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I'm ready. I'm one 11 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: hundred percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready. And Ron Wolflee. 12 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: It doesn't get any better than that, boy, unleash the far. 13 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: That's not just a chill in the air, gentleman, not 14 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: just that rare wind chill in the desert that you're feeling. No, 15 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: dare we say that's the winds of change blowing through 16 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: Arizona and Cardinals HQ. Let's see here if you've been 17 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: scoring at home, new GM check new head coach, TBA, 18 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: new identity and culture incoming tick talk. It is the 19 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: Big Red Rage, presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We 20 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: are santan Ford and as for we, Paul Calves here, 21 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: Ron Wolfley there, joined by Darren Urburn, Cardinals Insider AC 22 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot Com. Gentleman, how about it? The Big Red Rage, 23 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: the first of the monte Asinford era, as he is 24 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: the new GM and wolf You've been talking about it 25 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: all week and we'll get some top takeaways. But in 26 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: terms of maybe what you expected versus what transpired, how 27 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: would you assess that In the naming of Monty Ostenford. Yeah, 28 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: PAULA Man, I was pretty jacked up. I love his background, 29 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: absolutely love it. I love the teams that he's come 30 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: from and been associated with. Definitely wanted to hear more 31 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: of his personal beliefs on football of course and the 32 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: football universe, and I really liked it. If you're asking 33 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: me right now what my big takeaways were from this 34 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: press conference and meeting Monty Ostenford. Number one, there's a 35 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: new sheriff in town. That was that was number one ball. 36 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 1: There's a new sheriff in town, a number two. With 37 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: that is going to come a new culture as well, 38 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: and a new way of doing things, and I loved 39 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: what I was I was hearing smart, tough, disciplined, physical. 40 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: These are the things to me that I think the 41 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: new culture of the Arizona Cardinals will be going forward, 42 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: and it's very familiar to me, and I like that. 43 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: I would say my takeaways Paul the first couple, and 44 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 1: they're they're fairly specific. One we talk about where he's 45 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: from and the teams he's been around, which has been 46 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: the Titans the last three years and then mostly the Patriots, 47 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: and we all know what kind of histories that those 48 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: teams have in recent times, which are good ones. But 49 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: we also know that with Patriots Patriots people that have 50 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: come out and done this stuff, there's a mixed bag 51 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: sometimes on how it's worked out. And I loved how 52 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: he noted that he's going to take a little from 53 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: everywhere he's been. But one, you can't necessarily take one 54 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: thing from one building and transfer it to another building. 55 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: And I like that thought process because you don't want 56 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: him just to try and take the template, the Patriots 57 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: template or whatever template and just try and bring it 58 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: over here, because inevitably that doesn't work, because there's human 59 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: beings involved, and there's and and that can throw it off. 60 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: And I would say the other thing too is and 61 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: this is what I was most interested in. And I 62 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: know a lot of this will have to do with 63 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: what happens with the coach, But I asked a couple 64 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: of times about Kyler Murray and his role in terms 65 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: of the coach and how he was looking at things. 66 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: And yeah, it was his first press conference, and maybe 67 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: he just wanted to make sure we went in this direction, 68 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: but he brought it. He made it real broad, real fast. 69 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: Like he did not talk directly about Kyler Murray, even 70 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: on Kyler Murray questions. He made it about the team. 71 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: He made it about the you know, the team needing 72 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: a coach, a team that needed coaches that developed all 73 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,559 Speaker 1: players and a culture that you know, it's all about 74 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: the team. So I thought that was kind of interesting. Yes, 75 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: there was a press conference to start this week. It 76 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: was the new GM monte Asenford and the team owner 77 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: of Michael Bidwell, who was asked why monte Assenford. As 78 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: we went through the process and the whole process, it 79 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: became clear that monte Asenford had the combination of a 80 00:04:55,160 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: well defined vision, a work ethic character, the back around 81 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: an experience and being with two great organizations, the New 82 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: England Patriots as well as the Tennessee Titans, in evolving roles, 83 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: and it became apparent all of the combination of those 84 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: things that Monty was going to be the best fit 85 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: for us. And your point, Darren, somebody put out a 86 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: list general managers who once upon a time scouted for 87 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. Here you go, Scott Piola, the Chiefs, Thomas 88 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: Dimitrof of the Falcons, Jason Light of the Bucks. Also 89 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,799 Speaker 1: came through the Cardinals building, obviously, John Robinson of the Titans, 90 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: Bob Quinn of the Lions, Nick Casserio or the Texans, 91 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: Dave Ziggler or the Raiders, and now monte As and 92 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: Fort of the Cardinals. But like you, guys, I do 93 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 1: like the fact that he spent three years with the Titans. 94 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: I do like the fact that he got up there 95 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: and he said, you know what, I've taken bits and 96 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: pieces from other places. Wolf. I'm not trying to replicate 97 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: the Patriot away, because guess what, the Patriot wayte seemingly 98 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: only really truly works for Bill Belichick and Tom Brady. 99 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: Napoleon just nailed it right there, or I love what 100 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: you said because it's a great observation. You can't try 101 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: to be Bill Belichick. Don't try to be Bill Belichick. 102 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: And I think that's what a lot of guys do 103 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: that come from New England. What would Bill do? Is 104 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: what they ask? How should I react? What would Bill 105 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 1: think on this? What should I what should my answer 106 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: be on this quest? I honestly think he's got such 107 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: a great reputation, of course, being the greatest football coach 108 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: in the history of the game. In my opinion, so 109 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: many people when they leave there, they try to think 110 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: like Bill and b Bill as opposed to just being themselves. 111 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: It's a great observation and that really gets me jacked 112 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: up because I love the combination. I love the fact 113 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: that Monny was there for fifteen years. And I can 114 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: tell you guys from knowing Bill Belichick, smart, tough, discipline, 115 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: that's what he's looking for. And to your point, Paulie 116 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: about the Tennessee Titans physical, maybe the most physical team 117 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Good, bad or indifferent, They're 118 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: gonna knock your face off. And I like the fact 119 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: he was there for three years. Here's my other initial 120 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: takeaway and just based on what we saw and heard 121 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: and what we've heard about Montias and forties that he's 122 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: very detail oriented. Would that make sense if you spent 123 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: fifteen years in the Patriots organization and what was missing 124 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: all of last season seemingly And I'm talking based on 125 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: what the players told the media, what the coaches repeatedly cited, 126 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: what we heard and hard knocks. How many times did 127 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: we hear ratchet up the attention to detail. The little 128 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: things are big things in the NFL. They will cost 129 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: you games. And we saw the same things, the same 130 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: error as being repeated, this self inflicted stuff quote endquote 131 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: we kept hearing about. So you know what it does 132 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: get down to making sure you're making those sacrifices that 133 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: sometimes might not necessarily be in your own best interests, 134 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: but are in the best interests of the team. And 135 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: maniastin Ford, well, he was asked about that and here 136 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: was maybe the biggest quote that resonated. We're gonna look 137 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: for the right type of players. Ego will not be 138 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: tolerated in this organization. There's one goal here as to win. 139 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: There's no putting personal interests in front of the team. 140 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: I was told once the definition of mental toughness is 141 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: putting the team in front of something that maybe would 142 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: have been better personally for me. So that, to me 143 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: is the type of players that we're looking for. Ego 144 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: will not be tolerated. Darren, did you get more of 145 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: a response on your Twitter account to anything other than 146 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: that comment right there? That obviously got everybody's attention, And 147 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: I understand why, and Paul, you and I talked about 148 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: on our podcast this week. I mean, look, every player 149 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: has ego if they get to this level, every single one, 150 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: even Wolf had an ego. So the idea that no 151 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: ego will be tolerated is probably not realistic. But if 152 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: you're talking in context of not letting the ego get 153 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: in the way of what is best for the team, 154 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: that's something you can get to. And he actually got 155 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: to that later talking about how he was once told 156 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: mental toughness was about being able to do something for 157 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: the team when the opposite would be better for you 158 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: to do, And to me, that's a little bit more 159 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: of getting to where he was going. It was a 160 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: great SoundBite. Don't get me wrong, I know I used it, 161 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: but again, like I said, I think all these guys 162 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: have an ego at sun level, and the question is 163 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: being able to work with it going forward. Yeah. Well, 164 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: I heard an interview you did Real Quick with an 165 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: kon Bolden this week. Yeah, didn't he say, you know what, 166 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: I'd love to catch twenty catches a game, but there 167 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: were games where I had to go out there and 168 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: throw twenty blocks. Yes, see exactly, Polly, That's what I 169 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: was just gonna say right now. You know, I think 170 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people took that ego cut and kind 171 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: of ran with it right here when you could say 172 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: this right now, ego. I think it comes down to 173 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: the schemes. That's the cardinal I think are going to run. 174 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: This is what I believe it's it's Kyler Murray saying 175 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to go under center, and I'm going to 176 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: do that more Now. I'm not saying this is the 177 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: way it's going to be to me. When I heard 178 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: him say that, it was all scheme related. It's okay, 179 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go under center because that's where I need 180 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: to grow my game the most. Trey McBride, you know what, 181 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: I'm gonna line up and be the stud tight end. 182 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go ahead and be the move guy 183 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: all the time. I'm going to be a stud tight 184 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: end and I'm gonna work on my blocking because that's 185 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: what I need to do. They're not going to just 186 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: throw me the ball. I need to develop my game 187 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: and be more of a stud tight end, a y 188 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: tight end, than an h which is a move guy. 189 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons, Hey, listen, if I need to get better 190 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: in the box, they're gonna stick me in the box. 191 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: They're gonna ask me to play inside linebacker. I need 192 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: to get a whole lot more physical. I need to 193 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: accept it and embrace it. In other words, go out 194 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: of your comfort zone and start doing some things in 195 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: scheme that maybe you're not accustomed to or don't feel 196 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 1: comfortable with. Well, you know what, for the team, maybe 197 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: you have to learn how to do it. It's funny 198 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: when you say that, though, Wolf, because when you're talking 199 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: about scheme, we don't there's no coach, we don't know 200 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: what the scheme is. So when I hear the general 201 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: manager say it, it feels more big picture to me 202 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: then maybe what you would be doing on the field. Well, 203 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: I guess what. When I heard him say that, right there, 204 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: I thought general manager is going to hire a coach 205 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: and be involved in hiring a coach who's going to 206 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: think the same way he is. And I think that's 207 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: the reason why I made that connection. Well and the 208 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: person who hired the GM as the owner, Michael Bidwell, 209 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: and after getting input from players and doing a lot 210 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: of research on the season that was he had the 211 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: following to say, we need more accountability. And that is 212 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: something that Monty and I talked about and it's clear 213 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: that that's going to be an emphasis here and that's 214 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: what he just described as setting ego aside, and it's 215 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: all about accountability to the team. It's absolutely something our 216 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: players are interested in and that's exactly what Maniasenford is about. 217 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: And well, if that's about holding everyone to a similar standard, right, 218 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: I mean, they're going to be superstars, we get that. 219 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: But to Darren's point, it's when that ego starts changing 220 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: maybe a routine or maybe expecting different standards for you 221 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: versus the rest of the team, when he becomes detrimental 222 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: to the overall operation, that's when someone has to step in. Yeah, Paulis, 223 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: there's no doubt you also have to check yourself and 224 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: your ego at the door. When you walk in. I 225 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: understand that nobody's bigger than the team, and as long 226 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: as you use the same approach with everybody, it has 227 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: to apply to everybody inside that locker room, there can 228 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: be absolutely zero exceptions to it. And this is one 229 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: of the reasons why I said my big reaction to 230 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: Monty in his introduction to the world, so to speak, 231 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: was the fact that, man, he was looking at the 232 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: team and saying, basically, We're going to come in and 233 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: I'm going to be the sheriff and this is going 234 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: to change. Everything is going to change around here. Every 235 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: player is going to be pulled through a filter, a 236 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: culture filter, and nobody is going to be an exception 237 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: to that. I think that is the best way to 238 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: go because once again, once you start making exceptions, you 239 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: start to ruin that culture. And when you talk about approach, 240 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: somebody asked him about that. As a personnel guy, I 241 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: have a system that I believe in and that's where 242 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: we're going to focus our time and attention, and we 243 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: are going to use traditional scouting methods. We are going 244 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: to use analytical scouting methods, and we are going to 245 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: every step of the way check our work make sure 246 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: we're not missing something and continue to add competition to 247 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: this roster at every opportunity that we have during the 248 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: league year. And I tell you just my other takeaway 249 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: from that Press scomer. When he did start talking about 250 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: personnel and accumulating talent through the draft or making trades 251 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: a free agency, you could tell his comfort level. You 252 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: could tell that's his wheelhouse, and that's what his reputation 253 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: is as a real grinder who does all that sort 254 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: of work. And so you know, maybe over the past 255 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: few years, that attention to detail that we talk about, 256 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: maybe some of that needs to be reinstituted in the 257 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: player of evaluation process as well. Well. Obviously you wish 258 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: the Cardinals would have had more success in their drafts 259 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: over the past few years, and so you would think 260 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: something would need to at least be tweaked, if not 261 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: wholesale overhauled. And and so we're going to see exactly 262 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: what that means. It's going to be very interesting. And 263 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: they're gonna hold the third pick in every round that 264 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: they're picking in with their own choices, and that's a 265 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: that's a nice place to be. You hate being there, 266 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: and even many said, he goes, I hope we're never 267 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: picking number three overall ever again. But the last time 268 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: they picked number three, they got a pretty good player 269 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: and that worked out pretty well for them, So hopefully 270 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: that'll happen again. I think we all know that player 271 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: Goes still goes on a first name basis with the 272 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: State of Arizona. Larry Fitzgerald, that guy, by the way, Darren. 273 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: Speaking of history, the last time the Arizona Cardinals went 274 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: outside the organization hired an external candidate to be GM 275 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: just GM was when nineteen seventy three. Think about that, 276 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: I mean think we're talking fifty years since the Cardinals 277 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: went outside the building for an external GM just a GM. 278 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: Obviously Buddy Ryan was. So the question is now who 279 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: is going to be the head coach? And there are 280 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: plenty of names that are out there, and there are 281 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: plenty of names have already interviewed and reportedly are going 282 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: to get interviews. So we'll get to the bottom of that. 283 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: What sort of head coach are they looking for? Is 284 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: there a formula? What is the best fit? We continue 285 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: Paul lvc ron Wolfie, Darren Urban. It's a big red 286 00:15:52,880 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. I look forward 287 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: to working alongside Michael, and as he mentioned, a big 288 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: step in that is finding our new head coach, and 289 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: together with Michael and myself and the new head coach 290 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: and everyone else in this organization, we're going to strive 291 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: to find a collaborative environment where we are completely aligned 292 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: in the football structure that we're going to put before 293 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: this organization. Arizona Cardinals making their list checking a twice. 294 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: Let there be head coaching interviews, fast and furious all 295 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: week long, reportedly will continue into the weekend. We'll see 296 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: what sort of timetable they have acted quickly on a GM, 297 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: honestly quicker than I thought they'd arrived at higher. That 298 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: is the new GM, monti As and Ford from the 299 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: Titans before that the Patriots. It's the Big Red Rage 300 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. We are Santan Ford, 301 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley, Darren Urban And you made a 302 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: good point. We were talking about how there's not nearly 303 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: as many head coaching openings this year as say last year, 304 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: when there were ten there were ten head coach Now 305 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: we've got half that many, and that might actually work 306 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: to the Cardinals benefit here. I think it does because 307 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: You're just there's there's a smaller pool of teams that 308 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: need guys, So the pool of potential candidates, there's only 309 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: so many guys that could be off the board even 310 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: if you were last. I'm not saying the Cardinals are 311 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: gonna be last to hire, but yeah, it's it's a 312 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: much easier road Toho in terms of figuring out who 313 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: your guy might be and going after him. So does 314 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: that make this a little longer of a process, because 315 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 1: you know, you're it's not quite as urgent. I don't know. 316 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: I mean, we're going to see how this plays out. 317 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: But there's still guys in the playoffs that I think 318 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: they want to talk to her, they are talking to 319 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: and the reality is is those guys don't get hired 320 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: until after they're out of the playoffs, so you never 321 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: know exactly who they're looking at and how long it 322 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: might take. So Wolf before we're here from the Newton 323 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: GM and what he's looking for in a head coach, 324 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: do you do you think there's a certain type of 325 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: head coach they're in the market for right now, especially 326 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: after this past season. Yeah, Paulia, I do, and knowing 327 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,719 Speaker 1: that there's been seven names out there, that have been 328 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,919 Speaker 1: floated around. The two offensive guys Sean Payton of course, 329 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: and Frank Reich. They are the offensive guys. Five defensive 330 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: names right now of defensive coordinators. That's um, I really 331 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: really like. I like a lot of these guys, but 332 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: in particular, Brian Flores is a guy that gets my 333 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: attention right here. He is a tough, tough dude from 334 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: what I understand. And I'm talking about some guys that 335 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: I know very very well, some players that you would know. 336 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: I'm not going to use their name because I just 337 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: don't know if it's fair to them. But things that 338 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: these people have told me about Brian Flores, you know, 339 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: it makes me feel good. It makes me feel like 340 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: I know the guy a little bit more than I 341 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: know the other candidates. But when you look at it, 342 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: and you you look at the names and the collection 343 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: of five defensive chords, I think it's because of that separation. 344 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: I think there's a real possibility that Monty and Michael 345 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: want to hire a guy that has that separation from 346 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, their franchise quarterback, where Cliff Kingsbury had a 347 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: very personal relationship with Kyler Murray and almost a peer 348 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: type relationship with Kyler Murray. I think it appears to 349 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: me the Cardinals may be moving away from that and 350 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: moving more towards the elpha in the room, being a 351 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: defensive minded head coach that has that built in separation 352 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: from their franchise quarterback. We'll get Darren's reaction to that, 353 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: but first, here's here's the new GM MONTI asin Ford 354 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: he was asking what he's looking for in his next 355 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: head coach. I think there's the specifics in terms of 356 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: leadership in developing players and coaches, in being a teacher 357 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: of fundamentals, details, and techniques. We're trying to build a 358 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: sustainable program here. This is not a short term fix. 359 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: So we want a coach that sees the big picture 360 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: and understands that we're not happy with just the results 361 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty three. We're building this for extended championship 362 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: teams as we move forwards. All right, So the two 363 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: offensive names once again, Sean Payton, frank Reich. Frank Rereich 364 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: reportedly has had his interview completed. And then the five 365 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: defensive names that are out there, Niners defensive coordinator Demiko 366 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: Ryant's former Dolphins head coach Brian Flores, current Cardinals defensive 367 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: coordinator Ban's Joseph who interviewed this week. You have Detroit 368 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn who reportedly is going to get 369 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: an interview, and then Broncos defensive coordinator at Giro Varro, 370 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: And so those are the names. Do you think they're 371 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: more apt to go with a defensive guy because of 372 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: that separation that Wolf sites. I think, I think that's 373 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: a fascinating kind of concept and I would I think 374 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 1: that that's a possibility. Yes, But again, to me, if 375 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 1: you're doing that, then you have to have set in 376 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: stone when at the moment you're hiring this head coach, 377 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: you got to know who your offensive coordinator is going 378 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: to be. To me, you I don't. I don't think 379 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: it's the thing where it's like I think I can 380 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: get this guy. I think you got to know who 381 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: the guy is going to be guiding Kyler going right there? Yeah, 382 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,479 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah you could. These guys are always asked, 383 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: you know, what what kind of staff are you will 384 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: you be putting together? Yea, And nothing's nothing's set in stone. Uh, 385 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, there's always guys and it's happened over the 386 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: years where you might think, and there's been you know reports, 387 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: oh such and such is going to be this team's 388 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: running backs coach or whatever after the head coach gets hired, 389 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: and it never actually happens and for whatever reason it 390 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: doesn't go through. But yeah, these guys have people in mind, um, 391 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: but things can always change, and so that to me, 392 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: that's that's a big part of it. I mean, if 393 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: if I'm a defensive coach, if I'm the Cardinals and 394 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm looking at a defensive head coach, that plan to 395 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: what you're gonna do on the offense and with Kyler 396 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: Murray has got to be almost that's almost as important 397 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: to me as however you're going to handle this accountability stuff. 398 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: For example, Brian Flores has a long standing relationship with 399 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: Jim Caldwell. Yes, an offensive guy, so that that could 400 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: be his answer. You can't tell me this is this 401 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: is just me thinking out loud. You can't tell me that. 402 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: During the course of the Frank Reich interview, they said, 403 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: you know what, Frank, if you don't get the head 404 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: coaching gig, how would you feel about being an offensive 405 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 1: coordinator for Vance Joseph Possible? I mean, Mike McCoy wants 406 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: upon a time interviewed for the Cardinals head coaching gig 407 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: and went to Steve Wilkes, and then Mike McCoy end 408 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: up the offensive coordinator rights, And that's all true. And 409 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: the Caldwell things interesting because he's interviewed here before. Yeah, 410 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: when I believe it was the Wilkes cycle. Yes, he 411 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: interviewed with the head coach, so Michael Bidwell knows him. Yes. Indeed, 412 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: how about the fact Wolf that some of these guys 413 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: are former head coaches. The last two hires, Cliff Kingsbury 414 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 1: and Steve Wilkes were first time NFL head coaches, whereas 415 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: you have someone with the Brian Flores who has a 416 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: track record, Vance Joseph who had a couple of years 417 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: with the Broncos. They actually were head coaches on the job. 418 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: Go ahead, Yeah, No, I think that actually gives them 419 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: an advantage in this. I just kind of feel like, 420 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: you know, again, I'm not trying to read Michael's mind. 421 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: I do not know. I have not talked to him 422 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: at all. Right, he's not He's kind of playing this 423 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: close to the vest right now. But um, yeah, you know, 424 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: it appears as though I would really look at the 425 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: experience that is there so much of the time. We 426 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: all know this. You know, when you have somebody and 427 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 1: you have a breakup, you kind of go the opposite 428 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: direction of the person you actually had the break up with. 429 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: Whether it's a business relationship that you have or it's 430 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: a personal relationship, whatever it is, you kind of go 431 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: the opposite direction. And it's one of the reasons why 432 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: I find it interesting that there's as many defensive coordinators 433 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: that are out there and being interviewed right now. But 434 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: never forget this, guys. It's so important many Austin Ford 435 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: and Michael they can sit there and talk all they 436 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: want on about culture and the culture change and how 437 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. And that's where it starts, guys. It 438 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: starts with words, it starts with a thought, it starts 439 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: with a belief philosophy, That's where it starts. But the 440 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: head guy that's gonna be the guy that implements it 441 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: on a tactical level, that's gonna be the guy that 442 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: makes it happen. So I stepped on you there, wolf Um. 443 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: It's funny that you bring up the idea that these 444 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: guys are, you know, have done it before. Cardinals don't 445 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: do that. Cliff Kingsbury, Bruce Arians, Steve Wilkes, Ken, Wizon Hunt, 446 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: who is before Hunt? Deny Oh, Denny Green, Danny Green 447 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: would be the last one that Buddy Ryan And yeah, 448 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: but but the last time, in particular, Bruce Arians at 449 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 1: least was NFL Coach of the Year as an interim 450 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: guy for most of that season in example, I will 451 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: I'll give you that one. And there was still he 452 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: was like way late in the process and nobody was 453 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: going to hire him. But once again, though derps stopp Yeah, 454 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I see a split that has happened here 455 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: from what the Cardinals have always done, started with Monte 456 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: Assin Fort. To your point of a when was the 457 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: last time we actually hired a GM out with the 458 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy what um you know? So to me, maybe 459 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: this is signaling a change in that direction. It was 460 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three. Wolf, you were wearing your O. J. 461 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: Simpson onesie pajamas up there in Buffalo. That's what I 462 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: was going on. Not at all all right, Darren. We 463 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: appreciate the insight in the knowledge is keeping Wolf account 464 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,479 Speaker 1: We need accountability in the big red rage you bring it. 465 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: That's what we enjoying it? All right, see a wolf? 466 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: Thank you? You know what else you enjoy Episode fifty 467 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: five of The Day Pash Podcast featuring actor and comedian 468 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: Extraordinary Frank Caliendo, now available every year podcasts and via 469 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: Twitter at pashpod. All Right, what does this all mean 470 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: for Kyler Murray? That is next on The Big Red Rage, 471 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: brought to you by Santan Ford in Gilbert. We're looking 472 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: for a head coach that can lead this entire organization. 473 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: We're looking for a head coach that can develop all 474 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: the players, and Kyler being a big part of that. 475 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: We want the right coach. Whether that's an offensive coach 476 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: or a defensive coach, frankly doesn't matter. We want the 477 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: best coach when we have a plan for what we 478 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: are going to be as an organization. We're going to 479 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: develop our players and we're going to put him in 480 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: the best position to make us successful and ultimately win. 481 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: It's one of the new voices of leadership for the 482 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. Brand new general manager Montias and Ford, meeting 483 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: the media this week, asked about Kyler Murray and what 484 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: it means for the franchise quarterback going forward. Whenever your 485 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: returns in the twenty twenty three season coming off the season, 486 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: any knee injury and surgery here to start the offseason, 487 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: it's the Arizona Cardinals Big Red Rage presented by Santan 488 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: Ford and Gilbert Paul kelvc Ron, Wolfley and Wolf. Look, 489 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: it's a fair question about Kyler a because we know 490 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: that Cliff Kingsbury was hired a large part to be 491 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: a combo with Kyler Murray. I still think it's one 492 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 1: of the big reasons he got the contract extension, because 493 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: if you're going to extend Kyler Murray, you were going 494 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: to extend Cliff Kingsbury as they were appearing. And then 495 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,199 Speaker 1: at the same time, you go back to when the 496 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 1: Cardinals did hire Cliff Kingsbury, and the method behind that hiring, 497 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: at least as explained by the decision makers at the time, 498 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: was if you hire the next hot offensive coordinator, he's 499 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: going to last one year because another team will gobble 500 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: him up to be their head coach. But now there 501 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: seems to be, as you have pointed out, a different 502 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: approach this time around, just based on the fact five 503 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: of the seven reported candidates are defensive guys. So once 504 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: again going back to the critical question for any of 505 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: those candidates, they better have an answer when it comes 506 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: to the quarterback and the offense. Yeah, Paul, you have to. 507 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,239 Speaker 1: I'm looking at this right now, and again I'm not 508 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: saying this is the way that it is. I'm just 509 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: saying for me, Paul, when I look at this job 510 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: one for Anny coach is to fix Kyler Murray. And 511 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: when I say that, I don't mean that Kyler Murray's broken, 512 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: just mean that I think even Kyler would admit he 513 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: took a step back this year from the first three 514 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 1: years that we saw him develop when he was a rookie. 515 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: There's no denying the fact he came in and men, 516 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: we could all see the talent, but he got better 517 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: from his rookie year to year two. He got better 518 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: from year two to year three. And then of course 519 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: we know the results that the team experienced at that 520 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 1: point in time as well. Yes, they had two seasons 521 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: in a row where they collapsed in the second half, 522 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: but they did make it to the playoffs that third 523 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: year right there, and even though that game did not 524 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: go well, we all understand there was advancement five wins 525 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: to eight wins to eleven wins in a playoff appearance. 526 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: It looked as though everything was on track to continue 527 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: to get better to me at least, and then all 528 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: of a sudden Year four and he took a step back. 529 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: So the first thing that needs to happen is for accountability, 530 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: and that is Kyler Murray saying, I need to get better. 531 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: I need to have evolve my game. And that's what 532 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: the new head coach is going to have to do. 533 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: I think you've got the new GM. He's got to 534 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: hire a head coach who feels the way he does. 535 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: And Kyler Murray also that three headed monster right there. 536 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: The GM, the head coach, and of course your franchise quarterback. 537 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: They all have to be on the same page as 538 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: to what Kyler needs to do to get better. And 539 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: Kyler's got to embrace it. When the Cardinals were seven 540 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: and oh, just start the twenty twenty one season. Last season, 541 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,959 Speaker 1: he was a legitimate MVP candidate. Yes, fact, there's no 542 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: arguing it. He goes and the season opener was at 543 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: Tennessee and monte Asenford had a front row seat for 544 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: what Kyler is capable of. He accounted for five touchdowns 545 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 1: that day, and it's probably one of the reasons. When 546 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: Monty was asked specifically about Kyler Murray, here's what the 547 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: new GM had to say. Kyler's got to get healthy, 548 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: and we want to do everything in our power to 549 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: help him get healthy. We want to see him out 550 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: on the field. I've seen what a healthy Kyler can do. 551 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: I did a lot of work on Tyler coming out 552 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: of Oklahoma. I know that he is extremely talented with 553 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: both his legs and his arm, and so, yeah, that 554 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: does represent a challenge for us. We'll be ready for it. 555 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: But the first order of business is getting Kyler healthy 556 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: and helping him in whatever manner that is possible. It's 557 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: also a matter of identifying what was the problem this year. Yeah, 558 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: I think before you can correct a problem, you have 559 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: to identify it. And we've talked about this in the 560 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: Big Red Rage Wolf that in twenty twenty one, Kyler 561 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: led all quarterbacks in that Devoa deep throw categories sixteen 562 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: plus airy yards and he was number one in deep 563 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: ball accuracy. When he got hurt this year and he 564 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: was done for the season, he was dead last. So 565 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: you can quibble with some of those numbers, but to 566 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 1: go from the top of the rankings to the bottom. Yeah, 567 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: obviously something was amiss, and so can they figure that out, 568 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: both the GM and the new coaching staff and get 569 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: him corrected. Yeah, PAULI can I just say right now, 570 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: that's a couple of things on this because so much 571 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: of deep throws throwing the wall down the field off 572 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: a play action, Paul, So much of that happens. And 573 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: because of that, that's where the best kind of play 574 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: action where you can take shots down the field comes 575 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: from a quarterback being under center. It does because you're 576 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: you're up on the line of scrimmage, you snap the 577 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: ball and you're running to that mesh point where a 578 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: running back is coming up. And man, those second level 579 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: backers they got to sit there and they got to 580 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: honor that. In a lot of time, safeties will bite 581 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: on that action as well, and all of a sudden, 582 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: a seven step play action, you're chucking the ball down 583 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: the field. But the other thing about that, Paul, Yes, 584 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: schematically that is the truth about throwing the ball down 585 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: the field with with that play action. But you better 586 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: have an offensive line that can hold up as well. 587 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: And we all know what happened to the offensive line 588 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: this year for the Arizona Cardinals. And I think that 589 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: also contributed to a lot, because you've got to have 590 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: guys who can hold up and pass protect while you're 591 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: play acting. Yeah, you had ten different starting offensive line combinations. 592 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: It was Yes, it was a constant moving target up front. 593 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. Here's Manias and Ford on 594 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: what he learned during his fifteen years with the Patriots. 595 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: Every day going to work was a masterclass education of 596 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: how to build a football roster and how to build 597 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 1: a winning organization. There are core beliefs that I believe 598 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: that I will take from there, as I will take 599 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: from every step along my way that I planned to 600 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: bring here and put my own spin on it and 601 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: make it the Cardinal way. So Wolf, when we have 602 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: a chance to talk to Manias and Ford in depth, 603 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: we're going to ask him about the line of scrimmage, 604 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: your favorite topic, right, Jim mo'mandro and myself, we did 605 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: a little research. We went back through the last fifteen 606 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: drafts for the Arizona Cardinals. How many offensive lineman do 607 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: you think the Cardinals have drafted in Round one or 608 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: round two over the last fifteen drafts, going back through 609 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, two. You're right, j DJ Humphreys 610 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, Jonathan Cooper in twenty thirteen. Of course 611 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: he was heard in the third preseason game. Was number 612 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: never the same? Now Levi Brown was oh seven, that 613 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: would be years sixteen. But think about that. Wow, only 614 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: two offensive linemen around one or round two in the 615 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: past fifteen drafts. Now, how many defensive linemen do you 616 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: think I've been drafted? We're talking interior d lineman in 617 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: round one or round two in the past fifteen drafts. Okay, 618 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: let's not get Kuki here. I'm gonna say one three, Okay, 619 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: although although really they only got return on investment out 620 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: of one, so in some ways you're right. Two thousand 621 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: and sixteen, Robert Candici. But that was twenty ninth overall, 622 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: two ten, Dan the Can, Dan Williams, and nose tackle 623 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: twenty six overall two thousand and eight, round two, Klais Campbell. 624 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, round two, okay. So in the trenches there 625 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: has not been that investment of draft capital, at least 626 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: near the top of the draft. Paulie. It's the line 627 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 1: of scrimmage man on both sides, the ball right to 628 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: the offensive line, the defensive line that's where the major 629 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: rebuild has got to happen. As far as I'm concerned, 630 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: I think you're saying the same thing. Yep. I just 631 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: think Manias and Ford and company. They're gonna come in 632 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: and they're gonna see that. Yeah, And I think that's 633 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: where they start. That's just my gut feeling. Besides, you 634 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: have a lot of weapons on this team. You have 635 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: a lot of skill players on this team. You've obviously 636 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,479 Speaker 1: invested the last couple of drafts in inside linebackers. So 637 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: I just think if the first three picks are offensive line, 638 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: defensive line, offensive line, again, I would not be shocked. Hey, 639 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: joined the season ticket priority lists, by the way, and 640 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,239 Speaker 1: select your seats before the general public. Twenty twenty three 641 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: opponents include the Seahawks, Niners, and Rams, plus the Giants, Cowboys, Ravens, Falcons, 642 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: and Bengals all visit State Farm Stadium. It's loaded the 643 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: home schedule. Go to Acy cardinals dot com slash priority 644 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: list for more info. We'll talk NFL playoffs next. Than 645 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert 646 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: thirty six yard from the right hash to win the game, 647 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: Logan Cooco put it down Riley Patterson, Cook puts it down, 648 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 1: Patterson kick it up. The field goal is good, good, good. 649 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: But Jaguars have wanted. But Jaguars have wanted. They have 650 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: come back from twenty seven nothing to win the game 651 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 1: and move on. How good is that? That's what I'm 652 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: talking about. How about that? And Jaguars Radio as he 653 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: had Frank Brangie and Tony Boselli with a game when 654 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: he called, how improbable was that? I mean that was 655 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 1: like epic. That was historic. Not to mention Jacksonville became 656 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: the first team in the NFL to win a playoff 657 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 1: game after finishing the year before with the worst record 658 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: in the league. Think about that. It's the Big Red 659 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are satan Ford, 660 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 1: Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley. And you know what, You look 661 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: at some of these some of these reclamation projects, if 662 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: you will, the New York Giants, the Jacksonville Jaguars and 663 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: what they did from one season to the next, and 664 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: you realize that five of the ten teams that hired 665 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: new head coaches last year wolf made the playoffs. So 666 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: if you get it right, you can get into the 667 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: postseason one season to the next. Yeah, no, you're right 668 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: about that, Paulli. But man, is I listen to you 669 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: play that cut right there? All I can think of 670 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 1: two things, man, that's Brandon Staley. Brandon Staley and the 671 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: Chargers ran the ball six times in the second half, Paul, 672 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: six times, ouch, And they had a twenty point lead. 673 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: And that's all they did is run the ball six times. 674 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. By way of example, the Dallas Cowboys, 675 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 1: they had an eighteen point lead at half over the 676 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They came out the first ten plays 677 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 1: they ran of the second half, they ran the ball 678 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: six times, even though even though they weren't running the 679 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: ball effectively in the first half, they came out and said, man, 680 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna go ahead and try to shorten this game 681 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: right now because we got a really big lead. That's 682 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:09,240 Speaker 1: number one takeaway, and number two is just Trevor Lawrence, Paul, 683 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: are you kidding me? How does that happen? How do 684 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 1: you go out and throw three picks in the first quarter, 685 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: four in the first half. In somehow, some way you 686 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 1: overcome yourself and all that doubt and all of that 687 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 1: disbelief to go out and light it up the way 688 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: that he didn't bring his team back. Oh, Paulie, you 689 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: have to ask Trevor Lawrence, what do you becoming? And 690 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: now they get the Kansas City Chiefs Patrick Mahomes in 691 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: his career four and oh in the division round to 692 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: the playoffs, and in nine home playoff games, Mahomes has 693 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,399 Speaker 1: twenty six touchdown passes in three picks. So we'll see 694 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 1: how Jacksonville fairs on Saturday. You brought up the Niners 695 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: and Cowboys. This will be their ninth all time playoff meeting. 696 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: Brock Purty six and oh as a starter right down 697 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 1: the stretch. I mean, but then you look at that 698 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 1: Niners defense and Wolf. It's hard for me to tell 699 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: about Dallas because Tampa was so bad that I have 700 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: a hard time gauging how good is Dallas, How legit 701 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: is Dallas. Now Michael Parsons was legit. Yeah, the sack 702 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: and eight quarterback pressures, right, and Nick Bosa obviously NFL 703 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year most likely what comes to 704 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: mind when you think about Niners and Cowboys. That's it 705 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: right there. I think of that defense. I think the 706 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine Ers defense actually going against Dak Prescott. 707 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: That to me is the matchup of the game right now, 708 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 1: because that defense is so lights out and Dak Prescott 709 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: played very very well, but we know from time to 710 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: time he's been up and down and going out and 711 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 1: lighting up the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and their defense is 712 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: not like going out and lighting up the San Francisco 713 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:54,320 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers defense. That would be all together different. 714 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: So yes, I think of brock Purty immediately, But because 715 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: of the strip of the forty nine Ers, poly, I 716 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: just I don't see the Dallas Cowboys pulling the upside here. Yeah, 717 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: the Niners d has allowed the fewest points in the NFL. 718 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 1: The Niners have also won eleven in a row going 719 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: back to the end of the regular season. All right, 720 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: how about the Bengals at your Buffalo Bills. Bengals of 721 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: one nine in a row. The Bills have won eight 722 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: in a row, and then Josh Allen against Joe Burrow 723 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,879 Speaker 1: size that one up for us, Polly, all I can 724 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,439 Speaker 1: think of is tomorrow, Hamlin, Right, that's what you think 725 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 1: of immediately here. It's just the fact that it was 726 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 1: Week eighteen. It was the final game that we're gonna 727 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: play and it was gonna be these two teams, and 728 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: yet here it is again, and Buffalo seems to be 729 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: this team of destiny. Somehow, some way, the Miami Dolphins 730 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: were hanging in that game in Orchard Park last week, 731 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: and again they lost three games to the Buffalo Bills 732 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 1: by nine points. Totally. You've got to be kidding me. 733 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: I didn't know and tested it was all season long, 734 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: and now in this matchup right here, you've got Joe Burrow. 735 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow has all the intangibles, and yet you've got 736 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, who's got all the tangibles. He is an walking, 737 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 1: talking stud. He's big, He's got everything you could possibly 738 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: want in a franchise quarterback. He runs the ball, Josh 739 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 1: Allen with conviction. He runs the ball, not like a 740 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: quarterback runs the ball. He runs the ball like George 741 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 1: Kittle runs the ball. It's unbelievable. And yet he's a 742 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: great team leader. He checks every box. And yet Joe 743 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: Burrow has got this swag, and it's this swag that 744 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: inspires his teammates around him. Josh Allen has a much 745 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:55,879 Speaker 1: better supporting cast than Joe Burrow has in Cincinnati. Yet 746 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: I'm not counting out the Bengals in this game at all. 747 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be an awesome game. The Bills 748 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: secondary is banged up, Cincinnati deep with receivers obviously, you know, 749 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 1: although that Cincinnati offensive line is going to be missing 750 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,800 Speaker 1: three starters, so we'll see if they can protect Joe Burrow. 751 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 1: Although what he gots sacked like eleven times in a 752 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: playoff game last year and they still won. All right, 753 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,280 Speaker 1: Then the Giants at Philly, and we know what happened 754 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: in the season Vanale. Philly actually struggled a little bit, 755 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: even though the Giants weren't playing all their guys, and man, 756 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,760 Speaker 1: the Giants look good and that win against the Vikings. 757 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: How about how about Daniel Jones running at seventeen times? 758 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 1: You talk about a quarterback running at Daniel Jones. What 759 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,840 Speaker 1: was going on there? Yeah, but Daniel Jones, Brian Dabo, 760 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:41,280 Speaker 1: what was going on there? Daniel Jones has developed so much, 761 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,280 Speaker 1: He's doing so well, and you can just see the confidence. 762 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 1: You hear me say this all the time that confidence 763 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,320 Speaker 1: is the currency of competition. You buy and sell performances 764 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: based on your confidence level. And Daniel Jones's confidence is growing. 765 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: But I think I honestly think that Giants are going 766 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: to upset the Philadelphia Eagles, really, and the reason why 767 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: I say that is the one weakness I remember all 768 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 1: the way back to when the Arizona Cardinals played the 769 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 1: Eagles early in the season last year, the one weakness 770 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,720 Speaker 1: they had was running the ball, especially in a north 771 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: south direction at them. That was the only weakness I 772 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:25,359 Speaker 1: saw on this team. Everything else was pretty lockdown, lights out, 773 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 1: including Jalen Hurts and how he was playing. I'm not 774 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 1: saying that still won't be the case. I think Jalen 775 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 1: Hurts in the offenses is excellent. But having said that, 776 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: say Quon Barkley Man and Daniel Jones the way that 777 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,720 Speaker 1: he's playing right now, run the ball, attack the Eagles 778 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 1: front seven in a north south kind of way. That's 779 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: something the Giants do well. This could be an upset. 780 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: That's my upset of the weekend because Wolf, if you 781 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,640 Speaker 1: get into second and long third and long obvious passing 782 00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: situations at Eagles defense had seventy sacks. Yep four players 783 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: with ten or more sacks on the year. That's all 784 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: the more reason Polly, I think They're gonna go ahead 785 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: and try to run the ball. And by the way, 786 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,240 Speaker 1: maybe the best matchup of the playoffs might be Dexter 787 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,880 Speaker 1: Lawrence the nose tackle for the Giants, going against a 788 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 1: fellow All Pro and Eagles center Jason Kelsey. I mean, 789 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,760 Speaker 1: they ought to have sort of a picture and picture 790 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,920 Speaker 1: of those two guys going after his Dexter Lawrence. He 791 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 1: might have been the best player on the field despite 792 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 1: everything that Daniel Jones did, I mean, especially at the 793 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 1: end there, he ended up pretty much winning that game 794 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: for the Giants getting pressure on Kirk Cousins. Polly, that 795 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 1: is a great observation by you, so right on its 796 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 1: spot on. Yet at the same time, you talk to 797 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 1: guys offensive lineman, former offensive lineman. You talk to some 798 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: of these older guys, they wash, they watch at Jason 799 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:50,879 Speaker 1: Kelsey and they actually talk about him with reverence as 800 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,919 Speaker 1: to how good he is as a center. They it's 801 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 1: really kind of cool. Both my brothers older of course, 802 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 1: Craig twelve years with the Pittsburgh Steelers, younger Dale, you 803 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: know him. Both they love Jason Kelsey, but also Max Starks. 804 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 1: If you talk to Max, you know, all these former 805 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 1: offensive linemen, they they speak of Jason Kelsey with reference. 806 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 1: I still love the story that Nick Sirianni told him. 807 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 1: The start of training camp. They asked him, how did 808 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: you convinced Jason Kelsey to forget about retirement? He said, well, 809 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 1: I called him up, I kind of get a gauge 810 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: where he was at. I sent him a couple of 811 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 1: kegs of his favorite beer. He called me back that 812 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: night and said, okay, coach, I'll come back and play 813 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 1: another season four him. That's an all time story right there. 814 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: That's awesome. But I tell you, I watch him, and 815 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 1: I watch your dexter Lawrence, and it's just further proof. 816 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 1: If the Cardinals go with, oh, I don't know, a 817 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,240 Speaker 1: Jalen Carter or maybe top around two, the top center 818 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 1: in the draft, I would have or Will Anderson Yep, 819 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: no doubt. Just look at Nick bosa Hey special thanks 820 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 1: to Darren Urban for joining us, Executive producer Jim Almahandro, 821 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 1: technical director Cody Fincher Rond hopefully on Paul CALVC. This 822 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: has been the Big Red Rage presented by Santanford in 823 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 1: Gilbert where the Cardinals have the GM. 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