1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:06,439 Speaker 1: Ridiculous crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio Elizabethtte. 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: So good to see my friend. See you be good. 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 2: I've been over Well yeah, I got another question for you, 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: but the easier one to answer. Do you know it's ridiculous? Yes? 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: I do? What this is? 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 3: This is? 7 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: This is ridiculous. 8 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, So what do you get when you mix 9 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 4: a cell phone with a very petty drunk girl. 10 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: Oh wait, it's not about this. This is all a sudden, 11 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: an exciting mix. Go on. 12 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 4: Okay, So there's this lady Rhianna and Evans in Wales 13 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 4: the song ran. 14 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 15 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 4: Sure, she's twenty five and she's dating this dude who 16 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 4: you know has an ex girlfriend. Okay, and the boyfriend 17 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 4: her current boyfriend and his ex have a child together. 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: The boyfriend and his ex have a child together. Yeah. 19 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 4: And so then apparently there's some custody issues and this 20 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 4: rheannon this like new girlfriend. She's you know, she wants 21 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 4: to defend her her love. That's not any of her 22 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 4: business quite frankly. But aside from that, so what she did, 23 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 4: and this started in December of this last year around 24 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 4: the hall, Yeah, yeah, she started sending these videos to 25 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 4: the ex girlfriend. 26 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 2: Oh, like stay away from a man, right, I mean. 27 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 3: It's just so embarrassing when people do that kind of stuff. 28 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: Grow up well, also, it reveals it's a it's a 29 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: losing energy. It reveals your hanging on. And so it's 30 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: like either going and just scare them once or but 31 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: don't just keep saying go and scare them once. 32 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 4: She was upset because of this custody thing, and like 33 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 4: how upsetting it was to her boyfriend, this custody and. 34 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 2: When you got a kid involved, I mean you can't 35 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: just bum in rows the f up. 36 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 4: So anyway, she really did not grow up. She went 37 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 4: backwards full of hotcheys, went to like five six seven 38 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 4: year old humor. She started she sent videos of herself 39 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 4: farting into the phone. Yeah, she would like to start 40 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 4: the she would she'd take a video of her like 41 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 4: put the phone up to her rear end for bear. 42 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 4: Let's say she was wearing clothes, I don't go, I 43 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 4: beg you, and she'd rip a heater and be like 44 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 4: smirking and send this to the ex girlfriend. 45 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: So the ex girlfriend pretty much only gets the sound, 46 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 2: well the visual of like, yeah, but if it's a 47 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: clothes you'd have no idea if it's on mute, just you. 48 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: Know, it's the sound. 49 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 4: And so she's basically saying, I eat a lot of 50 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 4: fiber in your face. 51 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: A fiber? 52 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 3: Is this I'm discussing. 53 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 2: I'm guessed her would be that's not so bad in the. 54 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 3: House, baby, What is this? So she's just like she's 55 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 3: just tuning it up and sending these videos. 56 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: And she does she not understand that the really potent 57 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: part of a fart is the smell. 58 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 3: Well, I mean for kids though, it's the sound. Sound? 59 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: Why does it always it makes me laugh? 60 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 3: Anyway, So anyway, so she sends these, but she starts 61 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 3: sending like. 62 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 2: More and more. 63 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 3: Oh no, and then it becomes harassment, and so she 64 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 3: got arrested. 65 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: That's what you're talking about there. Well, Hi, it's a crime. 66 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 3: It's ridiculous. 67 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 4: So it was called it's cyber harassment, and all the 68 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 4: press was calling her the cyber fart. Yeah, And so 69 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 4: the prosecutor was, like, she admitted she sent the videos. 70 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 4: She said she was doing it because her boyfriend was 71 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 4: being treated unfairly. The prosecutor also said, quote it was 72 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 4: purely malicious. She was smirking throughout, found it hilarious. But 73 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 4: the victim didn't, so she gets she gets convicted. Okay, 74 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 4: she would get a twelve month community. 75 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: Order, and she did public service. 76 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 4: I guess she had to pay one hundred pounds in 77 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 4: compensation to the X and then one hundred and ninety 78 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 4: nine pounds in costs like fees, and then because she 79 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 4: was totally drunk when she made these, which it's like, 80 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 4: if I'm the ex I'm like, so I'm expected to 81 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 4: send my child to this woman's house who's drunk in Okay, yeah, no, this, 82 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 4: thank you? This works in my favorite for custody anyway, 83 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 4: because she was drunk. She also has to go to 84 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 4: fifteen rehab sessions, yes, and you. 85 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: Know rehab sessions like AA. 86 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 4: Meaning they call them rehabilitation sessions in the order. Sure, 87 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 4: and so you know she's only as sick as her secrets. 88 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 2: Quite frankly. 89 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 4: She also has to abstain from alcohol for sixty days 90 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 4: and they. 91 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: They have like an ankle monitor, this. 92 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,559 Speaker 4: Ankle monitor that takes a sample of her sweat every 93 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 4: thirty minutes, twenty four hours a day. 94 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: What have you done to yourself? Girl? Did the boyfriend 95 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 2: stay with her? 96 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 3: I don't know order as well, but why don't. 97 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 2: All of his ability to see his child. 98 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 3: Totally fart monitor that's what she needs. 99 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,559 Speaker 4: And then there's like a print out, like a long 100 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 4: piece of paper that comes out that. 101 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 2: I don't remember you saying how old they were? Do 102 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 2: we have any idea how old? 103 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 3: Twenty five too old? He's been with this dude. 104 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 4: The guy and the ex had been together for two years, 105 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 4: and I don't know how long she's been with this guy. 106 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 4: But yeah, he needs to cut his losses. 107 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 2: I don't even know what to make of that. I 108 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: know me neither. 109 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 4: Like it's like, ahha oh, this is why we can. 110 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 2: You know, when you see people like I think I've 111 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 2: seen like couples like this or like this triangle in public, 112 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 2: like in airports, bus stations and so forth. You're like 113 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 2: train stations, the public transportation depots. You know, pajama pants. 114 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 2: I was just about to say, you can almost feel 115 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: the pajama pants coming off of this. 116 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 3: I think that a lot of the gas is generated 117 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 3: by energy drinks, like I've got a picture of. 118 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 2: My coming from a high fiber diet. 119 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 3: She just eats fiber one bar and drinks and it's 120 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 3: just like a giant, like the un cloud that comes 121 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: out of her, so maybe that you could see it. 122 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm going to certify that ridiculous. 123 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: Little thank you, thank you? 124 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, now if you got a second, because I'm 125 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: not trying to like play like, oh I can top that. 126 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: But I got something that's seriously very similarly crazy and 127 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 2: it's also from overseas does Well a fortune telling ventriloquist 128 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 2: so good at what she does that she's able to 129 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: con the French mayor of the newdest seaside resort town. 130 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: It's not a mad lot, I'm about to tell you. 131 00:06:47,520 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: Buckle up, buttercup. This is ridiculous crime a podcast amount 132 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: absurd and outrageous capers, heists and cuns. It's always ninety 133 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: nine percent murder free and one hundred percent ridiculous. 134 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 3: Oh I'm gonna start howling. Why not? 135 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, let free, like, let's let your wolf out. 136 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 4: I got neighbors who bang pots and pants when like 137 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 4: big events still doing them? Well no, I mean it 138 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 4: was like, you know, it's when the big events happen. Oh, sure, 139 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 4: old events they bang on pots and pants and okay it's. 140 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: Charming, you know what. Yeah, I want people to be 141 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: free to express themselves. 142 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 3: That's how I know something has happened. I'm like, oh, 143 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 3: I got the pots and pants. 144 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: Speaking are free to express themselves, nudicts, Elizabeth, if I 145 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: got a story for you, I've been sitting on this one, 146 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: but today I fel like, you know, the right day, 147 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 2: at right time of the year to tell you about 148 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: the story of a fortune telling ventriloquist. Who can this mayor, 149 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: this French mayor in south of France no less indeed 150 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: by using ex seances and like this voice and possibly 151 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: some how do you say sex in this voice? Yes? Oh, yeah, 152 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 2: this story. It takes a place along the Mediterranean coast, 153 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: right in the south of France, right around the corner 154 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: from the French Riviera. So go to the French Ria 155 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 2: Riviera in your imagination. Yeah, and then travel east. Go 156 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: so it's closer to Spain than Italy. 157 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 3: Oh it's so travel west? 158 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: You mean sorry, yeah west, I'm saying travel from the 159 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: east to the west. 160 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 3: Okay. 161 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 2: So then it's a seaside town that's closer to Spain 162 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 2: than to Italy. It's a charming, idyllic, little postcard worthy 163 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 2: spot picture soft sandy beaches, warm days under the sun, 164 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: right as you enjoy this cool Mediterranean breeze belowing off 165 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 2: those blue blue waters. Also, everyone's fully naked. 166 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, I want to be there until 167 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 3: I got to the naked part. 168 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: I mentioned that up top. But this little idyllic seaside 169 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: town is to the biggest swinger community in Europe. Well 170 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: you know, it's a kinster bucket list destination, Elizabeth. It's 171 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: a welcome home for naturist aka nudists as we call 172 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: them over here. It's also it's also where a lot 173 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 2: of kinds of you know, pardon the expression, eurotrash freak 174 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 2: daddies like to get down and have their freak moments. 175 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: It's the preferred location for an appointment with a sex 176 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: party if you are you know. 177 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 5: So. 178 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 2: The town is called Cape de Agda, Okay, And now 179 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: every year tens of thousands of visitors come to this 180 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 2: beach town to get down and dirty. They strip down, 181 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: they meet and greet, they exchange partners, bodily fluids, what 182 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 2: have you. They do it all in this rich, classy, 183 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: tasteful South of France kind of vibe. Yeah, having never 184 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 2: been there, I didn't really trust myself to convey to 185 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 2: you what it's like in this charming, idyllic freaks. Oh 186 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: way past that girl. We need to understand this, like 187 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: this community, it's so part of this story. You need 188 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 2: to understand it when you're picturing what I'm about to 189 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 2: tell you. 190 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 3: I got a Google street view. Yes, so it's there's 191 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 3: people walking around with nicked on the Googles. 192 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: I thought about that. I didn't even know the cars 193 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 2: going through a bumping. 194 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 3: Into the body bus parading his gall exactly? 195 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 2: Is that everywhere every week? Yeah? So, as I said, 196 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: do you go from like the French Riviera, you know 197 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: where that is, and then you go around that little 198 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: bump and in France and then you run down south 199 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 2: towards Spain down there like apparently know Brits like to 200 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 2: go there, because I found a lot of British papers 201 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: like the stories going and they send a journalist like 202 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: I stripped down and I winded to this town right 203 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: and then. 204 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 4: The exactly I saw a museum like there was like 205 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 4: what do you call it? 206 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 3: How do you say? 207 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: Display? 208 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 4: Exhibit about naturalists? Naturalists? I know how to talk today? 209 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 4: Knew in France and like the history. 210 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: Oh I bet that's interesting. It really was. It was 211 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: an exhibition and. 212 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 4: It was like with the photographs, photographs and all these 213 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 4: like written materials they and kind of like promotional pamphlets 214 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 4: and films. 215 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 3: So there are you know, naked people and. 216 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 2: You're just looking at it and probably. 217 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 3: Naked people for the first time in my life. 218 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 2: Don't tell system Mary pat exactly. 219 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 4: But it was really interesting and like the connections with 220 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 4: various like pseudoscience, real science, weird like you know, social 221 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 4: movement exactly. 222 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: Say this springs off of that those fifties and sixties 223 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: social movements. There's like two different waves, I guess. And 224 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 2: then you have that the natureists back to let's go 225 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 2: back to literally nature, and then also sun worshiping kind 226 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 2: of like to want to get the side energy on 227 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: the body, so expose the skin. Yeah, it's a really 228 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 2: interesting like progression of thought, right you go. Also, architecture 229 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 2: is part of this town story, so they're refusing like 230 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 2: ly Cobursier's ideas and stuff. Okay, anyway to get back 231 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 2: to the the British journalists who are actually there walking 232 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: around these streets. I found in the Italian and British 233 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 2: fashion outlet gra Grazzia. They sent some unnamed staff writer. 234 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 2: They wouldn't put their name on this right, but they 235 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 2: tell us, and I quote, the village itself is roughly 236 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: one square mile and has everything you'd expect or need 237 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 2: from a French holiday resort. Bou lingerie, patesserie, hairdressers, cinema bars, 238 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 2: clubs and restaurants, clothes shops, bucket and spades stores, selection 239 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 2: of be steel themed latex gimps masks, your usual vacation needs. 240 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: There's that dry British witch. So other than the be 241 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: steel themed latex gimp masks, what else? How else could 242 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 2: you encapsulate this vibe, well, the vibe in Ogda, because 243 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: you never really want to rely on just one source, Elizabeth, 244 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 2: and this is as true as in life as it 245 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: is in journalism. True. I checked out a write up 246 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: in The Guardian from twenty fifteen and according to the 247 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: Guardian's account, the town of Copdag, also the journals went 248 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: Nude was a quote small nudist campsite dating back to 249 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 2: nineteen fifty eight. So it's just like you were saying, 250 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: and you know, basically kind of points out the Gramma 251 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 2: and Grandpa they in Kinky two, like we've been like 252 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 2: this forever, right, They're. 253 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 4: Like two camps is my understanding. There's the kinky and 254 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 4: then there are the people who were just like, you. 255 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 2: Know, we are that's cool. It's very humble sexual about that. 256 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 3: Yeah. 257 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 2: They just want to live where the sun can see everything. 258 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 3: Right. 259 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 2: So the story of Kype Daga goes in the nineteen 260 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 2: sixties under Charles de gaulf the French wanted to develop 261 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 2: this tourist economy for the region. They're like, how do 262 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 2: we pull ourselves out of the post war period all 263 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 2: was just do tourism, right, and so they tried to 264 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 2: create this seaside resort town and then it ends up 265 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 2: that they picked it where there was already this newdest 266 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: beach area. So this newdest beach they's like, well, now 267 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: it's the newdest beach resort, right. So this quasi hippie 268 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 2: moment in France that we've talked about, there's this group, 269 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 2: the Ultra Brothers, who had erected the first nudist campsite 270 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: and they were still there, so they put their stamp 271 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: on this and so by the seventies it becomes this 272 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 2: world famous naturist and nudist vacation spot. Everyone's like, oh, 273 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: you got to go in the south of France, there's 274 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: this newest place and boom. Now, if you ask the 275 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: Charles Bezier, who was the director of Cape dog Does 276 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 2: tourist office back in twenty fifteen, and he was sighted 277 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: in The Guardian, he would have told you that nudity 278 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 2: was built into the DNA of this vacation destination spot. 279 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 2: According to this tourist office director, he said, and I quote, 280 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 2: Cape Dogda was integrated as part of a whole with 281 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 2: the same principles of architectural unity, prioritizing pedestrians and proximity 282 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 2: to the sea. All right, so it's this town that's 283 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: designed for lush living in every possible way. So imagine 284 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 2: now Elizabeth is south of France, resort town. Forty thousand people, 285 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: young and old alike. Everyone's stark naked. Now not only 286 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: I mean like young and old alike, but it's mandatory 287 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: that you be naked, like you have to be all 288 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 2: the time. Yeah. In fact, there's a. 289 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 3: Natural like not just when you're on the beach, but 290 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 3: like walking. 291 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: Around you walk in, you gotta stritch down the library. Yeah, 292 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: there's like well there's one way into the town and 293 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: there's like a gate and you gotta walk through the gate. 294 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: When you go to the gate, you gotta sort it 295 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 2: out with them, pay to enter, strip down, and then 296 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: go be a nudist. Interesting, Okay, Now there's from what 297 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: I understand, some laxity of about this recently since like 298 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: post COVID especially, there's been some lax city about people 299 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: having clothed. So some people can walk around, so not 300 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: everybody it used to be at least in up to 301 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 2: twenty fifteen mandatory. Wow. Yeah, So the idea was that 302 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 2: there was this natural divide as like you know, like 303 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: imagine like a jetty if you will, separating this town 304 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 2: the seaside. You can't just like swim up to the 305 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: wrong beach. So there it is, with this guarded entry 306 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: point you pass through and then went to pass through 307 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: the gate. Clothing is forbidden also, so as photography obviously, 308 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 2: so people can be you know, very demure, hold space 309 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 2: for their body. Now in this OGDA you can do 310 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: your normal business. As the writer for The Guardian reported 311 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: from Old Naked City, quote, every facet of ordinary life 312 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 2: city is here. A bank, a post office, several supermarkets, 313 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: concrete arcades lined with hairdressers, fishmongers, opticians and clothes boutiques 314 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 2: throughout fully dressed staff, a formality the apparently developed of 315 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 2: its own record cater with surreal nonchalance to the great unclothed. 316 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: So the people working are dressed. The people who are 317 00:15:58,560 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: there as tourists are nude. 318 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 3: That's interesting because I imagine like you're at the hairdresser 319 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 3: and like they're leaning over you to like some are 320 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 3: wash your hair, and then you've got boobs in your face. 321 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 3: Some of that that for some that might be a selling. 322 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 2: It might be extra. They play extra autometrist. 323 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 3: And you're just sitting there, like they put paper down 324 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 3: on seats, a. 325 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 2: Lot of paper, A lot I imagine a lot of 326 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 2: papers are getting putt down a lot of places the uh. 327 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 2: But some of the people are nude. So like it's 328 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 2: like I read about some bar owners and when waiters 329 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 2: and restaurant owners and they're all like, I'm also a nudist. 330 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: That's why I've been here for thirteen years. So you'll 331 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: see a mix. So you walk in, some of the 332 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: waiters are naked, some are not. I don't know where 333 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: they're pinning, like their name tag. 334 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 4: They go to clear the table and they're like, excuse me, 335 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 4: pardon my reach, and now you've got crotch in your face. Yeah, 336 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 4: I just keep thinking of violations of my. 337 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: All the hair flying around every I mean like that violations. Yeah, sure, yeah. 338 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 2: The general clothing rule at the Seaside resort is simple. Quote, 339 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 2: we do ask that guests are dressed for breakfast, but 340 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 2: in the spa, rooftop and pool nudity is composed. You 341 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: were also forbidden from wearing swimwear on the beach. So 342 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 2: since it'schure up and since it's newdiced that this means 343 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 2: like all ages, by the way, from juniors to elders. 344 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 2: So you might see a quote grandmother aged beauty and 345 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 2: her sea through pouchy captain and d ring pierce nipples. 346 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 2: But also you may see like young children. So if 347 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 2: you're wondering, some folks bring their whole family on the 348 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 2: vacation to this free swing and freak party. As the 349 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: Guardian on a documented and I quote, by day, everything 350 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 2: is quite pg with families and couples wandering around doing 351 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 2: family pedestrian holiday. Things come darkness and the switch from 352 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 2: naturists to lifestyle happens. 353 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 3: Oh see, that's what I was wondering, Like, is it 354 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 3: all freaky. 355 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: Day night? Exactly? Da night. Yeap. So let's take a 356 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 2: little break and after this I'll tell you what happens 357 00:17:46,359 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 2: when the lifestyle happens. Elizabeth Zaren you ready to find 358 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 2: out what the lifestyle is like when it happens? 359 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 3: I guess yeah. I'm trying to, you know, I I 360 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 3: know that I hurt a lot of furries feelings and 361 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 3: a lot of magic, the gathering folks, feelings, me being judgmental, sure, 362 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 3: and I'm trying to get away with from that. So 363 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 3: I'm trying to, like, you know what, Furries, I love you, 364 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:35,479 Speaker 3: you do you? Same with the magic, the gathering around cards. 365 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 2: I care? Almost got close. We'll try and get work 366 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 2: on this. 367 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 3: But anyway, yeah, you know what, I am not gonna And. 368 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 2: Also who cares what a podcast host says? 369 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 3: I mean, really can we get down to that? And 370 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 3: anything I say is a total crock of. 371 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 2: Either it's either it's enjoyable and funny, which is about 372 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 2: our job, or it's like I didn't need that opinion. 373 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: You ignore. Ignore. 374 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 3: You have no idea how much stuff I ignore all day? 375 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 2: Yes, what you say, I'm well, I'm not going to 376 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 2: listen to that. Who knows? 377 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 3: Who cares? 378 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:08,479 Speaker 2: And I only listened to ten percent of what I say. 379 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 3: Anyway, continue, So, yeah, we're gonna go check out the lifestyle. 380 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 2: Yeah you ready, let's do it. 381 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 3: I'm I'm ready. 382 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well you want to take off a couple of 383 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 2: pieces of clothing? 384 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 3: No, So first of all, it's freezing in here. 385 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 4: Second of all, I am I am not someone who 386 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 4: shows a lot of. 387 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 2: I'm getting paid by AhR. 388 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 3: Just a second's admiral, iHeart, it was really quick. Well 389 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 3: they got the whole place bug so. 390 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 2: Well, Elizabeth the Lifestyle, the Guardian did this writer who 391 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: went around by the way, as I teld you, nude 392 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 2: like took off her clothing, had like a partner there. 393 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 2: I was like, doing the life. 394 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 4: Well, you can't get people to talk to you if 395 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 4: you're there. Well, first of all, you have to take 396 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 4: your clothes. 397 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 2: Off there if you want to look through the gate. Right, 398 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: So they report and I quote as the bars and 399 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 2: clubs open, the Harbourside promenade resembles a fantasy catwalk with 400 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 2: fetish finery of all types trying not to be prudishly 401 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 2: British and splutter her into my apparol. As I witnessed 402 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 2: a man be led along by a leash connected to 403 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 2: a sort of testicle dog collar, or a woman wearing 404 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: a cutout detailed skirt which solely focused on heroing the 405 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 2: vagina was a challenge. 406 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 3: Was this the. 407 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 2: Bars and clubs open? 408 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 4: I see see okay, and she's got a skirt on. 409 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 4: Why would you make a cutout just take the skirt 410 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 4: off to hero? 411 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 2: Well, it's a hero anyway. It's kind of like it's 412 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 2: overwhelming and then also becomes it becomes underwhelming. And she says, quote, 413 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 2: when you've seen fifty penises on your walk to breakfast, 414 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 2: the fifty first doesn't feel like a big deal. 415 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would you would you would get to nude 416 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 4: numb or you pass hey cold today? 417 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? 418 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 5: I know. 419 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 2: Well, nudity and may be brazen sometimes it's in very 420 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: nipple forward. Officially, sexual intercourse in public is banned. Right, 421 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 2: there's broadly a steep fine. If you're caught bumping joy button. 422 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: You cannot do that. Now, this whole seaside resort town, 423 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 2: everyone nude everywhere, as I said, except for the working folks, 424 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 2: the waiters, the shopkeepers, so forth. Who's policing this place? 425 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 2: They are their nude cops walking around with like a 426 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 2: utility belt, with like a badge and some handcuffs and 427 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 2: like the hat radio. And for the private clubs, they 428 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 2: rely on the discretion and force of private security because 429 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: remember it's just a mile by a mile. They're just 430 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 2: not that big. But it's got a lot of marks. 431 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 2: There's a lot of people apparently, it's like, what are 432 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 2: you gonna do? 433 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 4: This is this an actual like incorporated town or public 434 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 4: streets and they can yet they can stop you on 435 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 4: the way in interesting. 436 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. So during the busy summer season, the French authorities 437 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 2: they send in members of this elite French police division 438 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 2: and they task them with keeping the influx of tourists 439 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: under control. I wanted you to guess what they call 440 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 2: this will be French police, but I was like, it's 441 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 2: probably not the y SVU. Anyway, this summer is also 442 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 2: the time of year when Ogna play host to the 443 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 2: most families. Right, So you got this little tiny nude 444 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 2: to seaside rese are people everywhere. You need someone to 445 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 2: run it. You need like a as I said, right now, 446 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 2: when it comes to crime, the safest place apparently is 447 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 2: the Sandy Beach. One foreign bar owner and Agda, a 448 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 2: man named no Joke Johnny walker, just like the liquor brand. 449 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 2: I just assume American. And he explained the low crime 450 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 2: rate on the beach with his American simplicity of reasoning, 451 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 2: and I quote, where's the shop left? You're supposed to 452 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 2: hide his swag up? Well, you know, I love a 453 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 2: challenge the general lack of crime. Obviously this leads to 454 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 2: a lax attitude that the French they call it ben alize. 455 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 2: So it's apparently this laysaf fair attitude is why the 456 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 2: beach is. It's clean, it's hygienic, but from what I read, 457 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 2: it could use its fresh coat of paint. And so 458 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, somebody should probably fix the boardwalk. Okay, right, 459 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 2: But as I said, I don't want to just rely 460 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 2: on journalists. I also decided, you know who else can 461 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 2: really root me here? Trip Advisor Elizabeth. I was like, 462 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 2: well that's what Elizabeth would. I got a review for you. 463 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, from a trip Advisor user named keefeld Trucker. 464 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: We have the review from September twenty twenty four. This 465 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 2: is reason such a gift. I love stuff like this, 466 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: like a theme park. Once you're in, you're in, and 467 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 2: they have you somewhat literally by the testiculars. We stayed 468 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:14,239 Speaker 2: in Naturiva Spa, tired and not worth the cash. In 469 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 2: my book, I stay in mini hotels throughout the year 470 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 2: with work, and this was at best very average. Food 471 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: was decent. Most places we ate were nice. We tend 472 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 2: to do for late lunch and then some top us 473 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 2: per evening top up before going out. Clubs and bars 474 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 2: are super expensive. It seemed to only play club music loud. 475 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 2: It's not a Beitha. The demographic is so mixed they 476 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: should cater a bit more for other tastes. I don't 477 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 2: know what that last line means, which just sounds like 478 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 2: he wants he. 479 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 3: Wants like a jazz bar, like a piano bar. 480 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's KAO. So it sounds like basically 481 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 2: it's like a cruise ship or a conference in like Vegas. 482 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 2: Sounds like it's a key part of this review I 483 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 2: left out that I got to share with you. We 484 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 2: were there for bike Week, which is pretty cool. Can't 485 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 2: beat the sound of Harley's All Day Wait bike Week, Elizabeth, 486 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 2: you know what I'm accepting of you? Do you? 487 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 3: Bike Week? 488 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: So this charming, idyllic French seaside resort town Chocolate block 489 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 2: with nude bikers just pressing their copious hairy flesh into 490 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 2: those leather saddles of their harleys. Listening, Elizabeth, you were 491 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 2: wondering what the verdict was quote over all, the village 492 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 2: is cool. It's very tired, though, for the money you 493 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 2: pay everywhere, plus the visitor tax and entry, it would 494 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 2: be nice to see some investment. Litter, weeds, bins, et cetera. 495 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 2: All need addressed. If you want to cater for adults 496 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 2: willing to spend, make it a pleasant environment. Will we return? 497 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: Probably we will do a good bit of research and 498 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 2: searching out a good property next time. So it really 499 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 2: is more of a review of natural riva spas what 500 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 2: I'm reading. 501 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 3: It's kind yeah, but he's saying the rest weeds everywhere. 502 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, Hey, it's just like naked myrtle beach is what 503 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 4: it's kinda right. 504 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 2: So I found Jackie T from La who rode in 505 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: September of twenty twenty two that she had one hell 506 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 2: of a time at the French seaside resort town and 507 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 2: the title to her review kind of tips her hand. 508 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 2: If you need any kind of medical attention, good luck 509 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 2: remember all notice, So did I pick out a doctor. 510 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 2: I am a doctor. Is Jackie t Reports quote. My 511 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 2: husband and I are visiting from the United States. I 512 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: ended up getting COVID and I needed a PCR test 513 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 2: for my travel insurance company or any kind of legit 514 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 2: COVID test. No one that worked here was helpful at all. 515 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 2: The doctor on site was closed Thursday at two pm. 516 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,439 Speaker 2: I asked the woman working at the entrance where the 517 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 2: closest hospital was, and she didn't even know. Went to 518 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 2: the pharmacy across the street. They had no idea where 519 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: to get a test or where the hospital was. Either. 520 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 2: You're a pharmacist, you should probably know that. I looked 521 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 2: up the closest twenty four hour hospital asked if they 522 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 2: spoke English since my travel insurance company recommended them, and 523 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 2: said they did. The guy who answered the phone said 524 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 2: no and hung up on me. My husband has such 525 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 2: a hard time finding a restaurant that could do takeaway 526 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: for me since I had to quarantine. I get it. 527 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 2: I don't speak French, but I know the basics and 528 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 2: have a translation app. The most helpful person here was 529 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 2: our Airbnb host. One out of five would not recommend. 530 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 3: Oh my god, they're like the nightmare Americans. 531 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 2: When was it twenty twenty two September? Make us all 532 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 2: look bad? Oh god? 533 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 3: You know she's in there raising her voice, demanding COVID 534 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 3: tests and they're probably on the shelf behind the pharmacists. 535 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 3: And the pharmacist is like. 536 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 2: You know, maybe you should try London. I love the 537 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 2: d speak English. No tell us her husband running around naked. 538 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 2: Where gonna get a COVID test? 539 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 3: I want three chicken strips to go. 540 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 2: Well. 541 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 4: And you know what, like I've been not to this town, 542 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 4: to this region, and like Thursday at two pm, ain't nothing. 543 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 2: No, you're not going to find it. No, but you know, well, 544 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 2: I've kind of given you this environment. You can picture 545 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: the crime. Are you ready to me? 546 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 3: Like making cable Wabbo. 547 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 2: The fortune telling ventriloquist in the middle of this, Oh 548 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 2: forgot about the mayor of all of this, Oh god, 549 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 2: until the mayor at the time was a fifty five 550 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 2: year old man named j's Del. I'm gonna be speaking French. 551 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 2: I apologize anybody who speaks French. I'll be trying, said, 552 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 2: I'll be trying. I'm not gonna know this time, won't 553 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 2: be making fun of you like I do other times. 554 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: So anyway. 555 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 3: He well, I always, I mean, I don't like I 556 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 3: think you try. 557 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 2: I try sometimes I do like a pepula pia. So 558 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 2: everybody knows that it's a joke. 559 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 3: Trying to be I try. I do my damnedest. Like 560 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 3: you know, I fall short. 561 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 2: I know why I fall shorter. So that's why I 562 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 2: can look up and see you and I'm like, oh, Elizabeth, 563 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 2: I'm down here. So this guy, he's a he's a 564 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 2: police officer. Right. Then he becomes a French Secret service 565 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 2: officer and in two thousand and one he gets elected 566 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 2: mayor of this nudist town. And his father had been 567 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 2: in local politics, and so everybody was like, let's just 568 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 2: take his idiot son as a safe grow up against 569 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 2: the Socialist Party. Yeah. So so Gios dietur It was 570 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 2: a Minister of Parliament between two thousand and seven twenty twelve, 571 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 2: part of Jacques Scharrox Party the Union for a Popular Movement. 572 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: At the time, he was one of the two major 573 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 2: French political parties. It was the Liberal Conservative Party and 574 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 2: then the other party was the Socialists. Yeah, and this 575 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 2: party no longer exists because France, you can reap you. 576 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, make a new party. 577 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 3: All the time, they realized that the world of life evolved. 578 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 2: And that party shouldn't last like forever, like beautiful trees. Yeah. 579 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 2: So this party no longer exists and was replaced in 580 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 2: twenty fifteen by Nicholas Sarkozzi's Republicans Party. That's Republicans plural, 581 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 2: yeah with a Q. Yeah. No, this is what he 582 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: looks like, the conservative French politician of this seaside resort town. 583 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 2: Got a good idea of him. Yeah, I'm trying to 584 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 2: imagine it with no clothes on. Now. The other crimer 585 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 2: of our day is the aforementioned fortune teller with the 586 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 2: ventriloquism skills, a forty four year old mother of six 587 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 2: named Sophia Martinez. On Facebook, she describes her professions as 588 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 2: quote a medium, hypnotherapist, and healer. Means don't we all? 589 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 2: I know you do now? She uses chigong as to 590 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: direct energies, right okay. She also says that she is 591 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 2: quite a specialist in the cleansing of energy for pipos 592 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 2: in places, so you see, not just people Elizabeth places. 593 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 2: She can like psychically dust your home maybe, like if 594 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 2: you need, like so someone to come down and free 595 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 2: a curse from your clubhouse. She's your girl. Okay, In 596 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 2: case you were wondering, this is what Sophia Martinez looks like. Wait, 597 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 2: oh okay, right, businesswoman. She looks like she gonna come 598 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 2: in and like fire everybody right now. According to the 599 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 2: French newspapers I read, these two met back in twenty twenty. 600 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 601 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 2: Now the reason they met with Sofia had a reputation 602 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 2: around town. And you may be wondering what she could 603 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 2: do to get a reputation in this freaky French nudist 604 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 2: seaside resort town. Well it turns out Sophia could speak 605 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 2: with the dead. 606 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 3: Well that'll get you a rep. 607 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna be people anna talk. Yeah, now this 608 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 2: is the word on the street, you know. Sofia she 609 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 2: talks with the dead, And I was like, oh, how 610 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 2: about she charged right? 611 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 3: So she looks like quite the seductress. 612 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 2: I must say. Yeah, there is that aspect too, So 613 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 2: we'll get to that in a second now. According to 614 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 2: the mayor's lawyer, Jiles met Sophia after he'd heard about 615 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 2: her and after he'd suffered a personal tragedy his father 616 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 2: passed away. The mayor heard that this new misfortune teller 617 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 2: could help him reconnect with his departed daddy, So he 618 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 2: has to meet with her, and at their first seance, 619 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 2: Sophia was able to channel the spirit of the Mayor's 620 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 2: deer departed daddy. He was ecstatic he had to hear 621 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 2: from his father across the Great Divide Elizabeth. 622 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 3: From a naked lady. 623 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: Yes. After that first taste of Sophia's powers to speak 624 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 2: with the dead, the mayor was hooked. Yeah, and he's like, 625 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 2: I go back. I got to go back to that 626 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 2: naked lady who sounds like my dad. So another local 627 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 2: who had also lost her mother back in twenty seventeen, 628 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 2: she recalled to the French press how this all worked 629 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 2: and how she'd also relied on Sophia Martinez's ole connection 630 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 2: to help her speak with her dear departed mother. During 631 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 2: her first seance, Sophia told the woman that her power 632 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 2: to connect with her mother was also indicative that her 633 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 2: mother wished for her to duke the fortune teller with 634 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 2: some franks. Yeah, so as a pen moved on the 635 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 2: desk without any rational cause that this woman could perceive, 636 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 2: Sophia reportedly told the woman, it is your mother who 637 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 2: is signaling to you, she's asking you to help me. 638 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 2: That's a direct quote. That first seance cost her two 639 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 2: hundred euros, right, So the woman went for it and 640 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 2: then she's hooked. Right. So she estimated that over three 641 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 2: years she spent ten thousand euros. Whoa just trying to 642 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 2: talk to her mom naked lady a naked lady telephone. 643 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 2: So when it came to the mayor, Sofia went all 644 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 2: out right and her seances with the mayor. She called 645 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 2: herself an arch angel. She won the mayor's trust pretty quickly. 646 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 2: But how does she did it? Is really quite incredible 647 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 2: or in French all cray so. But rather than me 648 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 2: tell you about Elizabeth, close your eyes. 649 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 4: I am both excited and terrified like you to picture it. 650 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 2: It's a weekday evening and cape day actor and you, Elizabeth, 651 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 2: are an orange cat, an agent of chaos. You live 652 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 2: in the home of Sofia Martinez, resident psychic media and 653 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 2: communicator with the dead. You've watched her do her act 654 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 2: as a flesh telephone to the other side, and you 655 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 2: are not impressed. But still you sit on a high backed, 656 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 2: velvet upholstered chair as incense wafts past you. Soft and 657 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 2: Lousian folk music plays from the radio of the volume low. 658 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 2: It sets a mood. Seated next to you on a 659 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 2: similar chairs Gios de'e tour, the mayor of Cape de 660 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 2: Dog across the table from him is Sofia Martinez. At 661 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 2: the moment, both of them are nude, as is the 662 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 2: custom in this tiny nudist seaside resort town. With your 663 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 2: collar on, you're wearing the most clothing in this room. 664 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 2: The mayor waits, leans forward, his breath, expectant and halting. Meanwhile, 665 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 2: Sophia Martinez focuses her spirit and aligns her energy so 666 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 2: she can connect through the veil to the other side 667 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 2: and communicate with the dead. She takes a deep breath, 668 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 2: the literal inspiration fills her lungs with air and apparently 669 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 2: the words of the mayor's dead father, and then she 670 00:32:54,640 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 2: speaks moon fearz p deans du moment rips in English, Elizabeth, 671 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 2: which you also speak. You know this means my son, 672 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 2: why do you disturb my rest? But that voice she uses, 673 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: if you were not a cat and you possess the 674 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 2: power to laugh, you would burst out laughing. It's this hoarse, 675 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 2: masculine voice. It must hurt her vocal cords to even 676 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 2: do the voice. Meanwhile, the mayor is transfixed because when 677 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 2: she does the voice, somehow her lips don't move. The 678 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 2: voice seems to emerge from her. The Mayor's mesmerized, if 679 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 2: you could, you'd roll your eyes, but being an orange cat, 680 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 2: you just swish your tail. He asks his father, via 681 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 2: the fortune telling ventriloquist, a few more questions. He gasps 682 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 2: at times when Sophia does the voice, as it seems 683 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 2: like his father is there with him. Then comes the 684 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 2: ask that you know is coming. You hear Sophia say in. 685 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 6: The voice, proteges sofia, proteges sofia rendeis de he this 686 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 6: won't be bad. 687 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 2: And again you know what this means in English. 688 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,719 Speaker 6: Protect sofia protia, take care of her and her people, 689 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 6: the mayor tells his guiding archangel. Of course, of course 690 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 6: he will do whatever she needs. Since you can't laugh, 691 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 6: you reach forward with a paw and just knock a 692 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 6: candle off the table. And there you go, Elizabeth, you 693 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 6: furry agent of chaos. After just a few seances like 694 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 6: this one, the Mayor was the proverbial clay in her 695 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 6: hands right ready to be molded to her liking, because 696 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 6: the mayor would later confess that he was struck by 697 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 6: what he called her prowess as a clairev lant. Now, 698 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 6: from what I read, she would perform seances in person, 699 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 6: but later, once the long con had matured, she didn't 700 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 6: always have time to get over to his place and 701 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 6: do a full on seance, So the mayor would just 702 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 6: phone her and she'd be on the call with him, 703 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 6: and she would to persuade the mayor to do more 704 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 6: of her bidding, so he would do whatever she asked, 705 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 6: just as long as he could hear the sound. 706 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 2: Of his father's voice. That's crazy. But how does she 707 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 2: do it? How did she do? Yeah, well, you're doing. 708 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 3: It, but I am a man, whoa I gotta start making. 709 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 2: Some I saw your lips moving though. 710 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 3: Now you know I'm still recovering from a cold. 711 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 2: No, it probably didn't help feel well, Yeah, well there 712 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 2: was I found this guy of a French researcher, Antoine Giovanni. 713 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 2: He wrote for the journal Science and v DI Corvettes anyway, 714 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 2: Science and life discoveries. Right, So that's what Sophia Martinez 715 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 2: did with her her voice. He said, quote does not 716 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 2: rely on any extraordinary faculty, but exploit certain characteristics of 717 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 2: our speech production and listening systems. So she's working on 718 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 2: two angles. So what a ventrolquist does that's so remarkable 719 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 2: is how a person quote replaces the movements of the 720 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 2: lips with contractions of the tongue, the soft palette or 721 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 2: the larynx, well, keeping the mouth slightly open, without which 722 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 2: no speech is possible. So you got to keep that 723 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 2: little slight crash. Yeah. So this other key is to 724 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 2: control the pressure in her throat and her chest. You 725 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 2: want to compress the lungs using your diaphragm. Right, This 726 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 2: helps give the illusion of motionless speech. Our brains take 727 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 2: care of the rest. We tell ourselves the story. Oh 728 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 2: my god, they're not moving right. And this is what 729 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 2: the mayor did. He told himself the story and why 730 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 2: it worked so well because he just kept telling himself 731 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,800 Speaker 2: story and he wanted it so badly. 732 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, you know, as Joan Didion wrote, we tell 733 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,439 Speaker 3: ourselves stories in order to live. 734 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 2: Very true. She is so accurate. Now the years go on, 735 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 2: this conservative French mayor, he starts telling others in this tiny, idyllic, 736 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 2: nudist town about how he felt about Sophia and her 737 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 2: remarkable skills, how she's so her prowess, her client list, 738 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 2: it starts to grow and grow all of a sudden, 739 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 2: everyone's talking about it. She's milking this whole one by 740 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 2: one mile town. And you know he also said that 741 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 2: he was quite infatuated with her. 742 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and her amazing knocker. 743 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 2: Is it Booboo's mes monizing. So even though he was 744 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 2: in nudist town and all these sexy, freaky parties are 745 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,919 Speaker 2: going on every night, and you know, the mayor said 746 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 2: that their relationship wasn't sexual. This is not what the 747 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 2: local said. They saw. One local said, and I quote 748 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 2: for me, sex is at the haught of this scanda 749 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 2: where there is money involved, and its means sex is 750 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,760 Speaker 2: bought of it too. They kind of go together. It's fridge, 751 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 2: all right. So my question is was the reporter nude 752 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 2: asking this question like like did they have to disrobe 753 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 2: to cover the story? The telegraph conservative, well, I don't. 754 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 2: I don't know. That's a good point and thought about that, 755 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,240 Speaker 2: but you kind of if you're going to talk to locals, 756 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 2: you need to do man on the st Yeah, like 757 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 2: the telegraph of the British at the Telegraph, which is 758 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 2: a rather conservative pature. 759 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 5: Right. 760 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,399 Speaker 2: So and they said, you know that the mayor said 761 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 2: that Sofia was indeed special to him, but not in 762 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 2: the way that was more like, quote, considered her to 763 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 2: be his daughter. Okay, yeah, I don't know. So that's 764 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 2: why he would say he would do anything for her, 765 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 2: And I mean like anything like when she recently remarried 766 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 2: the psychic's third marriage. The mayor paid for the sumptuous affair, 767 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 2: and he walked her down the aisle. Yeah, like a father. Yeah, exactly, yes, 768 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 2: And his lawyer put it, quote nothing was too good 769 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 2: for missus Martinez. And is that one incensed local mentioned 770 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 2: earlier he did it with the French seaside resort town's 771 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 2: money like it was his own. So when that got 772 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 2: out of that changed things. Yeah. So Elizabeth, if you 773 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 2: were a scammer living in a seaside resort town of 774 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 2: nudists and you had the mayor doing your bidding, yeah, 775 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 2: you know, whenever you daddy talked to him, why what 776 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 2: would you ask the mayor to do for you? Will 777 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 2: be your ask? Oh gosh, I don't know. Put some 778 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,399 Speaker 2: clothes on, tell these people to get dressed. You're the mayor, 779 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 2: you can do it. I don't know what did she Well, 780 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 2: let's take a little break and after these messages, I 781 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,240 Speaker 2: will tell you what she got for doing the boys. 782 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 2: Elizabeth Zaren, we're back. Hello, I put my clothes back on. 783 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 2: If you're happier? Now you're good? So are you? 784 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 3: Are you decent? 785 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? Producer? Do you can put your glasses back on? 786 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 3: Oh? 787 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 2: Thank god? Now, Sophia, our psychic medium of today, I 788 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 2: asked you what you would ask for? Right before I 789 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 2: tell you what she asked for? Do you have an answer? 790 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 2: Have you thought about what you would ask for from 791 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 2: the mayor of this newest seaside? 792 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 3: I still don't know. 793 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 2: I'm just I can't not a good crimer. 794 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 4: Well, because we go to break you stripped down, you 795 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 4: stand on the table, you help my hands on your 796 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 4: hands and I'm like, I please stop. So how do 797 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 4: I focus? 798 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 2: Now? The interns loved it, so anyway, the psychic medium right, 799 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 2: they received obviously the lush, beautiful wedding, yeah, very sumptu 800 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,760 Speaker 2: fair that was paid for by the mayor by the city. 801 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 2: But there was also a veranda for her home that 802 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 2: he had the mayor build onto her home. But the 803 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,399 Speaker 2: question of how she did it was what we would 804 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 2: call in America insurance fraud. Oh yeah, because who's going 805 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 2: to pay for it? Not this town. Like obviously, remember 806 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 2: the people were complaining about how the trash wasn't getting 807 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 2: there is not money being spent in other places that 808 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,919 Speaker 2: it should have been spent to Sofia. 809 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 3: House. 810 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 2: I read the French paper. I did not think it 811 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 2: was the French. 812 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 7: Paper Medi Libre or medi Libre anyway, it's like, yeah, 813 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 7: so they reported quote during work that took place in 814 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 7: Valet Plague during a large construction site, the terrace of 815 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 7: a restaurant owner was apparently damaged through overcharging for the 816 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 7: repair work to be carried out with the insurer of 817 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 7: the construction company, but also a reduced scale of the 818 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:44,360 Speaker 7: repairs undertaken. 819 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 2: A significant sum was apparently released. It seems to have 820 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 2: been used to cover the construction of the Clairvoyance property. 821 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 2: This is an insurance scam but also an abuse of 822 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 2: corporate assets. The sum that was released is very significant 823 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 2: and does not correspond to the work carried out at 824 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 2: the restaurant, but more to what was implemented at the Clairvoyance. 825 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 3: I see, yeah, that's that. 826 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 2: So she can get the veranda. Do not repair the restaurant, 827 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 2: but she gets a veranda. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, so beyond 828 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 2: the construction pod. Sophie also finessed the mayor into getting 829 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 2: her jacuzzi hot tub. Yeah, because you know sometimes you 830 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 2: need one to sip off there. Now. She also arranged 831 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,919 Speaker 2: for the mayor to buy her airline tickets for her 832 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 2: and her family too far away dreamy destinations like French, 833 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 2: Polynesia and Thailand. 834 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 3: Oh wow. 835 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 2: Now all told the mayor and Bezel nearly three hundred 836 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 2: thousand euros over a four year period of time. Wow. 837 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 2: The funds to his fortune teller whoa not only that sop. 838 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 2: He also arranged for the mayor to get her a 839 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 2: car to drop off and pick up her daughter at school, 840 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 2: all paid for by the seasward resort town. She had 841 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,439 Speaker 2: the mayor hire five of her family members her jobs 842 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 2: in the city. We had no show jobs. Yeah. The 843 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 2: mayor hired her daughter at his office on probably a 844 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 2: no show job. He hired her new husband as the 845 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 2: technical director for the town. He hired a friend of 846 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 2: hers to run the toll gate. The tourists had to 847 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 2: pass her to enter the nasty seasiders. Yes, so I 848 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 2: feel that I have to say that from everything I read, 849 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 2: there was indeed no romantic aspect to this story. I 850 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 2: could be wrong about that, Yeah, but his lawyer denied it. 851 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 2: Her lawyer denied it. The two of them denied it. 852 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 2: He walked her down the aisle. You know. It does 853 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 2: seem like he was more infatuated in a sense of 854 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 2: she makes my daddy noises. So it's France, you know, 855 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 2: and it is home of them in Najatua in the afternoon, 856 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 2: tryst with your lover. We cannot look past the idea, 857 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 2: and it's hardly hard to believe. There may not have 858 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 2: been no hanky panky, even initially, especially in a new 859 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 2: dist town. But whatever. The locals really are fixated on this. 860 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 2: They were convinced there was a lot of them, at 861 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 2: least from what I read, or convinced that it was 862 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 2: all about sex or possibly love. Yeah. But they also 863 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 2: didn't want to blame the mayor, so it said they 864 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 2: blamed her. 865 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,760 Speaker 3: Oh well, yeah, as. 866 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 2: One local recounted, quote, I like Zime. He has been 867 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 2: good to me. He was tricked. Maybe he was in 868 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 2: loveless hair. 869 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 3: Well it does actually so, I mean he's the victim. 870 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there was someone else in town who might 871 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,399 Speaker 2: have been worried that the mayor was falling in love 872 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 2: with the fortune telling Ventriloquist, it was, namely the mayor's wife. 873 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 2: I was going to say, Geraldine, Oh, poor Geraldine. Right, 874 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 2: So in October twenty twenty three, she went to the 875 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 2: police and told them she believed that her husband was 876 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 2: breaking the law for the sake of his newest psychic medium. Now, 877 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 2: working off this tip from the wife, the police spring 878 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 2: into action. Right, we have nothing to do here, so 879 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,720 Speaker 2: they set up a wiretap. They began to record conversations 880 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 2: between the mayor and his favorite soothsayer. They record these 881 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 2: for months. Right, the police listened into the calls. The 882 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 2: officers are amazed by what Sophia is doing. Right, not 883 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 2: the long Con, Right, that's kind of run of the mill. 884 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 2: But they just couldn't believe the voice. They were here, right, 885 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 2: the cops doubted themselves and what they knew to be true. 886 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,359 Speaker 2: The voice was that's powerful. Yeah. After a few months 887 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 2: of listening in on the Long Con, in March of 888 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,320 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, the French police finally set up a 889 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 2: raid at the mayor's office. Roughly twenty judicial police from 890 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,399 Speaker 2: outside the area come rushing in for the nearby Montpellier. 891 00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, did they have to take their clothes off. 892 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 2: To come in? I think that the cops they can 893 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 2: qualify as workers. They have to, so they came in 894 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 2: when they did the police actions, that'd be great, though. 895 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 2: Twenty cops set the door of the town. They're stripping 896 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 2: down and putting everything in a little bit. Other cops, 897 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 2: the mustaches. On Tuesday morning, the French investigators they raid 898 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 2: the mayor's office, other locals, the local cops, they go 899 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,600 Speaker 2: to his house, they go to the helm of Sofia Martinez, 900 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 2: they arrest everybody. Doesn't take much digging to find evidence 901 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 2: of the mayor's embezzlement, the fraud, the insurance scamming. But 902 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,600 Speaker 2: it wasn't just him because obviously he's criminally implicated his partners. 903 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 2: So yeah, he found some people who've been taking bribes. 904 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,800 Speaker 2: There's the construction company that's in on the insurance scam. Right, 905 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,240 Speaker 2: So this is when all hell breaks loose in this sleepy, 906 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 2: little sexy, freaked at eastas Side resort town. So at 907 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,319 Speaker 2: this point, right we've got the cops. They've run their 908 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 2: wire tap, they've been listening for months, they got all 909 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 2: the evidence they need, right, but yet they're still beguiled 910 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 2: by Sophia and her magical ventriloquism act. And so when 911 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,360 Speaker 2: they raid the mayor's office and they arrest her and 912 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 2: they arrest him him, they're going, okay, tell us all 913 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 2: the story. They separate out everybody, right, So they got questions, 914 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 2: and their questions are essentially, is the mayo guilty or 915 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 2: is he just dumb? Right? Well, Sophia really channeling the 916 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 2: dead father? And the does she a natural voice down 917 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,280 Speaker 2: and to just got stuck to the felonious skills? 918 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 3: I think I could answer all of those for. 919 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,600 Speaker 2: Them right now. So news also breaks with the arrest 920 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,600 Speaker 2: because it's big news. They go into the mayor's office, 921 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 2: all these judicial cops, they pull them out. So this 922 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 2: conservative mayor gets attacked immediately by his fellow conservatives who 923 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,879 Speaker 2: tried to climb over his wrecked mayoral career. And then 924 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 2: his main rival was this man named Fabian Derasano. Right, 925 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 2: he's from the new far right Marine Marine Lapane Party 926 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 2: National Party. So what are all these conservative politicians doing 927 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 2: in a new just freaked out eas seaside resort town. 928 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 2: Right to our American political sensibilities. This may not job 929 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 2: in Europe. It makes perfect sense. But I mean he's 930 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 2: right out in the open. I mean they're not like 931 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,799 Speaker 2: hiding here. They may get caught. 932 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because we've got the weird puritanical Yeah, the 933 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 3: whole moral hypocrisy, y puritanical. 934 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,720 Speaker 2: So this far right mayoral rival of this newdest seaside 935 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 2: beach Town Fabian Verrasano, He says of the recently conned mayor, quote, 936 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,880 Speaker 2: he can be generous in love with lots of different women. 937 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 2: That's his personal life. But using the attack SPA's money, 938 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,280 Speaker 2: that is a different story. He has made the mockery 939 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 2: out of hometown. I don't know how that's possible. So 940 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 2: he falls out with the calls for the bear to 941 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 2: step aside and to resign. It's a problem with that, Elizabeth, 942 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 2: because under local French law, this mayor doesn't have to resign. Yeah, 943 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,279 Speaker 2: even if he's behind bars. So really yeah, the law 944 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,399 Speaker 2: professor Sebastian Danija, he explained it this way. He said, 945 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 2: quote theoretically he can be in prison and remain mayor 946 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,719 Speaker 2: of Ogda and president of the urban community. No one 947 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 2: can force him. And as long as he's not deprived 948 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 2: of his civil rights, and only the judge can ultimately 949 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 2: do that. The judge would have to see hear her 950 00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 2: whole case and whatever. So until that happens, he stays 951 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,959 Speaker 2: the mayor. And so what that means is he's there 952 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 2: doing mayor business, like having the weekly town council meeting, 953 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 2: and he's in prison. He's in the behind bars. He's like, yeah, 954 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 2: come to my cell. You guys sit on the other 955 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 2: side of the bars. Let's do this. So anyway, after 956 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 2: these raids, the arrests, the mayor, the fortune telling ventriloquists, 957 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 2: they all get they're all on police custody, as I said, right, 958 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 2: and the police also said they've been listening and they're 959 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 2: just so like struck by the voice. Right. So they 960 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 2: once they have Sophia and custody, the first thing that 961 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 2: they want is like, to the voice, the voice, Come on, 962 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 2: do the voice for us to do it? Just do it. 963 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 2: It's like the one of the Benny Jesuits from Doomed. 964 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 2: Do the voice. So she does the voice for the cops, right. 965 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 2: The cops are floored. They are literally speechless watching her 966 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,720 Speaker 2: do it. Apparently, from what I can tell from this story, 967 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 2: French people are very impressed by ventriloquism. 968 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 3: Oh really, they're. 969 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,479 Speaker 2: Just like, their lips are not moving. Where is this coming? 970 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 2: Pick up? Shake out? So, I don't know. One local 971 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 2: cop told the press that what he witnessed white and 972 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 2: he heard. He said, it was astonishing. This is like 973 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,359 Speaker 2: what I would expect children to say about this. Right, 974 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 2: these are the cops, the tectives investigator, I know, right, 975 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,400 Speaker 2: God bless he doesn't say oh well, yet I feel 976 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,959 Speaker 2: what he's saying. So this other cop describes a voice 977 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 2: as quote masculine sounding, calm and husky. So they're like, yeah, 978 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 2: it's like Kathleen Turner voice, like Kim Carnes. I don't know. So, 979 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,880 Speaker 2: after this demonstration, the French cops have all sorts of 980 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 2: questions for Sophia. They play a tape of her doing 981 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,759 Speaker 2: the voice over the phone. They play it for the mayor. Right, so, 982 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,800 Speaker 2: after they interrogate her and they have her do the 983 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 2: voice and all that, and they recorded all this, they 984 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 2: go over to the mayor and they're trying to tell 985 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,800 Speaker 2: him and he won't believe that she's not channeling his father. 986 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 2: So and I don't know. I don't think he's just 987 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,840 Speaker 2: buyer's remore or a lack of buyer's remorse, you know, 988 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 2: even Dunny Krueger, all those types of things where a 989 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,360 Speaker 2: person just refuses to believe that the past and the 990 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 2: future don't connect. Right, He's like, what are you talking 991 00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 2: about here? I am she's all this time, know that's 992 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 2: been my father. They're like, oh, seriously, she's doing it. Yeah, yeah, 993 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 2: and they're like okay, well, so the cops then have 994 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 2: to play an actual video of the interrogation so he can. 995 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 3: See doing this, and it just fractures him. 996 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:19,440 Speaker 2: And then finally he's like, man, so he realizes like 997 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 2: he's been coned. Right. The French newspaper Media Libre, they 998 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,880 Speaker 2: reported Sophia told the cops quote, I knew I was 999 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 2: being wiretapped, but I cannot stop talking in death voice. 1000 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,359 Speaker 2: I've entered into a rope lay and I can't get 1001 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 2: out of it, like someone who drinks and can't stop. 1002 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,760 Speaker 2: So now she has a drunk on her own power. 1003 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 3: I know how that goes though. 1004 00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,880 Speaker 4: You start saying something as a joke and then you 1005 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,360 Speaker 4: can't stop saying, oh, yeah, you. 1006 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 2: Got a couple, I got a budget. So the mayor, 1007 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,280 Speaker 2: you know, he's been a mayor for twenty three years. 1008 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 2: That's why people are like, I can't believe it. You know, 1009 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,439 Speaker 2: he blows all of this up just for somebody who's 1010 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 2: going to pretend to be his daddy. That's why he 1011 00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,360 Speaker 2: did it. They weren't even doing the boom boom man. 1012 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,839 Speaker 2: On March twenty first right is of twenty twenty four, 1013 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,280 Speaker 2: last year, the mayor makes his first appearance in court 1014 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 2: right on charges of quote, illegal interest taking and corruption. 1015 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 2: He tells the judge quote, since I found out that 1016 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,120 Speaker 2: this voice was a hoax, I've been stunned. I regret 1017 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,839 Speaker 2: if I've committed in the wrongdoing, I would like to 1018 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,400 Speaker 2: add it in this case, I am first and foremost 1019 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 2: the victim. An entire city will suffer. 1020 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 3: Wow. 1021 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, he tries to plead like oops, yeah, and 1022 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:27,799 Speaker 2: some of his friends who he leaned on to do 1023 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,399 Speaker 2: favors for his fortune, telling Ventriloquist to Medium, they get 1024 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,239 Speaker 2: dragged into this fire. So now they've got to get 1025 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 2: themselves out. So there's like the construction company. Two executives 1026 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 2: from the construction company. They get indicted for the insurance 1027 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,840 Speaker 2: fraud and corruption and so forth, because they're taking public funds. 1028 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 2: It's all bad and also there's forged documents. That's another crime. Yeah. 1029 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 2: So in Sofia, where is she? She's in detention, right, 1030 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 2: so she gets sent to an all women's facility, but 1031 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,560 Speaker 2: then she has to be removed from that because her 1032 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 2: fellow inmates they all attack her because they believe that 1033 00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,440 Speaker 2: she's a witch. So has he placed in protective custody. 1034 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:02,440 Speaker 2: Ball she waits. 1035 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,280 Speaker 3: Justine with two of the voice in jail. 1036 00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:10,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, she the voice and they were like no. So 1037 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 2: her lawyer says that that he tried to excuse what 1038 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 2: she was doing. He goes into the court and she's like, 1039 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 2: you know, you have to understand, Uh, my client, she's 1040 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,040 Speaker 2: a witch, right, and so or maybe she thinks she's 1041 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,799 Speaker 2: a witch. People think she's a witch. This guy thinks 1042 00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,960 Speaker 2: she's a witch. You know, so some people, smart people 1043 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,680 Speaker 2: believe she's a witch. So therefore throw the case out 1044 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,560 Speaker 2: and the lawyer and this is how the lawyer put 1045 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,840 Speaker 2: in Elizabeth. She is admitted betraying the mayo's confidence, but 1046 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,840 Speaker 2: it's not the case of manipulation because she has owned 1047 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,960 Speaker 2: up to what she did, and other clients, including doctors 1048 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 2: and architects, said that she had mystical powers. So she 1049 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,279 Speaker 2: you know, if you can an architect in France, that's 1050 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:52,400 Speaker 2: like it's clear high bar. Y'are on a case closed 1051 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 2: no in a sense then, so if you're wondering why 1052 00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,440 Speaker 2: her lawyer might make that case, right and don't be 1053 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,920 Speaker 2: a legal hater, Elizabeth, Okay, he did have evidence, actual evidence, 1054 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,840 Speaker 2: he said, and I quote she revealed the details about 1055 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,760 Speaker 2: their lives that no one else knew about. So boom, 1056 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:09,799 Speaker 2: what are you gonna say about that? 1057 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 3: Don't you feel so small town? 1058 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,400 Speaker 2: I don't believe that. I don't believe it's true. Personally, 1059 00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,600 Speaker 2: that's simple. But so via she knows that sees these 1060 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 2: secrets that doctors and architects are impressed by, but the 1061 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:25,040 Speaker 2: judge not so impressed. So again you're on the clearly 1062 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,320 Speaker 2: my life is in a sense, she is a witch. 1063 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,279 Speaker 2: And so the justice though, of this side, it is 1064 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,719 Speaker 2: a strange too, I admit that. But the justice is 1065 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 2: kind of strange too, because it's like everything's about like 1066 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,879 Speaker 2: if you admit it, and we will throw away the case, right, 1067 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 2: because they really want the mayor to stop being Zi Maya, 1068 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 2: that's the thing. So he's like, no, I am still Maya. 1069 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 2: No get to me, lunch or whatever. So the ventril 1070 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,680 Speaker 2: she's locked up, she separated. The mayor is still in town. Right, 1071 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 2: and also, by the way, the ventriloquist, her daughter gets 1072 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,479 Speaker 2: locked up. Her close friend who ran the toll door gate, 1073 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 2: she gets locked up, her third hug he gets locked up. 1074 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 2: So out of interest for them, she's like, okay, she 1075 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,439 Speaker 2: starts confessing I did this, I did that. They start 1076 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,719 Speaker 2: getting released, right, So that's that's a happy thing for everybody. 1077 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 2: But the trouble for all of this is that the 1078 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 2: scandal was bad for the vibes of this tourist rich 1079 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,040 Speaker 2: nudist calling you. They're like, people don't want to come 1080 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:17,640 Speaker 2: here and get naked if they think we have no 1081 00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:22,000 Speaker 2: good mayor and our cups of fools. So justice has 1082 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 2: to be swift. They want this story to go away. Yeah, 1083 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,239 Speaker 2: so they start leaning on them, right, So they need 1084 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,359 Speaker 2: to get the mayor to quit his job, and he's like, no, 1085 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,000 Speaker 2: when is the next election two more years? Yeah, And 1086 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 2: so his co conspirators from the construction company, though, they're like, 1087 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 2: they're not so blase about power. They pay their fifty 1088 00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,800 Speaker 2: thousand year ob bail. They get released. So now this 1089 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 2: case starts to go away a little because we don't 1090 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,960 Speaker 2: have updates on them in the press anymore. That's good. Right. 1091 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 2: In April, after waging a long fight to keep his gig, 1092 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,360 Speaker 2: the mayor announces that he will give way to ZIP people. 1093 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 2: He resigns his being mayor in May, right, and he 1094 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 2: announces he'll do it, and then he does it in May. 1095 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,400 Speaker 2: And in June they let him out. He gets released 1096 00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,680 Speaker 2: from jail. They're like, okay, fair enough, and so that's it. 1097 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 2: That's all the time he has to do. So that's 1098 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,279 Speaker 2: enough time behind bosh for him. They decide they put 1099 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 2: him on probation. He's released, he's barred from leaving France. 1100 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,160 Speaker 2: You can't leave France. And he's forbidden from doing any 1101 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,160 Speaker 2: contact with Sofia. He's like, no more talking to your 1102 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,000 Speaker 2: daddy through hell, right, and so then also he can't 1103 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:14,440 Speaker 2: talk to the construction company buddies. 1104 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 3: But he's very limited exactly. 1105 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,760 Speaker 2: Just kind of go on from naked, naked and humbled. 1106 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,239 Speaker 2: So Sophia nor obviously your friend, her daughter, husband, they've 1107 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,360 Speaker 2: all been released from jail, but Sofia, she's still in 1108 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,040 Speaker 2: jail come June. She's locked up. She's doing advoice to 1109 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:31,640 Speaker 2: try to get it out, it's not working. By the 1110 00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,480 Speaker 2: end of the month, she's finally said to be free 1111 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,279 Speaker 2: because they decide, okay, that's been enough time. But for 1112 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 2: her probation, they send her a halfway house in Strasbourg, 1113 00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:45,799 Speaker 2: which is Frances just across the German border and just 1114 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:50,719 Speaker 2: across the Swiss border as well. It's just really the 1115 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,960 Speaker 2: name strasburgs like, is this really a French time? Do 1116 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,960 Speaker 2: you guys get this in the war? And so anyway, 1117 00:54:56,040 --> 00:55:00,319 Speaker 2: she's forbidden from practicing witchcraft, esotericism, no alternative meta send, 1118 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,040 Speaker 2: no other form of woo woo treatments of any kind. 1119 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 2: And so there you go, justice meeted out because and 1120 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,120 Speaker 2: the story went away, and the tourist down was happy, 1121 00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 2: and they took the clothes off and they said, so 1122 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,759 Speaker 2: Elizabeth Strange, a true story of a fortune telling ventriloqust 1123 00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 2: to condom mayor of a French nudist seaside resort to 1124 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 2: there you go by thinking it was dear dead departed 1125 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,480 Speaker 2: amazing any ridiculous takeaways here? 1126 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,880 Speaker 4: You know, I think it's really interesting where the mayor 1127 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:32,480 Speaker 4: wanted so badly to connect with his father, and you know, 1128 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,440 Speaker 4: you have that trauma and that loss, and especially I 1129 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:36,640 Speaker 4: don't know how fresh. 1130 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 2: It was for him. If this was a recent loss. 1131 00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:40,960 Speaker 2: It's obviously extending years. 1132 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,200 Speaker 3: I mean, but it'd be like at the beginning when 1133 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 3: he first. 1134 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,439 Speaker 2: Starts talking like, yes, it is a recent loss. 1135 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so you think, like that's when you're you're 1136 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 3: most desperate in your grief. 1137 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. She's weaponizing his grief, Yeah exactly. 1138 00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:55,480 Speaker 4: And so he he's convinced himself that this is true 1139 00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 4: and it has become so important to him, and that 1140 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,760 Speaker 4: you can then, when you have the kind of of driver, 1141 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,920 Speaker 4: you can rationalize anything. So he's rationalizing all of his 1142 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:10,400 Speaker 4: poor choices and his criminal choicest Yeah exactly. And it 1143 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,600 Speaker 4: is almost sort of like he is obviously the victim. 1144 00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 4: He did dumb stuff, but like I really feel for 1145 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:17,319 Speaker 4: him and. 1146 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:22,320 Speaker 3: In what his grief did to him and her manipulation 1147 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,400 Speaker 3: of it to exploitation. 1148 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:25,320 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. 1149 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,040 Speaker 3: Saron, what's your ridiculous takeaway? 1150 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,680 Speaker 2: Zim boobies? While she's mismerizing him with your voice, I mean, 1151 00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,040 Speaker 2: you were watching a ventriloquist. He's not moving their mouth, 1152 00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,279 Speaker 2: but they're like jiggling all over the place. It's just 1153 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:37,080 Speaker 2: hilarious to me. 1154 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 3: Well, I mean then you can really see if they're 1155 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,880 Speaker 3: breathing or not. There's no clothing to mask it, like 1156 00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,920 Speaker 3: if you're wearing like And then if she rips a 1157 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 3: fart right on the Nauga High, there's no clothes to muffle. 1158 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,000 Speaker 2: It's just a sharp They're in her house, so she 1159 00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,160 Speaker 2: may have been wearing a robe. I have no idea. 1160 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:59,560 Speaker 2: I just like picture. She's naked just everywhere, Yeah, exactly everywhere, and. 1161 00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:05,359 Speaker 4: He's just mesmerized, not only by her rack looking and 1162 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,719 Speaker 4: seeing that she's not moving and breathing. 1163 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:13,840 Speaker 2: Like you know, crowd. So my ridiculous takeaway, Elizabeth, is 1164 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,000 Speaker 2: that perfect? Now, if you you'd like, we can wash 1165 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 2: this all down with the talkback. I got a talkback 1166 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:20,640 Speaker 2: for us. 1167 00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, in fact, tonight I have two, and I'm going 1168 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:23,640 Speaker 8: to tell you why. 1169 00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:33,560 Speaker 2: Why, Oh my god, I went get. 1170 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:36,600 Speaker 5: This. 1171 00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:41,800 Speaker 8: First one came in January thirty first, not too long ago, 1172 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,560 Speaker 8: and it is tipping off the story that Elizabeth told 1173 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,760 Speaker 8: at the top of this episode. So I want to 1174 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:51,560 Speaker 8: give credit where credit is due to this talkback contributor. 1175 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 8: And then I'm going to give another one at the tailor. 1176 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 8: I certify, as a matter of law, I did not 1177 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 8: share this with Elizabeth. 1178 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:06,880 Speaker 5: Ahead of time, Zarn Elizabeth, Producer D interns that may 1179 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,520 Speaker 5: or may not be dogs. I have a ridiculous crime 1180 00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,800 Speaker 5: to share with you. So my husband and I were 1181 00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 5: texting back and florith. I was at work telling him 1182 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,120 Speaker 5: how much I loved and missed him, and he was 1183 00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,560 Speaker 5: telling me, yeah, yeah, I love you too. But first 1184 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,640 Speaker 5: check out this news article I found about a woman 1185 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:26,160 Speaker 5: who was harassing her ex's partner with fart videos. They 1186 00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,520 Speaker 5: called them fart selfies in the news article, and it 1187 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:30,880 Speaker 5: was ridiculous. 1188 00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,480 Speaker 3: Part selfie start selfies is so good and so gross. Yes, 1189 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,000 Speaker 3: all right, let's hear our second one. 1190 00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:38,600 Speaker 2: Number two. 1191 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 8: You know what's ridiculous is getting all dressed up for 1192 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,600 Speaker 8: the Purpies and then there's no Purpies this year. 1193 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,560 Speaker 2: I am a sad person. Well, it got good news, 1194 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,800 Speaker 2: and we waited this year for award season so that 1195 00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,960 Speaker 2: the Purpies could be properly framed amongst all of the 1196 00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:59,200 Speaker 2: mountaintop accolades, the egots of it all. Yes, so we 1197 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:05,560 Speaker 2: hope to be in there, the pagotcotts. Yes. So yeah, 1198 00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:09,440 Speaker 2: there you go, Elizabeth and Producer D. That's all the 1199 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,400 Speaker 2: story I got for y'all. Thanks for everybody, as you 1200 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,240 Speaker 2: can always find us online Ridiculous Crime on the social media, 1201 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:19,640 Speaker 2: primarily the Blue Ski the Instagram. I think there you go, 1202 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,640 Speaker 2: so yeah. 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Diculous Crime 1210 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,960 Speaker 2: is hosted by Elizabeth Dutton and Zaron Burnette, produced and 1211 00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:54,200 Speaker 2: edited by our resident Newdiest acting Mayor of Flavortown, Dave Houston, 1212 00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:58,120 Speaker 2: and starring Etaalis Rutger as Judith. Research is by the 1213 00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:02,760 Speaker 2: French detective cosplayers Rissa Brown and Alex French. Our theme 1214 01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,200 Speaker 2: song is by our naked house band Freak Daddy and 1215 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:09,040 Speaker 2: the Voice aka Thomas Lee and Travis Dudley. The host 1216 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,840 Speaker 2: wardrobe provided by Botany five, guest hair and makeup by 1217 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 2: Sparkleshot and Mister Andre. Executive producers are the Inventors. 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