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Speaker 1: Tony BISSELLI get his thoughts on what adjustments could have
Speaker 1: been made by the Kansas City Chiefs during the game.
Speaker 1: Also Russell Wilson, he'll join us. Does russ one out
Speaker 1: of Seattle? Are they entertaining trade talks with Russell Wilson?
Speaker 1: He's gonna join us coming up. And Nick Wright, actually
Speaker 1: Nick Wrong, formerly Nick Wright, the Fox Sports Fox Sports one,
Speaker 1: who told me the Kansas City Chiefs bet on it
Speaker 1: we're gonna win by at least sixteen points. So Nick
Speaker 1: Wrong will join us coming up in the final hour
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Speaker 1: up a little bit yesterday. Yes point on our marquee
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Speaker 1: when he joins us. Nick Wrong. Now that Super Bowl
Speaker 1: fifty five is over, the NFL season wrapped up and
Speaker 1: it's time for the sports wield to transition into something
Speaker 1: completely different. Right, happens every year at this time. Instead
Speaker 1: of shows talking about the NFL season every day, get
Speaker 1: ready for them to shift over to the NFL offseason
Speaker 1: every day. That's right. If you don't like football, there's
Speaker 1: no break in sight. And it happens to be one
Speaker 1: of the juicier hot stove periods in a long time.
Speaker 1: When you think about the trade market, I don't know
Speaker 1: if we've had a trade market like this because normally
Speaker 1: you don't have trades in the NFL. We already had
Speaker 1: one Matthew Stafford for Jared Goff. You got Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: in the on deck circle. Could Sam Darnold be traded?
Speaker 1: Just Shaun Watson? Could he be traded? Draft coverage will
Speaker 1: also pick up in the coming days, and even more
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to talk about. The second that Tom Brady took
Speaker 1: that knee to close out the Super Bowl, the next
Speaker 1: season began for every team in the league, and we
Speaker 1: move on fast these days, opening kickoffs only seven months away.
Speaker 1: Like it or not, the football chatter is just starting.
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of talk about the quarterbacks. With
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is he going to get traded. And I
Speaker 1: had somebody tell me yesterday that, you know, the Eagles
Speaker 1: had been holding out for at least two first round
Speaker 1: draft picks, maybe another player, that the price tag was
Speaker 1: too high, and that the Bears and Colts probably waiting
Speaker 1: for the Eagles to come back to reality. Also, there
Speaker 1: was a conversation chatter about did the NFL say to
Speaker 1: the teams, do not make any trade Saturday or Sunday
Speaker 1: or Monday. And you're starting to hear that maybe things
Speaker 1: could heat up in Carson Wentz could be traded this week.
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson might be issuing a statement later today on
Speaker 1: his situation with the Texans. So it feels like it's
Speaker 1: fluid right now with something happening. The question is what
Speaker 1: is going to happen. Also, Paulie and I were discussing
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and looking back at the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: it was on last night. NFL Network had it, and
Speaker 1: if you knew the plays, what would be great? And
Speaker 1: you can't do it. But if you had the offensive
Speaker 1: coordinators or you had a defensive coordinator an offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: Let's say you had Eric b Enemy and you had
Speaker 1: Todd Bowls and they sat down to discuss this is
Speaker 1: what the play was, and this is what we thought
Speaker 1: it was, or this is how we decided to counteract
Speaker 1: what you were doing. Because as I'm watching the game again,
Speaker 1: it became so apparent Kansas City could have run the football.
Speaker 1: I thought, if you don't have a great offensive line
Speaker 1: as far as pass blocking, why don't I take advantage?
Speaker 1: Why don't I run the ball a little bit more?
Speaker 1: And if you're averaging six yards per carry, maybe you
Speaker 1: don't think it's sustainable, but it's been sustainable before during
Speaker 1: the season. Why didn't you take advantage of that. I
Speaker 1: still think Patrick Mahomes held on the football too long
Speaker 1: because he was trying to make a big play. But
Speaker 1: everything's coming up the middle, so Patrick Mahomes could never
Speaker 1: step into the pocket cleanly. Why not? And it just
Speaker 1: didn't feel like there were any adjustments made by the
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs. It's almost as if, Hey, this is
Speaker 1: how we do it. We're the best offense in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and try to stop us. Well they did, they were,
Speaker 1: and that's where I didn't think that there were any
Speaker 1: adjustments there. And now do I think Tampa was still
Speaker 1: going to win? Yes, But you know, you had fifteen
Speaker 1: twenty minutes at halftime to adjust, and you know the
Speaker 1: part of the problem is that you have what are
Speaker 1: we adjusting or are we willing to adjust? And you're
Speaker 1: down twenty one to three after the Antonio Brown touched him.
Speaker 1: So after that, you're going, Okay, what do we do?
Speaker 1: It's not like you can go is any lineman in
Speaker 1: the building who want to play? Tony Selly was covering
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. It's not like you can say, Tony,
Speaker 1: you want to get the uniform on and help us.
Speaker 1: Probably would have helped you, but I couldn't help it.
Speaker 1: Wonder why it appeared as if Kansas City didn't make
Speaker 1: any adjustments, and if can you keep somebody back there
Speaker 1: to help an extra person? Keep in mind Tampa had
Speaker 1: four rushers, Kansas City had five offensive linemen. But if
Speaker 1: you throw fifty passes and they only blitzed five times,
Speaker 1: and what Tampa was begging you to throw short passes
Speaker 1: or run the football, begging you and you watch it again,
Speaker 1: and I would love to know Eric b Enemy if
Speaker 1: he said, this is the play that was supposed to
Speaker 1: be called er, this is how it's supposed to be run.
Speaker 1: And if you had Todd Bowles saying, this is what
Speaker 1: we were trying to do. We wanted to put pressure
Speaker 1: up the middle. We wanted to Mahomes moving. We wanted
Speaker 1: him running on that bad toe. I still would have
Speaker 1: looked at Clyde Edwards Laire and just take an advantage
Speaker 1: of his talent and look, I know it's hindsight, but
Speaker 1: that's what we do. You dissect it and then you
Speaker 1: watch it again. And then I couldn't help but go
Speaker 1: Kansas City. It doesn't feel like they kept doing the
Speaker 1: same thing over and over and over, and I kept going,
Speaker 1: at some point, you gotta go, this isn't going to work.
Speaker 1: And I don't I think they panicked. It just felt
Speaker 1: like we got to make something happen. And you know,
Speaker 1: the ball goes off Tyreek Hill's face mask. Okay, tough catch,
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey drops a ball with a defender around his feet.
Speaker 1: You had the penalties. At the end of the first half.
Speaker 1: It felt like Kansas City was starting to get a
Speaker 1: little desperate. They were nervous here because Brady the interception
Speaker 1: was called back due to a penalty, so they weren't
Speaker 1: making mistakes. And I thought, if Brady doesn't make any
Speaker 1: mistakes that defense will win this Super Bowl for them,
Speaker 1: and that's exactly what I mean. Brady was really good,
Speaker 1: the defense was great, and that was the difference here.
Speaker 1: But Kansas City didn't counteract. And that's what coaches do.
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick is the greatest coach of all time NFL
Speaker 1: history with his ability to adjust. He could adjust from
Speaker 1: quarter to quarter, half to half game, the game, season
Speaker 1: to season. And I did not see those adjustments with
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. Yeah, point Dan, you mentioned the penalties.
Speaker 1: When I was rewatching the Super Bowl last night, it
Speaker 1: felt like these the penalties came in a slew at
Speaker 1: the end of the first quarter and the entire second quarter,
Speaker 1: and when you rewatch it, you're watching more for their
Speaker 1: reaction and like someone was yelling. One of the I
Speaker 1: think is Tyreek Hill was yelling at Pringle because he
Speaker 1: went the wrong way. And then the defensive players, Chris
Speaker 1: Jones is yelling because he's being held and you could
Speaker 1: see the frustration. And I was with you a longer halftime.
Speaker 1: You thought to be more adjustments. Yeah, I just didn't
Speaker 1: see it. But it felt like, and you know, Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes even addressed this yesterday. This is what he had
Speaker 1: to say with what the loss meant to him, they'll
Speaker 1: definitely motivate you. I mean, if you're if you'rehen, you're
Speaker 1: a competitor, and you get so close to your ultimate
Speaker 1: goal and then you fall short. I mean, it's something
Speaker 1: that will motivate you for the rest of your career.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a it was a bad feeling
Speaker 1: in that locker room after the game. I mean, you
Speaker 1: don't want to have that feeling again. And so, uh uh,
Speaker 1: we're luckily enough while we'll have a lot of the
Speaker 1: same guys back um um, and I will obviously add
Speaker 1: new guys and and uh well, we'll set set the
Speaker 1: town from the beginning of the year, beginning of the
Speaker 1: off season that we have to be better. We had
Speaker 1: to better than even we were this last year in
Speaker 1: order to go out there and win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: And he admitted that he has to stop relying on
Speaker 1: the big play. He says, as today, I'm going to
Speaker 1: do whatever I can to try to look at the
Speaker 1: film and try to find ways to get better. Obviously,
Speaker 1: with our offense and the success we had, when teams
Speaker 1: see the defensive plan that they had and how well
Speaker 1: it worked, they're going to try and do the same thing.
Speaker 1: He has to be able to take what the defense
Speaker 1: gives him as great as he is. And I still
Speaker 1: looking back last night, if you could possibly have an
Speaker 1: incredible performance in a losing effort and not put up
Speaker 1: great numbers, necessarily, Patrick Mahomes did everything possible as far
Speaker 1: as athleticism, getting passes off. You know, he ran for
Speaker 1: over four hundred yards, He scrambled for over four hundred
Speaker 1: yards on a bad toe, and he fought to the
Speaker 1: very end. But they didn't make adjustments. They kept going,
Speaker 1: let's wait for the big play. Once we get that
Speaker 1: big play, and you know, Tampa Bay give him credit.
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay was just saying, we're going to have our
Speaker 1: safeties so deep that there's no chance anybody's getting behind us. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's the weird thing about the Chiefs not making any
Speaker 1: adjustments in the Super Bowl is because all season long
Speaker 1: they were famous for being a third quarter team. They
Speaker 1: would put up a billion points in the third quarter,
Speaker 1: which suggests that they made halftime adjustments. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: great point. But they didn't. They came out and you know,
Speaker 1: it still wasn't there. And it's not like Tampa was
Speaker 1: putting up. Tampa was had benefited from a short field
Speaker 1: throughout the playoffs because the defense has been so great.
Speaker 1: They didn't have, you know, long sustainable drives. I mean
Speaker 1: Kansas City. I'll gain Tampa Bay three fifty to three forty,
Speaker 1: but you know, Kansas City had to have these sustainable drives,
Speaker 1: but they didn't want to wait, we want to do
Speaker 1: it right now, whereas Tom Brady would have a short
Speaker 1: field and they were able to capitalize. Plus they scored
Speaker 1: touchdowns in Kansas City did not. If you say Kansas
Speaker 1: City is going to end up with three field goals
Speaker 1: and they're going to be in the red zone six times,
Speaker 1: Tampa's winning. If you're gonna say Tampa's going to score
Speaker 1: three touchdowns in the first half, Tampa's gonna win. But
Speaker 1: make no mistake about it, what they did defensively and
Speaker 1: continue to do that throughout the game, and the pressure
Speaker 1: they put on Patrick Mahomes. And it's not like everybody
Speaker 1: has You can have a blueprint, but that doesn't I
Speaker 1: can give you the blueprint for Steph Curry shot. That
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you can shoot like Steph Curry. But I
Speaker 1: got the blueprint. The teams have to have the personnel
Speaker 1: to be able to pull off the blueprint to be
Speaker 1: Kansas City. Tampa couldn't do it. Didn't do it the
Speaker 1: first time around. They got embarrassed, but they adjusted and
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles did a great job as the defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: of saying this is what we're going to do, and
Speaker 1: then all you do is be patient with your approach
Speaker 1: to Kansas City, because Kansas City was not patient. Hey,
Speaker 1: we make big plays. Where the big plays, I'm going
Speaker 1: to hold onto the ball, hold onto the ball. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get hit. I mean, he was under as much
Speaker 1: pressure as I've seen in a long time. I have
Speaker 1: to go back to when Brady play against the Giants.
Speaker 1: In the Giants beating with Michael Strahan. They pounded him
Speaker 1: every single time he threw the ball. But that was
Speaker 1: a great defensive performance, justin Tuck Michael strayan Ocumu. They
Speaker 1: put pressure on him and hit him every single time.
Speaker 1: And Patrick Mahomes is not used to that. I don't
Speaker 1: care what quarterback go down through history. Now, I'll tell you,
Speaker 1: once we start to hit you, it's interesting. You get
Speaker 1: the ball off a little quicker, get a little skittish
Speaker 1: in the pocket, and that's what happened with the great
Speaker 1: Patrick mahomes yamp On the penalties, Tampa gained one hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty yards on penalties on the Chiefs. Tampa was
Speaker 1: only four of twelve on third down conversions, but Tampa
Speaker 1: got six first downs off penalties. They stayed alive many
Speaker 1: different points in the game, the off sides, on the
Speaker 1: field goal, etc. Here is Andy Reid talking about the penalties.
Speaker 1: We have the opportunity to voice our gripes to the league,
Speaker 1: and they do a good job on responding to it.
Speaker 1: You know. So really, for whatever I think or what
Speaker 1: they think, the calls were made. And it's a shame
Speaker 1: that we had that many and that big a game,
Speaker 1: you know, that possibly were that close of a judgment call.
Speaker 1: All right, I think the officiating played a role, not
Speaker 1: a significant role. I know it's easy to go, well,
Speaker 1: the officials were on Tom Brady's side. This wasn't a
Speaker 1: close game. If it's a you know, single possession, then
Speaker 1: I could see where you're even angrier. But Kansas City
Speaker 1: put themselves in these situations here. You know, they were
Speaker 1: physical and they got caught and what I have called
Speaker 1: all those penalties, I would not you know the retaliation.
Speaker 1: There were two of those penalties, Jones and honey Badger.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have called them. I would have disaguised. Let's go,
Speaker 1: let's play on when got tripped. It's right there in
Speaker 1: front of the official and you know you have to
Speaker 1: call it honey badger in the end zone what I've
Speaker 1: called it? No, But you know a lot of these
Speaker 1: are you know, you start to get desperate, you're trying
Speaker 1: to make a play, and that comes back to haunt you,
Speaker 1: and it did with Kansas City. I was also curious
Speaker 1: about the ratings that Boston outrated Tampa Bay. How is
Speaker 1: that possible? Tommy? It's Tommy top rated super Bowl markets
Speaker 1: from Sunday, Kansas City almost sixty percent of the market
Speaker 1: was watching the Super Bowl. Boston slightly behind it, fifty
Speaker 1: seven point six, and then Tampa fifty two point three.
Speaker 1: Minneapolis was fifty point four. How wild is that? Man?
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Speaker 1: All Right, Nick Lovin, what do you have for me today? Okay,
Speaker 1: everyone's talking about Debuck's free agent issues. I could do
Speaker 1: this now or we could wait, but I have a
Speaker 1: tough question for you. You can keep one player, all right,
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, Rob Gronkowski or Leonard Fournette. Well, I believe
Speaker 1: Gronk's coming back due to his friendship with Brady. I
Speaker 1: don't think money's the issue, but beyond the money is
Speaker 1: an issue for Leonard Fournette, because Leonard Fournette is going
Speaker 1: to want to get paid. I think Antonio Brown also
Speaker 1: has loyalty to Tom Brady because Tom kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: brought him out of the dumpster and put him in
Speaker 1: a super Bowl and because of that, he made an
Speaker 1: extra seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars. So I would say,
Speaker 1: the one guy is Leonard Fournette, and who's the most
Speaker 1: important out of that trio for next year? I know
Speaker 1: Antonio was hurt on and off. I would say Leonard Fournette,
Speaker 1: But can't you get a running back, Tessy. That's where
Speaker 1: I was kind of getting at, like, you know, running
Speaker 1: backs are so generic today that maybe you're not worried
Speaker 1: about it. I don't want to spend a lot here
Speaker 1: for any of them, but I'm hopeful that I get
Speaker 1: a bargain with Gronk and I get a bargain with
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. Leonard Fournette. You know, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: break the bank for him. But Mike Evans said he
Speaker 1: would take less money or defer money or I don't
Speaker 1: know exactly, you know, how they're able to do it,
Speaker 1: but he said that, hey, if that meant we could
Speaker 1: keep these guys more than happy to do that. That's
Speaker 1: what happens after you win a super Bowl. You know,
Speaker 1: it's so hard to repeat for a variety of reasons.
Speaker 1: Part of it is you win and then you want
Speaker 1: to go get paid, Like I won my Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: Do I want to stay? Well? Okay, like Shack Barrett's
Speaker 1: the big one for me. I mean, Shack Barrett, of
Speaker 1: all of those players, is more impactful. That'd be the
Speaker 1: guy I want to keep. But I don't know if
Speaker 1: they'll keep everybody. But I would guess you're gonna get
Speaker 1: Gronk and Antonio Brown who want to be loyal to
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. What else do you have? Yeah, that I
Speaker 1: was going to ask you about Shack Barrett. He's sort
Speaker 1: of in a different category. That's off Chris Godwin, Levante,
Speaker 1: David and Damkinso, okay, I have a random question. This
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with our guest list. I'll give
Speaker 1: you three choices. Win Man of the Year, Walter Payton
Speaker 1: Man Year, be in the Super Bowl, or be married
Speaker 1: to Ciarra. But you can only do one of those
Speaker 1: three things. Just a random, just hypothetical. So I'm in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, but I don't necessarily win the super Bowl. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll give you be in the super Bowl, you win
Speaker 1: Walter Payton Man the Year, or you get to be
Speaker 1: married to Ciarra, So I could be the Walter Peyton
Speaker 1: Man of the Year basically all the things that Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson has done. Basically Russell Wilson if you had, if
Speaker 1: you had to pull one of those things. I was
Speaker 1: watching him this week and I'm like, Wow, that guy
Speaker 1: has has a lot figured out. He said, dude, Okay,
Speaker 1: Walter Payton Man of the Year is a great honor.
Speaker 1: Being in the super Bowl is awesome. If you said
Speaker 1: winning the super Bowl, I would take winning the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: That's another form of the question. Would you rather be
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer or rather have a ring and
Speaker 1: be an impactful player with a ring? Yeah, but we've
Speaker 1: done that before. Yeah. Well I was like, yeah, um,
Speaker 1: you know I love Sierra. We co starred in a
Speaker 1: movie with Adam Sandler. But you know I'm happily married.
Speaker 1: Now if I'm twenty five years of age, Well, all right, hi, Sierra,
Speaker 1: how are you hi? Yeah? My voice, Yeah, I'm glad
Speaker 1: you like it. It gets deeper as the day goes on,
Speaker 1: it's like our voice, yours any mine, You're pretty good.
Speaker 1: Just so you know my voice can become your voice. Yes, mclemo.
Speaker 1: Do you remember how awkward the day that's where when
Speaker 1: Tarra was at Saint Albots with us after the movie premiere. Oh,
Speaker 1: I was too. She was seated right behind me, and
Speaker 1: I was like a giggling little schoolboy going hi and uh,
Speaker 1: you know that's one of those where you see somebody
Speaker 1: in person, you go, they're even more beautiful in person.
Speaker 1: And she was fun, she was giddy. Yes, that was
Speaker 1: like the most bizarre or like surreal dinner ever, because
Speaker 1: like I could turn around if I wasn't looking at
Speaker 1: Adam Sandler directly across from me, I would turn around
Speaker 1: and see Sierra talking to Vanilla Ice. You're like, dude,
Speaker 1: what Vanilla Ice will fote will fourte? Like what is this? Yes,
Speaker 1: m I sat next to Bill Romanowski at dinner. Literally
Speaker 1: I sat. I didn't even know he's there. I didn't
Speaker 1: know he was either. Yeah, he was just like he
Speaker 1: had nowhere else to see. He's like, hey, mclova, it
Speaker 1: just sat down there. So this is at the super
Speaker 1: Bowl in Indianapolis and they had the movie premiere That's
Speaker 1: My Boy, and they had it. Uh, they're a private
Speaker 1: screening for us. And then we went to Saint Elmo's,
Speaker 1: this great restaurant there in downtown Indianapolis, and they had
Speaker 1: us down in the basement with this huge table there,
Speaker 1: private table, and uh, we just piled on Sandler's tab
Speaker 1: the entire night there. All right, let me take a break.
Speaker 1: We'll get phone calls coming up. Settle on a pole question,
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson Junior the Third. We'll join us a little
Speaker 1: bit later on Nick Wrong from Fox Sports. But up
Speaker 1: next Tony Bisselli from an often cib Lineman standpoint perspective,
Speaker 1: What changes could have been made? Adjustments could have been
Speaker 1: made by the Kansas City Chiefs twenty two After the
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Speaker 1: around the country. Just got word that Marty Schottenheimer has
Speaker 1: passed away at the age of seventy seven, and longtime
Speaker 1: NFL head coach. Worked with him for a little while
Speaker 1: at ESPN when coaches would come through and basically it
Speaker 1: was a pit stop. They might be there for a
Speaker 1: year or so. Marty Schottenheimer came in and wanted to
Speaker 1: be great as an analyst. His approach was as if
Speaker 1: he was coaching a game, and I always had great
Speaker 1: respect for him that he came in and wanted to
Speaker 1: learn how to be an analyst if he was going
Speaker 1: to be there for a couple of years and then
Speaker 1: move on. But Marty Schottenheimer, the legendary NFL coach, has
Speaker 1: passed away at the age of seventy seven. Tony Bisselli.
Speaker 1: He was a Hall of Fame finalist for the fifth
Speaker 1: consecutive year a Top ten finalist. He was also on
Speaker 1: the sidelines for Westwood one's coverage of Super Bowl fifty
Speaker 1: five and Tampa and Tony joins us. Now, Tony, thanks
Speaker 1: for joining us. Let me start with you being a
Speaker 1: great offensive line and watching what Kansas City's strategy was
Speaker 1: with their offensive line and why that seemed like there
Speaker 1: were very little adjustments there during the game against that
Speaker 1: Tampa front four. Yeah, I think it's a great It's
Speaker 1: a great point, I mean, and other than just highlight
Speaker 1: the fact that I don't care how good your quarterback is.
Speaker 1: If you can't block people up front, you have no chance.
Speaker 1: I mean. It reminded me watching that game back to
Speaker 1: the eighteen and old Patriots, and they were the most
Speaker 1: explosive offense we've ever seen, and four guys from the
Speaker 1: Giants ruined the entire game and because they couldn't block them.
Speaker 1: And I was surprised though at Kansas City that they
Speaker 1: didn't do more stuff horizontally getting the ball out of
Speaker 1: his hand quickly early in that game. All year we've
Speaker 1: seen them with the wide receiver screens We've seen them
Speaker 1: with jet sweeks kind of getting horizontal, and we saw
Speaker 1: very little of that. And I think they put a
Speaker 1: lot of stress on that offensive line early that was unneeded,
Speaker 1: and at the end of the day when they got behind,
Speaker 1: they just couldn't hold up. So I didn't you know,
Speaker 1: It's it's tough going in. They had basically three guys
Speaker 1: backups playing backup left tackle, who's really their backup right tackle,
Speaker 1: their starting right guard backup now he's the backup right tackle,
Speaker 1: and you bring up your backup right guard. So it's
Speaker 1: three positions that are weakened. I mean, that's hard to
Speaker 1: go overcome. And I'm just surprised that Andy Reid Eric
Speaker 1: the enemy didn't have a better plan to protect those guys.
Speaker 1: I still think they were loading up for the big
Speaker 1: play Tony that they didn't take. You know, Clyde Edwards
Speaker 1: Hilaire was averaging six yards per carry. I thought that
Speaker 1: they could run the football. And the defense that Tampa's playing,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, their safeties were so deep. You
Speaker 1: got to see that in person. They're basically saying, you
Speaker 1: guys want the dink and dunk, go ahead, We're just
Speaker 1: not going to let you get behind us here. Why
Speaker 1: wouldn't you just why wouldn't you take what they were
Speaker 1: giving you? As we always love to say, you know,
Speaker 1: we were saying it on the broadcast. I have no
Speaker 1: idea because if you look at the first matchup in
Speaker 1: the first quarter, when Tyreek Hill had two hundred yards,
Speaker 1: Cob Bowls was aggressive, playing a lot of man coverage
Speaker 1: coming after him, and they were getting just skewered. They
Speaker 1: had no chance. Cob Bolts adjustments coming in. I think
Speaker 1: he knew they could get pressure with four. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna rush for. We're gonna play two iye safeties, play
Speaker 1: a lot of them. We'll play some man underneath with
Speaker 1: the two ye safeties. And he basically saying we will
Speaker 1: not get beat today. Deep. If you want to dink
Speaker 1: and duncas, if you want to run, if you have
Speaker 1: the discipline to do that, so be it. But we
Speaker 1: know we can rush with for and we know that
Speaker 1: you're not going to be the steep. And I still
Speaker 1: don't understand why they didn't run the ball more. And
Speaker 1: I don't understand why didn't they attest the perimeter with
Speaker 1: all their speed and just get the ball out of
Speaker 1: Patrick's hands. Because once you do that, you then could
Speaker 1: have forced Todd Bowls out of what he wanted to do,
Speaker 1: forced him to drop that extra safety, force him to
Speaker 1: play up and being more aggressive to stop the Dincon dunk.
Speaker 1: Then the shot is there over the top. But to
Speaker 1: your point, it felt like from the beginning they said,
Speaker 1: we want the big play and it just wasn't there.
Speaker 1: And also you have Mahomes with a bad toe, and
Speaker 1: he ran for over four hundred yards just scrambling, and
Speaker 1: I thought the defensive philosophy was, let's go up the
Speaker 1: middle and let's make can run a little bit here.
Speaker 1: Let's you know, we're going to test his athleticism, his
Speaker 1: greatness here. And it just you know, Tyreek Hill drops
Speaker 1: the ball, Kelsey drops the ball. It's they It felt
Speaker 1: like they started to panic a little bit. Tony, Well,
Speaker 1: if that's a guy with a turf bad turf to
Speaker 1: so can I get two of those roads. He's making
Speaker 1: plays I've never seen throwing. He's parallels in the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, throwing the ball twenty yards down the field.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I think it hit Williams in
Speaker 1: the hands that was dropped. I mean, there was a
Speaker 1: number of plays that they just make them, we might
Speaker 1: have a different outcome or a much closer game. Um,
Speaker 1: there was no juice either. Dan was the other thing.
Speaker 1: I was on that chief sidelines, you know. Early there
Speaker 1: was some excitement. As soon as it started going against them. Um,
Speaker 1: there was no juice at all. It felt like the
Speaker 1: air was let out of the balloon. And they didn't
Speaker 1: have the answer for the test. And I thought it
Speaker 1: was because I was waiting the whole time we said it.
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for when they say enough enough, let's get going,
Speaker 1: let's go fast, Let's get the ball out of her
Speaker 1: hands and go and use our speed. They never did it.
Speaker 1: And give Tampa credit because they couldn't block those four
Speaker 1: guys up front. I mean, and it got it got
Speaker 1: worse and worse. It was like an avalanche just coming
Speaker 1: on top of him. And by the time you got
Speaker 1: mid mid to late third quarter, I don't think they
Speaker 1: had any answers. He's Tony Baselli, the Jaguars radio color
Speaker 1: analyst and former Pro Bowl offensive lineman. How easy is
Speaker 1: it to block for Brady? I think, to me, I
Speaker 1: think it's easier than I think it's easier to block
Speaker 1: for Brady than Mahomes because you know where he is
Speaker 1: at all at all time, all times. He's very gets
Speaker 1: the ball out quick, and he's great at working up
Speaker 1: into the pocket. So as an offensive tackle, you love
Speaker 1: that because it really takes away you can take away
Speaker 1: the angles, Like if you want to go rush up
Speaker 1: the field, that's fine. I'm gonna take away the power.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take away inside and it helps you a lot.
Speaker 1: He's just he's spectacular. And I think the other thing
Speaker 1: and Mahomes has this as well, Dan. Any time, as
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman you have confidence in the guy behind you,
Speaker 1: it just makes everything easy here. It makes you play better.
Speaker 1: You just know that something good is going to happen.
Speaker 1: And both those guys have that that quality and it's
Speaker 1: I guarantee, it's a lot of fun to play for
Speaker 1: the ball. Well, Brady could step up in the pocket,
Speaker 1: Tony Mahomes could not step up in the pocket all
Speaker 1: night long. Well he could have. I think at times, Dan,
Speaker 1: I see this is where if I think if he
Speaker 1: watched the tape, there's and this happens all the time,
Speaker 1: and Kurt Warner and I talked about it. Mahomes will
Speaker 1: just start backing up even though the right move is
Speaker 1: this step up. It's his habit. He has some of
Speaker 1: the worst footwork I've ever seen, but he's so talented
Speaker 1: he gets away with it. I mean, he can throw
Speaker 1: off any platform. There's no one else in the league
Speaker 1: who can do what he does. And a lot of
Speaker 1: times where you're saying, hey, step up and work the pocket,
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm just gonna back up and buy myself
Speaker 1: time because I can throw it with a flick at
Speaker 1: my wrist seventy yards, and so he does. He's very unconventional.
Speaker 1: I don't think you want to change it because he's
Speaker 1: so dang good. But you know there were now to
Speaker 1: your point, there were also times he had no chance
Speaker 1: of drug step up because I thought the untold story
Speaker 1: that we didn't really focus on. I mean, people are
Speaker 1: talking about it because JPP and Jack Barrett got all
Speaker 1: the attention, but in Dominican, Sue and Vita Vea were
Speaker 1: just bullies in the middle, and they really did press
Speaker 1: the pocket. To your point, and you're on the chief sidelines.
Speaker 1: I was watching that the game last night, rewatching it,
Speaker 1: it felt like these penalties really got to them, that
Speaker 1: they were taking that to the sidelines. Whether it was
Speaker 1: Jones or it was Honey Badger, and I don't know.
Speaker 1: They were getting caught up in smaller details instead of
Speaker 1: a larger picture here. What was it like on the
Speaker 1: sidelines with that, Well, I was, you know, we weren't
Speaker 1: actually on the side we're at in that moat, you know,
Speaker 1: the area right before, so I was like, we're like
Speaker 1: two feet I was right by the defensive line, actually
Speaker 1: right behind Chris Jones neck group, and there was a
Speaker 1: lot of chirping back and forth, and there was a
Speaker 1: lot of at times people players having to stand between players.
Speaker 1: Not that it was going to be a fistfight or anything,
Speaker 1: but there was haller them back and forth. You could
Speaker 1: see the frustration. At one point, I think laitness the
Speaker 1: second quarter, Steve Spagnola came over and got the entire
Speaker 1: defense together and spent about five minutes kind of trying
Speaker 1: to get everyone to calm down, everyone to get on
Speaker 1: the same page. And I do think those penalties heard
Speaker 1: of them there, But if you go watch them all year, Dan,
Speaker 1: they're an aggressive group. They get their hands on receivers
Speaker 1: and sometimes you know, you don't get away with it.
Speaker 1: They didn't get away with it on well how big
Speaker 1: do you think those How legit do you think those
Speaker 1: penalties were in the first half. I think most of
Speaker 1: them are right. The one that I thought was interesting
Speaker 1: was that last drive right before the half is the
Speaker 1: passive affearance on Honey Badger. I thought Brady was throwing
Speaker 1: that away. I mean, I never I mean, it wasn't
Speaker 1: even in the same zip code. It was so high
Speaker 1: there's no one for catching that. And so if it's
Speaker 1: not a catchable ball and there's no chance of play
Speaker 1: being made, I'm not sure why they called passive inference there.
Speaker 1: That'd be the one. I was a little bit like,
Speaker 1: huh with that said that drive, I don't think every
Speaker 1: should have got down there. I was surprised that Andy
Speaker 1: Reid I understood the first time out he called at
Speaker 1: the end of the half. The second time, after they
Speaker 1: got eight yards it was third and too. Why are
Speaker 1: you calling time out there? Because if they get that
Speaker 1: two yards now, all of a sudden, you are at
Speaker 1: risk of getting up points. And the way the half
Speaker 1: was going, I just thought, you know what, after they
Speaker 1: got their yards, let this thing run out forced Bruce
Speaker 1: arians use the time out force in to do it.
Speaker 1: And so I didn't like that decision making process. And
Speaker 1: I didn't like that one call in because I thought
Speaker 1: ball was not even close to be catchable. Top ten
Speaker 1: finalist for the fifth consecutive year. You know what, the
Speaker 1: party will be even better, Tony once it happens. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gould be great. I mean I always get to
Speaker 1: this point, Dan, is you look at it? I mean,
Speaker 1: how are you going to say anything bad about the
Speaker 1: five guys that got in there? I mean Charles Woodson,
Speaker 1: Paid Manning, Calvin Johnson, Fannaka and Flinch. They're all great players,
Speaker 1: and so yeah what I like to be there, absolutely,
Speaker 1: but never take anything away from them. And I always say,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's supposed to be in LA. I
Speaker 1: went to see you know, maybe you know it would
Speaker 1: be even better being out kind of were on with
Speaker 1: the Callegs and got this whole thing started. So we'll
Speaker 1: see it how it works out. One thing that has
Speaker 1: taught me about twenty twenty, Dan, don't worry about tomorrow
Speaker 1: because it could change quickly. He doesn't enjoy where you're at,
Speaker 1: and so hopefully it happens in the near future and
Speaker 1: hopefully next year twenty two the year. Thank you, buddy.
Speaker 1: Thanks for all your access here during the year. We
Speaker 1: appreciate your time as always, damn anytime really appreciating me.
Speaker 1: It's Tony Bisselli. He does the Jags radio color analyst
Speaker 1: and former Jags offensive lineman. You know, he's similar to
Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson, you know, three time All Pro, he went
Speaker 1: to five Pro Bowls and he retired at age thirty.
Speaker 1: But he retired due to injuries. And I'll go back
Speaker 1: to what I say because everything time I bring it
Speaker 1: up about Tony Bisselli, when I saw that he was
Speaker 1: not a Hall of Famer, but he was up for
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. This is five years ago. Four
Speaker 1: years ago, I just started the campaign for him. I
Speaker 1: felt that way with Jimbo Covert. I thought that he
Speaker 1: was a Hall of Famer. I don't have a vote,
Speaker 1: but if I feel like there's an injustice or somebody
Speaker 1: should at least remember somebody, then I'm going to speak
Speaker 1: on their behalf. I'd never met Tony Bisselli until a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago when we had him on the show,
Speaker 1: and I think he belongs in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: I think he was that great. And when Anthony Munio's
Speaker 1: who I think is the greatest tackle, maybe the greatest
Speaker 1: offensive lineman in history. Speaks on your behalf about Tony
Speaker 1: Bisselli and how great he was. That's all I need.
Speaker 1: In fact, I didn't even need that. Yeah, McLevin, I
Speaker 1: think it's really hard for the average fan with no
Speaker 1: numbers to judge Lyneman on it. Kevin Johnson, you can
Speaker 1: see numbers, and it was pulus. The Jags weren't relevant.
Speaker 1: You know, they had their moment there with Brunelle. But
Speaker 1: had they had a little more success than maybe he
Speaker 1: would have stood out. But he played at USC, so
Speaker 1: at least he had some fanfare coming into the NFL,
Speaker 1: and he was a first round draft pick, a high
Speaker 1: draft pick. It just he didn't stay healthy long enough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the most first team All Pro selections
Speaker 1: in NFL history. There's only a few that are some recent.
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice had ten, Anthony Munos had nine. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you get three, you're probably going to the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame. Yeah, if you get three All pros. There's
Speaker 1: a handful of guys who have eight, but not that
Speaker 1: you know. Lawrence Taylor had eight, Reduit at eight, Bruce
Speaker 1: Smith at eight. Man I got a chance see Anthony
Speaker 1: Muno's growing up in Cincinnati, and you know, got a
Speaker 1: chance to work with him at ESPN. But I think
Speaker 1: he's the best offensive lineman in history. His athleticism. He
Speaker 1: was a former baseball player at USC and he had size, skill,
Speaker 1: great footwork and you never had to worry about the
Speaker 1: left side because you had Anthony Munio's there. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll take a break. Play of the day up, Nick.
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Speaker 1: Cowboy fans easy here, Hey, you said Anthony Munos, What
Speaker 1: about Larry Ellen? In my opinion, Anthony Munos is the
Speaker 1: greatest offensive lineman in history. Larry Allen is certainly in
Speaker 1: the conversation, no argument whatsoever. You want to put Jonathan
Speaker 1: Ogden in there. We can go back to lineman in
Speaker 1: the sixties if you want to, or the seventies if
Speaker 1: you want to. But in my opinion, Anthony Munos was
Speaker 1: as athletic, if not more athletic, than any left tackle,
Speaker 1: and his ability to block great footboard strength, all of that,
Speaker 1: and that would be just my opinion here. All right,
Speaker 1: You're entitled to yours and they're welcome anytime. You can
Speaker 1: dial us up, you can email, you can tweet, you
Speaker 1: can do all the above. Yes, I think we had
Speaker 1: Howie Long on one time and he said there was
Speaker 1: a thing in an NFL called the Larry Allen flew. Yeah,
Speaker 1: where some people would have like a little hammy or
Speaker 1: right elbow on the defensive line when they're facing Larry Allen.
Speaker 1: I'm not feeling good today. You gotta set this one out. Wait.
Speaker 1: This is the third time we played the Cowboys and
Speaker 1: you haven't faced Larry Allen. I know, I don't know
Speaker 1: what it is. I just don't feel good. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: my back this time. Yes me, clem, I'm looking at
Speaker 1: it all time. List Orlando Pace in that cover. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but there's a bunch of raiders linement and that's up
Speaker 1: fair like Art Shell and those guys had like casts
Speaker 1: on both hands. They were cheaty left and right. They
Speaker 1: had weapons there. I was watching the Al Davis versus
Speaker 1: the NFL last night. I was watching that thirty for
Speaker 1: thirty interesting. I mean, Al Davis is such a character.
Speaker 1: If you were a Raider fan and you had an
Speaker 1: owner who basically said to the rest of the NFL,
Speaker 1: bleep you. You know, even if that guy was going
Speaker 1: to move your team from Oakland to la somehow you
Speaker 1: still loved the Raiders and still loved Al Davis. There
Speaker 1: was just something about it. But he was a brilliant businessman. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he pulled all the strings and being around Pete Roselle
Speaker 1: and not afraid of Pete Roselle. And then you had
Speaker 1: the ultimate, Hey, you won the Super Bowl, Pete Roselle,
Speaker 1: the commissioner has to hand the trophy to Al Davis
Speaker 1: and there was going to be a prank that they
Speaker 1: were going to pull on the commissioner. The Raiders were
Speaker 1: back then. You didn't have a press conference. They were
Speaker 1: in the locker room. And that was in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: They had beaten the Eagles, and what was going to
Speaker 1: happen is if Al Davis didn't say thank you, Commissioner,
Speaker 1: then the Raiders players were going to prank the commissioner.
Speaker 1: Now I don't know what they were going to do,
Speaker 1: but they waited for the signal and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Commissioner gives Al Davis the Trophy. And then Bryant Gumbel
Speaker 1: is working for ENDBC and he's got the microphone in
Speaker 1: front al Davis and he's like, basically, all you're quiet,
Speaker 1: And I think Alan the moment is thinking I can
Speaker 1: say thank you, commissioner, or I can just start talking
Speaker 1: about the commitment to excellence. And you had this little
Speaker 1: bit of a pause and the players were waiting, and
Speaker 1: then he said thank you, commissioner, and then the players
Speaker 1: stood down. Pretty good, pretty good stuff. All right, let
Speaker 1: me see what do we have here. We had phone
Speaker 1: calls coming up. Did we settle on our poll question?
Speaker 1: We did not. We have a series of quarterback questions.
Speaker 1: It's again like debating when do you want to get
Speaker 1: into these? But PAULI threw out a really interesting one
Speaker 1: that I can't stop thinking about. Who would you rather
Speaker 1: have in their best season? Matthew Stafford or Carson Wentz. Well,
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz was going to be the MVP until he
Speaker 1: decided to try to run in against the Rams Tours. ACL. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford has not been I don't know if he's
Speaker 1: been a top five, has he ever gotten an MVP vote?
Speaker 1: But we had that massive yardage season. I wonder if
Speaker 1: that got him into the rankings at all. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: guys who have massive yardage years use your team on
Speaker 1: teams that aren't very good. I mean, Matthew Stafford's made
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl one year. That's almost impossible to do
Speaker 1: at the quarterbacking position. It feels like, you know, you
Speaker 1: get down to the sixth or seventh alternate and then
Speaker 1: you're gonna make the Pro Bowl. Yeah, Polly Wentz his
Speaker 1: second year twenty seventeen, he made the Pro Bowl. He
Speaker 1: was eleven and two. He was through for thirty three
Speaker 1: touchdowns and seven picks. That was the same time when
Speaker 1: we had that quarterback draft, who would you start your
Speaker 1: franchise with? And Fritzie Womancarson Wentzon and there was there's
Speaker 1: a lot of buzz around him. But I guess I'm
Speaker 1: saying the question is, if you're gonna pay what the
Speaker 1: Rams paid for matt Stafford, would you pay equal or
Speaker 1: more for Carson Wentz, who seems to have a higher
Speaker 1: upside that we haven't seen in a while, and he's
Speaker 1: five years four years younger. I just want to know
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford's health. If you say that, we sign off,
Speaker 1: and obviously you know the Rams had too if they're
Speaker 1: going to make this trade. But right now, I take
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford because I don't there's a great unknown with
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. It's physical and it's mental, and he's regressed.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can say Matthew Stafford has sort of
Speaker 1: been on a level and he stayed on that level.
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz has been above that level and then he's
Speaker 1: right now below that level. But he's five years younger.
Speaker 1: I just don't want to give up two first round
Speaker 1: picks for him and something else. And I think the Eagles,
Speaker 1: I mean, if they get that, good for them, Delight.
Speaker 1: What happens to Nick Foles? Nick Foles is in Chicago,
Speaker 1: you trade Carson Wentz to Chicago. I can't have Nick
Speaker 1: Foles there. And then Nick Foles comes back to Philly
Speaker 1: and then Jayla Hurts has to deal with Nick Fole.
Speaker 1: Like every day Jalen Hurts goes to the stadium, there's
Speaker 1: a statue of Nick Foles outside. All Right, one hour
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