like a little bit

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Speaker 3: I just can't shake that feeling, and like this game

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Speaker 4: It's at now.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting POV. Yeah, like using POV, Sam, what do

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Speaker 1: All right, fair enough, let's go to the next one here,

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Speaker 1: this one's practically a pick him on betting pros. Right now.

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Speaker 1: You've got Jacksonville's one point favorites forty seven is the number,

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Speaker 2: Here for them, this is I mean, this is going

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Speaker 4: This.

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Speaker 2: If the Texans win, they have the front seat in

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Speaker 2: three months ago, people would have been laughing at you.

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Speaker 2: But c J. Straud this past week did show that

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Speaker 2: I don't have a lean on this one. I think Texas,

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Speaker 2: You're buying them sort of with a little bit of

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Speaker 2: I think I might lean towards the under on this

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Speaker 1: All right, Pat, your thoughts, This should be in theory

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Speaker 1: as Sam laid it out, you know, if Houston handles

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Fun matchup for sure, Joe.

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Speaker 3: The Jaguars are one of my favorite bets of the week,

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Speaker 4: And I get it.

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Speaker 3: I mean they are fun as can be, but I

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Speaker 3: getting maybe two points a week that they probably shouldn't

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Speaker 3: I think the Jags are going to win straight up.

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Speaker 3: They're the better team, and yeah, I think there's a

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Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough here, let's go to the next one.

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Speaker 1: Here on the slate, we've got the Pittsburgh Steelers somehow

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Speaker 1: Bengals this one right now, the Pittsburgh Steelers are favored

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Speaker 1: by one. That's where the spread's at minus one ten.

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Speaker 1: You've also got thirty four and a half as the

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Speaker 1: Without Joe Burrow, I know, no one really holding their

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Speaker 1: under on this one, thirty four and a half. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Yes, thank you Joe for validating that opinion. Like a

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Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I'll take the under.

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Speaker 4: I can see it.

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Speaker 3: And this one opened with the Bengals favored by one point,

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Speaker 3: which was just astonishing. As miserable as the Kenny Pickett

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Speaker 4: So I kind of like the Steelers here, and I

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Speaker 1: Okay, Sam, what do you like in this contest?

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Speaker 2: I feel like Pittsburgh is the move here just given

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Speaker 2: Benjamin Solak from The Ringer posted a clip of all

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Speaker 2: video football. You know, there might be this whole Jake Browning,

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Speaker 2: I'm staying away. I'd rather not look at their enough.

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Speaker 1: I still think that that under is I mean, especially

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Speaker 1: also not necessarily an offensive juggernaut. They're one to nine.

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Speaker 1: They are three and a half point underdogs heading to Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: which feels about right here. Thirty seven is the number

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Speaker 1: Now you're getting some value here, Sam on the money line.

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Speaker 1: When it comes to the Carolina Panthers in this game,

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Speaker 2: Again, I don't see a ton of early value in

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Speaker 2: it once again did not look great. They rushed the

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Speaker 2: I think Tennessee will be able to just run the

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Speaker 2: sort of salt away this game. So I like the

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Speaker 2: under for that reason. I think again, two of these

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Speaker 1: The under certainly seems like the safest Betpat.

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Speaker 3: Another total under forty that I'm going to bet the

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Speaker 4: The Panthers are just so bad. But I'm not going

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Speaker 1: Joe, fair enough, I understand. Moving on to the next

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Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints are five and five. They are

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Speaker 1: it or not. The Atlanta Falcons are one point favorites

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Speaker 1: I understand it's the health of Derek Carr that's really

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00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,640
Speaker 1: in question here, But is the early value to jump

436
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 1: on the Saints here? Regardless?

437
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:03,400
Speaker 4: It probably is, Joe.

438
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 3: I mean, I've I've sworn off betting Saints games because

439
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,080
Speaker 3: that team has vexed me so much this season and

440
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 3: taken so much of my money. But in a couple

441
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,400
Speaker 3: of pools where we have to pick every game, I'm

442
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna pick the Saints. If Derek Carr is

443
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,159
Speaker 3: quarterbacking the Saints, I'll be real tempted to actually bet

444
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 3: it and get back on Saints games, which you know

445
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 3: I'll probably regret later. If it's Jameis Winston at quarterback,

446
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 3: I will have to reassess.

447
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:35,479
Speaker 1: Okay, uncertainty, Sam when it comes to the quarterback situation

448
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 1: with the Saints. But does that provide any potential value

449
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 1: here or are you confident perhaps that Jamis Winston if

450
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,680
Speaker 1: he isn't he playing his game can go out there

451
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 1: and win a road game in Atlanta.

452
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 2: I'm not playing this right now, but depending on who

453
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 2: the quarterback is for New Orleans changes how I would

454
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 2: play this later in the week. If it is going

455
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 2: to be Derek Carr, then I'd probably take New Orleans

456
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,199
Speaker 2: with the points, depending on what that ends up at.

457
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 2: If it's plus one, then I'll take that, But if

458
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 2: it is Jamis Winston, I probably prefer taking the Saints

459
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 2: on like some alternate spreads like minus five and a

460
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 2: half minus six and a half, because his range of

461
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 2: outcomes is just going to be so much wider than

462
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 2: Derek cars where if he plays really well, they're i think,

463
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 2: going to take care of the Falcons easily. But there's

464
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 2: also a situation in which he turns into thirty interception

465
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,679
Speaker 2: Jamis and just is not even able to get close

466
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 2: to that plus one. So that's the way I'm playing

467
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 2: that game later on this week. Wants to get some

468
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 2: more news about the quarterback situation.

469
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Speaker 1: Okay, New England is going to travel to New York

470
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Speaker 1: to take on the Giants. The Patriots are three and

471
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 1: a half point favorites. It feels like a lot talk

472
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Speaker 1: about uncertainty when it comes to the quarterback position, is

473
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: it going to be Bailey's appy? Probably, but again we're

474
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 1: still waiting on official word for that. Thirty four is

475
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 1: number for this one plus one fifty for the Giants

476
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: on the money line. Sam, call me crazy here, but

477
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 1: I thought that I'm believing in Tommy DeVito. But this

478
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: line feels a little weird to me. It feels as

479
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: though we're giving the Patriots still a little too much

480
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: credit for the team that they are. Do you think

481
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: going on the road here, this is the correct line?

482
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: What did you have this game at. I'm fascinated because

483
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: it seems like the value is of the Giants money

484
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 1: line right now.

485
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 2: I had this as Giants minus one. I mean, okay,

486
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 2: I don't and that was more of a like, neither

487
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 2: of these teams should be favored. I'm just giving the

488
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 2: Giants a little bit of credit for being at home,

489
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 2: and obviously New England is coming off of the buye

490
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 2: with their previous game in Germany. But there just does

491
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 2: not seem like any reason why the Patriots should be

492
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 2: favored on the road really against anyone, I mean, let

493
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 2: alone three and a half points, Like it's it's too

494
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 2: much for me. I told youlast week that there wasn't

495
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 2: a spread high enough for me to bet on Tommy

496
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 2: DeVito against Washington. But three and a half at home,

497
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 2: I think I give me the Giants. Like it sounds gross,

498
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 2: but yeah, no, I think it's I think it's right now.

499
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 2: Giants on the money line are giants with the number

500
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 2: three and a half. Give me the money line. I

501
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 2: mean again, you're playing into the variants a little bit

502
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 2: there and hoping that they are able to, you know,

503
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 2: get some lucky bounces go their way again. Obviously, I

504
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 2: mentioned earlier in the show that they had six turn

505
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 2: takeaways against Washington, and I don't expect that to get

506
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 2: happened against New England. But I think their offense is

507
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 2: good enough to keep this somewhat close and not completely

508
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:49,400
Speaker 2: blow it out of the way.

509
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: Pat, two thirds of us are already in on the Giants.

510
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: You want to join us here on our island.

511
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 4: Oh Joe. So this is game number three that has

512
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 4: a total of under forty. We're rounding third.

513
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 3: I'm going to touch third base and bet the under

514
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 3: here for sure, and I am not going to bet

515
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 3: either side. I mean, this is interesting, Like Bailey Zappi,

516
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 3: Are you laying three and a half points to anyone

517
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 3: with a backup quarterback starting for one of the worst

518
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 3: editions of the Patriots we've seen in many years? Not

519
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 3: like not that I think going from Mac Jones to

520
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 3: Bailey Zappi is anything but a lateral move. Still like I,

521
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 3: I just like I don't understand it. If I were

522
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 3: forced to bet this, I would bet the Giants. I

523
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 3: think I want the points in a game that I

524
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 3: think is going to be an absolute rock fight. H

525
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 3: three and a half looks pretty inviting. So man another, yeah,

526
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 3: I like, I just don't want to bet it because

527
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 3: I I don't want to put any trust in the.

528
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 4: No kidding under. Let's go under big time.

529
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: I feel you, brother. Let's get to the Cleveland Browns.

530
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: Here at the Denver Broncos. Broncos who played inspired last

531
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: few weeks, but that Cleveland defense continues to just drag

532
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: this team into relevance and they're in the playoff picture

533
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: right now at seven and three. So pat this one

534
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: is minus two and a half. Denver is favorite at home, understandably,

535
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: so is questions about this Cleveland offense moving forward and

536
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: who's playing quarterback this week, we'll find out. Thirty six

537
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: and a half is the consensus line plus one ten

538
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 1: on the Cleveland Browns to win this game. Cleveland continues

539
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: to find ways to win games. Pat is this the

540
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: next one on their list?

541
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 4: I don't know, Joel.

542
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 3: I have no interest in betting either side on this one,

543
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 3: but we are sliding into home played here with the

544
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 3: fourth and final under bats of the totals under forty.

545
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 3: I think I might parlay all these, Joe take.

546
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 1: I I mean, if we get one of those bonus

547
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: bets there, Yeah, like a ten dollars bonus bet, just

548
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: throw that bad.

549
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 3: Four legs parlay on those low under because those games

550
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 3: are gonna be hideous, and I don't think we're gonna

551
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 3: see much like who breaks this which which one of

552
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 3: those games is the high scoring affair that ruins the

553
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 3: four leg parlay. I don't think it's gonna be Browns Broncos.

554
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 3: I mean Dorian Thompson Robinson averaged three point eight yards

555
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 3: on his what forty one forty three pass attempts yesterday?

556
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 3: Like the Broncos defense has been better and the Browns

557
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 3: defense is great, Like, I don't think the Broncos are

558
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 3: gonna move the ball on the Brons. This game is

559
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 3: gonna be hideous. I just again, it's gonna be close.

560
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 3: I don't want to bet either.

561
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 1: Side sam any early value on.

562
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 2: This one for you. I mean, I think this is

563
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 2: a similar situation to the game we had talked about

564
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 2: previously of the Giants and Patriots. We've got a low

565
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 2: total team getting a couple of points here. I think

566
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: teasing both the Browns and the Giants out six points

567
00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 2: is a phenomenal bet in my opinion. Again, You're you're

568
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 2: getting so many points in these low total games that

569
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 2: there's a pretty good chance of both of those covering.

570
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 2: So I think that's the way I want to play this.

571
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 2: I don't think the Browns' offense is in as dire

572
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 2: dire streets is that it's made out to seem. They

573
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: signed Joe Flacco to their practice squad, which we'll see

574
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 2: if if he's able to do something or plays this week.

575
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 2: I think if he does, then I'd probably take the

576
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 2: Browns on the money line. But this is, again, I think,

577
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 2: a perfect Tiaser opportunity.

578
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: All Right, we'll see what opportunities you want in the

579
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Rams game. This one's in Arizona. They are

580
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: one point underdogs at home. Forty four and a half

581
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: is the number you can get minus one ten on

582
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: the Rams right now, minus one oh eight on the

583
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: money line of the Cardinals. Sam. With Cooper Cup likely

584
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: out for this one, it feels like maybe there's an

585
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: opportunity to take advantage of the situation where the Rams

586
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: are coming off victory. Not a great football team, Let's

587
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: not make any bones about that, nor are the Cardinals.

588
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: So is it a pick? Do you have a pick

589
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: that you want to take right now?

590
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: I don't really. I mean, Matthew Stafford got a little

591
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: banged up in this game as well, he did play

592
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: through that injury. I don't know, Like in these sort

593
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: of situations, like it's just pretty high total, I'm probably

594
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: gonna take the team in the Arizona Cardinals that have

595
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 2: a little bit more variance. I think. I don't see

596
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 2: the Rams as what I think two and a half

597
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 2: points better than the Cardinals, which is sort of what

598
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 2: you make it if you use one and a half

599
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 2: points for home field advantage. Again, the Cooper Cup potentially

600
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 2: missing could be huge. Obviously, they played pretty well earlier

601
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: this year without him. But Arizona is I think on

602
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 2: offense playing pretty decently. Again, Kyler getting more into the

603
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: groove here could help them. I don't remember how all

604
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: of these NFC West matchups work with one coach having

605
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 2: the edge over other coaches. But obviously Cliff Kingsbury is

606
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: not in town anymore, so that may not matter. But

607
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 2: I like the Cardinals on the money line here at home?

608
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: All right, your thoughts on this one, pat, the Arizona

609
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: Cardinals hosting the Rams.

610
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon's team has been overachieving for most of the season,

611
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 3: and this is a pretty plucky team with Kyler Murray

612
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 3: at quarterback. I don't think the Rams should be road

613
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 3: favorites against any team except maybe for the absolute dregs

614
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 3: of the league, the Giants the Panthers. I think the

615
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 3: Cardinals are above that, and so yeah, I like the

616
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 3: Cardinals here. You know, money line on the Cardinals looks

617
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 3: pretty good to me. And this total was at forty

618
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 3: six and a half on Sunday night and it's dropped

619
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 3: two points. I think I actually like the over this

620
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 3: bigger number. Maybe the drop was caused by like confirmation

621
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 3: that Cooper Cup is probably not going to play, but

622
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 3: I think we knew that already, and you know, maybe

623
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 3: some doubt about Matthew Stafford's well being, but I think

624
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 3: we're going to see put some points in this game.

625
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 3: So I kind of like the over here.

626
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the over is actually the way I

627
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: would approach this one too. But I'm kind of leaning

628
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: where you guys are, which is, you know, maybe the

629
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: Cardinals feel like a little bit of a leave it

630
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: or not a safer play here at home. Next one

631
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: is interesting. I kind of want to see how the

632
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: Eagles play tonight in Monday Football before I approach this one. Personally.

633
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: I am in on the Eagles. I've talked about them

634
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: being on the money line this week. I think they

635
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: just need this game more than Kansas City does to

636
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: prove something. They are eight and one, they are three

637
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: and a half point favorites. They're at home against the

638
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills new offensive coordinator. Obviously, they looked pretty good

639
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: against the Jets, but again, they get a lot of

640
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 1: opportunities pat because the Jets continue to struggle to move

641
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: the football, which means they give it to you and

642
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: say here, you take it, I don't want it. Forty

643
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: seven and a half is the number pretty high. If

644
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: you like the Bills for the upset plus one fifty,

645
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: that's certainly in play. So any early leans when it

646
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: comes to this one, because this is certainly a match

647
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: between two of the better teams in the NFL. Do

648
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: you think there's any value to be had on the

649
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: betting side.

650
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 4: Pat, Yeah, not just an early lean.

651
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 3: Joe, I've already bet the Bills on this game, taking

652
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: three and a half, and maybe I should have waited.

653
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 3: Maybe this goes up if the Eagles really lay it

654
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 3: to the Chiefs tonight, But then again, it could go

655
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 3: the other way if things go sideways. So yeah, I mean,

656
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 3: like Joe, like you, I am betting the Eagles on

657
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 3: the money line against the Chiefs, and that's kind of

658
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 3: part of this. Maybe this game against the Bills is

659
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 3: a letdown spot for the Eagles after their big Monday

660
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 3: night game against the Chiefs, hugely important game. Meanwhile, the

661
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 3: Bills are fighting for their playoff lives and are about

662
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 3: to begin a murderous stretch of schedule. Eagles bye week,

663
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 3: then the Chiefs, then the Cowboys. I think the Bills

664
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 3: are going to be laser focused for this one, and

665
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 3: I was really encouraged by what they showed us in

666
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 3: a must win game against the Jets. They've had some

667
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 3: trouble with the Jets in recent meetings, and they just

668
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 3: completely destroyed the New York Jets in Week eleven. So

669
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 3: I like how sharp the Bills offense look like with

670
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 3: Tom Joe Brady calling the plays.

671
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 4: So give me the Bills and the points in Philadelphia.

672
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: Sam your thoughts on Bill's Eagles.

673
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 2: I've gone back and forth about four times in the

674
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: time that Pat was talking. He made some really good points.

675
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: I mean, like, it's incredible what firing an offensive coordinator

676
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: can do to make the best offense in the league

677
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: the best offense in the league. It's pretty incredible there.

678
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 2: But it's one of those things where I think Josh

679
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: Allen is the slightly better quarterback, so getting three and

680
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 2: a half points with him and that's not too you know,

681
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 2: downplay how well Jalen Hurts has played this year. But

682
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 2: the only thing I think for me not taking Philadelphia

683
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 2: right now is their game on Monday Night. You know

684
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 2: what happens if there is an injury, because then it's

685
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 2: all the Bills. And I think the Eagles defense, especially

686
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 2: through the air, has been pretty suspect of late. They

687
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 2: are thirty second in passing success right over the last

688
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 2: four weeks, and if the Bills do come out throwing,

689
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 2: then they're gonna, i think, continue to have a ton

690
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 2: of success. So I'm not talking to myself into it.

691
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: Let's go Bills plus three and a half.

692
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,919
Speaker 1: All right, there you go. Kansas City Chiefs are going

693
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: to go to Las Vegas for this week and they

694
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 1: are nine and a half point favorites on the road.

695
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: Forty four is the number Las Vegas on the upset

696
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: for the money lines plus three fifty. Now, Sam, when

697
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: it comes to this, obviously, the Raiders have played much

698
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: better football since getting rid of their coach. The problem

699
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: is Ken, a rookie quarterback, keep pace with Patrick Mahome.

700
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: That's the big question. It's one thing to keep pace

701
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: with Zach Wilson, Tommy Devido. I know this one that

702
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: we just had against Miami didn't exactly go quite in

703
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: terms of the blowout people were anticipating. So do you

704
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: take anything out of that? Is the Raiders the right

705
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: play here at home to cover this nine and a

706
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: half or do you think the Kansasity Chiefs just kind

707
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: of introduce them to what it really looks like to

708
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 1: be the class of the AFC.

709
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 2: This is another really tough one because my head says

710
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 2: take the Raiders, my heart says take the Chiefs, and

711
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: I say the Raiders because Antonio Pierce has that team

712
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: running the ball a ton, especially with the know O'Connell,

713
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 2: and I do think that the way to attack Kansas

714
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 2: City's defense is on the ground. They have a forty

715
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 2: five point eight percent success rate allowed on the ground

716
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 2: over the last four weeks, which is thirtieth overall. I

717
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 2: do think that if again the Raiders are able to

718
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 2: slow this game down and keep it under that forty

719
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 2: four and a half point total, that they'll have a

720
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: good chance to cover this. Max Crosby is playing out

721
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 2: of his mind. I mean, he is playing incredibly this

722
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: season and is a one man wrecking crew on that defense.

723
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 2: So I slightly lean towards the Raiders and it feels

724
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 2: super gross to fade Patrick Mahomes in that situation, But

725
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: especially for the Raiders at home with the Chiefs coming

726
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: off of a Monday night football game, I think the

727
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: Raiders could keep it closer than people expect.

728
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: Yeah see, I'm kind of where you are Sam, that's

729
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: my early lean right now on this one. I actually

730
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: would like to, you know, if Kansas City does take

731
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: care of the Eagles, perhaps this one goes to double

732
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: digits and then maybe we're talking if it's eleven or twelve,

733
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: maybe then you really want to jump in on the

734
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: Raiders and maybe wait this one out. I'm of that mind.

735
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: I want to wait and see first. Pat, what are

736
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: your thoughts?

737
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, so this was like right before I got in

738
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 3: the show, Joe, it was ten on DraftKings. So Chiefs

739
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 3: savored by ten. Look, and the Raiders are two and

740
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 3: one straight up in three to zero against the spread.

741
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 3: Since Antonio Pierce took over as head coach, I cannot

742
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 3: take the Raiders in this game when the quarterback matchup

743
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 3: as Patrick Mahomes against Adelaide Stevenson High School graduate Aidan O'Connell.

744
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I do not want to

745
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 3: bet the Chiefs in a potential letdown spot coming off

746
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 3: that big game against the Eagles on a short week

747
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 3: of rest, against a team that's playing its best football

748
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 3: this season. So I'm just I'm staying away from this game.

749
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: All right, before we get onto the night games. I

750
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: somehow for the first time ever missed a game here

751
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: on this show. So let's circle back real quick. It's

752
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 1: not the most exciting game, but it is a game.

753
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: Tipa Bay Buccaneers Indianapolis Colts minus one and a half

754
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: here on the Colt side at home. Forty two and

755
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: a half is the number plus one ten on the

756
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: money line for the Bucks.

757
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 2: Pat.

758
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: That's where I want to go. I'm want to go

759
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: right to the Bucks. They've been competitive. They had a

760
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: lot of shots against the forty nine ers and they

761
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: just kept falling short and four. But the foury nine

762
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: ers defense played very well, so I want to give

763
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: them some credit to I like the Bucks here in

764
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: this game on the road plus one ten. What are

765
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: your thoughts?

766
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Joe on Sunday Night, I always try

767
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 3: to guess what the lines and totals are going to

768
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 3: be for these games before I actually look at what

769
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 3: they are, and I guessed correctly. For Bucks Colts, I

770
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 3: guess that means there's no value whatsoever. I yeah, I

771
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 3: just like, I don't want to bet either side on

772
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 3: this one. The total looks spot on also, so I'm walking.

773
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: On any early value on this one.

774
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, give me the Colts. The only reason I

775
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 2: pointed out that you skip this one is because it's

776
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 2: one of my favorite of the week. I just think

777
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: there's such a massive coaching advantage for Shane Stikeen and

778
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 2: the Colts over Todd Bowles and the Bucks. Like especially

779
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 2: coming off of the buye Jonathan Taylor is starting to

780
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: get into a groove. They're giving him a bigger workload.

781
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 2: I love the Colts in this spot. I think again

782
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 2: taking some alternate spreads with them as well, because you're

783
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 2: leaning a bit into some variance with Gardner Minshew, who

784
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 2: has been a little bit all over the place. But

785
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 2: I like the over in this game as well. The

786
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 2: Colts have played exceptionally fast. They are leaving ten to

787
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 2: twelve seconds on the playclock for every play. Teams that

788
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: are facing the Colts too, are playing super up tempo

789
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: as well, so I think both of these offenses are

790
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 2: good enough to continue to move the ball. As long

791
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 2: as there aren't some deep red zone turnovers by either team,

792
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 2: then this total is going to go well above the

793
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: forty two and a half points.

794
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: Sunday Night football, the Los Angeles Chargers will be home

795
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 1: against the Ravens, and I hope the Ravens take out

796
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: my frustrations on the Chargers. For me, I'm choosing a

797
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: champion game of throne style and my champion is Lamar Jackson.

798
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley was not happy after this press conference, nor

799
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: should he be. You can tell things are getting a

800
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: little tight, little frustrating there, and I'm going to advantage

801
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: of it. Look, Baltimore Ravens are only four point favorites

802
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: here in this game. I think it should be more.

803
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: I just do forty six and a half is the

804
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: number plus one sixty five on the money line for

805
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers. Sam, I want the Baltimore Ravens

806
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: of this game. I want to lock this one in

807
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: now because I think more people, excuse me, more time

808
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: people have to think about this one, the more they're

809
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: going to realize that that's a value here on Baltimore.

810
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: But what are your thoughts?

811
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: I agree, losing Mark Andrews in the Thursday night game

812
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: last season really sucks, but they are going to come

813
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: off some extended time having played on Thursday nights, so

814
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 2: I think it gives them some time to regroup to

815
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: get Isaiah likely in the other tight ends a little

816
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: bit more chemistry as well. And this Charger's defense is

817
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: just so so bad. I mean, they allowed Jordan Love

818
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 2: to have his first three hundred yard passing game and

819
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 2: it just it just doesn't look better in any week.

820
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 2: I mean that did Ravens have a coaching advantage here too.

821
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 2: Brandon Staley has not sort of been the the plus

822
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 2: ev guy that we have seen in the past, and

823
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 2: the Ravens defense is still incredible, I think, So give

824
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: me the Ravens with the points here.

825
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: Pat your thoughts, Ravens or Chargers.

826
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 4: Let's make it unanimous.

827
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 3: I do like the Ravens too, and some of the

828
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 3: ratings systems have the Ravens is about eight points better

829
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 3: on a neutral field, and let's face it, Chargers home

830
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 3: games basically are a neutral field, So I think there's

831
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 3: value on the Ravens here, all right.

832
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: Next one's not on a neutral field at all. This

833
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: one's in Minnesota. The last one Monday night football, So

834
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs unfortunately came up a little bit short this

835
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: past Sunday night, So Monday maybe redemption story. They are

836
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: three and a half point favorites against the Bears. That

837
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: feels about right. Forty five is the number that feels

838
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: about right plus one fifty four of the Bears and

839
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 1: the upset. Now, the Bears had that game right there

840
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: towards the end with the Detroit Lions, they let it

841
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: slip through their fingers. So do you think that the

842
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: Bears having to go on the road two weeks in

843
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: a row, this time to Minnesota, another tough in division contest,

844
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: do you think they fall short again? Pat?

845
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I sort of like the Bears here, Joe, I

846
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 3: don't know if they win. Probability ever crested ninety percent

847
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 3: in that game against the Lions. I'm guessing it probably

848
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 3: did at one point because it, like the Lions found

849
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 3: out just how dangerous this Bears team can be. And

850
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 3: the Bears are defensive overachievers. They have turned into one

851
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 3: of the best run defenses in the league, which is

852
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 3: someone unexpected. And like, I don't think they're terrible in

853
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 3: the back end either, Like they lack a little bit

854
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 3: of a pass rush of the Montes. Sweat has helped

855
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 3: in that regard, and now with Justin Fields back, they

856
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 3: are explosive on offense too. Like not a great running game,

857
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 3: but Fields can run and he can make it happen

858
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 3: like we saw it on that play where he threw

859
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 3: the long touch on pass to DJ Moore where he

860
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 3: like pass rush was coming, he eluded it and bought

861
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 3: himself some time and DJ Moore got open deep. So

862
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 3: I like the Bears in the points here against the Vikings,

863
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 3: who you know, might still be stinging a little bit

864
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 3: from one that got away from them against the Broncos.

865
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: Sam, I think that forty five is very much in

866
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: play on the overside of this game too, because of

867
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: the playmaking ability of fields. And you know, we've seen

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Speaker 1: Dobbs just pretty good work here early on, and only

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Speaker 1: more time he has this offense, the better it is.

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Speaker 1: Ty Chandler getting his work too as well in that backfield.

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Speaker 1: It was not just a Madison backfield. But what are

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Speaker 1: your thoughts on the Bears and Vikings on Monday Night?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think obviously the loss for Minnesota could make

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Speaker 2: it so that Justin Jefferson returns in this game as well.

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Speaker 2: Had they won, I think they might have just waited

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Speaker 2: another week going into the buy to just let him rest.

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Speaker 2: Even more so, if they get him back, I think

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Speaker 2: Joshua Dobbs will be able to take this one to home.

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Speaker 2: I mean the Bears are just not this sounds weird,

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Speaker 2: but like they're not a winning team, like Matt Eberflus

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Speaker 2: I think are sort of making up for his play

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Speaker 2: calling deficiencies on the field. So I three and a

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Speaker 2: half points, though I think is a little bit too much.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly what I made it prior to looking at

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Speaker 2: the line, so the over could be in play. But

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Speaker 2: I would love if Justin Jefferson was in before making

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