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Speaker 1: Revere, Revere Dalks.

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Speaker 2: Look at this now, tip to tip. This is our life,

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Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring to

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Speaker 1: I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this morning combat. Hey. It's the ninth of January

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three and it's time for morning calm bat

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Speaker 1: Hi everyone. I am one half of your hosting duo,

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Speaker 1: and like i've been all since last week, I joined

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Speaker 1: you from the capital of the status anitos right here

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Speaker 1: in Washington, DC, joined by my friend in the Great

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Speaker 1: White North. He is uh pathetic. He says a lot

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Speaker 1: of things about himself. Really just a piece of shit

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Speaker 1: like me. It's Brian Campbell. Brian Campbell. How are you.

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Speaker 2: Happy to be back home? Luke? You know it's a

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Speaker 2: new year. What are you drinking there? Some uh some

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Speaker 2: lime gatorade to uh take down that life hangover you're

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Speaker 1: I wish I had a hangover. I'm just old and sad. No,

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Speaker 1: it's died Mountain dew or I should say.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh wow, wow, that's got greatch it. Does it

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Speaker 2: come with a vape, Luke? Or do you have to

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Speaker 2: purchase that separately?

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Speaker 1: Dude? I haven't vaped one time? He all right, one time?

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm so far so good. Knock on wood right.

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Speaker 2: Okay for one vice to another. Hey, we all got

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Speaker 1: I figure out the dive mountain dew I can get

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Speaker 1: away with. Plus it's got a caffeine which I need.

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Speaker 1: We have a fun show. We were in we were

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Speaker 1: excuse me, not New York. We were in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 1: Last week where the Tank Davis fight. Will react to that.

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Speaker 1: Plus we do have some MMA news we're going to

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Speaker 1: get to as well. And MMA returns to the calendar

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Speaker 1: this coming weekend. So the drought that everyone has been

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Speaker 1: you for joining us, all that good stuff. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: we see who you got a call from?

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Speaker 2: Hey, hey, Towey. MMA is back this weekend. Let's bang Yeah.

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Speaker 1: a match, a little bit of vasiline? What I say?

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Speaker 1: Is it gas or match? Just a match in a

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Speaker 1: Don't anymore?

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Speaker 2: Getting weird, Luke, it's getting pretty weird. But you know

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Speaker 2: that's the ice cube.

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Speaker 1: This song to n w A when he left it,

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Speaker 1: what we'll react to, Tank Davis. We act to Habib

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Speaker 1: potentially or maybe outright leaving the sport. All kinds of

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Speaker 1: fun stuff there. We want to remind folks. Showtime dot

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Speaker 1: BC? I know we have deals going on at Morningcombat

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Speaker 1: About a month's time, we're going to be in London, right,

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Speaker 2: To announce the names Luke, the names that will be

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Speaker 2: Did Mike end up reaching out to Harry and Meghan

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Speaker 1: I don't know if. I don't know if I even

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Speaker 1: It's just it's like it's like it's just another family

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Speaker 1: over the weekend showtime pay per view, Jervonte Tank Davis

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Speaker 2: this fight, and I really thought Shouldon s so well,

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Speaker 2: I mean, whether you're liking Stephen Fulton, Jermale Charlow, you know,

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Speaker 2: But I don't know how you could watch this on

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Speaker 2: Saturday night, watch the precision, the efficiency and ultimately the

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Speaker 2: of hope that he can keep this together and keep

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Speaker 2: on Saturday, and Tank absolutely delivered. Luke. It's the precision,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The show started at nine and it didn't end

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Speaker 1: from there. Garcia had no adjustment that he could make

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Speaker 1: I do wonder though, that what lesson this Tank gonna

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Speaker 2: Get into that Hector Luis Garcia had the skills in

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Speaker 2: Garcia started to turn. He hung close, he hung in there,

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Speaker 2: but ultimately Luke, he was unable to hurt to do

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, hurt tank and do any type of reverse

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Speaker 2: Is this you talk about the matchmaking. Yes, there were

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Speaker 2: I thought some of that criticism was absolutely real. I

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Speaker 1: We simply don't know. But I'm a little bit skeptical,

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00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,479
Speaker 1: a little bit. I mean, here's the thing. Right, On

432
00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,879
Speaker 1: the one hand, just look at this fight as a

433
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,440
Speaker 1: great example what the point I'm about to make, which

434
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:07,640
Speaker 1: was basically, once Tank decided to really start punching hard

435
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,040
Speaker 1: cardcore punching like big power shots, it was more or

436
00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,639
Speaker 1: less the beginning of the end. Right, it was more

437
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,880
Speaker 1: or less the beginning of the end. That's the issue.

438
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,320
Speaker 1: So it's like, I can understand why Tank feels like

439
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,440
Speaker 1: this is a great strategy for him. Take a few rounds,

440
00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,880
Speaker 1: see what's up, get a good read, catch everything, block

441
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,119
Speaker 1: everything that you need to, and when it's time to go,

442
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,200
Speaker 1: and you can begin to get the punches you want off.

443
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,679
Speaker 1: In this particular case, he was slipping the jab. He

444
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,360
Speaker 1: was going to the body and then over the top.

445
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,440
Speaker 1: I can hear you, Yeah, I can hear you, bc

446
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:41,680
Speaker 1: lo and clear. The reality is it all worked just fine,

447
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 1: it all it all just worked. No, yeah, it all worked.

448
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,359
Speaker 1: I gotta have to mute you because I can't. I

449
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,640
Speaker 1: can't do this. This is a little too much. Anyway.

450
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 1: The point I'm trying to make is that if you're

451
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:57,880
Speaker 1: so confident that you can be really muted for let's

452
00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 1: say a fourth of the fight, and then once you

453
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 1: decide to get going, it's just all downhill from there.

454
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 1: I can see why you would feel that way, that

455
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 1: that's a great strategy for you. On the other hand,

456
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 1: does that really scale against the elite? Can you punt

457
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,640
Speaker 1: on them for three rounds or so and then hope

458
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 1: in the last nine that your power carries you through

459
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 1: At one? I definitely don't think he can get away

460
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 1: with it, and no, so the question is that one

461
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 1: thirty five, could he get away with it? Maybe? Maybe?

462
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 1: I guess we'll have to see the one against Ryan Garcia.

463
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 1: It seems possible because Ryan is very good offensively, but

464
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 1: I don't think he's got great defense. I think he's

465
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 1: there to be hit, and so I think that was

466
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 1: something we'll talk about that in a second. Against the Stevensons,

467
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 1: against the Devin Haneys, maybe because I don't think Devin

468
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 1: Haney has the firepower to go back at him. Neither

469
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,199
Speaker 1: does Stevenson. But he's a good, real, good touch and

470
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:53,119
Speaker 1: go kind of guy too, So that the Stevenson and

471
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,479
Speaker 1: the Haney ones are the interesting ones for me. Because

472
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 1: they both had the capacity to fight at range and

473
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 1: at distance. They've good movement and they can score right,

474
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 1: they can touch and move. I just wonder like there's

475
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Speaker 1: a certain way that Tank is getting comfortable fighting that

476
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 1: I'm not sure scales up to the next challenge or

477
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 1: even more to the next weight class in terms of

478
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 1: the elite side of the opposition. I guess we'll have

479
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 1: to see. With that in mind, we see, let's go

480
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 1: to point number two, which is now we have this

481
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 1: all set in motion. Right, there aren't anything There isn't

482
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 1: anything sign that we are aware of, but there should

483
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 1: be no obstacles at this point in getting an April

484
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,679
Speaker 1: set fight between Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia. In terms

485
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 1: of what we saw on Saturday against Hector Garcia, what

486
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 1: can you now say about how Tank and Ryan Garcia

487
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:45,360
Speaker 1: match up.

488
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 2: You know, they match up differently. It's a different type

489
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 2: of fight than against Hector Garcia. I thought we could

490
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 2: the potential to really learn some things because Hector was

491
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 2: a South Paul. Ryan's not, though, But Hector has long

492
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 2: arms and he's able to use that effectively, usually from

493
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 2: close range. Again, Tank's power discipline him. That was the

494
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 2: turning point that was the biggest question we had for

495
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 2: Hector Garcia. Ryan Garcia is different. He's taller and longer,

496
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 2: and I believe punch for punch, he's faster than Tank.

497
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 2: Now obviously that's something we're gonna have to see inside

498
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 2: the ring. Tank is so quick, but also has the

499
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,479
Speaker 2: accuracy and power on top of it that he can

500
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 2: be such a deadly sharpshooter. But I do think it's

501
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 2: a different fight altogether by Ryan Garcia against Ryan Garcia,

502
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 2: And the biggest thing the speed's part of it, but

503
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 2: it's what the speed leads to. Ryan Garcia is a

504
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 2: potential threat here power wise to hurt Tank, and that

505
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 2: distance that they're gonna have to operate at because of

506
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 2: the size difference puts the onus on Tank to need

507
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 2: to get inside. But my biggest fear, to echo off

508
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 2: what you said, when he does step up to that

509
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 2: super elite level and we'll see we don't really know

510
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 2: about Ryan Garcia. We don't know if he's you know,

511
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 2: super earlie in certain categories. Can he carry that against

512
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 2: the big names and you know, and not give in

513
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 2: to vulnerability. That's a big, big thing about that. But

514
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 2: the whole idea is this when he meets the kind

515
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 2: of opposition that can lower that can take his low

516
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 2: output and use it against him. How do you do that?

517
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 2: A long, stiff, quick, piston like jab would be a

518
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 2: big part of it. That's the equation I most want

519
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 2: to see, And in some ways, that's asking Ryan Garcia

520
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 2: to do more than he usually does, because he can

521
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 2: be a slick boxer, but it's usually in the intention

522
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 2: of setting you up to knock you out with huge

523
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 2: power shots. Can Ryan Garcia show the kind of poise

524
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 2: that can use that jab and use volume to steal

525
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 2: a certain amount of rounds against Tank and then make

526
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 2: this an interesting fight in the second half. I think

527
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 2: that's where the potential of the lower output can catch

528
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 2: up with Tank. But Luke, he's shown us he can

529
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 2: fight different ways at different times against different opponents and

530
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 2: his rise up these weight classes. Even though it's a

531
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,719
Speaker 2: different kind of challenge, I like what I saw at

532
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 2: a Tank. It doesn't change those same thing of what

533
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 2: we're tuning in to see. Separate from the two big

534
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 2: fan bases, we're tuning in to see two unbeaten stars,

535
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 2: both that can knock each other out and both that

536
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 2: can potentially handle themselves. If the fight goes the distance,

537
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 2: this is going to be interesting because this is this

538
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 2: is about as big of a one hundred thirty five

539
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,479
Speaker 2: pounder as you can get. Ryan Garcia, He's already announced

540
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 2: to move up to one forty. This fight's gonna be

541
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 2: a catchway at one thirty six. It could be his

542
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 2: last stop there, meaning Ryan Garcia before you know, an

543
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 2: eventual move up forty and forty seven down the road.

544
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: But this is a big, long, fast and powerful opponent.

545
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 2: And I think the ultimate wildcard in here is Ryan

546
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 2: Garcia goes for the knockout. He's willing to walk into danger. Dude,

547
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 2: this is gonna be some fun theater. Call April now, Luke,

548
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,959
Speaker 2: I gotta I got you know this is about me

549
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 2: just for this one second. I got a family vacation

550
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 2: in April. Don't don't land on that April fifteenth day.

551
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 2: You think they can move it.

552
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: For me, Luke, I don't think that they're gonna move

553
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: it for you. BC. Let me ask you a question,

554
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 1: looking back on the career of Tank Davis, how would

555
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 1: you say you how is his durability and how well

556
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: can you say you know how durable he is?

557
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 2: We don't know. We don't know. He fought a bigger

558
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 2: fighter in Mario Barrios and did have to exchange to

559
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 2: get inside. And as we talked about, it was brick

560
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 2: by brick building that led to that late stoppage and

561
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 2: it was just beautiful to see him persevere break through

562
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: land those big power shots. But have we seen tank down?

563
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 2: I don't remember seeing that. Have we seen him in

564
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: a firefight where it's equal, No, we haven't seen that.

565
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 2: That of course is more likely when you're that great

566
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: and you start to raise up in weight classes because

567
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 2: you know, business becomes bigger for you. That's something he's

568
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 2: gonna have to navigate Luke for sure, and potentially in

569
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 2: this Ryan Garcia fight. But do we have a long

570
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 2: history seeing tanking wars. No, because his power has been

571
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: so great that he stops so many guys early and

572
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 2: whenever he didn't. Man, dude, what can you say about

573
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 2: like we said about his efficiency, his ability to box,

574
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 2: his availbility, to navigate distance, all of that. It's super elite.

575
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 2: So there's still some unanswered questions just the same. And

576
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 2: I like the way you asked that. Whereas we know

577
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 2: Ryan Garcia could hurt him. We're gonna have to find

578
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 2: out if that comes into play in this fight, right.

579
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: But let's go the other way around. What about Ryan Garcia' durability?

580
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 1: You know, I know who is it, Luke Campbell who

581
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: dropped him? If I'm not mistaken, right, Yeah, there's questions there.

582
00:26:58,080 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 2: There's questions there, Luke.

583
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: So tell me what do we know about Garcia's durability,

584
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 1: either to the body, to the head, overall all of it.

585
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 2: Well, look, the big one is what you talked about.

586
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 2: What's the best winner Ryan Garcia's career. It's the Luke

587
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 2: Campbell one. Campbell is an Olympic medallist, a former, you know,

588
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 2: multiple time world title challenger. Never got over that hump,

589
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 2: but he's got long arms. He's a slickboxer, not known

590
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 2: for huge pop. But he landed basically a knockout punch

591
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 2: on Ryan Garcia to Raye Guy's credit. And I know

592
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: people hate when I call him that he got up Luke.

593
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 2: He shook off the cobwebs, he rallies back to stop

594
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 2: him and actually retire him from the sport. That's the

595
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: only major sort of piece of you know, vulnerability that

596
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 2: we can use against There's been a couple of pockets

597
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 2: of Ryan Garcia in fights where he's gotten hit pretty big.

598
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 2: But I think, ultimately, Luke, it's what you said, it's like,

599
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 2: is that defense in ultimately that punch resistance on the

600
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 2: same level as the sublime nature of what makes him

601
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 2: dangerous offensively? I would say, we just don't have proof

602
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 2: that it is. And every time I interview with Ryan Garcia,

603
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: I straight up ask him about that, because you know,

604
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 2: that is the big if there's anything that potentially holds

605
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 2: him back from stardom in people's eyes, or maybe not

606
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 2: starting is the right word, but you know, critical respectability on.

607
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: You know, when we talk about guys entering the pound

608
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 2: for pound conversation is does he move his head enough

609
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: and can he take big time power? He got up

610
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 2: against Luke Campbell, but Campbell wasn't known as a finisher.

611
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,479
Speaker 2: So who has the most questions to answer? Certainly Ryan Garcia,

612
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: which is gonna be a big part why I believe

613
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 2: Tank will be the betting favorite coming into this and

614
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 2: deserves to be. But Tank was the smaller looking guy

615
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 2: against Hector Garcia. Certainly from the standpoint of reach, Ryan

616
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 2: Garcia is legitimately taller and longer than him. So yeah,

617
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 2: Ryan Garcia's got to questions to answer about his chant

618
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: about his willingness. But one thing we do know he's

619
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 2: willing to do, though, is walk into the fire to

620
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: try to win it. And it's like you might say, well,

621
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 2: it doesn't everybody try that. No, there are levels to that.

622
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: There are levels to willingness and a big fight, especially

623
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,719
Speaker 2: when there's heavy danger coming back to stand in that

624
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: pocket and try to do what you do best. That's

625
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: one of Ryan Garcia's greatest skill. It also could be

626
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: his greatest vulnerability. But that's one of his greatest skills

627
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: and threats that he's willing to go there to find out.

628
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: But can he takes can he take takes flush shots?

629
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 2: I don't know, Luke. I'd bet against it.

630
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: But I don't think anyone in one thirty five can

631
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: take Tank's flush shots, not not for very long. Like

632
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: there's the only so many We mentioned it on Saturday

633
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: night for folks who missed the fight. Tank Davis stopped

634
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: him because Garcia told his corner between the eighth and

635
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: ninth rounds he couldn't see right. But if you go

636
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: back and look, Tank didn't swell up the soft tissue

637
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: of an eye that closed it, or he didn't break

638
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: the eye socket and then swolled up and the closed it.

639
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: The guy had two open eyes. He couldn't see because

640
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: he got hit in the head so hard. Basically his

641
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: brain didn't work right and it shut off. He couldn't

642
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: he lost vision, and he didn't know where he was.

643
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about like clubbing hercules level power

644
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: from a guy like Tank. They just they just can't

645
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: stand up to it. BC. I'll tell you this much

646
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: what I like about Tank versus Ryan Garcia. I mean,

647
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: it's any number of different reasons to like it. It's

648
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: not very difficult to find a reason to like it.

649
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: But one reason on top of all the other ones

650
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: that we've mentioned that I like it is that I think,

651
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: for the first time, we're going to get a real

652
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,719
Speaker 1: clear sense of the limits, both positive and negative, of

653
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: both guys. And the reason I say that is because

654
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: not that Tank is number one on the pound of

655
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: pound list, nor Ryan Garcia, but Tank is probably i

656
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: would say a little bit better defensively than Ryan Garcia.

657
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: But because of the length disadvantage, in the height disadvantage,

658
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: and because Tank needs guys to open to close distance, right.

659
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: He needs those guys to be in motion for him

660
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: to then motion or at least to create some kind

661
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: of opening through motion. You're gonna have offense versus offense.

662
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: And if you have offense versus defense, you get a

663
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: case like Canelo versus like, for example, Caleb Plant, which

664
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: is a great fight. It's a fine fight, but you

665
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: kind of know where the fight's going to go and

666
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: you kind of know the contours of it. You just

667
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: want to see if Canelo could get over the hump,

668
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: and he did. Here is a case where we're going

669
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: to actually find out exactly how durable a guy like

670
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: Tank Davis is because he's going to get hit. There's

671
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: simply no two ways about it. Yes, it's a boxing match,

672
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: but I mean he's gonna take punches he probably hasn't

673
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: taken from many other guys before. Conversely, so is Ryan Garcia.

674
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: And when that happens, when those kinds of shots begin

675
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: to land, whatever round that ends up being BC, we're

676
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: going to get a test of their overall defensive skills.

677
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: We're going to get a test of what kind of

678
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: alterations they can make to their strategy. We're going to

679
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: get a test about what their real durability looks like.

680
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: There have been lots of unanswered questions about Tank, and

681
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: there's a lot of unanswered questions about Ryan Garcia. The

682
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: reason why this fight is so great is many of them,

683
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: not all of them, but many of them are very

684
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: likely to be answered when they collide in April. And

685
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: for that fact finding reason, I am very excited.

686
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: And officially, Ryan Garcia's four and a half inches taller

687
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: than Tank as a lot has a three and a

688
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 2: half inch reach advantage. By the way, on paper, Garcia

689
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 2: only had a half inch reach advantage over Tank. It

690
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 2: certainly looked, you know, bigger when they were in the

691
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: ring together, but dude Garcia tried his best. Hector Garcia

692
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: tried his best to essentially no sell the power throughout

693
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: the fight. I did rewatch it as you did this morning,

694
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: Luke and Man once the once the once. The fight

695
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 2: restarted after the meek Mill crowd incident. That's when Tank

696
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: landed his his greatest in succession of clean power shots

697
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 2: in Man. Each one was was was pushing Hector Garcia

698
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,959
Speaker 2: deeper into the into the beyond, and I give him

699
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: a lot of credit for him and hanging in there

700
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 2: and trying to win, but he lacked firepower. What's the

701
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: greatest thing? Ryan Garcia brings it along with the size,

702
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: speed and firepower. So yeah, Luke, Uh, there are people

703
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: still I get tweets. How the hell could you say

704
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: tank is pumped for pound worthy?

705
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: Uh?

706
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: Look at the skills, check the punch numbers. Take the

707
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: total accumulation of the guys he's beat. Remember that he's

708
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 2: won some form of TUTB. Look. I don't like to

709
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: celebrate secondary titles, but he has one some form of

710
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: a title in three divisions. He won three straight pay

711
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 2: per view fights a year and a half ago at

712
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 2: three different weight divisions. Yes, we're watching one of the

713
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: best fighters in the game today and this fight against

714
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: Ryan Garcia will be as big as everyone wants it.

715
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: To me, Luke, you said it could be everyone wants

716
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: it to be. I said, you said it could be

717
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 2: above a million pay per view by which is I

718
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: don't know. It's really hard to do in this era,

719
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 2: especially when you don't add a crossover circus element to it.

720
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: This fight has, you know, nothing holding it back and

721
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 2: all the reason to overachieve in terms of what they

722
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: can do with it. I hope we get the full

723
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: multi city press tour treatment. I hope we get you know,

724
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 2: something special. On the build up, I was disappointed Ryan

725
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 2: Garcia didn't show up, Luke. You know, in boxing sense,

726
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: that's the way you That's the way you build a

727
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 2: narrative and connect to the dots together. It would have

728
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 2: been great to see him go into the ring afterwards

729
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 2: and be interviewed. But hey, can't have it all.

730
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: Right, can't have it all. But I'll say this. I

731
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: I when the fight was over and I was texting

732
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: my friends and talking to my wife. The one of

733
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: the first questions I got was, Hey, when is he

734
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: fighting again? We want to see that. Yeah, like you

735
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like, obviously all the boxing insiders know,

736
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: and I think sports fans have some idea about Tank

737
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: Davis versus Ryan Garcia. But now the casual fans in

738
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: my orbit are all like, dude, like, whatever that is,

739
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: we want more of that. I think it will sell

740
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 1: quite well. It'd be really interesting to see how that goes.

741
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: Cannot wait for it, cannot wait to see what some

742
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: of the prognostications look like. As well. As we move

743
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: closer to Jerk date, did.

744
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 2: Your Connecticut born fraternity brother, enjoy the enjoy the fight,

745
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: Luke in person.

746
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: He did, although he is an attorney by trade, and

747
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: he was very sad about how late he had to

748
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: stay up. Also also a buddy of mine. If you

749
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: don't know the distance here, I be. I guess it's

750
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: like a couple of miles, maybe a little bit more

751
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: than that. A buddy of mine. When the fight was over,

752
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: couldn't get any ubers, Like there was no ubers round

753
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 1: the Capitol One arena. So he just walked home without

754
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: a jacket. And by the time he got there, he

755
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,479
Speaker 1: took a picture of his hands. They were solid pink

756
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 1: from how cold it was. But walking outside, I was like, well,

757
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:03,240
Speaker 1: you know.

758
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 2: You are an adult. You are allowed to bring a

759
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 2: jacket in the winter. But I know, you know, Luke,

760
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 2: it's it wasn't quite quite Barclay Center level. But the

761
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,399
Speaker 2: people in your city maybe need to do their shirt

762
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 2: laundry because that they were sparking it up inside the

763
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 2: Capitol There was a.

764
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: Lot of marijuana smell in the old cap Wa arena

765
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: that day.

766
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 2: But you know, and we were in that we would

767
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: know we you know, we we called those fights from

768
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 2: the roof Luke, So all that smoke rose up. We

769
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 2: had the full you know, yeah, we.

770
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: Were in one of those you know, we could just

771
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: absorb all of the all of the weight of the smoke.

772
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,439
Speaker 1: It was great. All right, let's go to point number

773
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: three here, b see real quickly on this comine event,

774
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,959
Speaker 1: Jerron Ennis pitched a shut up basically gets caught in

775
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: Chu Kazan in the comine event obviously was on the

776
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 1: Davis Garcia card. And the question is did he look

777
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: human the first time? Again? I went and rewatched this

778
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: fight as well. I do have some thoughts about it.

779
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: But BC give me a grade. What grade would you

780
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: give us in this particular contest?

781
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 2: I give him a B plus. And anyone that saw

782
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 2: that who don't watch Jeron innis a lot. But you know,

783
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 2: hear us, to be fair, regularly talk about him in

784
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 2: ways that you know, to be again, to be fair,

785
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 2: we don't talk about anyone like that, you know, not

786
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 2: in a long time. So from that regard, was it

787
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 2: a letdown? Yes? This could end up being one of

788
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: those back door positives for Boots because it could make

789
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 2: him look human to future opponents who might duck him

790
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 2: and certainly could wake him up to like, hey, there's

791
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 2: some things you do have to round out and work on.

792
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,479
Speaker 2: But let's be honest here, this was an opponent who

793
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 2: was physically tougher than I think a lot of us

794
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: thought because we just hadn't seen much of him, had

795
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: much better move erratic movement that really made boots work.

796
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: But you know, punch stats don't tell the whole story,

797
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: but they can tell a lot of it. Luke, he

798
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 2: landed twice as many punches as Chuka Jin won every

799
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: single round and all three judges scorecards one twenty to

800
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 2: one O eight. The rare times he was touched, which

801
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: is I can really remember about two counter hooks from Chukajohn,

802
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: maybe three at the most. That you know, we're of

803
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 2: a we're of legitimate value. Where you go, ooh, let's

804
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: see how take response to that? He walked right through

805
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: him and kept doing it. We got to see a

806
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: lot of the swiveling, the switching, his stances of your creativity.

807
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: I would have more negative things to say if one

808
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: of a couple things happened, if he had been hurt

809
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 2: and wobbled and had to overcome that. Remember Devin Haney

810
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 2: against Jorge Lenaris, where we're like, ah, man, but what

811
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 2: about that moment, I'm not sure, or let's say he

812
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: had not tried to persevere through the frustration and tried

813
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 2: to go after it. No, he tried for the knockout

814
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 2: all twelve rounds. Was he overly frustrated at times, including

815
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: round eight? Yeah, he was sort of like, what the

816
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: hell do I have to do here? But if you're

817
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: gonna give praise to Chukazan the you know, was he

818
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: always trying to win? No, he did try to walk

819
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 2: him down late and make something happen, but he was

820
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 2: there to survive. He had a weird ass style. He

821
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: relied on that to avoid big shots. Boots are still young.

822
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 2: But I didn't see anything that can't scale forward, so

823
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: to speak, because he comes at you in such a

824
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 2: variety of ways to draw you out. This was an

825
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 2: opponent who made the decision is I'm not only drawing

826
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 2: myself out to leave myself open to be countered. I'm

827
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 2: not gonna be there to be hit either. That's a

828
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: frustrating fight. It happens in boxing, and sometimes you know

829
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: you can only you can only do as good as

830
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: the guy across from you is willing to let you,

831
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: which is why when we talk about Naoa Innue, who

832
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 2: just you know, became the undispute a bandonwhite champion against

833
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: Paul Butler, who was not there to win, was there

834
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 2: to survive a new A's ability to walk him down

835
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: finally in round ten or eleven and force that to

836
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: happen is why he's number one, poundful pound of the game.

837
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 2: Boots tried to emulate that he couldn't get it done.

838
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 2: Are the things he can work on, yes, But I

839
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: think if anything, it's maybe a reminder for us who

840
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 2: when we don't have the answers and somebody looks this

841
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 2: ridiculous look, it is hard not to paint all the

842
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 2: praise on them, up and down, up and down until

843
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: they earn it. You know this, This is gonna probably

844
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: give Boots a little kick in the ass to go

845
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 2: back out there and just you know, further solidify every

846
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 2: category of his game. But he came in there the

847
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: best shape of his life. I mean, he was in

848
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 2: just sick, disgusting shape. He didn't run out of gas,

849
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 2: His power looked legitimate. He just didn't have a willing

850
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 2: dance partner who was willing to take him there at

851
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: Luke and I did see a lot of negativity, and

852
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 2: look that comes when you hype a guy up. But again,

853
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 2: if this was you know, eight rounds to four and

854
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: he had been overwhelmed for a period or ran out

855
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 2: of gas late, I'd throw up the warning signs. I can't,

856
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 2: I can't throw up the flag.

857
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: Luke.

858
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 2: You know he stood pretty damn great. Check the stats.

859
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 2: Rewatch the fight. He just couldn't get the finish.

860
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, tenth round was his best. Round went to the

861
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: body very heavily, clearly had an effect on Chukazan, who

862
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: was struggling to keep up in that particular round. But

863
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 1: then he made a decent show of himself down the stretch.

864
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: And for folks who don't know, Boots cleaned up on

865
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: the scorecards. He won every round on every judge's scorecard.

866
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: It was one twenty to one oh eight, clean sweep

867
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: the whole way through. So it's not like he had

868
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: a poor performance in that sense. And I agree with

869
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: you think of B plus is about right. Here's what

870
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: I will say, ABC. I'm not going to rewatch the

871
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: Clayton And I don't know if this really happened in

872
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: the DeLorme fight, but it happened a little bit in

873
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: the Clayton fight, little bit in the lip in its fight.

874
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,439
Speaker 1: But certainly the Clayton oneans have got my attention. It's

875
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: not a big sample size, and the numbers don't say

876
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: that Boots gets hit a lot because he doesn't. That's

877
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: not true. But he does open himself up a little

878
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: bit to being hit in ways where if he didn't

879
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 1: he takes punches he doesn't have to. I'm gonna put

880
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: it that way. There are certain situations like, for example,

881
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: Chew Kozom was making it very difficult for him, but

882
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: he was constantly retreating, but he'd be times where he'd retreat, retreat,

883
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: Boots would just kind of march into him and then

884
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: he would stop and he would tag Boots all the

885
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: time like this, because Boots was just kind of just

886
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: marching him down in ways where he didn't necessarily have

887
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: to do. And you could argue, well, Boots was winning

888
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: and he doesn't fear Chew Goozom's power. Right. But again

889
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 1: we're talking about with this Tank Davis conversation. You are

890
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: You are what your habits are, right, whatever your habits

891
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: are in all the times when you're stressed, when you're

892
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: not stressed, when you're in trouble, when you're not trouble,

893
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: that's what ultimately who That's what will reveal who you are,

894
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: is what your habits are day to day and in

895
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: fight to fight, I have noticed he will invite certain

896
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: forms of risk that I find less than ideal and

897
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: he gets hit for it. Now, the other part I

898
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 1: don't think you can kill him too much is Chukazan

899
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: had very good movement, very good defense. He was hard

900
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: to even hit clean right and as you mentioned, Boots

901
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: had a two to one lead on him in terms

902
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: of the numeric totals. Like he was trying. He won

903
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: all the rounds. He had a great round ten. I

904
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: get Round ten was a solid a for me, But

905
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: everything else was like somewhere in the B department, because

906
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: I just felt like, if you've got that much skill,

907
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: you didn't have to finish him. That's really hard to do.

908
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 1: But you should not take as many punches as you did,

909
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: even if there is a lead numerically and what you

910
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: were able to dish out offensively. I don't want to

911
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 1: see Boots accept punishment of any variety, really, any noteworthy

912
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: variety that isn't otherwise necessary. And he did invite some

913
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: I wonder, BC, do you share some of those observations

914
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: that I have and do they give you the same

915
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: kind of concerns.

916
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't share that. I think in

917
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 2: this situation. You know, again, I counted about three legitimate

918
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 2: punches where I would have said, oh wow, Chika Jin

919
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: is trying to you know, he's trying to get back

920
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 2: in this that Boots took cleanly. Look was that a

921
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: young fighter who knows about the hype, knows that if

922
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 2: he wins this fight, he's spence his mandatory. You know,

923
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: probably wanted to do some big call out, tried his

924
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: best to try to form any rally to get a stoppage.

925
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: And what's the best way to do that. Sometimes it's

926
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 2: being in the pocket and being willing to be hit

927
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: to draw out the offense of your opponent. I don't

928
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,879
Speaker 2: think we have a history of that in watching Tank,

929
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: in watching Boots fight. Excuse me, but I think even

930
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 2: beyond that is he's a dynamic offensive force, which means

931
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 2: you have to be moving forward into danger and be

932
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: willing to welcome that. I mean, look at you know,

933
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: one of the best technicians of this modern era, Gonatti Galovkin.

934
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, there were times that people would go,

935
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: oh yeah, but it does get hit. Yeah, he's gonna

936
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 2: get hit when he's walking in on you to try

937
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: to make big things happen. So maybe when when someone

938
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: gets praised at this level, we expect superhuman perfection. I mean, look,

939
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 2: our praise was getting to that level because he was

940
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 2: going in there against certain tests and whipping him out

941
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 2: in two rounds and not getting touched. I think when

942
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 2: when the danger level rises, you won't see that same

943
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 2: willingness level. But does this remind you that you can't

944
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 2: earn all the accolades until you earn it in the ring. Yes,

945
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: and Boots has never stopped trying to earn it in

946
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: the ring. He's willing to fight everybody. He's played the

947
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 2: political system the best way you can. Now the champs,

948
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: including Ero Spence, have to fight him or give up

949
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: the title, So we'll see what happens next. But Luke,

950
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 2: you do wonder if he gets that backdoor help that

951
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: people watch that tape, because you know, Spence tweeted out

952
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 2: lol very cryptically right around the time that this Boots

953
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 2: fight ended, So you know, if that makes people more

954
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 2: willing to fight him, then then that's gonna help Team

955
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 2: Boots in the end. But uh, I just don't I'm

956
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 2: not concerned here. I'm not concerned in this instance.

957
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess concern would be a strong word. I

958
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm concerned, but I just there's some

959
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: I find young fighters being flippant. I mean flipp it's

960
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: a strong word, because he is strong defensively overall. But

961
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: I've just got a certain rule BC. And here's one

962
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: thing we don't really talk about like with like, for example,

963
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: in MMA with with Izzy right, the former middleweight champion, Dude,

964
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 1: his style is going to scale not just for championship

965
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: level ability, but for the next stage in his life. Right, Yes,

966
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: he got knocked out against Pereira here he got knocked

967
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: out before. But in general, and of course he had

968
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: the rough gasoline fight. I mean, he's in a rough business.

969
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: But in general, you would agree for a championship level fighter,

970
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: he doesn't take hardly any damage at all. That's going

971
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: to keep him safe in fights, and that's gonna set

972
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: up the next stage of his life after fighting. I

973
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: just don't really love it when young fighters are like,

974
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: I don't really care about his punches. I don't care

975
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: about those punches. It's like you should, you should, you

976
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: should care a little bit more about it. Even if

977
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: you can take it, and you need to take it,

978
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: that's fine. But don't run into punches. You're too good

979
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: to run into. I just have a little bit of it,

980
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: and I'm nitpicking. Are here right?

981
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? You are. I feel like you could. You could

982
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 2: argue that it deserves that nitpicking after the huge praise

983
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 2: that somebody like him gets. This is a rare phenomenon

984
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 2: who feels like a finished product at such a young age,

985
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 2: and you're gonna have to feel that out. I mean, look, look,

986
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 2: he may go in there and his biggest tests and

987
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 2: get knocked out or run out of gas. These are answers.

988
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 2: We don't have to the questions. But don't overcorrect too much, Luke.

989
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: And also like he like chu kas On. We said

990
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 1: this when we were watching in real time, right be see,

991
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: it was kind of like, obviously they're very different fighters,

992
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 1: but there was something to be said about chu Kanson

993
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: looked like it was Arislandi Laura out there running out

994
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 1: on the outside of the perimeter and he do that.

995
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: Arislandi Laura is a hard guy to look good against

996
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: because he especially in his prime anyway, because he could

997
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: move and hit and then change angles, and he was

998
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: hard to corner, hard to land on cleanly. Chukazan was

999
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: that At the same time. I just you know, again,

1000
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: if you're gonna give him a B plus, you have

1001
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 1: to say what went wrong right, because nothing went perfectly

1002
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 1: for me, A little bit too inviting of things. He's

1003
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: better than I would just like to see him tighten

1004
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: that up. That's it. That's the only thing I've to say. Also,

1005
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: if they didn't give him Spence next, and they didn't

1006
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: give him you know whoever, and he ended up taking

1007
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,959
Speaker 1: a fight against Ugas BC, I might like that even more.

1008
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: Like perhaps this is my last consideration about this fight,

1009
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: which was listen, if they made Spence versus Boots next,

1010
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: I would hardly complain about it. But if this is

1011
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: a learning opportunity, let's give him someone who is elite,

1012
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: who's got a great name as well. Let's see how

1013
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: he does against that one, and then graduate something like

1014
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 1: an in between fight before he gets to the very

1015
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: very very top guy in that weight class, whether he's

1016
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: a mandatory or not.

1017
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 2: I'm completely I mean, I love the idea of the

1018
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 2: Yugus fight from the beginning. But notice in the post

1019
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 2: fight interview and by the way, I do think because

1020
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 2: the level of hype equaling the fact that people were

1021
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,479
Speaker 2: booing him so hard. I mean, look that that's why

1022
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 2: he got boot. He got h I mean he got

1023
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 2: the ship boot out of him. Okay, I mean, I

1024
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 2: don't think it was a lack of effort of trying

1025
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: to get the finish. It just didn't happen. But you know, afterwards,

1026
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 2: I don't think that would have been the platform to

1027
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: make an aggressive call out to Spence, and he didn't,

1028
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 2: but he did leave open in saying that, like before,

1029
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 2: I'm willing to fight anybody that he would not be against.

1030
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: The winner of this fight that's recently delayed because of

1031
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 2: the was an emergency appendectomy too. I'm montis staniosis, but

1032
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 2: staniosis the Lithuanian product. Big win over Radjab Butayev has

1033
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 2: this has one of the secondary Walterwait titles. He's going

1034
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: to take on Virgil Ortiz Junior. Originally schedule for March,

1035
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 2: they pushed it back now with the appendectomy, but Virgil

1036
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,919
Speaker 2: Ortiz is under the Golden Boy banner with his own.

1037
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 2: But he's what eighteen and oer with eighteen KOs, you know.

1038
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: I mean he is power in both hands, aggressive Mexican

1039
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 2: American style or just pure Mexican style, walk you down

1040
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 2: and come after you and go to the body. What

1041
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: about Boots versus the winner of that fight, Luca, If

1042
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 2: if this chikadz In fight did anything for you, maybe

1043
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 2: it's let's slow our role just a little damn to

1044
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 2: me the winner of that fight. In terms of learning

1045
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: more about Boots, I'd be just as excited. But we

1046
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: could also go big. We could also go big and

1047
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 2: go Thurman, Crawford, Spence, whatever, because I don't think this

1048
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 2: is like, oh, you need to go back and really

1049
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,439
Speaker 2: work on your shit. Just didn't happen, Luke, it didn't

1050
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 2: happen on this night, Okay. And I get the fans

1051
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 2: bowing two, I get it all.

1052
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I mean most of that goes to Chukazan, right,

1053
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: he was the one who was he's boxing. He deserves

1054
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: credit for being a very strong defensive boxer, but that's

1055
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: not bringing the fight, so to speak to Ennis, and

1056
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: I think if the reality is booing, he should get

1057
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 1: a big credit for that. By the way, I'm looking

1058
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: at his record here, BC. Do you realize that in

1059
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, Boots fought fought nine times? Nine times he

1060
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: fought in twenty seventeen, and let's see, I'm looking at

1061
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 1: this only two times three times it went past the

1062
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: first round, once to the second round, once to the third,

1063
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: once to the force. This is the first time he

1064
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: went past the sixth So you know, again, he is

1065
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 1: very much I think it.

1066
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 2: Looks That's part of why I'm not gonna overcorrect and

1067
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 2: get too mad at him. I mean, he'd been destroying

1068
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 2: good names to the point where, yes, he could be

1069
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: at the point where he is now in a in

1070
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 2: an interim title bow, which is essentially a glorified number

1071
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 2: one contender's title bout right, and he'd never been past

1072
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: the sixth round. So what did he do? He doubled that,

1073
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 2: doubled the punch output, landed forty six percent of his

1074
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 2: power shots, and won every single round. Yeah, we're good here,

1075
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 2: but I would like him to be busier. I know

1076
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 2: he wants to, but it's been just waiting around. But

1077
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 2: I mean, do you think standiosis if he comes out

1078
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 2: of that Ortiz flight with that big hulking frame can

1079
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 2: get inside and go to the body against him. Or

1080
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 2: do you think Virgil Ortiz is a legitimate test of

1081
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 2: where of where Boots is? Right? Now? Do you like?

1082
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 2: Do you like that matchup?

1083
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 1: Again? Virgil Ortiz won a little bit better personally speaking.

1084
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: I just feel like Staniosis' style is like he might

1085
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: actually be able to do a little bit of something early. Dude,

1086
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: you open up against a guy like Boots like that

1087
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: and you're gonna get eaten alive. I mean, Chuka Zan

1088
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: survived because I'm not mad at him. He fucking boxed

1089
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: like Chuka Zon's a good boxer, but he ran right.

1090
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: He did the outside rotational thing. He did not ever

1091
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: stand in front, and that's smart, like you gotta do

1092
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: what you gotta do. But he didn't stand there and

1093
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: like bring the offense two boots. He kind of was

1094
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: very very selective about it. You bring the offense two

1095
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: boots and he I mean, the history has shown us

1096
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: he will assassinate you for that. So I don't know

1097
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: that I like that style. But the Virgil Artiz one

1098
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: is a little bit more interting because obviously he'll bring

1099
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: the offense as well. But I think it's a little

1100
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: bit more, a little bit trickier of the two. Love

1101
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: to see BC. Any other highlights from the card that

1102
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: you wanted to make note of here?

1103
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, are we allowed to say

1104
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 2: hashtag holy hammer for what we saw out of out

1105
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: of Venezuela's royman Villa, who had won his US debut

1106
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 2: on Showbox last September against an unvieting opponent. But then

1107
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 2: when in a legitimate step up against unbeaten speedy Rashidi Ellis,

1108
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 2: and you know, through about five rounds Luke, where Ellis

1109
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 2: won all five of the first rounds on all three

1110
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 2: score cards, I think we all have the effect of Wow,

1111
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 2: you know, he's not ready for this leap from showbox

1112
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 2: level to you know, somebody who sees himself as a

1113
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 2: title contender in a future Boots opponent in Rashidi Ellis.

1114
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 2: But dude, he never stopped trying to come forward and win.

1115
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 2: He never got completely reckless. But royman Via just kept

1116
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 2: coming with short power shots. I think that pressure pushed

1117
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 2: on the gas tank of Ellis and that finish that

1118
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 2: final round when he rallied to stop Ellis. I'm sorry,

1119
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 2: drop Ellis twice, which allowed him to come over the

1120
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 2: top and get sort of almost a surprise majority decision win.

1121
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 2: He doesn't win that without dropping him twice in the

1122
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 2: twelve the I mean, that was just some intense, exciting,

1123
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 2: dramatic can't believe I was in the arena, glad to

1124
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 2: have seen it. But dude, like, I don't know how

1125
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 2: far roymand Via can go. He got pieced up for

1126
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 2: the majority of this fight, but he's probably going to

1127
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 2: get a good and a rematch with Ellis. And he

1128
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 2: showed you at the very least that his scary individual

1129
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 2: and he does not stop fighting. I get my Donna

1130
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 2: vibes from him, Luke. They're not the same fighters offensively,

1131
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 2: but just that like, I'm not backing down. I am

1132
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 2: coming until I can come no more, Luke, And damn, dude,

1133
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 2: put this guy on your hashtag holy hammer list, Okay,

1134
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 2: because this was a monster step up against a legitimate

1135
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 2: talent and he got the win. And even though we

1136
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 2: may have been surprised that he didn't get screwed, or

1137
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 2: maybe you thought Ellis should have been up one round,

1138
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 2: but dude, he needed to hit, you know, he needed

1139
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 2: to hit a grand slam in the final inning and

1140
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 2: he did it twice, you know, I mean, it was crazy.

1141
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: It's amazing job by him. And to your point about

1142
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: my Donna, yeah, he's not quite my Donna, but like

1143
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: he's so reliable for consistent, hard nosed offense from the

1144
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: beginning of the first round to the end of the

1145
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 1: twelfth in your face, throwing punches with maximmon tent vicious

1146
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: to the body, great uppercuts as you can see here

1147
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: putting combinations together. He's very, very very hard to dislike.

1148
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: A lot of things good about him. And now again

1149
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: there's a question about his upside as well, fair enough,

1150
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: but in this night he did He waited as long

1151
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: as he basically possibly could to win. But he was

1152
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 1: patient enough, consistent enough, and when basically his style never

1153
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 1: dropped off through the course of twelve. It was ineffective

1154
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 1: at first, but it didn't really drop off. Ellis started

1155
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: off very high and just couldn't maintain. And then then

1156
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: when that switch happened, dude, Ellis had Ellis was trapped

1157
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: in there with Roy Monvia. So a phenomenal job by

1158
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,879
Speaker 1: him for me, b see the note for me that's

1159
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: kind of sad is. Obviously we had Boogle Andred win.

1160
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: But the thing I want to point out was for

1161
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 1: me Lamont Peterson actually made his return from retirement on

1162
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: the untelevised portion of the preliums card No BBBC, and

1163
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: I called it at six forty five. There were three

1164
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: fights on the pregums we did call. This was prior

1165
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: to that. Lama Peterson is one of the best boxers

1166
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: in DC history, certainly one of the more celebrated figures.

1167
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 1: He had a big fight against Amir Khan. Whether he

1168
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 1: won somewhat controversially, but he won it in twenty eleven,

1169
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 1: and he had some big fights but it all kind

1170
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: of came apart at the end. He had a fight

1171
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: against ERL. Spence and that was a big disaster for him.

1172
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: That was in twenty eighteen. He retired after about in

1173
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen with Sergei Libinitz at the MGM National Harbor.

1174
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 2: Which was a war. It was an war war.

1175
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 1: It was brutal and it was a I mean back

1176
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: to back. The Spence fight, he took a beating and

1177
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: then a libinits fight. It was rough and tumble, and

1178
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: then he retired in twenty nineteen. I thought that was

1179
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: a good time to close it all off. And he

1180
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: came back. I am told he had a falling out

1181
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: with his I guess adoptive father, and I don't know

1182
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: what their legal status is now, but I guess he

1183
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: and Anthony Peterson, his father or his brother, had a

1184
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: falling out with Barry Hunter. Barry Hunters, the head of

1185
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: the Headbangers GYM here in DC, but it was famously

1186
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 1: was his coach for a long time, pulled both boys

1187
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: out of foster care. They had a falling out, and

1188
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 1: I'm not sure who was cornering him here. Lamont Peterson

1189
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: fought Michael Gundo, who is a sixteen and sixteen journeyman

1190
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 1: basically and stopped Lamont Peterson in the fourth and BC.

1191
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: If you just look at Peterson's physique, he looked to

1192
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: be in like really great shape physically, like he clearly

1193
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: had trained, He clearly had dieted. He did all the

1194
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: road work like all that was great, dude. He looked brittle.

1195
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, this brittle. This had you know, Ortez Liddel three vibes.

1196
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:24,879
Speaker 2: It was really sad to see. He fought a forty

1197
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 2: year old opponent with a five hundred record, as you mentioned,

1198
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 2: and as soon as clean punches started landing, and they weren't.

1199
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 2: I mean, look they were arm punches. They were wild

1200
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 2: arm punches, and those were enough to badly wobble Laman.

1201
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 2: And you know, look when the chin goes, it goes.

1202
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: Luke.

1203
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 2: He's had a great career. He tried once more. But

1204
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 2: it's about as sad as it gets in this game.

1205
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 2: I mean, it gets sad or unfortunately, but that's pretty sad,

1206
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 2: you know.

1207
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it definitely gets worse. But for a guy who

1208
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: I was there that night he beat Conn. It was

1209
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: at the convention Center. I remember when they announced his

1210
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: name and then the place he erupted. I remember all

1211
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: the media tours. I remember all of that very very

1212
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: very very vividly. To go from that to this is like, I.

1213
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 2: Don't want to rain on your DC parade. And that

1214
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 2: con fight was was dramatic and fun as shit. But

1215
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 2: I do want to remind the world of a couple

1216
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 2: of things. One I here, Con won that fight and

1217
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 2: got screwed on the scorecards too. Peterson punched below the

1218
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 2: belt routinely and did not get in.

1219
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: Trouble for first part, but I grew with the second part.

1220
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 2: Yeh three, there was a big conspiracy about the man

1221
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 2: in the black hat at ringside that con started. I

1222
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 2: don't know about that before Lamont just depositive for PDS.

1223
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:34,360
Speaker 2: After that fight, and they didn't change it to a

1224
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 2: no contest. He kept that win, so you know, he

1225
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 2: he showed it.

1226
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: Have a doctor. I think he did have a doctor's

1227
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: prescription for it.

1228
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 2: But to your point, yes, yeah, he showed a next

1229
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 2: level willingness to go in the trenches in that fight

1230
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 2: and it worked out for him. But let's not I

1231
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 2: don't want to rewrite history completely.

1232
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: All right. Yeah, we're not gonna rerite history. You're not

1233
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: going to change what that meant for me, you know

1234
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You're not going to do that.

1235
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 2: But anyway, okay, but PostScript on your city, Luke, And

1236
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 2: now this is my second helping in a year. I'm

1237
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 2: really liking DC. I'm really I mean, I mean, look,

1238
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 2: the architecture, the history, the culture. You know, could you

1239
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 2: find service workers with a more polite attitude and maybe

1240
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 2: you know, two waters and two coffees don't cost forty dollars. Look,

1241
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 2: I'd love to see some of those changes. Echoing the

1242
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 2: same complaints from my family vacation last year. But BC

1243
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 2: and DC, I'd like to see that happen more often.

1244
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 2: All right.

1245
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 1: BC can't quite comprehend how he can go to the

1246
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: Starbucks regale the baristas with his charming humor and them

1247
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: not find it charming. He's like, well, I mean, look,

1248
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: they don't sell. They all have such sour attitudes. You

1249
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: sure it's them? Sure?

1250
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 2: No selling begins when I say hi, okay, and it

1251
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 2: does carry through my you know, hello, my baby. Hell,

1252
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 2: you know it carries all the way through that.

1253
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's go to point number four. Let's

1254
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: talk about some Mma here, because we did actually have

1255
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: some big news even though we didn't have some big fights.

1256
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: This one, to me, I guess surprising, not surprising, right,

1257
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: Like it caught you off guard. But then when you

1258
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: think about it, you're like, well, I guess it kind

1259
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: of makes sense. Habib Demergamadev took to Instagram to announce

1260
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: that he's basically leaving Mma entirely. What he said was,

1261
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: and there was a translation from a caption written in

1262
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: Russian quote, the year certainly turned out to be very

1263
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: busy and successful. Take care of yourself, brothers. I hope

1264
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: my decision is only for the best. A big hug

1265
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: to you all. He apparently wants to step away, not

1266
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: of course he's already retired as a fighter, but he

1267
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: wants to step away from any kind of promotion around

1268
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: Eagle FC as well as coaching. That. We don't know

1269
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: what that means for Islam Makachev and his upcoming about

1270
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: again at UFC two eighty four. I believe against Alexander Volkanowski.

1271
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: In fact, David Martin of MMA Fighting BC says sources

1272
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 1: close to Nemergramdev speaking to M Fighting confirmed at the

1273
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: thirty four year old Augistani native will be quote taking

1274
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: some time off for his family end quote. But that

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00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily signal he's leaving coaching behind forever. A source

1276
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: stated Mergraam Madoff quote never knows what may happen in

1277
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: the future. I'm gonna guess that sources Ali. I don't

1278
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: know that, but I'm going to get that BC. But

1279
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: he could be gone, and he could be gone for

1280
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: some time, maybe permanently. Your reaction to Nimergamadev essentially saying

1281
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: I've had enough of MMA for at least a good

1282
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: little while.

1283
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 2: It only continues the amount of respect I have for Habib,

1284
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 2: the person Habib the athlete, and you know, is he perfect?

1285
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 2: Can we dig up some things? You could on everybody?

1286
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 2: And the more we dig in this sport, unfortunately, the

1287
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 2: darker it sometimes becomes. But I've always loved this guy.

1288
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 2: And to see the quotes, I think Kevin Ioli was

1289
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 2: the one who caught up with Javier Mendez on Yahoo

1290
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 2: Sports and Javier said, look, it comes down to Habib

1291
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 2: as a dad. He's got three young kids, He's away

1292
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 2: constantly in training camps, promoting his his you know all that.

1293
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,919
Speaker 2: I mean, look he does. You do seem to see

1294
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 2: him everywhere, Luke, I mean, look, he walked away on

1295
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 2: top as the pomp for pound king, undefeated, right, you know,

1296
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 2: coming off of the counterfeight more or less with where

1297
00:59:56,320 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 2: his brand was just knic global level was just next level.

1298
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 2: And he walked away as a promise to his parents.

1299
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 2: And while it was extremely noble to see him carry

1300
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 2: on in his late father Abdulman apps, you know lineage.

1301
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 2: You know, along with Javier Mendez and a lot of

1302
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 2: the same fighters go to Aka and all that in California.

1303
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 2: But to show you that damn like carrying on the

1304
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 2: father's business and proving to be as great a coach

1305
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 2: as he is a fighter in the short window that

1306
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 2: we've seen. But now to say no, family always was

1307
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 2: and still is most important to me. I mean, it's

1308
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 2: so rare in this game when somebody's able to author

1309
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 2: the end of their combat story and do it on

1310
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 2: their own terms. And we I mean, I could never

1311
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 2: but do nothing but applaud people who say, yeah, I

1312
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 2: think I'm done, even when we look at them at

1313
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 2: their age and what they have left and go, oh, man,

1314
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 2: I still want to see this and this and this,

1315
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 2: and now he's done that in coaching, which you could

1316
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 2: get the you know, you get you get the picture

1317
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 2: that he could just drop everything and just be a

1318
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 2: full time coach and and you know, stay on where

1319
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 2: he's going and keep being that legend and keep find

1320
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:02,959
Speaker 2: a new young talent and grooming them up. But Luke

1321
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 2: not to change this over into a life talk. But

1322
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 2: you do only get those those kids of your own

1323
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 2: for so long, and you do only have such a

1324
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 2: short window. And we may not travel as much as

1325
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 2: a bee, but you and I travel too, and go

1326
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 2: through that same battle that a lot of people do,

1327
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 2: of pushing your own career in this direction. For financial

1328
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 2: you know, freedom and fame and all that, or taking

1329
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 2: care of what at the end of the day is

1330
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 2: more important. So yeah, I applaud you. It'd be for

1331
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 2: being a man. And I don't think that means he's done.

1332
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 2: I think we'll see him again, and he's probably always

1333
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 2: going to be a mentor to all of these guys,

1334
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 2: and maybe he does complete the task and go show

1335
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 2: up in Perth with Mahchev, although, as Javier Mendez said

1336
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 2: himself to Ioli, that's still, you know, not certain up

1337
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 2: to this point. But I love this guy, Luke. When

1338
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 2: I look at somebody who represents the sport to me,

1339
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 2: it's a Bib de magametof And this sport's got a

1340
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 2: lot of shady characters, okay, but I love the well,

1341
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 2: I love what he stands for at.

1342
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 1: The end of the day, I kinda tell you, like I,

1343
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: Obviously we don't live Habib's life. We have no idea

1344
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: what it's like to be as globally famous. Obviously, he's

1345
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: an icon for many different communities, including his own. In

1346
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 1: the In the Muslim world, he's a he's a big

1347
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 1: star there as well. In Russia he's a big star.

1348
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: Held in the United States. He's a fucking huge star.

1349
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 1: You know, he's a big star everywhere. He's made a

1350
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 1: lot of money, not just from his fight. I actually

1351
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 1: I would say he's probably be more outside of Fine

1352
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: than he has with fighting. But certainly he's done well

1353
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: for himself. If you've got three children, i'd stop too,

1354
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 1: right b C. I hate to admit this, but if

1355
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 1: you won the lottery and you won one hundred million dollars,

1356
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're gonna you would be here

1357
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: for Wednesday show, you know what I mean, Like you

1358
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: would just go do something. And your children a little

1359
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 1: bit older than mine, but my daughter's three, like you know,

1360
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: and I will say this too. I mean, I don't

1361
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: get me wrong, Please please do somethe don't misunderstand me.

1362
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: Like we're going to London next month and you know,

1363
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 1: you guys had to travel down Here was a home

1364
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: game for me, but it was essentially you know, the

1365
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 1: road crew all over again. I'm so grateful for these opportunities.

1366
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: They've been what I've been wanting for so long. But

1367
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: it does sort of it has dawned on me, like

1368
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: I don't love the fact that when I was single

1369
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: and had no one waiting for me at home. I

1370
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 1: spent all those years working here, and now that I

1371
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: do have a wife and a kid waiting for me,

1372
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 1: I'm now on the road much more than I ever

1373
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: was before. And you know, I wish I could have

1374
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 1: that reversed. I wish it wasn't necessarily that case, but

1375
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: that's just not the life that we have, and so

1376
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 1: you have to roll with it onwards. But if you're

1377
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 1: Habib and you've already won the title, you've fulfilled your

1378
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 1: promise to your mother, and then you're retired, and then

1379
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: you shepherded it to make sure that the next in

1380
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 1: line in your own inner circle, so to speak, with

1381
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 1: Islam Makachev, you made sure that he got the title,

1382
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 1: and now you want to spend time with your kids

1383
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: and you're financially successful. I totally get it. I completely

1384
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 1: support it. I understand it at least on some level. Anyway.

1385
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 1: I think it's the probably the right call. I got

1386
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: one piece of advice when I became a dad, and

1387
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: it's really rung true. And BC you know this as well,

1388
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: which is man, your kids childhood goes fast, fast, so

1389
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 1: much faster than you realize. One moment they're not walking

1390
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 1: than they are, and then they can dress themselves, and

1391
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: now they can make complete sentences, and they can run

1392
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 1: and play and climb, and they can talk to you

1393
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 1: and they have ideas and it just goes so quickly.

1394
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 1: The more you miss that, you don't you don't get

1395
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: any of that time back. It doesn't ever circle back

1396
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 1: around again. You miss those, you're done, And so for me,

1397
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 1: I really understand it. What I would say though, is

1398
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: I do wonder what kind of impact it will have

1399
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: on that team. Do they have the other resources in

1400
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: place to make sure that they know they know what

1401
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:37,880
Speaker 1: Habib would want, but does he as a figure have

1402
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 1: to be there to make sure that it works. That

1403
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 1: part we don't know.

1404
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 2: It's like, the good news is Javia Mendez is there

1405
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 2: with an all star gym that produces champions and has

1406
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 2: always sort of been there behind Habib and helping these

1407
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 2: guys and not always maybe get in the full credit.

1408
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 2: So that's great, But you're right when we do hear

1409
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,919
Speaker 2: details of people who have trained with Abibe or gone

1410
01:04:57,960 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 2: in and witning it like they're like, you know, it's

1411
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 2: it's it's a drill sergeant out there who demands a

1412
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 2: next level work ethic and approach. So can that be replicated?

1413
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 2: Probably not, But you know, I'm sure from a strategical standpoint,

1414
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 2: he's still going to be there in a lot of

1415
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 2: people's lives and is still going to be available. But

1416
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, like looke, how many people could have

1417
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 2: been courted by Dana White that many times when he

1418
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 2: was a retired fighter who wanted to stay retired, and

1419
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 2: Dana went on that six month campaign of like, well

1420
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 2: he's not like like really retired. Like, hold on, I

1421
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 2: got dinner with him coming up again? Did you just

1422
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 2: have dinner with him like three times in less pretty much? Yeah,

1423
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 2: I got another dinner with him planned again, and this

1424
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 2: time we're bringing the whole Brinks truck in there, We're

1425
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 2: backing it in. I mean, he walked away from that.

1426
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 2: It's wild, Luke, that's wild, and this is just another

1427
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 2: step in that direction to me. So respect, respect all

1428
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,439
Speaker 2: the way, but uh, yeah, let's see if yeah, let's

1429
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 2: see if everybody can carry on on the same level.

1430
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot of people in his family,

1431
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 2: there's a lot of people in his extended circle that

1432
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 2: look to be next right now coming on in this game.

1433
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, we'll see, Luke. But I think he made

1434
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 2: the right choice because look, think about it, they're in

1435
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:06,959
Speaker 2: your house for such your children, they're in your house

1436
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 2: for such a short period, but then they're in their

1437
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 2: life for the rest. And that's an extreme. You know,

1438
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 2: when all things go right, it's a it's a much

1439
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 2: longer time. I mean, you want to be friends with

1440
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 2: them during that stretch. You want them to still come

1441
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 2: to you. You want to still have that relationship that

1442
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 2: can only be built now. And I don't always get

1443
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 2: it right, Luke, but I do always remember that showing

1444
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,959
Speaker 2: up is ninety percent of it, you know what I'm saying.

1445
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 2: Showing up with a smile and a kind encouraging word

1446
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 2: and a little lesson there and there. I mean, uh,

1447
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 2: that is what this is all about, Luke. There's the

1448
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 2: you can win a lot of MMA podcast awards, Luke,

1449
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 2: but Touki Thomas, that's that's the only that's the only

1450
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 2: measuring stick I've got to whether you or whether you've

1451
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 2: added anything to this world and so far, Luke, congratulations.

1452
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah. I tell my daughter she's beautiful and intelligent

1453
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 1: every night before she goes to sleep, every single night,

1454
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 1: every single night, I want her to understand that that's

1455
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 1: that's the truth about her. I think she will. But

1456
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 1: you're right, when I'm not here, I have to just

1457
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: you literally just have to be there, like you don't

1458
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 1: have to be like the A plus dad every time.

1459
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: Half of the problems, shit, most of the problems just

1460
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 1: show up.

1461
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 2: Just be there, right, Yeah, And you know when I'm

1462
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 2: not here, Reggie Jackson, the cat screams at the top

1463
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 2: of his lungs all day for me.

1464
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: I bet he does.

1465
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 2: All right, Moussey, take that guy on the road. Imagine

1466
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 2: if I became that guy.

1467
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 1: Luke dude. Okay, So it's funny you mentioned that. So

1468
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 1: I grew up on the further on the east side

1469
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: of town, and there's this park there called Lincoln Park,

1470
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 1: and I took my daughter back there because when I

1471
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: was a kid, that's where you got stabbed and mugged

1472
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 1: and shit. So we go and play there during daylight hours.

1473
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:42,439
Speaker 1: Now it's you know, picnics and labradoodles and shit, because

1474
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 1: the city's completely changed. But so I took her there

1475
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 1: because it's now nice. And we saw I'm not doing

1476
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 1: a bit here. We saw this lady with a backpack

1477
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 1: and in the backpack, there was a cat and then

1478
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 1: the top of the backpack had like this like this

1479
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 1: old school I'm going underwater helmet. You know what I mean?

1480
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 2: That backpack, Luke, I own that back dude.

1481
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 1: She was walking her fucking cat. That's you.

1482
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, only one of my three cats is willing to

1483
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 2: go in the bubble. Reggie. You know, he'll kill me

1484
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 2: to get out of that backpack, So it doesn't work

1485
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 2: with him. I tried to take him on a leash

1486
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 2: around the neighborhood and he got out of the leash.

1487
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 2: I mean, it was almost a disaster.

1488
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 1: So I've done the leash bit with the cats. You

1489
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 1: can't put the you can't put the collar on him.

1490
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 1: You got to put the harness, the harness thing that

1491
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 1: they can't quite squirm out of as easily. All right,

1492
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: you see point number five, and then we'll wrap here

1493
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 1: for our top five MMA. It's back, ladies and gentlemen.

1494
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 1: I know that you have been missing it. We of

1495
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 1: course have been missing it, even though we've been enjoying

1496
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:41,280
Speaker 1: covering some boxing. So you've got one this weekend which

1497
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 1: folks are just not talking about. Very surprised by that.

1498
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 1: One on Prime Video six is going to be this

1499
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 1: week I think this Friday. Then on top of that,

1500
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna have UFC Fight Night MFOV versus Gas Limit.

1501
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: I think LFA is there as well. BC. You can

1502
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 1: go first. Which about are you most looking forward to

1503
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 1: this weekend? And why?

1504
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 2: You know, Luke, everybody's got different likes in their eyes.

1505
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 2: People they'll forgive and give nine lives to. You know,

1506
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 2: there's a good portion of the CBS Sports MMA editorial

1507
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 2: team who probably hate me because you know, I still

1508
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 2: think Kelvin Gastolov's got something left in the tank, Luke,

1509
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 2: And maybe I always will. Maybe I always will. And

1510
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 2: you know, he fought like a champion and defeat against

1511
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 2: Adasania dude, against Whitaker, you know he brought I mean, look,

1512
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:32,679
Speaker 2: he brought it, Luke. He's gotten close. He's also put

1513
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 2: together a lot of defeats against some very big names

1514
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 2: and he's still just thirty one. But you look at

1515
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 2: the most recent stretch and it's one win, five defeats.

1516
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 2: I thought he's entered sort of a make or break,

1517
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 2: must win sort of situation before, and he survived. And

1518
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 2: he does tend to show out against very good competition.

1519
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 2: As I mentioned, but Luke, this main event against nasa

1520
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 2: Ordine Imovov, who's on a very good stretch of his own.

1521
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 2: I mean, those last three victories to get to the

1522
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 2: level absolutely legit. I wonder if it's really this time,

1523
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 2: now or never for Gastolum and I expect him to

1524
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 2: absolutely bring it, Luke, but we have seen him have

1525
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 2: incredible training camps and say the right things before, only

1526
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 2: to get you know, absolutely subbed out by jack Er

1527
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 2: Manson in less than two minutes. And you know, I

1528
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:24,759
Speaker 2: don't know if I ever told you, Luke, but UFC

1529
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,240
Speaker 2: two thirty six, the comin event, I was there in

1530
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 2: the press row with an orange orange pullover, and I

1531
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 2: know how great this guy can be. But you know,

1532
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to give up the gag and the

1533
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 2: routine too. Is this just let's give imimov the biggest

1534
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 2: name he's had yet and find out if nas Ardine

1535
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 2: is truly ready to take on you know, top five,

1536
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 2: top seven guys, or is this the last stand for

1537
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 2: one of the last remaining cowboys in this game, Kelvin

1538
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 2: Gastolom Luke. That's got me tuned in from MUSS CTV

1539
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 2: on Saturday. I don't I don't assume you agree with

1540
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 2: anything I just said. But let me ask you then,

1541
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 2: is it is it win or go home? Here for Gastlum, it's.

1542
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 1: A little bit. It's a little bit. I mean, Imovov

1543
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 1: is on a nice wind streak. He's got wins over Ian,

1544
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 1: Heiness Shabazian and then his last one Joaquin Buckley. Now

1545
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:15,680
Speaker 1: that one got a little bit dicey for him at

1546
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 1: the end, but in general he was doing really well

1547
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 1: in it, and of course he gets the dub. You know,

1548
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 1: this is a guy who you would have thought, like

1549
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 1: Kelvin Gastolim at his peak, would easily or you know,

1550
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 1: would you know, comfortably, let's say, beat this guy. But

1551
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 1: we don't really know where Kelvin Gastolim is. We don't

1552
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 1: really know exactly what's happening. Obviously, he has already left

1553
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 1: kings MMA and had a fight underneath the new banner

1554
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 1: he's in I think with Arizona Fight Sports if I'm

1555
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 1: not mistaken. But you know, so he's still working some

1556
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 1: things out, and I applaud him trying to switch it

1557
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 1: up and figure out what's best for him. Like, I

1558
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 1: don't think any of those were mistakes necessarily he needed

1559
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 1: to do something different. Perhaps that was it, But dude, like,

1560
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 1: if you're gonna make a move, man, you think now,

1561
01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 1: right now, right now is the time we have seen

1562
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: him do well, we have seen him do poorly. The

1563
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 1: question is could a change bring him back to that glory.

1564
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 1: If this change doesn't, it's really hard to know what

1565
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 1: would unless he's able to go back to one seventy.

1566
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 1: But of course all the weight cutting issues around that

1567
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 1: make us think that's probably not a great idea either.

1568
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 1: In other words, man, it's gonna be hard to call

1569
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 1: any single bout make or break. There are occasions in

1570
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 1: fight sports where that can be the case. I don't

1571
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 1: know that this would be that case, but it's very close,

1572
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 1: I mean to make a break.

1573
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 2: Although he was never a champion, if he loses here,

1574
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 2: this would be a big rig level of just like, wow,

1575
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 2: it's over. Where did it all go? Johnny Hendrix Like,

1576
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 2: just like a dude, you were just the champion and

1577
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 2: now it's over, right, I mean, it would be you know,

1578
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 2: maybe people don't ever think of gaslam on the same

1579
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 2: level I have in rare spots, but you know, this

1580
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 2: would be a monster. A guy who's thirty one who

1581
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 2: probably would get big free agent offers outside of this.

1582
01:12:56,320 --> 01:13:00,799
Speaker 2: But damn, and look, this is not an easy fight, dude, Amovov.

1583
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 2: And we're seeing the pictures against that Buckley fight, which

1584
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 2: was wild and Buckley kept pouring it on late. But

1585
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, he's he's going in there against the Shabazians,

1586
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 2: against that level of god. I mean, who do they stop?

1587
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 2: Before that was he and Highness before that, the only

1588
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 2: loss in the UFC was the majority of the decision

1589
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 2: to Phil Hawes. This is a guy who's putting it together,

1590
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,520
Speaker 2: and you know he doesn't always get that same Dagastan

1591
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:22,799
Speaker 2: holy hammer. Let me grab it out of the cupboard

1592
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 2: claim because he grew up in France, But you know,

1593
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,640
Speaker 2: Imovov is from Dagistan, Luke, and you could take the

1594
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 2: boy out of the factory, so to speak. You know

1595
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But you can't remove his hammer.

1596
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 1: You can't remove his hammer, Luke bc uh. Gastolm hasn't

1597
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 1: had back to back wins since twenty seventeen. Twenty eighteen

1598
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 1: when he beat Michael Bisping, who's coming off that terrible Well,

1599
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 1: it was a great fight against Saint Pierre, but that's

1600
01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 1: not a real win.

1601
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 2: I give that win as much credit as I give

1602
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:53,800
Speaker 2: Sterling over Dillashaw Luke. Seriously, his pictureld not have been

1603
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 2: in that fight.

1604
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 1: That's fine, that's fine. I agree with that. He shouldn't

1605
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 1: taken that fight. He was terrible for him. And then

1606
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 1: he beat Jackaray split decision, but he got the job done,

1607
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 1: and that put him in the position to get the

1608
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 1: Robert Whittaker fight, but then that fell through. So then

1609
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 1: he had the interim against is he great fight, but

1610
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 1: he lost. Then he loses split to tail. Then he

1611
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 1: just gets run over by Jack Hermanson. Rebounds with a

1612
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 1: nice win over Ian Heinisch but wasn't a stoppage, then

1613
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 1: loses to Robert Whittaker, then loses to Jared Kennanear was

1614
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 1: supposed to fight Imavov before and Triggus Duplessi. That's both

1615
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 1: fell through and now he's back around with Imovov. This

1616
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 1: is a this would be if he loses this, that

1617
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:31,639
Speaker 1: would mean he won one of his last let's see three, six, seven,

1618
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 1: he would be one in seven or one in six

1619
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 1: of his life.

1620
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 2: Would you agree? It's crazy ability wise and game planning,

1621
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:41,640
Speaker 2: and sometimes I think his game planning has been inconsistent.

1622
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 2: Sometimes he puts himself into damage too easily and all that.

1623
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 2: But you would admit he's not only, you know, better

1624
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 2: than his recent record, way better, right?

1625
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 1: Would I agree that Gaslim is way better than his record? No?

1626
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 1: I think he's better than his record. I don't know

1627
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 1: if he's way better.

1628
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 2: All right, Well, Luke, I'm gonna give up the ghost

1629
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:00,560
Speaker 2: if he loses this one, and by the way, he

1630
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 2: might do you have the odds in front of you.

1631
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 2: I'm interested to see how how vegas.

1632
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:05,600
Speaker 1: I can tell you. Just give me a second.

1633
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,719
Speaker 2: I'm pulling him, all right, I've got it right here.

1634
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 2: Minus two twenty are friends at Caesars minus two twenty

1635
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 2: Imovov plus one eighty Gaslam. So they are showing up

1636
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 2: in respect, Luke, How good is Imovov? Because, Uh, that

1637
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:22,600
Speaker 2: three fight win streak has been very escalatory, but that

1638
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 2: was a tough fight against new Manza who who you know,

1639
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 2: used every ounce of potential explosive power, punching ability he

1640
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 2: had up until the final second. How good's this guy,

1641
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 2: nas Ordine?

1642
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 1: Uh, he's good, but like if you look at all

1643
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 1: the guys, he's beaten highness as good as got good

1644
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 1: cardio and that was that's probably one of his better wins,

1645
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 1: to be quite honest with you, the Shabazi and win.

1646
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 1: Not sure what to make of it. You know, Shabazian

1647
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 1: is of either he's shining or he's falling apart. I

1648
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 1: think I think the move to Vegas is doing him

1649
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 1: some wonders. But you know what I'm talking about. And

1650
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 1: Buckley was kind of run over early. But then Serge late,

1651
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 1: I think there's some questions about Imavov. He's clearly well rounded.

1652
01:15:58,600 --> 01:15:59,840
Speaker 1: He comes from one of the best teams in all

1653
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 1: of France. I mean, he's very very good. He's very

1654
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: well rounded. He can he can do a lot of

1655
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 1: different things. I'd say he's probably a little bit actually,

1656
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure if I agree with that. But

1657
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 1: Gastolum again, the version of Gaslim who fought Izzy would

1658
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 1: beat im Avov. But what version are we going to get?

1659
01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:21,640
Speaker 1: I simply not know. I don't know. Now, sticking with

1660
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 1: that card, BC, sticking with that card, I'm actually, by

1661
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 1: the way, there's a lot of decent fights on this card.

1662
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 1: Kevin Ravers, Rakuel Pennington's a great fight. Speaking of NUMBERA, Madov,

1663
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,920
Speaker 1: Umar Nimerga Madoff, who's undefeated, taken on Hyoni Barcelos. That

1664
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 1: should be a lot of fun. But the one I've

1665
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:40,640
Speaker 1: got my eye on BC it's undefeated versus undefeated, two

1666
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 1: guys in their twenties, top prospects, not yet contenders, but

1667
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 1: everything they've shown us has been amazing. Matteous Mendoza out

1668
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:51,639
Speaker 1: of Brazil taken on Javid Basharat out of Afghanistan. Obviously

1669
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 1: he fights now out of Extreme Coutur. Jake Shields is

1670
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 1: one of his coaches. Two undefeated guys ten and Oh

1671
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 1: from Vendoza thirteen and oh from Basharot, both coming off

1672
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 1: the Contender Series. Mendoza had a just and amazing win

1673
01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:07,600
Speaker 1: over Ashikh a Gym in his last fight, which was

1674
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 1: the Contender Series one to get into this one, and

1675
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 1: Javid Basharat has looked very good through the UFC, his

1676
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 1: last one over Tony Gravely, which was a decision both guys.

1677
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:17,680
Speaker 1: I would say, here's the thing I want. I'll say

1678
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 1: the reason why I like it is because two guys

1679
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:22,879
Speaker 1: in their twenties undefeated. Someone Zoe's got to go, great camps,

1680
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 1: good athletes, they can do a lot of different things.

1681
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 1: Basharaz to me is the more well rounded of the two.

1682
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 1: Mendosa the slightly more dangerous of the two in terms

1683
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 1: of like punching power and his ability to make reads

1684
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 1: and adjustments. He just seems like a little bit quicker

1685
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:40,600
Speaker 1: in that regard. But Javid Basharat can do anything everything

1686
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 1: he's good at, plus he has good cardio. This fight

1687
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 1: should be very fun and frankly, I'm almost surprised that

1688
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 1: they made it because I kind of thought that these

1689
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:51,600
Speaker 1: two guys would be on their own path of like

1690
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 1: separate contenders, and then they'll fight when they're separate prospects,

1691
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 1: I should say, and then they'll fight at the top

1692
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 1: when they're eventually both reach it. But they're gonna have

1693
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 1: a match up now. This is one to watch and

1694
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 1: it's hard to know exactly what might happen. Basha rob

1695
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 1: with a little bit more experience and again I would

1696
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 1: say more well rounded, but Mendoza is a handful and

1697
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 1: this one should be very fun.

1698
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 2: And Luke, you want a banger, how about uh Hunlehi

1699
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 2: Soriano against Roman Copy Lovell. That'll be worth your time

1700
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 2: and investment right there.

1701
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 1: So, and people are going to complain that this is

1702
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 1: the co main event because like should this fight be

1703
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 1: a co main event, you know, probably not, but as

1704
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 1: just a good fight or a bad fight, it's a

1705
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 1: good one. Dan Ega taken on Damon Jackson. Damon Jackson

1706
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 1: has totally I would say, reformed his career and has

1707
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,720
Speaker 1: had a great surge of late. Dan Egay had a

1708
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 1: strong surge about a year or two ago and is

1709
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 1: now looking to reclaim some of the lost space that

1710
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 1: he has suffered as a consequence of some losses against

1711
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 1: very tough guys on a Calvncator and many others. So

1712
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 1: this is a really well match.

1713
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 2: Does he Gay? Does he Gay survive the potential of

1714
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 2: a fourth straight defeat here?

1715
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 1: He could? I think if he really goes for it,

1716
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:05,920
Speaker 1: he could. And by the way, Damon Jackson is not

1717
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 1: gonna like you know, he's not gonna do the chu

1718
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 1: Kazan bit where he just jabs in circles. I mean

1719
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:13,600
Speaker 1: he is an in your face, lock up on the

1720
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 1: wrestling kind of terms, which Dan Egay is would be.

1721
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 1: You would think might like some of that. I think

1722
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 1: Ega would probably prefer to strike in this contest, but

1723
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 1: he is a black belt in jiu jitsu. By the way,

1724
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 1: I would say Egay is also fought overall better guys

1725
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 1: than Damon Jackson, but that's still sort of the whole point.

1726
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 1: Damon's trying to get to the place that EGA used

1727
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 1: to be. Egay wants to get back there, and he's

1728
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 1: gotta beat the guy who's surging. He kind of gotta

1729
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:38,639
Speaker 1: like that one a lot. And also reb Dul Razak

1730
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,719
Speaker 1: al Hassen, who is you know, just a complete knockout artist.

1731
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 1: He's on this card as well. Jimmy Flick is back

1732
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 1: against Charles Johnson. There should be a fun little card BCEE.

1733
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 2: Look before we get into what one has to offer.

1734
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 2: And there's obviously some sad news linked to that as

1735
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:55,760
Speaker 2: well in the news cycle. You know, I don't know

1736
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 2: if you can call this a super sloppy special because

1737
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 2: it doesn't necessarily fit into that category. But is it

1738
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 2: a b C special? Did you see that fight that

1739
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:03,640
Speaker 2: the UFC book for February?

1740
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Oh the tatianarez about Yeah, women way

1741
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 1: rosa correct.

1742
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, we've been you know, call it's going to

1743
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 2: go down February twenty fifth, uh UFC Vegas seventy. I

1744
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 2: don't know the location there, but Luke, we've been wanting

1745
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 2: Tatian Suarez has been constantly in and out of the

1746
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 2: lineup with injuries to arrive here at one twenty five

1747
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:29,839
Speaker 2: and find out do we have another future title contending

1748
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:34,559
Speaker 2: name to add to this suddenly growing group behind Valentina's

1749
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 2: a good matchup here. Manteo Dale Ross is coming off

1750
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 2: of defeat Luke, but she's still kind of putting her

1751
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 2: game together in motion here. This is a really good

1752
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 2: test to find out exactly where Suarez is because you

1753
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 2: can only carry that dark horse title contender, you know,

1754
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 2: reputation for for so long. And it's not her fault

1755
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 2: with the injuries. But it's time now, It's time to

1756
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:56,679
Speaker 2: go here at one twenty five. So dude, I'm looking

1757
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 2: forward to that one big time.

1758
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that should be really fun and all. So we

1759
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,599
Speaker 1: should talk about one now. One has a card one

1760
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:05,759
Speaker 1: on Prime Video six. This is gonna be on Prime.

1761
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 1: This is this is what I mean about about one.

1762
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:09,920
Speaker 1: This is like the Blessing and the curse of one. Right,

1763
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:13,000
Speaker 1: the blessing is and I've said this before, They've got

1764
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 1: the most unique product outside of the UFC because they

1765
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 1: do muay Thai with four ounce gloves and they also

1766
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 1: do kickboxing. And by the way, also on this card

1767
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 1: is Mikey Musumechi who's going to be having a pro

1768
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:26,759
Speaker 1: grappling contest. So they've got all of this weird fun stuff.

1769
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:28,719
Speaker 1: They have a different rule set, they have a different

1770
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 1: scoring system. I mean, they've got they've got a lot

1771
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,480
Speaker 1: of different things going on which really sets them apart.

1772
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 1: And that's great, that's a good thing. But the problem

1773
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 1: is they have largely appealed to a market outside of

1774
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 1: our own, with a lot of names that come from

1775
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 1: outside of our own. I don't know if American fans

1776
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 1: are going to be ready for a main event between

1777
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 1: Superbond and Hinghi's Alazov or Alazov. And I'm told if

1778
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 1: on the kickboxing audience, this is excuse me, yes, from

1779
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 1: the kickboxing audience, that these two are just the bee's knees.

1780
01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 1: This is a tremendous contest. I'm happy to leave that.

1781
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:02,720
Speaker 1: It's just that's going to be a difficult sell on

1782
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 1: a Friday night to the American audience, right, Yes, I

1783
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 1: think that's not unfair to say. And there is some

1784
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 1: tragic news BC related to a death on the one roster.

1785
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 1: What can you tell us about that?

1786
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, we know the Lee family and MMA has been

1787
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:23,719
Speaker 2: the first family of sorts for one Championship, from Angela

1788
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 2: Lee to Christian Lee World champions But their younger sister,

1789
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 2: Luke so Young just three and oh Victoria Lee just

1790
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 2: eighteen years old, right from Hawaii, had just begun to

1791
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 2: carry on in the family's lineage there under the one

1792
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 2: Championship banner, considered a prodigy, but passes away. We don't

1793
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 2: know the story in terms of the cause or anything

1794
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 2: like that, but her older sister kind of broke it

1795
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 2: to the world, man, I mean, so we know more

1796
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 2: of the story. It's hard to react in many ways

1797
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:58,520
Speaker 2: beyond just being very upset of a talented, young, exciting,

1798
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 2: passionate mixed martial artist who is you know, looking to

1799
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 2: do some big things and we only got to see

1800
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:08,719
Speaker 2: it her three times at the pro level here. But man, dude,

1801
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 2: gone too soon doesn't begin it. Luke eighteen years old,

1802
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 2: part of a fighting family. It's really sad news to

1803
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 2: try to take down here to start.

1804
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 1: The week, no doubt about it. I don't know what

1805
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 1: else to say about it. There was no cause of

1806
01:23:21,320 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 1: death revealed. Who knows Angela Lee and her post on

1807
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 1: Instagram just said to you know, if you got to

1808
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:29,599
Speaker 1: love one, hug them tonight, which is yeah. People want

1809
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 1: to read into that and say, like, does it mean

1810
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 1: That's something I'm not going to speculate, but I'm just

1811
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 1: going to say that it's terrible. We send our deepest

1812
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: condolences to the Lee family and to one as well.

1813
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,639
Speaker 1: I'm dealing with a situation like that, whatever, whatever the cause,

1814
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 1: may be, terrible, truly terrible. Eighteen just eighteen years old.

1815
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 1: Really just awful news.

1816
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 2: Not that I expect some good news from one championship

1817
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 2: to try to offset that looke, because it could never

1818
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 2: live up to it. But can I get you excited

1819
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:01,719
Speaker 2: about it? Recently announced one championship out?

1820
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 1: Can you all right?

1821
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 2: How about this one Fight Night eight is going to

1822
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:14,799
Speaker 2: go down Friday, March twenty fourth, a heavyweight world title

1823
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 2: unification about in the main event Arjen Boular and Anatolely

1824
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 2: Mallikin who just sent Urdr to the Land of Winding

1825
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 2: ghosts as you would say, and is a has the

1826
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 2: interim heavyweight strape now a two division champion himself. Dude,

1827
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 2: this is what what what MMA fans in this in

1828
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 2: this space have wanted. They're getting it, dude. And the

1829
01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 2: more we can see of this guy, Anatony Mallikin, God,

1830
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:40,960
Speaker 2: he's a hammer, but how good is this fight going

1831
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:42,719
Speaker 2: to be? Luke Ar Johnkin bang too.

1832
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 1: Our junkin bank. He's a good wrestler. He was fought

1833
01:24:45,200 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 1: for the UFC, I think briefly, and he moved to

1834
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:51,600
Speaker 1: one I think obviously of Indian descent, which is a

1835
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 1: big source of pride for him and his fans as well.

1836
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 1: And there was some contract dispute because he didn't want

1837
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:58,599
Speaker 1: I think they wanted him to take this without getting

1838
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:00,680
Speaker 1: a new deal. He wanted a new deal. So if

1839
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 1: they made the fight, I guess that means that they

1840
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 1: got the contract situation resolved, which is great for Argent.

1841
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 1: It's great for one, it's great for this fight, and

1842
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 1: it's a title unification. He has been the interim champ,

1843
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:11,680
Speaker 1: as you indicated, he's actually double champ because he's the

1844
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 1: interim heavyweight CHAMPI and he's the full on light heavyweight champ.

1845
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 1: So they're gonna solidify that heavyweight light heavyweight excuse me,

1846
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 1: heavyweight interim heavyweight title between Buller and then between Malakin.

1847
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 1: But malikin a revelation in twenty twenty two about how

1848
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 1: good he is. Definitely one to pay attention to in

1849
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 1: this upcoming year and in that bout as well.

1850
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:34,559
Speaker 2: And I didn't want you to forget for this Friday's

1851
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 2: one on Amazon card that Rodtaying is back in a

1852
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 2: kickboxing match. And dude, how about Stamp Fairtex, who is

1853
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:45,440
Speaker 2: a women's Adam Way MMA fighter who just makes incredibly

1854
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 2: fun fight after incredibly fun fight. Do you know about

1855
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:53,639
Speaker 2: her decorated kickboxing partner opponent? Excuse me, Anissa Mexan.

1856
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 1: Have you heard I could lie and tell you that

1857
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 1: I knew a lot about her, I'm not gonna do it.

1858
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:00,719
Speaker 2: Okay, she's thirty four from France but has already decorated

1859
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 2: kickboxing background coming into this fight. This I've heard this

1860
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 2: is going to be an absolute war and it's going

1861
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 2: to be.

1862
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 1: A boxing is perhaps my biggest blind spot in all

1863
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 1: of the composite sports at MMA. It's just the one

1864
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 1: I know and understand the least, unfortunately, but perhaps this

1865
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 1: year we can make a change in that.

1866
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 2: Alright, Gary tonan too. I didn't want to cut you

1867
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:20,800
Speaker 2: off there.

1868
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 1: But listen, Gary Ton's on this card as.

1869
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 2: Well, but you're a big Gary Tonan fan, so I

1870
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 2: wanted the world to know that.

1871
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 1: He'll be back as well. All right, want to remind

1872
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 1: folks as we kick off the new year, we want

1873
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 1: to remind you about our favorite sponsor, money Lion. We

1874
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:35,679
Speaker 1: created the Hammer of the Month, the spotlight undercard fighters

1875
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 1: who aren't getting the recognition they deserve. Aaron Blanchfield, of course,

1876
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 1: was our winner in November and for December Ilyatoporia one

1877
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 1: with his dominant win over Bryce Mitchell. So remember to

1878
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 1: tweet us at your nominees all throughout January with the

1879
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 1: hashtag Hammer of the Month. You can also use hashtag

1880
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 1: Holy Hammer so we can reward someone for their incredible performance.

1881
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:57,840
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1882
01:26:58,160 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 1: to learn more on how to enter.

1883
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 2: So't I've got roymand Villa, who is on the Showtime

1884
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:05,639
Speaker 2: pay per view main card that we talked about on

1885
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 2: this list for consideration. Luke will find out this weekend

1886
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 2: on the one Championship or UFC Fight Night return. Who

1887
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:16,680
Speaker 2: can add themselves to that. I'm looking forward to it, Luke.

1888
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 2: I gotta find out is the Hammer in transit to

1889
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 2: Casa Tuporia. Can we get this on film.

1890
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:24,640
Speaker 1: Look, we have to look into that. Well, we'll have

1891
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 1: to ask about it. I'm not sure what the status

1892
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 1: what that is.

1893
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:29,640
Speaker 2: Okay, somebody's gonna get a massive hammer to put their

1894
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 2: hands around Luke. I can't wait to see it.

1895
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 1: That's right, all right, let's do. It's time for when

1896
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:36,640
Speaker 1: you guys ask us the questions. It's time for dms

1897
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 1: from the diggity Dogs.

1898
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 2: Heehaw heehaw.

1899
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 1: Uh okay BC from Lane Maker Hi LUKENBC. Dravante's scary

1900
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 1: scrambling of Garcia's brain got me thinking about we don't

1901
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:54,559
Speaker 1: why we don't see the same lights out power from

1902
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 1: more one thirty five ers in Mma. Is this because

1903
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 1: Dravante is an outlier? Or can this be attributed to

1904
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 1: the differences in training between the two different sports? Keep

1905
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 1: up the great work, blah blah blah. See. I'm gonna

1906
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:06,439
Speaker 1: say it's probably a little column A columnye, but mostly

1907
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 1: column A. Dravante is a freak. He's a freak. He

1908
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:13,719
Speaker 1: has freak level power. Now, he does probably have much

1909
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:19,320
Speaker 1: sharper technique and much more drilled, naturally inculcated understanding of

1910
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 1: how to throw a punch in a more dynamic way

1911
01:28:21,400 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 1: than most one thirty five rs. But the real big

1912
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:26,720
Speaker 1: difference in what he can do and what everyone else

1913
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 1: can do is he just has he was born with

1914
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:32,720
Speaker 1: an incredible gift that he uses to dramatic effect.

1915
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 2: Right yeah, I mean I don't think it's anything of

1916
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 2: MMA versus boxing, or if these weight classes aren't known

1917
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 2: in particular for bringing guys who can bang, that's that's

1918
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:45,720
Speaker 2: not the case at all. I mean I used to

1919
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 2: know a guy named John Lennaker Luk who used to

1920
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:48,760
Speaker 2: bang a lot at thirty five.

1921
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:53,839
Speaker 1: Right yeah, but he throws big, wild punches like there's.

1922
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 2: Something, Yeah, there's something special about Dravante's power. It really

1923
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:01,640
Speaker 2: is where the average punch can can land, certainly with

1924
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 2: more pop and just that one punch thudding. I mean,

1925
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:06,960
Speaker 2: the dude, look at the LEAs Santa Cruz highly that's

1926
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:07,639
Speaker 2: absolutely dude.

1927
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:10,040
Speaker 1: We talked. So we had Bob Santos at the way

1928
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 1: in show. Right, So Bob Santos is the trainer for

1929
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 1: Hector Garcia, the guy he just fought. But Bob Santo's

1930
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:18,679
Speaker 1: trains with like a lot of like very high level

1931
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 1: boxers and has said that he had seen like you know, dozens,

1932
01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 1: if not hundreds of rounds of Dravante's sparring because he's

1933
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 1: been in the gym with him, like he's just watched it,

1934
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:30,240
Speaker 1: and he said he has personally seen a high level

1935
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:34,639
Speaker 1: one fifty four pounder get dropped and finished by Dravante

1936
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 1: and training. I mean, that dude can fucking he can

1937
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 1: fucking thump man. Like, there's a lot of things you

1938
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:43,160
Speaker 1: can say about Dravonte, positively or negatively, but he has

1939
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 1: ungodly power for a guy at one hundred and thirty

1940
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 1: five pounds. It's just very rich.

1941
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a gift. Luke. You remember growing up

1942
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 2: and you know, playing baseball and there'd be those that

1943
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:56,559
Speaker 2: skinny wiry kid who can just throw heat and you're like, yes,

1944
01:29:56,960 --> 01:29:58,720
Speaker 2: how I don't get it, you know what I mean?

1945
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 2: And you know how many great punchers and boxing have

1946
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 2: been long, skinny wiry guys too. It's just, you know,

1947
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 2: could you work on certain things to improve your power? Sure,

1948
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:09,960
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, You know, your your technique

1949
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,640
Speaker 2: and being able to generate power from your legs, all

1950
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 2: that good stuff, But sometimes people just have that thing

1951
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 2: that hits you and you go fly in and that's

1952
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:18,920
Speaker 2: just the deal.

1953
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 1: Dude.

1954
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:21,280
Speaker 2: You ever get in a snowball fight with somebody who

1955
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 2: was like a pitcher of luke, you'd find that out quickly.

1956
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they put ice inside and then the

1957
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 1: snow on the outside. That yes, all right? From at

1958
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 1: Cole underscore Brown eight five eight. Has there ever been

1959
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 1: another situation in a fight or it was paused due

1960
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 1: to a fight in the crowd like what happened with

1961
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:39,760
Speaker 1: was Givante Davis in round eight over the weekend? Now

1962
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:43,599
Speaker 1: you had mentioned the what's his face guy who parachuted in.

1963
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:47,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, the fan man in the second Riddick Bow Evander

1964
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:50,080
Speaker 2: Holyfield fight in Las Vegas and what ninety three? The

1965
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:53,400
Speaker 2: fan man incident stopped the fight and Riddick Bo's corner

1966
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:55,760
Speaker 2: then beat the shit out of the fan man like

1967
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 2: you needed to be hospitalized for a long time. You

1968
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 2: may recall Flood versus Zab Judah on pay per view

1969
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 2: from around two thousand and six, where members of the

1970
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:08,160
Speaker 2: opposing corners got into a fight. Judah got involved and

1971
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 2: that stopped the action. That wasn't a crowd fight. But no,

1972
01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:14,040
Speaker 2: you know, both of those situations involved what was more

1973
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 2: going on in the ring. But I don't remember a

1974
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 2: crowd brawl in during a fight, after a fight. There's

1975
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 2: been some hillatious crowdballs, crowd brawls, bo versus galata. One

1976
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:27,640
Speaker 2: is you know, the quick quick turn memory one on

1977
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 2: that one. But no, dude, I cannot remember this. I mean,

1978
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:33,559
Speaker 2: you know, if you reach back on the tape, Dravante

1979
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 2: is looking. He keeps looking back at the crowd and

1980
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 2: back over here, you know, and maybe Luke because it

1981
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:43,000
Speaker 2: was so close to the ring. It involved everyone's attention shifting,

1982
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:46,160
Speaker 2: which is not abnormal because there's been big fights and

1983
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:48,600
Speaker 2: crowds during combat sports, you know, in recent memory for

1984
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:55,320
Speaker 2: a long time, but involved like celebrities, active fighters. Steven Haspinova,

1985
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:58,000
Speaker 2: Stevensmeoso's Showtime Sports is right in the middle of that,

1986
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:00,080
Speaker 2: so I wonder if all that played into it. But

1987
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:02,800
Speaker 2: it was the referees discretion, and I kind of feel

1988
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:04,760
Speaker 2: like it's the right call because that was a little

1989
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:06,880
Speaker 2: too close for comfort to the actual ring.

1990
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:11,280
Speaker 1: Do you agree, Yeah, yeah, because it was, I mean

1991
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 1: it was it happened in the celebrity section. I mean,

1992
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 1: it's usually the place that's the most protected or secluded

1993
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:19,599
Speaker 1: in some kind of way, and so that made it

1994
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:21,680
Speaker 1: a little bit weird, because that's why it was so distracting.

1995
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 1: Both Garcia and Davis were like looking over being like

1996
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 1: what the fuck is going on here? And the referee

1997
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 1: just kind of had to be like all right, Tom.

1998
01:32:28,240 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 1: He was kind of like bullied into it almost in

1999
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 1: a way. It didn't ultimately, I think, effect the way

2000
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 1: the fight was going to happen, which is good. By

2001
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 1: the way, imagine if they did. Imagine if like it

2002
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:39,840
Speaker 1: had derailed the direction the fight seemed to be heading.

2003
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 1: That didn't happen, So the actually kind of lucked out.

2004
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:45,840
Speaker 2: But that's what happened in Bo Holyfield Bow Holyfield. They

2005
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 2: were outdoors, it was cold at night in Las Vegas,

2006
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:51,640
Speaker 2: and that changed the complexion of that fight completely. But

2007
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:54,640
Speaker 2: also both found out his pregnant wife got caught up

2008
01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 2: in the melee and had to be taken to the hospital,

2009
01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:58,559
Speaker 2: so that, you know, a lot of extra factors there

2010
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 2: as well. But yeah, it's weird. It's weird, dude. You

2011
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:01,439
Speaker 2: don't see that often, that's for.

2012
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:05,120
Speaker 1: Sure, all right. From at Ryan Wilson Underscore Films, Luke

2013
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:07,840
Speaker 1: has to have a one on one dinner with John Jones,

2014
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:11,080
Speaker 1: Dana White or Colby Covington. Who is he choosing? Oh wow,

2015
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:12,680
Speaker 1: choosing starvation.

2016
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 2: You're choosing Colby? And you know it.

2017
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:17,799
Speaker 1: Why would I choose Colby?

2018
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 2: The other two would not. The other two would not

2019
01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:22,240
Speaker 2: walk through that door, Luke.

2020
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:25,120
Speaker 1: I don't think Kobe would walk through the door either.

2021
01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, he would, he would. We could probably get him

2022
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 2: on the couch, Luke, you want you want Colby on

2023
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:30,960
Speaker 2: the artist couch?

2024
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:33,040
Speaker 1: I bet we couldn't. I bet we couldn't.

2025
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 2: Uh.

2026
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:37,200
Speaker 1: And he used to follow me back when I would

2027
01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:40,719
Speaker 1: defend There was a moment where folks were like, Colby

2028
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:42,960
Speaker 1: Covington sucks as a person and as a fighter, and

2029
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:45,200
Speaker 1: I'd be like, well, you can dislike who he is

2030
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:48,559
Speaker 1: as a person, but he's actually very good as a fighter.

2031
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:52,080
Speaker 1: And I would make sure to push that line until

2032
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 1: he became obvious that that was a thing that everyone

2033
01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:56,880
Speaker 1: had to recognize. And he would follow me on Twitter

2034
01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:59,000
Speaker 1: at the time. But then after that, when you know,

2035
01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:01,519
Speaker 1: he would just do like very odious things, he began

2036
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 1: to unfollow me, or he actually unfollowed me, and I

2037
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 1: got a feeling that he wouldn't agree to it. I mean,

2038
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:08,600
Speaker 1: I could, you could be right, but I get my

2039
01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 1: bet would be he wouldn't take it anyway. I don't

2040
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 1: have anything to ask any of these people. I'm not

2041
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:17,640
Speaker 1: interested in talking to them, all right at Kyle hank Levy.

2042
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:22,400
Speaker 2: Okay, but that's it. It's just just like that, that's it.

2043
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 2: I mean, what if what if we got a call

2044
01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:27,639
Speaker 2: from UFCPR that said, look, it's been crazy lately. We've

2045
01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:30,760
Speaker 2: seen your content. Dana wants to do a sit down

2046
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:33,360
Speaker 2: with you guys. He wants to clear the air. He

2047
01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 2: wants to do it on camera.

2048
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:36,360
Speaker 1: I would never do these he wants to do it

2049
01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:39,599
Speaker 1: on camera. You might as well say, Luke, imagine, just imagine,

2050
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:41,840
Speaker 1: just hear me out. You wake up one day and

2051
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:43,800
Speaker 1: you've got wings on your back and you can just

2052
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 1: fly around. Would you do MK with wings on your back?

2053
01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:48,639
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, question is this.

2054
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 2: Who would be more willing? John or Dana? Because you

2055
01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:59,240
Speaker 2: know you've made enemies through your years, whether you've whether

2056
01:34:59,280 --> 01:35:02,680
Speaker 2: that's the result of aggressive, you know, smart sound journalism,

2057
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:05,880
Speaker 2: or whether you're just a raging piece of shit. Luke

2058
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:07,800
Speaker 2: and I just haven't figured it out yet. I don't

2059
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:08,879
Speaker 2: think that to be true.

2060
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:14,599
Speaker 1: Though, Uh you know that to not be true. Maybe

2061
01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:18,519
Speaker 1: John maybe maybe. I mean, we're talking like.

2062
01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 2: The I'll last our PR team, I'll ask our team

2063
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:24,120
Speaker 2: to reach out and start the John RSD. I mean,

2064
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:25,800
Speaker 2: you know, he might as well might as well come

2065
01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:28,120
Speaker 2: on our platform and talk about moving up to heavyweight

2066
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:28,439
Speaker 2: and stuff.

2067
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 1: It'd be great. Yeah, it'd be an amazing time, all right.

2068
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 1: From Kyle hank Levy. Luke, what do you think about

2069
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:40,000
Speaker 1: Hamzat lifting in gloves? Does this change your opinion about

2070
01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:44,679
Speaker 1: his ceiling? I did see one picture. I couldn't quite

2071
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:49,439
Speaker 1: make it out. I just don't understand why anyone would

2072
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:53,000
Speaker 1: lift with gloves short of I've got a very unique

2073
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:56,800
Speaker 1: job where I need my palms to be as you know, yeah,

2074
01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:59,760
Speaker 1: you don't get those weird asty smooth as possible.

2075
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 2: My dad made me start going to the gym when

2076
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:07,559
Speaker 2: I was fourteen and made me wear gloves during that stretch.

2077
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:11,599
Speaker 1: Luke, he made you wear gloves, yep.

2078
01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:13,680
Speaker 2: He was like, these will help your hands not get

2079
01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 2: all calloused up and that burn feeling.

2080
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:16,960
Speaker 1: Use them.

2081
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:19,760
Speaker 2: So, Luke, I grew up in high school going to

2082
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:21,760
Speaker 2: a I don't even remember the name of that gym,

2083
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:24,080
Speaker 2: going that gym, you know, three times a week with

2084
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 2: gloves on I mean, as you can guess, it didn't.

2085
01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:29,160
Speaker 2: It didn't do much for me, you know, muscularly, Luke.

2086
01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:32,639
Speaker 2: During that stretch, I was a damn bean pole. But uh,

2087
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 2: you know, I don't look down at it as such

2088
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:38,000
Speaker 2: a you know, you know what I do. If you

2089
01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:40,759
Speaker 2: wear a dress shirt without a tie and you button

2090
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:44,800
Speaker 2: the top button, that to me, that's the same same

2091
01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:47,200
Speaker 2: offensive to you as lifting gloves, you know what I mean, Like,

2092
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:47,880
Speaker 2: what are we doing here?

2093
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:49,439
Speaker 1: But it's not the same offense. I keep trying to

2094
01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:53,320
Speaker 1: explain this to people. You will your grip is compromised

2095
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 1: when you wear the gloves, right, So if you actually

2096
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:59,639
Speaker 1: want to get your grip stronger, take the fucking gloves off.

2097
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 1: It will actually interfere with your ability to manage your grip.

2098
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 2: Like my heroes wear gloves Luke. Okay, Jim McMahon played

2099
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:11,880
Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFL wearing gloves, all right, Michael Jackson,

2100
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:19,080
Speaker 2: who was Brady? Yeah, yeah, I don't think though. You

2101
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:21,799
Speaker 2: just finished a losing season Luke, first of his career.

2102
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 1: Thank god, I've been enjoying his fucking demise. Are you

2103
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:29,240
Speaker 1: kidding me? All the terrible shit we had to swallow

2104
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:32,160
Speaker 1: when he was Patriots Nation the whole time, and now

2105
01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:34,960
Speaker 1: that it's finally coming to a close, I am enjoying

2106
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:38,040
Speaker 1: this fucker's decline like you can not imagine. But the

2107
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:40,880
Speaker 1: short answer is, people of the world, you just don't

2108
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:44,360
Speaker 1: need gloves. They don't serve any other purpose other than

2109
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:47,840
Speaker 1: I'm a weirdo who needs buttery smooth hands. Well, if

2110
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:50,559
Speaker 1: you need that, I guess, then wear gloves. But for

2111
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:53,800
Speaker 1: the rest of humanity, they don't do anything good for you,

2112
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:56,200
Speaker 1: and in fact, they interfere with your ability to lift properly.

2113
01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:59,240
Speaker 1: So quit fucking doing that, all right, Last, but not

2114
01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:04,760
Speaker 1: least at dark Underscore m zekey is the key. Let's

2115
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:07,360
Speaker 1: say you could pick any guest for the London Live

2116
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:10,960
Speaker 1: Show BC. But here's the catch. You only have them

2117
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:14,200
Speaker 1: on to be roasted. Who would it be?

2118
01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 2: KSI right, if we brought on a guest and just

2119
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:19,760
Speaker 2: roasted in, we'd probably have to fight right there, Luke.

2120
01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:21,879
Speaker 2: So I don't know if that's a good business strategy.

2121
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:24,160
Speaker 1: Let's get let's get Dylan Danis on the Live show

2122
01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:28,600
Speaker 1: and just roast the fucking shit out of him.

2123
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:30,840
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I don't I do? Is that

2124
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:33,200
Speaker 2: something you look forward to the idea of bringing somebody

2125
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:35,160
Speaker 2: out in person roasting them, Luke. You know, I think

2126
01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 2: that's the.

2127
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:37,280
Speaker 1: Thing is you got to roast a friend, right, You

2128
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:38,759
Speaker 1: got to roast someone you care about.

2129
01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:39,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2130
01:38:40,439 --> 01:38:41,799
Speaker 1: I don't really care about many people.

2131
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:46,200
Speaker 2: How about Jay Aaron? How about Pennington Hits London?

2132
01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:48,920
Speaker 1: Oh god, but it's like, dude, we have to give

2133
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:51,960
Speaker 1: him attention, like he just loves attention dollars.

2134
01:38:52,120 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 2: You know that's true.

2135
01:38:53,320 --> 01:38:55,439
Speaker 1: Why don't you tell the folks what you were doing before?

2136
01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:58,120
Speaker 1: What was it before the weigh ends that day? You

2137
01:38:58,200 --> 01:38:59,760
Speaker 1: and the rest of the crew. I was not part

2138
01:38:59,760 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 1: of this.

2139
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:03,600
Speaker 2: I was on the Jason Aaron YouTube channel where he

2140
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:07,639
Speaker 2: reviews products like blenders, and he bought a massive eel

2141
01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 2: fish tank, a two sided one and put it into

2142
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:13,799
Speaker 2: his house or apartment. I don't know where Jay lives.

2143
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 1: Uh.

2144
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:17,720
Speaker 2: And uh every video he does, Luke, which has uh

2145
01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:23,120
Speaker 2: just bizarre reactions and dialogue. He wears MK shirts and

2146
01:39:23,200 --> 01:39:24,720
Speaker 2: most of them. So that was a big part of

2147
01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:27,840
Speaker 2: our you know, oh wow, but you know, shout out

2148
01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:29,360
Speaker 2: to j Air and he was you know, look, Luke,

2149
01:39:29,400 --> 01:39:31,439
Speaker 2: he's part of our family's history. You can't take him

2150
01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:33,680
Speaker 2: out of the MK lore. You can't remove it. You

2151
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:37,920
Speaker 2: can take him off the show. I mean, what about Appy?

2152
01:39:37,960 --> 01:39:39,400
Speaker 2: What if we just roast Appy in?

2153
01:39:40,280 --> 01:39:43,479
Speaker 1: Dude, you'd love to give attention to weirdos you love

2154
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:47,920
Speaker 1: nothing more. Dude, Here's who BC likes. Drifters, people who

2155
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 1: are alone at bus stations, people who close talk. I mean,

2156
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:58,080
Speaker 1: anyone who's a fucking weirdo. Yes, anyone, anyone who's a

2157
01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:01,639
Speaker 1: fucking weirdo. You just want to put your arms around

2158
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:04,559
Speaker 1: them and then find you find them deeply interesting. And

2159
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:06,800
Speaker 1: I don't really understand that. I just don't get it.

2160
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:10,240
Speaker 2: You know, you can. You could move around this life

2161
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 2: too quickly, Luke, and and miss the art that's all

2162
01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:19,040
Speaker 2: around us. And you know, I like a little crazy sometimes, Luke.

2163
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:20,880
Speaker 2: I like a little art sometimes. I think that's the

2164
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:24,040
Speaker 2: real answer, you know. And Luke, don't, you know, don't

2165
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:27,559
Speaker 2: be one of those people who misses the greatness and

2166
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:30,120
Speaker 2: people around them. And whether it's you know, Jake von

2167
01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:32,880
Speaker 2: Amsterdam just an eccentric genius, you know what I mean?

2168
01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:35,000
Speaker 2: Where would I be if I dismiss that guy?

2169
01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:35,280
Speaker 1: Luke?

2170
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:39,640
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, but you know, maybe maybe Appy's you know,

2171
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:42,120
Speaker 2: maybe it's all a big bit Luke.

2172
01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:45,880
Speaker 1: We wait, we should roast you. That's what we should

2173
01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:50,120
Speaker 1: do out of BC. Have those Brits. The Brits can

2174
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:52,640
Speaker 1: roast too. Don't think they can't get up there, just

2175
01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:54,880
Speaker 1: assassinate you.

2176
01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:58,040
Speaker 2: You always say my type for women is future lunch ladies,

2177
01:40:58,040 --> 01:41:00,479
Speaker 2: and I think that's really rude. Luke, future waitress, says yes,

2178
01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:02,240
Speaker 2: but I also support the service.

2179
01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:02,800
Speaker 1: Industry, you know what I mean.

2180
01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:03,920
Speaker 2: So it's fine, you know.

2181
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:07,280
Speaker 1: All Right, that's it for our fan questions this time

2182
01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:08,200
Speaker 1: for BC's VCS.

2183
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:11,120
Speaker 2: All right, I got off the plane yesterday, Luke and

2184
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:13,800
Speaker 2: I scoured the globe for the highs and lows, the good,

2185
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:16,840
Speaker 2: the bad, the ugly, the in between from the world

2186
01:41:16,840 --> 01:41:19,960
Speaker 2: of combat sports and beyond. This is a hefty pile

2187
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:21,880
Speaker 2: of shit here that Geff Pierre had to dig through.

2188
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:23,920
Speaker 2: This one's called Have you seen this shit?

2189
01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:27,200
Speaker 1: Got some got some bangers in the crate, so to speak.

2190
01:41:27,439 --> 01:41:31,720
Speaker 2: Yep, BC's Fece's gonna deliver. Yep, here we go. Your

2191
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:34,599
Speaker 2: favorite segment is back. Let's start Luke Showtime pay per

2192
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:38,000
Speaker 2: view from Washington, d C. And here's the video everybody

2193
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:40,559
Speaker 2: was talking about Round eight before the fight was actually stopped.

2194
01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:44,519
Speaker 2: Meek Mill wearing Green and the crowd. Some people said

2195
01:41:44,520 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 2: he got into it with Wallow. I don't know Wallow,

2196
01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:50,000
Speaker 2: but I do know Gary Russell Junior was down there, Luke,

2197
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:53,360
Speaker 2: and I've watched a lot of videos on it, and

2198
01:41:53,439 --> 01:41:57,639
Speaker 2: I believe Meek Mill was upset that Gary Russell Junior,

2199
01:41:57,640 --> 01:42:02,280
Speaker 2: who's from the DMV but has never you know, held

2200
01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:04,680
Speaker 2: back from sharing that he'd love to fight Dravante one day,

2201
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:08,960
Speaker 2: was cheering against Gervante as a member of the DMV.

2202
01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:12,120
Speaker 2: And that's ultimately what meek Mill took exception two and

2203
01:42:12,160 --> 01:42:15,160
Speaker 2: that's why there was almost the brawl. What's this deal

2204
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:17,479
Speaker 2: with Wallow? Who's Wallow? Is that the guy who works

2205
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:20,439
Speaker 2: at the at the parts store and the phantom menace? Luke?

2206
01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:22,760
Speaker 2: Who tells Anakin that you know what? Is that the

2207
01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:23,439
Speaker 2: guy who's good?

2208
01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:25,519
Speaker 1: The guy who's just like a casual slave owner.

2209
01:42:25,880 --> 01:42:26,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2210
01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that guy in the Star Wars fandom. So he

2211
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:31,520
Speaker 1: got what he does. He's great?

2212
01:42:32,280 --> 01:42:35,120
Speaker 2: No, seriously, Luke, a little while, what I mean, what

2213
01:42:35,120 --> 01:42:36,920
Speaker 2: do you say about Meek Mill's performance here?

2214
01:42:37,439 --> 01:42:39,080
Speaker 1: Not great? He had tweeted he had to go down

2215
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:40,720
Speaker 1: to see the tank fight, so you thought he'd be

2216
01:42:40,840 --> 01:42:43,080
Speaker 1: like cool about it, But I guess not. You can

2217
01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:44,960
Speaker 1: see him getting escorted out there. They had to escort

2218
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:46,599
Speaker 1: him out and they had to leave there, so he missed,

2219
01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:47,759
Speaker 1: he missed, he missed the show.

2220
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:50,280
Speaker 2: When this video changes again, you'll see in the bottom

2221
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:52,840
Speaker 2: right corner there's somebody dressed in green walking away. That's

2222
01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:55,160
Speaker 2: Meek Mill. But in the top portion of the screen

2223
01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:58,200
Speaker 2: dressed in green, dude, that Stack Stephen Jackson.

2224
01:42:58,280 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 1: All the smoke, yeah, top left top.

2225
01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:04,840
Speaker 2: He was playing peacemaker like at an aggressive level, and

2226
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:07,320
Speaker 2: it was actually a big reason why this didn't turn

2227
01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:10,920
Speaker 2: into something much bigger. So shout out to Stack five there, Luke.

2228
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:12,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think someone was pushing and shoving and it

2229
01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:14,760
Speaker 1: got to his wife and he had had enough, so

2230
01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:17,880
Speaker 1: he had calmed down that side of the crowd. Stack's great.

2231
01:43:18,000 --> 01:43:19,360
Speaker 1: You want to hear us say a bad word about

2232
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:20,000
Speaker 1: him all.

2233
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:22,719
Speaker 2: Right before Meek Mill and then his entire team wearing

2234
01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:25,000
Speaker 2: the dream Catcher jackets or whatever that was. I don't

2235
01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:27,640
Speaker 2: understand the reference. They were escorted out. They left on

2236
01:43:27,680 --> 01:43:30,519
Speaker 2: their own before that, though, Meek was caught on camera

2237
01:43:31,479 --> 01:43:46,599
Speaker 2: yelling at Gary Russell Jr. Here's what they picked up now, Luke,

2238
01:43:46,640 --> 01:43:48,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if We didn't hear the audio. I

2239
01:43:48,320 --> 01:43:50,519
Speaker 2: don't know if the audience did, but the quote was

2240
01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:55,439
Speaker 2: I'll really sock you though, from Meek Mill, allegedly at

2241
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:56,479
Speaker 2: Gary Russell Jr.

2242
01:43:56,560 --> 01:43:59,120
Speaker 1: So there I spoke to Gary Russell Jr. I was

2243
01:43:59,160 --> 01:44:00,840
Speaker 1: walking by earlier the night and I was like, Gary,

2244
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:03,519
Speaker 1: when are you fighting again? He was like Summer, and

2245
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm like Gary, or as they say, as they say

2246
01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:11,680
Speaker 1: in this part of the world, Gurry not acceptable, my man.

2247
01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:13,519
Speaker 1: We got to get you out there more more more,

2248
01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:14,920
Speaker 1: you know, consistently. Bro.

2249
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:17,559
Speaker 2: He fights once a year. It's what he does, all right.

2250
01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:20,320
Speaker 2: He's a he's a trainer now. His own father recently

2251
01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:22,879
Speaker 2: passed away, rip But he seems to be like like Kabibe,

2252
01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:26,040
Speaker 2: taking on the training, you know, from the family and

2253
01:44:26,439 --> 01:44:29,439
Speaker 2: being there for his brothers. But you know, dude, he

2254
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:31,240
Speaker 2: was a champion at won twenty six. He lost that

2255
01:44:31,280 --> 01:44:33,760
Speaker 2: belt to Mark Magsao in that fight, but he's been

2256
01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:36,200
Speaker 2: talking about moving up to thirty five to face Dravante

2257
01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:37,720
Speaker 2: for a while. That's it.

2258
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:40,439
Speaker 1: Do you like that idea? No? I think Gravante has

2259
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:43,479
Speaker 1: way too much for him physically at that way class.

2260
01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:46,439
Speaker 2: No, Gary's got some hands, thought some very good.

2261
01:44:46,680 --> 01:44:49,080
Speaker 1: Gary. Gary's very skilled. He's a really good boxer.

2262
01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:51,880
Speaker 2: But no, all right, all right, pay back to the fights.

2263
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:56,200
Speaker 2: Here's five days before the fight. Gervonte Davis was warming up,

2264
01:44:56,240 --> 01:44:58,679
Speaker 2: I believe, for his media day and he started working

2265
01:44:58,720 --> 01:44:59,480
Speaker 2: on some backflips.

2266
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:02,360
Speaker 1: Luke, your thought, dude, Gravante's athletic. I mean, this is

2267
01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:04,760
Speaker 1: not like the most like nimble backflip you ever seen.

2268
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:07,040
Speaker 1: But the dude's just like playing around, you know.

2269
01:45:07,600 --> 01:45:11,160
Speaker 2: Well he would. The warm up was for the finale

2270
01:45:11,280 --> 01:45:14,040
Speaker 2: when he stopped Hector Luis Garcia in round eight. Here

2271
01:45:14,200 --> 01:45:15,559
Speaker 2: was the victory celebration.

2272
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:19,639
Speaker 1: This was right in front of where my my wife

2273
01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:24,040
Speaker 1: and my friends were. They love this. Yeah, dude, my

2274
01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:26,639
Speaker 1: man's athletic. I mean, you know, can't you can't say

2275
01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:28,080
Speaker 1: he's not yep.

2276
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:31,599
Speaker 2: Before the fight, Luke Reel ended up recognizing real when

2277
01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:35,040
Speaker 2: Dravante was met in the locker room by Kyle Kuzmov,

2278
01:45:35,080 --> 01:45:38,400
Speaker 2: the Wizards and other famous NBA stars, also by some

2279
01:45:38,439 --> 01:45:41,160
Speaker 2: White Magic, Vito Milnecki Junior checking in.

2280
01:45:41,439 --> 01:45:44,160
Speaker 1: I didn't say this to Viteo Milnikki's face because I

2281
01:45:44,160 --> 01:45:46,760
Speaker 1: didn't want it to come off weird. His nickname is

2282
01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:49,400
Speaker 1: white Magic. I feel like you can only have that

2283
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:51,880
Speaker 1: nickname if a black guy gives it to you, which

2284
01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:56,520
Speaker 1: which actually did happen? Right? Do you know what I'm saying? Like, Yeah,

2285
01:45:56,520 --> 01:46:00,200
Speaker 1: one white guy can't call another guy white magic? Is like,

2286
01:46:00,200 --> 01:46:01,400
Speaker 1: do you know what they should call you? They should

2287
01:46:01,400 --> 01:46:02,360
Speaker 1: call you white magic.

2288
01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:04,720
Speaker 2: So if I was like, yo, moving on out from

2289
01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:06,560
Speaker 2: here on out in a morning combat, my nickname is

2290
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:11,120
Speaker 2: the White Knight, you'd be like, see no, no, no,

2291
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:11,800
Speaker 2: no no.

2292
01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:15,040
Speaker 1: But but if Gaff gave you that nickname, I'd be

2293
01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:15,840
Speaker 1: all right with it, you know what.

2294
01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:18,280
Speaker 2: I know we can't say it out loud because it

2295
01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:21,439
Speaker 2: would compromise certain relationships. But Gaff got my back in

2296
01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:24,519
Speaker 2: a very key, behind the scenes argument that involved MMA

2297
01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:26,519
Speaker 2: and women. And I'll never forget that, Luke.

2298
01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:29,280
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I will forget that because both of you

2299
01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:30,960
Speaker 1: are just completely disgusting people.

2300
01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:34,360
Speaker 2: But you know, Gaff gets me. Okay, he handles my

2301
01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:38,599
Speaker 2: shit regularly. Hey, Luke, you mentioned it. Lifting glove Sisson

2302
01:46:39,680 --> 01:46:42,960
Speaker 2: is back. Baby. Here's the aforementioned picture we talked about,

2303
01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:47,360
Speaker 2: a DM from donks hamzat Chimayav showing off his jacketedness

2304
01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:50,400
Speaker 2: and Luca, I don't have the tweet here, But did

2305
01:46:50,439 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 2: you see what's the guy's name? The heavyweight from Philly.

2306
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:56,120
Speaker 2: Chris Daukas made fun of him with a quote tweet

2307
01:46:56,160 --> 01:46:58,240
Speaker 2: that everybody was tweeting at you. Yeah, what'd you think?

2308
01:46:58,280 --> 01:47:00,360
Speaker 2: Look at he looks? He looks Jack Luke.

2309
01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:02,800
Speaker 1: He doesn't have huge biceps or anything, but he's got

2310
01:47:02,840 --> 01:47:06,640
Speaker 1: big he's got them boulder shoulders and uh, he's got

2311
01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 1: gloves on for no good reason.

2312
01:47:08,800 --> 01:47:12,120
Speaker 2: What about those striations, Luke? Those striations right.

2313
01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:16,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, striated vascula.

2314
01:47:16,680 --> 01:47:19,760
Speaker 2: He's not the only person wearing lifting gloves these days.

2315
01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:24,840
Speaker 2: Let's see a professional in lifting gloves, all right?

2316
01:47:24,920 --> 01:47:27,640
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, is he bald? Training like he's got

2317
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:28,800
Speaker 1: a ball bag? The size of it?

2318
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:30,639
Speaker 2: I mean, look look at his look at his body

2319
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:32,920
Speaker 2: that you you're telling me like you can't get that

2320
01:47:33,040 --> 01:47:35,559
Speaker 2: Jack wearing gloves. I showed it to you right here. Okay,

2321
01:47:35,640 --> 01:47:37,599
Speaker 2: but bumps in the bumps style?

2322
01:47:38,479 --> 01:47:43,639
Speaker 1: Dude? Is he literally smuggling in a fucking like red

2323
01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:46,840
Speaker 1: panda in his in his underwear like what.

2324
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:49,559
Speaker 2: I believe there's a family of four there getting over

2325
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:50,559
Speaker 2: the border and his dusk.

2326
01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:54,280
Speaker 1: I think he's got the entire produce section of Whole

2327
01:47:54,280 --> 01:47:58,600
Speaker 1: Food in his fucking underwear. There just a giant.

2328
01:47:59,280 --> 01:48:01,200
Speaker 2: If I if I I was endowed like that, I'd

2329
01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:03,120
Speaker 2: be wearing lifting gloves twenty four to seven.

2330
01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:03,320
Speaker 1: Bro.

2331
01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:04,479
Speaker 2: Okay, so shout out.

2332
01:48:04,360 --> 01:48:06,040
Speaker 1: To the bad I mean, well, first of all, I

2333
01:48:06,040 --> 01:48:08,519
Speaker 1: mean I don't know. I mean, how do you serious question?

2334
01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:11,000
Speaker 1: Look at this man's ball bag. How do you take

2335
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:13,120
Speaker 1: a dump without that falling in the water. I'm just

2336
01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:16,000
Speaker 1: asking questions about you know, how it's accommodated.

2337
01:48:16,520 --> 01:48:18,920
Speaker 2: Okay, moving on, Luke, You know you want me to

2338
01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:21,080
Speaker 2: roast people into their face? What I look like a

2339
01:48:21,120 --> 01:48:24,040
Speaker 2: pro fighter? Luke? You you fuck around? You find out

2340
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:26,440
Speaker 2: even at seven eleven. Let's check out this exchange.

2341
01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:30,639
Speaker 1: Oh, this guy got racist.

2342
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, god four loco to the face.

2343
01:48:33,120 --> 01:48:36,880
Speaker 1: Bro, he got real racist and he was I've seen

2344
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:39,760
Speaker 1: this video. He was taunting the guy, and the guy

2345
01:48:39,880 --> 01:48:41,519
Speaker 1: just stood there and took it and took it and

2346
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:43,880
Speaker 1: took it until finally he was like, Yo, how's this

2347
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:46,880
Speaker 1: lemonade iced tea player? Let me know how that is?

2348
01:48:47,320 --> 01:48:49,639
Speaker 2: All right? Luke, Your interview of the Week happened at

2349
01:48:49,680 --> 01:48:54,120
Speaker 2: Cage Titans fifty seven, a regional MMA promotion. Here's Aaron

2350
01:48:54,280 --> 01:48:56,920
Speaker 2: Hughes letting you know what he's going to do with

2351
01:48:57,000 --> 01:49:00,160
Speaker 2: his winning money and where he's headed. Hi, real quick,

2352
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:00,679
Speaker 2: real quick.

2353
01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:04,920
Speaker 1: I came to throw bombs and bang moms and I'm

2354
01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 1: all not throwing bombs. So where the mom's at?

2355
01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:16,519
Speaker 2: All the moms? Keep it going there, MILFs unite, Luke.

2356
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:19,160
Speaker 2: There's a new hunter on the on the scene here,

2357
01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:20,080
Speaker 2: Aaron Hughes.

2358
01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:25,320
Speaker 1: This truly is the sport of kings. What else can

2359
01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:25,759
Speaker 1: be said?

2360
01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:29,880
Speaker 2: It's time for this week's best fails, Luke. Let's bring

2361
01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:31,799
Speaker 2: a bicycle on the roof and find out what happens,

2362
01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:32,080
Speaker 2: you know.

2363
01:49:35,120 --> 01:49:41,200
Speaker 1: All right, young lady, I mean this is that was

2364
01:49:41,360 --> 01:49:44,120
Speaker 1: never gonna go and just leave her in the dirt.

2365
01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:47,280
Speaker 1: Just the earth will take her now.

2366
01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:51,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, wow. Only the strong survive, Luke. And yeah

2367
01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:53,160
Speaker 2: that you saw it happen there. Hey, you ever do

2368
01:49:53,280 --> 01:49:55,679
Speaker 2: yard work with a wheelbarrow? They're hard to control, Luke.

2369
01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:04,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't recommend this. Yeah, oh what the fuck?

2370
01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:08,679
Speaker 2: All right?

2371
01:50:09,080 --> 01:50:10,960
Speaker 1: How do you not realize you have to press it

2372
01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:14,160
Speaker 1: above your head and then march overhead.

2373
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:17,479
Speaker 2: We have video of Luke on the sidewalk after he

2374
01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:20,639
Speaker 2: drank three Margarita's at our at our live show in Vegas.

2375
01:50:20,680 --> 01:50:21,599
Speaker 2: Here's what we got.

2376
01:50:24,760 --> 01:50:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is somewhere in England, right.

2377
01:50:31,040 --> 01:50:34,240
Speaker 2: Hopefully that'll be you after our London show, Luke at King's.

2378
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:37,200
Speaker 1: Place, I'm gonna get I'm gonna I'm gonna have a

2379
01:50:37,200 --> 01:50:37,759
Speaker 1: few pints.

2380
01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:40,920
Speaker 2: You remember when our team was like, you're not gonna

2381
01:50:40,920 --> 01:50:42,639
Speaker 2: be drinking during the show, just so you know, Luke.

2382
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:44,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I know, I know, I know.

2383
01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:47,880
Speaker 2: They were like, Luke, were not repeating Vegas.

2384
01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:50,759
Speaker 1: I'm feeling these seltzer waters.

2385
01:50:51,479 --> 01:50:54,439
Speaker 2: Let's go to the gym. You always find good fails there, Luke,

2386
01:50:55,600 --> 01:50:57,519
Speaker 2: especially when it's yeah, here we go. Oh, this is

2387
01:50:57,520 --> 01:50:58,080
Speaker 2: a competition.

2388
01:50:58,840 --> 01:51:02,080
Speaker 1: Okay, the that all look pretty good.

2389
01:51:02,360 --> 01:51:03,880
Speaker 2: Good snatch right, that was a.

2390
01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:10,200
Speaker 1: Good clean not all shit balls. Yeah, I mean everything

2391
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:13,120
Speaker 1: else looks okay. And then he's gonna pop his head

2392
01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:17,360
Speaker 1: back right too. Ah, you know what happened. They blow

2393
01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:20,639
Speaker 1: it up one more time, blow it up one more time. Okay,

2394
01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:22,400
Speaker 1: So here he is, he's gonna bump get under it.

2395
01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:24,280
Speaker 1: Everything looks pretty good.

2396
01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:29,679
Speaker 2: Let's see he's wearing a glove on his right hand.

2397
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:31,880
Speaker 1: Ah. I can't tell a couple of things. If you

2398
01:51:31,960 --> 01:51:34,479
Speaker 1: rest the bar there too long and it's not properly

2399
01:51:34,479 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 1: sitting on your clavicles. It can actually choke you, like

2400
01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:39,080
Speaker 1: a rear naked choke a little bit, and then he

2401
01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:40,400
Speaker 1: kind of leans backward and it.

2402
01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:43,439
Speaker 2: Just takes tap or nap. Bitch. Let's go to a

2403
01:51:43,439 --> 01:51:49,080
Speaker 2: white guy on on a pier. This guy got a

2404
01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:49,679
Speaker 2: pair of balls.

2405
01:51:49,840 --> 01:51:52,320
Speaker 1: Try this asshole get off the bike moron?

2406
01:51:54,280 --> 01:51:57,000
Speaker 2: All right, hey, genius alert, Luke. Check out this invention.

2407
01:51:57,080 --> 01:51:58,439
Speaker 2: They call it the bicycle chair.

2408
01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:03,800
Speaker 1: Your thoughts, Oh Jesus Christ, what's this fucking idiot about

2409
01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:09,240
Speaker 1: to do? I mean, only a person with this haircut?

2410
01:52:12,439 --> 01:52:14,639
Speaker 2: I mean it's pretty pretty inventive, right.

2411
01:52:15,680 --> 01:52:18,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're a moron who had looks like he

2412
01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:21,440
Speaker 1: cuts his hair after he loses a bet, sure.

2413
01:52:21,439 --> 01:52:24,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that guy's got party of business mixed together all

2414
01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:24,960
Speaker 2: over that head.

2415
01:52:25,000 --> 01:52:27,639
Speaker 1: Luke. All right, that dude, that dude has never pleased

2416
01:52:27,640 --> 01:52:29,960
Speaker 1: a woman in his life. Just never happened.

2417
01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:33,200
Speaker 2: Hey, Luke, it's clear that this next kids has got

2418
01:52:33,240 --> 01:52:34,880
Speaker 2: to stick up his ass, you know what I'm saying.

2419
01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:41,960
Speaker 1: And his name is Plunk.

2420
01:52:43,040 --> 01:52:45,840
Speaker 2: He could have used the bicycle chair, to be fair, Luke, Right.

2421
01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:49,840
Speaker 1: This kid is too comfortable for this. I don't know this.

2422
01:52:50,240 --> 01:52:52,479
Speaker 2: Hey, look let's play a new game. It's called Hot

2423
01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:55,599
Speaker 2: or Not. I'm going to show you a questionable video

2424
01:52:55,640 --> 01:52:58,000
Speaker 2: involving female activity. All you have to tell me is

2425
01:52:58,040 --> 01:52:59,360
Speaker 2: hot or not? Okay, are you aroused?

2426
01:52:59,400 --> 01:52:59,800
Speaker 1: Here we go.

2427
01:53:01,560 --> 01:53:04,720
Speaker 2: Let's go to the great state of Maryland for some

2428
01:53:06,400 --> 01:53:07,800
Speaker 2: for some drunken times, seen this.

2429
01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's hot. Okay, she's an animal you have.

2430
01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:14,800
Speaker 2: The reactions are priceless, Luke, Yep, there it is.

2431
01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:17,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's two thumbs up from this guy.

2432
01:53:18,200 --> 01:53:21,439
Speaker 2: Okay, hot, hot or not. It's lunchtime. Let's get some wings.

2433
01:53:21,479 --> 01:53:31,599
Speaker 1: Luke. You wouldn't happen to have her number, would you.

2434
01:53:31,680 --> 01:53:33,599
Speaker 2: Well, do you have to bury a body or what?

2435
01:53:34,520 --> 01:53:36,040
Speaker 1: You gotta bury something?

2436
01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:41,400
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, it's it's it's it's it's BBL time

2437
01:53:41,479 --> 01:53:42,479
Speaker 2: on the Hot or Not game?

2438
01:53:42,600 --> 01:53:52,240
Speaker 1: Luke, Oh god, oh god. Okay, I mean you just

2439
01:53:52,360 --> 01:53:53,880
Speaker 1: saw this one coming.

2440
01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:58,240
Speaker 2: The next entry, So that not hot? Not hot is

2441
01:53:58,240 --> 01:53:58,599
Speaker 2: your answer?

2442
01:53:58,920 --> 01:53:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a zero for me.

2443
01:54:00,479 --> 01:54:03,479
Speaker 2: Okay, what about this next lady. She's a performer in

2444
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:06,240
Speaker 2: a sport called mouth gymnastics.

2445
01:54:08,280 --> 01:54:10,960
Speaker 1: Once again, I don't know if you'd have her contact infest,

2446
01:54:11,120 --> 01:54:12,280
Speaker 1: but if you.

2447
01:54:12,280 --> 01:54:15,320
Speaker 2: Did, imagine if we hired her for the live show

2448
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:17,160
Speaker 2: in London where she just did this the whole the

2449
01:54:17,160 --> 01:54:18,040
Speaker 2: whole ninety minutes.

2450
01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:21,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, i'd I'd be willing to uh. And Plus

2451
01:54:21,479 --> 01:54:23,040
Speaker 1: you can just fold her into your luggage.

2452
01:54:23,160 --> 01:54:26,160
Speaker 2: There you go. You don't have to pay on Southwest

2453
01:54:26,160 --> 01:54:28,680
Speaker 2: for her. Yeah, it's great, Luke. Let's take it the

2454
01:54:28,720 --> 01:54:32,440
Speaker 2: same topic over to the UH. Over to the inventive

2455
01:54:32,480 --> 01:54:34,760
Speaker 2: smoking machines. They call this a banana bong.

2456
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:45,640
Speaker 4: Hot or not, Luke, stupid but fine, Okay, you're like,

2457
01:54:45,720 --> 01:54:48,560
Speaker 4: not my type, but hot if you like that stuff.

2458
01:54:49,000 --> 01:54:49,680
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2459
01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:52,080
Speaker 2: And finally, let's go to the wrestling match. Here's some

2460
01:54:52,160 --> 01:54:56,400
Speaker 2: female amateur wrestling involving an oil change, Luke, hot or not?

2461
01:55:01,320 --> 01:55:03,920
Speaker 1: I mean she's just gripping the tailbone.

2462
01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:08,320
Speaker 2: Looks more like the taint bone where I come from, Luke.

2463
01:55:08,360 --> 01:55:08,840
Speaker 2: But there we go.

2464
01:55:09,920 --> 01:55:11,760
Speaker 1: All right, all.

2465
01:55:11,720 --> 01:55:14,760
Speaker 2: Right, hey, let's get back into fails. Poor Lonnie. Right,

2466
01:55:14,840 --> 01:55:19,960
Speaker 2: let's check this out. Sit right back?

2467
01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:24,440
Speaker 1: Here is run one. Oh Jesus surprised?

2468
01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:28,320
Speaker 2: Are you all right?

2469
01:55:28,960 --> 01:55:31,640
Speaker 1: Yeah? No?

2470
01:55:32,160 --> 01:55:35,520
Speaker 2: Is not terry reverse? Please? Lonnie is not alright.

2471
01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:38,120
Speaker 1: No, he's not doing great. He's not doing great.

2472
01:55:38,480 --> 01:55:40,960
Speaker 2: Al Right, Hey, it's virtual reality time. Let's check out

2473
01:55:40,960 --> 01:55:44,760
Speaker 2: this poor guy.

2474
01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:48,400
Speaker 1: Come on, man in the elevator. Oh wait, someone standing.

2475
01:55:49,040 --> 01:55:50,920
Speaker 1: Never stand next to someone doing.

2476
01:55:53,520 --> 01:55:59,280
Speaker 2: Oh that was worse than Derek Minor versus that other guy.

2477
01:55:59,400 --> 01:55:59,760
Speaker 2: Look great?

2478
01:56:00,040 --> 01:56:00,320
Speaker 1: Wow.

2479
01:56:00,400 --> 01:56:04,760
Speaker 2: Okay, Unfortunately, big week for spousal abuse in MMA, Luke,

2480
01:56:05,600 --> 01:56:07,480
Speaker 2: you know, unfortunately.

2481
01:56:07,800 --> 01:56:09,760
Speaker 1: I think every week is a big week for spousal

2482
01:56:09,800 --> 01:56:10,920
Speaker 1: abuse at MMA.

2483
01:56:12,040 --> 01:56:15,800
Speaker 2: Oh Jesus, is that is that a scissors kick? What

2484
01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:17,560
Speaker 2: do you call that? A question mark kick?

2485
01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:22,160
Speaker 1: Dude? That's just dopey white guy looking like a fucking

2486
01:56:22,240 --> 01:56:22,680
Speaker 1: dumb ass.

2487
01:56:22,880 --> 01:56:26,400
Speaker 2: That's assault. Brother? Uh you ever wonder if beekeepers get

2488
01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:27,040
Speaker 2: stung a lot?

2489
01:56:28,400 --> 01:56:28,560
Speaker 1: No?

2490
01:56:29,960 --> 01:56:42,600
Speaker 2: Maybe not because they're professional. Oh lord, I'm having flashbacks.

2491
01:56:42,360 --> 01:56:53,360
Speaker 1: Fucking man on a ladder a dude, of all the

2492
01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:54,880
Speaker 1: ways that could have gone that way.

2493
01:56:54,960 --> 01:56:56,360
Speaker 2: Yes, that's bad.

2494
01:56:56,680 --> 01:57:00,080
Speaker 1: Hey do you know I'm allergic, like deathly allergic to

2495
01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:01,000
Speaker 1: to beastings?

2496
01:57:01,160 --> 01:57:02,000
Speaker 2: I did not know that.

2497
01:57:02,280 --> 01:57:03,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. I used to have to. I mean I probably

2498
01:57:03,800 --> 01:57:05,080
Speaker 1: still should. I used to have to for most of

2499
01:57:05,080 --> 01:57:06,720
Speaker 1: my life. I had to carry around a little kit

2500
01:57:07,080 --> 01:57:10,160
Speaker 1: that has like an epinephrin penitent to get jammed with

2501
01:57:10,200 --> 01:57:11,160
Speaker 1: if I get stung.

2502
01:57:11,080 --> 01:57:12,960
Speaker 2: So I may have to stab you in the heart

2503
01:57:13,000 --> 01:57:15,200
Speaker 2: with a pen if you get hip stung by a

2504
01:57:15,240 --> 01:57:16,280
Speaker 2: bee when we're working together.

2505
01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:17,880
Speaker 1: I think you can do it just in the thigh,

2506
01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:19,560
Speaker 1: but yes, damn.

2507
01:57:20,520 --> 01:57:22,520
Speaker 2: Hey, I don't know if you saw this video. Josh Emmett,

2508
01:57:22,520 --> 01:57:26,440
Speaker 2: who will be fighting for the UFC Interim featherweight title

2509
01:57:26,440 --> 01:57:31,400
Speaker 2: against Jia Rodriguez coming up, He posted a video music

2510
01:57:31,440 --> 01:57:35,080
Speaker 2: video highlighting him working out and preparing and look at

2511
01:57:35,120 --> 01:57:36,320
Speaker 2: the shirt he chose.

2512
01:57:36,360 --> 01:57:43,720
Speaker 1: Brother, Wow, old mk m all day Okay, all freakin' day. Okay,

2513
01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:45,600
Speaker 1: I got a big, old scruffy beard. Now.

2514
01:57:45,880 --> 01:57:48,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that means he's been putting in that work, Lucy. Yeah,

2515
01:57:48,440 --> 01:57:52,000
Speaker 2: it does all or nothing. Twenty five minutes to make

2516
01:57:52,000 --> 01:57:52,280
Speaker 2: it all.

2517
01:57:53,080 --> 01:57:54,000
Speaker 1: What do you say with fair?

2518
01:57:54,240 --> 01:57:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, make life fair. Here we go. That's it. That's it,

2519
01:57:56,680 --> 01:57:59,360
Speaker 2: Josh Emmett, love you. Thanks for wearing that, bro. I

2520
01:57:59,360 --> 01:58:01,320
Speaker 2: mean we had rough On Stotts in the jacket. We

2521
01:58:01,360 --> 01:58:03,840
Speaker 2: had Christian Duguero put us on his balls. Luke, we're

2522
01:58:03,840 --> 01:58:06,120
Speaker 2: making moves in this space, right, that's what we do,

2523
01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:09,840
Speaker 2: all right, no shame alert. Check out this guitar solo.

2524
01:58:14,720 --> 01:58:18,600
Speaker 1: Not quite Hicks and Grayskie asked there with the stomach control.

2525
01:58:21,920 --> 01:58:25,160
Speaker 2: Okay, hey, maybe early in twenty twenty three, but here

2526
01:58:25,200 --> 01:58:27,560
Speaker 2: are my nominees for Fight of the Year so far.

2527
01:58:30,560 --> 01:58:31,600
Speaker 2: The original shoe.

2528
01:58:31,480 --> 01:58:33,600
Speaker 1: We Oh they got the chin claws out?

2529
01:58:34,680 --> 01:58:36,600
Speaker 2: Is this how they settle a beef in their in

2530
01:58:36,640 --> 01:58:37,400
Speaker 2: their culture, Luke?

2531
01:58:37,600 --> 01:58:41,840
Speaker 1: I guess it's like a hockey fight with sandals.

2532
01:58:42,280 --> 01:58:45,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, who is elder abuse squared?

2533
01:58:46,240 --> 01:58:48,040
Speaker 1: How does this want end? Right? He's got sleeve and

2534
01:58:48,080 --> 01:58:49,120
Speaker 1: then collar control.

2535
01:58:50,600 --> 01:58:52,640
Speaker 2: Oh her Dean's gonna stand them up? Play at this?

2536
01:58:58,680 --> 01:59:01,800
Speaker 1: All right? Just fighting about hopefully a woman, Luke.

2537
01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:04,640
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to let's go to the bikes here.

2538
01:59:09,200 --> 01:59:11,320
Speaker 1: Oh geez, you punched a guy with a helmet and

2539
01:59:11,360 --> 01:59:12,400
Speaker 1: he's he's losing.

2540
01:59:12,720 --> 01:59:19,240
Speaker 2: He's lighting him up. Dude, damn got punched through the target. Luke,

2541
01:59:19,280 --> 01:59:19,720
Speaker 2: Look at that.

2542
01:59:19,880 --> 01:59:22,320
Speaker 1: I'm like, you got the helmet on? Fucking do something?

2543
01:59:22,480 --> 01:59:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, head about the guy do something with it. Oh,

2544
01:59:25,000 --> 01:59:28,240
Speaker 2: let's go to a concert. No, this ain't uh, this ain't.

2545
01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:30,800
Speaker 2: What do they call that band that you like eating

2546
01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:32,520
Speaker 2: my arteries? What do you call it? Oh, cannibal corpse?

2547
01:59:32,560 --> 01:59:33,560
Speaker 2: This ain't cannibal corpse?

2548
01:59:33,640 --> 01:59:33,840
Speaker 1: Luke?

2549
01:59:33,880 --> 01:59:37,320
Speaker 2: Oh whoa what are we doing here? My bad? I

2550
01:59:37,360 --> 01:59:39,520
Speaker 2: skipped it one ahead? Look at this sidewalk slam in

2551
01:59:39,560 --> 01:59:41,000
Speaker 2: the street fight, Luke, great fight.

2552
01:59:41,800 --> 01:59:43,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, he catches the kick, although he eats it a

2553
01:59:43,600 --> 01:59:45,800
Speaker 1: little bit, and then just whips him up on his

2554
01:59:45,920 --> 01:59:48,360
Speaker 1: back like how kind of like a weird fireman's carry,

2555
01:59:48,920 --> 01:59:51,920
Speaker 1: and then just slams him into the cement.

2556
01:59:52,280 --> 01:59:55,040
Speaker 2: Let the boys boys on that one, all right? This

2557
01:59:55,160 --> 01:59:57,280
Speaker 2: next one not cannibal corpse, but it did produce a

2558
01:59:57,320 --> 02:00:00,760
Speaker 2: great fight ending moment. Here is is capa Ware a

2559
02:00:00,880 --> 02:00:03,040
Speaker 2: legend chef cast? I'm not sure.

2560
02:00:05,760 --> 02:00:09,160
Speaker 1: No, you know it's not chef cast. Metal things on

2561
02:00:09,200 --> 02:00:10,040
Speaker 1: his arms.

2562
02:00:10,400 --> 02:00:14,000
Speaker 2: That's true. That is very true, right there? Oh wow, Okay.

2563
02:00:13,840 --> 02:00:15,040
Speaker 1: Well that's a pretty good kick.

2564
02:00:15,760 --> 02:00:17,720
Speaker 2: That's not bad. And he helped him up afterwards, does

2565
02:00:17,800 --> 02:00:21,760
Speaker 2: very polite, damn. And finally, Luke, there's spent some great

2566
02:00:21,800 --> 02:00:24,000
Speaker 2: golf course brawls lately. This might be the best one

2567
02:00:24,040 --> 02:00:24,560
Speaker 2: I've ever seen.

2568
02:00:26,760 --> 02:00:29,200
Speaker 1: Is it John Daily versus Water? Oh? Here we are.

2569
02:00:30,200 --> 02:00:35,160
Speaker 1: Oh shit, stripped him? Stripped him? Oh no, shit, he

2570
02:00:35,240 --> 02:00:38,200
Speaker 1: got the flag. We're just whacking these hose.

2571
02:00:38,720 --> 02:00:39,600
Speaker 2: To get a hole in one.

2572
02:00:39,720 --> 02:00:45,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know they're fighting over something fucking insanely stupid, Yes,

2573
02:00:45,480 --> 02:00:47,640
Speaker 1: like who's got the last course light or something?

2574
02:00:47,680 --> 02:00:55,320
Speaker 3: You know, looks like John Furry right, Big John. Yeah,

2575
02:00:55,640 --> 02:00:58,520
Speaker 3: I guess he'll hook your eye out.

2576
02:00:58,560 --> 02:01:01,200
Speaker 2: Look, you gotta be careful. Okay, it's been a rough

2577
02:01:01,240 --> 02:01:04,480
Speaker 2: month for bbls in this part at least, Luke. You

2578
02:01:04,560 --> 02:01:06,120
Speaker 2: ever seen a BBL on a skateboard?

2579
02:01:10,920 --> 02:01:11,080
Speaker 1: Oh?

2580
02:01:11,120 --> 02:01:13,120
Speaker 2: I keep skipping, man, I am sorry, my.

2581
02:01:13,080 --> 02:01:15,680
Speaker 1: Bad on this. Yeah, this is going great.

2582
02:01:15,960 --> 02:01:18,760
Speaker 2: That's drunken ski ball. Your thoughts? Uh?

2583
02:01:18,800 --> 02:01:21,000
Speaker 1: Pretty cool? Actually he was able to do that, I

2584
02:01:21,040 --> 02:01:26,000
Speaker 1: have to say, although his old face I could do without.

2585
02:01:27,160 --> 02:01:29,520
Speaker 2: All Right, let's go to the b It's BBL time, Luke.

2586
02:01:29,520 --> 02:01:31,360
Speaker 2: They've had a rough turn a few times here. I

2587
02:01:31,360 --> 02:01:33,080
Speaker 2: mean bbls. We gotta protect them. We got to get

2588
02:01:33,120 --> 02:01:33,959
Speaker 2: them off the skateboard.

2589
02:01:33,960 --> 02:01:37,680
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, what the fuck is this? You know?

2590
02:01:37,920 --> 02:01:41,360
Speaker 2: And uh, sometimes you ask Santa for what you really

2591
02:01:41,400 --> 02:01:43,640
Speaker 2: want and sometimes it doesn't come through. Let's see this

2592
02:01:43,720 --> 02:01:44,400
Speaker 2: next guy's fate.

2593
02:01:46,520 --> 02:01:47,720
Speaker 1: Guys, I can't believe it.

2594
02:01:47,720 --> 02:01:50,720
Speaker 2: It's Christmas Eve and there is no gift here that

2595
02:01:50,840 --> 02:01:52,720
Speaker 2: is shaped like a big body Latino.

2596
02:01:53,000 --> 02:01:58,720
Speaker 1: This is an El Christmas? Is it? No? No El Christmas?

2597
02:02:01,600 --> 02:02:04,320
Speaker 2: Look? Did you have an OL Christmas? Like that? Guy?

2598
02:02:06,640 --> 02:02:10,320
Speaker 1: No? I'm married. I'm married one so every.

2599
02:02:10,120 --> 02:02:14,520
Speaker 2: Day looks like not only did I study abroad? I

2600
02:02:14,680 --> 02:02:16,480
Speaker 2: married her? Yeah?

2601
02:02:16,960 --> 02:02:19,200
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, very easy for me.

2602
02:02:19,800 --> 02:02:23,000
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Hey, Fighters in the Wild, Luke Mma,

2603
02:02:23,080 --> 02:02:26,360
Speaker 2: Fighters in the Wild. Did you see Israel Attasnia break

2604
02:02:26,360 --> 02:02:30,120
Speaker 2: out the crip walk on stage at an exhibit concert?

2605
02:02:30,320 --> 02:02:32,040
Speaker 1: I did see this, but I didn't quite see a

2606
02:02:32,080 --> 02:02:35,080
Speaker 1: full on crip walk, like a heel toe of it

2607
02:02:35,200 --> 02:02:36,760
Speaker 1: A little bit. That's not quite right.

2608
02:02:37,440 --> 02:02:39,480
Speaker 2: I haven't seen exhibit since he was in the fifty

2609
02:02:39,520 --> 02:02:41,960
Speaker 2: seventh video right find him in the club?

2610
02:02:42,600 --> 02:02:44,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to. I mean I haven't quite seen

2611
02:02:44,840 --> 02:02:46,920
Speaker 1: the crip walk yet. Oh there's a little bit, a

2612
02:02:46,920 --> 02:02:49,040
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah.

2613
02:02:49,720 --> 02:02:50,440
Speaker 2: Is he wild now?

2614
02:02:50,600 --> 02:02:53,839
Speaker 1: Right? Living? He's living New Zealand was exhibit in New Zealand.

2615
02:02:54,160 --> 02:02:55,520
Speaker 2: I don't have confirmation on that.

2616
02:02:58,120 --> 02:02:59,960
Speaker 1: I gotta tell like, it doesn't look like he's taking

2617
02:03:00,040 --> 02:03:04,000
Speaker 1: the loss too hard. Huh. Look at exhibit on top.

2618
02:03:04,080 --> 02:03:05,360
Speaker 1: He's so fat, now.

2619
02:03:06,200 --> 02:03:08,720
Speaker 2: That's true, Like like Trick Daddy when we saw him

2620
02:03:08,720 --> 02:03:09,680
Speaker 2: in Miami, Luke.

2621
02:03:10,720 --> 02:03:13,760
Speaker 1: Trick Daddy was the fattest man I've ever seen. This

2622
02:03:13,800 --> 02:03:15,040
Speaker 1: would be very real about that.

2623
02:03:15,080 --> 02:03:17,120
Speaker 2: What is hanging out of Isy's mouth, is that a

2624
02:03:17,160 --> 02:03:18,640
Speaker 2: straw or a uh?

2625
02:03:18,640 --> 02:03:18,960
Speaker 1: Probably?

2626
02:03:20,200 --> 02:03:24,480
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right? Uh he was there, Luke of

2627
02:03:24,560 --> 02:03:30,160
Speaker 2: the exhibit. But in Brazil, Poeton Alex Padetta showed up

2628
02:03:30,200 --> 02:03:34,280
Speaker 2: to an indigenous tribe in full gear. Luke to bring

2629
02:03:34,320 --> 02:03:37,400
Speaker 2: the belt around to the to the Brazilian locals. And

2630
02:03:38,120 --> 02:03:40,240
Speaker 2: this guy looks scarier than he ever has.

2631
02:03:40,360 --> 02:03:43,800
Speaker 1: Luke. Look at that is some sad, some serious ship

2632
02:03:43,920 --> 02:03:46,640
Speaker 1: right there. I don't know what it all means, but

2633
02:03:47,040 --> 02:03:48,880
Speaker 1: I know it means enough to know you got to

2634
02:03:48,880 --> 02:03:50,760
Speaker 1: take this motherfucker very seriously.

2635
02:03:51,360 --> 02:03:53,480
Speaker 2: Indeed, I always love this moment. By the way, when

2636
02:03:53,520 --> 02:03:56,400
Speaker 2: when fighters of other countries, when when the UFC title,

2637
02:03:56,400 --> 02:03:57,720
Speaker 2: they go show up at the airport and they go

2638
02:03:57,800 --> 02:04:00,000
Speaker 2: back to their people and they have a big welcome.

2639
02:04:00,280 --> 02:04:02,960
Speaker 2: This happened for Edson Barbosa, who went back to his

2640
02:04:03,000 --> 02:04:07,360
Speaker 2: Brazilian hometown to show off a mural they put together

2641
02:04:07,400 --> 02:04:13,280
Speaker 2: for him. Kind of looks like Henn and Burrow, right.

2642
02:04:14,000 --> 02:04:16,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't say it exactly looks just like him.

2643
02:04:16,080 --> 02:04:19,600
Speaker 2: But you're getting mister hebas tattoo vibes or no.

2644
02:04:19,640 --> 02:04:23,720
Speaker 1: Looks like Wally Ishmael a little bit. And then is

2645
02:04:23,720 --> 02:04:27,400
Speaker 1: that him there? Yeah? I guess yeah, sort.

2646
02:04:27,320 --> 02:04:31,320
Speaker 2: Uh, okay, okay, we got two more for you here.

2647
02:04:31,400 --> 02:04:35,000
Speaker 2: Luke file photo time I saw this come across my timeline.

2648
02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:38,360
Speaker 2: This is Tiger Woods in nineteen ninety seven at a

2649
02:04:38,440 --> 02:04:42,760
Speaker 2: Hooters restaurant, moments after winning his first Masters. Look how

2650
02:04:42,800 --> 02:04:44,040
Speaker 2: happy he is, Luke.

2651
02:04:44,160 --> 02:04:47,440
Speaker 1: Thought he went to work on these three. Believe that, oh,

2652
02:04:47,520 --> 02:04:48,480
Speaker 1: come on, come on?

2653
02:04:48,920 --> 02:04:51,360
Speaker 2: More than a mouthful, Luke, I believe it's their slogan.

2654
02:04:52,120 --> 02:04:53,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if he was wearing pants in this picture,

2655
02:04:53,960 --> 02:04:58,320
Speaker 2: but a very happy young tiger getting thick in there

2656
02:04:58,400 --> 02:05:00,840
Speaker 2: right say all right?

2657
02:05:01,000 --> 02:05:02,160
Speaker 1: It was in the brush.

2658
02:05:02,320 --> 02:05:04,800
Speaker 2: And finally, your celebration of the week comes from the

2659
02:05:04,840 --> 02:05:08,080
Speaker 2: New York Football Giants. Luke, we should celebrate the end

2660
02:05:08,120 --> 02:05:10,440
Speaker 2: of each successful episode this way. What are your thoughts?

2661
02:05:15,400 --> 02:05:19,240
Speaker 1: We should end the live show that way.

2662
02:05:19,680 --> 02:05:22,520
Speaker 2: We should build a human tunnel on stage and have

2663
02:05:22,640 --> 02:05:24,400
Speaker 2: Appy be the dong that just runs through it.

2664
02:05:24,440 --> 02:05:26,680
Speaker 1: What do you think that we're not doing that? You

2665
02:05:26,720 --> 02:05:29,920
Speaker 1: love the weirdos? I mean you just can't get enough

2666
02:05:29,960 --> 02:05:33,680
Speaker 1: of Okay, se BC stray cats in the alley is like,

2667
02:05:33,760 --> 02:05:36,280
Speaker 1: let's leave them all milk And I'm like, okay, you

2668
02:05:36,280 --> 02:05:37,320
Speaker 1: shouldn't do that.

2669
02:05:37,320 --> 02:05:39,080
Speaker 2: That's the ship for the week. Hope you enjoyed it.

2670
02:05:39,080 --> 02:05:42,920
Speaker 2: But look, I get maybe your reticence on good old

2671
02:05:42,920 --> 02:05:45,560
Speaker 2: Appleton himself, you know, a comedic genius, but he has

2672
02:05:45,640 --> 02:05:48,440
Speaker 2: to take risks to get there. Is there anybody you're

2673
02:05:48,480 --> 02:05:49,960
Speaker 2: excited to meeting? Are we going to do a meet

2674
02:05:50,000 --> 02:05:52,040
Speaker 2: and greet a receiving line? I mean, are you excited

2675
02:05:52,080 --> 02:05:56,200
Speaker 2: to meet all these rabid UK plus hardcores of the

2676
02:05:56,320 --> 02:05:57,880
Speaker 2: MK brand who are coming out for us?

2677
02:05:57,960 --> 02:05:59,760
Speaker 1: I certainly am. And if they want to come join us,

2678
02:05:59,800 --> 02:06:01,480
Speaker 1: they can. We'll put the QR code up on the

2679
02:06:01,480 --> 02:06:04,200
Speaker 1: screen right now. You can go to poddash live dot

2680
02:06:04,200 --> 02:06:06,760
Speaker 1: com to come see us. Yes, I'm happy to meet

2681
02:06:06,800 --> 02:06:08,640
Speaker 1: any of them, give them all COVID because I'm sure

2682
02:06:08,640 --> 02:06:10,440
Speaker 1: they'll give me COVID and we can just have a

2683
02:06:10,800 --> 02:06:13,920
Speaker 1: big day about it. And uh but in all seriousness,

2684
02:06:14,000 --> 02:06:16,480
Speaker 1: I will meet anyone who won't wants to meet. We

2685
02:06:16,520 --> 02:06:21,240
Speaker 1: will do some kind of you know, meeting greedish type thing.

2686
02:06:21,280 --> 02:06:23,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to call it anything without talking to

2687
02:06:23,600 --> 02:06:26,760
Speaker 1: the producers first, but we'll do something to engage with

2688
02:06:26,800 --> 02:06:28,960
Speaker 1: the fans besides just the show itself. I'm sure.

2689
02:06:29,640 --> 02:06:32,040
Speaker 2: All right, So if you're making that trek, we'll be

2690
02:06:32,080 --> 02:06:35,400
Speaker 2: looking to at least wave to you from distance. No, well,

2691
02:06:35,480 --> 02:06:36,360
Speaker 2: maybe even touch you.

2692
02:06:36,600 --> 02:06:38,000
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll take a picture off.

2693
02:06:39,240 --> 02:06:41,440
Speaker 2: I won't offer up the harvest thing of my organs,

2694
02:06:41,440 --> 02:06:43,360
Speaker 2: but I'm I'll at least put myself in a position

2695
02:06:43,560 --> 02:06:45,520
Speaker 2: I'm where I have to wonder what their intention is.

2696
02:06:45,600 --> 02:06:48,960
Speaker 1: Right, you will always do that, so that would be

2697
02:06:49,040 --> 02:06:51,200
Speaker 1: not new, that would be the continuous thing that you do.

2698
02:06:51,480 --> 02:06:54,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm looking for all my Welshian men unite because

2699
02:06:54,880 --> 02:06:56,000
Speaker 2: your adopted brothers here.

2700
02:06:56,040 --> 02:06:59,640
Speaker 1: Okay, Simru all right, So I want to remind folks

2701
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Speaker 1: Showtime dot com thirty day free trial. If feel like it,

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2704
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Speaker 1: can go to the website Morningcombat dot Store to get

2705
02:07:09,760 --> 02:07:11,240
Speaker 1: some merch. By the way, if you come out to

2706
02:07:11,360 --> 02:07:14,960
Speaker 1: King's Place in London and you've got merch wear, it

2707
02:07:15,000 --> 02:07:19,560
Speaker 1: definitely be that guy show up. Definitely wear it, no problem.

2708
02:07:19,600 --> 02:07:20,960
Speaker 1: That would be a cool thing. We'd love to see

2709
02:07:20,960 --> 02:07:22,840
Speaker 1: that if you can. So just sort of a bit

2710
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Speaker 1: there as well. And Morning comment at gmail dot com

2711
02:07:25,400 --> 02:07:27,840
Speaker 1: for Wednesday's fan subs. Friday is dead wrong plus. As

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Speaker 1: the week goes on, we'll preview these upcoming UFC and

2713
02:07:30,560 --> 02:07:33,520
Speaker 1: one cards as well. Do you see any final thoughts

2714
02:07:33,520 --> 02:07:34,320
Speaker 1: before we get out of here.

2715
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Speaker 2: Thank you to our viewers. Thank you for everybody who

2716
02:07:38,600 --> 02:07:40,840
Speaker 2: sent in them the really nice comments on our coverage

2717
02:07:40,880 --> 02:07:45,040
Speaker 2: of different big time topics last week. You know, no

2718
02:07:45,160 --> 02:07:47,800
Speaker 2: need to relitigate those, but those who know, they know,

2719
02:07:47,880 --> 02:07:50,920
Speaker 2: and we appreciate y'all. Thank you so much. It's not easy, Luke.

2720
02:07:51,280 --> 02:07:55,040
Speaker 2: It's why I don't hold necessarily against people who work

2721
02:07:55,080 --> 02:07:57,440
Speaker 2: for different certain companies and can't make big stinks out

2722
02:07:57,440 --> 02:07:59,320
Speaker 2: of things because maybe they have to protect their own job.

2723
02:07:59,360 --> 02:08:01,160
Speaker 2: I'm more mad at the companies in those ways. But

2724
02:08:01,440 --> 02:08:03,880
Speaker 2: a weird time right now in the overall news cycle,

2725
02:08:04,440 --> 02:08:09,120
Speaker 2: and I thought we got it right, Luke, so I'm happy.

2726
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Speaker 1: We did our best. I could say that we certainly

2727
02:08:12,120 --> 02:08:15,240
Speaker 1: did our best. So we appreciate everyone who watched the

2728
02:08:15,320 --> 02:08:17,880
Speaker 1: live stream or any of last week's shows, anything, anything

2729
02:08:17,880 --> 02:08:21,560
Speaker 1: we did, we appreciate it. And yeah, we're back on Wednesday.

2730
02:08:21,600 --> 02:08:24,560
Speaker 1: So for Brian Campbell for CBS Sports, for Malka for Showtime,

2731
02:08:24,600 --> 02:08:26,520
Speaker 1: all the great crew that was on the ground there,

2732
02:08:26,560 --> 02:08:28,440
Speaker 1: as was everyone behind the scenes doing all the great work.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you back on Wednesday and until then, may

2734
02:08:31,760 --> 02:08:33,720
Speaker 1: all of your gains be loyal