1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Before we check in with the Champa Bay Buccaneers. 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: Here is Tom Brady yesterday after the game talking about 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. How disappointed are you? Bruce Arian said, he's 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: no longer a buck. Yeah, I mean that's um obviously 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: a difficult situation. And you know, I think we all 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: want you know, him to to you know, just I 8 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: think everybody should find, you know, hopefully do what they 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: can to help him in ways that you know he 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: really needs it. And you know, we all love him, 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: We care about him deeply. You know, we want to 12 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: see him be at his best and you know, unfortunately 13 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: won't be with our team, but we have a lot 14 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: of friendships that that will last. And again, I think 15 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: the most important thing about football of the relationships with 16 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: your friends and your teammates, and they go beyond the field. 17 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,959 Speaker 1: And I think everyone should should be very compassionate and 18 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: empathetic toward some very difficult things that are happening. And 19 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: here's what Bruce Arians had to say. This is all 20 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: he had to say about Antonio Brown. We want to 21 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: talk about that last drive, but I have to Can 22 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: you tell us what happened to Antonio Brown? Did he quit? 23 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,320 Speaker 1: I've never seen a guy leave a field like that? 24 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: And is this the last strike for him? He is 25 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: no longer a book? All right, that's the end of 26 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: the story. Let's talk about the guys that we're not doing. 27 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: One day game springing Greg alm and he covers the 28 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: Buccaneers for the Athletic and he joins us on the program. Greg, 29 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. What led up to this moment 30 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: with Antonio Brown? Yeah, it's kind of hard. There's a 31 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: little bit of a he said. She said in terms 32 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: of whether whether Bruce arians told him he was done 33 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: for the day or asked him to leave. It's one 34 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: of those where Abe's been dealing with an ankle injury 35 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: for some time. My understanding things is that they asked 36 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: Aby to go back in the game and he said 37 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: he couldn't because of his ankle, and Bruce told him 38 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: if you're if you're not going in now, you're done 39 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: for the day, and that set him off, and that's 40 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: what set him to pull his jersey off and his 41 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: shirt off and run through the end zone to the 42 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: tunnel and out of the Bucks. If not out of 43 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: the league. What was his injury status going into the game. Yeah, 44 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: he tweaked his ankle midweek, didn't practice after Wednesday, so 45 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: it was kind of a question mark whether he'd go 46 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: or not. But he looked fine for the game. Had 47 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: a nice catch at a twenty one year to catch 48 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: earlier in the game. Seemed fine. It didn't seem like 49 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: something an issue. Obviously, you could aggravate things pretty easily 50 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 1: during a game, but was kind of getting his normal usage, 51 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: normal playing time. He's got some incentives that would have 52 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 1: kicked in with a few more catches or one more touchdown, 53 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: So no, everything seemed like he should be. I had 54 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: first noticed it just on that drive. It was it 55 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: was a touchdown drive and I saw Breshad Perriman was 56 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: in the game kind of for the first time, and 57 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: it was like, wait, why is burshote in the game? 58 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: Where is a b And it kind of went from there. 59 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: There was a moment and I took note of it. 60 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: Brady's walking down the sidelines and he's talking to a 61 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: couple of guys like he felt like he was like, 62 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: let's go, and he says something to Antonio Brown and 63 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown looked like he was so disinterested. So I 64 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know where we were at that 65 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: moment or he was in his head, but it felt 66 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: like he'd already checked Dount. I don't know if I'm 67 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: being fair to the situation, but I did. It was 68 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: interesting because Brady's always Brady Antonio Brown, you know, he's 69 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: following Tom. I mean, he's there because of Tom. And 70 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: that's what was surprising. It wasn't Brady in the huddle 71 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: when ab did what he did on the sideline, So 72 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: I mean he had to be going, what the hell 73 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: was going on here? Right? Oh? And talk to players. 74 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: I don't think we really got an answer from players. 75 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: We didn't talk to Mike Evans. Mike was probably the 76 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 1: guy that was the closest to trying to rain Antonio 77 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: an and kind of hey, don't don't do this, don't 78 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: don't walk off the field in the middle of the 79 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: game to no avail. So yeah, when we talked to 80 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: when we asked other guys, even lebon Bell, who's known 81 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: Abe since Pittsburgh days. You know, I don't think he 82 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: realized the extent of it until even after the game. 83 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: In terms of this, the finality of it that he's done. 84 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: I think it just kind of unfolded, and as you 85 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: might imagine, Brady and most of the the guys in offense, 86 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: we're focused on trying to get a touchdown just to 87 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: make it a one score game late in the third quarter. Yeah, 88 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: that's crazy. Where did he go after the game? It's 89 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: funny would he be like everything is on social media, 90 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: so like went into the tunnel. I think ESPN said 91 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: he had asked security at the stadium for a ride 92 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: to the airport and they declined, and then you know, 93 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: he's waiting outside the stadium. He got kind of a 94 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: celebrity uber driver in New York to take him into 95 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: the city. It sounds like he's posting links to rap songs. 96 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: He's posting. I don't know that he's back in Tampa yet, 97 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: but he's it's kind of immaterial at this point where 98 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: he is. It felt like Bruce arians was in a 99 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: real delicate situation here because Tom Brady wanted Antonio Brown 100 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: and I don't know if Bruce said, look, he's on 101 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: you in your care. He's under your watch here, Tom, 102 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: because I don't want him here. It felt like he 103 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: didn't want him back after the you know, the fake 104 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: vaccination card. How much of this is on Tom Brady, 105 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: of this situation where it is right now. I think 106 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: Tom vouch for Antonio. I mean, and it's funny because 107 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: they played together for one game. They don't have this 108 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: long history together like he had Edelman coming in or something. 109 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: But I do think having Tom vouch for you carries 110 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: a lot of weight with this team and with his 111 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: coaching staff. And I do think you know, Bruce arians 112 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: was reluctant on this. If you talked to Bruce, you know, 113 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: early twenty twenty, he said it wasn't a match. He 114 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: said he was too much of a diva. And I 115 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: think part of it was just the injury situation of 116 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: the first half a last season that Mike Evans and 117 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: Chris Godwin were both dealing with injuries and they wanted 118 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: to insulate themselves. They wanted one more pro Bowl level 119 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: receiver that Brady would have no matter what, and you 120 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: take the risk that comes with that. And even at 121 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: the end of last season, he catches a touchdown the 122 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and you think how remarkable it is that 123 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: things came and went the entire season without incident. You 124 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: didn't say or do anything wrong, And unfortunately that came 125 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: around you here with the vaccine card issue this summer. 126 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: He's Greg Allman. He covers the Buccaneers for the Athletic. 127 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: Could they deactivate him to keep him off other rosters here? 128 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: I'm curious about that. It's a little bit like they 129 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: had to deal with Keishan Johnson the one year where 130 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: they kind of kept him on the roster at the 131 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,799 Speaker 1: end of the year. I don't know how likely another 132 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: team would be to sign him. You want to think 133 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: there's a level of radioactivity where you don't pick a 134 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: guy up immediately. But I'm sure somebody with the Raiders 135 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: or Answer, somebody else thought this is the NFL, Greg, 136 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: come on right, Maybe Larry Fitzgerald. Maybe Tom reaches out 137 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: to Larry Fitzgerald. Yeah, it sounds like they've got a 138 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: podcast together. It sounds like Larry is pretty retired. Yeah, 139 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: but the first thing, obviously Brady has been able to 140 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: bring guys out of retirement before. So if it's not 141 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: Fitzgerald talk, it's Edelman talk. I think they probably have 142 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: to move forward what they have. But they've got some 143 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: some big names they could call if they wanted to. 144 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: I just wonder how formidable this team is now as 145 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: opposed to last year when they were on the role, 146 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: they were healthy. This year, I don't know. If they're 147 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: on a roll and they're not healthy, handicapped their chances 148 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: here come playoff Tea. It's tough because they're missing so 149 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: many guys. I mean, it's not just Godwin and Brownett receiver. 150 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: I mean Leonard Fernette iss a question mark. Lavante David 151 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: is a question mark. Both of their pass rusher, Shack 152 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: Barrett and JPP didn't play yesterday, so you don't know 153 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: how close to hundred percent they're going to be in 154 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: two weeks when the playoffs starts. I think they can 155 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: help themselves with seating the Cowboys. Losing yesterday bumped them 156 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: up to a three seed. If they can get the 157 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: Rams to lose on Sunday, they could be a two seed. 158 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: Tom Brady's path to the Super Bowl has always been 159 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: at home. Last year was kind of an anomaly because 160 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: being on the road you didn't have to do with crowds. 161 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: So they won three road games, but they did it 162 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: in largely empty stadium. So I think if they want 163 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: to be able to get to Los Angeles, they need 164 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: an easier path, and I think right now They's probably 165 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: gonna have to go through Lamboat no matter what, unless 166 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: somebody can take care of the Packers for they get there. 167 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: It'll be the same thing they had last year, an 168 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: NFC championship game in Green Bay in January and a 169 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: lot more fans there this time around. I know Tom 170 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: Brady was saying that, you know, we should be compassionate here. 171 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: You know, let's look at this if like he's acknowledging 172 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown has something issues, But were those issues addressed 173 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: as a person not a player when Antonio Brown got there. 174 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: I mean, Tom knows that there's something there. I just 175 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: don't know if he was seeking help or helping him 176 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: to be, you know, be more comfortable in who he 177 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: is here. Yeah, I think you know, early on when 178 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: Aby came here, he talked about, you know, meeting with 179 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: Tony Robbins, getting to a better place. I think there 180 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: was a time last season where he was really in 181 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: a good place in terms of handling himself, having the 182 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: right attitude now only about football, but everything else. I 183 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: didn't get that sense as much. And I don't know 184 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: if the Bucks helped him this fall just in enabling him. 185 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: You know, you think about what he did the way 186 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: the team backed him, how critical Arians was of the 187 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: initial report, how dismissive he was of any criticism of 188 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: his decision to keep him on the team. I think 189 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: it probably just emboldened Antonio Brown to think he can 190 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: do whatever he wants, and that's what you saw yesterday afternoon. 191 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: For sure, is Bruce Arians on the injury list. He does, 192 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,599 Speaker 1: he's gotten it. He told us last night that his 193 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: achilles ten and his fifty percent torn, so he's doing 194 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: everything he can to avoid surgery, both now and in general. 195 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: He's sixty nine years old and achilles surgery is a 196 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: big thing at any age. We saw yesterday before the game, 197 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: he literally took he has a golf cart that he 198 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: usually rides around practice in and they literally took him 199 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: all the way up to the thirty in pregame and 200 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: dropped him off to be on the sidelines. I think 201 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: it's just a lot right now for him to be 202 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: standing for three four hours on a sideline. And I'm 203 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: sure whenever their season is done, he'll be able to 204 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: do some things to make things better, but right now 205 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: it's not a comfortable thing for him. Greg. Thanks for 206 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: joining us. We appreciate your time. Hey, thanks again. Guess 207 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: that's Greg Amen, the Bucks beat writer for The Athletic. 208 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 209 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 210 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeart Radio app, or 211 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: stream us live on the Peacock Act. Paul Feinebomb who 212 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: joins us now the host of the Paul Finebomb Show 213 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: on ESPN Radio. Paul's part of ESPN's exclusive coverage of 214 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two college football Playoff National Title Game, 215 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: kicking off next Monday, January tenth, at eight eastern. Paul, 216 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: is it a good thing that Georgia and Alabama are 217 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: meeting again for a national championship? Well, you know, Dan, 218 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: I'm contractually obligated not to say anything negative, but by 219 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 1: the way, keep that in mind for the next question 220 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: or the one after that as well. I heard the 221 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: previous segment. Yeah, I geat, this is not a good 222 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: thing for college football. And I say that because I 223 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 1: think the whole idea for fans that you want to 224 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: see something different, you want to see something interesting, you 225 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: would like to see East versus West, North versus South. 226 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: So seeing a game that we saw five weeks Ago 227 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: is not probably going to light up the bars in 228 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: Manhattan or in Los Angeles. But that's you know, what 229 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: can you do about it. There's only one way to 230 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: try to get around that this and that's to expand 231 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: the playoff. It may not work, but you know, the 232 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: SEC seems to like four. Frankly, they like too right now. Yeah, 233 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 1: when people say, well, well, if you expand the playoffs, 234 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: you're still going to get George against Alabama, which could 235 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: be true, but you do get more fan bases involved 236 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: in this and that you're playing meaningful games, meaningful bowl 237 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: games where if you win that bowl game, you go 238 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: to another bowl game. There it's just a question of 239 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: are we still going to get back to Alabama and 240 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: Georgia or you know, is it going to be one 241 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: or two SEC teams? No matter what, Well, whether you 242 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: get back Alabama or Georgia, I don't think is the 243 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: most important point. The point is that you have a 244 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: build up. I mean, why are we watching football tonight 245 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: or Saturday and Sunday to see, you know, whether you 246 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: get a buy, to see whether you get a good seed. 247 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: And to me, that's where the NFL has it over 248 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: college football. The college football season you have championships Saturday 249 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: on December third, and then it goes to sleep, yeah, 250 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: for four weeks, and we wake up on New Year's 251 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: even then we're right back asleep again because the playoff 252 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: games have been a total disaster. The stat proved that 253 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: I won't waste your time on it. And then and 254 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: then so you you go to bed knowing who's playing 255 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: in the National Championship game, and you wake up and 256 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: guess what You've got? All day football of games that 257 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: didn't matter in the margins. And but before I, before 258 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 1: we move on, Dan, let me remind you, I think 259 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: it's Tuesday night. This week we have LSU and Kansas 260 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: State and some bowl somewhere exclusively on ESPN. I'll watch it. 261 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: But I didn't even thank you for the heads up. 262 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: What is Cincinnati's loss going to mean for other non 263 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 1: power of five the next team? I think the fact 264 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: that they played a better game than Michigan Health. I mean, 265 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 1: I mean I was I was there, and it was 266 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: an interesting game for a while. It was not a 267 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: complete annihilation. Um. I don't think that committee next year, 268 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 1: if they have a similar situation, is going to say, 269 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: you know what, Cincinnati lost by three touchdowns. Let's keep 270 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: them out. I think what it tells me, and unfortunately 271 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: it's not telling the people that matter, is it. We 272 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: really do need to expand this. I felt like it 273 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: was a great experience for Cincinnati. I liked having somebody 274 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: new in there, and I think Luke Fickle is one 275 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: of the premier coaches. But you know the problem. The 276 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: problem is in Cincinnati, it's Alabama. Because Alabama does this 277 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: to everyone, they'd be Notre Dame by my seventeen last year, 278 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: even though it was really a twenty four point game, 279 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: they beat everyone by three touchdowns. So I think we're 280 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: obviously blaming the wrong team. I think the thing to 281 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: do is to move Alabama maybe to the NFC South, 282 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: and we'll have a much better playoff every year. But 283 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: I wondered I had chuckled a little bit when I 284 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: was reading some articles that this is the best coaching 285 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: job that Saban's ever done. I mean, the last I looked, 286 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: Alabama still has the Heisman Trophy winner. They've got two 287 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: really good wide receivers, they got a first round draft 288 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: pick at lineback. I mean, that's not a bad team 289 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: to have if you're going to have one of your 290 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: best coaches. It's not like Belichick after Brady left, you know, 291 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: this is he The cupboard wasn't bare there? So did 292 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: Saban do his best coaching job this year? Because maybe 293 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: we're not familiar with these players? I think I think 294 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: I used to be a newspaper column, miss Dan as 295 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: you remember, and you're just trying to come up with 296 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: something new to say about Nick Saban. Uh, it was. 297 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: It was fifteen years ago today I was. I was 298 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: doing local radio and TV in Birmingham. He arrived from 299 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: Miami and all the pundon said he wouldn't last. So 300 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: I mean, we are struggling to find new things to say. 301 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: And I mean I came on right after the game 302 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: on the Honor Network and it was rather boring. Okay, 303 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: Nick Saban going to another national championship. In case you've 304 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: lost count, this is his tense national championship game, whether 305 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: it's BCS or college football playoff. And I mean, you 306 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,119 Speaker 1: really I think, I mean, maybe I missed something on Suchevsky, 307 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: but but John would He is the only guy that's 308 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: come close to that, I think, in in the two 309 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: major sports. And he did a good job. But you know, 310 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: it's three straight years with three different starting quarterbacks, and 311 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: how two of those guys are starting in the NFL 312 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: right now and the one in the quarterback before that 313 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: starting in the NFL, and this year's quarterback is only 314 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: the highs of the trophy Worner. So, uh, I think 315 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: that's probably a you're overreaching the or overshooting the runway 316 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: to make that statement. I know that you're on scholarship 317 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: there with the mother Ships, so you might choose your 318 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: words carefully. But I didn't agree with kurkkurbs Street and 319 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: Desmond Howard saying that the players who opped out of 320 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: the bull games don't love football. Your thoughts, Um, I'm 321 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: sorry Dan's assurance. You know, I think you said it 322 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: best when when when you said that, you know, maybe 323 00:15:53,880 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: the overnight flight from Miami to Pasadena, uh clouded his judgment. Um, 324 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think these players have the 325 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: right and should do anything they want. And your point 326 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: was the best one. If the coaches can bail, the 327 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: players should be able to do whatever they want. And 328 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: I think trying to you know, look at the way 329 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: it used to be versus the way it is now 330 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: is is wrong. I mean, we have a playoff now, 331 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: there wasn't a playoff when I was in school, when 332 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: you were in school, or when when when Kirk was 333 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: in school. And yeah, these guys give everything. If they 334 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: don't want to play in a ball game, good for them. 335 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: I mean, whole teams didn't want to play in bowl 336 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: games this year, forget players. I thought it was ironic, Dan, 337 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: And don't think I'm trying to skate here, even though 338 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: I am that uh that none of the major bowl 339 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: games got canceled, just the ones prior to New Year's Eve. Now, 340 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: I know the Gator Ball had had a change of 341 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: team because Texas A and them couldn't make it. But 342 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: at least they were nice about it. They gave they 343 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: gave the host committee a week and a half to 344 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: find a team with a look what they have a 345 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: five and seven records, So that was really benevolent of them. 346 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: It's great to talk to you as always, and I 347 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: hope I didn't get you in trouble here. Um. I 348 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: don't know why I'm getting call fitting right now, but 349 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: damn it's always a pleasure. Happy Happy New Year. I'll 350 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: leave you with this, who wins the National title game? 351 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: I am leaning toward the man of the moment. That's 352 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: Nick Stabent, the greatest coach in history of the guy 353 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: who I read this morning and yesterday USA Today did 354 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: his best coaching. Thank you, buddy, that's thank you very much. 355 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: Fine Bomb hosted the Paul fine Bomb Show in the 356 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: ESPN Radio the voice of the SEC. Fox Sports Radio 357 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch 358 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com 359 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: and within the iHeart Radio app search f SR to 360 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 1: listen live. He's my Carmen, I'm Dan Fire. We have 361 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: a brand new fantasy football podcast called I Want Your Flex. 362 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: Twice a week every Tuesday and Friday, we come up 363 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: with new episodes to not only look back at what happened, 364 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: what you need to do at that minute, and also 365 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: look ahead of what's coming up in the fantasy football world. 366 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: That's right, Dan. Every week we're going to scour the 367 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: waiver wire to find the pickups to turbo boost your 368 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: fantasy lineup six starts, fantasy football players rankings to get 369 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 1: you ready to dominate the competition. Listen to I Want 370 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: Your Flex with Mike Carmen and met Dan Buyer on 371 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast and wherever you get your podcasts. 372 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: We say good morning, as we always do on Monday, 373 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: to Carson Palmer, former NFL quarterback Heisman Trophy winner. I 374 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: was curious, if I go back to your days at 375 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: USC when you knew you were going to be the 376 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: number one overall pick. But let's say you were playing 377 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: in the Peach Bowl, not a playoff game. Would Carson 378 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: Palmer of today play in a game like that? I 379 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: would have Back then, it just wasn't heard of. I 380 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 1: mean really, nobody had really really done it until Christian 381 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 1: McCaffrey did it at Stanford. And I don't remember what 382 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: bowl game it was, but it wasn't the Orange Bowl, 383 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: and I remember at the time the Sun Bowl. Yeah. 384 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: I remember at the time thinking, well, he should have 385 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: a pretty good idea on what's right, knowing his dad's 386 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: Ed McCaffrey and played in the league for a long time, 387 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 1: so he's probably got some really good guidance on this. 388 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: And being a running back and the hits they take 389 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: and the pounding that they take and the possibility of 390 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: injury is probably greater than a quarterback. But it just 391 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: wasn't heard of until Christian McCaffrey did it. And now 392 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: guys are doing it weekend and week out as we 393 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: get to bowl season and you just don't know who's available. 394 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: But back then, when I was playing, it was just 395 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 1: a chance to play one more game. At the end 396 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,959 Speaker 1: of the day, in college football, you only get like 397 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: twelve opportunities to put put film out there to get drafted. So, 398 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: you know, my mindset back then, and a majority of 399 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: all college football players mindset was, you need a game film. 400 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,239 Speaker 1: You need opportunities and chances to shine and show what 401 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: you can do for NFL teams to be able to 402 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: draft you. So it was just one more opportunity to 403 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: go out and perform and possibly get drafted higher. Yeah, 404 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: but you knew you were going to be a Heisman 405 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: Trophy candidate or you were going to win the Heisman. 406 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: You're going to be a top five pick. Do you 407 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: play in a game if you had that season at USC, 408 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: would you be playing in a meaningless bowl game at 409 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: a non playoff game? Now? Would you be like Kenny 410 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: Pickett or would you be like Matt Carroll. I would 411 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: play I mean I played in the Senior Bowl, which 412 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: which wasn't really for a championship or really anything, you know, 413 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: for your college career. But the Senior Bowl came along 414 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: and I got invited, and I wanted to go and 415 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,239 Speaker 1: play and compete against those guys. I do understand it. 416 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: I mean, at this you know, I understand part of it. 417 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: Guys don't want to get hurt. Guys don't want to 418 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: hurt their draft stock. But now guys can also actually 419 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: make money in college and put some money in the bank. 420 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: So you've had an opportunity to earn some money and 421 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: put some money away for you know, for the rest 422 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: of your life. Now you're you're hearing about you know, 423 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: Bryce at at Alabama, you know has already made a 424 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: million bucks in college. So you know, when you weigh 425 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: in the fact that back in the day, you couldn't 426 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: make any money and guys didn't miss the opportunity to 427 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: play in bull games, and now guys can make money, 428 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: and guys are dropping out of bull games left and 429 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: right because they're worried about their future earning. So it's 430 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: you know, the correlation there doesn't make sense. I think 431 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: you play and if if you really love playing the 432 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: game and you love the opportunity to compete with your guys, 433 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: the guys you came in with your your you know, 434 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: your your freshman class and all that. There's so many 435 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: little added things that go into it that, you know, 436 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: I have a tough time watching guys not play. Aaron 437 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: Rodgers was asked about playing against the Lines. They've wrapped 438 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: up the number one seed in the NFC, and of 439 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: course he's been battling the toe injury, and I was wondering, 440 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: does he even play in this game? Um, your thoughts 441 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: on Rogers playing or not playing in a meeting list 442 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: game against the Lines. I think the Most Valuable Player 443 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: trophy means a lot more to Aaron than than a 444 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: lot of people realize. And I think he's still got 445 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: a chance to win the MVP. He's possibly the front runner, 446 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: if not in the top three. He could use three 447 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: or four more touchdown passes, another four hundred yards, another, 448 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: you know, another statistically dominant performance in order to be 449 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 1: in in you know, in the running at the end 450 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: of the year for the MVP. So I see him playing. 451 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: And on top of that too, when we're talking about 452 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: a little a little bone in your foot that's broken, 453 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: that's not gonna help that in another week. Doesn't automatically 454 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: fix that or change that if it was a ligament 455 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: issue or some damage to a muscle, maybe a hamstring 456 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: poll or a quad pull, something like that. A week 457 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: can be m you know, an immense amount of healing time, 458 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: but when you're talking about a broken broken peaky toe 459 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: or a broken foot, it's just not enough to miss 460 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: an entire and entire week's work and another chance to 461 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: go out and statistically have a great day. You're the 462 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: first person to answer it, I think correctly, and that 463 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: is that MVP for Aaron Rodgers this year is an 464 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: fu to a lot of people, and I think that 465 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: that might be at the crux of this that he 466 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: can say to the packers, Hey, my foot, my toe, 467 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: it's not going to get any better, hopefully doesn't get 468 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: any worse, but we're a number one seed. I don't 469 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: want to be not playing for two weeks because if 470 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: you don't play against lines, you don't play in that 471 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: first week of the playoffs. I want to be ready 472 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: to go. And at the crux of this is probably 473 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: and to be nice to go back to back MVPs, 474 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: no doubt. I mean, he hasn't talked about it. He 475 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: can't talk about it. Anybody that's played and been in 476 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: his position before. You know, that is extremely important. That's 477 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: another just another little piece of leverage as he us 478 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: into this offseason. We don't know which way he's going. 479 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: It's just another little bit of leverage, and leverage is 480 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: everything in this game. Should Baker Mayfield play against the 481 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: Steelers tonight, absolutely, one hundred percent. Baker's got to prove 482 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: himself and unfortunately he hasn't done enough to prove himself 483 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 1: as being the future and the franchise and the you know, 484 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: long term, six seven, eight year contract guy. But he's 485 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: injured though, Carson, and if he hasn't proven to you yet, 486 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if playing tonight against the Steelers does 487 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: anything true. You know, he can go out and and 488 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: you know, operate at sixty or seventy percent, and sixty 489 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: or seventy percent for Baker, you know, isn't enough to 490 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: beat a rivalry team in the Pittsburgh Steelers on the road, 491 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: So no doubt. But knowing Baker, he's got that mentality 492 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: he's not going to let anybody take his spot. He 493 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 1: doesn't want um. You know, he doesn't want to have 494 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: the opportunity to stand the side and watch somebody else 495 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: play his position. He's very competitive, he's ultra ultra competitive. 496 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: So I just I think he plays and there's no 497 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: doubt about it. Yeah, I wonder about it because he 498 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: hasn't played well and you're playing against Steelers, it'll be big. 499 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: I know it's a rivalry game, but it's a game 500 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: that doesn't really mean anything. I don't know. It feels 501 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: like he could do more harm than good. Speaking of which, 502 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, do you have any idea who he is? Yeah, 503 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: he's a constant distraction. I mean, now, now, Dan, we 504 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: talked every week and I talk all the time about 505 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: just these distractions, this this issue that this team has 506 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: to answer questions, Mike Evans, Tom Brady, for all these guys, 507 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: they're going to be talking about Antonio Brown all week. 508 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: Bruce arians is going to go into every he's got 509 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: three pressers this week, every press conference he's going to 510 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: go into. He's got to talk about Antonio Brown and 511 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: got it. It's it's just another distraction. Unfortunately, I think 512 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: we've seen the last Antonio Brown. I'd be shocked if 513 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: somebody else gave him another opportunity, but really really disappointed 514 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: to me. He was such a great player. He blew 515 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: so many opportunities and really gotten his own way. He 516 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: consistently gotten his own way in Pittsburgh, and we saw 517 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: what happened there. He got in his own way in Oakland, 518 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: Las Vegas, we saw what happened there. He now gotten 519 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: his own way in Tampa. And the third time's the charm. 520 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: I think we've seen the end of one of the 521 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: most talented, athletically given receivers that I've had an opportunity 522 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: to watch with my eyes on a field, and it's 523 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: just unfortunate. We're talking to Carson Palmer, former NFL quarterback. 524 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: I go back to that cheap shot by Vontes Burfitt, 525 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: and I don't know if one hit changes you, but 526 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: it felt like and I could be way off the 527 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: base here, but it felt like that he became something 528 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: different then or something happened to him, and maybe he 529 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: was a diva all the time, but I don't know. 530 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: Just I still go back to that, and I thought 531 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: about that yesterday as he's leaving the field. I go 532 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: back to that shot he took from Vontes Burfitt. I disagree. 533 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: I don't think it's one hit. I don't think it's 534 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: one play. I think it's a combination of fame, money, power. 535 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: You know, he got a taste that he was an 536 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: undrafted guy or a late round draft pick from a 537 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: school that a lot of people, you know, didn't know 538 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: how to football team. He started off on the practice squad. 539 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: He worked his way up. He went from no fame 540 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: to one of the most famous players in the NFL 541 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: in those couple of years there in Pittsburgh, and some 542 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: guys it's just too much to handle. Some guys can't 543 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: deal with it. Unfortunately, the more fame, the more the 544 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: more respect, the more power he's gotten to be able 545 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: to show up and not want to put cleats on 546 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: or whatever that issue was in Las Vegas with his 547 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: cleats and his burnt feet. You know, once you get 548 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: a taste of that fame and that power, you know, 549 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: unfortunately some guys can't handle it. It just looks like 550 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: he couldn't handle it because the situation was so good 551 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: with John Gruden, They're playing for the Raiders and Derek Carr, 552 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: and that system would have been so good. Not that 553 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: the system wasn't so good for him with Ben Roethlisberger 554 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, another great situation. Maybe he saw the writing 555 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: on the Wall with Ben, you know, getting older and 556 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: going downhill. But there he was in playing for the 557 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: Raiders in a great situation, then New England and then Tampa. 558 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: I mean the situations and the quarterbacks he's had a 559 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: chance to play with. Not everybody gets that opportunity, and 560 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: not very many guys would would absolutely ruin those opportunities, 561 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: and we've seen him consistently ruined every opportunity he's gotten. 562 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,239 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford fascinates me and worries me, all in the 563 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: same game, and not necessarily in that order. Carson, what 564 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: concerns do you have, if any, Well, just like you said, 565 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: the inconsistencies, I mean, some of the balls he throws, 566 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: there's only two or three other guys in the league 567 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: can actually throw that ball. And then some of the 568 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: balls he throws, there's a whole bunch of guys across 569 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: the country they could throw those and make that decision. 570 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: You know, it's at some point, you know, we're starting 571 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: to get into past that point of where it's a 572 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: new team, it's a new offense, it's a new system, 573 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: their new sievers. He's had plenty of time to consistently 574 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: work with those guys and develop rapport and trust and 575 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: respect with those guys. Unfortunately, there's times he just doesn't 576 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: look on the same page where he's expecting a guy 577 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: to be a little higher and a route or a 578 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: little flattering a route, and he's off one way or 579 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: the other. So we're getting to that point where it 580 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: is starting to be concerning because they've had plenty of 581 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: time to work and develop that relationship and that rapport. Unfortunately, 582 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: we're getting at that time where one of those decisions, 583 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,479 Speaker 1: one of those parrent throws, can cause you to go 584 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: home and no longer play in the playoffs. So it's 585 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: absolutely concerning. They have enough talent, they have enough just 586 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: raw athletes on both sides of the ball to overcome 587 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: one of those in the playoffs. But when you start 588 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: talking about one or two of those decisions in the playoffs, 589 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: those can bite you in the butt. How do you 590 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: utilize Cooper Cup because he's not your prototypical number one 591 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: wide receiver, wide guys, speed guy. So as a quarterback, 592 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: how do you use I know they've done a pretty 593 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: good job because he's got, you know, eighteen hundred yards 594 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: this year, but what is it? You know, how do 595 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: you utilize somebody who doesn't necessarily beat you with great speed. 596 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: You just get the ball in his hands. Get the 597 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: ball in his hands, give him as many chances he 598 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: had a play he was He had a six or 599 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: seven yard gain on third down, and it looked like 600 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: he was going to step out of bounds, and and somehow, 601 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 1: some way he made a cut back in bounds and 602 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: got another fifteen or twenty yards out of a play 603 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: where you're just going there. There's nothing left in this 604 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: play except for a guy like Cooper Cup who can, 605 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: just like a magician, find a way to almost step 606 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: out of bounds but cut back against the grain and 607 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: make three guys miss. You don't got it. It's not 608 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: about run to four two, it's not about a forty 609 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: five inch vertical jump. It's about when the ball is 610 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: in your hands, what do you do with that? And 611 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: he consistently, from from week one of his rookie year 612 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: until right now, he's consistently made plays. He's consistently created 613 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: separation to get open and then his yak and and 614 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: yards after the first touch. I mean, he's breaking tackles, 615 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: he's spin moving, he's cutting against the grain. He may 616 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: not be the prototypical four two forty two inch vertical guy. 617 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: But he's a number one you know, he's a number 618 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: one threat from a receiver position in just about every 619 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,479 Speaker 1: offense across the league. Everybody would take him. Great stuff. 620 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: Great to talk to you again, Carson, and we'll talk 621 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: to you next week. Happy New Year to you and 622 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: the family. Thanks Dan, Happy New Year. And that's Carson 623 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: Palmer his weekly appearance during the NFL season. Bront you 624 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: buyer partner level slex CBD. Looking for next level relief 625 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: is at level slexcbd dot com.