1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants huddle on giants 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: dot Com the Giants of the Giants podcast Network. Welcome 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: to another edition of the Giants Hunnele Podcast. I'm Paul 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: de Tino. We continue to take a look at the 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: Giants head coaching candidates, and as you all know, Joe Shane, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: the new Giants general manager, has a history with the 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. He just came from upstate New York and 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: South Capaccio is the Buffalo Bills radio sideline reporter who's 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: been around the team for quite a long time and 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 1: can offer some insight as to two up the head 11 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: coaching candidates. Already confirmed to be talking to the Giants 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator Leslie Fraser, sixty two years old. We know 13 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: about his playing background with the Chicago Bears back in 14 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: the eighties, but South, from your perspective, what are the 15 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: types of traits that he has brought to the table 16 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: to the Bills that he might be able to use 17 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: as the Giants head coach if he should get named. 18 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: We know he already has had a chance to run 19 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: the Vikings for a few years some time ago. Well, 20 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: first of all, Paul, thanks for having me on always 21 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: good to talk to you. You know, Leslie is the 22 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: kind of guy that really builds a bond with his players. 23 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: He's a calming of the water, so to speak. So 24 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: I would say any organization, and I know what just 25 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: happened with Joe Judge over there in New York, any 26 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: organization that may might need somebody to kind of kind 27 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: of calm things down a bit if it's a little 28 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: bit chaotic, I think Leslie would be the perfect fit. 29 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: He's just got the demeanor and personality he's not. He's 30 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: he's the opposite of Rex Ryan, if you will, you know, 31 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: if if you know what I mean, and we had 32 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: Rex Ryan. You guys know about him in New York 33 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: with the Jets, But he's not that kind of guy. 34 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: He's not the guy that's out there it's gonna be 35 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: making headlines and a boisterous or anything. He's calm, he's collective. 36 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: His players really respect him. He has a great pedigree 37 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: as he played in this league, led the eighty five 38 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: Bears and interceptions, was a head coach in this league 39 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: and now I think under Sean McDermott too. He's really 40 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: kind of home to skills. He's the assistant head coach. 41 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: By the way, on the Buffalo Boes, he's not just 42 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator, so he also has had, you know, 43 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: that experience on top of being an actual head coach. 44 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: So that's the thing. When you talk to players, the 45 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: first thing they talk about is how he's a leader 46 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: of men. You know, he's so respected for the way 47 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: that he treats his players and how knowledgeable he is. 48 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: How much, if at all, do his current players talk 49 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: about the fact that he played on a Super Bowl 50 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: championship team, very successful player with the Bears. Does that 51 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: carry extra credit, doesn't seem to matter to today's player 52 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: at all? Or is that too many years removed. Well, 53 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: I think most players kind of might not even realize 54 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: it unless it's brought up. We've joked with some players 55 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: about in the past, and I think they realized, like 56 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: how good of player Leslie was in his day. I've 57 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: had lots of conversations. I love the nostalgia with him. 58 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: He's great to talk to about. If you ask him 59 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: about the eighty five Bears or those Bears teams, you 60 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: go back to those days and the battles with the 61 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: Giants of the forty nine. He's great to talk to 62 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: about that. Um, I think some of the guys have 63 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: been around him a little bit wild, like Jordan Employer 64 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: and Mica Hide, guys like that. They've they've had conversations 65 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,679 Speaker 1: with him, and I think they really respect the time 66 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: that he's put in the league. And of course, anytime 67 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: you have a guy that has played in the league 68 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: at that type of love, I think they command a 69 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: little more respect when they walk in the room. Like 70 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: guys know they put in the work, they know what 71 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: they're going through. Granted it's what forty years later or 72 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: whatever now thirty five years later, but of course you 73 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: know they respect that and they know about it. What if, 74 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: if anything, has he talked about in terms of learning 75 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: from his experience as a head coach with the Minnesota Vikings. 76 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: Maybe he doesn't talk about it much at all, but 77 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: I would imagine that over the course of time he 78 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 1: is disgusting. Yeah, you know, I remember a couple of 79 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: years ago he was um in line to maybe become 80 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: the head coach of the Cults, but then they have 81 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: ultimately hired Frank Reich. Of course he he was getting 82 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: looks then as well, and I remember we we we 83 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: chatted with him about that in his first time around 84 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: and what he learned, And you know, I think a 85 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: lot of these guys will tell you the same things. 86 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: You you never know when these opportunities you're gonna come 87 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: and you have to make the most of it, and 88 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: you have to really lean on people and bring the 89 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: right people and build people. And you know, I wouldn't 90 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: say Leslie has specifically said that, but I think that's 91 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: generally the tenor that's come out of a lot of 92 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: these guys that we've talked to who had that opportunity. 93 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: And I think Leslie, to me, what he's probably learned 94 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: being around Let's remember he's from the Andy Reid Tree, 95 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: just like Sean McDermott. You know, he he branched off. 96 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: He was there in the early two thousands. Uh, he 97 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: coached under Tony Dungee. He now he ran his own program. 98 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: He's coached under Sean McDermott. And I think that when 99 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: you have that kind of experience, I think you realize 100 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: the kind of people you need to have around you. 101 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: Sean went through that. You know, when Sean was hired 102 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: in Buffalo his first year, he couldn't really bring the 103 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: staff and he necessarily wanted It's hard for a first 104 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: year head coach to do that. You gotta wait a 105 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: little bit. You start to get those relationships and you 106 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: know you're hired. Guys have are on other staffs. One 107 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: thing he did, Sean, he brought Leslie in to be 108 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: that guy, to be a guy that surround himself with 109 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: and I think Leslie understood that's those are the kinds 110 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: of people you gotta surround yourself with. People you can 111 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: lean on, that you trust, who have your best interests 112 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: in heart. They're not just looking to yeah, I'll join 113 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: you because I'm looking for my next head coaching gig right, 114 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: everybody's got to be in it to help out the 115 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: person that they're trying to be successful with. So, if 116 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: he were to become a head coach, whether it's here 117 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: with the Giants or some other team during the course 118 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: of this offseason, do you think he would be more 119 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: of a CEO head coach or would he be more 120 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: of a guy who's hands on, specifically with the defensive 121 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: side of the ball, since that's where most of his 122 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: experience is. I think Leslie would probably be a very 123 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: good CEO type of coach. He would delegate, However, I 124 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if he called the defense. I don't know. 125 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: I have to go back to if even did it 126 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: in Minnesota. I will tell you here in Buffalo, he 127 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: does call the defense. Sean has said, hey, it's not 128 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: my defense, it's Leslie Fraser's. He even said after one 129 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: of the games, let's be clear, Leslie Fraser calls the 130 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: defense here. But we all know it's Sean McDermott's philosophy 131 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: that he's calling the defense under as well. And I 132 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: think Leslie would either probably take the approach of either 133 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: calling the defense or hey, I'm gonna hire a really 134 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: solid defensive coordinator, let him do his job. It'll be 135 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: us in tandem in my philosophy, and I'll have a 136 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: say in what happens and being part of the game planning. 137 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: But I Leslie is not to me like I know 138 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: this sounds like a negative word, like selfish. I don't 139 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 1: think head coaches are do it necessarily selfish. But I 140 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: think he understands that, you know, it's not about him, 141 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: it's about the people he brings in and trusting those people. 142 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: And I think that he would do that. Let me 143 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: ask you this, so and and I no no, we 144 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: don't get to watch a lot of practice anymore as 145 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: media folks, you know, they really kind of shut most 146 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: of it out. But from what you can tell, does 147 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: it look like Frasier is more of a teacher type 148 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: of coach or is he a guy who relies more 149 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: on the players to kind of just follow the plans 150 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: of what he's laying out Teacher teacher. I'll go back 151 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: to Rex Ryan again and use that as an example 152 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: that he was the opposite. Rex Ryan and his coaching 153 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: staff basically said, hey, we know how to coach, and 154 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: here's what we're gonna tell you to do. Now go 155 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: do it, um, you know, and then if you don't 156 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: do it, they get upset that you didn't know how 157 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: to do it. Maybe, but you know, you come back 158 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: here and it's Leslie Frasier and it's all about teaching. 159 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: It's all about fundamentals. I one of the things look back, 160 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: I mean, and this goes to Joe Shane by the 161 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: way as well, and him being a part of this program. 162 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: I will tell you, Paul, you know, I've followed this 163 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: team since the eighties and through four Super Bowls and 164 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: all that stuff. The player development in this organization. Nolan 165 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: Buffalo was his best as it's ever been. And that 166 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: goes directly from Brandon being to Joe Shane when he 167 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: was here, to Sean McDermott and Leslie, Frasier and Table. 168 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: They are developing players, they are teachers, they have a 169 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: process in place. The jump that these guys take specifically, 170 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: it's really weird. From year two to year three. Some 171 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: of the jumps these guys make are remarkable. We're seeing 172 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: it this year from Ed Oliver, Josh Allen from year two, 173 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: year three, Tarn Johnson the nickel corner, Dawson Knox the 174 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: year two to year three jump, and I think that's 175 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: a big testament to a guy like Leslie and his 176 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: coaches around him. By the way, Bob Babbage, you know 177 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: his linebackers coach, Eric Washington now is de line coach. 178 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: They've had a couple of those, Um John Butler whose 179 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: secondary coach. Those guys, you know, they follow Leslie's pains. 180 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: They're all teachers. They always talk about teachers and by 181 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: the way, teaching everybody on the roster it's one through 182 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: ninety basically because you never know they will they will 183 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: not care where you were drafted. When you were drafted, 184 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: how you were signed. How much fune do you make 185 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: you know you're gonna get taught and coach the same way. 186 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: How would you characterize, since you said that he has 187 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: had so much of an input on the defense, how 188 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: would you characterize what his defense brings to the table, 189 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: assuming that he would want his whole team to bring 190 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,559 Speaker 1: that to the table if he were a head guy. Yeah, 191 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: it's um. It's a fourth three is what he runs. 192 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: And they're very um. They don't blitz a ton now. Granted, 193 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: I think Leslie Morse with this personnel, we have seen 194 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: that a little bit. You know, they play a lot 195 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: of zone defense. They're not a real man a man 196 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: defense to allow trade abvious White to you know, shadow 197 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: a guy here there, and they have done that obviously. 198 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: Trude Avious hasn't played because he's been injured, but I 199 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: think he likes to play. It's really outside the hallmark 200 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: of Sean McDermott and Leslie Fraser's defense as they've been 201 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: here is where the superstars other than td Avious White. Yeah, 202 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: you have Jordan Poyer, Michael High. These aren't guys. Jordan 203 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: Poyer might have been an All Pro this year. It 204 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: is truly a team oriented, eleven man defense. Everyone responsible 205 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: for doing their jobs and if everyone does that, we're 206 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: gonna be very, very good. They have been near the 207 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: top and now this year, at the top of the league. 208 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: Every single year except for one, they've been here in 209 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: the last five and it really speaks to because you look, 210 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: they have a Miles Garrett over there, they have an 211 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald over there. Right, they might have a true 212 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: devious White and two really great safeties, but really it's 213 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: all about everybody just doing their job and being coached 214 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: well and understanding the philosophy and planning it out and 215 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: performing it. I know this is probably the hardest jan 216 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,599 Speaker 1: I'll ask your sal but if he were named a 217 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: head coach, he's obviously going to have to get himself 218 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: a really good offensive coordinator. Would you have any thoughts 219 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: about the kind of offense that he would like to 220 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: see one under him as a head coach? Yeah, I 221 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: don't know. It is a tough question, but I would 222 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: say this, the Bills have shifted since they got Josh 223 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 1: Allen to a team that loves to sling the ball 224 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: around and letting their elite quarterback do what he needs 225 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: to do. I would guess and think, you know, Leslie, 226 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: I'm great. Here's the guy who played for the eighty 227 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 1: five Bears, right, and you have Walter Payton and Fridge 228 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: and Jim McMann as a quarterback, and they would rely 229 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: to the defense. But he's seen enough in this league. 230 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: He's been around it. He was there with Donovan McNabb 231 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: in the early two thousand's, right, and now he's here 232 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: with Josh Allen. I I think Leslie would to me, 233 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: and he'd be foolish not to, but I think he 234 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: would understand that, hey, have I whatever I have, did 235 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: my disposal allow me to use if I can get 236 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: a quarterback like Josh Allen, whoever I have here, whatever 237 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 1: skill set Daniel Jones brings that he feels after evaluation, 238 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: they would allow that offense to kind of flourish and 239 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 1: do that. Um So, I don't know if he'd look 240 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: for one particular trait other than someone who's willing to 241 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: change with the personnel after being here in Buffalo and 242 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: seeing how they had to do that. That is Sal Capacrio, 243 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: the Bills radio sideline reporter, talking about Leslie Frasier, defensive 244 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: coordinator and assistant head coach for the Buffalo Bills, now 245 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 1: a candidate as a possible head coach for the New 246 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: York Giants.