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Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. I hope you're having

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Speaker 1: a great day. It's a football Friday. College football is

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Speaker 1: here as we're at week zero. You made it, You

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Speaker 1: made it, You made it. We'll make fun of something

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Speaker 1: ESPN posted. That's always fun. Mark Dominical join us that's

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Speaker 1: always entered. Interesting A really interesting hypotheses from Jason Stewart

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Speaker 1: on Jerry Jones. I want to share that with you.

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Speaker 1: Uh I remier backpedaling like a defensive back and was

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick kind of privately raking the crafts. We got

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Speaker 1: a bunch to get to, but I want to start

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Speaker 1: with someone who Jay stew you worked with somebody who

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Speaker 1: I like, and we grew up watching play as one

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Speaker 1: of the greatest football players we've ever seen play. But

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Speaker 1: he did the thing that I just I find to

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Speaker 1: be not good, bizarre and sort of a credibility killer.

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Speaker 1: On the other hand, it is feeding the masses the

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Speaker 1: sugar that they so desire, even if it's bad for you,

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Speaker 1: even if it's bad for you. And like I remember

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Speaker 1: when when the president got elected his his first term,

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Speaker 1: and and I had I have several friends, black friends,

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Speaker 1: mixed race friends, and especially friends from their foreign friends,

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Speaker 1: of for me, I did not know there was a

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Speaker 1: level of xenophobia and racism that was being promoted. On

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Speaker 1: the other hand, some of it I had to take

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Speaker 1: a step back and go, Okay, how much of this

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Speaker 1: is real? How much of this is And when I

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Speaker 1: say media created, it's the media is drawn to the

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Speaker 1: fringes left and right right. But I'm just somebody. And Jason,

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Speaker 1: I think you can I don't know if you're can

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Speaker 1: attest to this or not. When you grew up in California,

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Speaker 1: it's so weird to hear people talk like racial politics.

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Speaker 1: And I know that California there's become a level of

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Speaker 1: racial politics. But again, you grew up and look you

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Speaker 1: grew up in a part of Orange County which was

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Speaker 1: middle income, and there were Hispanics as well. I grew

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Speaker 1: up in a very diverse part of Orange, California. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: playing basketball, y're surrounded by people of color. So when

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Speaker 1: I heard about, you know, like people saying there's still

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Speaker 1: all this racism, I was like, really, And then we

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Speaker 1: read about it, you watch on the news, You're like, well,

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Speaker 1: maybe there is. But then you settle back down to

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Speaker 1: the Hey, sports is a place where racism. We've generally

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Speaker 1: evolved out of it. Yes, we still use stereotypes fair, unfair,

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Speaker 1: the idea that and we've talked about this before with

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Speaker 1: Eric b Enemy, that because he was a black man,

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Speaker 1: he could get a head coaching job. When I've walked

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Speaker 1: five previous years probably, and Eric the Enemy was discussed

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Speaker 1: So that brings me to Eric Dickerson, Hall of Fame

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Speaker 1: super opinionated Hall of Fame former Ram and Colton on

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Speaker 1: Only they did right, Only they did Okay, I'm not

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Speaker 1: denying that Eric Dickerson knows NFL people. I'm not denying

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Speaker 1: Like I'm not sure about a lot of things. A

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Speaker 1: scientific factor is only ninety seven percent. This screws people

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Speaker 1: the very small chance, but a scientifically proven fact, it's

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Speaker 1: collusion to keep Shador Sanders out of the league because

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Speaker 1: And what's crazy is and this is where it's really

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Speaker 1: You know, we've we're employing conspiracy theorists to make major

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Speaker 1: This is Eric freaking Dickerson. This is two thousand yard season.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you that he's wrong. I'm telling you whoever

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Speaker 1: he's they're just gonna move on. Doesn't work out way.

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Speaker 1: You can't say that the NFL colluded to keep Shador

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Speaker 1: of course, like, ka, of course they would. Why why

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Speaker 1: would they? If Shadoor Sanders can win them football games?

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Speaker 1: Nobody cares. And the easiest example of that is the

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Speaker 1: actual who should be the starting quarterback of the Cleveland Browns, right,

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson was accused of sexual assault up to over

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Speaker 1: what Eric Dickerson's doing, and it it creates this vicious

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Speaker 1: cycle of well, it's because he's it's it's the loud

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Speaker 1: black guy that they want to keep out of like nobody, Now, well, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: But having a videographer, having listening to your own own

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Speaker 1: song on a you know, on a portable speaker, walking in,

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Speaker 1: not carrying your own bag, like lo, Bro, you're a

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Speaker 1: humble pie. But again, like I understand, we all understand

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Speaker 1: the position. And again I love people that want to

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Speaker 1: He's black, right, And there's the famous video with cam

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Speaker 1: sure the sun rise in the east and sets in

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Speaker 1: Sanders own proverbial draft day grave a grave. He and

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Speaker 1: his dad wanted to determine where they were going, and

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Speaker 1: you want to go buy sources that what we've heard

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Speaker 1: about the interviews is probably seventy five percent as bad

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Speaker 1: as the one hundred percent that it actually was. And

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Speaker 1: what happens in those interviews is everyone knows somebody like

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Speaker 1: we talked to in coaching, we talked to everybody, Like

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Speaker 1: I text with our rivals head coach on a day.

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Speaker 1: That's Bart Lundy at Milwaukee, Like like we openly they'll

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Speaker 1: take shots at us, will take shots, but like, look

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Speaker 1: but still we're in the same business and we're in

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Speaker 1: the same league, we're in the same state. Ever be

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Speaker 1: in the NFL talks, it's not collusion. If you go,

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Speaker 1: how is Shador You're not gonna believe this, But he

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Speaker 1: Dable at the whiteboard. You're not gonna believe this. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: that spreads. That's not collusion, that's sharing information. And they're

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Speaker 1: all like, I just I want nothing to do with that,

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Speaker 1: but that's not what Eric Dickerson said. What Eric Dickerson said, okay,

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Speaker 1: and we have it on tape is hey, I heard

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Speaker 1: somebody that somebody from the NFL called and say, do

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Speaker 1: not draft this guy. We want to make a point

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Speaker 1: of it. That is collusion. And again I don't think

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Speaker 1: I know that no one is that stupid. It's just

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Speaker 1: like people who say NBA games are fixed, because all

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Speaker 1: it takes is one person to send out one text,

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Speaker 1: and they had this exchange about Jim Harbaugh and the

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Speaker 7: Right, which he was never going to come back to

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Speaker 1: They don't take it easy on you. If you do,

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Speaker 1: This is such an interesting year, right, Like we've had

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Speaker 3: other cases you've got an interesting transfer or in the

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Speaker 3: case of Notre Dame, a recruit who has been there

430
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Speaker 3: a while just sort of waiting for his opportunity to

431
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Speaker 3: step into the limelight. So I think quarterback plays where

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Speaker 3: I go first. If I'm looking at the twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: five season, I think it's going to be just a

434
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Speaker 3: really interesting mix of guys that might hit, might not hit,

435
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Speaker 3: and like, just that variability across the board is going

436
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Speaker 3: to make things pretty wild.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So let's get to quarterbacks, because all the big

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Speaker 1: ones and some of the smaller ones has some interesting ones.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Texas Manning on the back of the jersey.

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Speaker 1: His name is arch right, there's a ton of hype

441
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Speaker 1: only he's started three games. What are your expectations for Archpanding.

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Speaker 3: My expectations for arch Manning is that, as we saw

443
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Speaker 3: a little bit last season, he's definitely more mobile than

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Speaker 3: his predecessor, Quinnewers, and I think they're going to use that,

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Speaker 3: especially in some of the situations that Texas found itself

446
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Speaker 3: in a lot last season. Down in the red zone

447
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Speaker 3: when they're trying to get the hard yards. They couldn't

448
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Speaker 3: put Quinn on the move because that just really wasn't

449
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Speaker 3: Quinn's game. But arch can do that. So I think

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Speaker 3: we're going to see a lot more of that this season,

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Speaker 3: and that makes Texas better and more dynamic on offense.

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Speaker 3: Where I'm a little bit concerned is they're rebuilding their

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Speaker 3: entire offensive line. So what kind of protection is arch

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Speaker 3: Manning going to get in a very very difficult sec

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Speaker 3: where everybody's defensive line is loaded. That ground game going

456
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Speaker 3: to look like around arch Manning to give him a

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Speaker 3: little bit more support, so it's not all on his shoulder.

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Speaker 3: And furthermore, like bigger picture with respect to Texas, it's

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Speaker 3: not the easiest schedule in the SEC. They've got some

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Speaker 3: tough road spots on that schedule. What is arch Manning

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Speaker 3: going to do when he's on the road in a

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Speaker 3: big spot. A lot remains to be seen. He's got

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Speaker 3: the pedigree. I think we expect that there's going to

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Speaker 3: be a base level of pretty good competency there. But

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Speaker 3: I am stopping short of penciling him in as like

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Speaker 3: a Heisman front runner as many have, just because there's

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Speaker 3: a lot new on that Texas side that we at

468
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Speaker 3: least need to mention if we're being honest about the

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Speaker 3: Longhorns this year.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Alabama, they have Ty Simpson program. Guy strikes me

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Speaker 1: as there's a little bit of brock perty there where

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Speaker 1: Alabama didn't go out and lay out a ton of

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Speaker 1: money to get a Shore fire starter. Here's a guy

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Speaker 1: who's been in the program and you know they have

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Speaker 1: all the talent around him. How do you think that

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Speaker 1: plays out?

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Speaker 3: I really like Alabama. I really like Ty Simpson, and

478
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Speaker 3: I really like the setup that he steps into now

479
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Speaker 3: with Kaylin de Boorr being reunited with his longtime deputy,

480
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Speaker 3: former offensive coordinator who is now back, They've gotten the

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Speaker 3: band back together. Ryan Grubb so that combo at the

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Speaker 3: top with the coaching staff is a pretty good start.

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Speaker 3: Ty Simpson I think fits the Alabama the Kaylin de

484
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Speaker 3: Boor system better than Jalen Milroe last season. He's clearly

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Speaker 3: not as mobile. You can't say anybody's as mobile as

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Speaker 3: Jalen Milroe, but he won't be as mistake prone as

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Speaker 3: I think Milroe was. He's definitely mobile enough where he

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Speaker 3: can move around the pocket. He's had some big runs

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Speaker 3: over the course of his career, just in very limited action,

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Speaker 3: and I think he gives them a little bit more

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Speaker 3: consistency with intermediate throws, working the ball down the field vertically.

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Speaker 3: So in terms of good situations, this is a pretty

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Speaker 3: good one for Ty Simpson to step into. And if

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Speaker 3: it doesn't work for Ty Simpson, they've got Austin Mack,

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Speaker 3: who they like came with Kayln de Boor from Washinghington.

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Speaker 3: They've also got Kelon Russell, who comes in one of

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Speaker 3: the highest rated quarterbacks this most recent recruiting cycle. So

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Speaker 3: it's a smart coaching staff. It's a really good supporting

499
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Speaker 3: cast that brings back more this season than we're used

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Speaker 3: to from any Alabama team I can remember in recent memory.

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Speaker 3: And so if it doesn't work with Simpson, it's gonna

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Speaker 3: work with one of the other guys. I think Alabama

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Speaker 3: is going to be just fine.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to Oklahoma. You know, Oklahoma had had

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Speaker 1: the savior last year, an Arnold, and he lasted three games.

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Speaker 1: Now you're bringing a proven commodity and his offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: from Washington State. But it's a as we see with

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Speaker 1: people trolling his Venmo account, it's a completely different world

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Speaker 1: when you get to the SEC. How does how does

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Speaker 1: how does that work?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I heard your spot talking about Jeometier and the Venmo

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Speaker 3: and it's it's a wild world, man. It's just you

514
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Speaker 3: step into the SEC and uh, you know, the gloves

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Speaker 3: come up.

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Speaker 1: I listen.

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Speaker 3: I like Jomettier. I like Ben Arbuckle. I like the

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Speaker 3: fact that at brand Vannibles is bringing them down as

519
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Speaker 3: a tandem. I think that's a good situation.

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Speaker 6: But only hesitation.

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Speaker 3: I guess there's two of them on the Matier front.

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Speaker 3: The first is played basically a Mountain West schedule last season. Like,

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Speaker 3: let's just call it what it is. It was a

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Speaker 3: Mountain West schedule last year for Washington State. He is

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Speaker 3: really good, But what does it look like. Now, does

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Speaker 3: that game translate to the SEC with just a murderer's

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Speaker 3: row of the schedule for Oklahoma this year. I don't

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Speaker 3: know the answer to that. I don't know if anybody does.

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Speaker 3: We're just sort of assuming that he's going to click

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Speaker 3: and that he's better than what they had, But I

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Speaker 3: don't know if anybody can necessarily say that for certain.

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Speaker 3: The second thing that I'm really curious about John Mattier

533
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Speaker 3: is a crazy good runner of the football. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he is electric when he's got the ball in his hands,

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Speaker 3: and when he's running. As a passer, there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of inconsistency. There's a lot of inconsistency there that I

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Speaker 3: think he's got some rough edges to his passing game.

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Speaker 3: He's going to need to shore that up again against

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Speaker 3: a really, really difficult schedule. Now again, he would have

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Speaker 3: been the leading rusher if you just look at his

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Speaker 3: numbers from you, he would have been the leading rusher

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Speaker 3: on Oklahoma all last season. Oklahoma had no ground game whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: They went out, they hit the portal hard. They're trying

544
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Speaker 3: to make things. I think Brent Vannables understood the assignment

545
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Speaker 3: this offseason. They needed to get better in a hurry,

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Speaker 3: in a bunch of different places. But Tier gives them that.

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Speaker 3: But I am not ready to fully commit to the

548
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Speaker 3: fact that this is just going to be the second

549
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Speaker 3: coming of Baker Mayfield that some have professed, because you

550
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Speaker 3: need to see him against better competition. You need to

551
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Speaker 3: see if he can improve as a passer.

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Speaker 1: Then you have Penn State, where everybody loves Drew Aller

553
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Speaker 1: but like again, and twenty four touchdowns is great. It's

554
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Speaker 1: it's not otherworldly, but really really good. But you have

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Speaker 1: James Franklin who doesn't beat the top ten teams. Right,

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Speaker 1: that's the narrative, and it's a fair narrative because we

557
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Speaker 1: have enough, we have a big enough sample size. They

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Speaker 1: play Oregon at home, they go to Ohio State, Nebraska

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Speaker 1: at home, and then potentially a Big Ten championship game.

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Speaker 1: Is this the year that Penn State finally wins those

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Speaker 1: big ones?

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Speaker 3: I think they'll win one of the big ones. So

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Speaker 3: I'm a Penn State grad and I've been hearing this

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Speaker 3: all off season, and it's a really interesting conversation when

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Speaker 3: you start layering on top of everything this playoff pipe,

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Speaker 3: this National championship pipe, with what I think the undercurrent

567
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Speaker 3: has been for the last couple of seasons, which is

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Speaker 3: exactly what you mentioned. Can they win the big one?

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Speaker 3: I think they can beat an Oregon at home. That's

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Speaker 3: a white out game at night. That's pretty advantageous. Oregon's

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Speaker 3: got a lot new including a quarterback. More to the

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Speaker 3: point than I made earlier, that's a setup for them

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Speaker 3: that I like. On the road against Ohio State. By

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Speaker 3: that point in the year, it's later on, it's going

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Speaker 3: to be a much more veteran Ohio State team than

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Speaker 3: it is right now. I'm not sure they win that game, Doug.

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Speaker 3: They've had a real hard time against Ohio State. They've

578
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Speaker 3: been close, but again, getting over that hump I think

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Speaker 3: is job won for Penn State this season. So I

580
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Speaker 3: think they beat Oregon. I think they lose to Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a good opportunity for them to get

582
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Speaker 3: revenge over Ohio State in a potential Big Ten championship game.

583
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Speaker 3: But we got to go one step at a time

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Speaker 3: here in the Penn State universe. Got to get one

585
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Speaker 3: of these monkeys off their back. Beat Oregon, beat Ohio State,

586
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Speaker 3: beat one of those two teams to at least give

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Speaker 3: us a proof of concept that you can win a

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Speaker 3: game of that magnitude before we start talking up big

589
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Speaker 3: ten titles, before we start talking up national championships. I

590
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Speaker 3: like Drew Aller. They've got so much back. It's hard

591
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Speaker 3: not to like this team. Full disclosure, I've got him

592
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Speaker 3: as my national champ. Maybe there's a little bit of

593
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Speaker 3: homersm there because I graduated from there, but alas, it's

594
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Speaker 3: hard to look at this team and feel differently. There's

595
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Speaker 3: a lot back. If ever there were a year for Franklin,

596
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Speaker 3: this would be it. So we'll see. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: All I can say is we'll see, and I'll give

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Speaker 3: you a shrug.

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Speaker 1: Speak speaking of a lot back you got. Clemson played

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Speaker 1: in the playoff last year, open up with LSU, and

601
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Speaker 1: they've been the anti portal. They've been the team retention

602
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Speaker 1: right that, that's been their narrative. Does it work this year?

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Speaker 3: I think so. I mean third year for Nick in

604
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Speaker 3: the offense. We saw him take big strides last season.

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Speaker 3: This is a team I believe that leads the nation

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Speaker 3: in returning production. They've got a schedule that features some

607
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Speaker 3: interesting bookends, right with the LSU game that you mentioned,

608
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Speaker 3: and they close out against South Carolina. But you'd be

609
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Speaker 3: hard pressed to find many teams in the schedule that

610
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Speaker 3: you don't look at, at least at first blush and say, oh, yeah,

611
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Speaker 3: that team's better than Clemson. That's just not the case.

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Speaker 3: Clemson's going to be better than most of the teams

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Speaker 3: that they play this year. They've got so much back.

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Speaker 3: I've got him as my preseason number one. I've got

615
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Speaker 3: him playing for the national championship. I think really highly

616
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Speaker 3: of this team. I think the counterpoint with Clemson is, well,

617
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Speaker 3: look at what they did last year. There was a

618
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Speaker 3: lot of inconsistency. There's still a lot that they need

619
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Speaker 3: to clean up. But to the point Dablo's got guys

620
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 3: in the system now that have been there a while.

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Speaker 3: We started to see his wide receiver corp grow up

622
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Speaker 3: a little bit last season. They had been lacking that

623
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Speaker 3: element of their game. They brought in a big time

624
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Speaker 3: running back via the heighth school ranks. I think all

625
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 3: of the ingredients are there for Clemson, provided they can

626
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Speaker 3: get a little bit more consistent and clean up some

627
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Speaker 3: of what woe done last year. I feel pretty good

628
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Speaker 3: about the Tigers and their chances in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Ty Hilderbritch, our guest, you's co host of Solid Verbal.

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Speaker 1: By the way, when you guys came up with solid verbal,

631
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Speaker 1: was that when solid verbal commitment's actually meant something.

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Speaker 3: It was, Yeah, we've got a bunch of emails about that, like, hey,

633
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Speaker 3: you guys gonna like change the name now, I mean,

634
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Speaker 3: we're we've been doing this sin so eight. We're many

635
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 3: years into it, probably too many at this point to

636
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Speaker 3: change the name. But yeah, it doesn't mean as much

637
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Speaker 3: as it used to, does it.

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Speaker 1: No, No, honestly, now you can sign the national letter

639
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: in tenant doesn't seem to rebinding. It's it's crazy, It's crazy.

640
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Speaker 1: How's Bill Belichick do your one in college football?

641
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Speaker 3: That's like the big question, right if you're not talking

642
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 3: about Arch Manning, you're talking about Bill Belichick. A lot

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Speaker 3: new at you and see, including a quarterback coaching staff.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you name it new narratives too. With some

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Speaker 3: of what we heard in the offseason, it's I don't

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Speaker 3: know if u nc's fully prepared for what it got

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Speaker 3: so far out of Bill Belichick. But look, I mean

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Speaker 3: I think you expect base level competence on defense. I

649
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Speaker 3: think you expect base level competence when it comes to

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Speaker 3: the operational stuff sometimes the boring, process driven stuff that

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Speaker 3: we know he was really good at with New England.

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Speaker 3: I think he will find ways to at least get

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Speaker 3: them running more efficiently, get them on schedule, on time. Fundamentally,

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Speaker 3: they will be much sounder than I think they've been recently.

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Speaker 3: So as a starting point in the ACC, which is

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Speaker 3: always wide open, that feels like a pretty good place

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Speaker 3: to be. Beyond that, though, like I don't mean to punt,

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Speaker 3: but there again, this is another situation where there is

659
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Speaker 3: so much new with this school and with this roster

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Speaker 3: that to expect it all to come together right away

661
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Speaker 3: is probably a bridge too far. I think they'll be

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Speaker 3: improved on defense. They haven't played defense in three years,

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Speaker 3: so he's going to make them better on that front

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Speaker 3: and that's going to go a long way, and that's

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Speaker 3: I think going to keep them at least somewhat in

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Speaker 3: the conversation in the ACC. The other thing i'd add

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Speaker 3: about your one for Bill Belichick, it's a really advantageous schedule. Like,

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Speaker 3: if you're in the ACC, you kind of want that

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Speaker 3: UNC schedule right now. So it's going to be set

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Speaker 3: up well for him. He's got a tough opening act

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Speaker 3: against TCU on the Monday night. It's on Labor Day,

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Speaker 3: so he'll have kind of the attention of the college

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Speaker 3: football watching world on him to see what he can do.

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Speaker 3: I expect they'll be better. I expect they'll be fundamentally sound,

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Speaker 3: and I think as a product of their schedule, it

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Speaker 3: will probably open some eyes. But I would stop short

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Speaker 3: of saying like eight wins, like seven eight wins that

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Speaker 3: nothing more than that in my book.

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Speaker 1: a good friend of ours. He joins us on a

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Speaker 1: weekly basis. During the NFL season, he did an interview

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Speaker 1: with the Boston Globe. Excuse me, interview with Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 1: Did an interview with Ben Volan of the Boston Globe.

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Speaker 1: And you know Belichick's now coaching college football. He's saying

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Speaker 1: the praises of college football, but he did so well.

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Speaker 1: Take a listen or yeah, listen to this quote. There's

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Speaker 1: no owner, there's no owner's son, there's no salary cap,

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Speaker 1: everything that goes with the marketing and everything else, which

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Speaker 1: I'm all for that, but it's way less of what

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Speaker 1: it was at that level. Generic teams, you have the owner,

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Speaker 1: the president of the general manager, the personnel director, the

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Speaker 1: college director, the pro director, the cap guy, some other

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Speaker 1: consultant than a head coach. I'd say, when we had

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Speaker 1: our best years in New England, we had fewer people

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Speaker 1: and more direct vision, and as that expanded, it became

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Speaker 1: harder to be successful. Was that a shot at the Patriots?

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Speaker 1: You're damn right it was, But it's also a shot

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Speaker 1: at how business is done. It's no different than the

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Speaker 1: Johnny Manzel being drafted by Cleveland where reportedly they didn't

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Speaker 1: want to draft him and the owner came in draft

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Speaker 1: day and said take him, or potentially what happened with

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Speaker 1: Cleveland this year where they didn't want to take they

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Speaker 1: didn't want to take Shador and the owner's like, what

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Speaker 1: are we doing? Go take Shador? Owners own? That's the

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Speaker 1: expression owner's own. Hey, I put it the money. That's

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Speaker 1: my money, that's my family, that's my name, that's my business.

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Speaker 1: You're great, you're the head coach. I love you. But

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do what I want to do. So I

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Speaker 1: is Bill Belichick spitting truth? Of course? Is he taking

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Speaker 1: a shot at the Patriots. Yes, he wouldn't have said

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Speaker 1: no owner, no owner's son, because they're both involved. But

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Speaker 1: then he went on to say, like any team, they're

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Speaker 1: all like this. They're all like this. And this is

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Speaker 1: why college football is a coach's game, because you get

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Speaker 1: your own fiefdom. And this is why college football coaches

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Speaker 1: struggled so much to get to the end when they

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Speaker 1: get to the NFL. In college, it's all about them

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Speaker 1: and the pros. It's not really about them. If you win,

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Speaker 1: it's about the quarterback and the owner. In a little

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Speaker 1: bit of the coach, Mark Dominic joins us. He spent

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Speaker 1: over forty years and it's forty. Sorry, Mark, my bad,

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Speaker 1: I just aged you. Spent over twenty years in NFL

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Speaker 1: front offices and scouting. He's a former gentlemanager of the

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Speaker 1: Tampay Buccaneers. He joined us in the Doug Gottlieb Show

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio, obviously he worked to tell with

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Speaker 1: the Tampay Buccaneers. How is it simply would a coach

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Speaker 1: make a decision on his own with the Bucks when

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Speaker 1: you were there?

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Speaker 6: No, No, it didn't work out that way. You know.

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Speaker 6: It was always kind of a joint combination of conversations, right,

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Speaker 6: I mean, that was the goal. It was like, let's

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Speaker 6: let's just kind of all figured out together, and let's

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Speaker 6: work together to come up with the best solution we

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Speaker 6: can for each situation. So no, we never kind of

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Speaker 6: gotten that kind of situation whatsoever. And that was including

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Speaker 6: all the years I was there, whether it was Sam Which,

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Speaker 6: Tony Dungee, John Gruden, Rahie Morris, Craig Ciano. You know, no,

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Speaker 6: no coach walked in was like this is how it's

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Speaker 6: going to be, but certainly had influence in terms of

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Speaker 6: what we're thinking about.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I got a bunch of things. Help me explain this.

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Speaker 1: Jay Stuo has a sort of a theory here on

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Speaker 1: the Micah Parsons thing. It's like he knows the Michael

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Speaker 1: Parsons thing is going to get done, but he wants

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Speaker 1: to It's like he wants to wait until this docuseries

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Speaker 1: plays out and it's all kind of the you know,

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Speaker 1: making people watch this docuseries and think, well, the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a fluff thing, right. The

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Speaker 1: Cowboys are awesome, they were made and then they kind

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Speaker 1: of own the media for the preseason. Is that possibly accurate? Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I still think the deal gets done. I mean, what

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Speaker 6: the reports today that they're wanting you know, four, three,

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Speaker 6: four or five first round picks to get Micah Parsons

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Speaker 6: off the team. I mean, I just think that the

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Speaker 6: negotiations went really bad and very frustrating. And when you

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Speaker 6: negotiate with the player directly in your ownership, that is

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Speaker 6: pretty taboo. And you know, whatever said and understood, there's

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Speaker 6: a reason why an agent has a fee and he's

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Speaker 6: trying to negotiate the best interest of the player. So

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Speaker 6: I think this got convoluted for a little bit. I

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Speaker 6: think that they're just trying to make Micah kind of

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Speaker 6: sweat a little bit more. But I still think this

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00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 6: deal gets done for Dallas.

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Speaker 1: Did you think that the Colts would make Andrew Anthony

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Speaker 1: Richson lose the job instead of what they did, which

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Speaker 1: they gave it to Danny Dimes.

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Speaker 6: Well, I just think that, you know, it's a unique thing.

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Speaker 6: I mean, let's Chris Ballard's been in a very unique

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Speaker 6: spot and not many general managers in the history of

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Speaker 6: the game have ever been kind of where he's been

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Speaker 6: in the general manager world. You go back to when

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Speaker 6: he was in his rookie year as a gym. You know,

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Speaker 6: it was Jacoby Brissett, second year, Andrew Luck third year,

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Speaker 6: Jacoby Brissett, fourth year, Rivers fifth wins, sixth, Matt Ryan

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Speaker 6: seventh mentioned, now Anthony Richardson, and now suddenly you know

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Speaker 6: Daniel Jones. I mean, that's that's it's nine years, nine

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Speaker 6: different starting quarterbacks for the season. That's I don't think

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Speaker 6: I've ever heard of that, except you know that that's

806
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Speaker 6: just what's happened. And I think what's happened with Anthony

807
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Speaker 6: Richardson is he's played himself out of the position and

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Speaker 6: they felt, like, you know, everybody understands how important the

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Speaker 6: season is for the Colts, and I think they felt

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Speaker 6: like Daniel Jones to give him a better chance and

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Speaker 6: more consistency.

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Speaker 1: I want to play for you something that Eric Dickerson

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Speaker 1: said it was in relations to Shador Sanders and where

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Speaker 1: he was drafted. This is Eric Dickerson, the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Famer on a M five seven, Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you as much of what I and

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Speaker 2: what I heard from someone that's in the NFL that

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Speaker 2: the NFL put it told other than don't draft him,

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Speaker 2: do not draft him. We're gonna make up, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: make an example out of him. And this came from

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Speaker 2: a very good source, a very good source, and he

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Speaker 2: said that, I won't say who. Somebody called the Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Browns and said, don't do that. Draft really, yep, draft him,

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Speaker 2: don't don't. Don't do that because they weren't drafted either.

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Speaker 1: They weren't drafted, but but they they did. I put

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Speaker 1: it at zero percent chance that the NFL colluded to

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Speaker 1: not draft Shad or Sanders. What percentage chance would you

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Speaker 1: put it at?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, if I put it at zero percent chance as well,

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Speaker 6: And I'm still pretty good about that. Look, you can't,

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Speaker 6: no one does that. I understand.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 6: I've met Eric Dickerson. I think he's amazing, but I

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Speaker 6: think he's wrong. I just there's just no way that

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Speaker 6: you're gonna put yourself in that kind of situation. The

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Speaker 6: league cannot collude like that, or would they want to

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Speaker 6: clubs want the show, right, they didn't want everything else

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Speaker 6: that came along with him is what they were concerned about.

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Speaker 6: So that, yeah, was he a second round third round town?

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Speaker 6: I still think he was. But I think what club

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Speaker 6: said is like, do we really want the circus to

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Speaker 6: come to town? And you know, I think the sder

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Speaker 6: has done a pretty good job and his dad has

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Speaker 6: done a pretty good job of trying not to make

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Speaker 6: it as bad as it's been or that people predicted

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Speaker 6: it could be. But at the same point, you know,

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Speaker 6: I mean, don't believe that. I think one hundred percent

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Speaker 6: that you know, Cleveland made the decision to go trade

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Speaker 6: back up and they'll get him. That's their own call.

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Speaker 6: But no one sat around and said, he's just don't

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Speaker 6: draft your door standard. I think everybody started once the

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Speaker 6: ball started dropping. Sometimes people got a little nervous. Maybe

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Speaker 6: other people are like, well, if no one's drafted and

854
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Speaker 6: we're not gonna draft him. Not that they colluded or

855
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 6: told each other that. I think that's not true at all.

856
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm also you know, the the interviews were such

857
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,479
Speaker 1: a disaster. I mean, you know how it worked because

858
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: you've been in those those those that you call other people.

859
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: Do you guys, do you guys have Yeah, he was

860
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: it was rough. It was rough. People talk, They talk,

861
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: but they don't alude. Like the NFL doesn't collude. You

862
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: don't run the risk of a billion dollar lawsuit because

863
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: of because of a second day, second or third day quarterback.

864
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 6: That is correct. There's no way that you're gonna put

865
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Speaker 6: yourself in that kind of situation and hopefully should do her,

866
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 6: which I think he will will end up having a

867
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 6: chance to play and start for the Cleveland Browns this year.

868
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Speaker 6: I think it will happen, but I gotta wait and

869
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Speaker 6: see you.

870
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Speaker 1: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Mark

871
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 1: Dominic's our guest, warm general manager Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I

872
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out what the Lions are going

873
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: to look like. I'm trying to not get caught in

874
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: the circles of conversation of teams that aren't or haven't

875
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: been good Cowboys as the example, Lions have been really good,

876
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: but they lost a lot some personnel and the coordinators.

877
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: What's your best guess on their year?

878
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 6: I still think Detroit. I think Green Bay is really

879
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 6: closed it. I think it's gonna be very close between

880
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 6: those two teams. I lean a little bit more towards

881
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 6: the Packers, but I think the Lions are right up

882
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 6: there still. I mean, I think the big thing for

883
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 6: the Lions is, yes, the coordinators are you know, that

884
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 6: hurts a little bit certainly, But the players. You know,

885
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 6: as as an old Scott used to say, you know,

886
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 6: it's hard to find. You can find, you know, a

887
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 6: good coach, that's hard to find an elite player or

888
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 6: vice versa. Right, it's a lot harder to find the

889
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 6: player than it is really the coach. And I know

890
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 6: that sounds terrible. Same for the GM. Right, you draft

891
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 6: the right guy, Tom Brady and suddenly you're a great GM.

892
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 6: You draft the wrong one and you're not. It's just

893
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 6: that simple. But it's about the players. And the Detroit

894
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 6: still has a lot of great players because Brad Holme

895
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 6: has done such a good job the GM, the Detroit

896
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 6: Lions has done a great job of building that roster.

897
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 6: So I think they're both neck and neck at probably

898
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 6: is one game apart, but they're both playoff teams and

899
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 6: I think they both could represent the NFC in the

900
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 6: Super Bowl.

901
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: Where are you on Matt Stafford. Right, he's missed so

902
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: much time with the back. Now he's back, but you

903
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: know there's i mean, Garoppolo behind him, who's not even

904
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: where he was when he took the Niners to the

905
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. What are your thoughts on what we should

906
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 1: expect from Matt Stafford this year?

907
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 6: But I still feel like, you know, he's gonna slowly

908
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 6: work himself. We've got a lot of time still, We've

909
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 6: got a few weeks before he's got to be on

910
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 6: the football field. So in that way, I feel good

911
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 6: about where he's hits and that I think he'll be

912
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,240
Speaker 6: the starter. You know, can they massage him through the season,

913
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 6: I believe so. Could Matt Stafford miss a game or two, sure,

914
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 6: But I feel like they've kind of slow played this

915
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 6: the whole way on purpose to make sure that they

916
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 6: get Matt Stafford to the starting line, and we as

917
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 6: the media, like to kind of build the frenzy around it.

918
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 6: But I think he'll be fine, and you know, can

919
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 6: he stay fine? Sure? I mean I think again, you're

920
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 6: going to manage his practice, You're going to manage, you know,

921
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 6: how how much he gets out there. But I think

922
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 6: that they knew all along he's gonna be ready for

923
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 6: week one, and I think they've enjoyed the game. But

924
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 6: I think I think Matt Stafford's going to be fine

925
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 6: week one.

926
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: How far away is Jackson Dart.

927
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Speaker 6: Well, I still don't think they want to start in

928
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 6: week one. I mean, I think that they're very happy

929
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 6: with them. But I think what they're going to want

930
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 6: to do is play the but the fans cheer for him,

931
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 6: assuming that you know, Tommy doesn't continue to go out

932
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 6: and throw you know, three or four touchdown. Now it's

933
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 6: Jackson Dart's team for the future. But I think what

934
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 6: they want to do is, like, let's Jamis go out

935
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 6: there a couple of games.

936
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Speaker 1: If he's get Russell Wilson to Russell's.

937
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 6: Excuse Russell Wilson as but you got Russell Wilson. Let

938
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Speaker 6: him go out there iopauses and see how he does,

939
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 6: and let him have it's his team and let Jackson

940
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 6: kind of just kind of grow and sit there. And

941
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Speaker 6: I think Jackson Darton might be more in the Patrick

942
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 6: Mahomes world this year, where there might be a game

943
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 6: where he gets to play like Patrick did against the

944
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 6: Denver Broncos in his rookie year, and that was it. Basically,

945
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 6: I think that's going to be more of what we'll seeing.

946
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 6: I think that they'll they'll go with Russell. They obviously

947
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,439
Speaker 6: have Jamis, like I said, sorry, and and Jackson's gonna

948
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 6: sit there and just kind of be a fixture, And

949
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 6: if there's opportunity to get him playtime, I think they

950
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,839
Speaker 6: will because there's nothing more important than a young guy

951
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 6: actually being on it. There's one thing in the classroom,

952
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 6: as you know, Doug, you know you can go like

953
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 6: a way, here's what I think I would have done

954
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 6: with that ball, and this is what I think until

955
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 6: you go out in the field, like why do you

956
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 6: make that decision? And they can learn so much faster,

957
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 6: And so I think that's what you're going to see

958
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 6: from Jackson dart Is. I think you're going to see,

959
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 6: let's not push him out there. We don't have to.

960
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 6: We're not you know where Cleveland is where you just

961
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,240
Speaker 6: got to throw somebody out there and maybe hopefully it sticks.

962
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 6: I think for the Giants, I think there's excitement and

963
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 6: hope for him, but they don't want to rush it.

964
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Speaker 1: The Bears open up with the Vikings at home. Now

965
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 1: part of me sits there and goes like man, Bears

966
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: got to be bummed because a Dome team, you really

967
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: want to get them in November and December at Soldier Field.

968
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: But you know, both these teams they give us a

969
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:19,479
Speaker 1: look at two talented former first round draft picks from

970
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: last year at quarterback. You know, look, the Bears thing

971
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: in Caleb Williams is gonna be really interesting. Early on

972
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: in camp, people are like, this doesn't work. Before last

973
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: week that the really good, really well played preseason game,

974
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: You're like, I don't think it's a great fit. Right,

975
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: that's see what you and I discussed Vikings at Lions,

976
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 1: Cowboys at Raiders, bye Week at Commanders, Saints at Ravens

977
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: at Bengals. Like it gets real really really quick for

978
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. Does it work?

979
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 6: Yeah? It does? And I think that's great. We've got

980
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 6: to put him out there and got to see exactly

981
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 6: what he can do and what this offensive line can

982
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 6: do for and they've done everything it can to say, hey, Caleb,

983
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 6: how good are you? And now it's Caleb turned to

984
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 6: show everybody that he deserves to be the number one pick,

985
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 6: or deserve to be you know, top two picks uh

986
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 6: in the draft. And you know I think the opportunity

987
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 6: is there. I mean, I love that they added Colson

988
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 6: loves Lovement. I think he's a huge piece with col Cormet,

989
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 6: like having a two tight ends set along with the

990
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 6: ride receivers and the running. I mean, I just love

991
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 6: what they did is the offensive line. So everything's the

992
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,720
Speaker 6: table set. There's no excuses, and I think Caleb William

993
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 6: should have to be happy about that. They're giving you

994
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 6: every chance you can to be the star and let's

995
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 6: see if you.

996
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 1: Can do it.

997
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 6: I'm not sure. I don't really know what I've seen

998
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 6: enough of him. I've been impressed at times where I've like,

999
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 6: those are some really good throws, but it just still

1000
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 6: feels like it's not as natural of conversation coming out

1001
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 6: of Chicago, like yeah, he's going to be the dude

1002
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 6: like we saw with the Commanders, or even kind of

1003
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 6: like what we heard in Denver early on with bow

1004
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 6: Nick's like hey, this is a lot different than it's

1005
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 6: even what we thought of better. I think that's kind

1006
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 6: of the thing that's not been felt by Caleb. It's

1007
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 6: more like, yeah, he's coming a long ways kind of

1008
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 6: a thing.

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Speaker 1: Instead, he's Mark Dominic. You'll hear him every week. Former

1010
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: Tenant Bay Buccaneers gentleman. Sure he spent his entire professional

1011
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: life in the National Football League, and he gives us

1012
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: just so much great information. Uh, Marc, have a great weekend.

1013
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 1: We're getting closer. Thanks for joining us.

1014
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks for having me on. Doug enjoyed the last

1015
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Speaker 6: seven preseason games. We'll talk to you next week.