WEBVTT - FFW Micro - Miles Sanders

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<v Speaker 1>You found Fantasy Football Weekly Micro, a deep dive on one.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, here's your host, Paul Chargian. It's Fantasy Football Weekly Micro. Addition,

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<v Speaker 1>I am Paul Charchian. My co host is Guillotine Leagues

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<v Speaker 1>dot com writer Tyler Cannabilee.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello. I am ready to talk some

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<v Speaker 2>more football than I am ready to talk football every day.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know, I love that. I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>The offseason excitement. I know you're in a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>best ball leagues already.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in an absurd of draft.

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<v Speaker 3>It never ends, baby, and we love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we're talking Miles Sanders. Caroline is not the juiciest

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<v Speaker 1>of landing spots for Miles Sanders, but the opportunity is there.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at Don de Foreman was a Fantasy viable player

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<v Speaker 1>last year after Christian McCaffrey left for Pete's sake.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, new coaching staff this year in Carolina, obviously. But

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of went into this thinking I'm not really

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<v Speaker 2>gonna like Miles Sanders when I'm doing the research whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>But I was actually kind of pleasantly surprised by some

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<v Speaker 2>of the stuff I found.

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<v Speaker 3>All Right, Yeah, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's dig a yeah, let's do it. Twenty twenty two finished,

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<v Speaker 2>he was the RB thirteen in Philly, RB eighteen and

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<v Speaker 2>average points per game. This year he's going off the

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<v Speaker 2>board is RB seventeen, so around kind of the same

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<v Speaker 2>place where he finished last year. And that's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>when I was like, oh, he went from Philly to Carolina,

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<v Speaker 2>he's being drafted the same part. That doesn't make any

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<v Speaker 2>sense to me. But then I kind of dove in.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, he doesn't have Jalen Hurts stealing double digit rushing

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<v Speaker 1>touchdowns from him.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fair. But I remember we broke When we broke down,

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<v Speaker 2>Jonathan Taylor mentioned that Miles Sanders had I think the

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<v Speaker 2>second most red zone carries. I think it was, So

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<v Speaker 2>that was one thing I really liked about Miles Sanders

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<v Speaker 2>in Phillies. They just ran the ball at the ten,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty and five all that. So let's kind of break

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<v Speaker 2>down going from Philly to Carolina. So last year Philly

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<v Speaker 2>was second in points per game, Carolina was nineteenth, probably

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be worse now, all things considered. Philadelphia's old line

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<v Speaker 2>was third in run block PFF grade, Carolinas was twenty second.

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<v Speaker 3>These are sizeable down grades.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and then Philly has just a great culture and identity.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they're gonna run the football, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>they are. Carolina, as a first year head coach rookie quarterback,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't really know what it's gonna look like, which

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<v Speaker 2>can be good, but it can also be really bad.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's kind of the the first part of Sanders.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is the good news. When I was really

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<v Speaker 2>starting to dig into some stuff, they paid him a

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<v Speaker 2>good amount of money to be the main guy there.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Sanders should be the lead guy. And bad

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<v Speaker 2>teams often have, like they have struggling quarterbacks, so they

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<v Speaker 2>run a lot. For the top five teams in rushing

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<v Speaker 2>attempts last season were non playoff teams, right, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have a new quarterback, right, Yeah, we'll probably I

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<v Speaker 2>think it'll be Bryce Young.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're not gonna ask Bryce Young to throw the

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<v Speaker 1>ball forty times a game. You know you're gonna you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna ease in your rookie quarterback by having a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of running plays. And I think that's why you see,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, struggling teams don't have good quarterbacks. Struggling teams

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<v Speaker 1>run a lot they try to win and play ball control.

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<v Speaker 3>That could be Carolina this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Another thing we broke down on that Jonathan Taylor

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<v Speaker 2>episode was the finishes of the running backs when rookie

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<v Speaker 2>QBS come in. Now, it wasn't any top ten finishes,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're not drafting as the top ten guy. You're

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<v Speaker 2>drafted him in that mid seventeen, mid that mid teams range,

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<v Speaker 2>which is where those guys were finishing. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's a very I want to say safe because it's Carolina,

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<v Speaker 2>but it seemingly seems safe. And another thing that's safe

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<v Speaker 2>to assume is I think Miles Sanders just get a

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<v Speaker 2>whole bunch of rushing attempts with frank Wright calling the plays.

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<v Speaker 2>So because I dug into all the rushing attempts going

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<v Speaker 2>back to twenty sixteen when he was the coordinator for

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<v Speaker 2>the Eagles, these were his team ranks in just pure

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<v Speaker 2>rushing attempts.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So we were go rushing attempt ranks with frank

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<v Speaker 1>Wright as offensive.

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<v Speaker 2>Course, yes, or head coach or head coach.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're gonna go to Indy as well?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Okay, So this is Eagles to Indy, frank Wright

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<v Speaker 1>rushing offensive rushing attempts got it.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty sixteen, they ranked tenth with Ryan Matthews, Darren sprowl

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<v Speaker 2>Wendel Smallwood as their running back. Those are their leading rushers. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty seventeen, they were six with Lagerret Blunt, Jaygi twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>They were seventeenth with Marlon Mack twenty nineteen. So we're

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<v Speaker 2>on the Colts now. They were fifth with Marlon Mack

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty. They were tenth with JT. Twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>They were fifth with JT. I didn't include last year

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<v Speaker 2>because he got fired. It just I just threw out last.

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<v Speaker 1>Year, so that's fine, and he did get fired early

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<v Speaker 1>and everything went wrong last year. Yes, So for Frank Reich,

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<v Speaker 1>what you know if you roll that together, In five

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<v Speaker 1>of the six years in which he was oftense coordinate

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<v Speaker 1>or head coach, his teams have finished as a top

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<v Speaker 1>ten running rushing attempts team. And that's probably coming here

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<v Speaker 1>and here comes Miles Sanders.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I say arming up as well. It feels

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<v Speaker 2>safe to me. I just don't think the upside is there,

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<v Speaker 2>which it kind of depends what kind of fantasy player

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<v Speaker 2>you are. Are you going to be like, Oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm gonna get from Miles Sanders. I'm cool

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<v Speaker 2>with the anyway, from RB twenty two to maybe RB

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen range like that, I feel like that's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>what you're gonna get from Miles Sanders. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>he has that top ten, top five upside. That's something

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<v Speaker 2>certainly not.

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<v Speaker 1>A PPR right at least, Billing never used him as

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<v Speaker 1>a receiver at all. I mean he was down to

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<v Speaker 1>like half a catch a game. It was barely. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're totally unused in that way, and I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>he can't catch better than Eagles used him. Maybe, but

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<v Speaker 1>that would be I think, given just knowing that he's

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<v Speaker 1>probably sitting on a twenty catch season, that I think

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<v Speaker 1>that that keeps Miles Sanders out of the conversation as

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<v Speaker 1>a top probably ten running back. But wouldn't surprise me

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<v Speaker 1>if he finished tenth.

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<v Speaker 2>It wouldn't surprise me if you finished tenth. I just

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's very likely that he will, just because

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<v Speaker 2>we mentioned the receptions and just the offense seems capped.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not going to be a top ten scoring offense. Probably.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like a top fifteen scoring offense. I would

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<v Speaker 2>assume he probably will be. He's the best playmaker they

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<v Speaker 2>have on their team right now. He's better than Feeling

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<v Speaker 2>Chark and terras Mart.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good, but that also probably gonna draft somebody. But

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see. I mean, he's he's gonna get the attempts,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all we know for sure. And if you love

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<v Speaker 2>attempts and you love volume like I do, then he's

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<v Speaker 2>a great pick.

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<v Speaker 1>The kind of a player Miles Sanders is is good

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<v Speaker 1>for Guillotine because you're just fliever. Guys will get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of usage. You know, he's gonna be sixty to

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and twenty yards every game. I had coin

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<v Speaker 1>Flip's chance of a touchdown. I don't see Miles Sanders

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<v Speaker 1>getting ever, the usage is never going to be so low.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not going to give you the six.

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<v Speaker 1>Carry for fourteen yard game that gets you chopped in

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<v Speaker 1>a guillotine league.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, weeks one through like thirteen, he's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>a great pick for geting right.

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<v Speaker 3>He says, the season wears on, you won't you'll need less.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but when you need like twenty five points, he

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<v Speaker 2>might not be at the end of.

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<v Speaker 3>The year, he might not be your guy.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So let's talk about Sanders from a dynasty

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<v Speaker 1>empire standpoint. What are your what are your thoughts on

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<v Speaker 1>him now? And what Sanderson must be what twenty five, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>is years old? I'm gonna guess you're feverishly typing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, twenty five years old? You're right?

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty five?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, So the good news is pretty low mileage for

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who's been the ostensible starter now for several years,

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<v Speaker 1>because they've used such a committee in Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he did you sign? I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>a two year deal or a three year deal. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't remember exactly which one, but he will be there

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<v Speaker 2>for a little bit here and by he said he's

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five of two or three years, twenty seven, twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of be on the last legs of his career.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, Obviously, if you're a rebuilding team setting, you're out.

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<v Speaker 2>You're probably out of Miles Sanders. But if you are

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<v Speaker 2>like a kind of that fringe or even a competing team,

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<v Speaker 2>he's like a great kind of If you if he

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<v Speaker 2>have Miles Sanders in your flex, I feel really good

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<v Speaker 2>about that. If you were a kind of a contending

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<v Speaker 2>team this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if I'm a win now team, if I'm playing

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<v Speaker 1>to win in twenty twenty three in my dynasty league,

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<v Speaker 1>and I see Miles Sanders sitting on a roster of

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<v Speaker 1>a rebuilding team, I'm attacking.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's exactly that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that guy doesn't want to keep Miles Sanders,

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<v Speaker 1>and he could. He could be a great flex option

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<v Speaker 1>for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you can kind of probably get him for

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<v Speaker 2>a low price. You don't pay that high for Miles Sanders, No,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to cost me a second round. He's going

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<v Speaker 1>to cost me a second rounder in this year's rookie draft.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye, I'll pay that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's not a blue chip name where like, especially

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<v Speaker 2>if you're in a casual league, friends be like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Miles Sanders for one of these new exciting works. You

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<v Speaker 2>gotta wait till after the draft. That's when you got

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<v Speaker 2>to get him. Is Oh, look at Charbona just landed

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<v Speaker 2>on the Cardinals. He's going to be the only guy there.

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<v Speaker 2>Just trade for Miles Sanders.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's going around Miles Sanders in drafts right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So this is where it gets pretty interesting. Najie

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<v Speaker 2>Harris RB fourteen. Well, we just talked about the last one.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd rather Miles Sanders.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Same, Aaron Jones RB fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, this is frustrating because I love Aaron Jones as

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<v Speaker 1>a player, but we know that he's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>in a timeshare. He's going to be a timeshare back,

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<v Speaker 1>and that gives you too many dud performances. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>taking Miles Sanders.

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<v Speaker 2>Dalvin Cook RB sixteen. Now do you have the scoop

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<v Speaker 2>on Dalvin Cook? I'm not talking. Okay, you know something.

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<v Speaker 1>I would I'll just say this. I'm taking Miles Sanders.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay. David Montgomery RB. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Roads lead back to David Montgomery, who he seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about every week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we were talking about all the guys in this range.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, for the reason if you heard the David

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<v Speaker 1>Montgomery Fantasy Football what micro we did? Now what a

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<v Speaker 1>week and a half ago or something a week ago?

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<v Speaker 1>I like I like Montgomery a lot. I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more upside than most people do. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>taking Montgomery here and he'll catch a little bit. Sanders

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<v Speaker 1>probably won't.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll take Montgomery and then JK. Dobbins Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I love JK.

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<v Speaker 2>Dobbins too, which bloody they're kind of in the same

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<v Speaker 2>role right now. Miles Standers might get a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more carries, but I think the offense in Baltimore is

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<v Speaker 2>a lot better, especially with Todd Munkin, who seems all

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<v Speaker 2>accounts hem to be a pretty good play caller.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's gonna be way more balanced offense in Baltimore,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. I'm gonna take Dobbins just based on the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that he was shocking. He was shockingly good last year,

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<v Speaker 1>even when you know he shouldn't have been, and it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't turn into fans. He wasn't fantasy good. But if

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<v Speaker 1>he broke down like all of his advanced metrics and

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<v Speaker 1>everything in the stats, he was good. I'm taking I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just taking down, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>One last question, just for fun, you need a flex player.

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<v Speaker 2>It's week fourteen of the Guillotine on the on the

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<v Speaker 2>waiver wire. Miles Sanders and Odell beckham Junior. Who you're taking.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so out on Odell Beckham Man was not a

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<v Speaker 1>bad signing.

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<v Speaker 3>Geez.

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<v Speaker 1>You know the Ravens off front office does so many

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<v Speaker 1>things well, I can't believe that they they bid against

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<v Speaker 1>themselves and gave big money to Odell Beckham for this year.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't I don't understand the thinking at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a little higher on Odell the player than I

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<v Speaker 2>think some people might be. But the money they gave him,

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<v Speaker 2>it is for one year, So if you have the

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<v Speaker 2>space this year, you might as well do it. But

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<v Speaker 2>was it up to seventeen million dollars?

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<v Speaker 3>That's crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>That is like, that's like Devontae Adams money. Maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>little lower, but that's that's top Yeah, eight wide receiver

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<v Speaker 2>money absurd.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody else is gonna pay them anything close to that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>God bless Odell Beckham's agent. You are amazing. When we

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<v Speaker 1>come up back tomorrow, Fantasy Football Weekly, microwud Dish and

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<v Speaker 1>our third straight running back and another guy who looks

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<v Speaker 1>to be, at least for the moment, carrying his offense.

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<v Speaker 1>Who are we gonna break down?

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna be breakdown, fellow NFC South running back Rashad White.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, tune in too, myrow everybody, Bye bye,