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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: The story feels like a modern echo of Preston Tucker.

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Speaker 2: Is yeah, that nineteen forty eight Tucker sedan and he

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Speaker 2: was crushed by industry giants. People may be familiar with

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Speaker 2: the movie Tucker starring Jeff Bridges. I mean, do you

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Speaker 2: see parallels in your fight with you and Preston Tucker.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I certainly can see those things.

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Speaker 4: However, it is a new age. It is a new

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Speaker 4: time now, especially with the nature of social media. So

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Speaker 4: I think what's fascinating about that is that the public

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Speaker 4: can see this happening like right now and directly. For instance,

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Speaker 4: when I did the Malvern down test and zero sixty,

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Speaker 4: that's a lot of video.

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Speaker 3: You can see it.

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Speaker 4: And while there's a like a microscopic fraction of one

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Speaker 4: percent of people that just want to be trolls or

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Speaker 4: be like I'm skeptical, you're not real, right, I'm like really,

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Speaker 4: because I just did it in front of everybody's face

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Speaker 4: and called it eleven years ago, and everybody who's an

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Speaker 4: engineer worth half their SalCo went just looked at it

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Speaker 4: and went, oh wow, he actually did that. So regarding

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Speaker 4: Preston Tucker. You know, I think and I'm not as

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Speaker 4: familiar with that story to be as frank as some others.

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Speaker 4: You see how the powers that be don't want it

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Speaker 4: to be even with John Delorian. And you know, John

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Speaker 4: Delaurian's car was not trying to be wildly feel ficient

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Speaker 4: or something, but it was very different. And then were

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Speaker 4: powers that be that related from the British government to

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Speaker 4: literally the FBI just wanted a high profile target to

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Speaker 4: set up, and with John Delaurian, they literally changed the

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Speaker 4: laws on entrapment for what the FBI can or cannot do,

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Speaker 4: even though like that stops some of our most evil

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Speaker 4: alphabet agencies from.

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Speaker 3: Doing whatever they want, but they changed the laws after that.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm barking up trees that have been barked up,

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Speaker 4: only I'm probably doing it louder.

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Speaker 3: So that's fun, you know, But.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you take a step back and

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Speaker 4: look at that, and you look at the different people

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Speaker 4: that have tried to do things like this, and.

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Speaker 3: You know, it doesn't even have to be the automotive world.

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Speaker 4: I remember one person like in the at least the

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Speaker 4: thought of it in a parallel to Nikolai Tesla, and

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Speaker 4: I'm not by any me.

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Speaker 3: He's trying to compare myself to him. He was brilliant.

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Speaker 4: But I guess it all comes down to human nature

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Speaker 4: and the psychology of the masses, the psychology of the individual,

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Speaker 4: and the psychology of entities. With power, people always want

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Speaker 4: more power, and money is just a power. Control is

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Speaker 4: a power, A narrative is a power. The media is

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Speaker 4: a power. Why do we go about our daily lives

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Speaker 4: thinking that all of these things are.

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Speaker 3: Genuinely true or in everyone's best entry. They're not. I

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Speaker 3: don't know if they ever have been. And I don't

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Speaker 3: like that. You know, I'm an individual.

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Speaker 4: I think of communities, I think of nations, I think

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Speaker 4: of the world. I like the environment, even though somehow

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Speaker 4: we've made that be a politicized type thing outside the

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Speaker 4: scope of reason. So why can't we just do things

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Speaker 4: that are in everybody's best interest rather than just a

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Speaker 4: few and then lie about it in a big way?

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Speaker 2: Does your engine burn cleaner? Does it burn cooler? Your engine?

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Speaker 2: Does it last longer?

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Speaker 4: I would say it lasts longer by virtue of being diesel.

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Speaker 4: It's good in that regard. And since the car itself

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Speaker 4: is highly efficient. That means there's a lot less physical

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Speaker 4: effort the engine has to be put through to do

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Speaker 4: what it is, and you're burning a lots less fuel,

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Speaker 4: so there's a lot less effort there too, So it's.

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Speaker 3: Going to last a long time. Actually, kind of glad

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Speaker 3: you said that.

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Speaker 4: I didn't even think to say that, But yeah, it'll

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Speaker 4: last a lot longer than the normal ice engines do.

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Speaker 3: And diesels go forever anyway, this one will go forever

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Speaker 3: in a day. How about that? And what comes out

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Speaker 3: the tailpipe? Is it?

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Speaker 2: You know, less noxious fumes?

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Speaker 3: You know, that's an interesting thing.

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Speaker 4: It's still an ice engine, however, because by virtue of

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Speaker 4: burning the unit that we typically think of as a gallon,

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Speaker 4: you know, or a leader, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: You pick your you know, your unit.

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Speaker 4: If you're burning a lot less for distance you're going, well,

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Speaker 4: people only need to go to the distance they need

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Speaker 3: So guess what, it has less emissions.

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Speaker 4: And that's such a fascinating point that powers that be

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Speaker 4: in the narrative want everybody to forget about. Because let's say,

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Speaker 4: hypothetically you have a situation where let's imagine an engine,

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Speaker 4: maybe it gets ten percent higher missions per a test

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Speaker 4: they do. But what happens if the mileage, you know,

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Speaker 4: is one hundred percent better or one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 4: or two hundred percent better. Okay, well, then it's a

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Speaker 4: net decrease in emissions. Ah, but there's ways for things

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Speaker 4: to argue about that in a test than to say

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Speaker 4: to the world the mass populace said, oh, it's good permissions.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, what.

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Speaker 4: It's like barely over and the thing's getting hundreds of

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Speaker 3: So it's a net decrease. So I wanted to bring

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Speaker 4: Naturally, with diesel being energy dense and such, there is

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Speaker 4: the possibility for some higher emissions, but there's ways to

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Speaker 4: mitigate that, there's ways to do better. So I frankly think,

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Speaker 4: based upon basic observation, that the consideration of emissions maybe

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Speaker 4: originally had good intention for sake of the environment such,

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Speaker 4: but it's been mutated for power and control to keep

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Speaker 4: things to be a certain way because don't question this.

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Speaker 4: So and I think that's also the nature the time

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Speaker 4: we live in now, and I see that globally politically,

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Speaker 4: that everything that the politicians in power be that's like,

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Speaker 4: we're doing this for your best interest, whether it's environmentally

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Speaker 4: or socially or economically. Oh no, it's not. It is

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Speaker 4: literally all about power and control. So if people are

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Speaker 4: coming about things and saying they're going to do something,

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Speaker 4: it's like, what's your solution. Oh, you want more power

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Speaker 4: and you want to tax everybody more. Yeah, that's not

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Speaker 4: a solusion.

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Speaker 3: One hundred miles per gallon?

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Speaker 2: Is that the upper limit or is the sky the limit?

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Speaker 3: Not at all? No, not at all. That's that's the beginning.

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Speaker 4: People just like the hundred batllle of gallon mark because

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Speaker 4: it's three digits. The first time out, I got one

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Speaker 4: hundred and four point seventy two miles of gallon is

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Speaker 4: driving it normally with stop signs and stuff. That was

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Speaker 4: without all the aerodynamic fairings on. That was without any

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Speaker 4: other tuning. That's without any optimization. Keep in mind, I'm

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Speaker 4: one guy that you know built cars and finished racing

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Speaker 4: building stuff and turning a wrench, But I don't have

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Speaker 4: billions of dollars.

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Speaker 3: Worth of development.

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Speaker 4: I have a feeling the next time out, when I

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Speaker 4: be getting the one hundred and twenty eight miles to

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Speaker 4: up being one ounce per mile. Yeah, it'll be a

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Speaker 4: lot more so. And the other thing is it shouldn't

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Speaker 4: there's no traffic control. I Franklin didn't want to break

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Speaker 4: it because it's the only one I have. It took

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Speaker 4: a long time to build. But again, think of that, everybody.

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Speaker 4: I'm one guy, okay, uh, and I designed this in

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Speaker 3: There's no billions and millions of dollars worth of development.

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Speaker 3: This is just thinking. This is just good basic design

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Speaker 4: Or let's all think for a second what I could

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Speaker 3: I could promise issue, it'll be even better than that.

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Speaker 2: How long did it take you to build a one

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Speaker 4: I built that sucker back in now two thy twelve,

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Speaker 3: You know, it was about like six to.

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Speaker 4: Eight months, had a little help here and there, just

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Speaker 4: And then when I finished it, I didn't finish wiring

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Speaker 4: it just because I mean, the whole car was done

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Speaker 4: And what's funny. People may be thinking, well, why did

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Speaker 4: talking about it. Well, everybody's got to make a living, so.

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Speaker 3: You know, you got to keep going. You can't just

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Speaker 4: But the biggest thing was I showed it at one fancy,

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Speaker 4: I think I might have bored them a little bit,

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Speaker 3: I talked too long and everybody went back to having

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Speaker 3: But after that, it's sort of like sort of dawn

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Speaker 4: I was like, I kind of went into reclusion with

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Speaker 3: The wiring and didn't test it.

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Speaker 4: The biggest reason I have is I knew I didn't

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Speaker 3: So I just covered it in.

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Speaker 4: My garage literally for basically a decade, and I would

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Speaker 3: And I think back in maybe twenty seventeen, repainted it

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Speaker 4: And a few years ago, with my Genius Garage program,

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Speaker 4: get awesome jobs, amazing jobs. Actually, I just helped one

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Speaker 4: wanted to help one young man with getting hired a

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Speaker 4: startup and he was really interested in efficiency, and we

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Speaker 4: take it around with it together. Outside of just doing

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Speaker 4: I didn't finish it again. I just hit the car

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Speaker 4: again for a few years. But last year, which was

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Speaker 4: and just simply observing all of the different political narratives

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Speaker 4: a fifth generation informational World War of propaganda on planet Earth.

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