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Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody, It's Thursday, August twenty eighth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where our takeo

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Speaker 1: meter is running low. It's being your Man. MG Mark

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Speaker 1: is graduated by Michael Florio and mcwan Jones. It's Friday Junior.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we are here, Friday Junior.

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Speaker 1: It's Friday Junior, and I am I'm true, like I'm

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Speaker 1: running out of takes, like we need real football.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I got to ask the for Insiders. They were

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Speaker 3: like what, and I was like, I don't like it.

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Speaker 3: For the Today's show, I was like, I could do

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Speaker 3: Travon again, but everyone has heard me talk about him forever,

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Speaker 3: so like it gets tough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm at the point. I mean, Fantasy Live We've

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Speaker 1: been on for like two weeks, and I'm like, I can't.

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Speaker 1: I can't keep telling people about like Elik Iomanor and

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Speaker 1: Jamison Williams and and Tyler Warren, Like you guys, you

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Speaker 1: guys know the stick by Now, that's it. That's it.

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Speaker 2: I stopped saying, Believer. It's been nixt tape season only

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Speaker 2: when I've been asked to, like Yesterday's show, but I

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Speaker 2: haven't been on Twitter. Streets or the Fantasy street saying

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Speaker 2: much about R. J. Harvey and Bo Nicks.

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Speaker 1: Will you ever give up Trevor mid Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: No, he needs to prove me wrong.

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Speaker 3: What does he have to do this year to lose

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Speaker 3: that nickname?

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Speaker 2: Forty five hundred yards about thirty thirty five touchdowns? He

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Speaker 2: needs dak Or Joe Burrow numbers to remove the mid

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Speaker 2: To be honest, because there's much hype he's gotten to

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Speaker 2: getting into this league, John Elway Andrew Luck we have

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Speaker 2: yet to see it.

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Speaker 1: So, like, let's say he finish his QB, he needs

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Speaker 1: to blow his career.

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Speaker 3: Trevor mid Lawrence career high. I knows twenty five touchdown passes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, if he finishes like QB twelve, is that good enough? No,

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Speaker 1: because he's done that before.

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Speaker 2: But like he needs to be what he has paid,

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Speaker 2: which is a top five quarterback.

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Speaker 3: What if he outscores Matthew Stafford never, you know, it's

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Speaker 3: too early in the show to be stirring the pop.

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Speaker 3: My god, I don't know if he's gonna outscore Bright

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Speaker 3: Brock Party.

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Speaker 2: That's a wild disrespectful to even put those names next

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Speaker 2: to each other. Wow, it's so easy you.

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Speaker 3: Gotta be like there's like one button, it just goes

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Speaker 3: just right there.

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Speaker 1: Uh. You know, because we are running low on takes,

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Speaker 1: we figured we'd make this the bold prediction slash hot

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Speaker 1: take episode. Uh so we got one of each. Each

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Speaker 1: have a bull prediction, we each have a hot take. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll kind of dig around.

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Speaker 3: It next time after this show, the next time we

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Speaker 3: talk to the listeners on this show, there will be

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Speaker 3: week one Week one.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, In fact, let you know, now, Monday is

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Speaker 1: a holiday, so no Monday show will be back with

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Speaker 1: you video shows on Wednesday and Friday. So at that

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Speaker 1: point we will be previewing week one games Crazy, So

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Speaker 1: you can start setting RJ Harvey all all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: I'm not talking about r J Harvey the last one.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so we're gonna get into that in just

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Speaker 1: a little bit. But figure we do a little bit

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Speaker 1: of hype trainer smoke screen. There are some headline ish

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Speaker 1: type things, but not true headlines, but some interesting things,

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Speaker 1: I think, so we can sort of kick around a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Mentioned Amari Cooper going back to the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: He says he still has some juice left. The last

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Speaker 1: time we saw him, things weren't so great, didn't do

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Speaker 1: all that well in Buffalo. I mean, so Florio you

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Speaker 1: as a Buffalo Bills fan having seen him hype Trader

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Speaker 1: smoke screen on Amari Cooper having juice.

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Speaker 3: Left for real life, I'll say hype train for fantasy,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say smoke screen like. I still think he

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Speaker 3: can be someone who helps the Raiders, like UH could contribute,

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Speaker 3: could be one of their UH in their wide receiver rotation, right,

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Speaker 3: but I don't think he is. The days of Amari

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Speaker 3: Cooper being like a mustard option in fantasy are gone.

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Speaker 3: And and I've not only a Bills fan. I'm been

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Speaker 3: I went through his step page and like in the

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Speaker 3: he's getting up there in age, I feel like he's

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean that is sort of where wide receivers

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Speaker 1: go down Tennessee. I mean, just swiled the fall off, right,

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Speaker 1: because twenty twenty three in Cleveland he had twelve hundred yards,

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Speaker 1: and then twenty twenty four it just wasn't happening. Then

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Speaker 1: does he still have juice left for you? Ok?

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Speaker 2: No, the juice is bad. I mean Cleveland drained it dry.

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Speaker 2: I mean obviously the drop off after that. But like

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Speaker 2: I have no interest in fantasy with him, Like I

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Speaker 2: won't even acknowledge him in my takes. I'm gonna be

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Speaker 2: talking about Jacoby Myers if he's still in a Raiders jersey,

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Speaker 2: and we'll be talking about Jack Besh. I'm gonna be

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Speaker 2: talking about obviously Brock Bauers in that offense. But Mary

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Speaker 2: Cooper's there to sell jerseys, man, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, you forgot one Thornton.

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't forget one because him and Mary Cooper

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Speaker 2: are gonna be battling. They get on the field each

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Speaker 2: other like they played the same role.

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Speaker 3: No am I wrong, No, no, no, But I think Thornton's

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Speaker 3: got the juice. Man, he's excited they got the juice.

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Speaker 2: But he won't be on my fantasy rosters. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm not him a little bit. A little bit. I

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Speaker 2: like a little bit of Besh because I feel like

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Speaker 2: there's more versatility with him. He's one of the most

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Speaker 2: like Besh making the noise he's made in preseason and camp,

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Speaker 2: it's for a reason because like he can play, And

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Speaker 2: I think that's why they're okay moving on from Jacoby.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the moving out from Jacoby because Jacoby

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Speaker 1: Myers is like I want to trailers are like, nah.

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Speaker 3: It's just a trader. Requesting trades has become a negotiation tactical.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is, And I don't I really don't know

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Speaker 2: He's been a very reliable wide receiver for a bad team.

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Speaker 2: So it's like it plays the line of like Terry

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Speaker 2: But Jacobe's good though, Like he has the numbers to

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Speaker 3: But he's a slot guy.

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Speaker 2: He could play out wide as well, Like I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: as a guy that you could be versatile with, but

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Speaker 2: he could be your one for a bad team, because

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Speaker 2: we've seen it in his entire career.

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Speaker 3: He could be your top target. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: It, like the top target because brock Bauer still watching.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and then Ashton Gents is gonna get three

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Speaker 3: hundred and something touches. That's the thing with the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be one of those offenses where

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Speaker 3: be very funneled through a couple.

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Speaker 1: Of guys absolutely, which is kind of nice for our

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Speaker 2: Does Gino become fantasy?

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Speaker 1: I think Geno is a streamer.

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Speaker 2: Yes, he'll have weeks like I feel like we're overlooking

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Speaker 2: him kind of like how Sam Darnold because like, these

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Speaker 1: Gino had the one big year, like they wrote me

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Speaker 2: Been chaotic over there in Seattle.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm saying, I you know, to see it.

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Speaker 2: But you know, with DK Tyler Lockett, you would think

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Speaker 2: for a reason, you know, Like I think Gino's coming

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Speaker 2: into this with Pete Carroll reuniting as the guy when

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Speaker 3: But you know, Gino is one of those guys that

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Speaker 3: I know is going to finish higher than where I

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Speaker 3: like J. J. McCarthy over heame on Bryce Young over him,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that thing with you know, like we

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but but there will definitely be weeks where like

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Speaker 3: stream Genosmith this well.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Seattle quarterbacks, the Seahawks say they plan to

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Speaker 1: build a package of plays for Jalen Milrow. I see

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Speaker 3: What do we do?

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Speaker 1: I mean, like you were you actually bring it up

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Speaker 1: earlier this summer that like Seahawks fans were like, why

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Speaker 1: aren't we starting Milrow? Right? Like I think we all

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Speaker 1: sort of were like, nah, man, like you're not gonna

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Speaker 1: do that, so obviously I'm gonna I'm gonna put words

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Speaker 1: in your mouth. You're saying this is a smoke screen.

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Speaker 2: Huh, smoke screen. I don't know, because like what is

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Speaker 2: he gonna do? Like he's gonna be putting certain packages

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Speaker 2: in the red zone toush push, Like why you just

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Speaker 2: paid Sam Darnold like one hundred million dollars, Like this

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Speaker 2: doesn't need to happen now. Like this feels like kind

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Speaker 2: of like Lamar Jackson when we're saying he's going to

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Speaker 2: be in certain packages or something like that. Like if

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Speaker 2: this just seems silly and like it shows no fantasy

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Speaker 2: relevance obviously, but like I would hate to see Sam

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Speaker 2: because Dalen Membro wants to running in. You know, like

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's gonna be like the Mark Andrews

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Speaker 3: version of the Ravens Push Push, where like they have

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Speaker 3: a special package just for those plays. And I think

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Speaker 3: that's going to be Milroe, like we saw it in

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Speaker 3: the preseason and they were successful with it. I don't

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Speaker 3: think this hurts Sam Donald as much as I think

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Speaker 3: it potentially hurts the running backs because if the goal

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Speaker 3: on looks are going to Milroe, that that's gonna be annoying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I don't I don't think Seattle ever plan

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Speaker 1: to run QB sneaks at the goal line with Sam Donald.

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Speaker 1: Like I don't think that's just the thing they want

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Speaker 1: I think they really are going to build a package

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Speaker 3: Know, they were all trying it with their quarterbacks at first,

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Speaker 3: Oh the Kwan's and his rams right.

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Speaker 2: Now, I'm just saying he got ranked fifteenth.

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Speaker 1: We acknowledge the Cooper Cup rams bubblehead here.

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Speaker 3: But we weren't.

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Speaker 1: We weren't trying to trigger you today. It just seems

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Speaker 3: You brought up the golf thing.

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Speaker 2: Do you agree at fifteen though?

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Speaker 3: That's crazy better than Stafford. That's all I know.

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Speaker 1: Since we're talking about see us Seattle Seahawks quarterbacks past

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Speaker 3: Smoke Screen, I think he's going to like I think

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and at that point Jackson Dart is your starter.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna call it now. Jackson Dart October fifth in

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Speaker 3: Honestly that that's what it's gonna be.

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Speaker 3: Album. I've taken Jackson Dart as my QB three and

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Speaker 3: If you want to go with Daniel, Daniel Dome like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Part of it is because like a guy like Malik

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Speaker 1: All right, uh, there you go. Those are our high

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Speaker 2: I got Breshall, And I will say this before I

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Speaker 1: I was sort of lower on Breeze Hall, so I'll

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Speaker 1: So I don't. I don't think what you say is

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Speaker 3: want to take him when he was going like you said,

437
00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,720
Speaker 3: in the second or early third, but yeah, but where

438
00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,680
Speaker 3: he's i've seen him go as of late, I think

439
00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:42,440
Speaker 3: it's a fine.

440
00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,640
Speaker 2: Like I think Chuba Hubbard will finish better than him.

441
00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,280
Speaker 2: I think R. J. Harvey, like James Connor, like these

442
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,320
Speaker 2: are guys that I feel more comfortable targeting kind of

443
00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,399
Speaker 2: in the range of where he should be going, Like

444
00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,400
Speaker 2: he's getting pulled up because everybody thinks that he's going

445
00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,760
Speaker 2: to be the RB one. Like I think they've been

446
00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,040
Speaker 2: pretty clear that it's going to be a one too,

447
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:02,679
Speaker 2: at least at the least.

448
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,000
Speaker 3: I do think the Jets finished top five in rushing attempts,

449
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:10,040
Speaker 3: so like that, and I think he's gonna I.

450
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 2: Don't really think is going to be like looked at

451
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,320
Speaker 2: as a guy that even have a high like rushing

452
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,439
Speaker 2: attempt like I think it would be Braylan Allen, Like

453
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,600
Speaker 2: he's a freaking piano coming down the steps. You better

454
00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:20,160
Speaker 2: get out of the way.

455
00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,280
Speaker 3: He's going to be the MANXI if they're doing it

456
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 3: that way. But Breece Hall is still gonna see a

457
00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:26,200
Speaker 3: good amount of volume.

458
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 1: What two hundred carries is that.

459
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,200
Speaker 3: He's seventy six last year get two.

460
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 1: Hundred last year?

461
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,399
Speaker 2: Is that Braylan Allen didn't get anything last year, And

462
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,000
Speaker 2: if they're hyping him up to be very involved in

463
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,640
Speaker 2: this offense, that two hundred comes down.

464
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,359
Speaker 3: I just think the Jets run a lot more than

465
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,919
Speaker 3: they did. Like, I think both things can be true.

466
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 1: See the other part of it is because last year

467
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 1: they also still had to feed the Aaron Rodgers dragon

468
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 1: right like they had to They had him throw almost

469
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 1: six hundred times last year. I don't think they're gonna

470
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 1: ask Justin Fields to throw the ball that you don't

471
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,960
Speaker 1: police a half the season. So I mean, I think

472
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 1: that that means their rushing attempts could come up so

473
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 1: you could still see Breeze I think around two hundred uh,

474
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 1: with Alan still getting you know where.

475
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,040
Speaker 3: I really think Breece is gonna surprise in the passing game.

476
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 3: Like I think people are underestimating how involved he's going

477
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 3: to be as a receiver because Justin Fields last year

478
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 3: the highest checkdown rate, and then Tanner Angsten coming from

479
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 3: the Lions, we know they featured the line of the

480
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 3: running backs a ton in the passing game. Plus behind

481
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 3: Garrett Wilson, there's no one, so like I think, naturally

482
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 3: Breeze Hall is going to get a lot of targets.

483
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of why I've been big on Mason

484
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 1: Taylor and like there's somebody, somebody's gonna somebody, somebody's gotta

485
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,200
Speaker 1: chtched the ball besides Garrett Wilson.

486
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 3: It's not gonna be Josh Reynolds.

487
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 1: Where Alans are, Yeah, the Lizard King.

488
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,959
Speaker 3: My Jet fan friends are clamoring for Deontay Johnson, and

489
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,400
Speaker 3: I actually think it would be a really what put

490
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 3: him at the X? You put Wilson in the slot,

491
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 3: or why.

492
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 1: The circus comes to New York. I could still play

493
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 1: You could still play it, just obviously he doesn't really

494
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 1: get along well with it.

495
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 2: If you get cut by the Browns, well.

496
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 3: They went they went young, they took Tilman. You know,

497
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 3: for your bold prediction for this year, it's slightly less

498
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 3: bold than I had it last year because I'm pretty

499
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 3: sure I had Isaiah p Checka was my guy last

500
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 3: and I had him.

501
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 1: As a top five run well.

502
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 3: The first two games he was on pace for sixteen

503
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 3: hundred yards and something like sixty five or seventy cats

504
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 3: like it was. It was insane the usage he saw

505
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,360
Speaker 3: fractures of fibula comes back, not in playing weight, obviously.

506
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 3: We know that's an injury that takes a while to

507
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 3: get back to yourself. But he's back to himself. We

508
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 3: saw it in the little bit that he played in

509
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 3: the preseason. He looks like his old self again. He's

510
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 3: getting back up to the old miles per hour that

511
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 3: he used to get. And look, no disrespect to Brishard

512
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,920
Speaker 3: Smith Yea or Kareem Hunts or any of those guys.

513
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 3: I think there's still a path for Pacheco to be

514
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 3: a three down back. And if he's a three down

515
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 3: back with Patrick Mahone and the Chiefs and Andy Reid,

516
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 3: I think he finished as an RB one, so I

517
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 3: have him top ten. I don't have him ranked as

518
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 3: the top ten because I think there is some injury

519
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 3: concerned to do with his playing style, but I'm definitely

520
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 3: way higher on him than consensus.

521
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: I also think if the Chiefs really achieve their goal

522
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 1: of trying to be more vertical, that only helps.

523
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly right.

524
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,719
Speaker 1: If they can force it so that you you've got

525
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: to back up those safeties, you got to back up

526
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 1: those linebackers a little bit, then that does open things

527
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 1: up for Pacheco. And I mean, look, you were on

528
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 1: him last year, and you're right those first couple of games,

529
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 1: because I was sort of skeptical. Now those first two weeks,

530
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, you know, ah uh so,

531
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 1: all right, I appreciate you. You're ready to double down.

532
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 3: I took DeAndre Swift over him in our Fantasy Live

533
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 3: draft only because I have a lot of Pacheco. But

534
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 3: I immediately was like, oh.

535
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you made the right move, which I know you

536
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 2: guys both have.

537
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 1: So you're the quote because like I was, you know,

538
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: hoping that maybe I was a ways down.

539
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 3: Do you have Pachecko we could trade.

540
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: I don't have CHECKA. No, that's A's Kimmy check, So

541
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: good luck, good luck.

542
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 3: Prance was mad at me for taking Rashi Rice. I

543
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 3: mean that's like the only chief Kimmy doesn't have.

544
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,719
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, good luck prying to Kansas City

545
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: chief away from Kimmy Checks. Good luck to you with

546
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: that one, sir, for sure. Uh my bold prediction again.

547
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: I hope all the bad things in the world happened

548
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 1: to you on Sequon Barkley finishes outside the top ten

549
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: running backs.

550
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 2: You know I've been this is spicy.

551
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 1: Well here's I've been pretty you know, open about how

552
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: I feel about right.

553
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 2: Agree.

554
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 3: You were first.

555
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 2: You were the first to point this out before.

556
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 3: Any I heard anyone else in Fantasy like you were.

557
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 3: You were on it in like February, like Super Bowl

558
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 3: confetti was still falling and you're like, I'm not drafted

559
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 3: him next year.

560
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 1: The Jersey WASHINGTI and I'm like, not drafting you. Yeah,

561
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,199
Speaker 1: I mean, I look, I think you could still be

562
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: a low end RB one. But if the the trends hold, right,

563
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: I think you're still looking at You're looking at like

564
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: twelve hundred rushing yards. I think you know, he gets

565
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 1: a number of targets, but he's not big on receiving yards.

566
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: That's not a big part of his game necessarily. He's not.

567
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: They don't throw to him as like a guy he's

568
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: you know that you're running routes for specifically, right, it's

569
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: not They don't use him like a McCaffrey or you know,

570
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 1: Jamier Gibbs. They throw to Saquan as either a screen

571
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: or just a dump off to get out of trouble

572
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: sort of.

573
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 3: Last year, by far, the fewest targets and catches he's

574
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 3: ever had in the season he played more than two games.

575
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not the only sole player on that offense

576
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 2: that can catch the ball that.

577
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 3: Is mobile, but he's also when he runs, his eyes

578
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 3: are downfield.

579
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So I'm you know, I think I think

580
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a good season, but it's gonna be

581
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: the kind of season where, you know, in Week six,

582
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna be having the what's wrong with Saquon Barkley conversations?

583
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 1: Right because he's not going for these ridiculous numbers. I

584
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: have to look it up again, because like it was

585
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: something like he had the vast majority of like one

586
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: hundred and forty yard games last year, twenty six games

587
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 1: last year where a player rushed for one hundred and

588
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 1: forty or more yards, Saquon had seven of them. Wow,

589
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: that's that's you know, that's more than a quarter. That's

590
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: more than a quarter of them. Like, that's hard to

591
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: duplicate year over year.

592
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 2: So a super soldiers.

593
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 1: I think it's the kind of thing where had he

594
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 1: not done the two thousand yard thing, we look at

595
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:35,919
Speaker 1: him like, oh, it's pretty good year for Saquon, but

596
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: because of what he did last year, we're gonna be

597
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: Likequon's broken, like what's wrong?

598
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: You know, and played in the Super Bowl. That's a

599
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 2: lot of game. That's a lot of wear and tear

600
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 2: for somebody to take full context over well over one.

601
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 3: Hundred more touches than he's ever had in a season. Yeah,

602
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 3: plus their goal line carries last year, UH eighteen for Hurts,

603
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,959
Speaker 3: eleven touchdowns, eight for Saquon three touchdowns like that, if

604
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 3: he's not getting those big yardage, you're gonna Like last

605
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 3: year we didn't feel it because he had all those

606
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 3: other huge games. This year, you're gonna feel it if

607
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 3: he's not doing that.

608
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: Not to mention that we had on Fantasy Live Today

609
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 1: about guys who've gone for three hundred and seventy more

610
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: touches the following year, the only guy who really came

611
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: close to duplicating was Derrick Henry, who had like three

612
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy some odd to is a super soul

613
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 1: he is, he had for a bunch of touches, and

614
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 1: then the next year he finished his RB eight right,

615
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: But even that, you know it still a little bit

616
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 1: of a most of these guys are coming in you

617
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: RB twenty five, RB twenty eight, something like that. So like,

618
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: there's just something to be said for getting that much

619
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: work in a season and then asking somebody to do

620
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: it again the next year.

621
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 3: And a lot broke right for Philly last year too.

622
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 3: It's just hard to believe that it'll break that right again.

623
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 1: Yea, So those are our bold predictions.

624
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,239
Speaker 3: Now I'm really curious for this.

625
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm not sort of spies because it's the hot take time,

626
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: and I you and I both looked at the rundown

627
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: and Lakwan just wrote Lad McCoy no tape, just Lad

628
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: book like everything else is a full sentence about what

629
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 1: we think that you just wrote, Ladd mcconzie. So please,

630
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 1: I am very curious what this is.

631
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 2: Look, Ladd mcconkeye. I mean, is that a hot take?

632
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 2: What are you expecting?

633
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: What a person's name?

634
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 2: Well, the hot take here is that I think Ladd

635
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: is going to finish closer to wide receiver twenty five

636
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 2: rather than where he's getting drafted at wide receiver eleven.

637
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 2: And here's why you have Keenan Allen. And obviously I've

638
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 2: been preaching the identity of this offense. Nachi's back at practice.

639
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: He's tracking balls and catching balls like this is looking

640
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: like it's falling into place where they want to run

641
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 2: and living heck out of this ball. So the pass

642
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: volume is going to be so further down. And we're

643
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 2: all looking at last season like the hyper focus of

644
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 2: targets on him, because I call those situational targets because

645
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 2: you're one and two after I mean you're two and

646
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: three after Ladd was Will Disley and Quintin Johnston. Where's

647
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: he at? Is he still on the team because I

648
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: think DeAndre Lambert Smith has taken his role, so therefore

649
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: they have more AMMO and hargets to spread out now

650
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 2: to where Ladd won't.

651
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 3: You're thinking a guy that most people didn't hear of

652
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 3: until two weeks ago, is going to prevent Ladd McConkey.

653
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 2: I think there's more passing, reliable options on that offense

654
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: rather than what it was last year.

655
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 3: It's insanely thin. Once you get past.

656
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: He's had a great gamp. I'm telling you now are.

657
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 3: A lot of.

658
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: He's better than Well Disney was last year. He he

659
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: will be.

660
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,959
Speaker 1: I mean, I like and I like Ronde Gads then

661
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: as like a late round dart throw. But I'm not

662
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: sitting here being like Ronda Gads is gonna take food

663
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: off Lad mcconkey's plate.

664
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: Why isn't he. It's a low pass fining offense. Allen

665
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: back then the biggest alpha in the room.

666
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: But you can impact that a little bit.

667
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 3: I think the impact is he'll play the slot and

668
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 3: it'll push lad out wide bit more. But also he's

669
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 3: thirty three. Were we Yeah, but we're not.

670
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: We're not running like that.

671
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: Ain't old.

672
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: You're sitting here with us, like my back is a

673
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: history of missing time.

674
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 3: Like we're one pulled hamsteng away from it being thinner

675
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 3: than it was last year.

676
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: Bro, he's going to be closer to wide receiver twenty

677
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 2: five rather than where he's being drafted at wide receiver eleven.

678
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 2: Right now, it's insane, It's bonkers.

679
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: Never I mean, here's that You've been fairly consistent on

680
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: your lad hate.

681
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: It's not even hate facts come on from I'm willing

682
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: to talk in absolutes here. This is the only time

683
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 2: that I will talk in absolutes. He's going to be

684
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: closer to wide receiver twenty five.

685
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 3: From week on. Last year his pace was fifteen hundred

686
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 3: yards and nine touchdown.

687
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: And who was the second target in any of those games?

688
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 3: I mean Will Disley, Quentin Johnston unreliable?

689
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: I mean Will, It was like a month where we

690
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: were like hyping up Quentin Johnston.

691
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was doing his thing.

692
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: We I mean we have the Royal we is it

693
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: like the Fantasy the Fantasy three? You love so much.

694
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: I don't love them.

695
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: They may.

696
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 3: The other thing, though, is like Ladd wasn't even seeing

697
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 3: like a lot of targets in these games listen, and

698
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 3: he was turning them into huge fantasy days. Like I

699
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 3: think they Chargers went into this offseason being we need

700
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 3: to get lad.

701
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 2: The ball more. Where he's gone in drafts, and I

702
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 2: know folks probably have drafts coming up this weekend where

703
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: he's going in drafts. I'd rather pivot to a Josh Jacobs.

704
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: I'd rather pivot to a T Higgins Advante Adams, Like

705
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: why not.

706
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 3: I'm taking over.

707
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: Bro Burrow's gonna throw the ball like seven hundred times.

708
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: I mean, like, Bro, you're looking at T Higgins as

709
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: probably eleven games. Bruh, that's wild.

710
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 3: I mean, has he ever played seventeen?

711
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: Look, James kind of brewed does wrong last year? Man

712
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: T Higgins could do it. He could do it.

713
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 3: I love James Connor. T Higgins has never He's played

714
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 3: sixteen games twice, never played seventeen the last two years,

715
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 3: has played twelve.

716
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: If James Connor could do it, T Higgins could do it,

717
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 2: let's go.

718
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: I just said, Laconk He's like, that's my hot take.

719
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 3: The person, like what the lad disrespect is way too far.

720
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 3: He's so he is so good, like he is he

721
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 3: could win out wide in the slot after the catchdown field,

722
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 3: like there's nothing he can't do on a football field.

723
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: He just put my computer to sleep.

724
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: While wakes up his computer. What's your hot take, Florida.

725
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 3: I went through a number of them. At first, I

726
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 3: was like, the combo of rash Rice and Marquis Brown

727
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 3: will be top ten. Then I changed that to Roman Dunes,

728
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 3: they will be top ten, and then I saw that

729
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 3: you guys were doing the hater aide, so I was like,

730
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 3: let me go negative. I think this is a spicy take.

731
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 3: I think Brian Thomas Junior is going to be a disappointment,

732
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 3: and the reason why is Travis Hunter.

733
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 2: I was gonna say Trevor mc lawrence, No.

734
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 3: I think Travis Hunter. I think Travis Hunter might outproduce

735
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 3: Brian Thomas Junior, but I definitely think their numbers will

736
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 3: be close. And you're getting such a discount on Travis

737
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 3: Hunter compared to BTJ that I think at the end

738
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 3: of the year he is going to be looked at

739
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 3: as the better Like that was the way I should

740
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 3: have went for.

741
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: The Jaguars receivers. Can I say something, go for it.

742
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: I think you're right. Yeah, Like I think I haven't

743
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: drafted Brian Thomas Juni because it just felt too expensive

744
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: all off season long, right when you look at so

745
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: much of his production came in the back half of

746
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: the season, when you talk about how finn the Chargers

747
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: wide receiver room was, right, the Jaguars were decimated with injuries,

748
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: and I mean this is like maybe a quirk of

749
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: the game, but it still does tweak me a little

750
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: bit that most of his production came with Mac Jones Warrence, Right,

751
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: So now you throw Travis Hunter in the mix, you're

752
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: throwing some more target competition, right, Like I just I

753
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: just felt like the asking price was way too much

754
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: for Brian Thomas Junior this year.

755
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 3: And I don't know what their schedule is, but like,

756
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 3: do they play the Broncos this year, because that would

757
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 3: be a good example, Like if they do, they don't,

758
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 3: but okay, oh no, they do, Like that game Courtland

759
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 3: Sutton is going to be all over Brian Thomas Junior.

760
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 3: When they play the Jets. It's gonna be Sauce Gardner

761
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 3: and then you're gonna have Travis Hunter going up against

762
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 3: the second corner or nickel corners because he's gonna be

763
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 3: in the slot a lot, like he's gonna eat those

764
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 3: guys alive.

765
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I just you know, like you know,

766
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm gonna go as far as

767
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: to say that that Hunter will outproduce Brian Thomas, but

768
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: I definitely think people are gonna be disappointed with the

769
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: return they get, Like where they spin.

770
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if they finish like wide receiver

771
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,280
Speaker 3: like sixteen and eighteen or something like or like fourteen

772
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 3: and eighteen something.

773
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: Right, And again, like you you've drafted Thomas like a

774
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: top eight wide receiver.

775
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 3: It's just been too steep from me.

776
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.

777
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: Kind of I'm coming around. I'm coming around just based

778
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 2: on where you can get him, well, where you use

779
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: can get him in drafts. I don't know where he's going,

780
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 2: you know, in the week coming up for the rest

781
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: of the drafts. But I do feel like he is

782
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 2: the function of that offense, like they will run it

783
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 2: through him, because I do feel like Travis Hunter will

784
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 2: be taking all the field being on defense. And like

785
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 2: me to Travis Hunter, I'm not drafting him at all,

786
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 2: Like never, if you're gonna be playing both sides of

787
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 2: the ball, absolutely lot, I hear you. But if you're

788
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: gonna be taking bumps and bruises on defense and then

789
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: expecting him to go out there be full ready to

790
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 2: go on offense, nah, this is not a little man's league.

791
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't think he's gonna, at least

792
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: at the beginning, play as many snaps on defense.

793
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 2: And I appreciate his endurance, like I appreciate that you know,

794
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,439
Speaker 2: he's been running through practice, that all the reports we heard,

795
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,479
Speaker 2: like he's a guy has an unlimited motor. But after

796
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 2: a while, man, this is seventeen games.

797
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 3: Every Hunt made it a good point. College game is

798
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: not only faster, it's there's less breaks and there's more

799
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 3: snaps played, and he would play all of them.

800
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, like I just think I think the Jaguars

801
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: is going to be very judicious about when they use

802
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: him on defense.

803
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 3: I think they tell him like be smart, like don't

804
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 3: don't try to lower your shoulder and tackle Derrick Henry.

805
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: Right, business decision, yeah exactly.

806
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 3: Like play shut down corner and if you do, okay,

807
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 3: if you don't, kind of like what the Jets do

808
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 3: with saus Garner, like.

809
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: Kind of like how his old college coach Dion played

810
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: Deono the shut down corner. Deon wouldn't really known as

811
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: a tackler, like that really wasn't his thing, but he would.

812
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: He would pick one off and go the other way.

813
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, they that's a great guy

814
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: for Travis Hunter to learn from.

815
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 3: Picked him to win both Rookies of the Year this year.

816
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: That's say, that's wild.

817
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: That's your hot take right there.

818
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 3: I think next year Travis Hunter is going to be

819
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 3: at worst a second round pick.

820
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: All right, I'm all.

821
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 3: In on him.

822
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: I can't see that. I could see that, all right.

823
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: So my hot take, Bryce Young is gonna be a

824
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: top ten fantasy quarterback.

825
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 3: This is spicy.

826
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: I like it. Obviously, they feel confident with their wide

827
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: receiver room. If they were willing to trade Adam Thielen

828
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: to Minnesota, so they feel confident with you know, McMillan,

829
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 1: Leaguette Cocher, you know, all the guys they got down there.

830
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: They feel like they've got something there. We've seen Bryce

831
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: Young elevate, we saw him at the end of the season.

832
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: We saw him getting out of the pocket and running

833
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: a little bit more, you know, like he's not gonna

834
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: you know, you're not gonna start getting six seven hundred

835
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: yards on the ground from Bryce Young. But if he

836
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: can give you enough to be viable, I think that's something.

837
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: And I think he's getting more comfortable as a passer again.

838
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: Bryce Young has been a study in patience for a

839
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: lot of us. Right that after year one, so many

840
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: people were willing to write him off and be like,

841
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: he's a bust, it's over. The Panthers screwed up. They

842
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: should have taken CJ. Stroud. And then after year two,

843
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: when Shroud came back to Earth and Bryce Young got better,

844
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: everybody's like, what, maybe we should reevaluate this, And maybe

845
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: the lesson is, hey, maybe we should have waited a

846
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: couple of years to say anything about how this sort

847
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: of sort of thing goes. So I think, you know,

848
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna take some things breaking, right. It's a Panther

849
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: defense that's not particularly very good, so they're gonna have

850
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: to throw the ball a lot. But man, I do

851
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: envision a strain multiverse where Bryce Young is a top

852
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 1: ten fantasy quarterback this year.

853
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 2: If he's top ten and that means Jalen Coker has

854
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: been going crazy all season long, and he's probably gonna.

855
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: Be a huge, huge pickup after week one. I'm telling

856
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: you now, I mean could be. I mean, I know

857
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: you said you like Chuba Hubbard. I mean maybe it's

858
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: him getting out of the backfield too a little bit.

859
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 2: He's like the not sexy pick like like a lot

860
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: of people don't really talk him up much like.

861
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 3: I don't really find myself taking I don't think.

862
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: You wople believe it's like it's I think there's a

863
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: lot of people and I'm kind of one of them.

864
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: Is like, all right, that was cool, do it again?

865
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 3: No, I mean, really is there's more competition behind him?

866
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 3: I would say Nickle Doowell. I mean last year there

867
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 3: was no one though, like because Miles Sanders got hurt

868
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 3: right away and then Jonathan Brooks was never a thing.

869
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 3: It's not even that I don't like Cuba. It's just

870
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 3: that there's other guys I like more like RJ. Harvey,

871
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 3: P Checko, Kenneth Walker, James Connor Swift. I'd rather have

872
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: all of those guys.

873
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I ain't mad at it, alight, So

874
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,919
Speaker 1: there you go. Those are our bold predictions and hot

875
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: takes for twenty twenty five. Take One, More Break, come Back.

876
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: We got some Fantasy superlatives, handing out some postseason awards

877
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: before the season even starts. It's coming up next on

878
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. All right, So figured we'd

879
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: end the show before we get into week one officially

880
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: with our some of our summer predictions, end of season predictions,

881
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 1: gazing into our murky crystal ball, trying to figure out

882
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: what's going to happen. So, first off, Florio, you're Fantasy

883
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year.

884
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 3: It differs from my real life rookie of the Year.

885
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: Okay, it's not Travis Hunter.

886
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 3: It's not Travis Hunter, although he's Look, everyone's gonna be

887
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 3: picking Ash genty for this. It's gonna be Travion Henderson.

888
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 3: Baby wow, surprise. Yeah. I mean I've talked him up

889
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 3: enough this year, but I really think Travion is gonna

890
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 3: give you I know now you're not getting as big

891
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 3: of a discount on him, but I think he's gonna

892
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 3: give you RB one numbers and like you were getting

893
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 3: in like the seventh eighth round at some points this summer,

894
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: and Jens, you're paying a first round price for in

895
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 3: a lot of leagues, So I do think their production

896
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 3: will be pretty close. And at that point, give me

897
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 3: the guy that's going a couple rounds later.

898
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: All right, who you got Rookie of the Year?

899
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 2: Uh Kim Bardon. I think he's gonna be a punch

900
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 2: of people in the mouth man, because like where he's

901
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 2: going in drafts, he's going way later, like where you

902
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: got the Bryce Youngs and the Sam Darnolds of the world. Like,

903
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna surprise a lot of folks. And

904
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 2: like just a little bit that we saw in the preseason,

905
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: he looks so comfortable, he looks so good, Like he

906
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 2: looked like he was commanding that offense. And Calvin Ridley

907
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 2: man that is gonna be a huge threat on that offense.

908
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 2: And I think, you know, we might get some guys

909
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: like Tyler Lockett that might be contributors. And Gunner Helm

910
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 2: is making noise in the tight end room with Chicka Koku,

911
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 2: like the pieces are there for him. So I think

912
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 2: he's probably gonna shock a lot of folks where he's

913
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: gonna finish better than a Jarret golf or rock party.

914
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: Like many guys that go in that tier of like

915
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: the QB like ones like the lowing QB ones. I

916
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: think that's where came war could really be if this

917
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 2: Titans offense is going to be surprising a lot of.

918
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: Folks, if it's better than mid. Because he said it

919
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: was mid.

920
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was wild for him to say at a

921
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: press conference.

922
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 1: Man. I appreciate the honest. I appreciate the honesty as

923
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: opposed to like, yeah, no, we're really building something great

924
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 1: here and it's like, no, you're not, You're mid, You're mid.

925
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go off menu a little bit and I'm

926
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: gonna give you a Mecca Abuka just because I think

927
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: the it's unfortunate for the Buccaneers and for the players involved,

928
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: but things have sort of broken right for him right

929
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: the Jayalen McMillan injury. I know, Chris Godwin's not going

930
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: to start the year on the pup list, but you know,

931
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: right now, Todd Bowles is like, yeah, he can be

932
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: any he can be back anywhere from week two to

933
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: week five, right, And that's a that's a wide range.

934
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 1: So in the meantime, that passing game is Mike Evans

935
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: and a Mecca Abuka, Like that's pretty much it, So

936
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: those guys are gonna get funneled a lot of targets.

937
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: Abuka already a really talented guy anyway, who I think

938
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: was gonna push to be the third wide receiver. Uh,

939
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: you know, I think even you know, Godwin and and

940
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: mcmallan were healthy, I think Buka was going to force

941
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: his way on the field. Now he's going to get

942
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: every opportunity to start. I think he's going to make

943
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 1: an impact from the beginning, and then when Chris Godwin

944
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: is back, it's gonna be hard to take him off

945
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: the field. You're gonna see a lot of three ride

946
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 1: receivers and I think a Buka is gonna be there

947
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 1: and uh and make an impact. So, you know, maybe

948
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: not the conventional choice for fantasy rookie the year, but

949
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: that's where I'm going. No, honestly can see that.

950
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 2: I mean, like him making noise early, I can really

951
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: see him finish. Like the path for why receive like

952
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: rookie ride receiver in one is not that hard like

953
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: et Central McMillan. Yeah, Travis Hunter, if we count it

954
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: like it's like why would we not count wide receiver?

955
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 2: He is also a dB man like whatever. But I

956
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 2: do think I can get on board with that because

957
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 2: I've taken him a lot, Like I've reached as high

958
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: as like six fifth round in some of these drafts

959
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: that have passed again him and I feel good.

960
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I took him yesterday. I was sad in

961
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 1: the fantasy that was sad. Where did I take? I

962
00:42:59,320 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be.

963
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 3: I took Rashid Rice and I was like, yeah. I

964
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 3: was like, I don't know if he'll fall, but maybe,

965
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 3: but it's no chance.

966
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: I took a Buka in the sixth round, which annoyed

967
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: Rank enough that he took Cam Skataboo one round later. Wow,

968
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: why because he was like, he's like, there's a lot

969
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: of He's there's a lot of spike and petty drafting

970
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 1: in this league. U partially one one. He was annoyed

971
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: because you didn't take He solely took him.

972
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 3: At that third pick because just so I couldn't get Yeah.

973
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: So like you didn't take you didn't take Travion at thirteen,

974
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: so then why would I do that? So then he

975
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 1: took I almost did not want in the third round

976
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: because that's what he said on the show he was

977
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: going to do.

978
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 3: I can tell he was thinking about it though, because

979
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 3: he took the full forty five seconds on that Oh yeah,

980
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 3: So I was like, is he really going to do it?

981
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 3: He was, he was contemplating.

982
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: So I took a Buka in round six, and honestly

983
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't doing it to spite Rank. I

984
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:53,879
Speaker 1: did it because I thought he was a good pick.

985
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: And then yeah, I really wasn't thinking that hard about it.

986
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 1: So I took him in round six. So then Rank,

987
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: because he was petty and spiteful, knew that I loved

988
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: camp Scataboo, So he took Skataboo at the top of

989
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: the seventh round.

990
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 2: Wow.

991
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Spike drafting, all right, Spike drafting, So like

992
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: that's a peek behind the curtain. In the Fantasy Live.

993
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: There's a certain pick drafts, just like a lot.

994
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 3: Of you, there's certain picks that you know are automatic,

995
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 3: like Lamar Jackson's coming old, Patrick Claybound's.

996
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: Up, Patrick, He's going. Patrick's gonna take Lamar. Kimmy check

997
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,399
Speaker 1: is gonna take my homes and pretty much any chief

998
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: she can get her in.

999
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 3: The strongest reaction was when I took with she Rice. Yeah,

1000
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 3: and I looked at her team, and I was like,

1001
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 3: you have every other chief.

1002
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, laquad, who is your fantasy bus stuff? Oh?

1003
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: I mean all summer we've kind of been like side iron,

1004
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 2: like why is Baker Mayfield going in the top seven quarterbacks?

1005
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 2: So I think he's gonna be a huge disappointment. Like,

1006
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: I honestly think he's gonna have a solid season.

1007
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: It's not helping up my Mecca Booka.

1008
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 2: But the touchdowns are definitely gonna regress going back down

1009
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 2: the earth, and I think that's what carried him a lot,

1010
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: you know, into the fantasy ranks last season. I think,

1011
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 2: you know, him finish in the top five is not

1012
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 2: reality of where I could see him because like again

1013
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 2: I think bo has that opportunity and Patrick Mahomes has

1014
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 2: that opportunity. These are guys that are going after him

1015
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 2: in drafts, So it doesn't really make sense. So I

1016
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 2: think the fantasy streets are gonna be hurting after this one.

1017
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: Though. Yeah, I can I can see that. I mean

1018
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: he's had he's had a career. I don't say resurrection,

1019
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 1: but like he has turned into the guy that the

1020
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: Browns thought they were getting. Yeah, yeah, you know, but

1021
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: the Browns browned it up and uh, now Baker's balling

1022
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: for somebody else.

1023
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 3: People are surprised a lot that I have him at

1024
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 3: QB eleven, But Mike, I think he has the same,

1025
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 3: like a low end QB one. I think he's safe. Like,

1026
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 3: I agree with you. He careered hard, passing yards, passing

1027
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 3: touchdowns and rushing yards Like I don't think all of

1028
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 3: that's gonna happen again, but I think he'll be very solid,

1029
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 3: like week to week, you could play him, but he's

1030
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 3: not gonna.

1031
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: Be top five. All right, Uh your fantasy bust Floria.

1032
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey, sorry, kill a try, Wow just now engagement brave.

1033
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 3: Yeah he look look he's like, I'm I was too

1034
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 3: distracted by off the field stuff. These are the biggest,

1035
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 3: the most famous woman alive. Kudos to you, Kudos to Taylor.

1036
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 3: I'm happy for you, guys, but I think it's gonna

1037
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 3: take your mind. You gotta probably the most expensive wedding

1038
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 3: in the world to plan.

1039
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: Like, here's the thing, Travis Kelsey is not going to

1040
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: be looking at place settings, no, no, no, or invitations. I

1041
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: had to because you don't have people for that.

1042
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean their wedding. They're gonna rent

1043
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 3: out like an eye like, look that that's not the act.

1044
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 3: But the real reason is I think Travis kelce last

1045
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 3: year one, he's thirty five. Two, we've seen two years

1046
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 3: of steady decline in a row already. Yes, three. I

1047
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 3: think last year one, if you had Travis Kelce, you know,

1048
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 3: the end of season numbers look better than than rostering

1049
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 3: him did because.

1050
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 2: There was a lot of weeks out of the playoffs.

1051
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was going single digits most weeks. But then

1052
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 3: on top of that, you look at what it was

1053
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 3: early in the year before all of their receivers and

1054
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 3: Pacheco got hurt. He didn't see he saw four three

1055
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 3: five targets the first three games. Then it started to

1056
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 3: climb because rashe Rice got hurt, Marquis Brown was out,

1057
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 3: Pacheco was out. I think it just became kind of

1058
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 3: a de facto we have no one else out here.

1059
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 3: We have to run through Travis kelcey right now. But also,

1060
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 3: like I'm a big believer, the Chiefs saved their guys

1061
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 3: for the playoffs. So last year I kept joking like,

1062
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 3: all right, it's the playoff time, watch Travis Kelsey's gonna

1063
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,439
Speaker 3: go off, And he did. Granted against the Texans every

1064
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 3: tight end did last year, but then after that he

1065
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 3: did nothing, Like he did nothing against the Bills, he

1066
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 3: had nineteen yards. This is a guy who killed the

1067
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 3: Bills his entire career, and then he did nothing in

1068
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. Like I think Travis Kelcey's best days

1069
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 3: are behind him. I think that we're potentially gonna get

1070
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 3: another year of a decline. And I say it a

1071
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 3: lot declines in football happened steep, so like I wouldn't

1072
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 3: be surprised if he gets something like six hundred yards

1073
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 3: this year. I know that sounds spicy, but like with

1074
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,919
Speaker 3: with the other guys all being healthy, I think that's

1075
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 3: who the offense runs through now.

1076
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: I mean I think with Travis Kelsey last year, I

1077
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: know he had the whole thing about being an entertainer

1078
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: and had him distracted. I'm like, I don't since you

1079
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: were distracted. I just feel like you're getting old. Yeah,

1080
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: I mean just like right, and it's like that's not

1081
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: that's not there's no shame in that. It happens to everybody, right,

1082
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: But I just watched the.

1083
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 3: One year older than me, and I'm like, this dude

1084
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 3: is old, like but like.

1085
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: You know, he just you could see sort of the

1086
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: wear and tear. He looked like he was a couple

1087
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: of steps slower.

1088
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 3: That move he does where he like kind of runs

1089
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 3: around after the catch. It looked much different year.

1090
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it looks like it looks like there's a

1091
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: Scooby Doo villain in a rubber mask behind him, like

1092
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: he's waiting to like turn the corner, and like like

1093
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: there should be a cartoon sound effect, like like that's

1094
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: what it should be like when he turns around. Yeah,

1095
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: I just I thought that was the thing with Travis

1096
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: Kelsey more than you know, going on a world tour

1097
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 1: or something like that with his girlfriend on your girl tour. Yeah,

1098
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that's it. Mine's not quite

1099
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: as spicy as yours. Oh maybe it is. I think

1100
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker is going to let a lot of people

1101
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 1: down this year.

1102
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 3: WHOA that hurts. Wow, I'm in on Kenneth Walker's This guy.

1103
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: Woke up with the hater aide, Zach Sharboney man, and

1104
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 1: like you got me out here defending a UCLA brewing.

1105
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: But that's the case right now, Zach Sharboney, that's not

1106
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: that man. It's less risk more elbow, more elbow. Here's

1107
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: like a way, what are you doing? Uh? I mean

1108
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: it just all the chatter out of Seattle is that,

1109
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: you know, Mike McDonald is kind of getting fed up

1110
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: with waiting on him to get healthy. He struggles to

1111
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: get through full seasons. You know, they they started to

1112
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: feature Sharbony a little bit more as the season went on.

1113
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: He's looked great in the preseason. You know, I still

1114
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: think they'll give Walker an opportunity, but I just think

1115
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: by mid to late season, I think Sharbona may take

1116
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: over that backfield. It's like I'm looking at the guys

1117
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: around him right now in ADP, like I'd still take

1118
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: him over Alvin Kamara because it's you know, it's it's

1119
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: no Saints all over here. Yeah, I still think about

1120
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: head of Alva Kamara, but like Tupa Hubbard, James Connor,

1121
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: Breeze Hall, Treyvon Henderson. You know, I think I want

1122
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: all that mix for I think I want all those

1123
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:12,919
Speaker 1: dudes a head of Kenneth Walker this year.

1124
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 3: I get it. I totally get it and everything like

1125
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 3: the concerns, the injuries and maybe this is just me

1126
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 3: burying my head in the sand, but I'm like, if

1127
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker plays up to Kenneth Walker's ability, he's he's

1128
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 3: gonna be five.

1129
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 2: It's top five season. It gives us fourteen games.

1130
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: I mean, everything I keep reading about the Seahawks, everything

1131
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: I'm reading is just like Zach Charbonay deserves the number

1132
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: one jobs, is going to take the number one jo

1133
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: ship them.

1134
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 3: I just think this is the perfect system for what

1135
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 3: It's a lot of outside.

1136
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 2: Runs, yes, so like, but he's him when he's healthy.

1137
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 3: I've chased Nneth Walker for years now, you know.

1138
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,240
Speaker 1: Plus Sharvonae's gonna catch the ball more than well. Actually

1139
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: they had about the same number of targets last year,

1140
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: same number of catches, I think. But I think Sharbon

1141
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: is a better pass catcher.

1142
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 3: Said, definitely better pass blocker, Definitely a better pass blocker.

1143
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 2: Kennith fucker, I ain't gonna be and Seattle next year.

1144
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 3: So correct contract year. Maybe they just.

1145
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 1: Went looking forward to the looking forward to the Kenneth

1146
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 1: Kirene battle in Los Angeles next year.

1147
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 2: Excuse me, how did the Rams get twined into this man?

1148
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: Because like it had been twenty minutes since we'd poked

1149
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: at you. That's what I almost did when we were.

1150
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 3: Doing Busts of the Year, but I was like, let

1151
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 3: me say something I actually believe.

1152
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: So wow, I would have left, all right. So then

1153
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: the big question is Florio, who is your twenty twenty

1154
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: five Fantasy MVP.

1155
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 3: I was really tempted to say Trevion here, but I'm

1156
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 3: gonna go to another one of my guys. It's gonna

1157
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 3: be the Leak. Neighbors. Melik Neighbors is my pick for

1158
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 3: offensive Player of the Year. I think he leads the

1159
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 3: league in receiving yards. And when I first said this,

1160
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 3: this was like a hot take, like I went on

1161
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 3: the insiders and I was like, all right, this could

1162
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 3: be so, And then like the more I sat with it,

1163
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 3: I was like, no, he's just gonna do it. I think,

1164
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 3: like I outside of Jamar Chase, I think if he

1165
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 3: should be the favorite to to lead the lead yards

1166
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 3: because he the ball is going to be so funneled

1167
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 3: through him. We saw that last year. We saw that

1168
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 3: when he was healthy in training camp to year, like

1169
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 3: every day it was like they can't stop throwing the

1170
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 3: Baltimolak Neighbors every play. And I think he is as

1171
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 3: talented as like a Jefferson a chase a lamb. So

1172
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 3: you give him that sort of volume, I think he's

1173
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 3: gonna do really big things with it and more downfield throwing.

1174
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 3: If touchdown variants goes in his way, because that is

1175
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 3: always something that's hard to predict, but if it, if

1176
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 3: he ends up with something like eight to ten touchdowns,

1177
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 3: I think he could be the best receiver in Fantasy

1178
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 3: this year.

1179
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: My analysis of the Giants last year was like, every

1180
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 1: time they throw it to not Malik Neighbors, I wonder

1181
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: why they didn't.

1182
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 3: Throw watching them every time they needed a conversion it

1183
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:43,959
Speaker 3: could have been a yard. They were like, we're giving

1184
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 3: the Baaltimolak.

1185
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: Neighbors and then occasionally one Dale Robinson. Here you go.

1186
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: That's it all right, some Elak Neighbors has won. Who

1187
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: do you got to Lakwan Jamior Gibbs.

1188
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 2: I feel like we're gonna be stamping him as mister

1189
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 2: one on one next season. Like I feel like now

1190
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 2: that we have Monty publicly of like pushing him more

1191
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: into the sunlight. We have John Morton there that's probably

1192
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 2: gonna look at Gibbs like I want you to touch

1193
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: the ball three hundred and fifty times now, Like I

1194
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,720
Speaker 2: think this is gonna be the video game number season

1195
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 2: that we wanted from him, and this is just gonna

1196
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 2: be just put the bed of who mister one on

1197
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 2: one is next year?

1198
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:21,720
Speaker 1: All right? I'm thinking similarly, but different guy John Robinson.

1199
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a battle man like. That's gonna be

1200
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 2: like the every.

1201
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 1: Year forever intertwine. They are forever gonna be connected to

1202
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: each other. The Tyler Algier thing has been cute the

1203
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: last couple of year. Yeah, it's been cute. I think

1204
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: we can we can pretty much.

1205
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 2: I appreciate his services.

1206
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 1: His his cherries have gone down every year, went from

1207
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: two ten as a rookie to one eighty six the

1208
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: year after to one thirty seven last year. And I

1209
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: think now that they are fully integrated with Robinson and

1210
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: what he can do in that offense, I think you

1211
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: see that number fade even more. Wouldn't be surprised if

1212
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 1: Algier gets under a hundred carries this year and it's

1213
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: all Robinson. He's gonna get a ton of targets. We

1214
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: know that as well. Well. He's gonna be you know,

1215
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: I think Robinson is going to be for the Falcons.

1216
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,479
Speaker 1: He'll be what Christian McCaffrey was, you know, at his peak,

1217
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:09,919
Speaker 1: you know, sort of that guy that rarely ever comes off.

1218
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 3: That was so long ago.

1219
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: Anyway, the guy really ever comes off the field, he's

1220
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of targets. He's gonna be the

1221
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: focal point of the offense. Uh. And then he's gonna,

1222
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: you know, make haters like Lakwan question for you.

1223
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 3: Guys, because I might have this decision in my home league.

1224
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 3: I have the third pick, and it looks like it

1225
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 3: might go Chase Lamb. The first two I'm taking, which

1226
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 3: if one of them go the top two, I'm taking

1227
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 3: which everyone falls. But if you had the choice in

1228
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 3: a half PPR, who are you taking between Chase and

1229
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 3: No No, between bijeon and and Gibbs.

1230
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: Gibbs half people, I still think I go Bijon, just

1231
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: because as much as I think the Lions go all

1232
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 1: in on Jamior Gibbs, David Montgomery is still going to

1233
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: get work, Like David Montgomery is gonna get more work

1234
00:54:58,440 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: than Tyler Ali.

1235
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 3: There you go, that's yeah, point, That's so, That's the

1236
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 3: way I've been leaning. But there is part of me

1237
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,439
Speaker 3: that keeps being like this might be just the year.

1238
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 2: That might take sixty seven.

1239
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: No, I really could. That's certainly in the realm of

1240
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: out coming. But I just think, I think, when you

1241
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: look at it, Montgomery gets more work than our year,

1242
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: So I take Robinson over Gibbs.

1243
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 3: That's the only reason I have him ahead of Gibbs.

1244
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, there you go. Uh, those are

1245
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,720
Speaker 1: our superlatives along with our bold predictions and hot takes.

1246
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: We can start filling up our taco meter for the

1247
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: regular season because it starts next week. We are not

1248
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: with you again on Monday because of the holiday, so

1249
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: enjoy your Labor Day weekend. Everybody back with you with

1250
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: video shows starting on Wednesday and then on Friday, so

1251
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: you'll talk to you then in the meantime. That'll do

1252
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 1: it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.

1253
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: They happy, save and healthy, do good and lived well,

1254
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: good luck on the moves to Dallas, Susie, the rest

1255
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: of you thro bye again.