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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the program. Mark varandermir and John

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Speaker 1: Harris with you from the Hunday Texans radio studio Fun Night.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk free agency with Jonathan Alexander and combine

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Speaker 1: as well as that is over, but we still have

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Speaker 1: some content to go through, including part of our interview

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Speaker 1: with Dave McGuinness, former NFL head coach and Titan's radio

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Speaker 1: color commentator. A lot to say about the division and

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Speaker 1: such and quarterbacks that could come into the division. Johnny

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Speaker 1: and I will go over that, and a prominent free

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Speaker 1: agent on the market today. But let's get into it

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Speaker 1: now with our buddy from the Houston Chronicle, our visit

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Speaker 1: with Jonathan Alexander. Jonathan, I'll go open ended here. How

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Speaker 1: was your trip to the scouting combine?

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Speaker 2: It was pruoful, it was sure, It wasn't super long.

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Speaker 3: You know, I've stayed the entire week in the past

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Speaker 3: like that twenty twenty three combine. But these days it's

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Speaker 3: a quick trip and get out. And maybe that's a

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Speaker 3: good thing for the Texans because that means they're not

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Speaker 3: in the search for one of the top in the draft.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it is good. All those people that have stayed Tennessee.

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Speaker 4: They had to stay for all of that. Jonathan, what

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Speaker 4: was kind of amongst your different media comrades and people

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Speaker 4: to combine? Was there anything that sort of stood out

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Speaker 4: from a Texans angle or was it kind of all

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Speaker 4: quiet on the western front?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think one of the things that stood out and

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Speaker 3: recently wrote about this was, you know, really, you know

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Speaker 3: how much the Texans are going to be trying to

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Speaker 3: go after a defensive line offensive line that Domico has

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Speaker 3: said this that he wants to show up the trenches

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Speaker 3: and wide receiver as well. And I heard a few

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Speaker 3: names of some guys who could be on who they

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Speaker 3: could be targeting. And you know, also the it was

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Speaker 3: interesting to hear about the Deebo Samuel trade and the

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Speaker 3: Texans reported interest and I got a little bit more

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Speaker 3: clarity on that that the Texans didn't make it offer,

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Speaker 3: but it was you know a few rumors that the

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Speaker 3: technics were evolved in, but got some clarity on how

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Speaker 3: what direction they'll go win for agency is next week.

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Speaker 1: Don't you think that agents sometimes try to inflate the

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Speaker 1: market or expand the market in a potential trade situation

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Speaker 1: like that. I feel like sometimes we're all being played

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Speaker 1: all the time, all the time.

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Speaker 3: You know, will always overstate the value of their clients

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Speaker 3: and hopes that their clients will get big contracts, which.

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Speaker 2: In turn gets them more higher paid.

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Speaker 3: It happens all the time, and that's really why you

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Speaker 3: in the journalism industry in particular, why you always have

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Speaker 3: to have multiple sources and someone who can give the

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Speaker 3: other side of the story.

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Speaker 4: Johnathan, what do you make of I mean, there obviously

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Speaker 4: was no offer made in the Deebo Samuel situation. But

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Speaker 4: do you think as it pertains to free agents that

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Speaker 4: or even trade targets of Texas will be in on

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Speaker 4: some of the receivers Cooper Cup there is one that

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Speaker 4: is rumored because obviously it's connection to Nick Kayley and

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Speaker 4: what he's got left in the tank. What are your

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Speaker 4: thoughts about how receiver goes? And what did you hear

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Speaker 4: about the interest in Deebo Samuel? Was it just a

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Speaker 4: what are your thoughts? But no offers really made?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? One, you know I wrote about this today.

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Speaker 3: The Texans are going to be active in the veteran trade,

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Speaker 3: I mean the veteran market wide receiver market. You know,

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Speaker 3: they want to enhance their wide receiver and they think

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Speaker 3: that they can do it by getting one of the

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Speaker 3: veteran wide receivers. Cooper Cup is obviously an option out there.

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Speaker 3: There's some free free agents as well. DeMarcus Robinson's a

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Speaker 3: free agent, you know. I slowly expect Sexans to explore

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Speaker 3: all of those and include probably talk to other teams

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Speaker 3: about trades. As far as Deebo Samuel goes, there was

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Speaker 3: interest there. The Texans wanted to see, you know, what

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Speaker 3: as staunched in their pursuit as the Washington commanders were.

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Speaker 3: The Commanders were the team all along that were expressing

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Speaker 3: the more most interests. The Texans had interest, but they,

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Speaker 3: you know, wanted to figure some things out first, you know,

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Speaker 2: Who Texans don't have a ton of cap space right

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Speaker 3: Are going to have to cut some salary cap space

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Speaker 1: So let's say they acquire and I say acquire because yeah,

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Speaker 1: trade is a possibility here as opposed to free agency

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Speaker 1: or in addition too, But they get player X who's

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Speaker 6: Pretty high up, relatively.

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Speaker 1: High up in this draft. Does that mean anything to

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Speaker 1: about what I just said? Jonathan?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think as of right now, before free agency,

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Speaker 3: I think the Texans probably more likely to draft a

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Speaker 3: then get a wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: In the second or third round. Now, if they find.

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Speaker 3: Who they want in free agency and there's really no

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Speaker 3: you have the the draft wide receiver in the first round.

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Speaker 3: So having said that, I think those are their top

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Speaker 3: it's two right now. But of course free agency changes things.

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Speaker 3: That changes your priorities, It changes your needs and and

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Speaker 3: the value you place.

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Speaker 2: On those needs.

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Speaker 4: Jonathan on Tuesday, DeVante Adams to be released by the Jets.

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Speaker 6: Is it as simple as well?

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Speaker 4: Wherever Aaron Rodgers goes, DeVante Adams is going to end

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Speaker 4: up there or do you think if they still got

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Speaker 4: a market I don't know if it's a reasonable market

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Speaker 4: or probably what he wants. Where do you kind of

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Speaker 4: see the DeVante Adams situation going following Aaron Rodgers or

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it depends on on Aaron Rodgers, Like

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Speaker 2: Teams will place value on him.

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Speaker 3: Obviously he still has a little bit of juice left,

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Speaker 3: but you know which team are going to offer him,

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Speaker 3: and I don't know. I don't think DeVante Adams will

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Speaker 3: mess necessarily wait for Aaron Rodgers unless Aaron Rodgers was

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Speaker 3: to get a deal pretty early on, and that's always

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Speaker 3: a possibility. But I think Davante Adams could be a

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Speaker 3: benefit for a lot of different teams.

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Speaker 2: You still saw that he was able to have success.

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Speaker 3: He's obviously not the same wide receiver that he was,

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Speaker 3: but when you stack him up with a lot of

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Speaker 3: the veteran wide receivers on the market, he's probably he's

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Speaker 3: definitely top five and could be a little bit higher,

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Speaker 3: but so he still has value when it comes to

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Speaker 3: what teams are be looking now.

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Speaker 2: Of course, it's going to take can you get him

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Speaker 2: for the right price?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 2: I think that's a huge factor that'll play in it.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Alexander of The Chronicle joining us, Jonathan, what is

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Speaker 1: the top question you get from people about the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: You were traveling around Indianapolis last week, so where we

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Speaker 1: get a lot of questions about the team. Give me

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Speaker 1: one or two of the top questions you get regarding

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Speaker 2: One of the top questions. That's a great questus in itself.

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Speaker 3: I mean people always ask me like what is it

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Speaker 3: like to cover the players? And what is CJ like?

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Speaker 3: And what is uh you know whoever? Like who are

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Speaker 3: some of your favorite players to cover? And you know

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Speaker 3: CJ is great. I always tell him, like Nico is,

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Speaker 3: he doesn't know he's a superstar, and so covering him

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Speaker 3: is interesting because you would think he would be a

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Speaker 2: I don't even think he knows he's famous.

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Speaker 6: That's true, Like that man, just like you can.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's just like a regular guy.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I think those are probably the most

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Speaker 3: top questions. And then they also want to know if

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Speaker 3: the Taxans have a chance to win, And to be honest,

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Speaker 3: I think the AFC is going to be wide open.

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Speaker 2: I think the Chiefs are probably going to take a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a hit.

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Speaker 3: And you know, obviously the Ravens and the Bills are

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Speaker 2: They can get past the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: To think, if the Texan can have a really big offseason,

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Speaker 3: then they could also make some noise. And you know,

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Speaker 3: they have experience and now a new offensive coordinator that

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Speaker 3: they hope will get them back on track.

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Speaker 4: Jonathan, where do you think the position of running back

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Speaker 4: stands as a priority for the Texans?

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Speaker 6: We know Joe there two years under contract.

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Speaker 4: Damian Pierce is this demion'sier fourth year? Yeah, so contract

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Speaker 4: here for Damien. We don't know beyond that. I think

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Speaker 4: daries a free agent. So where do you think the

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Speaker 4: running back sits as a priority for this team going

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Speaker 3: I do think it's like a top priority as far

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Speaker 3: like I mentioned guard, wide receiver and and defensive line

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Speaker 2: But and but I think running back is up there.

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Speaker 3: You know, you gotta factor in the fact that Damian

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Speaker 3: Pierce might not be past might not be within the

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Speaker 2: Past twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: He might be looking for a new home unless they

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Speaker 3: think they liked everything that he's done before about done

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Speaker 3: reality is he might be trying to figure out where

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Speaker 3: to find a potential backup plan, and I do think

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Speaker 3: that that'll be high up on this list of needs.

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Speaker 3: And of course, Dara is a free agent, and he's

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Speaker 3: always seems like he's a free agent every year, but

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Speaker 3: he has so much value in special teams and they're

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Speaker 3: gonna need to find somebody who can replace him if

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Speaker 3: he doesn't return, even though I think they'll try to

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Speaker 3: high priority.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So you think Dara they'll attempt to resign him

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Speaker 1: because he does play a lot of snaps, no question

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Speaker 1: about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do.

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Speaker 3: I think it depends on what day is wanting. Does

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Speaker 3: he want to go and does he feel like he

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Speaker 3: can be a huge part of a team, because you

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Speaker 3: saw how good he can be in the passing game,

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Speaker 3: so he may feel that other teams may value him

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Speaker 3: a little bit more and see more playing time, but

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Speaker 3: I do know that the text and value him as

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Speaker 3: a special teams contributor and a backup when things get

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Speaker 3: a little bit dicey. You saw his value when he

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Speaker 3: was an emergency kicker into twenty twenty three. So you know,

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Speaker 3: I know they love dari and we'll love to bring

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Speaker 3: them back, but you know, these players also have other ambitions,

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Speaker 3: so we'll see how it shakes out.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm wondering what the reaction is going to be

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Speaker 1: the offseason acquisition period, because we know there could be

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Speaker 1: trades later and other acquisitions. But last year it took

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no question, Johnson. Did you find the Combine?

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, it was those were born what I was.

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Speaker 4: A good time. I was never bored. I didn't think

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Speaker 4: I have in basketball three on three one of my

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Speaker 6: That's right, I did.

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Speaker 3: No, not not like that, Like of course you've had to,

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Speaker 6: That or whatever.

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Speaker 3: But nothing that serious as in what I heard happened

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Speaker 2: Of a.

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Speaker 1: He's a lover, not a fighter. Hey, there you go.

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Alexander from The Chronicle. One more for you, What

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Speaker 2: It's consistent with what we reported.

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Speaker 2: But at the very least, you know, the technics are

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Speaker 3: And the one point in emphasis I was a little

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Speaker 2: We did not report that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Mike Tolman has emphasized that to multiple people,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like if you just read the story, it never

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Speaker 1: It doesn't get clicks, Johnny doesn't get clicks if you

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Speaker 4: It's not sexy, like this combine was This combine wasn't sexy.

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Speaker 4: That's a better way to put it, other than I

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was funny because I went.

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Speaker 6: I was like, man, they're looking for a round two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're hoping to see they went round two. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: never mind, the bars. Don't look at a coffee joint

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Speaker 3: Like I mentioned throughout what I was hearing from the combine,

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Speaker 6: My gosh, thank goodness.

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Speaker 1: We have a quarterback, but not all teams do have

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Speaker 1: So let's get into it. Two teams in the AFC

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Speaker 1: Back to it here on Texans Radio, Mark Vandermere and

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Speaker 6: We just had Jonathan Alexander on.

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Speaker 1: We had Mike Toman, new president of the Texans on

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Speaker 6: Go? No? Okay, next topic, he's older.

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Speaker 1: We talked about it with Jonathan, but he's thirty two

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Speaker 4: No, it's it's not. And look, I think Devonte can

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Speaker 6: Right, So look, could you put.

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Speaker 4: And if I remember correctly, CJ Stroud, I want to

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Speaker 6: That's always the thing.

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Speaker 4: a thirty two year old wide receiver that's not quite

445
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Speaker 4: what he used to be.

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Speaker 6: I and I can only really get.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's kind of as I've heard Sean use

448
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Speaker 4: this phrasing, that's your splurge if you go out and

449
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Speaker 4: get the Vanta Adams. And I'm like, I don't I

450
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Speaker 4: don't know that I want to splurge. I don't know

451
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Speaker 4: that I want to go to Tiffany and get one

452
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Speaker 4: diamond bracelet and be done with it, because I feel

453
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Speaker 4: like I need to go to I don't know Target

454
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Speaker 4: and get a few things. I need some kitchen equipment,

455
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Speaker 4: I need some groceries. I might even need a prescription

456
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Speaker 4: or two.

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Speaker 1: That was quite the drop off in retail establishments I got.

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Speaker 1: But I just I couldn't think of splurge and not

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Speaker 1: I might have been something in between there.

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Speaker 6: But I get. I get people think targets a splurge.

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Speaker 4: I think it sometimes, and sometimes inflation tells you it is.

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Speaker 6: It's not the least expensive place.

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Speaker 4: But I mean, you agree with me with that in

464
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Speaker 4: the sense that, yeah, I mean you want Avanta Adams

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Speaker 4: to be your splur Sure it would be sexy. The

466
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Speaker 4: fans like, ye, DeVante Adams, this is awesome, but I

467
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Speaker 4: feel like you can get a receiver and another player.

468
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Speaker 4: I said this a long time ago about about nomdi

469
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Speaker 4: Asim Wah. This is always my pushback when people want

470
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Speaker 4: an omnia Asim Whall back in twenty eleven, I'm like, look,

471
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Speaker 4: you can go out and get an ambi Asthen Wall,

472
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Speaker 4: but you get an ambi asmen Wall.

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Speaker 6: That's your splurge. Or or you can get Jonathan Joseph

474
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Speaker 6: and Daniel Manning. Daniel Manning, Yeah, wouldn't you rather have?

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Speaker 1: That's a very notable moment in the history of the franchise.

476
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Speaker 1: And really at the time, the top free agent act

477
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Speaker 1: was his shuns and it's really a Shotata Joseph would

478
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Speaker 1: be number one.

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Speaker 4: It's really shaped the way that I look at free agency,

480
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Speaker 4: and I think it. You know, people tell you, you know,

481
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Speaker 4: don't buy the richest house in the neighborhood, or whatever

482
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Speaker 4: the case might be, something like that. I think it's

483
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Speaker 4: kind of the same way a free agency, Like you

484
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Speaker 4: don't get the richest guy, do you can you find

485
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Speaker 4: somebody that can give you maybe eighty five to ninety

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Speaker 4: percent of what that guy can give you. Yeah, at

487
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Speaker 4: sixty percent that costs and they get somebody else on

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Speaker 4: top of that. And so that's kind of the way

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Speaker 4: that I would look at it. You know, his team

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Speaker 4: is not quite like one player away Monty Adams would

491
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Speaker 4: make a big impact, But I think there are a

492
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Speaker 4: couple of pieces that are needed. And I think can

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Speaker 4: you find about the Adams in this draft, not immediately,

494
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Speaker 4: but not drafting a guy getting that immediate benefit, But

495
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Speaker 4: I do think you get benefits from a younger receiver,

496
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Speaker 4: and I like what this receiver group has, especially after

497
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Speaker 4: looking at the combine testing you're putting it all together, man,

498
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Speaker 4: I think there are definite options to look at that

499
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Speaker 4: may not be devouta Adams, but you're not gonna pay

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Speaker 4: twenty million a year either.

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Speaker 1: It's Digs like. But the thing is Digs was a

502
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Speaker 1: different sort of deal. It turned into a one year deal.

503
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Speaker 1: And when you're paying i'll call it max dollars, which

504
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Speaker 1: is an NBA term in a position group to two

505
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Speaker 1: different players, especially in the wide receiver position group, that's

506
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Speaker 1: a red flag. Nicocollins restructuring or not is going to

507
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Speaker 1: make a lot of money. So you look at DeVante

508
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Speaker 1: Adams as big investment and probably wants a multi year

509
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Speaker 1: deal that maybe you don't want to spend that much

510
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Speaker 1: on right now. So let's just table it there and

511
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Speaker 1: maybe things happen. Surprises always happened with Nick Cassario, know this, Yeah,

512
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Speaker 1: And we're talking about it with Jonathan. How are we

513
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Speaker 1: going to feel after day one a free agency? And

514
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Speaker 1: you know we'll be live Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, we'll be

515
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Speaker 1: talking about all the acquisitions even before they become official,

516
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Speaker 1: because we can do that based on reports, based on

517
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Speaker 1: reports anyway, allegedly they have well like the Neil Hunter

518
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Speaker 1: last year. That was such a celebration moment that Tuesday

519
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Speaker 1: night show we did during the legal tampering period.

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Speaker 6: Oh I love that, all right.

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Speaker 1: The Texans' success in twenty twenty five or any season

522
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Speaker 1: is based on first and foremost win your division.

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Speaker 6: Right, So here's where I'm going with this. In the AFC.

524
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Speaker 1: South, we have two teams where a quarterback acquisition is

525
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Speaker 1: going to be utterly key to their threat to unseat

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Speaker 1: the Texans as division champions. One would be Tennessee because

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Speaker 1: and we'll hear from Dave mcginnison segment three. He's the

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Speaker 1: color commentator for the Titans, former NFL head coach and

529
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Speaker 1: assistant coach coach in the league for thirty one years.

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Speaker 1: You'll hear from him on his thoughts on the number

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Speaker 1: one overall selection in this draft for the Tennessee Titans

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Speaker 1: and what he's thinking. But we're thinking maybe quarterback, maybe not,

533
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Speaker 1: because they have a lot of needs. And also the

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts, because yes, Anthony Richardson is still there, but

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Speaker 1: we all know that the backup quarterback position in Indy

536
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Speaker 1: is just as important because he's gonna play. Let's just

537
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Speaker 1: look at the track record here likely to play whoever

538
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Speaker 1: they sign a backup quarterback. Joe Flacco is a free agent.

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Speaker 1: He played for them last year. Before that, it was

540
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Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew. Both quarterbacks played a ton for that franchise.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they're gonna do this here. Sam

542
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Speaker 1: Ellinger is still on the roster. So here are according

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Speaker 1: to spot track.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 1: Spot track they track salaries, contracts, sales of a Twitter

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Speaker 1: account and they put out a tweet notable quote available.

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Speaker 1: They put that in quotes because these guys aren't necessarily

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Speaker 1: automatically available, but they're available via trade or as free agents.

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Speaker 6: Okay, are you ready for this.

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Speaker 1: Gauge for me who might end up in this division

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Speaker 1: for either team. Okay, I'm gonna read names. Sam Donald

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Speaker 1: is number one on this list. Let me read you

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Speaker 1: a tweet. Okay, this is from Daniel Jeremiah earlier today

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Speaker 1: at Move the Sticks on Twitter X. If Sam Donald

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Speaker 1: gets to the market, I'd be very curious to see if,

556
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Speaker 1: wait for it, the Indianapolis courts got involved. Okay, things

557
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Speaker 1: I don't want to see. I don't want to see that.

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Speaker 1: I just got a little chill. Yeah, thinking about that.

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Speaker 4: I think he's a clear upgrade for a team that

560
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Speaker 4: needs to win right now. Sam Donald becomes the modern

561
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Speaker 4: day Steve de Burgh, like a good Steve de Burg.

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Speaker 6: Okay, like a guy who's babysitting the guy.

563
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Speaker 1: And Wiberg always was the guy before the guy. Yeah,

564
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Speaker 1: for kids. He was there in Denver with l Way.

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Speaker 6: He was with the Bucks with Vinnie Montana, she was

566
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Speaker 6: with Montana San Francisco. Yeah. So he was always the

567
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Speaker 6: guy before the guy. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And so maybe Donald's that he was actually a pretty

569
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Speaker 4: good player to Burn. I mean, I would much rather

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Speaker 4: Sam Donald just straight up go to Tennessee, indianapou Do

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Speaker 4: you not want to see that, dude, Indianappa.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't need that Shane Steiking, not with Shane

573
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Speaker 1: Steik and Jonathan Taylor handing off to him throwing to

574
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Speaker 1: those receivers.

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Speaker 6: After what he did in Minnesota, they draft Tyler Warren

576
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Speaker 6: a tight end or yeah, yeah, I don't like that

577
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Speaker 6: at all.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Jeremiah all right, so we don't want to see that.

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Speaker 1: Another quote available, QB. Now he's going to be expensive. Kirk, Cousins,

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see him in the division. Kirk's going

581
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Speaker 1: to help. So Kirk goes to Indianapolis somehow, just just

582
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Speaker 1: go with it somehow, Cousins in India.

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Speaker 6: You're not scared, You're not worried. Sexy Hasselbeck.

584
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 4: That should be a good that'd be a good band name.

585
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 4: Sexy hassele Beck. To me, he's sexy hassle Beck. You

586
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 4: know where without Mantezuma's revenge. Yeah, that's right. He doesn't scare.

587
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 4: I mean, not against our pass rush. Okay, I don't.

588
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 4: I don't fear that, but I think it's going to

589
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 4: be in play. I think it's going to play well

590
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 4: if he's outright release. But the cap hit is gigantic

591
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 4: it's right. They need a trade partners willing to suck

592
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 4: up some of the Southards. It's going to be really tough.

593
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 4: That's that tough because.

594
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Speaker 6: But it will yield.

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00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know it sounds like, you know,

596
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Speaker 4: it sounds like what twenty seventeen brock oswider deal.

597
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Speaker 6: Oh really, Okay, a number two pick.

598
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 4: Just to keep in mind, we gave a number two

599
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Speaker 4: pick right for the Browns to take.

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Speaker 6: To get out from out of the contract. That's exactly right.

601
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Speaker 1: So the Falcons send a number two and cousins somewhere.

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Speaker 6: It might not be enough. That's a big deal. That's

603
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Speaker 6: a huge deal. But that's how we got out of

604
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Speaker 6: from the under the Bronx deal, right, Okay. Aaron Rodgers

605
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Speaker 6: a genius. Aaron Rodgers in the division.

606
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Speaker 4: Possibly Aaron Rodgers back in December.

607
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Speaker 6: He was back in December. He was on McAfee and.

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Speaker 4: They were they were doing that kind of passive aggressive

609
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 4: thing talking about Nashville. Yeah, and you listen and go, Okay,

610
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Speaker 4: that makes it seem like he's looking at Nashville as

611
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Speaker 4: a possibility, the Tennessee Titans as a possibility.

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Speaker 6: I don't. I mean, apparently he's got a home there

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Speaker 6: in Nashville.

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Speaker 4: But I mean, these guys have so much money now,

615
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,959
Speaker 4: they can have homes everywhere. When he's got a home

616
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 4: at Quarterly and Idaho's he wants to play for the Seahawks, right,

617
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 4: because that's the closest day.

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Speaker 6: I don't know whatever.

619
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Speaker 4: I for some reason, I just don't see Tennessee. I

620
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 4: could see Tennessee.

621
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Speaker 1: I don't see him wanting to do it. Johnny doesn't

622
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: want to go to all That's what I'm losing you.

623
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Speaker 4: But if I'm Tennessee, I'm sitting here going, hey, look,

624
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 4: we get Rogers for a year, right, and then we

625
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 4: draft Abdul Carter, and then the top of the second

626
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 4: round we get Ewers or mill Row or you know somebody.

627
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: Excited That offense is going to move to football. Even

628
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Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers. We just saw it with the Jets.

629
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Speaker 4: Kennett offensive line protect him, and I don't they can't

630
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 4: that right side.

631
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Speaker 6: We'll hear from coaching a little bit. Coach McGinnis.

632
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Speaker 4: He doesn't really mince words, but I'll tell you that

633
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 4: offensive line on the left side, it'll be okay eventually.

634
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:11,719
Speaker 6: JC Latham and Peter Scarans.

635
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: What about Rogers and Indy. Would they do it? Does

636
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: that feel kind of like? I mean, if he's there,

637
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: he's starting, Oh, and they're saying to Richardson, learn from

638
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: this guy. We're gonna do it for a year and

639
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: then you get the fourth year as a possibility of playing.

640
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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know that i'd want Aaron Rodgers

641
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Speaker 4: in Indie, but I could see them getting involved.

642
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Okay, I like that.

643
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't like that, but I'll say not like it

644
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: meaning that could be successful. Yeah, because that offensive line

645
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: still has some juice, it's still pretty good. They'll keep

646
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: him up right, and he's got enough weapons to throw

647
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: to and spread the ball around.

648
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Speaker 6: But here's what we don't know about Aaron Rodgers. But

649
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 6: we don't know.

650
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 4: We don't know how Aaron Rodgers would do in any way,

651
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 4: shape or form with some other offense coordinator that's not

652
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 4: tangentially connected.

653
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 6: To the Green Bay Packers. Yeah. True.

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00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: Is he gonna be happy there with Shane Steikit running

655
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: the show?

656
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:09,959
Speaker 2: Right?

657
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 6: Will he say I gotta bringthel Is he gonna run

658
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 6: rough shot?

659
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 4: Is he gonna be like, hey, Ballard, you need to

660
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 4: go get Al Lazard and Randall Cobb and all that

661
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 4: and that's okay.

662
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 6: I don't know that he's gonna be able.

663
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 4: To call his shots like that, so I don't think

664
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 4: it's gonna.

665
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Speaker 6: Fit Faaron Rodgers. Tennessee would probably be a better fit

666
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 6: for him.

667
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: All right, So we're doing the two teams in the

668
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: AFC South that are likely looking for quarterbacks. Obviously not Jacksonville,

669
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: but when you talk about Tennessee, yeah, Levis is there

670
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: and Indianapolis, you know the backup's gonna play in all likelihood.

671
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: All Right, here we go continuing on this list of

672
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: quote available that's in quotes because some of these guys

673
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: are under contract, but they're gettable for teams that want quarterbacks.

674
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: And thank god we have a quarterback anyway, Russell Wilson

675
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: that could work somewhere, that could be you know, he

676
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: was good for a bit and then it the wheels

677
00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: completely came off. Last four or five games for the Steelers.

678
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: Fields is on this list too, So go both of

679
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: those guys. I know they're different, but I think they're

680
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: both done. I think Russell's done, done, done, done, done

681
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: out done. Yeah, not playing the last half of that season.

682
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 4: I didn't get anything from what like there's I just

683
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 4: can't see it.

684
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: Would he take a backup job? No, okay, I just

685
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: don't think you would. Would he need his own office?

686
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 6: He's mister unlimited. You think he's taking a backup job, Well,

687
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 6: some backup.

688
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 4: Mister unmediatedn take backup jobs.

689
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess I don't see it. He's gonna he's

690
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 6: gonna want to be the starter. I don't. I don't

691
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 6: see it now.

692
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 7: I'm not.

693
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 6: I'm not.

694
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson has always struck me as a good guy

695
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 4: and a good dude. But in your mind, if you're

696
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 4: a starter and you're still in your play, you're gonna

697
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 4: want to be a starter and still thinking you play.

698
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, this is purely hypothetical. We

699
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: don't know. Has Nick gotten calls on Davis Mills? Davis

700
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: Mills under contract. It's a one year deal, right because

701
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: last year was or four, so last year was here four. Yep,

702
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: he signed a one year extension for this year. Has

703
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: Nick gotten calls on him?

704
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 6: I gary, He's probably got a couple of calls. Yeah,

705
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 6: he's probably got a couple of calls.

706
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 4: There are teams that need quarterbacks that are looking at

707
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 4: all kinds of things, And I mean, if a team,

708
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 4: if a team could somehow get Davis on the cheap, like, yeah,

709
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 4: bring him in, let him compete. Dude, he started in

710
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 4: the league. I mean, I've said I said this throughout

711
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 4: last year. I said in the preseason, I said it

712
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty three. I feel like Davis has improved

713
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 4: every time he's gone on the field.

714
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Speaker 6: And you could see it in that game against the Titans.

715
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Speaker 4: Tit's the other number one d in the field, and

716
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 4: he looked pretty good. Yeah, and you know he didn't

717
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 4: have Nico out there, he didn't have Tank out there.

718
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 4: You know, he didn't have his guys out there. So

719
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Speaker 4: I would think that Nick has probably gotten a call

720
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Speaker 4: about Davis Mills. Now, is it to be the bona

721
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 4: fide number one starter in jets Land or Tennessee or wherever. No,

722
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 4: but to be in a competition somewhere, to be part

723
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Speaker 4: of the mix.

724
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I could. I could see him having gotten calls. Yeah, absolutely.

725
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: All right, So this list of quote available quarterbacks, either

726
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: under contract or free agents that are gettable for teams

727
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: that want quarterbacks, it gets less sexy as we get

728
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 1: deeper into it, all right, So quick thumb nails here, Garoppolo, No, No,

729
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 1: in the division for Tennessee or indian No Brissette, He's

730
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: been there, done that. Jameis Winston, no way. Daniel Jones

731
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: probably not really.

732
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 6: I don't know how much money he's gonna want.

733
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 4: But I think Indianapolis, you know, because there are about

734
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones.

735
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 6: He can run like he's a really.

736
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 4: Good athlete, but he can also fumble. He can fumble them,

737
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 4: and he can also not throw the ball very well.

738
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 4: But I think they would protect him a lot better

739
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 4: in Indianapolis than they would with the New York Giants.

740
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 4: So and look, change the scenery opportunity. I could see

741
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 4: Indianapolis being a fit for Daniel Jones, not not Tennessee.

742
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: I got one for you, Gardner, Minshee, baby, go for

743
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: the trifecta Colts.

744
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 6: And now the Titan. He'd be like Danik Audrey.

745
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, he would have hit every team that Nick Audrey,

746
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 4: although Autrey was Titans and not Jags.

747
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 6: But I don't want to see him here. Well, I'd

748
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 6: like Minshew.

749
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 1: He'd be if Mills couldn't be our backup Minshew as

750
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: a backup, sign me up for that we get to

751
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: interview him.

752
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 4: That means he would have to go back to Indianapolis,

753
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 4: which I guess he'd be okay with. I don't know,

754
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 4: but I don't see Mischew in Tennessee because if Mischig

755
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 4: goes to Tennessee, Basically, if Mitschew went to Tennessee, you

756
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 4: got to kick Will Lewis to the curb because you're

757
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 4: not gonna have a quarterback situation that's got rookie or

758
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 4: you know somebody. No, they compete Will Levis. You let

759
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 4: Levis and Minshew compete to be the number two.

760
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: Wait, you're in charge of the Titans right now. I'm

761
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: putting you in charge of the Titans. You have Will

762
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: Levis under contract heading into year three. That makes me sad. Okay,

763
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: why are you doing that for me?

764
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 6: What are you gonna do? A quarterback? What are you

765
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 6: gonna do? Number one?

766
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: And we'll ask Dave McGinnis that in the next segment.

767
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: But what are you gonna do.

768
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 4: If aren't a If Donald becomes available, I go that direction.

769
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 6: I draft Abdul Carter and then the second round on hey, Donald,

770
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 6: Johnny's not coming to Tennessee on the no, but I'm

771
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 6: pretty sure he's gonna have the Titans have cash.

772
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 1: I think if I'm Donald I'm not well, I might

773
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: if I if I like Callahan and whatever, I.

774
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 4: Mean, making a short year, a short deal three for

775
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 4: one twenty the Bregman deal. Do there deal Bregman deal

776
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 4: three and forty mili and will come in Levis, you're

777
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 4: definitely number two. Sam at your ballgame, will draft Abdul

778
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 4: Carter help the defense and put him on the outside.

779
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 4: Defense just got a whole lot stronger with Jeffery Simmons

780
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 4: to Andre Sweat. And then I draft I do the

781
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 4: I do what they did with Levis. I draft the

782
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 4: guy that's a better quarterback than Levis.

783
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 6: Maybe, I mean, I don't know, maybe you go kind

784
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 6: of wild card there.

785
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: Maybe if they give it up on Levis, like not

786
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: that they want to make him still art or day one,

787
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: But in a competition scenario, let's bring in another guy

788
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: who might be something, and we'll have him compete with

789
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: that guy.

790
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 4: Let's put a starting job. Let's use Davis Mills as

791
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 4: an example. Okay, because Davis started the first couple of

792
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 4: years right, and then okay, we gotta go out and

793
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 4: get a quarterback.

794
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 6: We get CJ. Davis's bumped back to number two.

795
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 4: And all Davis did was just work his butt off

796
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 4: to become a really good quarterback in the NFL. And really,

797
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 4: if CJ has to go out for any reason and

798
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 4: Davis goes in, I feel okay with that. Now, can

799
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 4: Levis accept that? Can Levis accept Yeah, I'm gonna work

800
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 4: my tail off. I'm gonna help the starter in every way,

801
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 4: shape or form. But I know him the backup. I'm

802
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 4: gonna learn football. I'm gonna just get better, be in

803
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 4: the NFL, get smarter, and maybe and that's the role

804
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 4: he takes until he gets another opportunity. So I think

805
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 4: Donald with Davis Mill, I'm sorry, Donald, what am I doing?

806
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 4: I'm not trading Davis and Tennessee? Don't Donald with Levis?

807
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 4: With the receivers that are there in Tennessee, Donald, the

808
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 4: one Levis to two draft the rookie to compete. Maybe

809
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 4: that rookie bumps out Levis and rock and roll.

810
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 1: I've got the perfect guy if I'm running the Titans, Okay,

811
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 1: and I've got Will Levis still obviously, and I don't

812
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 1: like these quarterbacks.

813
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 6: I might say I like.

814
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: Draft Yeah, I don't really want to spend that kind

815
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: of draft capital on these quarterbacks. Right, here's what I

816
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: do I go get and put him in a competition

817
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: with Levis Zach Wilson.

818
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 6: Hear me out, hear me out. Who was Sam Donald before?

819
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 1: Now he's hot, Sam Donald the Jets bust quarterback. Now

820
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: I got Zach Wilson in the same situation he went

821
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: to Denver? Right, Yeah, how do year under Peyton? Got

822
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: a little Peyton Magic going as a backup? Right now,

823
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: I can bring him. I don't even know if he's

824
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: under contractor now, but he's on this list that spot

825
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: track has his quote available quarterbacks gettable, he's gettable. I'll

826
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: get him for nothing, and I'll put him in there.

827
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: And you go compete, Zach Wilson, and keep from all

828
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: your friend's moms, and you compete for the starting job,

829
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: and maybe, just maybe we find magic in Nashville. Not

830
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: a bad idea. I think it's hard to sell to

831
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: the fans. Like and by the way, get your PSLs

832
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: for the new stadium.

833
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 4: You put the three quarterbacks on your ticket, and your

834
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 4: tickets so your three quarter No I'm going I'm putting

835
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 4: Eddie George back on the ticket.

836
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 6: I put it.

837
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 4: I think that's reasonable. Look at you know how I

838
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 4: feel about these quarterbacks in the draft.

839
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,919
Speaker 6: I don't know how crazy. I don't really love them.

840
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 6: Kem mord says, you you're wrong, but he's one of them.

841
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 4: I think Cam's I think Cam's a good college quarterback

842
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 4: that needs to develop, uh quickly to become that guy

843
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 4: in NFL.

844
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: Let let me give you another guy who used to

845
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: like I think, who's never been able to really get

846
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: the opportunity, just always gotten hurt when he's had it,

847
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: Trey Lance. You put Trey Lance in a competitive situation

848
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: with somebody, maybe you finally find that magic. He just

849
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: hasn't played enough football. Yeah, he hasn't gotten really the

850
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: opportunity to play football.

851
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 4: Everybody kind of made their own assessment after like, you know,

852
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 4: eighty minutes of football basically in his career, and look

853
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 4: that he got hurt.

854
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 6: You know it happens. I'm telling the guy that played

855
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 6: against us in.

856
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 4: Twenty twenty one the amount of adjustment and improvement he

857
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 4: made throughout a game, throughout a game, said, this guy's

858
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 4: got something, but I think his confidence is just I

859
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 4: absolutely I would fire on Trey Lance if having one

860
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 4: of those competitives in one of those quarterback situations and

861
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 4: just give them the opportunity to play, let him play.

862
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 4: Problem is you gotta get Donald Ready. Say it's Tennessee,

863
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 4: you gotta get Donald Ready, and that that's that's tough

864
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 4: because maybe it takes away from the reps that twos

865
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 4: and threes are gonna end up getting. So I don't

866
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 4: know if Tennessee would end up in a situation, but

867
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 4: I absolutely am not giving up on Trey Lance and

868
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 4: Zach Wilson too.

869
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 6: Zach hat some good things in twenty twenty three when

870
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 6: he's with the Jets, including beat Your.

871
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 1: Beloved all Right, Well, hear from Dave McGuinness about the

872
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans quarterback situation and his thoughts on other things

873
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 1: around the NFL. Coached in the league for thirty one years,

874
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: he's coming up next here on Texans Radio final segment,

875
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: Some Combine content for you. Dave McGinnis, former NFL head coach,

876
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: coached in the league for thirty one years and is

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Speaker 1: the Titans radio color commentator. We talked with him about

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Speaker 1: many things, including but not limited to, who are the

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Speaker 1: Titans going to take at number one?

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Speaker 5: They've got so many different ways they could go, and

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Speaker 5: Mike Morganzi came in and you know, revamping the whole thing,

882
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Speaker 5: and when you look at it, I've only been involved

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Speaker 5: in one number one quarterback in my thirty one year

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Speaker 5: of coaching career, of vetting and doing this when when

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Speaker 5: we moved from Saint Louis to LA and we made

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Speaker 5: the trade with the Titans, yep, to move up get

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Speaker 5: Jared Goff because we you know, we had had Sam

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Speaker 5: Bradford with us then his knees just wouldn't hold up.

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Speaker 5: So we with the move to LA, we needed a

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Speaker 5: new We needed a new quarterback. We had you know,

891
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Speaker 5: Case Kingdom. You know, it's a great bridge. You know,

892
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Speaker 5: we love Case, but we knew that that was not

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Speaker 5: gonna be forever. And so being involved in that process,

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Speaker 5: I mean, it was pretty interesting. We ended up vetting

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Speaker 5: two guys, Jared Goff and Carson Wentz, and do an

896
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Speaker 5: extensive amount of vetting. We were in Oxnard, California at

897
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Speaker 5: the time, because you know, when the with the move,

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Speaker 5: we were out there in Oxnard for five and a

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Speaker 5: half months. So anyway, I mean, it was a deep

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Speaker 5: process and that's the thing that they'll go through now.

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Speaker 5: The only other quarterbacks I've ever been involved in, you know,

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Speaker 5: as a coach, was in Chicago when we replaced drafted

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Speaker 5: Jim Harborough out of Michigan in the first round to

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Speaker 5: replace McMahon.

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Speaker 7: And then clearly when I was head coach.

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Speaker 5: At Arizona, I was involved with Jake Plumber, you know,

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Speaker 5: vetting Jake Plumber and getting him him in there, and

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Speaker 5: then to follow him up Josh McCown.

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Speaker 1: Boy, I have questions on all these guys. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if we want to go with that.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna want I'm gonna ask, maybe the easiest and

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Speaker 4: most difficult question potentially, coach, will they go quarterback in

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Speaker 4: number one?

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Speaker 7: I have no idea.

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Speaker 6: I mean, what's your guts say?

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Speaker 7: I have no idea.

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Speaker 5: I don't because they have they have so many needs

918
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Speaker 5: on this football team. Do they need a quarterback? Absolutely

919
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Speaker 5: they do, But do they need a lot of other things?

920
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Speaker 5: You just don't win three games because you you just

921
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Speaker 5: need one person, right, I mean, that's just the way

922
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Speaker 5: this that's just the way this league is set up.

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Speaker 5: And it's cyccle as it is. Well, you guys are

924
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Speaker 5: a great example of it. You pull the trigger on

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Speaker 5: a quarterback and all of a sudden, you know, it

926
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Speaker 5: kind of slots it. But you have to have a

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Speaker 5: lot of other things in place. But look, as long

928
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Speaker 5: as I've been in this, I know the line of demarcation.

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Speaker 5: They give me so much grace there. I mean, it's

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Speaker 5: it's great, But I also know a line that don't cross.

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Speaker 5: Go hey, we all do it, right, You just don't

932
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Speaker 5: do that. You guys don't do it.

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Speaker 1: You almost don't want to know because then you're going

934
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Speaker 1: to have to be sort of covering it up.

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Speaker 7: And that's a great point. No, no, And I'm not

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Speaker 7: going to ever lie to anybody, But I don't you know,

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Speaker 7: that's not that's that's not the line that I stand

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Speaker 7: in anymore.

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Speaker 6: Sure do you think they know? Do you think they

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Speaker 6: know who that?

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Speaker 7: I don't think yet.

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Speaker 5: I don't think yet, because they've got a new group together,

943
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Speaker 5: and also they got to evaluate what's on hand.

944
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Speaker 7: Talking about Ganz, he was very open about it.

945
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Speaker 5: They went a dark February where they were from seven

946
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Speaker 5: in the morning till midnight going over all the players

947
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Speaker 5: in this draft.

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Speaker 7: Because you know, they got a new group sure coming together,

949
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Speaker 7: and you just have to do that.

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Speaker 5: I've done it twice in my career, you know, gone

951
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Speaker 5: dark like that because changing, you know, an entire staff

952
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Speaker 5: and changing the you know, the whole thing. But I

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Speaker 5: don't think they know. I don't think they know yet.

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Speaker 5: They're working it in a very linear progression. There's no

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Speaker 5: reason to make a definitive answer right now. You need

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Speaker 5: to start making decisions to get on a path towards.

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Speaker 7: That, but not right now.

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Speaker 1: Dave McGinnis, former NFL coach, Titans radio color commentator joining

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Speaker 1: us Will Levis, is their hope still? What would you

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Speaker 1: do as a coach to help fix him and get

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Speaker 1: him going in the right way.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm a guru, and a lot of things in

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Speaker 5: this league, quarterback is not one of them. I mean

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Speaker 5: it's but but it's seriously to answer that question. He's

965
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Speaker 5: got the physical capability. He just made too many bad

966
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Speaker 5: dec decisions last year. He made too many bad decisions

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Speaker 5: in the heat of battle that you know, we're very

968
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Speaker 5: costly and your rope now in this league.

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Speaker 7: You guys have been at this a long time.

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Speaker 5: So if your rope is so short in this league,

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Speaker 5: he's not a first round pick.

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Speaker 7: You've got some money in him, not not a huge amount.

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Speaker 5: He's still got two years left on a rookie contract.

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Speaker 5: Is there still hope for him? Absolutely? But he's going

975
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Speaker 5: to have to earn it back because he was given

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Speaker 5: a really big opportunity and he just didn't cash in

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Speaker 5: on it.

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Speaker 7: I mean that's just you know, that's just being honest. Now,

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Speaker 7: is it a lost cause? Absolutely not.

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Speaker 5: I mean let's look at Sam Darnold. I mean, how

981
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Speaker 5: many years was you know, here's a here's a first

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Speaker 5: round up, you know pick.

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Speaker 7: People are saying, well, that's he's done.

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Speaker 5: Well, it takes it takes a little time to soak

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Speaker 5: in that position.

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Speaker 7: But is he a lost cause? No? Did he have

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Speaker 7: a bad year? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Coach Dave McGinnis joining US Titans Radio, What do you

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Speaker 1: make of Jacksonville brat pack?

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Speaker 6: Young guys running the show now?

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Speaker 1: BISSELLI overseeing everything that structure and where they might be head.

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Speaker 7: I talked to Maselli yesterday. He's excited about that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's a it's a good move

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Speaker 5: the you know, the youth movement. I mean, they've got

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Speaker 5: guys in their first time doing at every position, right,

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Speaker 5: they really do. I mean that that's what But guys,

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Speaker 5: you know, I've been at this long enough and if

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Speaker 5: that's the trend you decide to go in.

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Speaker 7: Well, then you go all in on it.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm involved in that accelerator program trying to

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Speaker 5: get you know, young.

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Speaker 7: Guys new chances in this league because I was.

1003
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Speaker 5: You know, at one time, myself, Belichick and Jeff Fish

1004
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 5: were the youngest coaches in the league because you only

1005
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Speaker 5: had eight coaches on a staff, right, seven or eight. Well,

1006
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Speaker 5: now we've got up to thirty coaches on a staff,

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Speaker 5: and so younger guys are coming into the league at

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Speaker 5: a bigger number.

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Speaker 4: So whenever you look at the flip card and you

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Speaker 4: look down at the coaches and it's like font is

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Speaker 4: six and you got to pull out the readers to

1012
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Speaker 4: look at it, You're like, Okay, that's a lot of coaches.

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Speaker 6: That's a lot.

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Speaker 7: I look at it.

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Speaker 5: Hired I was the eighth coach on the staff and

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Speaker 5: he had to let me borrow one of his lockers

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Speaker 5: in the real small dressing room there that you know

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Speaker 5: in Lake Forest, because only had ten slots for coaching.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, there's our visit with Dave McGinnis from Titans Radio.

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Speaker 6: That's it for the show.

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Speaker 1: This will all be available in podcast forms soon enough.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening. Area forty five coming up next.

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Speaker 1: Don't miss it Go Texans,