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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center.

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Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong is Joe, Ketty Armstrong and Katty and now he.

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Speaker 3: Armstrong and Yeddy. A whole civilization will die tonight, never

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Speaker 3: to be brought back again, so states the President of

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Speaker 3: the United States about Iran. The whole civilization will die tonight.

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Speaker 3: The cut off time for the civilization that has existed

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Speaker 3: for a couple of thousand years. It's going to end

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Speaker 3: on April the seventh, at eight pm Eastern. Yeah, they've

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Speaker 3: had a good run, so claims the President. So more

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Speaker 3: on that a little bit later this hour. It's it's

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Speaker 3: it's it's historic.

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Speaker 2: Man. I'm making light of it because it's so incredibly heavy. Well,

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Speaker 2: and this may be certainly in your top three threats

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Speaker 2: of all time. If you consider the size of the

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Speaker 2: threat times the capability of to make it come true,

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Speaker 2: that's a hell of a threat. So more on that

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Speaker 2: to come.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to take out every bridge and every

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Speaker 3: power plan. According to Trump, in four hours, we can

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Speaker 3: have them all taken out, he said. So okay, more

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Speaker 3: on that later.

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Speaker 2: Boy oh boy, a less weighty topic, but interesting in thought.

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Speaker 2: Provoking AI music ladies and gentlemen. Before we get to

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Speaker 2: the AI stuff, the soulful, soulful sounds of Eddie Dalton

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Speaker 2: Eddie doesn't exist all a computer.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: So I've been thinking lately, I come really into Olivia Dean,

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Speaker 3: right that album that she's fantastic just sing she she

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Speaker 3: did on the Grammys. Uh unless she was listening to did.

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Speaker 3: But one of the things is that one of the

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Speaker 3: sing that way and blah blah blah. That guy sounds

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Speaker 3: like a male Olivia Dean except for his not real

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Speaker 3: doesn't exist.

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Speaker 2: It appears to be a forty year old black man,

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Speaker 2: but he doesn't exist. All of it is generated by

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Speaker 2: a content farm run by Dallas ray Little out of Greenville,

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Speaker 2: South Carolina, who's already got dozens of these faux songs

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Speaker 2: and videos by different artists quote unquote on YouTube.

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Speaker 3: Why do you even claim it's a forty year old

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Speaker 3: black man. Why not claim it's a two year old

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Speaker 3: poodle or a coffee cup.

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Speaker 2: Well, now, if that was a dog that is worth

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Speaker 2: the money. I would go see that, or a coffee cup, yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 2: because either people aren't aware of it, or a dog.

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Speaker 3: I would go see that. I got Takens for the

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Speaker 3: show tonight, honey, a dog who sings like Sam.

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Speaker 2: Cook, or either people aren't aware of it, or he

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Speaker 2: just realizes. The barrier for entry for some people might

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Speaker 2: be wait, that's a computer. That's weird. But if he

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Speaker 2: gives them a human face for that Sam Cook meets

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Speaker 2: Chris Stapleton voice of his then people dig it.

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Speaker 3: Kidd.

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Speaker 4: The album cover is definitely believable, and this totally got

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Speaker 4: my mom. She loves his music and just found out

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Speaker 3: Legitimately bummed out. She's like, this wasn't this isn't even

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Speaker 3: a person. I would like to have that happen to me. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: it's always been introduced to me as AI to start with.

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Speaker 3: I would love to get into an album like I

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Speaker 3: got into the Olivia Dean stuff and then have somebody

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Speaker 3: say here's the catch, this is not real. This was

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Speaker 3: just me putting prompts on a computer. That would blow

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she said, Hopefully the guys will talk about Eddie

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Speaker 4: Dalton because I really love his music, and then I

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Speaker 3: That's where we all got to get and I haven't

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Speaker 3: gotten there yet, And I don't know if I can.

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Speaker 3: As a guy who practice as a musical instrument every

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Speaker 3: day in my life, do I get any enjoyment out

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Speaker 3: it not make any difference? It shouldn't make any difference,

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Speaker 2: I'd respond to that. Music has always been the nexus

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Speaker 2: between art and entertainment and commerce depending on the setting.

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Speaker 2: And if you remove the art from it other than

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Speaker 2: ability to recognize the computer got it right, then you've

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Speaker 2: just got entertainment and commerce, which for some people I

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Speaker 3: Why are you saying the artificial intelligent can create.

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Speaker 2: of art? Then that was a childlike argument by me,

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Speaker 2: and I apologize work. Well, it's it's not art because

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Speaker 2: it's the programming of the computer was art in a way.

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Speaker 2: It was astounding grasp of science.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, I'm thinking this through as I'm saying, and I

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Speaker 3: don't have the answer to it. Why is it not art?

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Speaker 3: Does the definition of art have to be a human expression?

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Speaker 2: Yes? I would say yes, although I'd certainly be willing

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Speaker 2: to hear a counter argument because it's such an interesting topic.

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Speaker 3: What if you can't tell? So? What if I'm listening

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Speaker 3: to what I think is a human expression, really enjoying it,

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Speaker 3: then I'm told that was a computer. Am I supposed

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Speaker 2: Art right, quote unquote, Sure, that's a great question.

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Speaker 3: Or a painting is even a better example. I'm looking

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Speaker 3: at it, really, you know, enjoy getting all those chemicals, frying, flying, sure,

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Speaker 3: buying off in your brain that you get when you

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Speaker 3: look at good art. But you're told that's made by

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Speaker 2: Aw, I gouge my eyes out. I'm so embarrassed. Wow,

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Speaker 2: you're punching your face. Your gouging your eyes? Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 2: I'd Actually I was trying to think last night of what,

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Speaker 2: like well known songwriters, I could actually get hold of

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Speaker 2: they're just a couple, because I'd love to write something

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Speaker 2: about creating music in the age of AI music creation

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Speaker 2: when I mean there are plenty. That's funny. I've joked

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Speaker 2: in the past, there are plenty of songs. There's no

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Speaker 2: need to write anymore. Uh, but people still do it

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Speaker 2: and enjoy it. It gives me joy to do it.

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Speaker 2: People like new music and that sort of thing I

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Speaker 2: think is wonderful. It's one of my favorite things in life, honestly.

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Speaker 2: But what does it mean now is I'm thinking of

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Speaker 2: a couple of my favorite songwriters. They're getting ready to

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Speaker 2: do their next album. Why just because they want to

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Speaker 2: get it out of them, they want to make the

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Speaker 2: very paltry sum of money it'll get them.

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Speaker 3: Well, I can't answer this question in my own head,

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Speaker 2: Yes, Michael, I think younger people aren't going to care.

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Speaker 2: Older people are going to hate this.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm guessing. I'm actually guessing. I don't

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Speaker 3: think unless you've got the human being to attach it

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Speaker 2: I think you're right. I don't know that you speak

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Speaker 2: for the shallow simpletons of the world, Katie.

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Speaker 4: You know, on Michael's point, there's been kind of this

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Speaker 4: weird transition of inserting technology into music in the last

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Speaker 3: And that kind So it's kind of like we've phased

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Speaker 4: I think maybe the younger generation is gonna just it's

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Speaker 4: just like computers and music are one in our But no,

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Speaker 3: I can't imagine that anybody's going to go to uh

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Speaker 4: They do already, they with these DJs h electronic music

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Speaker 4: that I mean, that's that's what it is. You go

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Speaker 3: A lot of light.

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Speaker 2: It's the Soul Rave featuring Eddie Dalton. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Here's another interesting angle of the whole AI thing. This

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Speaker 2: is a folks singer by the name of Murphy Campbell,

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Speaker 2: traditional folk, beautiful voice, but she brings up a problem.

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Speaker 5: My problem is AI generated music is just worsened exponentially.

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Speaker 5: I might try to catch all up on what happened,

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Speaker 5: because this is crazy, it's unprecedented, it's the wild West,

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Speaker 5: and it could happen to anyone. Roll On, an entity

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Speaker 5: called Timeless uploaded AI generated versions of my songs to

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Speaker 5: all major streaming platforms, and to do that, they fed

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Speaker 5: YouTube videos of me to an AI engine that then

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Speaker 5: mimicked my voice in playing. They used a distributor which

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Speaker 5: I just discovered, and that distributor's name is Video. They

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Speaker 5: used Video to upload all these AI generated songs, and

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Speaker 5: Video has since decided that it was going to make

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Speaker 5: copyright claims on all of the videos that were used

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Speaker 5: to feed the AI engine.

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Speaker 3: To sound like me.

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Speaker 2: So AI replicated her songs then filed copyright claims on them.

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Speaker 2: Roll On, Michael so.

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Speaker 5: Video has come forward and made copyright claims on my

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Speaker 5: YouTube page. And because YouTube has not personally reviewed these things,

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Speaker 5: I am no longer making money on YouTube videos, making

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Speaker 5: playing my own banjo in my own backyard with traditional

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Speaker 5: So I just wanted to update y'all, and I wanted

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Speaker 5: I can dispute it with video. Do you think video

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Speaker 5: that's a I generated music for y'all, and these are

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Speaker 5: the consequences of using it.

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Speaker 2: So I don't like the modern world. Well so a

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Speaker 3: It shouldn't be surprising that AI creates music that it's

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Speaker 3: lifted from other people. I mean, where else would it

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Speaker 3: get the idea? And it's like llm's that's what they are,

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Speaker 3: language learning models. They're going out there and grabbing everything

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Speaker 3: that's out there in the world and uh, you know,

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Speaker 3: spitting back whatever he ask you to do based on

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know how to quote unquote read an algorithm. Uh,

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Speaker 2: but like the voice of that Eddie little character like

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Speaker 2: you said that, that's like it's almost like a wine blend.

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Speaker 2: That's a forty percent Chris Stableton, forty percent Sam Cook

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Speaker 2: and ten percent of I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Lou rawls well, and you know, I don't see how

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Speaker 3: you'd ever be able to stop it legally because whatever

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Speaker 3: precedent you set. You know, these these trials that they've

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Speaker 3: had over the years where people get sued for you

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Speaker 3: stole my melody are often so stupid because there's eight

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Speaker 3: million songs with the same melody. There's only so many melodies.

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Speaker 3: But sometimes people win money and sometimes they don't. But

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Speaker 3: so if you if you do this with AI, well

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Speaker 3: then the AI, the creator will just say, Okay, the

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Speaker 3: government regulation is it can only be eleven percent of anything.

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Speaker 3: So we'll do ten point eight percent Sam Cook, and

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Speaker 3: ten point eight percent Chris Stableton, and another ten point

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Speaker 3: eight percent this and come up with our own thing

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Speaker 3: just to stay below the threshold for breaking the law.

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Speaker 3: I don't see how you'd ever change that.

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Speaker 2: Don't know. Music has changed over and over again as

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Speaker 3: So you've probably heard by now that Trump truthed out

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Speaker 3: but it probably will. So Mark halpern Is newsletter laid

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Speaker 2: As Ian Bremmer's outfit G Zero Daily put it, is

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Speaker 3: when it came to negotiation, Twitch was to veteran Trump

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Speaker 2: Interesting, speaking of the New York Times, there's a headline

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Speaker 3: Here are the arguments, facts and data that it won't

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Speaker 2: If two days later the Pakistani's announced, Hey, good news,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one of the arguments why this won't happen.

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Speaker 2: I could easily see Trump saying, are they there yet? Go?

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Speaker 2: Is necessary? And so how does that work? What levers

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Speaker 3: which is the better movie plot development? What is the

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Speaker 3: But I don't know. Canceling the Pentagon briefing, the fact

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Speaker 3: that we're bombing carg Island, the fact that Israel said

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Speaker 3: stay off the trains. There's a lot of things lining

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Speaker 3: up for kind of like you know, thirty eight days

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Speaker 3: ago when the attacks happened.

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Speaker 2: If he were to say progress has been made, giving

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Speaker 2: him another forty eight hours or whatever. What's going to

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Speaker 2: happen in those forty eight hours, though, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: just hoping things break in a productive way.

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Speaker 3: I guess I have no idea. What if Trump follows

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Speaker 3: through on this and takes out lots of bridges and

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Speaker 3: power plants and trains like Israel is saying, and thousands die,

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Speaker 3: not just by Iranian news agency standards, by it seems

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Speaker 3: pretty obvious. Thousands and thousands dime? Uh, how's the world

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Speaker 3: going to react? How's Congress going to react? How's America

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Speaker 3: going to react?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Boy? Those are three different questions, but none of

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Speaker 2: them are answered by the word just fine words.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how the market's going to react? That's my least concern,

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Speaker 3: because they go up, think of down.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, they'll bounce back by the zip Michael, I

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Speaker 2: request no, no, I demand clip fifty three tree yanngst.

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Speaker 6: But what's very interesting here. I spoke with a high

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Speaker 6: ranking source last night and I asked what happens next

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Speaker 6: if the President orders these strikes? And they said, again,

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Speaker 6: this is the Achilles' heel of the regime targeting energy infrastructure,

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Speaker 6: and what it may actually do is force their hand

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Speaker 6: at the negotiating table. Because again the President has time

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Speaker 6: and time again, even before Operation Epic Theory began, preferred

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Speaker 6: a diplomatic option, But the Iranians have been unwilling to

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Speaker 6: take a diplomatic option, and that is how we ended

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Speaker 6: up in this Operation Epic Theory that is unfolding before

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Speaker 6: our eyes as we speak.

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Speaker 2: But the President very.

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Speaker 6: Clearly on true social just moments ago, saying, however, now

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Speaker 6: that we have complete and total regime change, where different,

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Speaker 6: smarter and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something revolutionary, wonderful

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Speaker 6: can happen.

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Speaker 3: US officials, this is from the New York Times. Yous

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Speaker 3: officials have encountered all arguments that if Iran showed a

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Speaker 3: serious desire to end its nuclear program, it wouldn't have

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Speaker 3: triggered the war in the first place. The officials said

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Speaker 3: the US would face significant hurdles in getting Turan to

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Speaker 3: agree to a cease fire because the Iranian regime seedes

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Speaker 3: its survival is at stake and thinks that retrain retains

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Speaker 3: leverage over the US through the straight of horror moves.

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Speaker 3: That reminds me of the Eisenhower book that I'm reading.

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Speaker 3: Eisenhower was big on that Art of War book by

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Speaker 3: the ancient.

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Speaker 2: Japanese dude Chinese, Chinese do too racism right, Therefore, that's

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Speaker 2: just making a note.

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Speaker 3: That cornered beasts fighting for their lives are very dangerous.

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Speaker 3: And that is definitely where the reigning Revolutionary Garden and

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Speaker 3: the Mullas will be maybe are right now and certainly

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Speaker 3: will be tonight after the attacks.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the great Filipino General Sungsu actually said always

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Speaker 2: leave your opponents an escape route because cleaning up the

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Speaker 2: and'll be terrible.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, because obviously they are going to Iran,

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Speaker 3: will show no restraint if they think this is the

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Speaker 3: end that like in the end might be tonight. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Trump stated it's tonight. It's the end of a civilization.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. There's so much uncertainty in the road ahead,

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Speaker 2: including what would it take to actually crush the will

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Speaker 2: of the IRGC.

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Speaker 3: Nobody knows the answer to that question. I don't think

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Speaker 3: you can crush the will of the Mullas. They actually

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Speaker 3: believe that this is the purpose all up put them

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Speaker 3: on earth for, and that they are going to a

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Speaker 3: better place.

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Speaker 2: Because of this, right indeed, and that armagednon is the goal.

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Speaker 3: So how do you leave that crowd and escape route?

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Speaker 2: I think you gotta squash them.

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Speaker 3: Squash them like bugs.

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Speaker 2: Blow their beards off, blow their beard's off. It's an expression.

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Speaker 2: I got this incredible.

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Speaker 3: I know one thing. I'm going to be gathered around

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Speaker 3: the TV tonight five o'clock West Coast time. Holy crappings.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know.

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Speaker 3: I wonder what NBS wants.

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Speaker 2: Oh that I'd meant to mention that earlier. I had

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Speaker 2: missed this somehow when I was criticizing the President for

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Speaker 2: unnecessarily antagonizing our allies and I'm not talking about the

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Speaker 2: boot in the ass that they need to actually do

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Speaker 2: their share and get off their socialist sand added thrones.

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Speaker 2: But the other day he was in front of a

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Speaker 2: Saudi audience and he said, I bet you never thought

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Speaker 2: you'd have a leader who kissed my ass, o, which

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Speaker 2: you do not say about Himmy no, that apparently caused

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Speaker 2: extremely high levels of consternation offense.

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Speaker 3: I'm surprised Trump didn't know.

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Speaker 2: That was a bad idea because he lost his old

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Speaker 2: Van Felter.

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Speaker 3: He's a sales guy. He knows you got to make

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Speaker 3: everybody feel good about themselves. You can't. You make me

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Speaker 3: feel like a putts. I won't take a good deal.

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Speaker 2: But well, right, but that's what happened with the Denmark

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Speaker 2: Greenland thing.

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Speaker 3: True.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a real misstep. Why would you do that?

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Speaker 3: We need their helping an interesting day. We'll finish strong next.

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Speaker 1: A short time ago, we were together and he looked

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Speaker 1: at me and he said, you know, it's amazing. One

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Speaker 1: year ago you were a dead country. Now you're the

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Speaker 1: hottest country anywhere in the world.

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Speaker 2: He didn't think this was going to happen.

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Speaker 1: He didn't think he'd be kissing my ass.

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Speaker 3: He really didn't.

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Speaker 1: He thought he'd be just another American president that was

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Speaker 1: a loser where the country is going downhill. But now

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Speaker 1: he has to be nice to me. You tell him

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Speaker 1: he'd better be nice to me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got to be. That doesn't work on NBS.

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Speaker 3: That was a mistake. Oh boy, that was a mistake.

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Speaker 3: I didn't hear that. Oh I'm surprised. Most salesmen are

551
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Speaker 3: the opposite. They want to make you feel like, well,

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Speaker 3: you got the best of me there.

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Speaker 2: We're the best buddies ever. Yeah, troubling flawed human, no doubt,

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Speaker 2: aren't we all, you've.

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Speaker 3: Probably seen this kind of story bouncing around, the increase

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Speaker 3: in people joining churches and that sort of stuff. Catholic

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Speaker 3: Church saw a massive spike in converts over Easter, thirty

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Speaker 3: eight percent increase in Eastern converts across the US diocese,

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Speaker 3: according to compared to the previous year. That's a pretty

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Speaker 3: big jump. I'd say all four of the largest dioceses

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Speaker 3: in the United States, Chicago, LA, New York, and Phoenix

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Speaker 3: saw significant growth. LA eight thousand converts this Easter one

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Speaker 3: hundred and thirty nine percent growth from last year. That

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Speaker 3: is something in the Orthodox churches having that sort of

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Speaker 3: growth too. Wonder what's happening. Is there another great awakening

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Speaker 3: going on?

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Speaker 2: Do you want to hear my stupid headline?

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 2: Bringing mass back to mass?

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Speaker 3: There you go?

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Speaker 5: You like it?

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Speaker 3: To final thoughts? We thought on Strong get you'll get

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Speaker 3: the facts. They're sharp instead to move, don't you forget?

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Speaker 3: For more from Strong? And Yet I couldn't love that more.

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Speaker 3: He's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Let's get a final thought from everybody on the Cry

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Speaker 2: and the crew to finish the day, Michael Agelo, would

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Speaker 2: you lead us off please? Hell this afternoon.

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Speaker 6: I'm thinking I'm gonna just park myself right in from

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Speaker 6: the television and just wait till five o'clock and see

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Speaker 6: what happens.

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Speaker 2: No kidding, Yeah, I might go with the Twitter, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: same idea. Katie Greener is deemed a newswoman has a

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Speaker 2: final thought.

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Speaker 4: Katie, I'm going to work on getting a shirt made

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Speaker 4: that says, blow their beards.

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Speaker 2: Off, love it. I'll take one jack final thought.

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Speaker 3: For us to the surgeon. People joining churches can that

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Speaker 3: sort of stuff. I think the modern world is leaving

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Speaker 3: a lot of people feeling like there's got to be

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Speaker 3: more than this, and they're looking for it somewhere and

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Speaker 3: maybe find it in the church. But the modern world

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Speaker 3: leaves you easily of feeling empty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so funny. You should bring that up. I've

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Speaker 2: actually been sitting on a couple of stories about towns

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Speaker 2: and organizations that are leaving the tech behind to a

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Speaker 2: large extent, especially for kids. I think that's a good trend.

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Speaker 2: Who knows. My final thought was going to be essentially

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Speaker 2: that one way or another, history will have taken a

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Speaker 2: pivot by the time we address you again. Manyana, Oh

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Speaker 2: you think so?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, even if he tacos.

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Speaker 2: That would be a pivot.

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Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty wrap pick up another grueling for our workday.

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Speaker 2: So many people who think so little time good Armstrong

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Speaker 2: in getty dot com. We have hot links for you. You

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Speaker 2: can drop us a note. What do you think about

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Speaker 2: all this mail bag? At armstrong in getty dot com

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Speaker 2: is the email address pick ups ang swag. Wouldn't your

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Speaker 2: favorite ang fan love a T shirt or a head

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Speaker 2: or perhaps you are that very person. I'm strong getty

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Speaker 2: dot com.

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Speaker 3: I just don't feel like you can make the threat

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Speaker 3: of all threats like that and then back down. We'll

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Speaker 3: see tomorrow. God bless America.

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Speaker 2: I'm strong and Getty. How does this happened?

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Speaker 3: I bought them used online and uh and they're just

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Speaker 3: they're like two sizes, way too big. Yes, you want

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Speaker 3: them really bad?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Why buy them? Two sides?

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Speaker 6: Is too big?

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Speaker 3: You shoes? They never really bit you shoes?

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Speaker 2: What is this in the olden days?

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Speaker 3: Exact?

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Speaker 2: Go buy yourself some shoes. We can all agree on that.

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Speaker 3: Armstrong and Getty