WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Ossenfort Takes Over As General Manager 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:04.880 Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. Oh 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:08.520 and ahead, he got jacked. This is the big Red 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:14.000 Rain presented by Santanford in Gilbert. Mary's gonna score touchdown 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:17.120 Slim to the ground by Buddha Baker Like a torpedo. 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:22.720 He came flying into the backfield. The rage is brought 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:27.560 to you by satan Ford in Gilbert. Are you Santanford 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:31.320 State Farm? Talk to an agent today at eight hundred 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:37.040 State Farm, And by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts visit Hacy Cardinals 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:45.839 dot com, Slash podcasts, The Reds, Rising Guard, temperaturizing vision, flurring, 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:50.279 rage taking over. Here's Paul CALVICI. I'm ready. I'm one 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:54.160 hundred percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready. And Ron Wolflee. 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:58.680 It doesn't get any better than that, boy, unleash the far. 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:04.840 That's not just a chill in the air, gentleman, not 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:11.440 just that rare wind chill in the desert that you're feeling. No, 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:17.200 dare we say that's the winds of change blowing through 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:21.520 Arizona and Cardinals HQ. Let's see here if you've been 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:28.560 scoring at home, new GM check new head coach, TBA, 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:35.360 new identity and culture incoming tick talk. It is the 0:01:35.360 --> 0:01:37.880 Big Red Rage, presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:41.679 are santan Ford and as for we, Paul Calves here, 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:45.760 Ron Wolfley there, joined by Darren Urburn, Cardinals Insider AC 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:49.560 Cardinals dot Com. Gentleman, how about it? The Big Red Rage, 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:53.080 the first of the monte Asinford era, as he is 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:55.400 the new GM and wolf You've been talking about it 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:58.560 all week and we'll get some top takeaways. But in 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:03.320 terms of maybe what you expected versus what transpired, how 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:07.240 would you assess that In the naming of Monty Ostenford. Yeah, 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:11.320 PAULA Man, I was pretty jacked up. I love his background, 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:15.080 absolutely love it. I love the teams that he's come 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:20.160 from and been associated with. Definitely wanted to hear more 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:23.400 of his personal beliefs on football of course and the 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:27.040 football universe, and I really liked it. If you're asking 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:30.400 me right now what my big takeaways were from this 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:34.800 press conference and meeting Monty Ostenford. Number one, there's a 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:37.480 new sheriff in town. That was that was number one ball. 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:41.239 There's a new sheriff in town, a number two. With 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:44.800 that is going to come a new culture as well, 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:47.040 and a new way of doing things, and I loved 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:52.280 what I was I was hearing smart, tough, disciplined, physical. 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:55.040 These are the things to me that I think the 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:58.280 new culture of the Arizona Cardinals will be going forward, 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:00.960 and it's very familiar to me, and I like that. 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:04.880 I would say my takeaways Paul the first couple, and 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:09.519 they're they're fairly specific. One we talk about where he's 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:12.000 from and the teams he's been around, which has been 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:14.400 the Titans the last three years and then mostly the Patriots, 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:16.920 and we all know what kind of histories that those 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.280 teams have in recent times, which are good ones. But 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:24.760 we also know that with Patriots Patriots people that have 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:27.079 come out and done this stuff, there's a mixed bag 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:29.720 sometimes on how it's worked out. And I loved how 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:32.480 he noted that he's going to take a little from 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:36.000 everywhere he's been. But one, you can't necessarily take one 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:38.360 thing from one building and transfer it to another building. 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:42.040 And I like that thought process because you don't want 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:45.560 him just to try and take the template, the Patriots 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:48.240 template or whatever template and just try and bring it 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:51.720 over here, because inevitably that doesn't work, because there's human 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:55.120 beings involved, and there's and and that can throw it off. 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:57.840 And I would say the other thing too is and 0:03:57.880 --> 0:03:59.720 this is what I was most interested in. And I 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:01.400 know a lot of this will have to do with 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:04.160 what happens with the coach, But I asked a couple 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:06.440 of times about Kyler Murray and his role in terms 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:08.920 of the coach and how he was looking at things. 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:11.680 And yeah, it was his first press conference, and maybe 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:13.600 he just wanted to make sure we went in this direction, 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:16.320 but he brought it. He made it real broad, real fast. 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:20.120 Like he did not talk directly about Kyler Murray, even 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:22.960 on Kyler Murray questions. He made it about the team. 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:26.160 He made it about the you know, the team needing 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:30.600 a coach, a team that needed coaches that developed all 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:33.559 players and a culture that you know, it's all about 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:36.880 the team. So I thought that was kind of interesting. Yes, 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.240 there was a press conference to start this week. It 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:42.159 was the new GM monte Asenford and the team owner 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:45.920 of Michael Bidwell, who was asked why monte Assenford. As 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:49.720 we went through the process and the whole process, it 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:55.120 became clear that monte Asenford had the combination of a 0:04:55.160 --> 0:05:00.279 well defined vision, a work ethic character, the back around 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:04.320 an experience and being with two great organizations, the New 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:09.440 England Patriots as well as the Tennessee Titans, in evolving roles, 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:13.240 and it became apparent all of the combination of those 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:16.880 things that Monty was going to be the best fit 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.279 for us. And your point, Darren, somebody put out a 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:22.200 list general managers who once upon a time scouted for 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:26.080 Bill Belichick. Here you go, Scott Piola, the Chiefs, Thomas 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:28.680 Dimitrof of the Falcons, Jason Light of the Bucks. Also 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:31.799 came through the Cardinals building, obviously, John Robinson of the Titans, 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:34.599 Bob Quinn of the Lions, Nick Casserio or the Texans, 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:37.160 Dave Ziggler or the Raiders, and now monte As and 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:39.800 Fort of the Cardinals. But like you, guys, I do 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:42.039 like the fact that he spent three years with the Titans. 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:44.240 I do like the fact that he got up there 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:47.320 and he said, you know what, I've taken bits and 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:50.200 pieces from other places. Wolf. I'm not trying to replicate 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:53.279 the Patriot away, because guess what, the Patriot wayte seemingly 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:56.760 only really truly works for Bill Belichick and Tom Brady. 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:00.680 Napoleon just nailed it right there, or I love what 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:04.479 you said because it's a great observation. You can't try 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:08.760 to be Bill Belichick. Don't try to be Bill Belichick. 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:11.000 And I think that's what a lot of guys do 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:14.320 that come from New England. What would Bill do? Is 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:17.040 what they ask? How should I react? What would Bill 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:19.919 think on this? What should I what should my answer 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:24.880 be on this quest? I honestly think he's got such 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:29.200 a great reputation, of course, being the greatest football coach 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:33.080 in the history of the game. In my opinion, so 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:35.880 many people when they leave there, they try to think 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:40.240 like Bill and b Bill as opposed to just being themselves. 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:43.400 It's a great observation and that really gets me jacked 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:46.600 up because I love the combination. I love the fact 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:49.480 that Monny was there for fifteen years. And I can 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:54.520 tell you guys from knowing Bill Belichick, smart, tough, discipline, 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.120 that's what he's looking for. And to your point, Paulie 0:06:57.120 --> 0:07:01.800 about the Tennessee Titans physical, maybe the most physical team 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:06.240 in the National Football League. Good, bad or indifferent, They're 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:08.960 gonna knock your face off. And I like the fact 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:11.480 he was there for three years. Here's my other initial 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:14.080 takeaway and just based on what we saw and heard 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:16.800 and what we've heard about Montias and forties that he's 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:19.800 very detail oriented. Would that make sense if you spent 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:23.640 fifteen years in the Patriots organization and what was missing 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:27.040 all of last season seemingly And I'm talking based on 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:30.400 what the players told the media, what the coaches repeatedly cited, 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:33.120 what we heard and hard knocks. How many times did 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:36.800 we hear ratchet up the attention to detail. The little 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:39.640 things are big things in the NFL. They will cost 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:43.600 you games. And we saw the same things, the same 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:47.440 error as being repeated, this self inflicted stuff quote endquote 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:50.880 we kept hearing about. So you know what it does 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:55.120 get down to making sure you're making those sacrifices that 0:07:55.200 --> 0:07:57.560 sometimes might not necessarily be in your own best interests, 0:07:57.600 --> 0:07:59.720 but are in the best interests of the team. And 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.280 maniastin Ford, well, he was asked about that and here 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:06.920 was maybe the biggest quote that resonated. We're gonna look 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:09.520 for the right type of players. Ego will not be 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:12.960 tolerated in this organization. There's one goal here as to win. 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:16.520 There's no putting personal interests in front of the team. 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:20.840 I was told once the definition of mental toughness is 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:24.760 putting the team in front of something that maybe would 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.040 have been better personally for me. So that, to me 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:30.000 is the type of players that we're looking for. Ego 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.120 will not be tolerated. Darren, did you get more of 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:34.280 a response on your Twitter account to anything other than 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:37.760 that comment right there? That obviously got everybody's attention, And 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:41.280 I understand why, and Paul, you and I talked about 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:45.360 on our podcast this week. I mean, look, every player 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:49.040 has ego if they get to this level, every single one, 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:53.839 even Wolf had an ego. So the idea that no 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:59.160 ego will be tolerated is probably not realistic. But if 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:02.240 you're talking in context of not letting the ego get 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:05.080 in the way of what is best for the team, 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:08.840 that's something you can get to. And he actually got 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:11.800 to that later talking about how he was once told 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:15.720 mental toughness was about being able to do something for 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:18.240 the team when the opposite would be better for you 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:21.360 to do, And to me, that's a little bit more 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.920 of getting to where he was going. It was a 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:26.480 great SoundBite. Don't get me wrong, I know I used it, 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:28.920 but again, like I said, I think all these guys 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:32.440 have an ego at sun level, and the question is 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:35.800 being able to work with it going forward. Yeah. Well, 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:38.000 I heard an interview you did Real Quick with an 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:40.520 kon Bolden this week. Yeah, didn't he say, you know what, 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:42.280 I'd love to catch twenty catches a game, but there 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:43.520 were games where I had to go out there and 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:47.080 throw twenty blocks. Yes, see exactly, Polly, That's what I 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:49.520 was just gonna say right now. You know, I think 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:52.520 a lot of people took that ego cut and kind 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:54.600 of ran with it right here when you could say 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:56.960 this right now, ego. I think it comes down to 0:09:57.000 --> 0:10:01.240 the schemes. That's the cardinal I think are going to run. 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:05.480 This is what I believe it's it's Kyler Murray saying 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:07.400 I'm going to go under center, and I'm going to 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:10.000 do that more Now. I'm not saying this is the 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:13.160 way it's going to be to me. When I heard 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:16.800 him say that, it was all scheme related. It's okay, 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:19.920 I'm gonna go under center because that's where I need 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:23.520 to grow my game the most. Trey McBride, you know what, 0:10:23.600 --> 0:10:25.959 I'm gonna line up and be the stud tight end. 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:28.480 I'm not gonna go ahead and be the move guy 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:30.800 all the time. I'm going to be a stud tight 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:33.640 end and I'm gonna work on my blocking because that's 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:35.679 what I need to do. They're not going to just 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:38.520 throw me the ball. I need to develop my game 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:41.760 and be more of a stud tight end, a y 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:45.160 tight end, than an h which is a move guy. 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.640 Isaiah Simmons, Hey, listen, if I need to get better 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:50.720 in the box, they're gonna stick me in the box. 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:54.040 They're gonna ask me to play inside linebacker. I need 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:56.440 to get a whole lot more physical. I need to 0:10:56.480 --> 0:11:00.160 accept it and embrace it. In other words, go out 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:03.880 of your comfort zone and start doing some things in 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:08.520 scheme that maybe you're not accustomed to or don't feel 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.559 comfortable with. Well, you know what, for the team, maybe 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:14.480 you have to learn how to do it. It's funny 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:17.280 when you say that, though, Wolf, because when you're talking 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:19.840 about scheme, we don't there's no coach, we don't know 0:11:19.880 --> 0:11:21.520 what the scheme is. So when I hear the general 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:24.640 manager say it, it feels more big picture to me 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:27.520 then maybe what you would be doing on the field. Well, 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:30.240 I guess what. When I heard him say that, right there, 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:33.199 I thought general manager is going to hire a coach 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:35.760 and be involved in hiring a coach who's going to 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:40.679 think the same way he is. And I think that's 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.680 the reason why I made that connection. Well and the 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:46.160 person who hired the GM as the owner, Michael Bidwell, 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:48.960 and after getting input from players and doing a lot 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:51.400 of research on the season that was he had the 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:55.240 following to say, we need more accountability. And that is 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:58.280 something that Monty and I talked about and it's clear 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:00.160 that that's going to be an emphasis here and that's 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:02.480 what he just described as setting ego aside, and it's 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:05.720 all about accountability to the team. It's absolutely something our 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:10.480 players are interested in and that's exactly what Maniasenford is about. 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:14.560 And well, if that's about holding everyone to a similar standard, right, 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:16.960 I mean, they're going to be superstars, we get that. 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:20.600 But to Darren's point, it's when that ego starts changing 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:24.920 maybe a routine or maybe expecting different standards for you 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:27.360 versus the rest of the team, when he becomes detrimental 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:33.160 to the overall operation, that's when someone has to step in. Yeah, Paulis, 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:35.960 there's no doubt you also have to check yourself and 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:38.600 your ego at the door. When you walk in. I 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:42.840 understand that nobody's bigger than the team, and as long 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:46.400 as you use the same approach with everybody, it has 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:49.880 to apply to everybody inside that locker room, there can 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:54.439 be absolutely zero exceptions to it. And this is one 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:58.000 of the reasons why I said my big reaction to 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:02.040 Monty in his introduction to the world, so to speak, 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:06.280 was the fact that, man, he was looking at the 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:08.720 team and saying, basically, We're going to come in and 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:10.840 I'm going to be the sheriff and this is going 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:14.199 to change. Everything is going to change around here. Every 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.720 player is going to be pulled through a filter, a 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:21.040 culture filter, and nobody is going to be an exception 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:23.320 to that. I think that is the best way to 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:27.600 go because once again, once you start making exceptions, you 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:30.560 start to ruin that culture. And when you talk about approach, 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:33.680 somebody asked him about that. As a personnel guy, I 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:35.880 have a system that I believe in and that's where 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:38.400 we're going to focus our time and attention, and we 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:41.240 are going to use traditional scouting methods. We are going 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:44.800 to use analytical scouting methods, and we are going to 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.640 every step of the way check our work make sure 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:53.480 we're not missing something and continue to add competition to 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:56.920 this roster at every opportunity that we have during the 0:13:56.960 --> 0:13:59.160 league year. And I tell you just my other takeaway 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:01.200 from that Press scomer. When he did start talking about 0:14:01.280 --> 0:14:04.199 personnel and accumulating talent through the draft or making trades 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:07.200 a free agency, you could tell his comfort level. You 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:10.640 could tell that's his wheelhouse, and that's what his reputation 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.320 is as a real grinder who does all that sort 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:16.000 of work. And so you know, maybe over the past 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:18.400 few years, that attention to detail that we talk about, 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.360 maybe some of that needs to be reinstituted in the 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:25.320 player of evaluation process as well. Well. Obviously you wish 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:28.600 the Cardinals would have had more success in their drafts 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:32.080 over the past few years, and so you would think 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:35.160 something would need to at least be tweaked, if not 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:39.720 wholesale overhauled. And and so we're going to see exactly 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:41.600 what that means. It's going to be very interesting. And 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:44.160 they're gonna hold the third pick in every round that 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:48.400 they're picking in with their own choices, and that's a 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.160 that's a nice place to be. You hate being there, 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:53.680 and even many said, he goes, I hope we're never 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:56.840 picking number three overall ever again. But the last time 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:58.720 they picked number three, they got a pretty good player 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.360 and that worked out pretty well for them, So hopefully 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:03.760 that'll happen again. I think we all know that player 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:05.840 Goes still goes on a first name basis with the 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:10.600 State of Arizona. Larry Fitzgerald, that guy, by the way, Darren. 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:14.000 Speaking of history, the last time the Arizona Cardinals went 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:17.400 outside the organization hired an external candidate to be GM 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:21.680 just GM was when nineteen seventy three. Think about that, 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:26.280 I mean think we're talking fifty years since the Cardinals 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.640 went outside the building for an external GM just a GM. 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:35.400 Obviously Buddy Ryan was. So the question is now who 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:37.160 is going to be the head coach? And there are 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:39.240 plenty of names that are out there, and there are 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:42.000 plenty of names have already interviewed and reportedly are going 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:44.400 to get interviews. So we'll get to the bottom of that. 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:47.400 What sort of head coach are they looking for? Is 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:50.560 there a formula? What is the best fit? We continue 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:52.800 Paul lvc ron Wolfie, Darren Urban. It's a big red 0:15:52.880 --> 0:16:00.760 Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. I look forward 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:03.480 to working alongside Michael, and as he mentioned, a big 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:06.200 step in that is finding our new head coach, and 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:10.680 together with Michael and myself and the new head coach 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:13.080 and everyone else in this organization, we're going to strive 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:17.480 to find a collaborative environment where we are completely aligned 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:20.640 in the football structure that we're going to put before 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:24.480 this organization. Arizona Cardinals making their list checking a twice. 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:27.920 Let there be head coaching interviews, fast and furious all 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:32.280 week long, reportedly will continue into the weekend. We'll see 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:37.160 what sort of timetable they have acted quickly on a GM, 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:40.480 honestly quicker than I thought they'd arrived at higher. That 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:43.280 is the new GM, monti As and Ford from the 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:45.880 Titans before that the Patriots. It's the Big Red Rage 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:49.160 presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. We are Santan Ford, 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:53.080 Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley, Darren Urban And you made a 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:56.200 good point. We were talking about how there's not nearly 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:59.120 as many head coaching openings this year as say last year, 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:01.880 when there were ten there were ten head coach Now 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.600 we've got half that many, and that might actually work 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:07.119 to the Cardinals benefit here. I think it does because 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:10.560 You're just there's there's a smaller pool of teams that 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:15.080 need guys, So the pool of potential candidates, there's only 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:17.200 so many guys that could be off the board even 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:19.119 if you were last. I'm not saying the Cardinals are 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:22.000 gonna be last to hire, but yeah, it's it's a 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:26.440 much easier road Toho in terms of figuring out who 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:28.880 your guy might be and going after him. So does 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:32.000 that make this a little longer of a process, because 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:34.640 you know, you're it's not quite as urgent. I don't know. 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:36.600 I mean, we're going to see how this plays out. 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:39.880 But there's still guys in the playoffs that I think 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:41.439 they want to talk to her, they are talking to 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:44.359 and the reality is is those guys don't get hired 0:17:44.400 --> 0:17:46.640 until after they're out of the playoffs, so you never 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:48.399 know exactly who they're looking at and how long it 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:50.680 might take. So Wolf before we're here from the Newton 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:52.639 GM and what he's looking for in a head coach, 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:55.359 do you do you think there's a certain type of 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:58.120 head coach they're in the market for right now, especially 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:02.399 after this past season. Yeah, Paulia, I do, and knowing 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:04.719 that there's been seven names out there, that have been 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:07.919 floated around. The two offensive guys Sean Payton of course, 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:12.520 and Frank Reich. They are the offensive guys. Five defensive 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:18.359 names right now of defensive coordinators. That's um, I really 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:21.119 really like. I like a lot of these guys, but 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:24.639 in particular, Brian Flores is a guy that gets my 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:29.320 attention right here. He is a tough, tough dude from 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:32.679 what I understand. And I'm talking about some guys that 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:37.080 I know very very well, some players that you would know. 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:39.160 I'm not going to use their name because I just 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:42.160 don't know if it's fair to them. But things that 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:46.119 these people have told me about Brian Flores, you know, 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:49.199 it makes me feel good. It makes me feel like 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:51.040 I know the guy a little bit more than I 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:53.960 know the other candidates. But when you look at it, 0:18:54.520 --> 0:18:58.160 and you you look at the names and the collection 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:03.240 of five defensive chords, I think it's because of that separation. 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:07.320 I think there's a real possibility that Monty and Michael 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:12.040 want to hire a guy that has that separation from 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:16.720 Kyler Murray, their franchise quarterback, where Cliff Kingsbury had a 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:21.480 very personal relationship with Kyler Murray and almost a peer 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:27.080 type relationship with Kyler Murray. I think it appears to 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:30.240 me the Cardinals may be moving away from that and 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:34.080 moving more towards the elpha in the room, being a 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:38.080 defensive minded head coach that has that built in separation 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:41.080 from their franchise quarterback. We'll get Darren's reaction to that, 0:19:41.119 --> 0:19:44.080 but first, here's here's the new GM MONTI asin Ford 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:46.240 he was asking what he's looking for in his next 0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:49.159 head coach. I think there's the specifics in terms of 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:53.120 leadership in developing players and coaches, in being a teacher 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:56.840 of fundamentals, details, and techniques. We're trying to build a 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:59.760 sustainable program here. This is not a short term fix. 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:03.000 So we want a coach that sees the big picture 0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:06.639 and understands that we're not happy with just the results 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:10.040 of twenty twenty three. We're building this for extended championship 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:11.840 teams as we move forwards. All right, So the two 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:15.080 offensive names once again, Sean Payton, frank Reich. Frank Rereich 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:18.680 reportedly has had his interview completed. And then the five 0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:21.800 defensive names that are out there, Niners defensive coordinator Demiko 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:26.160 Ryant's former Dolphins head coach Brian Flores, current Cardinals defensive 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:30.119 coordinator Ban's Joseph who interviewed this week. You have Detroit 0:20:30.320 --> 0:20:33.679 defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn who reportedly is going to get 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:37.439 an interview, and then Broncos defensive coordinator at Giro Varro, 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:40.680 And so those are the names. Do you think they're 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:43.000 more apt to go with a defensive guy because of 0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:46.840 that separation that Wolf sites. I think, I think that's 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:51.480 a fascinating kind of concept and I would I think 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:55.360 that that's a possibility. Yes, But again, to me, if 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:59.199 you're doing that, then you have to have set in 0:20:59.320 --> 0:21:02.760 stone when at the moment you're hiring this head coach, 0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:04.760 you got to know who your offensive coordinator is going 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:07.040 to be. To me, you I don't. I don't think 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:08.359 it's the thing where it's like I think I can 0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:11.399 get this guy. I think you got to know who 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:15.520 the guy is going to be guiding Kyler going right there? Yeah, 0:21:15.560 --> 0:21:18.479 I mean, yeah you could. These guys are always asked, 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:21.280 you know, what what kind of staff are you will 0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:25.880 you be putting together? Yea, And nothing's nothing's set in stone. Uh, 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:28.040 you know, there's always guys and it's happened over the 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:30.840 years where you might think, and there's been you know reports, 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:33.280 oh such and such is going to be this team's 0:21:33.359 --> 0:21:36.320 running backs coach or whatever after the head coach gets hired, 0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:39.119 and it never actually happens and for whatever reason it 0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:43.480 doesn't go through. But yeah, these guys have people in mind, um, 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:46.240 but things can always change, and so that to me, 0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:48.000 that's that's a big part of it. I mean, if 0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:50.639 if I'm a defensive coach, if I'm the Cardinals and 0:21:50.720 --> 0:21:54.080 I'm looking at a defensive head coach, that plan to 0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:56.200 what you're gonna do on the offense and with Kyler 0:21:56.280 --> 0:21:59.160 Murray has got to be almost that's almost as important 0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:02.480 to me as however you're going to handle this accountability stuff. 0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:05.679 For example, Brian Flores has a long standing relationship with 0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:09.040 Jim Caldwell. Yes, an offensive guy, so that that could 0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:12.359 be his answer. You can't tell me this is this 0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:14.320