Speaker 1: Quarterback competition for Cleveland Browns will soon come to an end.
Speaker 1: Coach Deevins coach Kevin Stefanski said today that the team
Speaker 1: will name a starter this week. According to the Cleveland
Speaker 1: dot Com, the decision could come as soon as Monday.
Speaker 1: Stefanski said, we will name it starter. It's going to
Speaker 1: come this week with we still anticipate all of our players,
Speaker 1: whether you're a starter or not, to prepare like you
Speaker 1: the starter. Knowing all of our players in that room,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what they'll do.
Speaker 2: Hey, we don't care about who's gonna be the starter.
Speaker 2: We know who the starter is gonna be. We know
Speaker 2: who's starting. Joe Flacko a starter, the starter. He's not
Speaker 2: there for one year to be sitting on the bench
Speaker 2: and get beat out by rookie who are not.
Speaker 3: Either he's starting or one of the other.
Speaker 2: There is no listen the starter in Joe Flacco. The
Speaker 2: more important part, who's the number two? Who's short you
Speaker 2: enough in the preseason to be number two? And then
Speaker 2: the next question, are you keeping four goddamn quarterbacks? Probably
Speaker 2: not again, I love all of them. I love with
Speaker 2: your door showed, I love what Dylan Gabriel showed despite
Speaker 2: the mistakes, despite the pick six and the fumble. So
Speaker 2: who's the odd man out? Because the odd man out
Speaker 2: is the person that we've already seen on two other teams.
Speaker 2: We saw your small semicide with the Steelers, okay, and
Speaker 2: we saw you were back up with the with the Eagles.
Speaker 2: So obviously you're not the answer. No disrespect, no disrespect.
Speaker 2: You'll find a home regardless. I'm telling you. I'm telling you,
Speaker 2: I don't know Kevin Stefanski personally. I could pick up
Speaker 2: the phone to call him, but I know that's how
Speaker 2: it's gonna play out. It is, And I know, mister
Speaker 2: Haslam listen, I know you didn't want them. I know
Speaker 2: what you'll pick. But Andrew Berry, i'm telling you, when
Speaker 2: this is over, when this is over in the dust settles,
Speaker 2: you're gonna look like a genius. I'm telling you you
Speaker 2: got your quarterback of the future.
Speaker 3: Well, well hope so.
Speaker 1: Because uh, some of the hire, some of the coaches
Speaker 1: he's hired, he didn't look like new genius. But if
Speaker 1: he gets this quarterback situation right, all to be forget.
Speaker 2: All it takes. And that's that's for the other thirty
Speaker 2: two teams. Well, excuse me. It's not thirty two teams
Speaker 2: out in dire and either of a quarterback. But I'm
Speaker 2: just saying what I mean.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever seen a situation like
Speaker 1: quite like what's going on in Cleveland. Because the guy
Speaker 1: that you brought the two guys, the two veteran guys
Speaker 1: that you brought in have yet to play.
Speaker 3: Now, maybe there's a situation.
Speaker 1: And I think this, I think because Joe Flacco didn't play,
Speaker 1: maybe they're they're like, Okay, look, we already know what
Speaker 1: you can do. We don't need to see you. Sheff
Speaker 1: you you know what I'm saying. N you the other
Speaker 1: the other three, they were anticipating Kenny Pickett being able
Speaker 1: to play, so we can get a bet, we can
Speaker 1: get a look at him. But since he's been unable
Speaker 1: to play, basically, it's been a Gabriel and and you're so,
Speaker 1: I don't know how you can name anybody else other
Speaker 1: than the starter, I mean, other than flak Oh how
Speaker 1: you how you name a guy that hadn't taken a
Speaker 1: snap since what August third, August fourth? Excuse me and
Speaker 1: name him the starter?
Speaker 3: Damn well, stranger, stranger things have happened. But I don't,
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know not since we on the top of
Speaker 2: the quarterbacks, we talking about the Cleveland Browns and what
Speaker 2: they're gonna do and who's gonna be at be at
Speaker 2: the hand week one, it's gonna be Joe Flacco. Well, Hen,
Speaker 2: what the Ram's gonna do? They only got two weeks
Speaker 2: and god damn uh Stafford ain't took a snap.
Speaker 3: Stephen Benning look good. Though.
Speaker 1: They like Stepan Bennett, they do, they do, they do.
Speaker 1: They like Stepson Bennett. And all he did, all he
Speaker 1: did was just go to Georgia as a walk on
Speaker 1: back up and and just become the greatest, the greatest
Speaker 1: Georgia quarterback.
Speaker 3: Uh he.
Speaker 1: When it comes to Georgia players right now is herschel
Speaker 1: Walker and Stepsen Binning?
Speaker 2: Whoa whoa whoa, whoa whoa whoa of all the great
Speaker 2: players that have come out of Georgia offensively.
Speaker 1: And because you see, they love first of all, Big
Speaker 1: Dog was a phenomenal player. Top Dog was a big
Speaker 1: buddy won the National championship as a freshman. Stephen Bennett
Speaker 1: went back to back as a walk on. Do you
Speaker 1: everybody love an underdog. O Joe, you say your favorite
Speaker 1: sports movie is Rudy. Now, why do you like Rudy
Speaker 1: so much? He's Rudy.
Speaker 2: That was dope, matter of fact. And you know what,
Speaker 2: I was rooty today?
Speaker 3: Now you Rudy pooh?
Speaker 2: I was rooty today?
Speaker 3: Yea man.
Speaker 1: But they like step San Bennett. They the Rams like
Speaker 1: Stepson Bennett. I would be concerned that back, you know, back, Saint.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you ever had anything with your back,
Speaker 1: but backs ain't nothing to play with.
Speaker 2: And you gotta be serious too long. Note, what did
Speaker 2: he at any point in training camp? Has Stafford taking
Speaker 2: a snap? Did he practice at all?
Speaker 1: I think he like early but then he just woke
Speaker 1: up in something that's wrong with Okay, but he ain't.
Speaker 1: I mean it's been about two three weeks.
Speaker 2: I mean they've only been they've been only been in
Speaker 2: camp too. Yeah okay, okay, okay, okay. He did he
Speaker 2: did O T A and all that though, he did O.
Speaker 3: T yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Look, we know Stafford can flat out he can throw
Speaker 1: the football, and I think he gives them the best chance.
Speaker 1: But I do, but I I think Sean McVay. They
Speaker 1: they they're high on steps have been it. He's not
Speaker 1: the biggest doesn't have the biggest arm. He's athletic, he
Speaker 1: does he can make plays, and you know, you probably
Speaker 1: have to coach him up kind of like you did golf.
Speaker 2: But uh, the funny thing about it is for him again,
Speaker 2: we have a quarterback like that, that's a rookie. Maybe
Speaker 2: he has to start week one, you know, but you
Speaker 2: feel a little better as a quarterback.
Speaker 3: Second, you.
Speaker 2: Feel a little you feel a little better about if
Speaker 2: Mats Stafford can't go because step Kyin Williams, you got
Speaker 2: put in the cool you got, you got my young
Speaker 2: bull from Miami.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: They're gonna be alright, Yeah, they're gonna be all right.
Speaker 2: God damn to to at well baby.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But he look, we're gonna be we we'll have a
Speaker 1: lot to talk about tomorrow because once they name the starter,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to see his depth chart. Damn, the starter.
Speaker 1: I don't think I think we'll both agree neither one
Speaker 1: of the rookies will be named starter. So now I'm
Speaker 1: just looking for the depth chart. I'm just gonna see. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: who lives up at two three?
Speaker 3: Folk?
Speaker 2: Well, listen, knowing Sefanski and Sefanski having an answer to
Speaker 2: the boss man whose name is on the check. I
Speaker 2: can tell you how that's gonna look. Flack over Gabriel Sanders.
Speaker 1: Well, if that's the case, you might as well go
Speaker 1: ahead and release Knny Picky to give him a chance
Speaker 1: to go pick up somewhere else.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh, he gonna get a job regardless. He gonna get
Speaker 2: a job regardless.
Speaker 1: We asked our I g chat this morning if they
Speaker 1: felt Dylan gabriel comments were a shot at should do it?
Speaker 1: Eighty five percent felt yes, eighty five fifteen eleven thou
Speaker 1: Over eleven thousand people responded ought Joe felt that he
Speaker 1: took a shot at at your door?
Speaker 3: Hey, I listened.
Speaker 2: I listened to I listened to the to the question
Speaker 2: for better context on what he was saying, and I
Speaker 2: kind of, I kind of. I'm on the other side
Speaker 2: of the fence. If you listen to the question that
Speaker 2: was asking the way he answered it. Yeah, I'm trying
Speaker 2: to understand. Maybe you can help me understand how you
Speaker 2: guys still feel the shot was ast your door when
Speaker 2: it was a specific question, So.
Speaker 3: What did they ask him?
Speaker 2: I don't remember. I don't remember exactly off the top
Speaker 2: of the head. But I'm just saying, if you the question, yea,
Speaker 2: maybe asking show it to you real quick, show the
Speaker 2: question that was asked to get a better understanding of
Speaker 2: the context on what he answered. Hey chat, y'all. Ever,
Speaker 2: if anybody in the chat smokes the guards, you got
Speaker 2: to try to hind me Garcia, give me himI Garcia.
Speaker 2: Sixty gays, got ya.
Speaker 1: They ask him his comfortable comfortability in front of a camera. Okay,
Speaker 1: some guys are some guys are entertainers. They're real comfortable
Speaker 1: in front of a camera. That's what I would deduce
Speaker 1: if you if I ask you, oh, Joe, why are
Speaker 1: you so comfortable in front of an in front of
Speaker 1: a camera?
Speaker 3: Right there?
Speaker 2: I'm no act. Well, see when you talk about me,
Speaker 2: I'm a theater and drama major. That's why I'm so
Speaker 2: good in front of the camera.
Speaker 1: But okay, you're an entertainer. Yeah so so, ain't nobody.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody ask you that?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: So if they're talking about if he said somebody's an entertainer,
Speaker 1: why would she do so?
Speaker 3: Another word?
Speaker 1: Should doers ain't comfortable in front of the camera?
Speaker 3: Why? O? Yo?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean he's had one in front of him
Speaker 2: all his life.
Speaker 1: They didn't they didn't ask him anything all. They ask him,
Speaker 1: why are you so comfortable? I'm in comfortable. Look, I've
Speaker 1: been a quarterback for an extended period of time. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is what I've been playing, the quarterback position. I
Speaker 1: understand what comes along with the quarterback position. I'm the
Speaker 1: CEO or the corporation. Nobody asks google, Ain't nobody ask you.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody, Ain't nobody ask you about no entertaining.
Speaker 2: A matter of fact, you know what I'm thinking about too, uncle,
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, there are many ways to think
Speaker 2: about it, you know, and and people having opinions on
Speaker 2: how you said and who were taking a shot at.
Speaker 2: But when everything is in your favor, especially in the
Speaker 2: situation you're in depth chart wise, position wise, the owner
Speaker 2: wants you, then I also think about what the fuck
Speaker 2: am I taking a shot for when I'm getting the
Speaker 2: grace from the people that matter.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I just listen.
Speaker 2: I factored all the different things. That's why I factored
Speaker 2: all the different things outside of just oh, with a
Speaker 2: shot at him. Well, hell, the owner's on my side.
Speaker 2: I'm starting this game. I mean, what the fuck am
Speaker 2: I shoes?
Speaker 3: For?
Speaker 2: What would be the point? There would be no need
Speaker 2: to because.
Speaker 1: I'm so let me ask your question. Who go who
Speaker 1: goes to camp not ready to compete?
Speaker 2: I'm with, hey, listen, I'm so he so so.
Speaker 1: In other words, he's a competitor. I'm here to compete.
Speaker 1: Who in training camp isn't a competitor. You don't get
Speaker 1: to this level without being competing. And when you go
Speaker 1: to training camp unless you're the unless you're and that's
Speaker 1: just the way your makeup is. Everybody competes, even Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes competing against himself.
Speaker 3: M hm, so him saying that, oh helldo.
Speaker 1: Speaking of CBS reporter, Gabriel was asked about his comfortability
Speaker 1: in front of a camera. There are entertainers and they
Speaker 1: are competitors, and I totally understand that my job is
Speaker 1: to compete, and that's what I'm going to do. CBS
Speaker 1: reporter asked Gabriel about his comfortability in front.
Speaker 3: Of the camera.
Speaker 1: They are entertainers and they are competitors, and I totally
Speaker 1: understand that my job is to compete, and that's what
Speaker 1: I'm going to do. Now again, I like that, I
Speaker 1: ain't ask him nothing by no entertainment. Well hold on,
Speaker 1: he's saying, there are entertainers.
Speaker 2: Hey, hold way, did you stay listen to me? Entertainers right? Yes?
Speaker 2: What are entertainers always have in front of them that
Speaker 2: are always comes to be in front of cameras? What
Speaker 2: an actor? The entertainers?
Speaker 3: Right? You make my point because because your doers always
Speaker 3: had what in front of him? So what you say? Now?
Speaker 2: See see.
Speaker 3: You see I walked it right into that chat. I
Speaker 3: walked it right into it, walked it right into a y'all.
Speaker 2: Y'all, y'all killing me?
Speaker 1: You said, you said should do it as good at
Speaker 1: this because he's had a camera in front of him
Speaker 1: his whole life.
Speaker 3: So why so if he didn't take a shot? So
Speaker 3: who is he talking about?
Speaker 2: People that are always in front of the camera, that's
Speaker 2: why they're so comfortable. Entertainers who who on his team.
Speaker 3: Had a camera in front of his life, her whole life?
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't like how y'all do that work? Hey,
Speaker 2: A young innocent kid just answering the question and y'all
Speaker 2: just running with it. That probably ain't what he meant.
Speaker 2: Many I leave, boy, y'all, I don't know.
Speaker 3: What he meant.
Speaker 1: I don't know what he meant. All I know what
Speaker 1: he said, Say what you mean, mean what you're saying?
Speaker 1: All he had, all he had, all.
Speaker 3: He being a quarterback playing at the University of Oregon.
Speaker 2: You can't tell him how to answer. You can't tell
Speaker 2: a man how to answer a question.
Speaker 3: You can't do that.
Speaker 2: He answered the question the way he where he felt,
Speaker 2: and I just I feel me being a player that
Speaker 2: is also played understanding the quarterback visions. I don't think
Speaker 2: he was taking a shot at the person on his
Speaker 2: team that he's competing with. That's all who asked entertainers
Speaker 2: that's the way he wanted to answer the question exactly.
Speaker 2: Think in the middle of a game, he's thinking about
Speaker 2: how should I answer this? You know what, this is good,
Speaker 2: This is a great time take a shot that you'd
Speaker 2: do it?
Speaker 3: No, that's that's why.
Speaker 1: That's why you gotta be careful, because if you're not careful,
Speaker 1: if it come up, it'll come out. You don't you
Speaker 1: don't think that. You don't think that he thinks that.
Speaker 1: No problem, that's your opinion. You don't believe he taking
Speaker 1: a shot. Me and a lot of other people believe
Speaker 1: that he did take a shot. I'm not here to
Speaker 1: try to change you. I'm telling you, just telling you.
Speaker 2: I just think I just think it's being a little
Speaker 2: being blown a little, a little out of proportion. And
Speaker 2: I don't think it's what he meant. What he needs
Speaker 2: to do is be better, be careful with his words
Speaker 2: and the way he words things.
Speaker 1: Why you gotta be careful because you say you want
Speaker 1: people to be truthful, Now you want to be care
Speaker 1: He was truthful.
Speaker 2: But I just think the meaning of what he's saying
Speaker 2: is being miscunscrewed.
Speaker 3: That's all.
Speaker 2: That's a big word for me. Missing screwed. That's a
Speaker 2: big word right now.
Speaker 3: It had m.
Speaker 1: But like I said, I just uh we uh uh
Speaker 1: we look at it everyone because I don't think he
Speaker 1: I think the thing is that you know, especially that's
Speaker 1: why quarterbacks are so scripted, because they know anything they
Speaker 1: say it's gonna be how it's gonna be misconstrewed, the
Speaker 1: big word that you use. That's why you always get
Speaker 1: Tom is telling you. Now, Tom's like, oh, that guy
Speaker 1: is the greatest guy ever. He's like, Oh, we going
Speaker 1: to him all day. Now he said what he said
Speaker 1: to the public. Now he's telling you what he actually thought.
Speaker 1: That's why quarterbacks are That's why you know, you don't
Speaker 1: really get anything from the quarterback because they know.
Speaker 3: The slightest twist.
Speaker 1: Or you know how it will be right right, right,
Speaker 1: right right. That's why they're normally ultra scripted.
Speaker 2: Listen, I like it.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 2: You listening from two different lenses. You got two eyes.
Speaker 2: I only got one, So maybe that's why I can't
Speaker 2: see what you see.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: The Commanders have been looking to trade running back Brian Robinson,
Speaker 1: Judn Jordan Shortz, Jordan Schultz. Right now, he's listed as
Speaker 1: q RB one on the depth chart, Austin Eckler number two,
Speaker 1: and Jeremy McNichols number three.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, go ahead, you don't want to pay
Speaker 2: Terry McLaurin. You want to trade running back number one?
Speaker 2: Mean someone else must have really really impressed in the
Speaker 2: preseason at the running back position.
Speaker 1: But that at the evening, well, you ain't got nobody
Speaker 1: but Austin Eckler and Jeremy Jeremy mc nicchol. So you
Speaker 1: know what you get with Austin Eckler. He's more of
Speaker 1: a runner, He's more of a receiver than a runner.
Speaker 1: He went to the Pro Bowl third down back.
Speaker 3: You're not a one.
Speaker 1: I haven't I didn't see I haven't seen mc nichols.
Speaker 1: But I'll take a look at it tomorrow and then
Speaker 1: I'll be able to give you. I'll be able to
Speaker 1: give you a clear pictures that. Okay, I understand what.
Speaker 3: Are we doing? Well?
Speaker 2: I don't know what we're doing over there in Washington.
Speaker 2: To have a season like you had last year, right
Speaker 2: to have a season like you had last year? What
Speaker 2: would you want to do? I want to make sure
Speaker 2: we do everything possible from a business standpoint, especially when
Speaker 2: it comes to my number one receiver that my quarterback
Speaker 2: relied on, that made a lot of plays for us
Speaker 2: last year in the regular season and in the playoffs,
Speaker 2: and making sure he signed and happy. Now two weeks
Speaker 2: before the season start, we want to get rid of quarterback.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, we want to get rid of running back, number.
Speaker 3: One running back. Yeah, what what are we doing? Hey?
Speaker 1: If somebody must have looked really good? I mean, when
Speaker 1: you trade your started from last year, you really trade
Speaker 1: your starter? Uh, somebody must have looked really looked good.
Speaker 2: Oh, Joseph, I ain't heard about it, and not Donna
Speaker 2: watch every preseason game, so far well.
Speaker 1: Like I said, we'll watch it tomorrow and we'll bet
Speaker 1: we'll we'll be able to see like, okay, and now
Speaker 1: I can see why they're looking to move on from
Speaker 1: Brian Robinson Junior. But it's not like he's making a
Speaker 1: ton of money. He was a low ROUNDE draft pick,
Speaker 1: wasn't it.
Speaker 2: They're gonna be alright, though, regardless of where they go.
Speaker 3: The quarterbacks, and he's from Alabama, right.
Speaker 2: The quarterback situation in Washington is so good.
Speaker 3: Third round okay, it's so good.
Speaker 2: Jaydon dam is so good. Even without the running back,
Speaker 2: they still gonna be okay. Oh, you're still gonna be okay.
Speaker 2: But if they don't get if they don't get scary
Speaker 2: Terry done, I mean, what what what are we doing?
Speaker 2: You're going completely backwards?
Speaker 3: We're going I just don't.
Speaker 1: I just don't see how he gets north of DK
Speaker 1: I think, and you and I agreed. I think he's
Speaker 1: in the twenty eight thirty million dollar range. And that's
Speaker 1: not what I said.
Speaker 2: I said thirty thirty years. You know, come on, man,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: If Duel Carter did not like the NFL posted a
Speaker 1: clip posting a clip of the Chip blot the Jets.
Speaker 1: Te Stone Smart put on it might be the only
Speaker 1: highlight of the Jets all season, and they put we
Speaker 1: put bt a you know what, I ain't that like
Speaker 1: mo folks, chicken. I don't know if you ain't like
Speaker 1: chicken up, dude. But when you're a great pass rush
Speaker 1: and you're gonna get.
Speaker 2: That, what they're gonna do to you. Matter of fact,
Speaker 2: if he wasn't who, if he wasn't, if he wasn't
Speaker 2: who he was, you know what, he wouldn't be getting chipped.
Speaker 2: It's the preseason. Why are we chipping on the way
Speaker 2: out in the preseason? Because you him? You hear him.
Speaker 2: So the NFL is posting it for a reason. They
Speaker 2: posting for a reason because you are him. If it
Speaker 2: was anybody else, they wouldn't be posting it.
Speaker 3: Oh no, the one day but the one da good?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well here rookie first of all high round draft pick,
Speaker 1: the second pickure?
Speaker 3: What the third is? The third? Second?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Third?
Speaker 2: Third?
Speaker 3: Third?
Speaker 2: It was Cam Travis and then.
Speaker 1: Travis because Jacksonville traded up with Cleveland to get But
Speaker 1: that's what you're gonna have to you and as you
Speaker 1: get better, you'll be able to figure you know, you
Speaker 1: know hell right then, and when you see that guy,
Speaker 1: you unload on him before he unloads on you. But
Speaker 1: it's all a part of the game. You weren't a
Speaker 1: great player, they wouldn't even chip you. They let hey
Speaker 1: tackle goh and handle. The Panthers signed UFL MVP Bryce
Speaker 1: Perkins after Andy donaelbow injury. Perkins through twenty eight touches
Speaker 1: through Perkins twenty eight through for thirteen hundred and forty
Speaker 1: two yards, nine touchdowns, with two hundred and sixty nine
Speaker 1: rush yards and five touchdowns for the Michigan Panthers this season.
Speaker 1: Perkins spent time on the rams during the twenty through
Speaker 1: twenty two seasons, appearing in five games with one start.
Speaker 3: Oh cho uh you okay?
Speaker 2: Andy Donelbo, Yeah yeah, I'm okay, I'm okay, and Andy
Speaker 2: b back. You know Bryce coming in. I mean, we
Speaker 2: know who the starting quarterback is. You know who the
Speaker 2: starting quarterback is. You know whoever the number two is.
Speaker 2: I mean that's cool, that's cool, But n Bryce Young,
Speaker 2: just get that thing that Jayalen Coker, get that thing
Speaker 2: that brother Renfrow. Get that thing to t Mac. Get
Speaker 2: it Exacerlegd, get it to Adam thieling, We're gonna be
Speaker 2: all right. We got chubbed chubbed the running back right,
Speaker 2: chubbed Hubbard did that?
Speaker 3: Schoober Hubbard Hubbard.
Speaker 2: Tuba Yeah.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 2: They gonna be right, Teddy Panthers, Panthers playoff. I said
Speaker 2: it first, Keep pounding, Oh Joe.
Speaker 1: Top five cornerbacks in the NFL says two thousand, Darrel
Speaker 1: Reevers one, Sharon two, Champ three, Gilmore four? Uh Jaylen
Speaker 1: Ramsy like it? What would you change?
Speaker 3: Would you leave it?
Speaker 2: I wouldn't change the goddamn thing.
Speaker 3: I would put champion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well okay, oh you mean numerically, oh yeah, American?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I'll put champion two. Uh yeah. I like
Speaker 2: it how it is. I like how to hey people,
Speaker 2: I don't I don't think people understand how how good
Speaker 2: Stephan Gilmour was. I don't think he's a.
Speaker 3: Player of the year.
Speaker 1: And I mean you, I mean for when the DV
Speaker 1: gives defensive player of the Year that ain't but a
Speaker 1: whole lot of.
Speaker 2: Them now and Jayleen Ramsey even still to this day.
Speaker 2: Another thing about Jayleen Ramsey that I don't like. And
Speaker 2: when we talk about the better corners better man and
Speaker 2: man corners in the NFL. We're not mentioned in Jalen
Speaker 2: Ramsey's name enough, we're not still very good, still very
Speaker 2: good in one on one situations where the plan off,
Speaker 2: where the plan up and man and man and some
Speaker 2: people say, oh, well he this.
Speaker 3: Guy beat him.
Speaker 2: Everybody gets beat. Yeah, nobody has a high percentage of
Speaker 2: times that he wins his matchups. The high percentage. And
Speaker 2: everybody that's on that list, chat chat, listen to me
Speaker 2: real quick. Everybody on that list dbs. In NFL games,
Speaker 2: they play not to get beat, and it's a short
Speaker 2: percentage of maybe five percent that play to make a play.
Speaker 2: It's a huge difference. There's a huge difference. They're playing
Speaker 2: to make a play, not just playing not to get beat.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna run the scheme. I'm gonna keep the guy
Speaker 2: in front of me, and if he catches the ball,
Speaker 2: I make the tackle. Know these individuals, they're trying to
Speaker 2: make a play and all of them are very good tacklers,
Speaker 2: very good tacklers. I think Champ went to like ten
Speaker 2: or eleven Pro Bowls. He was four or five times
Speaker 2: first team All Pro, led the league and picks one year.
Speaker 2: Gilly Stefan Gilmore was Defensive Player of the Year. He
Speaker 2: had a great season that season two thousand and nine
Speaker 2: with that two thousand and nine Seeds and when Revers
Speaker 2: had the unbelievable season, but Charles Woodson and won the
Speaker 2: Defensive Year. Ramsey has just been good everywhere he's been.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised.
Speaker 1: It's just surprising to me that how good he's bad,
Speaker 1: that he's been moved this many times. That's what's surprised
Speaker 1: to be Jacksville, you know, from Jacksonville to ram to
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, Dolphins and Steelers Ramsey. Ramsey has been good
Speaker 1: everywhere he's been.
Speaker 3: He ain't no no, mm hmm. You can play multiple positions.
Speaker 1: I can see him moving playing safety like you saw
Speaker 1: Charles Woodson and Rod Woodson later in their career moved
Speaker 1: to the safety position and a Nils Williams and time.
Speaker 2: I mean they're gonna be I mean, they're going to
Speaker 2: be able to do a multitude of things with Ramsey
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh. So that's going to be really interesting the
Speaker 2: way they use him, obviously, but the Joey Porter Junior
Speaker 2: is gonna be on one side, and I'm not sure
Speaker 2: where slave is going to be and maybe when that
Speaker 2: team go to three receiver sets of four or five receivers, I'm,
Speaker 2: you know, telling how that's gonna work out of what
Speaker 2: they're gonna do, But it's it's it's gonna be. They're
Speaker 2: gonna have very many, very many options. And with that
Speaker 2: that front four, that front four that they have, that
Speaker 2: that that ball got to come out on.
Speaker 3: Are we saying, cam, Hey, what's going to be there
Speaker 3: or not be there?
Speaker 2: I forgot about that? God damn it, God damn it.
Speaker 2: Is he really gonna stand on business too long?
Speaker 3: You think he seems like a extinguished gentleman.
Speaker 2: Damn, but they just paid you last year. I mean,
Speaker 2: how many times you ever seen a team but he.
Speaker 1: Said, if I had to, if I'd had two sacks,
Speaker 1: y'all to cut me this year too, even though you
Speaker 1: just paid me last year.
Speaker 3: But you like you do be sometimes I'll just give
Speaker 3: you the other side.
Speaker 2: But let me ask you a question. Have you ever
Speaker 2: seen a team pay a player one season and the
Speaker 2: player played that weall and they come right back and
Speaker 2: do a deal again.
Speaker 3: No, I have not.
Speaker 2: There you go and it is you're not gonna say
Speaker 2: they're not gonna I guess.
Speaker 3: I said, it's the first time.
Speaker 1: Everything he said, I've seen, he said, I've seen your
Speaker 1: I've seen teams pay a player and cut him the
Speaker 1: next season.
Speaker 3: So we'll we'll see. But uh, that's I think the
Speaker 3: only thing I think. And I think Sherman's phenomenal.
Speaker 1: Uh, I do bump him down just to tag because
Speaker 1: their defense didn't allow it for them to travel.
Speaker 3: They stayed on one side.
Speaker 1: Everybody else, everybody else in this picture travel, you know,
Speaker 1: And I think it's something to be said for that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, think about it. If you played,
Speaker 1: if you played in the eighties and you followed Jerry Sterling, Sharp,
Speaker 1: Chris Carter, Herman, Moore, Andre Rising, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I mean, you're thinking about you corner and that and
Speaker 3: that was your sign to be with you. That's all.
Speaker 3: Like I say. You know, Michael Irvin, Anthony Miller, you
Speaker 3: you you you travel for me.
Speaker 1: It's something to be saying for a guy that a
Speaker 1: travel that you're willing to pick up frequent flyer miles.
Speaker 1: But sar Sharm for the phenomenal and you know, and uh,
Speaker 1: that's why he's an All decade player in the twenty teams,
Speaker 1: and rightfully so, because he was he was that good.
Speaker 1: He was a quarter of the legion.
Speaker 2: And another thing we talked about when we talk about
Speaker 2: those those five corners, I want to talk about some
Speaker 2: corners that aren't listening there that I think are deserving
Speaker 2: to be on that list as well. I got to
Speaker 2: I got to that deserves on that top five. Santi Samuels,
Speaker 2: Patrick Peterson.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. I agree. Oh you know what,
Speaker 3: I'm surprised Pat pig there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure who. I'm not sure who made
Speaker 2: that list. But the funny thing about it is they
Speaker 2: were so good doing their time about I'm talking about
Speaker 2: prime Prime, Patrick Peterson, Man sh Man stopped playing PRIs
Speaker 2: even though he didn't travel. But that that's that's not
Speaker 2: what was asked of him.
Speaker 3: That wasn't that.
Speaker 1: That's that's why, like I said, Sharon played the defense
Speaker 1: and he played it extremely well. Yeah, he played it
Speaker 1: extremely well. Uh But for me, when you got to
Speaker 1: when you got to take Brandon Marshall and take and
Speaker 1: take out and take Megatron and take too and take Julio,
Speaker 1: I bro.
Speaker 2: I got I got I got to get I got
Speaker 2: to get Yes, do you understand the kind of bag.
Speaker 2: You understand the kind of toolbox you have to have
Speaker 2: as a dB to play against each one and receivers
Speaker 2: you just named. Knowing that approach each situation differently. You
Speaker 2: got your style of play has to be different based
Speaker 2: on who is man. That is why I say, and
Speaker 2: people will laugh at me. I say, defensive back is
Speaker 2: the hardest position to play, especially if you're a traveling
Speaker 2: corner that doesn't have a man. Listen, you got to
Speaker 2: be on.
Speaker 1: You think it's hard, You think you think it's harder.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe physically, but not Yes, quarterback.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a mental game.
Speaker 3: Hold on time out.
Speaker 2: Oh, this is a great conversation. Name the court, Patrick,
Speaker 2: I'm Patrick Peterson. One week say the receivers again. I
Speaker 2: got home, We got got our guns.
Speaker 3: Who Okay, you go to Julio.
Speaker 2: Julio Jones, fast, good and bumping, run can run routes
Speaker 2: like no other. I gotta travel with him for four quarters. Yep,
Speaker 2: my toolbox, my technique has to be perfect mentally in itself.
Speaker 2: That in itself is just like playing the quarterback position,
Speaker 2: because you got to be on point one mistake one
Speaker 2: era you done, that's six points.
Speaker 1: Look I'm not saying it's not easy, but as the quarterback,
Speaker 1: I gotta know, Okay, this this defensive front, let me
Speaker 1: instead of Liz, let me rip this. I need to
Speaker 1: know x y Z running back that there's a reason why,
Speaker 1: there's a reason why the quarterback playbook is Then think
Speaker 1: and defensive backs playbook.
Speaker 3: Is this thing.
Speaker 2: But listen, even if even if the defensive back playbook
Speaker 2: is this small, right, understanding what he has to go through,
Speaker 2: Understanding what he has to go through every down.
Speaker 1: Is think about all the coverages. I got to think
Speaker 1: about down in distance. I gotta think about position on
Speaker 1: the field. I gotta think about personnel. Are they in
Speaker 1: sub are they in spinner? Are they in three?
Speaker 4: Down?
Speaker 3: Scan?
Speaker 1: Quarter cover four, cover six, cover five? The clouding it
Speaker 1: they banjoined it? Oh Joe, I got to know all
Speaker 1: of that, And I gotta know, Okay who Nickel dying? S?
Speaker 3: No? They they and six? Two?
Speaker 2: Then right right right now, I.
Speaker 3: No s Listen.
Speaker 2: One week I'm traveling. One week, I got to o.
Speaker 2: Next week, I got Calvin Johnson, got the next week,
Speaker 2: I got Randy Moss and the mats Man. Please, And
Speaker 2: I'm I'm.
Speaker 1: Trying one week. You got one week you got the
Speaker 1: Steelers defense with that three four. The next week you
Speaker 1: got the Eagles defense with a forty three, And the
Speaker 1: next week and then the next week you got the Ravens.
Speaker 1: Oh and then the next week you got the Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: And then the next week you got Seattle. And the
Speaker 1: next week you got the Jets. And the next week
Speaker 1: you got the Broncos, And then you got Bill Belichick,
Speaker 1: and then you got Rex Ryan, then you got Wave Phillips.
Speaker 3: Rick.
Speaker 1: Now, physically, corner is the toughest position because you're asking somebody.
Speaker 1: It's like Ginger Rogers and Price Staire. She had to
Speaker 1: do everything that Fred Astaire did, but you had to
Speaker 1: do it backwards that you had to do at Els.
Speaker 1: So I have to do everything that Julio's gonna do,
Speaker 1: but unfortunately I gotta do it backwards. But hey, but
Speaker 1: not only must I know what must not only must
Speaker 1: I know where that DV is. I better find out
Speaker 1: what t J. Watt and Michael Parson's are also, And
Speaker 1: you know why why I'm at at what the hell
Speaker 1: is Rocon Smith gonna do? What is ray Lewis gonna do?
Speaker 3: Him? And on ear last? So they are up to
Speaker 3: something no good.
Speaker 1: I know it, and I need to worry about Warren
Speaker 1: Sapp and Johnny Rama hit me in the back of
Speaker 1: my damn head.
Speaker 3: What am I gonna do about Reggie White and brew
Speaker 3: western So and BRUCEI.
Speaker 2: Uh huh nah. You know you keep saying it's a physical,
Speaker 2: physical game, But for the DBS, it's that's a mental games. Smith,
Speaker 2: that's a that's a mental game. Because now you got
Speaker 2: your job playing against some of the greats weekend and
Speaker 2: week out. Is I need to make sure I keep
Speaker 2: him thinking the whole time. I need to make sure
Speaker 2: I keep him thinking the whole time, whether it's whether
Speaker 2: it's lining up, what's lining up right in front of him,
Speaker 2: shading inside, maybe shading outside, continue to give him different looks.
Speaker 2: How can I throw the time into this offense off
Speaker 2: to be able to give me an advantage at the
Speaker 2: deep as a back to slow him down? How can
Speaker 2: I mess up the time of their offense? I mean,
Speaker 2: it's so much that goes into it outside of just
Speaker 2: a physical aspect. It's a chess match up here.
Speaker 1: But you know what, O Joe, let's just say for
Speaker 1: the sake of argument, they're gonna bombard it they're gonna
Speaker 1: throw in fifteen passes. They're gonna give him fifteen targets.
Speaker 1: How many times you think I'm gonna throw the ball,
Speaker 1: And every time I gotta be perfect because if I'm
Speaker 1: laid on the out, if I'm laid on the out, ball,
Speaker 1: tell tell.
Speaker 3: The chat what's gonna happen?
Speaker 1: By the way, if hey, what happens if I if
Speaker 1: I missed the hot Anthony Richardson, what happened when you
Speaker 1: miss the hot?
Speaker 3: If you don't read, if you don't redirect the line.
Speaker 1: The line was going to the left, and you said okay,
Speaker 1: and you didn't rip it and send it right, that's
Speaker 1: what you should have done. You should have ripped it
Speaker 1: send so that way you slide the line to the right.
Speaker 1: Now you since you look at too the left, anybody
Speaker 1: comes off that side you throw hot.
Speaker 3: Mentally, nothing like the quarterback.
Speaker 1: It's the hard the hardest, the hardest thing to do,
Speaker 1: I believe in professional sports is hit the baseball.
Speaker 3: The hardest position to play is quarterback.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, That's why that's why you can get
Speaker 1: get That's why you can get guys that's third or
Speaker 1: fourth rounders and take off that quarterback position. Man, Hey,
Speaker 1: how many times? How many times the team them go two, three, four?
Speaker 1: You just told me the Cleveland Browns had thirty five
Speaker 1: starting quarterbacks. They did have more starting quarterbacks than starting quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: and they got.
Speaker 3: Two of them.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I got. I got another one
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 2: The Cleveland Browns have found probably their best corner they've
Speaker 2: ever had, Denzel Ward. You know how long it took
Speaker 2: for them to find a Denzel Ward. They had Lee Bardon,
Speaker 2: Lee Bottom was really good. They had that, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean just before your time. They had hand forerdicted
Speaker 2: in Frank Minnifield. They were really good. They were they
Speaker 2: were Hey, you didn't do some homework? They were really good.
Speaker 2: No Ojo they were really good.
Speaker 1: Minifield and Dixon they were really no Ojo they were
Speaker 1: really good.
Speaker 3: Uh. I'm trying to think who else Cleveland had. They
Speaker 3: had Joe Hayden, Joe, But.
Speaker 2: Listen, Joe, Joe was great. Joe was good. Joe was
Speaker 2: really good. Lee Barton was very good. Day Dayla McCutcheon, Dayla,
Speaker 2: did I say it right?
Speaker 3: Remember? DAYLM.
Speaker 2: Cutch from USC Yeah, it was really good. But then
Speaker 2: zail Ward. Different oh Denzil Yeah, yeah, different ball game.
Speaker 3: Think about it.
Speaker 1: Okay, So name the quarterback equivalent of Denzel Ward in Cleveland?
Speaker 3: Named the name?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: What do you call him? The equivalent of Joe Hayden
Speaker 1: quarterback in Cleveland? I just gave you, just gave me
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks. Now give me the quarterback equivalent.
Speaker 2: Have been able to find one?
Speaker 3: Right? There you go? There you go?
Speaker 1: But look, this is this is like you said they
Speaker 1: left off huh pat P they left off for Sante.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think who else was? Yeah, that's two
Speaker 3: for sure. They left off.
Speaker 1: Pat P been to like seven eight Pro Bowls. I
Speaker 1: think a SI tele went to like three four Pro Bowls?
Speaker 3: Hold on? What what hell? Charles Wilson?
Speaker 2: Oh shoot, I forgot about wood.
Speaker 3: I just, first of.
Speaker 1: All, would it the man played the man played corner
Speaker 1: for ten years? Damn he wasn't always no saying no?
Speaker 2: Why that slipped my mind? Who the hell made this
Speaker 2: goddamn list? It shouldn't have been top five. They should
Speaker 2: have just said top ten because it's hard to squeeze
Speaker 2: five in when there's so many that's worthy of the
Speaker 2: worthy of a spot tyl well I'll always be that
Speaker 2: senior conversation with a Sonthey sandwich as.
Speaker 3: Well Tody Lloyd at the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know, with three Super Bowls, it
Speaker 1: was it was that Billy in the physicality that ty
Speaker 1: them dead. Remember on the on the on the Harrison,
Speaker 1: and on on the Greatest Show on Turf. How physical
Speaker 1: they work?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Coach Belichick, that's Coach Belichick stared with he with the Giants.
Speaker 1: They got physical with the Bills.
Speaker 2: In the face, yep, right up in your face.
Speaker 1: Man, who they left some people out didn't live here.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call Woody a Woody. They ain't got you
Speaker 1: on here.
Speaker 2: Listen that that ain't that ain't not doing whoever made
Speaker 2: that list?
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, the Joe Milton height may be already over
Speaker 1: in Dallas. Milton out of eighteen, one hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: two yard just one an exception. With all the hype
Speaker 1: around Milton's arm, is he proven just to be a
Speaker 1: combine or is it still too early?
Speaker 3: Oh Joe, Oh, that's.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one. It's great.
Speaker 1: People get enamored with how far somebody could throw the ball.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady was throwing the ball seventy yards, Joe Montana,
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, all the great quarters. I mean you've had
Speaker 1: you've had a few l Way Marino, You've had a
Speaker 1: few quarterbacks that can throw the ball sixty seventy yards?
Speaker 3: But damn is it accurate?
Speaker 1: Can you give me forty an accurate as opposed to
Speaker 1: somebody could throw the ball seventy eighty yards? Because how
Speaker 1: many times you go throw this? Unless you throw the
Speaker 1: hell man from your own day thirty like Cordell Stewart.
Speaker 3: See you beat Michigan. When are you gonna use a
Speaker 3: sixty seventy yard arm?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, you're right. I mean listen, being able
Speaker 2: to do it. Everyone's enamored with the arm strength and
Speaker 2: not understanding what can you play an instruction environment? Be
Speaker 2: able to make all three level throws? You throw the
Speaker 2: short stuff? Can you throw the intermediate stuff?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: That's what I'm going That's that's that's what it all
Speaker 2: comes down to. Having the arm strength. That's like being
Speaker 2: able to run routes, but also being fast. Being fast, Okay,
Speaker 2: that's great, that's you're able to do everything else. Having
Speaker 2: a strong arm is great. We can't do the other
Speaker 2: things as well that are more important than just having
Speaker 2: the arm strength itself.
Speaker 1: It's it's like it's like being able to jump in basketball. Boy,
Speaker 1: that Joe, we jump out the gym. Can't you play basketball?
Speaker 3: Can he shoot? Kenny defend? That's what a big arm? Okay?
Speaker 1: Boy, that Joe a he thowt Hey he can a
Speaker 1: one knee, o Joe and split the uprights from the fifty.
Speaker 3: Okay? So how many times are you gonna be throwing
Speaker 3: it from his knee? Okay? When he's standing on two
Speaker 3: feet and he's throwing the twelve yard out? Can you
Speaker 3: when you throw it? When you throwing the fifteen yard comeback?
Speaker 3: Or the hook? Can't make it on the shallow cross?
Speaker 2: Don't make it that easy? Can he do all the
Speaker 2: those throws with pressure coming at him and being able
Speaker 2: to step up in the pocket and still be accurate
Speaker 2: and make those throws?
Speaker 1: That's I need you to be able to do some
Speaker 1: of the things under the rest. Can you do it
Speaker 1: under the rest? Because I know when it's clean, every
Speaker 1: quarterback will look good if it's a clean pocket. It's
Speaker 1: just like man the zone. Everybody can find the zone.
Speaker 1: Find a damn area in the zone, no joke. But
Speaker 1: when that Joe said, when he right there across from you,
Speaker 1: he want he too here one yard away from you,
Speaker 1: and he's sitting down in your face?
Speaker 3: Can you get over there?
Speaker 1: And I ain't talking about taking you all day because
Speaker 1: the quarterback can't be back there jacket patting the ball. Damn,
Speaker 1: I'm about to talk like we talking football back there
Speaker 1: patting the football. Oh, I'm like, damn, son, how much
Speaker 1: time do you think the quarterback got that You're gonna
Speaker 1: make five moves? You're run a stud of go out
Speaker 1: and go. But listen, how you run a stud.
Speaker 3: Of go out and go?
Speaker 2: We'll say, I'm not sure how much patience team have,
Speaker 2: but with a quarterback like that, it has that kind
Speaker 2: of arm. It would be a great project to continue
Speaker 2: to help develop him. Maybe in the right situation he
Speaker 2: can be pivotal for an offense. Maybe not the Cowboys,
Speaker 2: maybe not the Cowboys, but somewhere. Just allow him to
Speaker 2: continue to develop under the right tootelage in the off season.
Speaker 2: Going to see a Jordan Palmer working on your game,
Speaker 2: not throwing the ball deep, working on your game all the.
Speaker 1: I would limit it that I wouldn't call it. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't call the hall a bunch of Okay, he can
Speaker 1: throw the deep ball, it's the other stuff. See, this
Speaker 1: is what I have the utmost respect for Tyreek because
Speaker 1: he didn't become reliant on his spad. He became a technician.
Speaker 1: Tyreek can run the round tree wells. But when he
Speaker 1: first got into the league, he was mainly a gadget guy.
Speaker 1: They give it to him on jet sweets and toss
Speaker 1: it to him and things like that. But Tyreek says,
Speaker 1: in order for me to be the type of player
Speaker 1: that I want to be, I'm gonna have to learn
Speaker 1: this route tree. I'm gonna have to run the stop.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to run the out. I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to run the slam. I' gonna have to run a comeback,
Speaker 1: dig the over, I'm gonna have to run. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to be a complete And he didn't become. Yeah,
Speaker 1: his speed is a added bonus. But Tyree can run
Speaker 1: the tree, and a lot of times guys just become
Speaker 1: relied on speed. They slop it round. They just they guys.
Speaker 1: If you just run, if you just run, the guy
Speaker 1: just gonna run right in front of you. He gonna
Speaker 1: pin you to the side, and he's gonna run your
Speaker 1: ass out of bounds. I don't care how much feed
Speaker 1: you guy. If you don't stack that guy, he'll run
Speaker 1: you out of bounds. He gonna make He'll make the
Speaker 1: quarterback make. He'll make you. He'll make you make the
Speaker 1: quarterback drop it down to chimb, which means.
Speaker 2: It has to be every time.
Speaker 1: You gotta stack it and suit as soon as soon
Speaker 1: as you get around him, you got to start squeezing
Speaker 1: him back in to give your quarterback an opportunity to
Speaker 1: throw the ball over here, to put.
Speaker 3: It right here.
Speaker 2: Now, only way he can get to the ball is
Speaker 2: going through you.
Speaker 3: Go gotta go through you. That's a flag.
Speaker 1: But I think sometimes, oh, Joe, when you've been blessed
Speaker 1: with an attribute and and and Joe Milton's case, it's
Speaker 1: his arm. I don't know if he's worked on the
Speaker 1: minutia to find details of playing the quarterback position. How
Speaker 1: many time you see Tom Brady, how many time you
Speaker 1: see Tom Brady throw the ball sixty.
Speaker 2: Yards Moss, I've seen it a few times.
Speaker 1: I bet he got more passes to Edelman and and
Speaker 1: Wes Welker than he got the random Moss.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And what's the other guy named? What was
Speaker 3: the number eighty Brown?
Speaker 2: No? No, no, not okay, okay, he got more.
Speaker 1: Completions than a mon Dola to Edelman and Welker than
Speaker 1: he does Moss, because was what was that offense predicated on? Now,
Speaker 1: it was great because you got an opportunity to see
Speaker 1: him throw the ball down the field.
Speaker 3: But what was Tom who?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Tom Brady in that offense in newingand all
Speaker 2: those years is probably one of the few offenses of
Speaker 2: maybe the only offense. But the offenses run from the
Speaker 2: inside out. It's not red from the outside end. It's
Speaker 2: read from the inside out, which is why west Walker
Speaker 2: was so good anla tight end, tight ends hell, even
Speaker 2: the back.
Speaker 3: That's why.
Speaker 1: That's why they weren't reliant, man, they weren't reliant on
Speaker 1: outside guys outside the numbers.
Speaker 3: They've only had really one. Everything else was inside.
Speaker 1: When you go back and study them, you look at
Speaker 1: Troy Brown, you look at Patton, and you look at
Speaker 1: Dion Branch, you look at Amadola and Welker and Heleman.
Speaker 1: They were inside. The number of guys really the with
Speaker 1: that that couple of years that they had Moss. What
Speaker 1: was that two thousand and seven, two thousand and eight?
Speaker 1: What two thousand and seven? Because two thousand and eight
Speaker 1: Brady got hurt and that's what Castle and I think
Speaker 1: Moss came back. What played one more year? Might have
Speaker 1: played one more year with Brady two thousand and nine,
Speaker 1: I think I know he played.
Speaker 2: Two years there twenty three touchdown season.
Speaker 1: Two thousand and seven. Who that was the year they
Speaker 1: got beating the super Bowl? That was perfect. They were
Speaker 1: undefeated when they played the Giants.
Speaker 2: And Arizona Many the boy they lit it up that season.
Speaker 1: The Super Bowl logo theory is back Lions versus the Ravens.
Speaker 1: Super Bowl confirmed. Look at that old shoe, Lion versus who.
Speaker 3: Ravens.
Speaker 2: I have a question when you made the logo last
Speaker 2: year before before the season started, who was on the
Speaker 2: logo last year? Did they get it right?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: So did a simulation and they had the Packers beating
Speaker 1: the Ravens in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: So who's on the thing last year? Who did they
Speaker 3: have the colors?
Speaker 1: Because they I guess they're looking at the color waves
Speaker 1: and you're looking at the purple and you're looking at
Speaker 1: the sky blue.
Speaker 3: That's the Lion's color. So last year it was the
Speaker 3: Eagles Chiefs.
Speaker 2: Whoa serious?
Speaker 3: Yep?
Speaker 2: So so Lamar Jackson gonna get a Super Bowl this year.
Speaker 1: Man twenty six got the Packers beating the Ravens. But
Speaker 1: the logo thing, it didn't say who's winning.
Speaker 2: Hey, that's interesting.
Speaker 3: I like that. There's last year's your logo. You see
Speaker 3: the red and then you see the green.
Speaker 2: Wait, okay you see yeah yeah yeah yea, yeah yeah
Speaker 2: yeah yeah yeah, that's dope. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 2: know it as possible, and I know it's gonna be
Speaker 2: the Bengals, but okay.
Speaker 3: Nah, they say nothing about the Bangals, don't Joe, I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: you do see you do?
Speaker 2: You do see my team doing something they haven't done
Speaker 2: before playing in the preseason, right the starters, Joe Burrow, I.
Speaker 1: Mean I kind of see those team doing something they've
Speaker 1: done a lot miss the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Yeah all hey, listen, it's all funny games now. It's
Speaker 2: all funny games now.
Speaker 3: Oh Yoe.
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, Pass Russia, HBCU alum Texas Southern alum
Speaker 1: Michael Strahan said he used to eat fast food before
Speaker 1: every NFL game he played in I used to actually
Speaker 1: stop at fast food restaurants and eat before I got
Speaker 1: to the stadium.
Speaker 3: That was my pregame meal.
Speaker 2: But don't listen to me.
Speaker 3: Don't listen to me.
Speaker 2: I've been saying it for a very long time. All
Speaker 2: the greats have done it. I'm not saying I was great.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I played at a very high level
Speaker 2: for a very long time while why entertained. At the
Speaker 2: same time, he was always hurt though. Look, Michael Jordan,
Speaker 2: pregame meal is well documented. It was McDonald's hussin boat.
Speaker 2: It's well documented.
Speaker 3: Raid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe, the pregame pre If you want to eat
Speaker 1: it once or twice, that's fine. That was your staple.
Speaker 1: There's a difference. He said before every game. He didn't
Speaker 1: play a game every day.
Speaker 2: I know I ate it before every game. You ate
Speaker 2: it every day, right, But that's why I didn't get hurt.
Speaker 3: Okay, I like that.
Speaker 2: That's dope. That's dope. I'm glad Mike came out and
Speaker 2: said that, man, if further proves, if further proves method
Speaker 2: versus science, and I've been winning for a very long time.
Speaker 1: Super Bird is now officially enshrined in bronze in Seattle
Speaker 1: as the first w n B A statue in history.
Speaker 2: We're gonna deserve get that.
Speaker 3: That's wrong? Yeah, like that got the ponytail waving.
Speaker 4: Hey, man, listen, I know you know what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 4: D T gonna be the next one, Deanna TROSSI yeah,
Speaker 4: DT cat But hell, where would Candas Park is gonna be?
Speaker 4: Would it be at the sparks of Chicagos?
Speaker 3: Hey?
Speaker 2: What if I get a statue like that, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: get a statue made. I'm gonna just put it out
Speaker 2: there in front of in front of paid Course Stadium.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put it there on my own Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm put it and put it on put it on.
Speaker 3: Uh that's nice.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a huge an unbelievable honor and and
Speaker 1: and and and and deserving what Oh Maya Moore, Maya
Speaker 1: more definitely need to get one in from of Minnesota.
Speaker 1: They ain't got no team, no more, damn nobody putting that?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: Yah?
Speaker 3: They ain't got no team. Hey, they need you know what?
Speaker 2: Speaking of statues, statues, whoever did Joe Buss and and
Speaker 2: uh and ed reading all them? They need to go
Speaker 2: the wage statue, need to redo it.
Speaker 3: I'm man need Blair Deal Mind and ed Reads.
Speaker 2: Yeah they need, they needed, they need uh yeah they are.
Speaker 2: They need to reduce d ways.
Speaker 3: Man, go ahead.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying. I'm just saying. The head was too
Speaker 2: small for the statue for the body.
Speaker 1: But a suzone look well, looks well and very well deserved.
Speaker 1: But I think they're gonna be a few. Obviously, my
Speaker 1: are not.
Speaker 3: Maya more.
Speaker 1: Asian Asians gonna get well, she already got one of
Speaker 1: us of South Carolina, so she's gonna have another one
Speaker 1: out here. NBA Young Boy with the same amount of
Speaker 1: top ten albums, but jay Z and Nads is crazy.
Speaker 1: Here are some rappers with the most top ten albums
Speaker 1: and Billboard's Top two hundred chart history. Surprised by any
Speaker 1: of these old Joe Future got eighteen, Drake seventeen, Whole
Speaker 1: sixteen Nods sixteen, NBA Young Boys.
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised by none of them. Now.
Speaker 1: Listen rappers with the most Billboard Top ten albums Eminem thirteen,
Speaker 1: Kanye West is number seven with thirteen, Lil Wayne thirteen,
Speaker 1: Jezy got eleven Snoop Deal, Double G got a level
Speaker 1: MM hmm.
Speaker 2: God, yeah, that that that can't that can't be surprising
Speaker 2: at all because all all of those are they, uh.
Speaker 3: The NBA young boys up there historically, Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised you are surprised about NB young Boy, Yah
Speaker 2: where you better get hit? My kids. My kids put
Speaker 2: me down and got me understanding. NB a young boy.
Speaker 2: But he liked that, he like, he liked that.
Speaker 3: Do you see the name that's on that see.
Speaker 2: The name, like, do you do you understand who NBA
Speaker 2: Young Boy is? Clearly a young young boy like that
Speaker 2: boy out of New Orleans? Now, he a real deal.
Speaker 2: He a real deal.
Speaker 1: That man what that man tied with hole and that
Speaker 1: man got more. That man got more than m M,
Speaker 1: more than Kanye, more than Wheezy, more than it's hard.
Speaker 3: To talk about more. All let me do it again. Listen,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you what song to listen to.
Speaker 2: Hold I'm gonna tell you a song. Listen to you
Speaker 2: talking about NB A young Boy, young boy boy, he'd
Speaker 2: be snapping boy. Hold on, I'm gonna tell you, mm hmmm,
Speaker 2: damn what song was that?
Speaker 1: All right, it's time for our final segment of the evening.
Speaker 1: It's time for Q and Day find this song, Kevin,
Speaker 1: know what Junior said? Oh Joe, what happened to that
Speaker 1: twenty two eleven and eight game?
Speaker 3: Today?
Speaker 1: I could get three three points ten the sais he
Speaker 1: had us all believe it in you Oyo, I.
Speaker 2: Mean we won the game. Believe in that we won
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 1: Ocho Sady won the game Triple xcept Saturday. O Yo
Speaker 1: got to change the name o Cho Sito.
Speaker 3: You know what that means.
Speaker 2: It Spanish, right, O you zo Zo you got to
Speaker 2: say it right on, say it right.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you know that mean that's what we can
Speaker 3: move on. We can move on.
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure you pronounce it right,
Speaker 1: so you know it was zero. Aaron Johnes said, man
Speaker 1: who wrote that top five cornerback list, it must have
Speaker 1: been Jalen Ramsey cousin, because it ain't no way. Did
Speaker 1: we forget about Pat pe ed Woodson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they listen. They did top ten because it's
Speaker 2: too many. There's too many players that are deserving to
Speaker 2: be in that top five. That one in there, and
Speaker 2: depending on who you asked, the top five would change.
Speaker 3: Obviously.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find the NBA Young Boy song for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, see, you gotta find it. Rob Live said, whatever
Speaker 1: happened to Michael Kraftree?
Speaker 3: He was a dog?
Speaker 2: I see I saw Michael Crabtree when I was in
Speaker 2: Houston at one time. I went to watch the tank
Speaker 2: fight be Andre Johnson and Jonathan Joseph crab there.
Speaker 1: Okay, uh big Red big Ged said, Hey, I went
Speaker 1: back and watched the Ravens versus the Giants full game
Speaker 1: on YouTube. Y'all, defense was serious. I was born in
Speaker 1: two thousand and two. I've never seen a TF that
Speaker 1: that that for real?
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, I'm glad you just said that. Talk about
Speaker 2: defense man. People on Twitter arguing me down that the
Speaker 2: lesion of Boom was better than the raven two thousand
Speaker 2: defense man, and they talked about, oh, it's a different era.
Speaker 2: Oh they held Peyton manning the eight points in the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: Boy man, I just I just.
Speaker 1: Is Edeman the first ballot Hall of Famer? Also, guys eligible,
Speaker 1: do they do they look at Breaths or Philip Rivers
Speaker 1: for first ballot? Where Breathe is the first ballot? Edelman
Speaker 1: is not going on the first Do y'all know? Do
Speaker 1: y'all understand there have only been a hand full of
Speaker 1: receivers that's gone in on the first ballot for wide receiver.
Speaker 3: That is a hard position to go in. Yep, on
Speaker 3: the first ballot.
Speaker 1: Hell, I'm wo they might not be for about five
Speaker 1: or six, maybe five guys that's going in on the
Speaker 1: first ballot for the wide receivers. I think Megatron went
Speaker 1: in the first ballot. Randy did Steve larger Jerry I
Speaker 1: think he played with Cleveland and the Lance Paul Warpill.
Speaker 1: I think he was the first ballot. But it ain't
Speaker 1: been a whole bunch.
Speaker 3: Would you know what.
Speaker 2: Out of all them people that was first ballot and
Speaker 2: those that had to wait, you know who didn't.
Speaker 3: Need you know why? I ain't wait.
Speaker 2: I put my own damn jacket on in the middle
Speaker 2: of a game.
Speaker 1: Doctor, Frankie L. Bellamy, Have y'all seen highest the lowest
Speaker 1: that's out? I'm gonna watch that.
Speaker 2: Hey it's on. I gotta go to the theater.
Speaker 3: Huh, I guess I guess it just came out.
Speaker 2: Asked, is it in theaters or is it is it
Speaker 2: on the is it streaming? Can I watch it here
Speaker 2: in the hotel? But doctor, let me let me I'm
Speaker 2: go go ahead and finish your doctors question question. I
Speaker 2: think you would have been great in it of the
Speaker 2: movie with Denzel and your cousin out. You know my
Speaker 2: cousin he act, now he act, he acts?
Speaker 3: Oh Lord, have mercy what he acts. You'll be able
Speaker 3: to streaming on September fifth, is matter of fact.
Speaker 2: When I get to Mary tomorrow, I gonna check it out.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna check it out tomorrow. That yeah, I'm trying
Speaker 2: to fight the NB A Young Boy song for you.
Speaker 2: I'm a fan it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that let me.
Speaker 2: You got to say he has too many albums. I
Speaker 2: want one specific song, so you understand. I think it's
Speaker 2: off the Never Broke Again album, but I don't think
Speaker 2: that's it.
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Speaker 3: Ain't happening. Where is mm hmm