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Speaker 1: Fat Joe? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, what's up y'all? What's going on? Brothers?
Speaker 1: What's going on? What's going on? My brother? Last night,
Speaker 1: I got a chance to be in your studio session
Speaker 1: and you and Remy ma actually done album. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: crazy though, Now I'm good. Nah, you're humble. I don't
Speaker 1: have to be humble for you. I'm hold up people
Speaker 1: like us. We weren't there. So when you down together,
Speaker 1: what do you mean by that it was a complete
Speaker 1: album together? Or executive produce her? You know me and
Speaker 1: huh back and forth? Wow, sh crazy. I was amazed,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Because I heard Remy's mixtape.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't think that was Remy mall. Like.
Speaker 1: What I mean by that is I didn't I didn't
Speaker 1: think she felt comfortable with the mixtape, Like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But when I came over from jail
Speaker 1: six years right, and um, everybody and their money, everybody
Speaker 1: and their mother ran at her. And you know, she
Speaker 1: had certain loyalties to, like certain producers that she'd been
Speaker 1: working with for years, so everybody was running out and
Speaker 1: she was just like, all right, hy So this is
Speaker 1: how I don't think she really even knew what was hot.
Speaker 1: So what's crazy was you know, we all know it's
Speaker 1: rapping is like riding a bike, like you know, we
Speaker 1: know she nice and ship. She just gotta get in
Speaker 1: pocket and make and be produced, right, so you know
Speaker 1: that mixtape? Let me talk right there. Do you feel
Speaker 1: like you kind of even though you probably didn't touch
Speaker 1: no buttons, but you felt you felt like you produced
Speaker 1: this though? Because it's like it's like it's like if
Speaker 1: lean Back had babies. That's what I felt like. It
Speaker 1: was like it was but you know how perfect that
Speaker 1: record is, like how how it hit the moment, not
Speaker 1: just New York City, but that's what the whole album
Speaker 1: felt like. It felt like Yeah, like if so, I
Speaker 1: kind of felt like you produced it although I produced it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's all ship it's all and she sounds. So what
Speaker 1: happened was I was on the couch when she gave
Speaker 1: me to go ahead. You know, usually, how did this happen?
Speaker 1: How did the talk happen? Y'all doing well? Me and her?
Speaker 1: We was just you know, before she even came out,
Speaker 1: we talked on the phone. We squashed whatever beefs we
Speaker 1: had or whatever the case. Maybe I never really had
Speaker 1: beet for Remy. Um. And then uh so when she
Speaker 1: came home, we started going to dinner lunch, like she
Speaker 1: was just called me up, yo, where you at? Like
Speaker 1: I'm in the Bronx. She come over eat and we
Speaker 1: just brother and sister ship and then um, she told me.
Speaker 1: She was like yo, she was like, um, you ready
Speaker 1: to get it in? And I was like, yo, I'm
Speaker 1: I've been waiting. I'm like you know, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to push you. I saw what. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Remy's bugged out. So I don't want this podcast how
Speaker 1: to hear this and get mad at me. But you know,
Speaker 1: like I saw her, niggas was pulling up when she
Speaker 1: first came home, Like niggas, you know, two days after
Speaker 1: she come home for six years Swiss Beats got a
Speaker 1: record with her this, but now everybody was tugging on her.
Speaker 1: She came home like the female Tupac. Let's just keep it, yeah,
Speaker 1: like a female Tupac. So I'm sitting back like I
Speaker 1: know it's best, but you know it's not not gonna do.
Speaker 1: Let her do what you gotta do, do what she
Speaker 1: gotta do. So soon as she told me, I was like, yo, like,
Speaker 1: I mean it should know brainer, Like I knew that
Speaker 1: was supposed to happen a long time ago, but it
Speaker 1: was presented to you as a whole project at first,
Speaker 1: or justica right happened what she said. We did the
Speaker 1: b X Fight Club, So that's the that's the only
Speaker 1: time I performed doing and all those years. So they
Speaker 1: had me I did. I did a favorite for holding them,
Speaker 1: and I brought up b X wolever for the ships.
Speaker 1: So I came out. We had to. We had to.
Speaker 1: We had so I had to. So I went over
Speaker 1: there and I did it the Bronxes and there deep
Speaker 1: and I brought out Red Me as a surprise, and
Speaker 1: uh and you know, just the smiles and people's eyes
Speaker 1: and what I always say is people like fat Joe
Speaker 1: a lot, and people like Remy ma a lot. They
Speaker 1: love sat Joe and Remy. So it was just different,
Speaker 1: Like I'm looking at the crowd, she's rocking, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at her. So afterwards, when I walk into the car,
Speaker 1: She's like, yo, man, it is different. Man, like these
Speaker 1: these people go they love to see me with you
Speaker 1: is different, YOA. I'm telling you, I've been performing everywhere.
Speaker 1: It's different when I stand with you. I said, so
Speaker 1: what are you saying? You know you want me to
Speaker 1: get to it. She's like all right. So then I
Speaker 1: sat on the couch and you know it had to
Speaker 1: be perfect, like I view us and I don't want
Speaker 1: to just to kill me, but like a jay Z,
Speaker 1: Kanye West, like a Snoop Dog Dr Dre like a
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta realize the last record we put
Speaker 1: out with forty seven week number one, which lean Back,
Speaker 1: so everybody makes a noise for Adam, So you know
Speaker 1: that ship was like that ship was like number one
Speaker 1: record for nine years and nine months. And the nigga
Speaker 1: who beat us was Flow Rut of Low, so like
Speaker 1: he beats everybody, Yeah, he beat me, Like we almost
Speaker 1: had the song of the decade. Rolling episode in a
Speaker 1: decade for that. So so you know, when when I
Speaker 1: came to funk with this, I was like, all, this
Speaker 1: ship got to be incredible. She knew that too. Sean
Speaker 1: sat on the couch and usually took me a month.
Speaker 1: It took me like nine months, and I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 1: You know, you know me and you're my brother, and
Speaker 1: he called me to Puerto Rican puff Daddy, this nigg
Speaker 1: is crazy for years. So I actually was confused. So
Speaker 1: this was the first time in my life that I
Speaker 1: made a project that I was actually challenged, Like I
Speaker 1: was like questioning myself because I wanted it to be
Speaker 1: so perfect that I was like, oh, ship. So the
Speaker 1: problem is we come from a different era, right, and
Speaker 1: we got fat Joe Remy fans. But yeah, instead, we
Speaker 1: want to make music that relevant with these young niggas too,
Speaker 1: but not sound crazy, like like not not do the
Speaker 1: picking my bookers, picking my bookers. We don't want to
Speaker 1: do that ship right, but we want to do music
Speaker 1: that a DJ. Right now it feels like Joe Crack
Speaker 1: Remy mall, but we could turn that bit up and
Speaker 1: fucking rolesque k O D. Right now. That's hard, like
Speaker 1: really hard, Like I'm telling you I know everything about music,
Speaker 1: like I mean, like I don't even know. I don't
Speaker 1: know how to explain it to you in any other way.
Speaker 1: It's like call you back to give me some wine.
Speaker 1: So listen, the nigga turned around, nigga Nori stupid, So
Speaker 1: the nigga turned around. It was hard to do, Norri.
Speaker 1: So it's almost I had to become a chemist. So
Speaker 1: not only was I on the couch, I was in
Speaker 1: all the clubs like day and night, day and night
Speaker 1: while I was doing it. So I went to Toronto
Speaker 1: for a weekend and went to twenty clubs and sat there,
Speaker 1: and most of the ship they was playing I didn't
Speaker 1: even know it. I went to Washington Heights, sat in
Speaker 1: every club every night sushi to see what they're doing,
Speaker 1: sushi mambo. I went to the Brooklyn to Queens, to
Speaker 1: the strip clubs, so that everywhere to hear what the
Speaker 1: funk was going on now in New York City is
Speaker 1: only in Queens. Just want to throw it out there.
Speaker 1: Continuing story, sir, Well, I was in Georgia's diner last
Speaker 1: and I was looking for you on so I'm chilling right.
Speaker 1: So the long story short, I wanted it to be perfect.
Speaker 1: I still wanted to be perfect, and it was a
Speaker 1: hard thing to do. So you know the fact with Remy,
Speaker 1: you know, even Pat Poos he turned around and he
Speaker 1: was like, yo Joe. He was like, you know, he said,
Speaker 1: So I'm telling Remy, Yo, come to Miami, come of studio,
Speaker 1: come on, let's rock out. So she got a husband now,
Speaker 1: she and my little sister, you know, back of the bus.
Speaker 1: She could just leave. She got a fucking family husband.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what's going on. So I gotta
Speaker 1: go to New York and turned up with her and
Speaker 1: be like, I I rented the studio, let's go, let's
Speaker 1: lock in down right. So by the second day, the
Speaker 1: nigga Pat who said, Yo Joe, you know why I
Speaker 1: said what he said? Man, my bag, I said what
Speaker 1: you mean? He said, because you know it's my wife.
Speaker 1: She's telling me she got to go to Miami and
Speaker 1: stayed for two weeks or three weeks with Joe. I'm like, funk,
Speaker 1: that sound like right? So non he's he's serious. So
Speaker 1: but he was like, Yo, I've been in here with
Speaker 1: you two days. He's like, the ship you bring out
Speaker 1: of her? The ship, y'all niggas get from each other.
Speaker 1: I get it. I gotta be with each other. The
Speaker 1: chemistry is crazy. You gotta be with each other. You
Speaker 1: gotta turn up with each other. So you know, it
Speaker 1: was crazy, and you know we did. We did her
Speaker 1: half in New York and you know we have fred
Speaker 1: de Garson in the studio every day. You know, Pat
Speaker 1: who's was chilling. She was there, so we I just
Speaker 1: felt like we was just real well grounded with the
Speaker 1: musically the whole project in New York City. No. I
Speaker 1: produced it in Miami, and then I went up to
Speaker 1: New York to do Remy's half in New York. So wait, wait,
Speaker 1: but from that research that you did when you was
Speaker 1: going to the different clubs and what what did you
Speaker 1: get out of that? Did you get? So I got
Speaker 1: what I got you needed? Yes, I did, and got
Speaker 1: a lot of literate shit um of the universe of
Speaker 1: what's going on? What did that bring to the project
Speaker 1: that brought the single singles called all the Way Up?
Speaker 1: So what happened was I was featuring or yeah, keeping
Speaker 1: that featuring in French Montana. My single off Drunk Uncle
Speaker 1: is also featuring in French Montanna. So New Yorker just
Speaker 1: keeping in New York right now being ourselves at that
Speaker 1: shout out. Come on Produce is produced by exclusive young,
Speaker 1: up and coming producer out here in Miami. The nigg
Speaker 1: is incredible, He's the future. And also Infrared wrote the hook.
Speaker 1: So Infrared, you know that's my brother. Maybe any drunk
Speaker 1: nigga in the world, you know, I love him. So
Speaker 1: I was in Washington Heights and I was just studying
Speaker 1: the crowd. See when I go to clubs, it's like
Speaker 1: being in college. I watched to see what the bitches like.
Speaker 1: I see what the niggas like. I see what how
Speaker 1: niggas feel, the drug dealing, niggative, broke, niggative. I'm just
Speaker 1: watching everything. So I'm sitting there. You might be thinking, Yo,
Speaker 1: this nigga, Joe Crack is even full of himself, or
Speaker 1: you know he's arrogant, or what the fund is wrong
Speaker 1: with him? But I'm sitting in I'm studying everything, every
Speaker 1: movement popping, so that when I go in the studio.
Speaker 1: That's how I created Making Rain, That's how I created
Speaker 1: Leaned Back, and all my heads was like I study
Speaker 1: it and then when I get in the lab, I
Speaker 1: could just see the whole it's like I'm in the club,
Speaker 1: so I know what it is. And I realized that
Speaker 1: these niggers want to say I'm all away up. Nothing
Speaker 1: can stop me. I'm all away up. That's what they
Speaker 1: want to say standing on the couch at the club.
Speaker 1: So sh incredible, man, that what you're gonna call the
Speaker 1: project is fat Joe. But we're gonna debut the title
Speaker 1: right now, and I hope niggers don't jack us shut
Speaker 1: up debut with I think I mean your friend. But
Speaker 1: the name of the album is called that's right, Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: So the name of the album is called hard Money
Speaker 1: or Bullets. You know what I'm saying. However you want it,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. When you got probably paying.
Speaker 1: But if you're front, you know what's coming. But it's
Speaker 1: not a group name though. No, don't fat Joe featuring
Speaker 1: Remy or Remy featuring it's brotherly love niggers, both of us.
Speaker 1: Now you think it's about the album independent? We are independent.
Speaker 1: Everything I put out the last nine years been independent.
Speaker 1: And make your rain win number three in the country,
Speaker 1: and talk about win number three, I depended another round
Speaker 1: number three. Independent. Everything I do, I've been independent. All right,
Speaker 1: you off snapchat duties now because I need you with
Speaker 1: the with the with the whistle. Good. That a good guy. Listen, listen,
Speaker 1: that's that's my guy. He's helping right now. That's what
Speaker 1: I got. Yo got everybody he got must anybody YO
Speaker 1: rights watching nor he's a bully. He's picking on the
Speaker 1: littlest guy here. Hey, this is my guy right here. Listen,
Speaker 1: you have duty when you're down with our cool mother.
Speaker 1: You're small big. Everybody has loved you round the vibe
Speaker 1: of your crew. I love everybody's team spirited. But you've
Speaker 1: always maintained that whether you was working with niggas and
Speaker 1: the Bronze Queens wherever, you know, you such a real guy,
Speaker 1: such down the earth that you know niggas clean to
Speaker 1: you and they love you. So everybody played their position.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that that's what it is.
Speaker 1: You know what me? People don't realize. You know, I
Speaker 1: was always number two and then was forced to go
Speaker 1: number one. So now how I could explain that to you?
Speaker 1: When when I came up in the streets, My guy
Speaker 1: Tony Montana, he was number one terror squad always, so
Speaker 1: Joe Crack was vice president type ship. You know, he
Speaker 1: was the live wire and I come up in there
Speaker 1: after he do some crazy shit, clean it up right,
Speaker 1: So then, um, you know, and then when he passed,
Speaker 1: my brother was number one, and I always maintained number two.
Speaker 1: So I always been cool being number two. So then
Speaker 1: when I started rapping and it's fat Joe and then
Speaker 1: I'll bring Pun in the game. And I realized that
Speaker 1: Pun is a hundred times better than me, I felt
Speaker 1: right into number two. I was like, yolet I'll hold
Speaker 1: it off for this. I ask you something I always wondered.
Speaker 1: So you met Remy through Pun? Yes, sir, so, so
Speaker 1: Pun had Remy. She is big puns artists because I
Speaker 1: remember Pun. I don't remember Pun. I was so jealous.
Speaker 1: I was so jealous because it wasn't too many crews
Speaker 1: where you had a nigger as nice at Pun, and
Speaker 1: then you had a bitch. There was like the nicest
Speaker 1: bitch in the game. So he was like, yo, Twin,
Speaker 1: I want you to hear this girl. I signed. I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, so I see it. She had the level
Speaker 1: vest I can never forget that ship. And then she
Speaker 1: just went off for like ten minutes streets and that's
Speaker 1: when she was saying, I shoot the air, bubble up
Speaker 1: your sneakers, and she was just going I was like
Speaker 1: so jealous. Man. I was sitting there like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: why my head was saying why I didn't find her?
Speaker 1: Why I didn't find So then after she rocks Punt
Speaker 1: hits Museral twin. You know, she your artist twin, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, she signed to me, but we signed to you.
Speaker 1: Was label here had a label. It was Terror Squawk
Speaker 1: the whole time he discovered her. Friends, he's trying to say, yoe,
Speaker 1: he's signed that he discovering up. But he's like like
Speaker 1: it was coming to you anyway. But I'm just saying
Speaker 1: I want to say my artist, my nigga, thank God,
Speaker 1: And uh, you know what you did to deal with
Speaker 1: her after Punt passed Ornament was alive, we just did.
Speaker 1: We did the deal with her. But while Palm was alive.
Speaker 1: You know, you know that I'm saying, most loyal realist
Speaker 1: in the world. We don't just say that because he's
Speaker 1: dead because some nigga is dad piece of ship. You know,
Speaker 1: Pum was one of the most loyalist niggers in the world.
Speaker 1: But most fun I mean the way I say, it
Speaker 1: is like, you know, I was the youngest kid in
Speaker 1: my house. You know what I'm saying. I never had
Speaker 1: a younger brother, so Poem was like the young brother
Speaker 1: I never had, and I was like the big brother
Speaker 1: he never had. And uh, immediately, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: it's almost like a relationship. Um. You know, in order
Speaker 1: to make a marriage last, it's like you really got
Speaker 1: to sign it mentally and heart wise. You gotta really
Speaker 1: say you no matter what happens, I want to stay
Speaker 1: with this woman for the rest of my life. And
Speaker 1: goddamn cut your hands for that academic Come on, Joe,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, let's not it's just like y'all, but
Speaker 1: nobody stopping this ship, right. And it's the same thing
Speaker 1: with like you know, with with me and pun. You know,
Speaker 1: after I heard him around for the first time, he
Speaker 1: sat in my call and he immediately I don't know
Speaker 1: how and why, but he was telling me ship. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't tell Nori now out about myself, and that's my brother.
Speaker 1: Like I could go to war with Norri, like I
Speaker 1: would really kill for Nori. He'll kill for me. I
Speaker 1: would not tell him some personal ship in my family
Speaker 1: growing up and know that. So five minutes later, mind
Speaker 1: with the nigga. This nigg is telling me the deepest
Speaker 1: ship I ever heard enough, and I'm sitting there with him.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, you know, I'm a street nigga.
Speaker 1: I'm like, why is this naked telling me all this ship? Right?
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there like this. So I knew his
Speaker 1: life story the first twenty minutes after I left them
Speaker 1: I met him. I already knew it. But let everybody
Speaker 1: asked you something because we were in and there like
Speaker 1: like like ta to right, had jay Z's boy had
Speaker 1: brought me beyond that right and I had to joint
Speaker 1: And he said, Yo, she wants to do this racket.
Speaker 1: She wants to do it like Barbados and listen, check
Speaker 1: to check what I said. But she wonted fifteen bands.
Speaker 1: I had a million dollar budget at the time. I
Speaker 1: said no, Right, I said, no, I passed on that.
Speaker 1: Did you know the minute you met pun that this
Speaker 1: was the next dude or was it instant or like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest with you. Um,
Speaker 1: I know music probably more than anybody. It's just the truth.
Speaker 1: If this industry wasn't scared of me for being such
Speaker 1: a gangster. N I would be the president of everything.
Speaker 1: Nobody really know more than me. Every time they turned
Speaker 1: around and they give a nigga a new job, they
Speaker 1: I put it on blast. The minute they gave Joey
Speaker 1: I president of in the scope, he picked the phone up,
Speaker 1: call me and say, I learned everything from you, my brother. Please,
Speaker 1: you don't even understand everything I know. It's because of you.
Speaker 1: Everything I like. Niggas get presidents and they studied you
Speaker 1: my whole life. You are the smartest nick in here.
Speaker 1: But they're scared of me, so they won't give me
Speaker 1: that position. Don't know why, because I'm the nicest nick
Speaker 1: in the world. Right, So when I met pun and
Speaker 1: then Nigger started rapping, so alright, the scene is, I
Speaker 1: told them in terms I don't want to tell ship
Speaker 1: on your ship that I told everybody. But but I'm
Speaker 1: just saying because we're family, so I go. You know,
Speaker 1: I was one of the only him being another one too,
Speaker 1: so I can't start on him. But I'm one of
Speaker 1: the only rappers that actually was rich, actually was gold
Speaker 1: already and were still in my hood like I live
Speaker 1: in apartment five E. Like, literally, hold on, everybody better
Speaker 1: make noise for this. I am also from apartment five E,
Speaker 1: so you know what's crazy. I studied hip hop. Jay
Speaker 1: Z was also from apartment five What does that mean? Project?
Speaker 1: You gotta brings from Miami? Now I know what literally
Speaker 1: what that means. I'm saying, is there a hitt of
Speaker 1: meeting behind them? We're gonna You're not gonna ask. Let
Speaker 1: me also make some noise for my brother Kate. You
Speaker 1: know Ray Kawan's brother. He once hogs. Happy Birthday, Happy Birthday.
Speaker 1: He said, I didn't seen it. Go okay, okay, excuse me.
Speaker 1: Somebody to get that man to drink. Somebody get that man.
Speaker 1: We ain't got no brown. We ain't got no brown. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I know you called me and I'll tell you I
Speaker 1: had it, but nobody never gave me my sneakers, my
Speaker 1: purple first. Wait, hold on, we got it, he told
Speaker 1: mem gonna go pick it up because I still get
Speaker 1: him on. They gone, Joe, Let's let's go straight. I'm
Speaker 1: glad you brought into him. Are you the sneaker king? Um?
Speaker 1: And if you are, are you aboff Colin? Because I
Speaker 1: felt like you on and now they can't funk with me. Okay,
Speaker 1: I needed I'm saying that. Okay, let's be clear. But
Speaker 1: you put him on because I put him onto the
Speaker 1: sneaky game. You know, he's my brother. He's coming up
Speaker 1: under the the culture. He's just Kellen is like a
Speaker 1: fat Joe on steroids, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: he's been with all Yeah, he's on extra drums and
Speaker 1: do that. When I when I went, when I went
Speaker 1: and got him his record deal at CODs, I started
Speaker 1: a relativity with Alan grum Black, so we didn't really
Speaker 1: even have no music or nothing like that. So when
Speaker 1: Callen kept bothering me like yo, I want to do
Speaker 1: this album. I want to do this album, I said, Nick,
Speaker 1: let's go to New York, right, So we went up
Speaker 1: in there and the first thing I told Alan Grimler,
Speaker 1: I said, you don't understand this. Nick is incredible. He's
Speaker 1: a hit maker and he's fat Joe on He so Alan,
Speaker 1: of course, but Alan grun Black, No, no, no, that
Speaker 1: that Alan grum Black. He just went on for what
Speaker 1: I told him like like it was. He just went
Speaker 1: off for me, hyping them up, telling them like he
Speaker 1: wanted to be in business with that Joe so much
Speaker 1: that he turned. It was like, Yo, this sneaker Joe
Speaker 1: never lied to me, and it was the best thing
Speaker 1: he ever did in his life because all grown black
Speaker 1: pain back pain. No, I never got royal chiefs. I
Speaker 1: know that. I don't know the answer. Nobody gets. He
Speaker 1: is a good guy, a little bit a little better
Speaker 1: cous I've never managed. Yeah, you know, nobody gets worried
Speaker 1: he's some con. But maybe we didn't deserve that. We
Speaker 1: gonna started royalty committee. We ever got to start something.
Speaker 1: So now let's get back to the sneaker thing. Because
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like you, my brother, right,
Speaker 1: You've always been, if I have to say, one of
Speaker 1: the best people, why ever man in my life at
Speaker 1: Joe's the smart guy. Now went to blow some noise
Speaker 1: to that. I feel like I feel like whatever connect
Speaker 1: you ever had, I'm always liberty at liberty to that,
Speaker 1: except you're sneaker connect. Never y Joe for MS, He'll
Speaker 1: give you his oozy man you know. But you know
Speaker 1: every time you get up here, I just always watched
Speaker 1: his feet. I'm like, he's advance. You have Michael Jordan's
Speaker 1: number on speed down? Is this is what happens. I
Speaker 1: don't have Michael Jordan's number on speed now, but uh,
Speaker 1: because I feel like you'd be cheating. You got your
Speaker 1: connect is a cheating connect. But I deserve it because
Speaker 1: I've been committed to the ship forever. Before it was
Speaker 1: cool to be a sneakerhead, I was a sneakerhead, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So they know I'm not a
Speaker 1: sneaker had like, you know, I gotta give it the
Speaker 1: college you college can't is a guy named Mayor. I
Speaker 1: don't know. While hasn't made my mathematics yet, he's my guy. God.
Speaker 1: You know, he's a god. He has his own sneaker
Speaker 1: at Nike correct, Yeah, I think so. Yeah, he has
Speaker 1: a cop he's uh, you know he put it down legends.
Speaker 1: You know, somebody offered you their own sneaker. Did you
Speaker 1: have like a step On Marbury sneak? Yeah, we did
Speaker 1: want for the community, very cheap, you know, give it
Speaker 1: to the kid. But now Kanye is killing them. If
Speaker 1: you would have your own sneak, a lie, like, what
Speaker 1: would you do it? It would be the hottest ship
Speaker 1: in the world. What we inspire to be? Who would
Speaker 1: you pick? I mean, I mean, I wouldn't say it
Speaker 1: because it's very smart. Man, so bad you're always doing sneaking?
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Speaker 1: so now let's just let's just we mind on everything.
Speaker 1: Probably the most fun I've ever had traveling was when
Speaker 1: Tras was hot. M hmm. Everybody's getting scared. It's pretty great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody's everybody's scared any days was awesome. I can't talk
Speaker 1: about that. I didn't say you go talking about it.
Speaker 1: I didn't even ask the question. It was just a
Speaker 1: state miss. It was just but Tras is played out?
Speaker 1: That is that bad? Is that good for the community?
Speaker 1: What do you mean? Tris is played out? People don't
Speaker 1: want to trust for the community, I believe. So everybody
Speaker 1: makes a noise for tri being dead. I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you when I got can see you, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: I stopped running track my personal story right I had
Speaker 1: I had to. I always had to write that was cool.
Speaker 1: But then one day I had three right, So I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I'll bust like nuts and they
Speaker 1: still want it more. I felt defeated. Oh you felt defeated.
Speaker 1: I felt defeated. All right, Well, what's different? You confusing both?
Speaker 1: The tris means like Nigga is running the train on
Speaker 1: a bit like one broad Managis is always just style, okay.
Speaker 1: Nag is always just stound, and you're tested as a
Speaker 1: man because one thing I noticed about women is that
Speaker 1: they can never have enough if you do it right now,
Speaker 1: not you can never have enough. You can never like
Speaker 1: they can never really tell you realistically and from the
Speaker 1: bottom of their heart. You know, I'm tired. I quit.
Speaker 1: They gonna keep going forever a couple of but that
Speaker 1: day I feel like the man they go from. They
Speaker 1: go from like y'all they want to get pleased. Actually,
Speaker 1: now this ship has worked. This niggas fucking me seven hours.
Speaker 1: I'm working like I mean salary for this ship right here.
Speaker 1: So tras is the trains Mina's are different thing. It's
Speaker 1: always a beautiful. I'm gonna get your story one time.
Speaker 1: I never put this out this footage. I actually have
Speaker 1: it on footage. One Jesus Tony sunshine, big fun. This
Speaker 1: is how that's how, that's how you know a big
Speaker 1: Pun was one of the greatest individuals in life. Pup
Speaker 1: Daddy pays me for a little Jerome. Remember a little
Speaker 1: Jerome back in the days. Well a little Jerome had
Speaker 1: did a blood money be so pup that he never
Speaker 1: pays good. But he pays but never pays good, but
Speaker 1: he pays. It's great. Pop hits me, says, I need
Speaker 1: you to do this. Put a room. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, cool, but like it's all one feet because
Speaker 1: you know, I was like, I'll do that for the
Speaker 1: song and then for the video. He's like, no, it's
Speaker 1: not how, it's not how Puff Daddy, it's all one
Speaker 1: feet Daddy, like a black jew gotta do you gotta
Speaker 1: do it. You gotta do it because daddy and never
Speaker 1: going front of Punt. You gonna go to his house
Speaker 1: for New Year. That makes up for every dance for everything.
Speaker 1: So bupa hits me and go all right. So now
Speaker 1: I'm shooting a little Jamma video. This is the carbon.
Speaker 1: You remember the car. I remember carn got puffed at
Speaker 1: the carbon. So Pun says, yo cool, Nori. Let's tell
Speaker 1: Nori to come over here. So now Pun got fucked
Speaker 1: up earlier. Today, Puppa's like, make sure you're on time, please, Nori.
Speaker 1: We don't have this kid, don't got a budget. Pun
Speaker 1: makes called me. He goes, Yo, come over to the
Speaker 1: carbon where you Actually, I said, you sure you want
Speaker 1: me to leave your video? Then Puppa's like parting with
Speaker 1: the slick and shooting my video and we just we
Speaker 1: just told him to leave. So I said, your punt,
Speaker 1: come over here. Punk comes over here. He brings Tony
Speaker 1: Sunshine and I forget what other two dudes, but I
Speaker 1: have it on camera one hundred percent. Remember I used
Speaker 1: to run around the camera. He was ahead of time.
Speaker 1: I was ahead of time. I was blogging before it
Speaker 1: was called blog blogging was blocked. So fun coms and
Speaker 1: these two chicks they see him. He's like yo, Asian
Speaker 1: girl and a black girl. Right, So I got my
Speaker 1: Bronx people with me, but I got my Queen's people.
Speaker 1: They all know each other, all the like the hood
Speaker 1: niggers like, they all know each other. So they're like, yo,
Speaker 1: we go on the vands like get something just never kissed,
Speaker 1: even just was gay nothing. It's on camera. I could
Speaker 1: prove this they kissed somebody's wife, now moms or somebody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why I even to put the job, to put
Speaker 1: the job right. So whatever. Then they had we had
Speaker 1: a Queen's versus Bronx funk off, like whoever bust? What's
Speaker 1: the loser? But why you We're all in the Van
Speaker 1: Van and the fantastic, Yo, my dude, and like it's
Speaker 1: like putting in that work. But were you right next
Speaker 1: to you? So you shouldn't bust? Like it's just like yo,
Speaker 1: you holding down. He's like, yeah, I got the whole
Speaker 1: ship on film. So now it was a wonderful day.
Speaker 1: It's a wonderful time. I don't know what pun yelled to, right,
Speaker 1: but they went and they got the super Squirts right,
Speaker 1: this is zero below degrees in New York City when
Speaker 1: he got the lords gun up the Supersquirts. What does
Speaker 1: New York City snow? I'm not I'm not talking about
Speaker 1: the Freshno, I'm talking about the snow where you see
Speaker 1: yellow ship in there and you see the black the
Speaker 1: black ship and they put the snow from the Super
Speaker 1: Squirted waited till it melted. The bitches, fuck the whole crew.
Speaker 1: Why do we have to do anything. As soon as
Speaker 1: they came up, they squirted the midsy have it a film,
Speaker 1: and the bitches. This is back in the days. They
Speaker 1: didn't even care they was last. They felt like, yo, yall,
Speaker 1: there's the one of the wildest nights in my life.
Speaker 1: This is a long time ago. It's very long ago.
Speaker 1: Pun You don't pun uh. You know. I was the
Speaker 1: only nig to control him, so he would be ducking
Speaker 1: me and ship because this nigga niggas calling me the cops.
Speaker 1: Cops was like, you know some niggas that was cool,
Speaker 1: and he was like, Yo, they're gonna lock that nigga,
Speaker 1: pun Up. I'm like what they say. He's shooting the
Speaker 1: old ladies coming out the supermarket with the super so
Speaker 1: so they go, y'all were in the hole. He's the
Speaker 1: only nigga with the six Honey great bands because we're
Speaker 1: gonna come. He's shooting the old ladies with the ship
Speaker 1: down the Soca and niggas like, yo, my nigga, he
Speaker 1: gonna go to jail for this. He's gonna be on
Speaker 1: the news. So I go over there. I gotta make
Speaker 1: a movie. Scream at pun us loudest you can scream. Motherfuck.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Nicker like the nigga is crazy. Man.
Speaker 1: He was crazy. He was crazy. Rest in peace he was.
Speaker 1: He was um, well you pun. It was my first
Speaker 1: friends in hip hop. Damn. He was the first. That
Speaker 1: was Sellouise Scott. I was so gass because the first
Speaker 1: ship he said was Hellois Scott holding guns all met
Speaker 1: me though, he was like, I'm not sure what I
Speaker 1: got to tell him a story with me. I called him.
Speaker 1: He was at the Puerto Rican Parade and I've seen
Speaker 1: him this the first time, and I helped him up.
Speaker 1: It was like thousands of niggas around me and helped
Speaker 1: them up. I don't remember remembering Tsunamia. So I helped
Speaker 1: the nigga up and I was like, Yo, what's up, nigga? Yo,
Speaker 1: we funk with you, nigga. We was hight right and
Speaker 1: then uh, but what he wants me to get that
Speaker 1: is he always said he's Spanish, but he'd be with
Speaker 1: black niggas and he looked black. So we never totally believed,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So one day I met
Speaker 1: Chicago and the nigga called me up. He's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: you gotta show at how some blues. I said, yeah.
Speaker 1: He said, Yo, my my family want to come to
Speaker 1: the show. So I'm like, I ain't no question nor
Speaker 1: stand at the hotel. I'm in the hotel to the
Speaker 1: niggas meet me in the lobby. I meet him. Nigga
Speaker 1: come over with the Guaya better some gray Road and
Speaker 1: Nigga's like, hey, Jude, I am no brother. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what is like? Bobby? I was like, what the fuck
Speaker 1: is really? I might have called Nigga jod this nigga.
Speaker 1: He wasn't frying. I'm looking at the port of niggas.
Speaker 1: He's really the real Porto Ricans came in Chicago, right.
Speaker 1: That was crazy. That was very funny, man, That was
Speaker 1: very funny. That was crazy, my niggah. So so so
Speaker 1: let me ask you something. Right, all the thing about
Speaker 1: you is what people don't understand about you is you're
Speaker 1: actually a lyricist m hm, Like you make party records.
Speaker 1: But even in your party record, like I told us,
Speaker 1: I said, Joe is one of my top friends of
Speaker 1: all time, but when it comes time to do a
Speaker 1: feature for me, he's like the worst less but not
Speaker 1: because he's not gonna do it. Is he takes his
Speaker 1: time with something like you actually do, Like I know
Speaker 1: you never dissed me, Like you're my brother, Like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I eat in your crib, my
Speaker 1: crib all the time with our families. You're my brother,
Speaker 1: so it's not But you're like, do you think you're perfectionists?
Speaker 1: Definitely a perfectionist with everything. Sometimes you know the way
Speaker 1: ship move nowadays, Um, niggas get mad at how I
Speaker 1: am because I like to roll it out right, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And that's key to a lot
Speaker 1: of ship. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm right. Maybe I
Speaker 1: ain't the smartest nigger, but I want to make sure
Speaker 1: ship gets its bucked for his money. What everything we do,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, um, with these young
Speaker 1: kids i'm working with right now that the first niggas
Speaker 1: I funk, within years they got fire and I'm still like, Yo,
Speaker 1: we need more, we need more because you can't make
Speaker 1: the first impression twice and then wrap wise. I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie to you. No matter who I wrap with,
Speaker 1: I try to take their head off. It's just a fact.
Speaker 1: I gotta go in and you know, you invite me,
Speaker 1: and it's very scared because fat jokers. People probably probably
Speaker 1: don't think he's the best rapper in the world. But
Speaker 1: hold on, I'm just saying. People probably don't think I'm
Speaker 1: the best rapper in the world, but I'm like the
Speaker 1: Mexican nigga. You don't want to fight in the Boston
Speaker 1: ring because he's not going down. He's a hell of
Speaker 1: a fight. Like he's one of the niggas that you
Speaker 1: know you're scared to fight. You're scared to fight him
Speaker 1: because you know he's gonna go You're gonna have to
Speaker 1: kill his nigger in the ring, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that's how it is with raps, because when you
Speaker 1: invite me to it, you know, and the worst nigger
Speaker 1: was punned. You know what I'm saying. What problem was
Speaker 1: going for nigga's heads? Man since pun died? Who was
Speaker 1: like a person that you did a record with and
Speaker 1: you was like, man, let me be on my best,
Speaker 1: best best everybody everybody. I tell my son that, But
Speaker 1: it's not like just one person. Everybody. Everybody. Every time
Speaker 1: I go into booth, All right, let me tell you
Speaker 1: a secret. I'll tell you in front of the whole
Speaker 1: world that I never told nobody, the whole world listening
Speaker 1: for the whole world listening. Goddamnit like that, Thank you
Speaker 1: very much. Every night my whole career, every night I
Speaker 1: got in the studio to this night. You know, I
Speaker 1: never know if I'm gonna die when I leave the studio,
Speaker 1: So when I do my work in the studio, I
Speaker 1: go the hardest I could go in history when I
Speaker 1: work on my music, because if I die, no, that's
Speaker 1: the only thing that's gonna remind people for years and years,
Speaker 1: twenty thirty years later that I put it down. Now,
Speaker 1: if you want to say fat job, you want me
Speaker 1: to tell you how I really feel. I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm one of the most underrated rappers of all time.
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm been in the game this long
Speaker 1: and I still make music. And every time, like every time,
Speaker 1: I'm like a little kid waiting for his fall on Christmas.
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for niggas to finally give it up. And
Speaker 1: they act like his luck. Then you've been in the
Speaker 1: game for twenty years, they act like his luck that
Speaker 1: you put out ten fifteen top number five records in
Speaker 1: the world. So Villians, they act like this ship like
Speaker 1: you know, he's just a lucky nigger. You understand what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but it takes it takes, you know, dedication
Speaker 1: to that. So like with this album with Remy, I'm
Speaker 1: spitting my asshole and I'm like, maybe this time they're
Speaker 1: finally listen to me, like, you know, because right now
Speaker 1: it's a little different me. I'm a little older. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I'm a veteran. The young niggas
Speaker 1: don't look at me as a threat no more. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying physically, they just don't look at me. It's
Speaker 1: like I'm their competition. So now they're able to say,
Speaker 1: you're my nigga, we love your ship. You know, you're
Speaker 1: a vat, You're funk with you nigga, you a legend.
Speaker 1: Before it was more like they were scared to tell
Speaker 1: me that because they felt like we were still competing.
Speaker 1: The thing they don't know is that we really still competing.
Speaker 1: I love that, love the album we got. We compete.
Speaker 1: So on this album right here, I'm spitting my ass
Speaker 1: off so that maybe just maybe niggas could look and
Speaker 1: listen to this album and be like, oh this nigga crazy.
Speaker 1: One more, what's the one record that a producer played
Speaker 1: for you and you didn't fun with Oh you're crazy
Speaker 1: and the record that you just said, Rihanna, you fucked
Speaker 1: up my thing. When you know I put it out
Speaker 1: there that I could have signed him and them six times. No,
Speaker 1: that's a fact. I've never heard this story to us.
Speaker 1: It's out there. Point at when I went to Eminem,
Speaker 1: we went we we was having dinn one day. He
Speaker 1: was like, yo, Joe Crack, you know I gave you
Speaker 1: my demo six times. I said, what this is? After
Speaker 1: he's the high Remember he didn't remember where before before,
Speaker 1: so the nigga turned a run. He was like, I
Speaker 1: gave it to you, and how can I be down?
Speaker 1: I gave it to you, Jack the Rapper, I gave
Speaker 1: it to you in that land. I gave it to
Speaker 1: you in Jersey when I was with the Outsiders, I
Speaker 1: gave it. He knew every time he gave me his demo,
Speaker 1: and I was like, Jesus Christ, I could have had him.
Speaker 1: And then but the record. I sat in the house
Speaker 1: for Salon Rey and Uh and he made Fuji Lave
Speaker 1: for me, Fi the Fuji la and then and I
Speaker 1: sat he made it for me in this living room
Speaker 1: and I was there with him for hours and then
Speaker 1: he was like, yo Joe. Like a week later, he
Speaker 1: was like, yo Joe, you um you want this record?
Speaker 1: And I was like, no, I'm good. He was like,
Speaker 1: you want this record. I was like, no, I'm good.
Speaker 1: And then it was Fuji law know my record was
Speaker 1: I got another one bigger than that. I'm gonna give.
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you because I have the same
Speaker 1: exact story. Track Masters was in the studio with me
Speaker 1: and they made no no that y'all man with y'all,
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, I told him I
Speaker 1: didn't even want it, but I was still, man, you
Speaker 1: probably wanted to vombit, you know, I was, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you my story. Yeah, she Scott started me. Our
Speaker 1: chemistry was like if I knew what I knew now,
Speaker 1: then I probably would have been the richest nigger in
Speaker 1: the world. Because I worked with Scott Storch five times.
Speaker 1: All five songs went number one in America. It's just
Speaker 1: the bottom line. Every time I sat down with the nigger,
Speaker 1: we made the number one. Right. If I knew that now,
Speaker 1: I would have had fifty songs with Scott at that time.
Speaker 1: I would have I would have another left. I would
Speaker 1: have been on the nigga, breathing on the nigga, like, Yo, Scott,
Speaker 1: let's do another one, you know, Scott, Let's do a
Speaker 1: nothing right. So I come and I make um uh
Speaker 1: um what is it um, Candy shot. I made that
Speaker 1: be do do do do do do do And then
Speaker 1: and he was going out where he was going out
Speaker 1: way with uh with with uh with with little Kim.
Speaker 1: So the way I make beats with with with with
Speaker 1: with with Scott's he could play whatever. So I would
Speaker 1: tell him boomping and pam boom boomping and pam. That's
Speaker 1: how I made mean back boom boom boom. And he
Speaker 1: just did whatever I said, like I could damn their
Speaker 1: beat box it and he played. So we made Candy
Speaker 1: shot the crazy ship is. I don't want my wife
Speaker 1: to uh to kill me. But we had little Kim
Speaker 1: up in there, moving him in there. We was doing
Speaker 1: the beat to this pitch. She was doing a little boom, Yo,
Speaker 1: he gotta be more Arabic. We gotta do yo. We
Speaker 1: got a little Kim up in there doing the Arabic
Speaker 1: dac ship. So then the nigga, I'm gonna keeping a
Speaker 1: buck with y'all nobody. I don't even know if I
Speaker 1: can keep it too much a buck. But what I
Speaker 1: can say is we did it. But that was right
Speaker 1: after lean back. It would have been your money gets head,
Speaker 1: and some of my niggas and my crew convinced me
Speaker 1: not to do it. It was like, you know, sound
Speaker 1: like me back, mother, you keep going with Scott starts.
Speaker 1: I should have been like, yeah, every time I would
Speaker 1: have his number one, my son do this one, and
Speaker 1: I picked the other ship. I know you've been searching
Speaker 1: for someone instead of that ship. So Scott might have
Speaker 1: called me, I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna keep it
Speaker 1: a buck. Scott called me maybe fifty times in a row.
Speaker 1: I had no beef for fifty seconds, so I had
Speaker 1: no beef for him at the time. You know that
Speaker 1: was my next question called me, let's just say forty times.
Speaker 1: You sure you don't want that beat? Everybody says they
Speaker 1: hit Joe fifty centers in the here right now. He
Speaker 1: wants to pay me whatever on earth for this ship.
Speaker 1: Are you sure, Joe? I won't give him the beat? Joe,
Speaker 1: this is your beat? Like he would not stop calling, like,
Speaker 1: are you sure, Joe? You don't want this ship. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't want Yo Joe like it was just O D.
Speaker 1: And I was like no, no, no, I'm good that
Speaker 1: ship was like number one in the universe after after
Speaker 1: it was you know he told you to him selling
Speaker 1: that he told you before he didn't give up the song.
Speaker 1: I told him, I ain't want it. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, My artist, I wish I would have signed,
Speaker 1: would have to be hands down for a rout like
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I can't tell you that. Forrell
Speaker 1: told me to sign him, but he said, could you
Speaker 1: shot my beats? This one of real story. I went
Speaker 1: to bring I went to bring him to see Nas.
Speaker 1: At the time, Me and No was mad cool like Nas.
Speaker 1: He didn't know how to roll like so he was.
Speaker 1: He did not have rolled the blood. I don't neither.
Speaker 1: I wrote the worst blunts in the world. But we're
Speaker 1: gonna smoke. Don't judge me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So not gonna be curved. I'm a little pregnant blunt ship,
Speaker 1: you know, uncircumcised ship, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: um so he asked me to um to shop it.
Speaker 1: So I went bring it to Naas and he made
Speaker 1: m oh baby you want me, Oh baby, you want me.
Speaker 1: I wanted that be so bad, he said. After you
Speaker 1: heard it, he said, y'all made it for NAS. I said, damn,
Speaker 1: I'm not a hater. He's my brother I brought into nas. Uh.
Speaker 1: He actually played it. Nas loved it in the studio.
Speaker 1: As soon as he left. I said, Yo, why your
Speaker 1: man shirts so tight? You know, I was discouraged skills.
Speaker 1: I was like, I know that, Like this wasn't like
Speaker 1: we made super dumb dope. We got to nor moons
Speaker 1: in the country, like this thing is doing way first.
Speaker 1: No friend ship, but he was the first one though,
Speaker 1: so yeah, so and that would be my that would
Speaker 1: be my um you know because again for Chad rob Walker,
Speaker 1: they never said sign me, but they said shop my beats.
Speaker 1: So to me, the same shot like you know me
Speaker 1: and you will fall from from the same tree where
Speaker 1: we helped a lot of people get recognition, getting the game,
Speaker 1: and all we wanted to TV to slept on my
Speaker 1: couch to meet with was college. But he also was
Speaker 1: yeah a little bit. What in New York City watched
Speaker 1: my drawers? I mean, I'm I was from at the time.
Speaker 1: Let me stop. That's my brother. That's true. He had
Speaker 1: little he's not doing that. He come on, my star
Speaker 1: that he's a good guy. Let's leave. Shows you the progression. Great,
Speaker 1: it's true, it's true. True, it's not just facing its
Speaker 1: yelling floor as he also general fat Joe's not cold.
Speaker 1: Sign it's nothing. He's my brother. He knows just you know,
Speaker 1: it's true. It's true. You got it all. Guys, got
Speaker 1: it all. See you said it you crazy. You gotta yo.
Speaker 1: If already don't like me anyways, come on, I don't think,
Speaker 1: but I'm just But he's my god brother. You know,
Speaker 1: we got a lot of piece of ship, piece of brothers.
Speaker 1: You got a lot of you got a lot of people.
Speaker 1: That got a lot of people because you like, you're
Speaker 1: not kind. It's like, but it's still family. Find that
Speaker 1: the you gotta find the the good in people. Neative.
Speaker 1: That's what my father used to say. My father to say,
Speaker 1: when you see people, see the good in them first,
Speaker 1: and then you see the bad. Yeah, you know I
Speaker 1: got her. Uncle. He lied. It's a lot like he's
Speaker 1: a pathological lying, Like like if this summer, he'll tell
Speaker 1: you it's winter. You know, like the Nigga just lying.
Speaker 1: Lots of friends like Nigga just gonna stop lying to
Speaker 1: the point of view like, yo, you cannot be serious
Speaker 1: about this, like you're lying like all of them. I
Speaker 1: gotta pull him to the side. But the new thing
Speaker 1: I don't I do with him because he's my he's
Speaker 1: my uncle, he's my blood. I love him, one of
Speaker 1: my favorite You know, now when he lies, I'll be like,
Speaker 1: you know where he's lying. No, I'll tell you in
Speaker 1: they face, in his face, he knows. My new ship
Speaker 1: is to really try to stop him from line is like,
Speaker 1: oh no, he's lying. We didn't go there. We just
Speaker 1: came from this. Nigga is lying, all right, And I
Speaker 1: love him. He's really my uncle. Don't look at him
Speaker 1: crazy because he really is my uncle. He's a fucking liar,
Speaker 1: but simple, let me ask you a question. You and
Speaker 1: he has so much great quality other than the line.
Speaker 1: So if he didn't lie all the time, be the
Speaker 1: best thing in the world. So that's the water show
Speaker 1: he pleased, no disrespect, Actually not, it's not water, Joe drink.
Speaker 1: So me and you we have a lot like the
Speaker 1: same thing with good people. We see the good people.
Speaker 1: We just want everybody to win. That we hope that
Speaker 1: when they do win, they don't forget where they came
Speaker 1: from and they will always be there for us. And
Speaker 1: so like he's so nor so full of ship bro
Speaker 1: Nori goes. He says, I come to my podcast one day,
Speaker 1: A Nori, I mean he comes in the studio last night,
Speaker 1: stops the studio right and starts playing music and starts
Speaker 1: telling everybody how his best friend in the world. But
Speaker 1: I'm the worst nigger to ask for first in his life.
Speaker 1: But he's subliminally left the track there through the battery
Speaker 1: in my back to where it's day. Guess what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna being, So listen, listen again. I know I said
Speaker 1: it earlier, but I feel like we should praise praise
Speaker 1: people while they're here. Joe has always been there for me,
Speaker 1: just for people that know I'm to when I'm to
Speaker 1: the worst of the worst, the best of the best
Speaker 1: in between. You know what I'm saying. And I say
Speaker 1: that I say that too, like I remember like like
Speaker 1: like job, job is my brother. But it was rough
Speaker 1: being a job. Rule remember from at one point, I
Speaker 1: remember walking with jar Roll in the mall and people
Speaker 1: going you and running though but this is before Twitter,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like right now, people people
Speaker 1: would do it like this. But I remember one time,
Speaker 1: like we were hanging out and I was like, I
Speaker 1: was going to the mall. He was like, well, I
Speaker 1: can't doing ship, but mind you, he's the biggest. Like
Speaker 1: I'm okay, I can't walk around right, I'm okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: why didn't give you a ba? And then it was
Speaker 1: like I'll go with you, Like I know he's whatever.
Speaker 1: He's fifty number one hit, but fifty is killing him
Speaker 1: on the streets and in the radio. He's the biggest
Speaker 1: thing and alive. So we walk into the mall and
Speaker 1: I'm chilling. You know, it's nothing. This is my brother.
Speaker 1: I ain't thinking nothing of it. I just heard you
Speaker 1: bet and I'm like the first time. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna act like I ain't hear that one. You feel me,
Speaker 1: because I'm like, you do that for me, So just
Speaker 1: keep walking. This is my homie. That keep I heard
Speaker 1: it again. Now this time this is Whens come down.
Speaker 1: You know, you know when that one pieces Ruin's doing,
Speaker 1: he just kept walling. He ignored the first one too.
Speaker 1: We both ignored the first one. Kept it moving. But
Speaker 1: the second one was like and you can tell it
Speaker 1: was like a white boy. He was just a fan
Speaker 1: and just wanted to say, let's just say just let's
Speaker 1: just say my point is I you supposed to. Now,
Speaker 1: let's let's just say that's what real friends do, and
Speaker 1: this business is built on fake friends. So let's just
Speaker 1: keep it a thousand. So they say the real recognize
Speaker 1: the real. The truth is we gotta flip that around
Speaker 1: and say the fake recognized the fake, because if you're
Speaker 1: real in this industry, then it's almost like you got aids.
Speaker 1: There ain't no realness in this ship. Just know that, right,
Speaker 1: So we celebrate the real. But it's hard because if
Speaker 1: you analyze the ship they'll be going on, you can't
Speaker 1: make no sense of it. Right, So let's just say
Speaker 1: DMX probably had it the worst hold on DMX. Probably
Speaker 1: DMX has demons. DMX has been using and abusing drugs.
Speaker 1: He almost died, supposed to he almost died. Do you
Speaker 1: know he almost died? Last week? I sent the pastor
Speaker 1: to us all spool I was. You said, I passed
Speaker 1: it to his hospital. You send the passage to his hospital.
Speaker 1: That's like a whole other podcast. By itself, because you
Speaker 1: know what, I wanna be honest with you. You know
Speaker 1: what can say? You know what you say. It's a fact.
Speaker 1: Who's a pause. Let me tell you I was I
Speaker 1: was spoken with with DMX one night, four o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning. First of all, I gotta record from when
Speaker 1: he was ten million, when he was ten million, I
Speaker 1: gotta reckor with DMN. I can't say I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: listening coming no more. I know I'm gonna get in
Speaker 1: trouble and all the blogs I'm fucking with y'all. I'm
Speaker 1: not y'all get it all out. Listen to one time.
Speaker 1: This is one. I said, ya, gotta you got, you
Speaker 1: gotta hit my DMAX story. Now I gotta. I gotta
Speaker 1: hold long, yo, Joe. This nick is sold ten million.
Speaker 1: At the time, he was his managers Ali Ali is
Speaker 1: my flat. Ali went on tour with me. He did everything.
Speaker 1: This is my ball. But Ali used to sell rims
Speaker 1: and queens. That's how we know him from back in
Speaker 1: the day. He used to work queens and that Muslim
Speaker 1: militia many family, So check it. I'm one death game.
Speaker 1: So I called death Jam and I said, Yo, I
Speaker 1: need you have to book my flight, um to go
Speaker 1: see DMX. I'm gonna fly on Monday and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: return on Wednesday. So Tina Davis, who is Chris Brown's manager,
Speaker 1: Tina Davis called me and says, nobody does the record
Speaker 1: with the dog Daddy easy for mind you. I see
Speaker 1: DMX in River Park towers four o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 1: Nigga is up go infrigerators. You know, were towers in
Speaker 1: the Bronx. By the way, this is not Queens. I
Speaker 1: got family and cousin, Damon and Lea. Do you understand
Speaker 1: how if that sounds when a fuckingfrigerator drops and these
Speaker 1: niggas is just standing around. This is what they do
Speaker 1: for fun, right, The MX come through there at four
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning. I see Nigga's gonna try bottom line, No,
Speaker 1: that's not happening. I'm gonna die just to make sure
Speaker 1: he's good. Me and X is good. He got sold
Speaker 1: Tim Mayne at this time. This is the hottest thing
Speaker 1: in the world. So I say I'm going to l A.
Speaker 1: It's the first thing of the Drop two albums. This
Speaker 1: is this is this first week like disgusting ship he
Speaker 1: was doing. I told you about that met the man too.
Speaker 1: I told you, I've been trying to school my son
Speaker 1: about them. So look, ship boy, So I told Jim
Speaker 1: David said to me, who is christ Brown manager? Now?
Speaker 1: I think or used to. But she says to me,
Speaker 1: nobody flies into l A on Monday, records with DMX
Speaker 1: on Tuesday, and it flies out on Wednesday, Nori. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm Nori. I'm like, I'm like, you crazy man.
Speaker 1: She was right, hold my, hold on, wait till I
Speaker 1: go with this. I didn't even see this nig until
Speaker 1: Thursday at Oh, we're in the same hotel. We both
Speaker 1: got the president who sweeps in the w and Westwood.
Speaker 1: He got the he got the two door one. I
Speaker 1: got the other one with the one door. Right, I
Speaker 1: don't even see this nig right your next door, to
Speaker 1: this next store, to this nigger. Al Right, this naga
Speaker 1: knocks on my door four o'clock in the morning, Thursday morning,
Speaker 1: four o'clock, which means that's seven am, New York time.
Speaker 1: Knock on my door. But your dogs, you're ready, dog?
Speaker 1: So I'm like, ship, hell, yeah, ready, I know what
Speaker 1: this is. Sing record too. It's not like a Norriy
Speaker 1: Records seeing then this is this is the hood, the hood.
Speaker 1: I gotta get this ship done. He didn't knock on
Speaker 1: compone door. He knocked on my door. So, yo, let
Speaker 1: me tell you what you Nory was already platinum, yes,
Speaker 1: but yeah, but I had to get the job. This
Speaker 1: is this is what your man had to do. Listen
Speaker 1: what I had to do. The nigga walks works me up,
Speaker 1: We go downstairs, got six cars downstairs. Four days later,
Speaker 1: so I got this is this is this four days
Speaker 1: it's Thursday. I flew out Monday and see the nigga
Speaker 1: to Thursday. At four o'clock in the morning, which it's
Speaker 1: technically Friday, the niggas six cars is downstairs. I'll tell
Speaker 1: my niggas where your wake up, bring the car out.
Speaker 1: My car comes out. He's like, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you're driving with me. Something I heard about this nigga
Speaker 1: with just driving ship. Fucking slime. This is what you
Speaker 1: gotta do. This is what you gotta do, right, this
Speaker 1: is what you shut the funk up. Yo. If anybody
Speaker 1: ever went stayed at the W Hotel in Westwood, we
Speaker 1: drove six cars, right plus my two from the W
Speaker 1: Westwood all the way around right to Ralph's parkingt line,
Speaker 1: which like we could have walked there. So he went
Speaker 1: around the old just to go to right across the
Speaker 1: street the park. But he's a drive right. He wants
Speaker 1: to drive there. He doesn't want to walk there, so
Speaker 1: we pull out God goes you like cars. I'm like,
Speaker 1: he pulls out like seven thousand dollars worth, like the
Speaker 1: real expensive control cars. So I'm like, ship, but what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. I don't want to do this. I
Speaker 1: need this verse. So I'm sitting there with the moking
Speaker 1: cars after like I hate the Moki So I'm like, cool,
Speaker 1: I did it. Boom. He just drives off. It's so over.
Speaker 1: Never see him again, right boom. The next day he
Speaker 1: hits me, let's go. NOI I'm like, it's gonna happen,
Speaker 1: mind you, devil Jam's calling me every day we got
Speaker 1: the session locked out, three thousand dollars a day for
Speaker 1: Monday definitely has like yo. I'm like, now I can't,
Speaker 1: but I don't want to tell them they were right.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, chier, chip, just chick, just chill. Ship.
Speaker 1: This motherfucker's like, yo, let's go, let's go. He took
Speaker 1: me to Dublins. Now I didn't. I didn't know at
Speaker 1: the time Dublins was a fucking pool hall. All right,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking Dublins might be the studio he was going
Speaker 1: to buy. You've never seen the studio playing three racks.
Speaker 1: Every day we went, he goes to pool, the second
Speaker 1: favorite thing I hate in life. I don't play fucking pool.
Speaker 1: Playing pool. I'm sitting there acting like I like pool again.
Speaker 1: Fucking Sunday morning, we're just hanging out. I still don't
Speaker 1: get the verse, but he's hanging with me. I know
Speaker 1: he's not this and me. Some random dude just walks
Speaker 1: on the street was like, y'all do your Max was like,
Speaker 1: what dog is that? I got a studio right here?
Speaker 1: He said, you're Norri. Look at that. We got a
Speaker 1: guy with the studio Ida down, y'all gotta do it.
Speaker 1: He just loved your colleg He's just like, yes, Joe,
Speaker 1: excuse you know. He met somebody off the fucking random
Speaker 1: and we're gonna use this studio like the dog. He's like, you,
Speaker 1: that's what you've been looking for, right, I said, Dog,
Speaker 1: I had the studio book since Monday. We're going there.
Speaker 1: You know, here's the crazy ship. The nigga started laying
Speaker 1: his verse. He's killing it. Me and Paul looking at
Speaker 1: each other like we got it. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: the music is just dead right, and nobody's in the
Speaker 1: studio saying nothing. So we're sitting I'm sitting around, you
Speaker 1: know me, I'm like, I'm a control freak. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I can't help it. So I'm like, yo, yo, what's up?
Speaker 1: Like everybody's did. I'm saying that I'll open this ship.
Speaker 1: This nig is laid out, not out, yo. Everybody's like, yo,
Speaker 1: nobody wakes, nobody fox with the dog while sleep. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. I just paid this loot nigga too paid. Listen.
Speaker 1: I paid the whole week and I just paid the
Speaker 1: nigga because I'm like, he's like, y'all do it for
Speaker 1: you for for him, Like now he fell out and
Speaker 1: need all my file? How many how many? Boss? He
Speaker 1: was like he was like six and a half. Damn
Speaker 1: damn that you know. I mean, that was but let
Speaker 1: me tell you, let me tell you real quick. The nigga.
Speaker 1: We are Jimmy's cafe. The nigga DMX come up in there.
Speaker 1: He sees Tony Sunshine and the nigga had like a
Speaker 1: love fest. Oh my god, Sunshine, I love you. I'm
Speaker 1: nig doing he's doing all that ship. So we're in
Speaker 1: the bathroom. We're in the bathroom, in the bathroom, Jimmy's cafe, Jimmy, Oh,
Speaker 1: I gotta work with you, y'all. The ship, y'all, y'all,
Speaker 1: nor me, I gotta work with you, same ship. Right.
Speaker 1: So this is DMX exactly what you're talking about. Nigga
Speaker 1: was selling a million records a week. Nigga like at
Speaker 1: of this world me you know Tony sound I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, great, Like, let's work like you know
Speaker 1: what you want to do. I fly Tony to l
Speaker 1: a ok. I gotta hear this story. Same exactly ship,
Speaker 1: Tony hanging out with the nigga. In fact, I think
Speaker 1: I took I sent Tony and Macho Tony and Macho
Speaker 1: to get it done. And you know, Macho really trying
Speaker 1: to get it done. Is like, y'all, he ain't happy,
Speaker 1: he don't like nothing. So the nigga calling me back
Speaker 1: every day, he's like, y'all being this nigga got us
Speaker 1: on the front of that this, this, this, this the
Speaker 1: nigga Tony Sunshine, they find the least same ship. I
Speaker 1: think that was his gimmick. A week later, nigga got them.
Speaker 1: Niggas was in that lane. Like a week later, the
Speaker 1: nigga Macho called me. He's like, yo, Crack, you ain't
Speaker 1: gonna be leave this ship. God, I said, what happened?
Speaker 1: He said, the nigga started rapping and went to sleep. No,
Speaker 1: I swear to God. And I was like, I was,
Speaker 1: I was like what he said, Yo, that nigga out,
Speaker 1: Like if the nigga hit him with a hammer and
Speaker 1: niggas was talking the same ship the dog, nobody waked
Speaker 1: the dog right now, I'm a nigga. I tried, alright.
Speaker 1: The scary thing about this story is that these stories
Speaker 1: is in music until you're not a bread maker. When
Speaker 1: you were bread making somebody like Rest in Peace, Whitney Houston.
Speaker 1: They was letting her get the way with because he
Speaker 1: just worked for them, and they're scared to tell him, like, Yo, chill,
Speaker 1: you're bugging out because check. Yeah, but I mean, but
Speaker 1: it's how good is your check if you're letting if
Speaker 1: you work for Fat Joe and you're letting him kill
Speaker 1: himself deteriorate himself and you're thinking about your check right now.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, all checks is
Speaker 1: gone when I'm gone, and it's an en neighboring. This
Speaker 1: ship is crazy and let me get back. Let me
Speaker 1: just tell you the reason why. Um, because my grandmother
Speaker 1: had passed away. And my grandmother passed away. A pastor
Speaker 1: he was out there, he was he was listen, this
Speaker 1: is a side, but the past he was like that.
Speaker 1: He was like the hip hop pastor. Like he was
Speaker 1: quoting versus that my grandmother's fucking funeral and like, you know,
Speaker 1: you don't have fun at the funeral. Like I'm looking up.
Speaker 1: He was quoting lines, hip hop lines. And I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I said, Yo, give me your number. I said, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need you. No, I told him I'm gonna
Speaker 1: need him for I was gonna put him on a
Speaker 1: drunk project. But then I thought about I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm way too negative, you know, the squeeze and something.
Speaker 1: I need this thing. But I help me because I
Speaker 1: could get the negga to talk some ship when where
Speaker 1: he's just chalking the ship. And so look, so now
Speaker 1: let me tell you, now, get shot at the one time.
Speaker 1: So look one time we're all in l A. We're
Speaker 1: smoking weed but don't drinking whatever. And in the middle
Speaker 1: of all that, DMX said, Yo, can your brothers doing favor?
Speaker 1: Can you put all that down and pray? And he
Speaker 1: want to do that? And he arrest you that to
Speaker 1: me every time I I don't you want to pray? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I think it. Maybe he hear it from somebody
Speaker 1: else shot him. This is one and you're my friend
Speaker 1: of me. Never speak about this. We ain't never speak
Speaker 1: about this is real. I love DMX. He knows I
Speaker 1: love him. So every time I said, we gotta pray, man,
Speaker 1: you know, he prays for me. Man, but I don't understand, Like, um,
Speaker 1: I don't you know. I don't get it. Man, He's
Speaker 1: a complicated dude, and it's like it's sad man because
Speaker 1: people really love him. Sometimes people love you and you
Speaker 1: deal with so many demons and depression, but they can't
Speaker 1: even affect you with like sometimes I'm having a shitty
Speaker 1: day and even if I'm fat, Joe and Nigga said, Yo,
Speaker 1: I love you. Your music is great. I still feel
Speaker 1: like ship. You know what I'm saying. So people gotta
Speaker 1: deal with their own things, their own way. Um, but
Speaker 1: when you got drugs involved, it's yeah, so we gotta
Speaker 1: just pray, we gotta. I had a pastor when I
Speaker 1: lived in the projects and ship and the nigga would
Speaker 1: always talk to me and then we just wild niggas
Speaker 1: and ship before rap music and all that. And the
Speaker 1: nigga would talk to me and pray all the time.
Speaker 1: He was also the uh work for housing that he
Speaker 1: was the sweep and you know, custodian nigga, right, so
Speaker 1: he would always talk to me and Joey, you know,
Speaker 1: you need to change your life and this and this
Speaker 1: and at and what was crazy is the time when
Speaker 1: I had got shot and I got shot maybe fifteen
Speaker 1: blocks from my my block, like I wasn't around my hood.
Speaker 1: But while I'm laying, you know what I'm saying, getting shot,
Speaker 1: laying the fucking pastor who used to work in my projects,
Speaker 1: as I'm running this ship like that, he's out there
Speaker 1: praying for me. Like the nigga literally is like I
Speaker 1: see him, Like I'm like, what the fund the pastor
Speaker 1: doing over here? Joey trying to come to God. You
Speaker 1: know I was out there praying, you know, I was
Speaker 1: out there praying, right so I'm like, yeah, Pastor. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm always been a respectful nigga and ship, so I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it passed the boom. So I remember one time, Um,
Speaker 1: the police were so mad at me. To this day,
Speaker 1: they're still mad, like because they couldn't catch me. So
Speaker 1: they were here, shots fired, fat nigger with red hoodie,
Speaker 1: you know, like they knew what was going on. They
Speaker 1: just couldn't pin it on the nig and they were
Speaker 1: just so fucking eat it right. So I'm in. One
Speaker 1: time we had some beef and were standing in front
Speaker 1: of the building that we strapped, I mean like super
Speaker 1: strapped right, We're ready to go down right, and we
Speaker 1: got no clue. We just talking about how we're gonna
Speaker 1: go over here and do our business whatever. So the
Speaker 1: pastor come over. You gotta see. He said, Yo. Joey said,
Speaker 1: don't look, don't act like you're talking to me. I said, Yo,
Speaker 1: what's south pastor? And we act like we talked. He
Speaker 1: was like, there's so many cops on both sides of
Speaker 1: this building there about the rush, y'all. This is the pastor.
Speaker 1: I don't even think he ain't supposed to do that,
Speaker 1: right when you in church supposed to do that. He's
Speaker 1: supposed to listen. If you want to relate to the community,
Speaker 1: you got to be a part of the community. You
Speaker 1: gotta be a bottle. Yo said, this nigga tells me right,
Speaker 1: So I'm like, word, He's like, yo, there there on
Speaker 1: that side and that side. So this nigga I was
Speaker 1: cool with. It's a real passing. This nigga I was
Speaker 1: cool with. Live on the first floor. I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: give him no props to give him say his name,
Speaker 1: but I'll tell niggas. It was like three of us
Speaker 1: had hammers. I was like, yo, and like the counter.
Speaker 1: Three nigga we booking and we're diving in Homeboys window. Nigga.
Speaker 1: So my nigga, we just said we went. We took off.
Speaker 1: We all jumped in the window, right, so we shut
Speaker 1: the window down. You hear the cops like one minute
Speaker 1: where they go because everybody else ran, but we got away.
Speaker 1: We at the hammers, but we under the window like
Speaker 1: a movie, like the windows over us and we're like
Speaker 1: and you hear these niggas. It was like t cops
Speaker 1: and both like how did these niggas get away? Right?
Speaker 1: They're bugging out there on both sides. So I ran
Speaker 1: around this building. They catched me on this side. They're
Speaker 1: bugging out, like how did niggas get away? Right? So
Speaker 1: we're sitting up there. My man's mom's her name was
Speaker 1: Cheeky Dina. I never forget. She came over to me.
Speaker 1: She was like, she sounds gangster, she said in Spanish.
Speaker 1: She told me in Spanish, but I'll tell you in English.
Speaker 1: She was like, you guys are bringing me eat to
Speaker 1: my house. Yo, smut yo, Like you're making my ship.
Speaker 1: HU should call the cover was like, please don't call
Speaker 1: it goss. You motherfucker's This was like, please don't say that.
Speaker 1: But we got away with it. We can never jump
Speaker 1: in the window him in the past to help me
Speaker 1: get away. That's right, clipping Howard how Daniels is is
Speaker 1: our pastor? That I said, absolutely, man, because you know
Speaker 1: what I believe in, what religion you believe for your religion?
Speaker 1: If you felt you were sending what he preferred into
Speaker 1: he was saying you what you're saying. He he prayed
Speaker 1: for me like this Source Awards weekend in l A.
Speaker 1: When we was on that ship, like nigga work, like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like I'm from New York.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna leave with my jury, Like that's
Speaker 1: my world. That's that's that's that's how I felt at
Speaker 1: that time. So my mind frame, he's also he also
Speaker 1: saved me, like when we landed, when we landed, Yeah,
Speaker 1: when we landed, we've seen Eve and all this ship
Speaker 1: like so we're out there and we've seen like bitches
Speaker 1: like you know, like wrap bitches, and they funk with me.
Speaker 1: I got to you know, I got that record out
Speaker 1: that super Dog was killing them. So I'm thinking, is love?
Speaker 1: It's not love. I think that d Mexican came to
Speaker 1: my man. This is one of the percent real story.
Speaker 1: He said, the dogs gotta watch the dog. So if
Speaker 1: the dogs is what the dogs, then the dogs ain't
Speaker 1: gonna month trying the dog. So if the dogs always
Speaker 1: around the dogs, the dogs stay with the dogs and
Speaker 1: the dog can never come around by itself. The nigga
Speaker 1: as my people's five. So as he walked away, I'm
Speaker 1: like this nigga certified crazy. My man from the box
Speaker 1: um Ronald joining is his real name, is my brother.
Speaker 1: He said, I understood everything I said what he said.
Speaker 1: He said, he said, look nor like the Rappers the
Speaker 1: target make and then me and Poem Poem rented Jag,
Speaker 1: I rented the porch and then we rented like a
Speaker 1: fifteen passenger van to stay behind us, feel me. So
Speaker 1: the dog said, make sure the dogs is always around
Speaker 1: the dog. Don't never let the dog come out by itself,
Speaker 1: which meanings, don't let the nigga walk by something like
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, like nor's a real nigga. Poem is
Speaker 1: a real nigga. But they got jury on. That's what
Speaker 1: it's going to attract to them, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like I was like wow when I deciphered it, I
Speaker 1: was like, this nigga is mad smart, like he's super smarter.
Speaker 1: Then they give him credit for. Then with people give
Speaker 1: him credit for like you know what I'm saying and
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Speaker 1: Champs Radio with Rapper and R and d Jes. Then,
Speaker 1: first of all, I want to thank you man, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Hey, yo man, this was a
Speaker 1: long podcast. Yeah yeah, no, no, no longer because but
Speaker 1: you already say you're not coming back. You gotta call
Speaker 1: this ship like the Bible with some ships like chapters
Speaker 1: of the let's go here for back to you before
Speaker 1: you bounce. I got something personal. This is personal ship.
Speaker 1: So you know, as Latinos, we grew up and we
Speaker 1: we grasped it, like we said, Luis got you. We're
Speaker 1: grasping onto that as Latinos so and then as Latinos,
Speaker 1: then we sub grasp I'm Cuban, I'm Puerto Rican, I'm Dominican.
Speaker 1: Then we're trying to find those cats in the game.
Speaker 1: So you pot but then I find out, let me
Speaker 1: find out, I'm Cuban. Factios have Cuban. You should have
Speaker 1: known that from day one. No. I knew that early on,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't representing the music. I was like, really,
Speaker 1: I don't know how to represent Cuban in the music.
Speaker 1: So so what's the story behind that? Is my question?
Speaker 1: Because the only way I'll break it all down to you,
Speaker 1: right um, the only way to break it down to
Speaker 1: you is if we did Cuban, we would have to
Speaker 1: do come on, everybody want you to do that, come
Speaker 1: come on, like that's what it would be. My nigga.
Speaker 1: So it's like, but is there a reason, like is it?
Speaker 1: Is it? Like? No, your family is really when you
Speaker 1: grew up, what happened is my father's Cuban, my mother's
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican. My Cuban side of my family was from Miami,
Speaker 1: was from like jer they was Jersey then they moved
Speaker 1: to Miami. So I grew up with the Puerto Ricans mostly,
Speaker 1: like really with the Puerto Ricans, with my mother, my
Speaker 1: father and everything. But I never denied that I was
Speaker 1: Cuban in any way, shape or form. But I screamed
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico so loud that Cubans didn't see it. But
Speaker 1: if you go back to when I came out and
Speaker 1: you read, hey there's a new rapper on the set.
Speaker 1: He's Puerto Rican and Cuban from day one, know not
Speaker 1: go catch it the internet somebody like for example Killer
Speaker 1: like Curious George when he said I'm half Castro, half whatever,
Speaker 1: like he said it in a line and I didn't
Speaker 1: know what he meant. No, I knew it because I'm Cuban.
Speaker 1: And when it was saying Cuban Spanish like they was
Speaker 1: hill Cuba, yes, and I thought there was Mexican. I
Speaker 1: thought he was originally from the same hood and I'm
Speaker 1: originally from l A so, but when they were speaking
Speaker 1: Spanish and they had that song, I forget the Latin
Speaker 1: link and there wasn't that legal the other record on
Speaker 1: the on their album, they were saying sing guy and
Speaker 1: this and that, and it was like, you're Cuban, like
Speaker 1: we knew it as Cubans. I'm like the Mexican they killed,
Speaker 1: breaking news. I just found out that the Cuban Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was Mexican. Was was Cuba brother dog and then
Speaker 1: be real, I think he's half Cuban half Mexican. I think, well,
Speaker 1: me personally, I get a little I'm glad we had
Speaker 1: this conversation, but I get slightly offended because I know
Speaker 1: I've been representing the Cubans since even even some me
Speaker 1: and you had I've been representing Cuban since day one.
Speaker 1: So my thing is, well, document meant it like if
Speaker 1: you go back to my interviews from day one to
Speaker 1: be like, fa the Cuban mother Puerto Rican, right, But
Speaker 1: I did grow up with my Puerto Rican side more
Speaker 1: um uh so I always wrapped Cuban. I have brothers
Speaker 1: and sisters from Cuba. I brought back nine brothers and
Speaker 1: sisters from Cuba over here. Um, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: even know how to think. While they were there, I
Speaker 1: was supporting them, building homes for them, thinking so they
Speaker 1: can live, like you can't keep it. Really, to me,
Speaker 1: my father's Cuban. The worst kind of Cuban you can have.
Speaker 1: Like he'll argue with you politically for ten hours, like
Speaker 1: you know my family. So you know, I always bugged
Speaker 1: out when I bumped into a Cuban and they was
Speaker 1: telling me like, yo, I ain't know you was Cuban.
Speaker 1: I was like, so you I see that early on.
Speaker 1: I was like, you ain't paying attention. You ain't paying attention,
Speaker 1: Maybe not when you said it originally. Nine, So let's
Speaker 1: just say so you know you meant like why we
Speaker 1: didn't say Cuban so called Cuban link, right, but Cuban link.
Speaker 1: He wanted to wrap humans And you don't really want
Speaker 1: to hear that. You really didn't want to hear. Come on,
Speaker 1: everybody want to do that. Come if we want to
Speaker 1: let that nigga go, If we wouldn't let that nigga
Speaker 1: go either, throwing the g like you my nigga, we
Speaker 1: te squad soft throng killing niggas like stop. He really
Speaker 1: wanted to be the first pit bull to be honest
Speaker 1: with you. He wanted to thought with the shirt. He
Speaker 1: wanted to do that bad and we was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: my nigga, we killed I remember me, and pun used
Speaker 1: to argue with this thing, Yo, what the funk you're doing?
Speaker 1: What is this? But you know we can't. We made
Speaker 1: music for everybody, so you gotta you gotta know that
Speaker 1: we make music for everybody. So hip hop itself is
Speaker 1: a subculture, a sub religion, right. I don't really get
Speaker 1: offended when white people say, nigga, that's a hip hop fan.
Speaker 1: I really don't, cause they're white niggas, but because hip
Speaker 1: hop is one you know what is like a religion.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like, you know, a motherfucker, you gotta
Speaker 1: to be Spanish, you gotta be black, you gotta be white,
Speaker 1: you gotta be Chinese, you gotta be I just feel like,
Speaker 1: be proud of who you are, rep who you are,
Speaker 1: but make music for everybody. And that's some of the
Speaker 1: problems we've had with Latino rappers. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like me personally, I don't know how they ain't more
Speaker 1: successful Latino rappers because we put the blueprint out there.
Speaker 1: We've been from the beginning. No, no, no, hip hop
Speaker 1: is not black. Music is black and Latino music originally
Speaker 1: from the beginning day one. No not, that's not the discussion.
Speaker 1: I'm saying Fat Joe Big pun. No, we put the
Speaker 1: blueprints like, of course cypress, but I'm saying cypress. So
Speaker 1: what I'm saying there, we took the blueprint right, like
Speaker 1: just keep it real. But it's out there. So what's
Speaker 1: the excuse is sip and says they're performing for white people.
Speaker 1: Black people. Try how can I kill a man? But
Speaker 1: the nigga want to come. I ain't want to make
Speaker 1: straight Latino music. I sit down, especially West Coast Latino
Speaker 1: rappers whenever I sat down with them and I have
Speaker 1: one on one with them, because I always want to
Speaker 1: give nigga's knowledge. I sit down, be like, Yo, Poppy,
Speaker 1: I know you Mexican. We want you to wrap Mexican,
Speaker 1: but make music for everybody. Nah, but you gotta be
Speaker 1: the biggest nigga. I mean, I think if there was
Speaker 1: a fly, handsome Mexican nigga spitting that ship, just spitting
Speaker 1: that ship. Black girls, white girls, everything would fucking love
Speaker 1: this nigger. You understand what I'm saying. So it couldn't.
Speaker 1: It shouldn't be a barrier. You shouldn't. You shouldn't enclose
Speaker 1: yourself to a certain category. And that's how you know.
Speaker 1: I always approached the game and me also, I came
Speaker 1: from a neighborhood there was ninety nine point nine black.
Speaker 1: So it's so imagine if you see a pack of
Speaker 1: black lions or black panthers in the in the jungle
Speaker 1: and this nigga non stop calling broke. You see a
Speaker 1: pack of black panthers and you see one white panther
Speaker 1: with them. That was always sad Jaw, the only Spanish
Speaker 1: white nigga with blonde hair with five hundred black niggas
Speaker 1: just walking through. And he was the only for the weekend.
Speaker 1: And I was the only queen's dude in the Bronx.
Speaker 1: That's true. People used to be like, why are you here?
Speaker 1: Why not? I used to like, why are you sure
Speaker 1: you okay? I'm I'm just tendent, Like what the fun
Speaker 1: was he doing? Now? But now that's just the way.
Speaker 1: That's the way I was raised. So I was raised
Speaker 1: in the community where it was all black, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And so um it was like, you know,
Speaker 1: like I consider myself black too. Like as weird as
Speaker 1: it sounds, I'm proud to be Lapino. I waived the
Speaker 1: worried about it. You know what I'm saying. I'm serious,
Speaker 1: like I'm black. It's weird because I tell black people
Speaker 1: that all the time and they'll be like, yo, what
Speaker 1: do you mean, Like Nika, I'm black nigger. Like what you,
Speaker 1: I'm blacker than you because you want to be a
Speaker 1: black white guy. I'm standing this black nigga. You understand
Speaker 1: what I'm up. Hell yeah, Harvard black nigga, nigger. I'm
Speaker 1: black nigga. To me, I had it worse because like
Speaker 1: I would hang out with the with the with the
Speaker 1: black people. Then I would go with the bato Ricans
Speaker 1: and they go to the money, and then I had
Speaker 1: to go to Then I gotta go with the black
Speaker 1: people and they got the spects and it was like
Speaker 1: and you in the middle, in the middle, like I'm no, no,
Speaker 1: I want to tell your story. The land King's right,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm jan in jail right. The Latin kids,
Speaker 1: they they they doing some ship for the dentists. Right,
Speaker 1: I'm in jail right. What they're doing for the dentists
Speaker 1: know that what they're doing, No, they're fucking they're recruited
Speaker 1: every Spanish person in the unit. But what they're doing
Speaker 1: is saying that you got to go to the dentist
Speaker 1: in jail. Right. So these dudes come and they're like,
Speaker 1: Victor Santiago. So I stand up for the people who
Speaker 1: don't know that's that's my name, super all right. So
Speaker 1: I stood up and the dudes like, not you, at you,
Speaker 1: so stat back down. Then they go Victor Santiago and
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, I'm not gonna keep standing up. And
Speaker 1: then they're like but not you, not you right time?
Speaker 1: Like but this, I'm like, yo, I'm not standing up again,
Speaker 1: and like your victorsn't young. That's my name. So like
Speaker 1: the guard, the CEO, Nigga was down with the he
Speaker 1: was a Latin kings king. So they pulled me in.
Speaker 1: The dentists put all razors to me like yo, you Cuban.
Speaker 1: I'm like no, you're like Dominican. I'm like no, You're like, well,
Speaker 1: what the funk are you? Why the fund is your name?
Speaker 1: Victor Santiago. So I'm like yo, I'm for the weekend
Speaker 1: in black. They're like, damn, you can't really be down
Speaker 1: with us, they said, but they got the razors to me.
Speaker 1: I can't do nothing. They actually set me up where
Speaker 1: like you know what you're sitting and didn't move, kid move.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, they said, so this is what we're
Speaker 1: gonna do. We're gonna make you at neat. I had
Speaker 1: never heard they said we're gonna make you a net
Speaker 1: because they think they see my sheet. My sheet was clean.
Speaker 1: But I'm trapped. It's nothing I can do. It doesn't
Speaker 1: matter what you get out of it. So they're like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna make you a net. And I said, Yo,
Speaker 1: my dude, I'm that new truth. People like I'm both,
Speaker 1: I can't listen. I go to the yard. I love handball.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm nice. Beat me in handball. No, I
Speaker 1: never hated that. You never never handball. And in his
Speaker 1: death was like, yo, I had to get my rematch.
Speaker 1: Like when he died, I was like, yo, I'm needed
Speaker 1: my rematch. Like you know, Fat Niggas is the best
Speaker 1: niggers in handball. I don't know if you know that
Speaker 1: Edy gigs in fact, and he's great in me and
Speaker 1: you will play handball. We got serious at one point,
Speaker 1: came out of jail and they said, Yo, we gotta
Speaker 1: play handball, and we went somewhere out here. People don't
Speaker 1: know this about me. I'm actually I thought I was
Speaker 1: a handball expert until, like anybody that's like, like Pun
Speaker 1: beat me in the handball, I never, like, I never
Speaker 1: actually forgave him superhuman even in death, I'm like, I
Speaker 1: still need like like a god bless because you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully ill, you know whatever. But when we see each
Speaker 1: other that happen, That's probably the first thing I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say to him. Rematch him? How it's gonna go? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love you? How's it having rematch? Immediately? I want to, like,
Speaker 1: all right, so listen that being said, we all we
Speaker 1: all Latin knows. I want to end it on who's
Speaker 1: your favorite Latino besides Pun, besides Nori, besides Joe because
Speaker 1: it would be unfair. So my favorite Latino? Who hit me? Good?
Speaker 1: Fross favorite? When I heard this is you thought he
Speaker 1: was dope different. I'm sorry. Pick up the school Devil.
Speaker 1: His school Devil is a legendary, but that was Scoop
Speaker 1: de Ville was my favorite. I knew Kid Fross since
Speaker 1: I started. He was on relativity to get out of here,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I couldn't rules and I couldn't. Really you
Speaker 1: didn't get what kid from now because he was like
Speaker 1: I met the real kid Frost and I was just
Speaker 1: like different person. We don't know this story. He was
Speaker 1: trying to let you go, but now you gotta you
Speaker 1: already it's already wet, you gotta go. I couldn't do that.
Speaker 1: But all I can say is that back to the
Speaker 1: West Coast, they looking ship different than we look at it.
Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying I'm hanging out with.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just say you the miniature version of it
Speaker 1: because I wouldn't do that. But he comes to New York,
Speaker 1: so I'm like, Yo, I gotta salute the Mexican homies
Speaker 1: is So I take me Jimmy's cafe and we walked
Speaker 1: down the block all all you know, as we're walking out,
Speaker 1: everybody like, yo, crack with something, Yo crack, what's up?
Speaker 1: What's up? So up? So I'm walking up, dapping everybody
Speaker 1: and we walked like half a block. He sist, Yo, Joe,
Speaker 1: can they talk to you? Homes not kid for us
Speaker 1: I'm where him. I got him in New York. Feeding
Speaker 1: him will be chilling, brothers. I'm doing any funk with
Speaker 1: the black guys. Yeah, that's the that's the problem. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm like what he's like, No, man, I see you
Speaker 1: talking to all these guys. I'm bucking out. I'm like, Yo,
Speaker 1: no nigger. And that was a once in a life.
Speaker 1: You know, we hung out one time. He probably over
Speaker 1: there saying funk fat joe Yango with the black guys.
Speaker 1: I couldn't, you know, but you know I couldn't. Spanish dudes.
Speaker 1: They influence me, Um, not influence you or even just
Speaker 1: you think that it's it's hard or hot. The hardest
Speaker 1: niggas ever, the hardest niggas ever. Um. Somebody who impressed me,
Speaker 1: can I say to ye? And I always say him.
Speaker 1: But somebody who impressed me at a young age who
Speaker 1: was a fly nigger was Tito from the Feelers Fall
Speaker 1: and the rumors I used to hear about him when
Speaker 1: I was a young kid, was like he was getting money.
Speaker 1: He was a flying nigga fucking all the bad bitches
Speaker 1: and the feelis fo was you know, an amazing rap crew.
Speaker 1: He's somebody I looked up to even to this day
Speaker 1: when I see him, might be like, yo, we gotta
Speaker 1: make noise for Joe being super hip hop on his
Speaker 1: first pick. Some of these people like what the fun
Speaker 1: is the fearless think it's Tito from the Feelers fall
Speaker 1: like he used a fly nigger your real hip hopper.
Speaker 1: Just you just really showed the world. Now you are
Speaker 1: because Googles and who Google? And I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: a secret. Right when we were shooting the video John
Speaker 1: Blaze in queens Um, we were shooting in John Blades,
Speaker 1: I was there. It was in Brooklyn green Point, so
Speaker 1: it was Pun's birth This and me and Nas is beefing.
Speaker 1: Do you remember? This was beefing and you called me
Speaker 1: to scotch the beef for Nas. Do you remember that?
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm in with nas verse plays. I'm
Speaker 1: the only person that's in the verse with Nas because
Speaker 1: I think I hung out with Cormega some bullshit. So
Speaker 1: he goes like to getting Nas. He's a special guy too,
Speaker 1: So no, he's a special guy. So and me and
Speaker 1: I stopped talking and you called me and it was
Speaker 1: like that's your brother, Um, so we should we turned
Speaker 1: around and this is real ship, right, Yeah, now we're
Speaker 1: gave him too much rel So this is Teeto from
Speaker 1: the Feelers Fall. Came out of nowhere to the video,
Speaker 1: and he had a cake. He knew it was Pun's birthday.
Speaker 1: He never met punt. Was this John Blake. So he
Speaker 1: comes in the trailer and he gets it. He brings
Speaker 1: out a cake and the nigga pulls out a bunch
Speaker 1: of hundred dollar bills and put them like candles on
Speaker 1: the cake. This Tito feelis he wasn't even a rapper
Speaker 1: no more like you know, he was beyond crazy. Still
Speaker 1: give money through up the hun're doing. By the way,
Speaker 1: it's still still getting money, right. Man. Turned around and
Speaker 1: I'm explaining the punt of what it is, and it's Teeto.
Speaker 1: He's the rich, didn't even really know him. So I
Speaker 1: go like this your pinties like the niggative first nigga,
Speaker 1: this this dad flies Spanish nigging teetot up all the
Speaker 1: fucking hundred dollar bills and pump blew it out. We
Speaker 1: ate the cake. Tito's a stand up guy, man, he's
Speaker 1: a beautiful person. She said too. And I gotta give
Speaker 1: it to Cypress Hills because both gave me to the
Speaker 1: West Coast. I'm sorry I didn't know kid for us
Speaker 1: to think about. But I'm still as Cuban and anyway,
Speaker 1: kids music and it representing the Ross. I love me
Speaker 1: because because you know why, you know I actually understand it.
Speaker 1: I did. I did a movie. It's a horror flick
Speaker 1: called Seven Mommies. I don't recommend you see it. Crash.
Speaker 1: I did questions, questions, the question He the first two
Speaker 1: videos I ever shot in my life. He shot it
Speaker 1: so you felt loyal. Was so he told me to
Speaker 1: come to Arizona. I did, Uh. Noel g from training
Speaker 1: Jade training day. No no, don't say no more niggas
Speaker 1: the mommy nig fucked up. It was fun. I ain't fun.
Speaker 1: And then then they killed me. I played the black
Speaker 1: guy in the Hart. My favorite role is paid for
Speaker 1: when he comes over to the car. You know, I
Speaker 1: freest out that home man. That's the legend Gerry wrong.
Speaker 1: I was like, you're Samuel Jackson moment, but yeah, actually
Speaker 1: we'll go there. We'll go there. So look, so Noel
Speaker 1: Noel G me and him got mad cool like I'm
Speaker 1: talking about like he hung out my trailer. I hung
Speaker 1: out his trailer and he's from East. Um, I'm would
Speaker 1: say East New York, East l A. So I flew
Speaker 1: to l A one time. I was like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to go to your hood. He was like he
Speaker 1: had to keep it real with me. He was like, nah,
Speaker 1: that come over. You know, I go any hood, Joe,
Speaker 1: East New York. Pink houses. I don't give a funk.
Speaker 1: But when the person that's supposed to bring you there
Speaker 1: says they gotta have you, nah, they like they can
Speaker 1: hold you. They said your skin color, he said, I've
Speaker 1: seen them killed Mexicans. That skin is darker than yours.
Speaker 1: That's what he said. You know that's prison politics, but
Speaker 1: a prison politics run. I'm not in the black community
Speaker 1: all over the community. So um that that sucked me
Speaker 1: up when I realized that for me, but paid it
Speaker 1: for To get back to that, I actually audition for
Speaker 1: alcohol and I didn't get it. Wood Harris, who um
Speaker 1: was the person I spoke to and paid it for.
Speaker 1: Who played hazy with Harris. He came to me and
Speaker 1: he and he tried to prep me for the audition role.
Speaker 1: And when he prepped me for the audition, Um, I
Speaker 1: took it too serious. You know, I got I got
Speaker 1: a real actor sitting there telling me what to do,
Speaker 1: what to do, and I tried to do it to Actually,
Speaker 1: I did eight movies. I never got any movie from audition.
Speaker 1: I I'm say, you got to got it. If I'm
Speaker 1: saying I got it, I'm in front of the camera,
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm back on that. If you just say,
Speaker 1: y'all want fat Joe in this movie, I'm great. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do I'm gonna kill it. I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1: But I never read my lines like I read them.
Speaker 1: I memorize them because I'm God body like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I memorize them and did not
Speaker 1: change them. Because the thing about God body, if you,
Speaker 1: if you really realize it, after you master your one twenty,
Speaker 1: you gotta master your plus degrees. So to me, that's
Speaker 1: what always what hip hop was to me, it was
Speaker 1: a plus degree. It was is this five percent? We
Speaker 1: went from you just at first everything, I'm leaving every coach.
Speaker 1: You know, it's too it's too late for me to
Speaker 1: go emphatically, no sightful, you can't do it in today's
Speaker 1: master I'm from God's Ville. Yeah, that's they called your
Speaker 1: hood gods Ville. They called my God City, they called
Speaker 1: my hut waship because from Kenda from Kid Yeah he wasn't.
Speaker 1: The two niggas snuck down there. They there but Cypress
Speaker 1: Hills because they did it big. And remember when I
Speaker 1: first saw them, I thought they was from New York
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh damn. They shot the video
Speaker 1: New York and the Cuban cub in the video from
Speaker 1: the video was that killing killing They shot at front
Speaker 1: and everything that everybody. Everybody was discussing that are they
Speaker 1: from New York? Are they from? Where? Then? Are they from?
Speaker 1: The niggas like like that, and they was in the
Speaker 1: hole Cypress Hill, you were killing queens. Yeah no, no,
Speaker 1: no tips in that video too. I think my nigga,
Speaker 1: I thought them niggas was from New York. But I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna tell you I looked up to them because
Speaker 1: they was from New York. I'm just telling you, I
Speaker 1: want to get high. So the niggas was right, and
Speaker 1: I don't even get highly niggas was rocking my nigga
Speaker 1: like like like, I ain't even gonna lie to this day,
Speaker 1: I probably look up to Cypress Hill still because I
Speaker 1: just feel like they really put it down the way
Speaker 1: I like it to be put down and still no,
Speaker 1: all these ships to this day, No, you gotta say
Speaker 1: yours and you're gonna wrap it up. In terms of
Speaker 1: Latino raph I mean yeah, well Cypre's Hill is definitely
Speaker 1: for sure and punk, hands down punk. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: we're gonna end this on this well part of the
Speaker 1: best Latino rapper ever lived. I'll tell you right the
Speaker 1: bottom real quick. When when I heard when I heard
Speaker 1: him on Firewater, Firewater, that was me. It was me
Speaker 1: getting and OK, that's the first put that on mixtape,
Speaker 1: my mixtape, no mixtape. Let me tell you, nobody had
Speaker 1: ever heard anything I put on the mixtape here in Miami,
Speaker 1: and I was like, this dude is fucking killing it.
Speaker 1: I didn't know who he was, I just but then
Speaker 1: I knew. I knew he was Latino. I was like,
Speaker 1: we got one. That's it, that's it because be just
Speaker 1: so you know. At that same time, Big El is
Speaker 1: my favorite rapper, digging in the Crazy Crew. That's my
Speaker 1: brother too. My other favorite rap was a member of
Speaker 1: two crews with the greatest rappers the old time. That's
Speaker 1: my favorite. We know it's got that. That's where I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is it. Yeah, we got him, yea. I really
Speaker 1: it's just almost like chins chins angelists send him in evangelists. Good.
Speaker 1: I knew Punning was great. I didn't know he was
Speaker 1: the greatest until like after after his funeral. I remember
Speaker 1: me standing there and crying at the and God bless
Speaker 1: ther Dad flex flex Ts was the one who came
Speaker 1: and grabbed me because I didn't know what to do.
Speaker 1: Like I still started crying. My mother came to the
Speaker 1: keeper real without me. My mom said, my mom's didn't
Speaker 1: wait for me to come. Mother within man from the
Speaker 1: boat danger like crazy. It was so crazy because the
Speaker 1: people who came to that funeral, you know, it was
Speaker 1: like crazy man like. It was like people that from
Speaker 1: our community that never even talk to us. Was you know,
Speaker 1: they were so proud they were showing up. And he
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, that's just my school teacher, you know.
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there crying and I walked by my
Speaker 1: school teacher come and grab me and like, yo, be strong.
Speaker 1: This is that like we touched so many niggas in thathood.
Speaker 1: It was crazy, but it was like that too. I
Speaker 1: never forget too. I was at one point I was
Speaker 1: at point funeral and I was crying and uh, it
Speaker 1: was John Rule And I looked up and it was
Speaker 1: John Rule. He was there one dep too. He was like,
Speaker 1: be strong, crack, don't where we be strong. And that ship,
Speaker 1: that Punch ship was serious man. And this is what
Speaker 1: I remember Flex grabbing me and just was like you
Speaker 1: he's not suffering no more the crazy y. I've never
Speaker 1: seen Pun suffer like when Pun. I never said, I
Speaker 1: know we can we're going too much, but we're gonna
Speaker 1: stop it soon. But when Pun used to have sleep apana,
Speaker 1: like when he used to go like this, I used
Speaker 1: to think Punt was playing with me, like God bless
Speaker 1: me because you know now I know. But back in
Speaker 1: nice like damn, my fucking stories is borried people to
Speaker 1: like Yo, we would be talking like it was good.
Speaker 1: I'm like, let's just get Pun love Nori and Uh
Speaker 1: in a different way, in a special way. And the
Speaker 1: niggers used to hang out. They used to chill. We're
Speaker 1: still boy Joe. That's when Joe said, because Joe was
Speaker 1: always militant, like he's always he's to get money, dude,
Speaker 1: Like that's all he thinks about me and Pun, we
Speaker 1: wanted to have fun. We was younger. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Joe's al g it's a fact because we
Speaker 1: used to be on the road everything like and punning
Speaker 1: smoked weed. He drank cause like you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like just like just started drinking, like really like you
Speaker 1: just started lesually drinking like so serious. He was like
Speaker 1: like every day, like I'll tell my son this to us,
Speaker 1: said listen, bro we was born with nothing, my nigked
Speaker 1: and if we get the opportunity to go get it,
Speaker 1: let's not stop, Nigga. Let's just go get it. And
Speaker 1: we can't make it. We gotta go get this fucking money, man,
Speaker 1: because all the times we dreamed about getting money, all
Speaker 1: the times all we wanted was money. Niggas wouldn't give
Speaker 1: us a fucking ice cream. You know, we're starving. We
Speaker 1: get Nigga's got a chip in for four chicken wings
Speaker 1: and French fries. Now Nigga's just throwing this money at us,
Speaker 1: Like what the fund is we supposed to do? Let's
Speaker 1: go get this fucking money. And and and and and
Speaker 1: that's that's that. That's That's what I'm about. Right now,
Speaker 1: I'm in the car with my sun rap. I'm in
Speaker 1: the car one am. I balked on him two minutes
Speaker 1: before I came here because he was like, yo, engine,
Speaker 1: ain't really doing it right there, Like nigga, you're fucking crazy,
Speaker 1: Like I'll be rapping in closets. We're gonna end this.
Speaker 1: Back in the days, you couldn't send them email. You
Speaker 1: had to run around with two tapes like this. That
Speaker 1: that ship was like carrying a mitchet. Ye real, let
Speaker 1: me tell you something I've never been to and this
Speaker 1: is my engineer right here. Hasn't it sounds prod something grand?
Speaker 1: But has I have never had a session with you
Speaker 1: unless I did four records? Keep it real, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: look away so like I'm not even you know, fine
Speaker 1: in my lying at least four at least at least
Speaker 1: four because you know why, it's not because but back then,
Speaker 1: spending fifteen hundred dollars on the lockout or three thousand
Speaker 1: dollars on the lockout, I had to do yo one
Speaker 1: on this ship. I'm keeping it real. Seeing then War
Speaker 1: Report album was done over two years, but it was
Speaker 1: only like five to seven sessions because we recorded eight
Speaker 1: nine records when we went in there and you know,
Speaker 1: tragedy put us on here when you had this wave
Speaker 1: man in your waves, like you know, special waves. But
Speaker 1: what it was, y'all nigga man, you could do whatever
Speaker 1: you wanted, nor nor you you're funny nigger. And then
Speaker 1: it's like it's like it's like maybe he was bugging out,
Speaker 1: but to us it was like flows we never heard, right.
Speaker 1: The thing is, I'm not you know what the fuck is?
Speaker 1: This thing is saying this ship? You know what that
Speaker 1: came from? What was the joint you did? Um? And
Speaker 1: we gotta go with what was the joint you did?
Speaker 1: I think it was in the firm. You know this?
Speaker 1: You know that was leaving. I'm leaving. I'm leaving. I
Speaker 1: can get the story of that. And then we break out.
Speaker 1: But listen, it goes that it's that one, Mike, h No,
Speaker 1: we know this. We know that's the first because I'm
Speaker 1: leave the first. Yeah. And it was another one you
Speaker 1: did for nas right was it was a mob de
Speaker 1: it was blood money, blood money, money, the money, the
Speaker 1: one when we did that during the Firm album. Um,
Speaker 1: the Funnies ship. I'm not gonna lie to you from
Speaker 1: the outside, And I don't know if you know go
Speaker 1: ahead tell me you was like the ellest nigger right there,
Speaker 1: like like right there when they snatched you up, because
Speaker 1: there was a big move for you and I no,
Speaker 1: I had just shot nigger the projects too, and it
Speaker 1: was like and I kept hanging out there. They was like,
Speaker 1: what this thing is? When left Cracker left Brackers money
Speaker 1: twenty minutes and I kept hanging out and I gotta
Speaker 1: I gotta give them love. The Jungle. Jungle was the
Speaker 1: dude like. Jungle was like, we're fucking want him. We
Speaker 1: went to shoot up. You know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is when they recruited you and you
Speaker 1: was just like it was so ill. I was just
Speaker 1: like and you know, and you know from them. My
Speaker 1: very first feature, my very first feature after that was
Speaker 1: the Pun the Record, My very first feature after that.
Speaker 1: I mean, um, you know Punt's first words he ever
Speaker 1: said to me what he said? Because I was in
Speaker 1: a session the first this is the first words you
Speaker 1: ever said to me? You said, this is the first
Speaker 1: words you ever said to me. You said, y'all cnn huh.
Speaker 1: He walked this unique studio, unique studios, think of walks
Speaker 1: in and then Pun wasn't he goes, y'all see in
Speaker 1: the huh. I'm like, you said, which one of your
Speaker 1: niggas got shot? And then Palm raised his hand and
Speaker 1: then y'all start up hearing gunshot rooms and ship. I
Speaker 1: was like, this is very awkward. Home shows this ship
Speaker 1: then and then he goes which one of y'all's Puerto
Speaker 1: Weekend and I raised my hand and this is this
Speaker 1: is one hundred same facts. I was just like, because
Speaker 1: I've never met this nis. I love this nigger, but
Speaker 1: I don't want him to think I'm a sucker. He
Speaker 1: just walked in my studios, especially Blue told to walk
Speaker 1: over right, buck Wild is doing the beat maybe be
Speaker 1: buck Wild, and then Punk goes to me. He goes, yo,
Speaker 1: you brought the Rican and I go yeah. He goes,
Speaker 1: so wipe the ice creall off, blah blah, because we're
Speaker 1: gonna be friends. And from that moment, you know, the
Speaker 1: nigga made me laugh. I was racist from that moment
Speaker 1: and it was some of the best people I've ever met. Man, Joe,
Speaker 1: I really appreciate you. You have never left me. You know,
Speaker 1: You've always been there for me. The guard Ray Kwan,
Speaker 1: but just is his birthday, happy birthday, my brother. But
Speaker 1: Ray Kwan the chef before you leave, telling me friends
Speaker 1: top three friends and him never you don't sneakers. They
Speaker 1: jerked me, so I have he called me first. I
Speaker 1: was out of time. I said, now I'm gonna get him,
Speaker 1: and I never got him, but I really needed one.
Speaker 1: You got one? Are you gonna give me one? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I know? Before what can I say something? So I'm
Speaker 1: an underground wrapper. I'm with digging in the craze. I'm
Speaker 1: like on my first second out. I'm on my first album.
Speaker 1: I came out the same time as Woo Tank and
Speaker 1: I remember I was getting like three hundred show. I
Speaker 1: ain't know how they made money because it was fifteen niggas, right,
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm like, damn, I started counting thirteen niggas
Speaker 1: and ship he niggas must have got fifteen dollars, like
Speaker 1: like ship fuck up right? And then um, I remember
Speaker 1: who just super Blue and I wasn't big yet, and
Speaker 1: I remember I would any time I would call Ray
Speaker 1: Kuan and this nigg is like four platinum, I'll be like,
Speaker 1: you're way I need you. On the song to Night
Speaker 1: like fire Water. Ten minutes later, that nigger was in there.
Speaker 1: No funny staff kept the ten thousand with me. I
Speaker 1: remember one time I was in ray don't even remember this, Yeah,
Speaker 1: y'all don't remember this, but I was in Statnland. I
Speaker 1: had to show. I remember we had the studios, that
Speaker 1: we got the studio and that, but no, one time
Speaker 1: I had a show in the hood early on and
Speaker 1: I got into some ship with the with with the
Speaker 1: Statnlan niggas like it was about to pop off crazy
Speaker 1: like yo funk, y'all talking about nigga nick is ready
Speaker 1: to pop off, and the guard ray Quorn, was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: it's my motherfucking brother man. That ship ain't going down here.
Speaker 1: Shut let's talking. That would change niggas calmed down that
Speaker 1: that ship ain't going down here, nigger. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But it was like you know, um so
Speaker 1: like Nori, I'm I'm gonna say top five because I
Speaker 1: got friends. You know what I'm saying. But I got
Speaker 1: you top five brothers, my brothers that I love. There's
Speaker 1: always kept it real with me. Top five friends. You
Speaker 1: and ray Kuannas in my top five friends brothers, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like not love you, not rapping,
Speaker 1: nothing to do with that, just like you're my brothers.
Speaker 1: You could call me at any time, Ray called me
Speaker 1: at any time. It is what it is. If we
Speaker 1: never wrapped and we knew each other from the block,
Speaker 1: we would still be brothers. So you know, Ray kuannas
Speaker 1: in that category. And trust me, it ain't too many
Speaker 1: niggas in that category, not for me, neither not for me.
Speaker 1: Thank you, man. I always count on you, man Um.
Speaker 1: I want to say one more story. I like your
Speaker 1: T shirt. Oh yeah, I like it a lot. This
Speaker 1: is hip hop. What you try to stunt on me
Speaker 1: with what hold on, I've never seen those those Listen.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter because he'll never give me his n't
Speaker 1: give me everything else in the world, but the sneaker
Speaker 1: connect doesn't happen. Fat Joe, thank you for joining Dream
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