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Speaker 1: hell you're not saying that every day is New Year's

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Speaker 1: But now we got two legends in the two legends.

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Speaker 1: Were only doing legends, Noggen, Come on here, No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: chat podcast. Okay, who do we happen to build it?

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Speaker 1: Fat Joe? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, what's up y'all? What's going on? Brothers?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? What's going on? My brother? Last night,

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Speaker 1: I got a chance to be in your studio session

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Speaker 1: and you and Remy ma actually done album. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: crazy though, Now I'm good. Nah, you're humble. I don't

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Speaker 1: have to be humble for you. I'm hold up people

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Speaker 1: like us. We weren't there. So when you down together,

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Speaker 1: what do you mean by that it was a complete

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Speaker 1: album together? Or executive produce her? You know me and

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Speaker 1: huh back and forth? Wow, sh crazy. I was amazed,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Because I heard Remy's mixtape.

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't think that was Remy mall. Like.

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Speaker 1: What I mean by that is I didn't I didn't

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Speaker 1: think she felt comfortable with the mixtape, Like you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But when I came over from jail

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Speaker 1: six years right, and um, everybody and their money, everybody

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Speaker 1: and their mother ran at her. And you know, she

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Speaker 1: had certain loyalties to, like certain producers that she'd been

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Speaker 1: working with for years, so everybody was running out and

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Speaker 1: she was just like, all right, hy So this is

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Speaker 1: how I don't think she really even knew what was hot.

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Speaker 1: So what's crazy was you know, we all know it's

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Speaker 1: rapping is like riding a bike, like you know, we

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Speaker 1: know she nice and ship. She just gotta get in

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Speaker 1: pocket and make and be produced, right, so you know

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Speaker 1: that mixtape? Let me talk right there. Do you feel

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Speaker 1: like you kind of even though you probably didn't touch

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Speaker 1: lean Back had babies. That's what I felt like. It

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Speaker 1: just New York City, but that's what the whole album

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Speaker 1: felt like. It felt like Yeah, like if so, I

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Speaker 1: it's all ship it's all and she sounds. So what

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Speaker 1: happened was I was on the couch when she gave

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Speaker 1: me to go ahead. You know, usually, how did this happen?

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Speaker 1: How did the talk happen? Y'all doing well? Me and her?

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Speaker 1: just brother and sister ship and then um, she told me.

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Speaker 1: She came home like the female Tupac. Let's just keep it, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and what I always say is people like fat Joe

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Speaker 1: Like I'm looking at the crowd, she's rocking, I'm looking

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Speaker 1: She's like, yo, man, it is different. Man, like these

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Speaker 1: It's different when I stand with you. I said, so

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Speaker 1: get to it. She's like all right. So then I

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Speaker 1: to just to kill me, but like a jay Z,

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Speaker 1: that ship was like that ship was like number one

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Speaker 1: You know, you know me and you're my brother, and

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Speaker 1: he called me to Puerto Rican puff Daddy, this nigg

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Speaker 1: problem is we come from a different era, right, and

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Speaker 1: we got fat Joe Remy fans. But yeah, instead, we

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Speaker 1: picking my bookers, picking my bookers. We don't want to

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Speaker 1: that a DJ. Right now it feels like Joe Crack

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Speaker 1: Remy mall, but we could turn that bit up and

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Speaker 1: fucking rolesque k O D. Right now. That's hard, like

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Speaker 1: So it's almost I had to become a chemist. So

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Speaker 1: Continuing story, sir, Well, I was in Georgia's diner last

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Speaker 1: So the long story short, I wanted it to be perfect.

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Speaker 1: So I'm telling Remy, Yo, come to Miami, come of studio,

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Speaker 1: come on, let's rock out. So she got a husband now,

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Speaker 1: she and my little sister, you know, back of the bus.

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Speaker 1: She could just leave. She got a fucking family husband.

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Speaker 1: you two days. He's like, the ship you bring out

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Speaker 1: of her? The ship, y'all niggas get from each other.

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Speaker 1: was crazy, and you know we did. We did her

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Speaker 1: musically the whole project in New York City. No. I

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Speaker 1: going to the different clubs and what what did you

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Speaker 1: get out of that? Did you get? So I got

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Speaker 1: what I got you needed? Yes, I did, and got

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Speaker 1: a lot of literate shit um of the universe of

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Speaker 1: what's going on? What did that bring to the project

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Speaker 1: that brought the single singles called all the Way Up?

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Speaker 1: So what happened was I was featuring or yeah, keeping

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Speaker 1: that featuring in French Montana. My single off Drunk Uncle

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Speaker 1: is also featuring in French Montanna. So New Yorker just

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Speaker 1: shout out. Come on Produce is produced by exclusive young,

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Speaker 1: Z was also from apartment five What does that mean? Project?

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Speaker 1: know Ray Kawan's brother. He once hogs. Happy Birthday, Happy Birthday.

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Speaker 1: He said, I didn't seen it. Go okay, okay, excuse me.

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Speaker 1: he's some con. But maybe we didn't deserve that. We

421
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 1: gonna started royalty committee. We ever got to start something.

422
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,719
Speaker 1: So now let's get back to the sneaker thing. Because

423
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like you, my brother, right,

424
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: You've always been, if I have to say, one of

425
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: the best people, why ever man in my life at

426
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 1: Joe's the smart guy. Now went to blow some noise

427
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: to that. I feel like I feel like whatever connect

428
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: you ever had, I'm always liberty at liberty to that,

429
00:25:53,320 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 1: except you're sneaker connect. Never y Joe for MS, He'll

430
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: give you his oozy man you know. But you know

431
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: every time you get up here, I just always watched

432
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 1: his feet. I'm like, he's advance. You have Michael Jordan's

433
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: number on speed down? Is this is what happens. I

434
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 1: don't have Michael Jordan's number on speed now, but uh,

435
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: because I feel like you'd be cheating. You got your

436
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: connect is a cheating connect. But I deserve it because

437
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: I've been committed to the ship forever. Before it was

438
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: cool to be a sneakerhead, I was a sneakerhead, you

439
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So they know I'm not a

440
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: sneaker had like, you know, I gotta give it the

441
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: college you college can't is a guy named Mayor. I

442
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: don't know. While hasn't made my mathematics yet, he's my guy. God.

443
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: You know, he's a god. He has his own sneaker

444
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: at Nike correct, Yeah, I think so. Yeah, he has

445
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 1: a cop he's uh, you know he put it down legends.

446
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 1: You know, somebody offered you their own sneaker. Did you

447
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: have like a step On Marbury sneak? Yeah, we did

448
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,439
Speaker 1: want for the community, very cheap, you know, give it

449
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 1: to the kid. But now Kanye is killing them. If

450
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: you would have your own sneak, a lie, like, what

451
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: would you do it? It would be the hottest ship

452
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: in the world. What we inspire to be? Who would

453
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: you pick? I mean, I mean, I wouldn't say it

454
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: because it's very smart. Man, so bad you're always doing sneaking?

455
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: Can he'll tell me everything? Welcome to play a new

456
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: podcast network featuring radio and TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment,

457
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 1: and more. Play it at play dot It. We're back

458
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: to Drink Champs Radio with Rapper and R and d J. Then,

459
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: so now let's just let's just we mind on everything.

460
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: Probably the most fun I've ever had traveling was when

461
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: Tras was hot. M hmm. Everybody's getting scared. It's pretty great. Yeah,

462
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: everybody's everybody's scared any days was awesome. I can't talk

463
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: about that. I didn't say you go talking about it.

464
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: I didn't even ask the question. It was just a

465
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: state miss. It was just but Tras is played out?

466
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: That is that bad? Is that good for the community?

467
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: What do you mean? Tris is played out? People don't

468
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: want to trust for the community, I believe. So everybody

469
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: makes a noise for tri being dead. I'm gonna tell

470
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: you when I got can see you, I'll tell you what.

471
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: I stopped running track my personal story right I had

472
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: I had to. I always had to write that was cool.

473
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: But then one day I had three right, So I

474
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I'll bust like nuts and they

475
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: still want it more. I felt defeated. Oh you felt defeated.

476
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: I felt defeated. All right, Well, what's different? You confusing both?

477
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: The tris means like Nigga is running the train on

478
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: a bit like one broad Managis is always just style, okay.

479
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: Nag is always just stound, and you're tested as a

480
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: man because one thing I noticed about women is that

481
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: they can never have enough if you do it right now,

482
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: not you can never have enough. You can never like

483
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: they can never really tell you realistically and from the

484
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: bottom of their heart. You know, I'm tired. I quit.

485
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: They gonna keep going forever a couple of but that

486
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: day I feel like the man they go from. They

487
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: go from like y'all they want to get pleased. Actually,

488
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: now this ship has worked. This niggas fucking me seven hours.

489
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: I'm working like I mean salary for this ship right here.

490
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: So tras is the trains Mina's are different thing. It's

491
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: always a beautiful. I'm gonna get your story one time.

492
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: I never put this out this footage. I actually have

493
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: it on footage. One Jesus Tony sunshine, big fun. This

494
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: is how that's how, that's how you know a big

495
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: Pun was one of the greatest individuals in life. Pup

496
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: Daddy pays me for a little Jerome. Remember a little

497
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: Jerome back in the days. Well a little Jerome had

498
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: did a blood money be so pup that he never

499
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: pays good. But he pays but never pays good, but

500
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,479
Speaker 1: he pays. It's great. Pop hits me, says, I need

501
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: you to do this. Put a room. So I'm like,

502
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: all right, cool, but like it's all one feet because

503
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: you know, I was like, I'll do that for the

504
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: song and then for the video. He's like, no, it's

505
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: not how, it's not how Puff Daddy, it's all one

506
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: feet Daddy, like a black jew gotta do you gotta

507
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: do it. You gotta do it because daddy and never

508
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: going front of Punt. You gonna go to his house

509
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: for New Year. That makes up for every dance for everything.

510
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: So bupa hits me and go all right. So now

511
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: I'm shooting a little Jamma video. This is the carbon.

512
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: You remember the car. I remember carn got puffed at

513
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: the carbon. So Pun says, yo cool, Nori. Let's tell

514
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: Nori to come over here. So now Pun got fucked

515
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: up earlier. Today, Puppa's like, make sure you're on time, please, Nori.

516
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: We don't have this kid, don't got a budget. Pun

517
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: makes called me. He goes, Yo, come over to the

518
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: carbon where you Actually, I said, you sure you want

519
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: me to leave your video? Then Puppa's like parting with

520
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: the slick and shooting my video and we just we

521
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: just told him to leave. So I said, your punt,

522
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: come over here. Punk comes over here. He brings Tony

523
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: Sunshine and I forget what other two dudes, but I

524
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: have it on camera one hundred percent. Remember I used

525
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: to run around the camera. He was ahead of time.

526
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: I was ahead of time. I was blogging before it

527
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: was called blog blogging was blocked. So fun coms and

528
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: these two chicks they see him. He's like yo, Asian

529
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: girl and a black girl. Right, So I got my

530
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: Bronx people with me, but I got my Queen's people.

531
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: They all know each other, all the like the hood

532
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: niggers like, they all know each other. So they're like, yo,

533
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: we go on the vands like get something just never kissed,

534
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: even just was gay nothing. It's on camera. I could

535
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: prove this they kissed somebody's wife, now moms or somebody. Yeah,

536
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: that's why I even to put the job, to put

537
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: the job right. So whatever. Then they had we had

538
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: a Queen's versus Bronx funk off, like whoever bust? What's

539
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: the loser? But why you We're all in the Van

540
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: Van and the fantastic, Yo, my dude, and like it's

541
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: like putting in that work. But were you right next

542
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: to you? So you shouldn't bust? Like it's just like yo,

543
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: you holding down. He's like, yeah, I got the whole

544
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: ship on film. So now it was a wonderful day.

545
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: It's a wonderful time. I don't know what pun yelled to, right,

546
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: but they went and they got the super Squirts right,

547
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: this is zero below degrees in New York City when

548
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 1: he got the lords gun up the Supersquirts. What does

549
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: New York City snow? I'm not I'm not talking about

550
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: the Freshno, I'm talking about the snow where you see

551
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: yellow ship in there and you see the black the

552
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: black ship and they put the snow from the Super

553
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: Squirted waited till it melted. The bitches, fuck the whole crew.

554
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: Why do we have to do anything. As soon as

555
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: they came up, they squirted the midsy have it a film,

556
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: and the bitches. This is back in the days. They

557
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: didn't even care they was last. They felt like, yo, yall,

558
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: there's the one of the wildest nights in my life.

559
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: This is a long time ago. It's very long ago.

560
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: Pun You don't pun uh. You know. I was the

561
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: only nig to control him, so he would be ducking

562
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 1: me and ship because this nigga niggas calling me the cops.

563
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,919
Speaker 1: Cops was like, you know some niggas that was cool,

564
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: and he was like, Yo, they're gonna lock that nigga,

565
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: pun Up. I'm like what they say. He's shooting the

566
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: old ladies coming out the supermarket with the super so

567
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: so they go, y'all were in the hole. He's the

568
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: only nigga with the six Honey great bands because we're

569
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: gonna come. He's shooting the old ladies with the ship

570
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: down the Soca and niggas like, yo, my nigga, he

571
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: gonna go to jail for this. He's gonna be on

572
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: the news. So I go over there. I gotta make

573
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: a movie. Scream at pun us loudest you can scream. Motherfuck.

574
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Nicker like the nigga is crazy. Man.

575
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: He was crazy. He was crazy. Rest in peace he was.

576
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 1: He was um, well you pun. It was my first

577
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: friends in hip hop. Damn. He was the first. That

578
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 1: was Sellouise Scott. I was so gass because the first

579
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: ship he said was Hellois Scott holding guns all met

580
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: me though, he was like, I'm not sure what I

581
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 1: got to tell him a story with me. I called him.

582
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: He was at the Puerto Rican Parade and I've seen

583
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: him this the first time, and I helped him up.

584
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: It was like thousands of niggas around me and helped

585
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 1: them up. I don't remember remembering Tsunamia. So I helped

586
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: the nigga up and I was like, Yo, what's up, nigga? Yo,

587
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: we funk with you, nigga. We was hight right and

588
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: then uh, but what he wants me to get that

589
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: is he always said he's Spanish, but he'd be with

590
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: black niggas and he looked black. So we never totally believed,

591
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So one day I met

592
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: Chicago and the nigga called me up. He's like, Yo,

593
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: you gotta show at how some blues. I said, yeah.

594
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: He said, Yo, my my family want to come to

595
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 1: the show. So I'm like, I ain't no question nor

596
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: stand at the hotel. I'm in the hotel to the

597
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: niggas meet me in the lobby. I meet him. Nigga

598
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: come over with the Guaya better some gray Road and

599
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 1: Nigga's like, hey, Jude, I am no brother. I'm like,

600
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: what is like? Bobby? I was like, what the fuck

601
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 1: is really? I might have called Nigga jod this nigga.

602
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: He wasn't frying. I'm looking at the port of niggas.

603
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: He's really the real Porto Ricans came in Chicago, right.

604
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: That was crazy. That was very funny, man, That was

605
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: very funny. That was crazy, my niggah. So so so

606
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: let me ask you something. Right, all the thing about

607
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: you is what people don't understand about you is you're

608
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: actually a lyricist m hm, Like you make party records.

609
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: But even in your party record, like I told us,

610
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: I said, Joe is one of my top friends of

611
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: all time, but when it comes time to do a

612
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 1: feature for me, he's like the worst less but not

613
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: because he's not gonna do it. Is he takes his

614
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: time with something like you actually do, Like I know

615
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: you never dissed me, Like you're my brother, Like you

616
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I eat in your crib, my

617
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: crib all the time with our families. You're my brother,

618
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: so it's not But you're like, do you think you're perfectionists?

619
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: Definitely a perfectionist with everything. Sometimes you know the way

620
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: ship move nowadays, Um, niggas get mad at how I

621
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: am because I like to roll it out right, you

622
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And that's key to a lot

623
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: of ship. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm right. Maybe I

624
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: ain't the smartest nigger, but I want to make sure

625
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: ship gets its bucked for his money. What everything we do,

626
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, um, with these young

627
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: kids i'm working with right now that the first niggas

628
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: I funk, within years they got fire and I'm still like, Yo,

629
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: we need more, we need more because you can't make

630
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: the first impression twice and then wrap wise. I ain't

631
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: gonna lie to you. No matter who I wrap with,

632
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: I try to take their head off. It's just a fact.

633
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: I gotta go in and you know, you invite me,

634
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: and it's very scared because fat jokers. People probably probably

635
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: don't think he's the best rapper in the world. But

636
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: hold on, I'm just saying. People probably don't think I'm

637
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: the best rapper in the world, but I'm like the

638
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: Mexican nigga. You don't want to fight in the Boston

639
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: ring because he's not going down. He's a hell of

640
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: a fight. Like he's one of the niggas that you

641
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: know you're scared to fight. You're scared to fight him

642
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: because you know he's gonna go You're gonna have to

643
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: kill his nigger in the ring, you know what I'm saying.

644
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: So that's how it is with raps, because when you

645
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: invite me to it, you know, and the worst nigger

646
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: was punned. You know what I'm saying. What problem was

647
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: going for nigga's heads? Man since pun died? Who was

648
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: like a person that you did a record with and

649
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 1: you was like, man, let me be on my best,

650
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: best best everybody everybody. I tell my son that, But

651
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 1: it's not like just one person. Everybody. Everybody. Every time

652
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: I go into booth, All right, let me tell you

653
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: a secret. I'll tell you in front of the whole

654
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: world that I never told nobody, the whole world listening

655
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: for the whole world listening. Goddamnit like that, Thank you

656
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: very much. Every night my whole career, every night I

657
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: got in the studio to this night. You know, I

658
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: never know if I'm gonna die when I leave the studio,

659
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: So when I do my work in the studio, I

660
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: go the hardest I could go in history when I

661
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: work on my music, because if I die, no, that's

662
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 1: the only thing that's gonna remind people for years and years,

663
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: twenty thirty years later that I put it down. Now,

664
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: if you want to say fat job, you want me

665
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: to tell you how I really feel. I feel like

666
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: I'm one of the most underrated rappers of all time.

667
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm been in the game this long

668
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 1: and I still make music. And every time, like every time,

669
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: I'm like a little kid waiting for his fall on Christmas.

670
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for niggas to finally give it up. And

671
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: they act like his luck. Then you've been in the

672
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: game for twenty years, they act like his luck that

673
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 1: you put out ten fifteen top number five records in

674
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: the world. So Villians, they act like this ship like

675
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: you know, he's just a lucky nigger. You understand what

676
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but it takes it takes, you know, dedication

677
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 1: to that. So like with this album with Remy, I'm

678
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: spitting my asshole and I'm like, maybe this time they're

679
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: finally listen to me, like, you know, because right now

680
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: it's a little different me. I'm a little older. You

681
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I'm a veteran. The young niggas

682
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: don't look at me as a threat no more. I'm

683
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: not saying physically, they just don't look at me. It's

684
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: like I'm their competition. So now they're able to say,

685
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: you're my nigga, we love your ship. You know, you're

686
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 1: a vat, You're funk with you nigga, you a legend.

687
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: Before it was more like they were scared to tell

688
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: me that because they felt like we were still competing.

689
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 1: The thing they don't know is that we really still competing.

690
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 1: I love that, love the album we got. We compete.

691
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: So on this album right here, I'm spitting my ass

692
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: off so that maybe just maybe niggas could look and

693
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: listen to this album and be like, oh this nigga crazy.

694
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: One more, what's the one record that a producer played

695
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: for you and you didn't fun with Oh you're crazy

696
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 1: and the record that you just said, Rihanna, you fucked

697
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: up my thing. When you know I put it out

698
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: there that I could have signed him and them six times. No,

699
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: that's a fact. I've never heard this story to us.

700
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: It's out there. Point at when I went to Eminem,

701
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: we went we we was having dinn one day. He

702
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: was like, yo, Joe Crack, you know I gave you

703
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: my demo six times. I said, what this is? After

704
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: he's the high Remember he didn't remember where before before,

705
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: so the nigga turned a run. He was like, I

706
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: gave it to you, and how can I be down?

707
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: I gave it to you, Jack the Rapper, I gave

708
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: it to you in that land. I gave it to

709
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: you in Jersey when I was with the Outsiders, I

710
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: gave it. He knew every time he gave me his demo,

711
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 1: and I was like, Jesus Christ, I could have had him.

712
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: And then but the record. I sat in the house

713
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: for Salon Rey and Uh and he made Fuji Lave

714
00:42:55,360 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: for me, Fi the Fuji la and then and I

715
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 1: sat he made it for me in this living room

716
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: and I was there with him for hours and then

717
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: he was like, yo Joe. Like a week later, he

718
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: was like, yo Joe, you um you want this record?

719
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: And I was like, no, I'm good. He was like,

720
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: you want this record. I was like, no, I'm good.

721
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: And then it was Fuji law know my record was

722
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: I got another one bigger than that. I'm gonna give.

723
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you because I have the same

724
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: exact story. Track Masters was in the studio with me

725
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 1: and they made no no that y'all man with y'all,

726
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, I told him I

727
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: didn't even want it, but I was still, man, you

728
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: probably wanted to vombit, you know, I was, I'm gonna

729
00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: tell you my story. Yeah, she Scott started me. Our

730
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: chemistry was like if I knew what I knew now,

731
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: then I probably would have been the richest nigger in

732
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: the world. Because I worked with Scott Storch five times.

733
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: All five songs went number one in America. It's just

734
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: the bottom line. Every time I sat down with the nigger,

735
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 1: we made the number one. Right. If I knew that now,

736
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: I would have had fifty songs with Scott at that time.

737
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,439
Speaker 1: I would have I would have another left. I would

738
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 1: have been on the nigga, breathing on the nigga, like, Yo, Scott,

739
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 1: let's do another one, you know, Scott, Let's do a

740
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: nothing right. So I come and I make um uh

741
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 1: um what is it um, Candy shot. I made that

742
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: be do do do do do do do And then

743
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: and he was going out where he was going out

744
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: way with uh with with uh with with little Kim.

745
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 1: So the way I make beats with with with with

746
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: with with Scott's he could play whatever. So I would

747
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: tell him boomping and pam boom boomping and pam. That's

748
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: how I made mean back boom boom boom. And he

749
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: just did whatever I said, like I could damn their

750
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: beat box it and he played. So we made Candy

751
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: shot the crazy ship is. I don't want my wife

752
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: to uh to kill me. But we had little Kim

753
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: up in there, moving him in there. We was doing

754
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 1: the beat to this pitch. She was doing a little boom, Yo,

755
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: he gotta be more Arabic. We gotta do yo. We

756
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: got a little Kim up in there doing the Arabic

757
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: dac ship. So then the nigga, I'm gonna keeping a

758
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: buck with y'all nobody. I don't even know if I

759
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: can keep it too much a buck. But what I

760
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: can say is we did it. But that was right

761
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: after lean back. It would have been your money gets head,

762
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: and some of my niggas and my crew convinced me

763
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: not to do it. It was like, you know, sound

764
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: like me back, mother, you keep going with Scott starts.

765
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: I should have been like, yeah, every time I would

766
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: have his number one, my son do this one, and

767
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: I picked the other ship. I know you've been searching

768
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: for someone instead of that ship. So Scott might have

769
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: called me, I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna keep it

770
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: a buck. Scott called me maybe fifty times in a row.

771
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: I had no beef for fifty seconds, so I had

772
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: no beef for him at the time. You know that

773
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 1: was my next question called me, let's just say forty times.

774
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: You sure you don't want that beat? Everybody says they

775
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: hit Joe fifty centers in the here right now. He

776
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: wants to pay me whatever on earth for this ship.

777
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 1: Are you sure, Joe? I won't give him the beat? Joe,

778
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: this is your beat? Like he would not stop calling, like,

779
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: are you sure, Joe? You don't want this ship. I'm like, no,

780
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: I don't want Yo Joe like it was just O D.

781
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: And I was like no, no, no, I'm good that

782
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: ship was like number one in the universe after after

783
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: it was you know he told you to him selling

784
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: that he told you before he didn't give up the song.

785
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: I told him, I ain't want it. You know what

786
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying, My artist, I wish I would have signed,

787
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 1: would have to be hands down for a rout like

788
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I can't tell you that. Forrell

789
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: told me to sign him, but he said, could you

790
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 1: shot my beats? This one of real story. I went

791
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: to bring I went to bring him to see Nas.

792
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: At the time, Me and No was mad cool like Nas.

793
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: He didn't know how to roll like so he was.

794
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 1: He did not have rolled the blood. I don't neither.

795
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: I wrote the worst blunts in the world. But we're

796
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: gonna smoke. Don't judge me, you know what I'm saying.

797
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: So not gonna be curved. I'm a little pregnant blunt ship,

798
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: you know, uncircumcised ship, you know what I mean. But

799
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: um so he asked me to um to shop it.

800
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: So I went bring it to Naas and he made

801
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: m oh baby you want me, Oh baby, you want me.

802
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: I wanted that be so bad, he said. After you

803
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 1: heard it, he said, y'all made it for NAS. I said, damn,

804
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm not a hater. He's my brother I brought into nas. Uh.

805
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: He actually played it. Nas loved it in the studio.

806
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 1: As soon as he left. I said, Yo, why your

807
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: man shirts so tight? You know, I was discouraged skills.

808
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 1: I was like, I know that, Like this wasn't like

809
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: we made super dumb dope. We got to nor moons

810
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: in the country, like this thing is doing way first.

811
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: No friend ship, but he was the first one though,

812
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: so yeah, so and that would be my that would

813
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: be my um you know because again for Chad rob Walker,

814
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: they never said sign me, but they said shop my beats.

815
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: So to me, the same shot like you know me

816
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: and you will fall from from the same tree where

817
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: we helped a lot of people get recognition, getting the game,

818
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: and all we wanted to TV to slept on my

819
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: couch to meet with was college. But he also was

820
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: yeah a little bit. What in New York City watched

821
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: my drawers? I mean, I'm I was from at the time.

822
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: Let me stop. That's my brother. That's true. He had

823
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: little he's not doing that. He come on, my star

824
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: that he's a good guy. Let's leave. Shows you the progression. Great,

825
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: it's true, it's true. True, it's not just facing its

826
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: yelling floor as he also general fat Joe's not cold.

827
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: Sign it's nothing. He's my brother. He knows just you know,

828
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: it's true. It's true. You got it all. Guys, got

829
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 1: it all. See you said it you crazy. You gotta yo.

830
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: If already don't like me anyways, come on, I don't think,

831
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: but I'm just But he's my god brother. You know,

832
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 1: we got a lot of piece of ship, piece of brothers.

833
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: You got a lot of you got a lot of people.

834
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: That got a lot of people because you like, you're

835
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: not kind. It's like, but it's still family. Find that

836
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: the you gotta find the the good in people. Neative.

837
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,439
Speaker 1: That's what my father used to say. My father to say,

838
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: when you see people, see the good in them first,

839
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: and then you see the bad. Yeah, you know I

840
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,919
Speaker 1: got her. Uncle. He lied. It's a lot like he's

841
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: a pathological lying, Like like if this summer, he'll tell

842
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: you it's winter. You know, like the Nigga just lying.

843
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: Lots of friends like Nigga just gonna stop lying to

844
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,240
Speaker 1: the point of view like, yo, you cannot be serious

845
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: about this, like you're lying like all of them. I

846
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: gotta pull him to the side. But the new thing

847
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 1: I don't I do with him because he's my he's

848
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: my uncle, he's my blood. I love him, one of

849
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: my favorite You know, now when he lies, I'll be like,

850
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 1: you know where he's lying. No, I'll tell you in

851
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: they face, in his face, he knows. My new ship

852
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: is to really try to stop him from line is like,

853
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: oh no, he's lying. We didn't go there. We just

854
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: came from this. Nigga is lying, all right, And I

855
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: love him. He's really my uncle. Don't look at him

856
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: crazy because he really is my uncle. He's a fucking liar,

857
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 1: but simple, let me ask you a question. You and

858
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: he has so much great quality other than the line.

859
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: So if he didn't lie all the time, be the

860
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: best thing in the world. So that's the water show

861
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: he pleased, no disrespect, Actually not, it's not water, Joe drink.

862
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: So me and you we have a lot like the

863
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: same thing with good people. We see the good people.

864
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: We just want everybody to win. That we hope that

865
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: when they do win, they don't forget where they came

866
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: from and they will always be there for us. And

867
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: so like he's so nor so full of ship bro

868
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: Nori goes. He says, I come to my podcast one day,

869
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: A Nori, I mean he comes in the studio last night,

870
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: stops the studio right and starts playing music and starts

871
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: telling everybody how his best friend in the world. But

872
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: I'm the worst nigger to ask for first in his life.

873
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 1: But he's subliminally left the track there through the battery

874
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 1: in my back to where it's day. Guess what I'm

875
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: gonna being, So listen, listen again. I know I said

876
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 1: it earlier, but I feel like we should praise praise

877
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: people while they're here. Joe has always been there for me,

878
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: just for people that know I'm to when I'm to

879
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: the worst of the worst, the best of the best

880
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: in between. You know what I'm saying. And I say

881
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: that I say that too, like I remember like like

882
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: like job, job is my brother. But it was rough

883
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: being a job. Rule remember from at one point, I

884
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: remember walking with jar Roll in the mall and people

885
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: going you and running though but this is before Twitter,

886
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like right now, people people

887
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 1: would do it like this. But I remember one time,

888
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: like we were hanging out and I was like, I

889
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: was going to the mall. He was like, well, I

890
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: can't doing ship, but mind you, he's the biggest. Like

891
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm okay, I can't walk around right, I'm okay, yeah,

892
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: why didn't give you a ba? And then it was

893
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: like I'll go with you, Like I know he's whatever.

894
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: He's fifty number one hit, but fifty is killing him

895
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: on the streets and in the radio. He's the biggest

896
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: thing and alive. So we walk into the mall and

897
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,959
Speaker 1: I'm chilling. You know, it's nothing. This is my brother.

898
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 1: I ain't thinking nothing of it. I just heard you

899
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: bet and I'm like the first time. I'm like, I'm

900
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: gonna act like I ain't hear that one. You feel me,

901
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: because I'm like, you do that for me, So just

902
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: keep walking. This is my homie. That keep I heard

903
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 1: it again. Now this time this is Whens come down.

904
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: You know, you know when that one pieces Ruin's doing,

905
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: he just kept walling. He ignored the first one too.

906
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: We both ignored the first one. Kept it moving. But

907
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: the second one was like and you can tell it

908
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: was like a white boy. He was just a fan

909
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: and just wanted to say, let's just say just let's

910
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: just say my point is I you supposed to. Now,

911
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: let's let's just say that's what real friends do, and

912
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: this business is built on fake friends. So let's just

913
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: keep it a thousand. So they say the real recognize

914
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,720
Speaker 1: the real. The truth is we gotta flip that around

915
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: and say the fake recognized the fake, because if you're

916
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: real in this industry, then it's almost like you got aids.

917
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: There ain't no realness in this ship. Just know that, right,

918
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: So we celebrate the real. But it's hard because if

919
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: you analyze the ship they'll be going on, you can't

920
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: make no sense of it. Right, So let's just say

921
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: DMX probably had it the worst hold on DMX. Probably

922
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: DMX has demons. DMX has been using and abusing drugs.

923
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: He almost died, supposed to he almost died. Do you

924
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 1: know he almost died? Last week? I sent the pastor

925
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: to us all spool I was. You said, I passed

926
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,240
Speaker 1: it to his hospital. You send the passage to his hospital.

927
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: That's like a whole other podcast. By itself, because you

928
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: know what, I wanna be honest with you. You know

929
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: what can say? You know what you say. It's a fact.

930
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: Who's a pause. Let me tell you I was I

931
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 1: was spoken with with DMX one night, four o'clock in

932
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 1: the morning. First of all, I gotta record from when

933
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: he was ten million, when he was ten million, I

934
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: gotta reckor with DMN. I can't say I'm not I'm

935
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: listening coming no more. I know I'm gonna get in

936
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 1: trouble and all the blogs I'm fucking with y'all. I'm

937
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 1: not y'all get it all out. Listen to one time.

938
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 1: This is one. I said, ya, gotta you got, you

939
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:48,919
Speaker 1: gotta hit my DMAX story. Now I gotta. I gotta

940
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: hold long, yo, Joe. This nick is sold ten million.

941
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: At the time, he was his managers Ali Ali is

942
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:01,760
Speaker 1: my flat. Ali went on tour with me. He did everything.

943
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 1: This is my ball. But Ali used to sell rims

944
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 1: and queens. That's how we know him from back in

945
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: the day. He used to work queens and that Muslim

946
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: militia many family, So check it. I'm one death game.

947
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: So I called death Jam and I said, Yo, I

948
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: need you have to book my flight, um to go

949
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: see DMX. I'm gonna fly on Monday and I'm gonna

950
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: return on Wednesday. So Tina Davis, who is Chris Brown's manager,

951
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: Tina Davis called me and says, nobody does the record

952
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,959
Speaker 1: with the dog Daddy easy for mind you. I see

953
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: DMX in River Park towers four o'clock in the morning.

954
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: Nigga is up go infrigerators. You know, were towers in

955
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: the Bronx. By the way, this is not Queens. I

956
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: got family and cousin, Damon and Lea. Do you understand

957
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:58,439
Speaker 1: how if that sounds when a fuckingfrigerator drops and these

958
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: niggas is just standing around. This is what they do

959
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: for fun, right, The MX come through there at four

960
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning. I see Nigga's gonna try bottom line, No,

961
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: that's not happening. I'm gonna die just to make sure

962
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: he's good. Me and X is good. He got sold

963
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: Tim Mayne at this time. This is the hottest thing

964
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: in the world. So I say I'm going to l A.

965
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: It's the first thing of the Drop two albums. This

966
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: is this is this first week like disgusting ship he

967
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 1: was doing. I told you about that met the man too.

968
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: I told you, I've been trying to school my son

969
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: about them. So look, ship boy, So I told Jim

970
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: David said to me, who is christ Brown manager? Now?

971
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: I think or used to. But she says to me,

972
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: nobody flies into l A on Monday, records with DMX

973
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: on Tuesday, and it flies out on Wednesday, Nori. And

974
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm Nori. I'm like, I'm like, you crazy man.

975
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: She was right, hold my, hold on, wait till I

976
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: go with this. I didn't even see this nig until

977
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:08,439
Speaker 1: Thursday at Oh, we're in the same hotel. We both

978
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: got the president who sweeps in the w and Westwood.

979
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: He got the he got the two door one. I

980
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: got the other one with the one door. Right, I

981
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: don't even see this nig right your next door, to

982
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: this next store, to this nigger. Al Right, this naga

983
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: knocks on my door four o'clock in the morning, Thursday morning,

984
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: four o'clock, which means that's seven am, New York time.

985
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: Knock on my door. But your dogs, you're ready, dog?

986
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 1: So I'm like, ship, hell, yeah, ready, I know what

987
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: this is. Sing record too. It's not like a Norriy

988
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,439
Speaker 1: Records seeing then this is this is the hood, the hood.

989
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: I gotta get this ship done. He didn't knock on

990
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: compone door. He knocked on my door. So, yo, let

991
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: me tell you what you Nory was already platinum, yes,

992
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 1: but yeah, but I had to get the job. This

993
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: is this is what your man had to do. Listen

994
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: what I had to do. The nigga walks works me up,

995
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: We go downstairs, got six cars downstairs. Four days later,

996
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 1: so I got this is this is this four days

997
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: it's Thursday. I flew out Monday and see the nigga

998
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: to Thursday. At four o'clock in the morning, which it's

999
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: technically Friday, the niggas six cars is downstairs. I'll tell

1000
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: my niggas where your wake up, bring the car out.

1001
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: My car comes out. He's like, no, no, no, no,

1002
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: you're driving with me. Something I heard about this nigga

1003
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: with just driving ship. Fucking slime. This is what you

1004
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 1: gotta do. This is what you gotta do, right, this

1005
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 1: is what you shut the funk up. Yo. If anybody

1006
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: ever went stayed at the W Hotel in Westwood, we

1007
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: drove six cars, right plus my two from the W

1008
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 1: Westwood all the way around right to Ralph's parkingt line,

1009
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 1: which like we could have walked there. So he went

1010
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 1: around the old just to go to right across the

1011
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 1: street the park. But he's a drive right. He wants

1012
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: to drive there. He doesn't want to walk there, so

1013
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 1: we pull out God goes you like cars. I'm like,

1014
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: he pulls out like seven thousand dollars worth, like the

1015
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 1: real expensive control cars. So I'm like, ship, but what

1016
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. I don't want to do this. I

1017
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 1: need this verse. So I'm sitting there with the moking

1018
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: cars after like I hate the Moki So I'm like, cool,

1019
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: I did it. Boom. He just drives off. It's so over.

1020
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: Never see him again, right boom. The next day he

1021
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: hits me, let's go. NOI I'm like, it's gonna happen,

1022
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: mind you, devil Jam's calling me every day we got

1023
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: the session locked out, three thousand dollars a day for

1024
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: Monday definitely has like yo. I'm like, now I can't,

1025
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 1: but I don't want to tell them they were right.

1026
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: So I'm like, chier, chip, just chick, just chill. Ship.

1027
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: This motherfucker's like, yo, let's go, let's go. He took

1028
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: me to Dublins. Now I didn't. I didn't know at

1029
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 1: the time Dublins was a fucking pool hall. All right,

1030
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 1: I'm thinking Dublins might be the studio he was going

1031
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 1: to buy. You've never seen the studio playing three racks.

1032
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 1: Every day we went, he goes to pool, the second

1033
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: favorite thing I hate in life. I don't play fucking pool.

1034
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: Playing pool. I'm sitting there acting like I like pool again.

1035
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:32,919
Speaker 1: Fucking Sunday morning, we're just hanging out. I still don't

1036
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: get the verse, but he's hanging with me. I know

1037
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: he's not this and me. Some random dude just walks

1038
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 1: on the street was like, y'all do your Max was like,

1039
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: what dog is that? I got a studio right here?

1040
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: He said, you're Norri. Look at that. We got a

1041
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 1: guy with the studio Ida down, y'all gotta do it.

1042
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 1: He just loved your colleg He's just like, yes, Joe,

1043
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 1: excuse you know. He met somebody off the fucking random

1044
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: and we're gonna use this studio like the dog. He's like, you,

1045
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: that's what you've been looking for, right, I said, Dog,

1046
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 1: I had the studio book since Monday. We're going there.

1047
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: You know, here's the crazy ship. The nigga started laying

1048
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 1: his verse. He's killing it. Me and Paul looking at

1049
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: each other like we got it. All of a sudden,

1050
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 1: the music is just dead right, and nobody's in the

1051
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: studio saying nothing. So we're sitting I'm sitting around, you

1052
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,479
Speaker 1: know me, I'm like, I'm a control freak. I'm sorry.

1053
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 1: I can't help it. So I'm like, yo, yo, what's up?

1054
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: Like everybody's did. I'm saying that I'll open this ship.

1055
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: This nig is laid out, not out, yo. Everybody's like, yo,

1056
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 1: nobody wakes, nobody fox with the dog while sleep. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1057
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. I just paid this loot nigga too paid. Listen.

1058
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: I paid the whole week and I just paid the

1059
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 1: nigga because I'm like, he's like, y'all do it for

1060
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: you for for him, Like now he fell out and

1061
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 1: need all my file? How many how many? Boss? He

1062
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: was like he was like six and a half. Damn

1063
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: damn that you know. I mean, that was but let

1064
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: me tell you, let me tell you real quick. The nigga.

1065
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: We are Jimmy's cafe. The nigga DMX come up in there.

1066
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 1: He sees Tony Sunshine and the nigga had like a

1067
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 1: love fest. Oh my god, Sunshine, I love you. I'm

1068
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 1: nig doing he's doing all that ship. So we're in

1069
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 1: the bathroom. We're in the bathroom, in the bathroom, Jimmy's cafe, Jimmy, Oh,

1070
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: I gotta work with you, y'all. The ship, y'all, y'all,

1071
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 1: nor me, I gotta work with you, same ship. Right.

1072
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 1: So this is DMX exactly what you're talking about. Nigga

1073
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: was selling a million records a week. Nigga like at

1074
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 1: of this world me you know Tony sound I mean,

1075
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, great, Like, let's work like you know

1076
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 1: what you want to do. I fly Tony to l

1077
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 1: a ok. I gotta hear this story. Same exactly ship,

1078
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 1: Tony hanging out with the nigga. In fact, I think

1079
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: I took I sent Tony and Macho Tony and Macho

1080
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 1: to get it done. And you know, Macho really trying

1081
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: to get it done. Is like, y'all, he ain't happy,

1082
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: he don't like nothing. So the nigga calling me back

1083
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: every day, he's like, y'all being this nigga got us

1084
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: on the front of that this, this, this, this the

1085
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: nigga Tony Sunshine, they find the least same ship. I

1086
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 1: think that was his gimmick. A week later, nigga got them.

1087
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 1: Niggas was in that lane. Like a week later, the

1088
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:14,439
Speaker 1: nigga Macho called me. He's like, yo, Crack, you ain't

1089
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 1: gonna be leave this ship. God, I said, what happened?

1090
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: He said, the nigga started rapping and went to sleep. No,

1091
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 1: I swear to God. And I was like, I was,

1092
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 1: I was like what he said, Yo, that nigga out,

1093
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 1: Like if the nigga hit him with a hammer and

1094
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:36,479
Speaker 1: niggas was talking the same ship the dog, nobody waked

1095
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 1: the dog right now, I'm a nigga. I tried, alright.

1096
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: The scary thing about this story is that these stories

1097
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 1: is in music until you're not a bread maker. When

1098
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 1: you were bread making somebody like Rest in Peace, Whitney Houston.

1099
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 1: They was letting her get the way with because he

1100
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 1: just worked for them, and they're scared to tell him, like, Yo, chill,

1101
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 1: you're bugging out because check. Yeah, but I mean, but

1102
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: it's how good is your check if you're letting if

1103
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 1: you work for Fat Joe and you're letting him kill

1104
01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 1: himself deteriorate himself and you're thinking about your check right now.

1105
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, all checks is

1106
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 1: gone when I'm gone, and it's an en neighboring. This

1107
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 1: ship is crazy and let me get back. Let me

1108
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 1: just tell you the reason why. Um, because my grandmother

1109
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 1: had passed away. And my grandmother passed away. A pastor

1110
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 1: he was out there, he was he was listen, this

1111
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 1: is a side, but the past he was like that.

1112
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 1: He was like the hip hop pastor. Like he was

1113
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 1: quoting versus that my grandmother's fucking funeral and like, you know,

1114
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 1: you don't have fun at the funeral. Like I'm looking up.

1115
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: He was quoting lines, hip hop lines. And I was like, yo,

1116
01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 1: I said, Yo, give me your number. I said, yo,

1117
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need you. No, I told him I'm gonna

1118
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 1: need him for I was gonna put him on a

1119
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 1: drunk project. But then I thought about I was like,

1120
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 1: I'm way too negative, you know, the squeeze and something.

1121
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 1: I need this thing. But I help me because I

1122
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 1: could get the negga to talk some ship when where

1123
01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 1: he's just chalking the ship. And so look, so now

1124
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 1: let me tell you, now, get shot at the one time.

1125
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,680
Speaker 1: So look one time we're all in l A. We're

1126
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 1: smoking weed but don't drinking whatever. And in the middle

1127
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 1: of all that, DMX said, Yo, can your brothers doing favor?

1128
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 1: Can you put all that down and pray? And he

1129
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 1: want to do that? And he arrest you that to

1130
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 1: me every time I I don't you want to pray? Yeah? Yeah,

1131
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 1: so I think it. Maybe he hear it from somebody

1132
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 1: else shot him. This is one and you're my friend

1133
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 1: of me. Never speak about this. We ain't never speak

1134
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 1: about this is real. I love DMX. He knows I

1135
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 1: love him. So every time I said, we gotta pray, man,

1136
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 1: you know, he prays for me. Man, but I don't understand, Like, um,

1137
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 1: I don't you know. I don't get it. Man, He's

1138
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 1: a complicated dude, and it's like it's sad man because

1139
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: people really love him. Sometimes people love you and you

1140
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: deal with so many demons and depression, but they can't

1141
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 1: even affect you with like sometimes I'm having a shitty

1142
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:21,599
Speaker 1: day and even if I'm fat, Joe and Nigga said, Yo,

1143
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 1: I love you. Your music is great. I still feel

1144
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 1: like ship. You know what I'm saying. So people gotta

1145
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 1: deal with their own things, their own way. Um, but

1146
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 1: when you got drugs involved, it's yeah, so we gotta

1147
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 1: just pray, we gotta. I had a pastor when I

1148
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 1: lived in the projects and ship and the nigga would

1149
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 1: always talk to me and then we just wild niggas

1150
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,560
Speaker 1: and ship before rap music and all that. And the

1151
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 1: nigga would talk to me and pray all the time.

1152
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 1: He was also the uh work for housing that he

1153
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 1: was the sweep and you know, custodian nigga, right, so

1154
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 1: he would always talk to me and Joey, you know,

1155
01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 1: you need to change your life and this and this

1156
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 1: and at and what was crazy is the time when

1157
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 1: I had got shot and I got shot maybe fifteen

1158
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 1: blocks from my my block, like I wasn't around my hood.

1159
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 1: But while I'm laying, you know what I'm saying, getting shot,

1160
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 1: laying the fucking pastor who used to work in my projects,

1161
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 1: as I'm running this ship like that, he's out there

1162
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 1: praying for me. Like the nigga literally is like I

1163
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,759
Speaker 1: see him, Like I'm like, what the fund the pastor

1164
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 1: doing over here? Joey trying to come to God. You

1165
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 1: know I was out there praying, you know, I was

1166
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 1: out there praying, right so I'm like, yeah, Pastor. You know,

1167
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm always been a respectful nigga and ship, so I'm like, yeah,

1168
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 1: it passed the boom. So I remember one time, Um,

1169
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 1: the police were so mad at me. To this day,

1170
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 1: they're still mad, like because they couldn't catch me. So

1171
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:58,799
Speaker 1: they were here, shots fired, fat nigger with red hoodie,

1172
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 1: you know, like they knew what was going on. They

1173
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 1: just couldn't pin it on the nig and they were

1174
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 1: just so fucking eat it right. So I'm in. One

1175
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,439
Speaker 1: time we had some beef and were standing in front

1176
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 1: of the building that we strapped, I mean like super

1177
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 1: strapped right, We're ready to go down right, and we

1178
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 1: got no clue. We just talking about how we're gonna

1179
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 1: go over here and do our business whatever. So the

1180
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 1: pastor come over. You gotta see. He said, Yo. Joey said,

1181
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 1: don't look, don't act like you're talking to me. I said, Yo,

1182
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 1: what's south pastor? And we act like we talked. He

1183
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: was like, there's so many cops on both sides of

1184
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:42,679
Speaker 1: this building there about the rush, y'all. This is the pastor.

1185
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 1: I don't even think he ain't supposed to do that,

1186
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,599
Speaker 1: right when you in church supposed to do that. He's

1187
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 1: supposed to listen. If you want to relate to the community,

1188
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 1: you got to be a part of the community. You

1189
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 1: gotta be a bottle. Yo said, this nigga tells me right,

1190
01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 1: So I'm like, word, He's like, yo, there there on

1191
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: that side and that side. So this nigga I was

1192
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,680
Speaker 1: cool with. It's a real passing. This nigga I was

1193
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,719
Speaker 1: cool with. Live on the first floor. I ain't gonna

1194
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 1: give him no props to give him say his name,

1195
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 1: but I'll tell niggas. It was like three of us

1196
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 1: had hammers. I was like, yo, and like the counter.

1197
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 1: Three nigga we booking and we're diving in Homeboys window. Nigga.

1198
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 1: So my nigga, we just said we went. We took off.

1199
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 1: We all jumped in the window, right, so we shut

1200
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 1: the window down. You hear the cops like one minute

1201
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 1: where they go because everybody else ran, but we got away.

1202
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 1: We at the hammers, but we under the window like

1203
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 1: a movie, like the windows over us and we're like

1204
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 1: and you hear these niggas. It was like t cops

1205
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: and both like how did these niggas get away? Right?

1206
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,680
Speaker 1: They're bugging out there on both sides. So I ran

1207
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 1: around this building. They catched me on this side. They're

1208
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 1: bugging out, like how did niggas get away? Right? So

1209
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 1: we're sitting up there. My man's mom's her name was

1210
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 1: Cheeky Dina. I never forget. She came over to me.

1211
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 1: She was like, she sounds gangster, she said in Spanish.

1212
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 1: She told me in Spanish, but I'll tell you in English.

1213
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 1: She was like, you guys are bringing me eat to

1214
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 1: my house. Yo, smut yo, Like you're making my ship.

1215
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 1: HU should call the cover was like, please don't call

1216
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 1: it goss. You motherfucker's This was like, please don't say that.

1217
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 1: But we got away with it. We can never jump

1218
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 1: in the window him in the past to help me

1219
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:44,680
Speaker 1: get away. That's right, clipping Howard how Daniels is is

1220
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 1: our pastor? That I said, absolutely, man, because you know

1221
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:53,839
Speaker 1: what I believe in, what religion you believe for your religion?

1222
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:57,599
Speaker 1: If you felt you were sending what he preferred into

1223
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 1: he was saying you what you're saying. He he prayed

1224
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 1: for me like this Source Awards weekend in l A.

1225
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 1: When we was on that ship, like nigga work, like

1226
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:10,679
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like I'm from New York.

1227
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna leave with my jury, Like that's

1228
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 1: my world. That's that's that's that's how I felt at

1229
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 1: that time. So my mind frame, he's also he also

1230
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 1: saved me, like when we landed, when we landed, Yeah,

1231
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 1: when we landed, we've seen Eve and all this ship

1232
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:27,719
Speaker 1: like so we're out there and we've seen like bitches

1233
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 1: like you know, like wrap bitches, and they funk with me.

1234
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 1: I got to you know, I got that record out

1235
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 1: that super Dog was killing them. So I'm thinking, is love?

1236
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 1: It's not love. I think that d Mexican came to

1237
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 1: my man. This is one of the percent real story.

1238
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 1: He said, the dogs gotta watch the dog. So if

1239
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:48,639
Speaker 1: the dogs is what the dogs, then the dogs ain't

1240
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 1: gonna month trying the dog. So if the dogs always

1241
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 1: around the dogs, the dogs stay with the dogs and

1242
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 1: the dog can never come around by itself. The nigga

1243
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 1: as my people's five. So as he walked away, I'm

1244
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 1: like this nigga certified crazy. My man from the box

1245
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 1: um Ronald joining is his real name, is my brother.

1246
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: He said, I understood everything I said what he said.

1247
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 1: He said, he said, look nor like the Rappers the

1248
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 1: target make and then me and Poem Poem rented Jag,

1249
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 1: I rented the porch and then we rented like a

1250
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 1: fifteen passenger van to stay behind us, feel me. So

1251
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:32,799
Speaker 1: the dog said, make sure the dogs is always around

1252
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 1: the dog. Don't never let the dog come out by itself,

1253
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 1: which meanings, don't let the nigga walk by something like

1254
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, like nor's a real nigga. Poem is

1255
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 1: a real nigga. But they got jury on. That's what

1256
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 1: it's going to attract to them, you know what I mean?

1257
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 1: Like I was like wow when I deciphered it, I

1258
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:52,839
Speaker 1: was like, this nigga is mad smart, like he's super smarter.

1259
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 1: Then they give him credit for. Then with people give

1260
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 1: him credit for like you know what I'm saying and

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01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 1: super hood. Welcome to play a new podcast network featuring

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01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 1: radio and TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment, and more.

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01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 1: Play it at play dot It. We're back to Drink

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01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 1: Champs Radio with Rapper and R and d Jes. Then,

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01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 1: first of all, I want to thank you man, you

1266
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Hey, yo man, this was a

1267
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:35,320
Speaker 1: long podcast. Yeah yeah, no, no, no longer because but

1268
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:37,680
Speaker 1: you already say you're not coming back. You gotta call

1269
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:41,480
Speaker 1: this ship like the Bible with some ships like chapters

1270
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 1: of the let's go here for back to you before

1271
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 1: you bounce. I got something personal. This is personal ship.

1272
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 1: So you know, as Latinos, we grew up and we

1273
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 1: we grasped it, like we said, Luis got you. We're

1274
01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 1: grasping onto that as Latinos so and then as Latinos,

1275
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 1: then we sub grasp I'm Cuban, I'm Puerto Rican, I'm Dominican.

1276
01:17:06,439 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 1: Then we're trying to find those cats in the game.

1277
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 1: So you pot but then I find out, let me

1278
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 1: find out, I'm Cuban. Factios have Cuban. You should have

1279
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 1: known that from day one. No. I knew that early on,

1280
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 1: but it wasn't representing the music. I was like, really,

1281
01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 1: I don't know how to represent Cuban in the music.

1282
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 1: So so what's the story behind that? Is my question?

1283
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 1: Because the only way I'll break it all down to you,

1284
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,560
Speaker 1: right um, the only way to break it down to

1285
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 1: you is if we did Cuban, we would have to

1286
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 1: do come on, everybody want you to do that, come

1287
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 1: come on, like that's what it would be. My nigga.

1288
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 1: So it's like, but is there a reason, like is it?

1289
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 1: Is it? Like? No, your family is really when you

1290
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 1: grew up, what happened is my father's Cuban, my mother's

1291
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican. My Cuban side of my family was from Miami,

1292
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 1: was from like jer they was Jersey then they moved

1293
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 1: to Miami. So I grew up with the Puerto Ricans mostly,

1294
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:06,720
Speaker 1: like really with the Puerto Ricans, with my mother, my

1295
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 1: father and everything. But I never denied that I was

1296
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 1: Cuban in any way, shape or form. But I screamed

1297
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico so loud that Cubans didn't see it. But

1298
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:20,640
Speaker 1: if you go back to when I came out and

1299
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 1: you read, hey there's a new rapper on the set.

1300
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 1: He's Puerto Rican and Cuban from day one, know not

1301
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 1: go catch it the internet somebody like for example Killer

1302
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 1: like Curious George when he said I'm half Castro, half whatever,

1303
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 1: like he said it in a line and I didn't

1304
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:41,679
Speaker 1: know what he meant. No, I knew it because I'm Cuban.

1305
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 1: And when it was saying Cuban Spanish like they was

1306
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 1: hill Cuba, yes, and I thought there was Mexican. I

1307
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 1: thought he was originally from the same hood and I'm

1308
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,639
Speaker 1: originally from l A so, but when they were speaking

1309
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,720
Speaker 1: Spanish and they had that song, I forget the Latin

1310
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:01,640
Speaker 1: link and there wasn't that legal the other record on

1311
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 1: the on their album, they were saying sing guy and

1312
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 1: this and that, and it was like, you're Cuban, like

1313
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 1: we knew it as Cubans. I'm like the Mexican they killed,

1314
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 1: breaking news. I just found out that the Cuban Yeah, yeah,

1315
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 1: it was Mexican. Was was Cuba brother dog and then

1316
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 1: be real, I think he's half Cuban half Mexican. I think, well,

1317
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:38,640
Speaker 1: me personally, I get a little I'm glad we had

1318
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 1: this conversation, but I get slightly offended because I know

1319
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 1: I've been representing the Cubans since even even some me

1320
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 1: and you had I've been representing Cuban since day one.

1321
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 1: So my thing is, well, document meant it like if

1322
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 1: you go back to my interviews from day one to

1323
01:19:56,479 --> 01:20:00,080
Speaker 1: be like, fa the Cuban mother Puerto Rican, right, But

1324
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 1: I did grow up with my Puerto Rican side more

1325
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 1: um uh so I always wrapped Cuban. I have brothers

1326
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: and sisters from Cuba. I brought back nine brothers and

1327
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 1: sisters from Cuba over here. Um, you know, I don't

1328
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:17,920
Speaker 1: even know how to think. While they were there, I

1329
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:20,640
Speaker 1: was supporting them, building homes for them, thinking so they

1330
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 1: can live, like you can't keep it. Really, to me,

1331
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 1: my father's Cuban. The worst kind of Cuban you can have.

1332
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 1: Like he'll argue with you politically for ten hours, like

1333
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 1: you know my family. So you know, I always bugged

1334
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 1: out when I bumped into a Cuban and they was

1335
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 1: telling me like, yo, I ain't know you was Cuban.

1336
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 1: I was like, so you I see that early on.

1337
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:45,640
Speaker 1: I was like, you ain't paying attention. You ain't paying attention,

1338
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 1: Maybe not when you said it originally. Nine, So let's

1339
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 1: just say so you know you meant like why we

1340
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 1: didn't say Cuban so called Cuban link, right, but Cuban link.

1341
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,599
Speaker 1: He wanted to wrap humans And you don't really want

1342
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 1: to hear that. You really didn't want to hear. Come on,

1343
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 1: everybody want to do that. Come if we want to

1344
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:10,759
Speaker 1: let that nigga go, If we wouldn't let that nigga

1345
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:14,800
Speaker 1: go either, throwing the g like you my nigga, we

1346
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 1: te squad soft throng killing niggas like stop. He really

1347
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 1: wanted to be the first pit bull to be honest

1348
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:27,560
Speaker 1: with you. He wanted to thought with the shirt. He

1349
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 1: wanted to do that bad and we was like, Yo,

1350
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 1: my nigga, we killed I remember me, and pun used

1351
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 1: to argue with this thing, Yo, what the funk you're doing?

1352
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 1: What is this? But you know we can't. We made

1353
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:43,760
Speaker 1: music for everybody, so you gotta you gotta know that

1354
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 1: we make music for everybody. So hip hop itself is

1355
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:53,680
Speaker 1: a subculture, a sub religion, right. I don't really get

1356
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:56,639
Speaker 1: offended when white people say, nigga, that's a hip hop fan.

1357
01:21:57,200 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 1: I really don't, cause they're white niggas, but because hip

1358
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:05,520
Speaker 1: hop is one you know what is like a religion.

1359
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 1: I don't feel like, you know, a motherfucker, you gotta

1360
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 1: to be Spanish, you gotta be black, you gotta be white,

1361
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 1: you gotta be Chinese, you gotta be I just feel like,

1362
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 1: be proud of who you are, rep who you are,

1363
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 1: but make music for everybody. And that's some of the

1364
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 1: problems we've had with Latino rappers. You know what I'm saying.

1365
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 1: Like me personally, I don't know how they ain't more

1366
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 1: successful Latino rappers because we put the blueprint out there.

1367
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 1: We've been from the beginning. No, no, no, hip hop

1368
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 1: is not black. Music is black and Latino music originally

1369
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 1: from the beginning day one. No not, that's not the discussion.

1370
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:51,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying Fat Joe Big pun. No, we put the

1371
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 1: blueprints like, of course cypress, but I'm saying cypress. So

1372
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:59,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying there, we took the blueprint right, like

1373
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,639
Speaker 1: just keep it real. But it's out there. So what's

1374
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 1: the excuse is sip and says they're performing for white people.

1375
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:08,560
Speaker 1: Black people. Try how can I kill a man? But

1376
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:10,960
Speaker 1: the nigga want to come. I ain't want to make

1377
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 1: straight Latino music. I sit down, especially West Coast Latino

1378
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 1: rappers whenever I sat down with them and I have

1379
01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 1: one on one with them, because I always want to

1380
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 1: give nigga's knowledge. I sit down, be like, Yo, Poppy,

1381
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 1: I know you Mexican. We want you to wrap Mexican,

1382
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 1: but make music for everybody. Nah, but you gotta be

1383
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:33,640
Speaker 1: the biggest nigga. I mean, I think if there was

1384
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:39,679
Speaker 1: a fly, handsome Mexican nigga spitting that ship, just spitting

1385
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 1: that ship. Black girls, white girls, everything would fucking love

1386
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 1: this nigger. You understand what I'm saying. So it couldn't.

1387
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 1: It shouldn't be a barrier. You shouldn't. You shouldn't enclose

1388
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 1: yourself to a certain category. And that's how you know.

1389
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 1: I always approached the game and me also, I came

1390
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 1: from a neighborhood there was ninety nine point nine black.

1391
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 1: So it's so imagine if you see a pack of

1392
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:11,599
Speaker 1: black lions or black panthers in the in the jungle

1393
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:16,600
Speaker 1: and this nigga non stop calling broke. You see a

1394
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 1: pack of black panthers and you see one white panther

1395
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 1: with them. That was always sad Jaw, the only Spanish

1396
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 1: white nigga with blonde hair with five hundred black niggas

1397
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 1: just walking through. And he was the only for the weekend.

1398
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 1: And I was the only queen's dude in the Bronx.

1399
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 1: That's true. People used to be like, why are you here?

1400
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:42,599
Speaker 1: Why not? I used to like, why are you sure

1401
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 1: you okay? I'm I'm just tendent, Like what the fun

1402
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 1: was he doing? Now? But now that's just the way.

1403
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 1: That's the way I was raised. So I was raised

1404
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 1: in the community where it was all black, you know

1405
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:02,800
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And so um it was like, you know,

1406
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 1: like I consider myself black too. Like as weird as

1407
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 1: it sounds, I'm proud to be Lapino. I waived the

1408
01:25:11,520 --> 01:25:13,879
Speaker 1: worried about it. You know what I'm saying. I'm serious,

1409
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:18,639
Speaker 1: like I'm black. It's weird because I tell black people

1410
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 1: that all the time and they'll be like, yo, what

1411
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:22,280
Speaker 1: do you mean, Like Nika, I'm black nigger. Like what you,

1412
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 1: I'm blacker than you because you want to be a

1413
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:30,719
Speaker 1: black white guy. I'm standing this black nigga. You understand

1414
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 1: what I'm up. Hell yeah, Harvard black nigga, nigger. I'm

1415
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 1: black nigga. To me, I had it worse because like

1416
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 1: I would hang out with the with the with the

1417
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:43,639
Speaker 1: black people. Then I would go with the bato Ricans

1418
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 1: and they go to the money, and then I had

1419
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:48,599
Speaker 1: to go to Then I gotta go with the black

1420
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 1: people and they got the spects and it was like

1421
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 1: and you in the middle, in the middle, like I'm no, no,

1422
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 1: I want to tell your story. The land King's right,

1423
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm jan in jail right. The Latin kids,

1424
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 1: they they they doing some ship for the dentists. Right,

1425
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 1: I'm in jail right. What they're doing for the dentists

1426
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 1: know that what they're doing, No, they're fucking they're recruited

1427
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:26,599
Speaker 1: every Spanish person in the unit. But what they're doing

1428
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 1: is saying that you got to go to the dentist

1429
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:33,760
Speaker 1: in jail. Right. So these dudes come and they're like,

1430
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 1: Victor Santiago. So I stand up for the people who

1431
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 1: don't know that's that's my name, super all right. So

1432
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:46,000
Speaker 1: I stood up and the dudes like, not you, at you,

1433
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:51,080
Speaker 1: so stat back down. Then they go Victor Santiago and

1434
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, I'm not gonna keep standing up. And

1435
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 1: then they're like but not you, not you right time?

1436
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 1: Like but this, I'm like, yo, I'm not standing up again,

1437
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 1: and like your victorsn't young. That's my name. So like

1438
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 1: the guard, the CEO, Nigga was down with the he

1439
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 1: was a Latin kings king. So they pulled me in.

1440
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 1: The dentists put all razors to me like yo, you Cuban.

1441
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 1: I'm like no, you're like Dominican. I'm like no, You're like, well,

1442
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 1: what the funk are you? Why the fund is your name?

1443
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:32,719
Speaker 1: Victor Santiago. So I'm like yo, I'm for the weekend

1444
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:36,559
Speaker 1: in black. They're like, damn, you can't really be down

1445
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:42,920
Speaker 1: with us, they said, but they got the razors to me.

1446
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 1: I can't do nothing. They actually set me up where

1447
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 1: like you know what you're sitting and didn't move, kid move.

1448
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 1: So I'm like, they said, so this is what we're

1449
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 1: gonna do. We're gonna make you at neat. I had

1450
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 1: never heard they said we're gonna make you a net

1451
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 1: because they think they see my sheet. My sheet was clean.

1452
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 1: But I'm trapped. It's nothing I can do. It doesn't

1453
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 1: matter what you get out of it. So they're like,

1454
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 1: we're gonna make you a net. And I said, Yo,

1455
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 1: my dude, I'm that new truth. People like I'm both,

1456
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 1: I can't listen. I go to the yard. I love handball.

1457
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:28,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm nice. Beat me in handball. No, I

1458
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:33,560
Speaker 1: never hated that. You never never handball. And in his

1459
01:28:33,720 --> 01:28:35,799
Speaker 1: death was like, yo, I had to get my rematch.

1460
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 1: Like when he died, I was like, yo, I'm needed

1461
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:41,599
Speaker 1: my rematch. Like you know, Fat Niggas is the best

1462
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:44,680
Speaker 1: niggers in handball. I don't know if you know that

1463
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 1: Edy gigs in fact, and he's great in me and

1464
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 1: you will play handball. We got serious at one point,

1465
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 1: came out of jail and they said, Yo, we gotta

1466
01:28:56,120 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 1: play handball, and we went somewhere out here. People don't

1467
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 1: know this about me. I'm actually I thought I was

1468
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 1: a handball expert until, like anybody that's like, like Pun

1469
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 1: beat me in the handball, I never, like, I never

1470
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 1: actually forgave him superhuman even in death, I'm like, I

1471
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 1: still need like like a god bless because you know,

1472
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 1: hopefully ill, you know whatever. But when we see each

1473
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 1: other that happen, That's probably the first thing I'm gonna

1474
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 1: say to him. Rematch him? How it's gonna go? Yeah,

1475
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:37,640
Speaker 1: I love you? How's it having rematch? Immediately? I want to, like,

1476
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:40,080
Speaker 1: all right, so listen that being said, we all we

1477
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:43,559
Speaker 1: all Latin knows. I want to end it on who's

1478
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:47,679
Speaker 1: your favorite Latino besides Pun, besides Nori, besides Joe because

1479
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 1: it would be unfair. So my favorite Latino? Who hit me? Good?

1480
01:29:56,000 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 1: Fross favorite? When I heard this is you thought he

1481
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:09,639
Speaker 1: was dope different. I'm sorry. Pick up the school Devil.

1482
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 1: His school Devil is a legendary, but that was Scoop

1483
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 1: de Ville was my favorite. I knew Kid Fross since

1484
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 1: I started. He was on relativity to get out of here,

1485
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 1: and yeah, I couldn't rules and I couldn't. Really you

1486
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:30,680
Speaker 1: didn't get what kid from now because he was like

1487
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 1: I met the real kid Frost and I was just

1488
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:38,840
Speaker 1: like different person. We don't know this story. He was

1489
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 1: trying to let you go, but now you gotta you

1490
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:49,120
Speaker 1: already it's already wet, you gotta go. I couldn't do that.

1491
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:52,680
Speaker 1: But all I can say is that back to the

1492
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:55,760
Speaker 1: West Coast, they looking ship different than we look at it.

1493
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:58,560
Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying I'm hanging out with.

1494
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just say you the miniature version of it

1495
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:05,639
Speaker 1: because I wouldn't do that. But he comes to New York,

1496
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:09,440
Speaker 1: so I'm like, Yo, I gotta salute the Mexican homies

1497
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:12,479
Speaker 1: is So I take me Jimmy's cafe and we walked

1498
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:16,640
Speaker 1: down the block all all you know, as we're walking out,

1499
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 1: everybody like, yo, crack with something, Yo crack, what's up?

1500
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 1: What's up? So up? So I'm walking up, dapping everybody

1501
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 1: and we walked like half a block. He sist, Yo, Joe,

1502
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:28,720
Speaker 1: can they talk to you? Homes not kid for us

1503
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:30,799
Speaker 1: I'm where him. I got him in New York. Feeding

1504
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 1: him will be chilling, brothers. I'm doing any funk with

1505
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 1: the black guys. Yeah, that's the that's the problem. I'm like,

1506
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:43,680
Speaker 1: I'm like what he's like, No, man, I see you

1507
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:46,760
Speaker 1: talking to all these guys. I'm bucking out. I'm like, Yo,

1508
01:31:46,920 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 1: no nigger. And that was a once in a life.

1509
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 1: You know, we hung out one time. He probably over

1510
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:56,080
Speaker 1: there saying funk fat joe Yango with the black guys.

1511
01:31:56,320 --> 01:32:02,120
Speaker 1: I couldn't, you know, but you know I couldn't. Spanish dudes.

1512
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:07,360
Speaker 1: They influence me, Um, not influence you or even just

1513
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:11,599
Speaker 1: you think that it's it's hard or hot. The hardest

1514
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:16,360
Speaker 1: niggas ever, the hardest niggas ever. Um. Somebody who impressed me,

1515
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:19,559
Speaker 1: can I say to ye? And I always say him.

1516
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 1: But somebody who impressed me at a young age who

1517
01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:25,559
Speaker 1: was a fly nigger was Tito from the Feelers Fall

1518
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 1: and the rumors I used to hear about him when

1519
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:30,840
Speaker 1: I was a young kid, was like he was getting money.

1520
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 1: He was a flying nigga fucking all the bad bitches

1521
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 1: and the feelis fo was you know, an amazing rap crew.

1522
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 1: He's somebody I looked up to even to this day

1523
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 1: when I see him, might be like, yo, we gotta

1524
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 1: make noise for Joe being super hip hop on his

1525
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 1: first pick. Some of these people like what the fun

1526
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:53,439
Speaker 1: is the fearless think it's Tito from the Feelers fall

1527
01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 1: like he used a fly nigger your real hip hopper.

1528
01:32:57,960 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 1: Just you just really showed the world. Now you are

1529
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 1: because Googles and who Google? And I'm gonna tell you

1530
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 1: a secret. Right when we were shooting the video John

1531
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:15,040
Speaker 1: Blaze in queens Um, we were shooting in John Blades,

1532
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:18,880
Speaker 1: I was there. It was in Brooklyn green Point, so

1533
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:22,320
Speaker 1: it was Pun's birth This and me and Nas is beefing.

1534
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 1: Do you remember? This was beefing and you called me

1535
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:31,680
Speaker 1: to scotch the beef for Nas. Do you remember that?

1536
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:35,320
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm in with nas verse plays. I'm

1537
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:38,920
Speaker 1: the only person that's in the verse with Nas because

1538
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:43,600
Speaker 1: I think I hung out with Cormega some bullshit. So

1539
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 1: he goes like to getting Nas. He's a special guy too,

1540
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:51,120
Speaker 1: So no, he's a special guy. So and me and

1541
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:53,280
Speaker 1: I stopped talking and you called me and it was

1542
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 1: like that's your brother, Um, so we should we turned

1543
01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:02,120
Speaker 1: around and this is real ship, right, Yeah, now we're

1544
01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:06,320
Speaker 1: gave him too much rel So this is Teeto from

1545
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:09,759
Speaker 1: the Feelers Fall. Came out of nowhere to the video,

1546
01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 1: and he had a cake. He knew it was Pun's birthday.

1547
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 1: He never met punt. Was this John Blake. So he

1548
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 1: comes in the trailer and he gets it. He brings

1549
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:23,080
Speaker 1: out a cake and the nigga pulls out a bunch

1550
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:27,519
Speaker 1: of hundred dollar bills and put them like candles on

1551
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 1: the cake. This Tito feelis he wasn't even a rapper

1552
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:36,880
Speaker 1: no more like you know, he was beyond crazy. Still

1553
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:40,000
Speaker 1: give money through up the hun're doing. By the way,

1554
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:48,439
Speaker 1: it's still still getting money, right. Man. Turned around and

1555
01:34:48,520 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 1: I'm explaining the punt of what it is, and it's Teeto.

1556
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:53,760
Speaker 1: He's the rich, didn't even really know him. So I

1557
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:56,360
Speaker 1: go like this your pinties like the niggative first nigga,

1558
01:34:56,479 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 1: this this dad flies Spanish nigging teetot up all the

1559
01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:02,720
Speaker 1: fucking hundred dollar bills and pump blew it out. We

1560
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:05,599
Speaker 1: ate the cake. Tito's a stand up guy, man, he's

1561
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:09,000
Speaker 1: a beautiful person. She said too. And I gotta give

1562
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:13,000
Speaker 1: it to Cypress Hills because both gave me to the

1563
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:14,760
Speaker 1: West Coast. I'm sorry I didn't know kid for us

1564
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:19,160
Speaker 1: to think about. But I'm still as Cuban and anyway,

1565
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:24,720
Speaker 1: kids music and it representing the Ross. I love me

1566
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:28,479
Speaker 1: because because you know why, you know I actually understand it.

1567
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:30,400
Speaker 1: I did. I did a movie. It's a horror flick

1568
01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:34,400
Speaker 1: called Seven Mommies. I don't recommend you see it. Crash.

1569
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:39,599
Speaker 1: I did questions, questions, the question He the first two

1570
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 1: videos I ever shot in my life. He shot it

1571
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:45,439
Speaker 1: so you felt loyal. Was so he told me to

1572
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 1: come to Arizona. I did, Uh. Noel g from training

1573
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:52,679
Speaker 1: Jade training day. No no, don't say no more niggas

1574
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:57,360
Speaker 1: the mommy nig fucked up. It was fun. I ain't fun.

1575
01:35:57,479 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 1: And then then they killed me. I played the black

1576
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:04,200
Speaker 1: guy in the Hart. My favorite role is paid for

1577
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:06,920
Speaker 1: when he comes over to the car. You know, I

1578
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 1: freest out that home man. That's the legend Gerry wrong.

1579
01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:18,839
Speaker 1: I was like, you're Samuel Jackson moment, but yeah, actually

1580
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:21,920
Speaker 1: we'll go there. We'll go there. So look, so Noel

1581
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:25,720
Speaker 1: Noel G me and him got mad cool like I'm

1582
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:28,519
Speaker 1: talking about like he hung out my trailer. I hung

1583
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:32,320
Speaker 1: out his trailer and he's from East. Um, I'm would

1584
01:36:32,320 --> 01:36:35,320
Speaker 1: say East New York, East l A. So I flew

1585
01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:36,800
Speaker 1: to l A one time. I was like, yeah, I

1586
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:39,000
Speaker 1: want to go to your hood. He was like he

1587
01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 1: had to keep it real with me. He was like, nah,

1588
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:46,720
Speaker 1: that come over. You know, I go any hood, Joe,

1589
01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:49,320
Speaker 1: East New York. Pink houses. I don't give a funk.

1590
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:51,840
Speaker 1: But when the person that's supposed to bring you there

1591
01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:56,840
Speaker 1: says they gotta have you, nah, they like they can

1592
01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:59,439
Speaker 1: hold you. They said your skin color, he said, I've

1593
01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:03,439
Speaker 1: seen them killed Mexicans. That skin is darker than yours.

1594
01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:07,560
Speaker 1: That's what he said. You know that's prison politics, but

1595
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:14,000
Speaker 1: a prison politics run. I'm not in the black community

1596
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:17,600
Speaker 1: all over the community. So um that that sucked me

1597
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:19,760
Speaker 1: up when I realized that for me, but paid it

1598
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:24,680
Speaker 1: for To get back to that, I actually audition for

1599
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:30,479
Speaker 1: alcohol and I didn't get it. Wood Harris, who um

1600
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:33,000
Speaker 1: was the person I spoke to and paid it for.

1601
01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:37,120
Speaker 1: Who played hazy with Harris. He came to me and

1602
01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 1: he and he tried to prep me for the audition role.

1603
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:44,760
Speaker 1: And when he prepped me for the audition, Um, I

1604
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:47,720
Speaker 1: took it too serious. You know, I got I got

1605
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:50,720
Speaker 1: a real actor sitting there telling me what to do,

1606
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:53,280
Speaker 1: what to do, and I tried to do it to Actually,

1607
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:57,520
Speaker 1: I did eight movies. I never got any movie from audition.

1608
01:37:58,520 --> 01:38:02,800
Speaker 1: I I'm say, you got to got it. If I'm

1609
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:05,120
Speaker 1: saying I got it, I'm in front of the camera,

1610
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm back on that. If you just say,

1611
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:11,800
Speaker 1: y'all want fat Joe in this movie, I'm great. I'm

1612
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:13,400
Speaker 1: gonna do I'm gonna kill it. I'm gonna do it.

1613
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:15,640
Speaker 1: But I never read my lines like I read them.

1614
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:17,920
Speaker 1: I memorize them because I'm God body like you know

1615
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:21,680
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I memorize them and did not

1616
01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 1: change them. Because the thing about God body, if you,

1617
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:27,799
Speaker 1: if you really realize it, after you master your one twenty,

1618
01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:31,120
Speaker 1: you gotta master your plus degrees. So to me, that's

1619
01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:33,400
Speaker 1: what always what hip hop was to me, it was

1620
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:37,040
Speaker 1: a plus degree. It was is this five percent? We

1621
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:45,040
Speaker 1: went from you just at first everything, I'm leaving every coach.

1622
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:48,040
Speaker 1: You know, it's too it's too late for me to

1623
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:52,520
Speaker 1: go emphatically, no sightful, you can't do it in today's

1624
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:57,040
Speaker 1: master I'm from God's Ville. Yeah, that's they called your

1625
01:38:57,080 --> 01:39:00,320
Speaker 1: hood gods Ville. They called my God City, they called

1626
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 1: my hut waship because from Kenda from Kid Yeah he wasn't.

1627
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:20,439
Speaker 1: The two niggas snuck down there. They there but Cypress

1628
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:25,600
Speaker 1: Hills because they did it big. And remember when I

1629
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:27,840
Speaker 1: first saw them, I thought they was from New York

1630
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:31,120
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh damn. They shot the video

1631
01:39:31,240 --> 01:39:34,000
Speaker 1: New York and the Cuban cub in the video from

1632
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:38,240
Speaker 1: the video was that killing killing They shot at front

1633
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:42,160
Speaker 1: and everything that everybody. Everybody was discussing that are they

1634
01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:44,519
Speaker 1: from New York? Are they from? Where? Then? Are they from?

1635
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:47,200
Speaker 1: The niggas like like that, and they was in the

1636
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:55,720
Speaker 1: hole Cypress Hill, you were killing queens. Yeah no, no,

1637
01:39:55,800 --> 01:40:00,840
Speaker 1: no tips in that video too. I think my nigga,

1638
01:40:00,880 --> 01:40:03,240
Speaker 1: I thought them niggas was from New York. But I'm

1639
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:05,639
Speaker 1: not gonna tell you I looked up to them because

1640
01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:08,519
Speaker 1: they was from New York. I'm just telling you, I

1641
01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:15,439
Speaker 1: want to get high. So the niggas was right, and

1642
01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:19,759
Speaker 1: I don't even get highly niggas was rocking my nigga

1643
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:22,599
Speaker 1: like like like, I ain't even gonna lie to this day,

1644
01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:25,720
Speaker 1: I probably look up to Cypress Hill still because I

1645
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:28,639
Speaker 1: just feel like they really put it down the way

1646
01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:30,760
Speaker 1: I like it to be put down and still no,

1647
01:40:31,120 --> 01:40:36,880
Speaker 1: all these ships to this day, No, you gotta say

1648
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:38,479
Speaker 1: yours and you're gonna wrap it up. In terms of

1649
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:42,559
Speaker 1: Latino raph I mean yeah, well Cypre's Hill is definitely

1650
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:50,160
Speaker 1: for sure and punk, hands down punk. You know, I'm

1651
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:52,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna end this on this well part of the

1652
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:55,280
Speaker 1: best Latino rapper ever lived. I'll tell you right the

1653
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:59,880
Speaker 1: bottom real quick. When when I heard when I heard

1654
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:06,560
Speaker 1: him on Firewater, Firewater, that was me. It was me

1655
01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:14,520
Speaker 1: getting and OK, that's the first put that on mixtape,

1656
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:21,640
Speaker 1: my mixtape, no mixtape. Let me tell you, nobody had

1657
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 1: ever heard anything I put on the mixtape here in Miami,

1658
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:28,720
Speaker 1: and I was like, this dude is fucking killing it.

1659
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:33,320
Speaker 1: I didn't know who he was, I just but then

1660
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:35,640
Speaker 1: I knew. I knew he was Latino. I was like,

1661
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:41,800
Speaker 1: we got one. That's it, that's it because be just

1662
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:44,560
Speaker 1: so you know. At that same time, Big El is

1663
01:41:44,600 --> 01:41:48,840
Speaker 1: my favorite rapper, digging in the Crazy Crew. That's my

1664
01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:52,080
Speaker 1: brother too. My other favorite rap was a member of

1665
01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:54,920
Speaker 1: two crews with the greatest rappers the old time. That's

1666
01:41:54,960 --> 01:42:02,160
Speaker 1: my favorite. We know it's got that. That's where I'm like,

1667
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:06,000
Speaker 1: this is it. Yeah, we got him, yea. I really

1668
01:42:07,120 --> 01:42:14,439
Speaker 1: it's just almost like chins chins angelists send him in evangelists. Good.

1669
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:18,680
Speaker 1: I knew Punning was great. I didn't know he was

1670
01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 1: the greatest until like after after his funeral. I remember

1671
01:42:25,360 --> 01:42:27,920
Speaker 1: me standing there and crying at the and God bless

1672
01:42:27,960 --> 01:42:31,439
Speaker 1: ther Dad flex flex Ts was the one who came

1673
01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:33,920
Speaker 1: and grabbed me because I didn't know what to do.

1674
01:42:34,080 --> 01:42:36,080
Speaker 1: Like I still started crying. My mother came to the

1675
01:42:36,479 --> 01:42:40,000
Speaker 1: keeper real without me. My mom said, my mom's didn't

1676
01:42:40,040 --> 01:42:44,040
Speaker 1: wait for me to come. Mother within man from the

1677
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:49,080
Speaker 1: boat danger like crazy. It was so crazy because the

1678
01:42:49,200 --> 01:42:52,240
Speaker 1: people who came to that funeral, you know, it was

1679
01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:56,200
Speaker 1: like crazy man like. It was like people that from

1680
01:42:56,240 --> 01:43:00,320
Speaker 1: our community that never even talk to us. Was you know,

1681
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 1: they were so proud they were showing up. And he

1682
01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:07,080
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, that's just my school teacher, you know.

1683
01:43:07,600 --> 01:43:09,720
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there crying and I walked by my

1684
01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:13,719
Speaker 1: school teacher come and grab me and like, yo, be strong.

1685
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:17,000
Speaker 1: This is that like we touched so many niggas in thathood.

1686
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:19,640
Speaker 1: It was crazy, but it was like that too. I

1687
01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:21,479
Speaker 1: never forget too. I was at one point I was

1688
01:43:21,520 --> 01:43:25,519
Speaker 1: at point funeral and I was crying and uh, it

1689
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:28,160
Speaker 1: was John Rule And I looked up and it was

1690
01:43:28,280 --> 01:43:31,400
Speaker 1: John Rule. He was there one dep too. He was like,

1691
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:34,360
Speaker 1: be strong, crack, don't where we be strong. And that ship,

1692
01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:38,320
Speaker 1: that Punch ship was serious man. And this is what

1693
01:43:38,439 --> 01:43:41,840
Speaker 1: I remember Flex grabbing me and just was like you

1694
01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:44,280
Speaker 1: he's not suffering no more the crazy y. I've never

1695
01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:47,479
Speaker 1: seen Pun suffer like when Pun. I never said, I

1696
01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:49,519
Speaker 1: know we can we're going too much, but we're gonna

1697
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:52,439
Speaker 1: stop it soon. But when Pun used to have sleep apana,

1698
01:43:52,760 --> 01:43:54,840
Speaker 1: like when he used to go like this, I used

1699
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:57,639
Speaker 1: to think Punt was playing with me, like God bless

1700
01:43:57,680 --> 01:44:00,040
Speaker 1: me because you know now I know. But back in

1701
01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:06,560
Speaker 1: nice like damn, my fucking stories is borried people to

1702
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:08,720
Speaker 1: like Yo, we would be talking like it was good.

1703
01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:17,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, let's just get Pun love Nori and Uh

1704
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:21,600
Speaker 1: in a different way, in a special way. And the

1705
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:24,439
Speaker 1: niggers used to hang out. They used to chill. We're

1706
01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:27,000
Speaker 1: still boy Joe. That's when Joe said, because Joe was

1707
01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:32,160
Speaker 1: always militant, like he's always he's to get money, dude,

1708
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:35,439
Speaker 1: Like that's all he thinks about me and Pun, we

1709
01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:37,840
Speaker 1: wanted to have fun. We was younger. You know what

1710
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:40,519
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Joe's al g it's a fact because we

1711
01:44:40,600 --> 01:44:44,360
Speaker 1: used to be on the road everything like and punning

1712
01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:47,439
Speaker 1: smoked weed. He drank cause like you know what I mean,

1713
01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:52,040
Speaker 1: like just like just started drinking, like really like you

1714
01:44:52,160 --> 01:44:56,880
Speaker 1: just started lesually drinking like so serious. He was like

1715
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:04,200
Speaker 1: like every day, like I'll tell my son this to us,

1716
01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:07,599
Speaker 1: said listen, bro we was born with nothing, my nigked

1717
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:10,400
Speaker 1: and if we get the opportunity to go get it,

1718
01:45:10,520 --> 01:45:13,120
Speaker 1: let's not stop, Nigga. Let's just go get it. And

1719
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:16,400
Speaker 1: we can't make it. We gotta go get this fucking money, man,

1720
01:45:16,479 --> 01:45:20,040
Speaker 1: because all the times we dreamed about getting money, all

1721
01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:22,640
Speaker 1: the times all we wanted was money. Niggas wouldn't give

1722
01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:26,160
Speaker 1: us a fucking ice cream. You know, we're starving. We

1723
01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:28,800
Speaker 1: get Nigga's got a chip in for four chicken wings

1724
01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:31,800
Speaker 1: and French fries. Now Nigga's just throwing this money at us,

1725
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:34,200
Speaker 1: Like what the fund is we supposed to do? Let's

1726
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:37,560
Speaker 1: go get this fucking money. And and and and and

1727
01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:40,280
Speaker 1: that's that's that. That's That's what I'm about. Right now,

1728
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:42,400
Speaker 1: I'm in the car with my sun rap. I'm in

1729
01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:45,120
Speaker 1: the car one am. I balked on him two minutes

1730
01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:47,799
Speaker 1: before I came here because he was like, yo, engine,

1731
01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:50,920
Speaker 1: ain't really doing it right there, Like nigga, you're fucking crazy,

1732
01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:55,920
Speaker 1: Like I'll be rapping in closets. We're gonna end this.

1733
01:45:57,680 --> 01:46:01,840
Speaker 1: Back in the days, you couldn't send them email. You

1734
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:05,120
Speaker 1: had to run around with two tapes like this. That

1735
01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:12,160
Speaker 1: that ship was like carrying a mitchet. Ye real, let

1736
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:14,280
Speaker 1: me tell you something I've never been to and this

1737
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:17,559
Speaker 1: is my engineer right here. Hasn't it sounds prod something grand?

1738
01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:20,640
Speaker 1: But has I have never had a session with you

1739
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:23,439
Speaker 1: unless I did four records? Keep it real, I'm gonna

1740
01:46:23,479 --> 01:46:26,080
Speaker 1: look away so like I'm not even you know, fine

1741
01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:29,639
Speaker 1: in my lying at least four at least at least

1742
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:33,400
Speaker 1: four because you know why, it's not because but back then,

1743
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:37,320
Speaker 1: spending fifteen hundred dollars on the lockout or three thousand

1744
01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:40,400
Speaker 1: dollars on the lockout, I had to do yo one

1745
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:44,639
Speaker 1: on this ship. I'm keeping it real. Seeing then War

1746
01:46:44,760 --> 01:46:47,960
Speaker 1: Report album was done over two years, but it was

1747
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:53,559
Speaker 1: only like five to seven sessions because we recorded eight

1748
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:56,280
Speaker 1: nine records when we went in there and you know,

1749
01:46:56,479 --> 01:46:59,280
Speaker 1: tragedy put us on here when you had this wave

1750
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:02,840
Speaker 1: man in your waves, like you know, special waves. But

1751
01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:05,960
Speaker 1: what it was, y'all nigga man, you could do whatever

1752
01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:10,840
Speaker 1: you wanted, nor nor you you're funny nigger. And then

1753
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:14,880
Speaker 1: it's like it's like it's like maybe he was bugging out,

1754
01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:17,760
Speaker 1: but to us it was like flows we never heard, right.

1755
01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:23,320
Speaker 1: The thing is, I'm not you know what the fuck is?

1756
01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:27,160
Speaker 1: This thing is saying this ship? You know what that

1757
01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:29,680
Speaker 1: came from? What was the joint you did? Um? And

1758
01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 1: we gotta go with what was the joint you did?

1759
01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:38,519
Speaker 1: I think it was in the firm. You know this?

1760
01:47:39,400 --> 01:47:43,600
Speaker 1: You know that was leaving. I'm leaving. I'm leaving. I

1761
01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:45,320
Speaker 1: can get the story of that. And then we break out.

1762
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:49,840
Speaker 1: But listen, it goes that it's that one, Mike, h No,

1763
01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:54,200
Speaker 1: we know this. We know that's the first because I'm

1764
01:47:54,320 --> 01:47:58,000
Speaker 1: leave the first. Yeah. And it was another one you

1765
01:47:58,120 --> 01:48:00,800
Speaker 1: did for nas right was it was a mob de

1766
01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:06,240
Speaker 1: it was blood money, blood money, money, the money, the

1767
01:48:06,320 --> 01:48:08,680
Speaker 1: one when we did that during the Firm album. Um,

1768
01:48:09,560 --> 01:48:12,080
Speaker 1: the Funnies ship. I'm not gonna lie to you from

1769
01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:14,080
Speaker 1: the outside, And I don't know if you know go

1770
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:16,880
Speaker 1: ahead tell me you was like the ellest nigger right there,

1771
01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:20,439
Speaker 1: like like right there when they snatched you up, because

1772
01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:22,800
Speaker 1: there was a big move for you and I no,

1773
01:48:22,960 --> 01:48:26,800
Speaker 1: I had just shot nigger the projects too, and it

1774
01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:29,240
Speaker 1: was like and I kept hanging out there. They was like,

1775
01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:33,160
Speaker 1: what this thing is? When left Cracker left Brackers money

1776
01:48:34,120 --> 01:48:38,920
Speaker 1: twenty minutes and I kept hanging out and I gotta

1777
01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:40,920
Speaker 1: I gotta give them love. The Jungle. Jungle was the

1778
01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:43,600
Speaker 1: dude like. Jungle was like, we're fucking want him. We

1779
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:45,600
Speaker 1: went to shoot up. You know what I mean. But

1780
01:48:46,680 --> 01:48:54,640
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is when they recruited you and you

1781
01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:57,800
Speaker 1: was just like it was so ill. I was just

1782
01:48:57,960 --> 01:49:00,040
Speaker 1: like and you know, and you know from them. My

1783
01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:03,880
Speaker 1: very first feature, my very first feature after that was

1784
01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:07,120
Speaker 1: the Pun the Record, My very first feature after that.

1785
01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:11,880
Speaker 1: I mean, um, you know Punt's first words he ever

1786
01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:14,920
Speaker 1: said to me what he said? Because I was in

1787
01:49:14,960 --> 01:49:16,600
Speaker 1: a session the first this is the first words you

1788
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:19,920
Speaker 1: ever said to me? You said, this is the first

1789
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:22,519
Speaker 1: words you ever said to me. You said, y'all cnn huh.

1790
01:49:22,840 --> 01:49:26,719
Speaker 1: He walked this unique studio, unique studios, think of walks

1791
01:49:26,760 --> 01:49:30,600
Speaker 1: in and then Pun wasn't he goes, y'all see in

1792
01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:33,320
Speaker 1: the huh. I'm like, you said, which one of your

1793
01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:36,760
Speaker 1: niggas got shot? And then Palm raised his hand and

1794
01:49:36,840 --> 01:49:39,600
Speaker 1: then y'all start up hearing gunshot rooms and ship. I

1795
01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 1: was like, this is very awkward. Home shows this ship

1796
01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:47,840
Speaker 1: then and then he goes which one of y'all's Puerto

1797
01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:50,479
Speaker 1: Weekend and I raised my hand and this is this

1798
01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:53,000
Speaker 1: is one hundred same facts. I was just like, because

1799
01:49:53,000 --> 01:49:55,840
Speaker 1: I've never met this nis. I love this nigger, but

1800
01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:57,479
Speaker 1: I don't want him to think I'm a sucker. He

1801
01:49:57,560 --> 01:50:00,400
Speaker 1: just walked in my studios, especially Blue told to walk

1802
01:50:00,479 --> 01:50:02,800
Speaker 1: over right, buck Wild is doing the beat maybe be

1803
01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:06,760
Speaker 1: buck Wild, and then Punk goes to me. He goes, yo,

1804
01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:10,000
Speaker 1: you brought the Rican and I go yeah. He goes,

1805
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:15,320
Speaker 1: so wipe the ice creall off, blah blah, because we're

1806
01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:19,200
Speaker 1: gonna be friends. And from that moment, you know, the

1807
01:50:19,280 --> 01:50:25,120
Speaker 1: nigga made me laugh. I was racist from that moment

1808
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:30,280
Speaker 1: and it was some of the best people I've ever met. Man, Joe,

1809
01:50:30,360 --> 01:50:33,120
Speaker 1: I really appreciate you. You have never left me. You know,

1810
01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:37,200
Speaker 1: You've always been there for me. The guard Ray Kwan,

1811
01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:43,760
Speaker 1: but just is his birthday, happy birthday, my brother. But

1812
01:50:44,240 --> 01:50:48,320
Speaker 1: Ray Kwan the chef before you leave, telling me friends

1813
01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:54,040
Speaker 1: top three friends and him never you don't sneakers. They

1814
01:50:54,160 --> 01:50:58,160
Speaker 1: jerked me, so I have he called me first. I

1815
01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:00,160
Speaker 1: was out of time. I said, now I'm gonna get him,

1816
01:51:00,160 --> 01:51:02,559
Speaker 1: and I never got him, but I really needed one.

1817
01:51:03,120 --> 01:51:06,599
Speaker 1: You got one? Are you gonna give me one? Yeah?

1818
01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:09,800
Speaker 1: I know? Before what can I say something? So I'm

1819
01:51:09,800 --> 01:51:13,680
Speaker 1: an underground wrapper. I'm with digging in the craze. I'm

1820
01:51:13,760 --> 01:51:16,479
Speaker 1: like on my first second out. I'm on my first album.

1821
01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:19,080
Speaker 1: I came out the same time as Woo Tank and

1822
01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:21,320
Speaker 1: I remember I was getting like three hundred show. I

1823
01:51:21,360 --> 01:51:27,000
Speaker 1: ain't know how they made money because it was fifteen niggas, right,

1824
01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:33,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm like, damn, I started counting thirteen niggas

1825
01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:36,640
Speaker 1: and ship he niggas must have got fifteen dollars, like

1826
01:51:36,880 --> 01:51:41,639
Speaker 1: like ship fuck up right? And then um, I remember

1827
01:51:41,720 --> 01:51:45,080
Speaker 1: who just super Blue and I wasn't big yet, and

1828
01:51:45,160 --> 01:51:47,599
Speaker 1: I remember I would any time I would call Ray

1829
01:51:47,720 --> 01:51:50,760
Speaker 1: Kuan and this nigg is like four platinum, I'll be like,

1830
01:51:50,840 --> 01:51:52,439
Speaker 1: you're way I need you. On the song to Night

1831
01:51:52,520 --> 01:51:55,720
Speaker 1: like fire Water. Ten minutes later, that nigger was in there.

1832
01:51:55,840 --> 01:51:59,479
Speaker 1: No funny staff kept the ten thousand with me. I

1833
01:51:59,520 --> 01:52:02,680
Speaker 1: remember one time I was in ray don't even remember this, Yeah,

1834
01:52:02,760 --> 01:52:05,280
Speaker 1: y'all don't remember this, but I was in Statnland. I

1835
01:52:05,360 --> 01:52:07,840
Speaker 1: had to show. I remember we had the studios, that

1836
01:52:08,479 --> 01:52:10,800
Speaker 1: we got the studio and that, but no, one time

1837
01:52:10,840 --> 01:52:13,360
Speaker 1: I had a show in the hood early on and

1838
01:52:13,439 --> 01:52:15,920
Speaker 1: I got into some ship with the with with the

1839
01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:18,880
Speaker 1: Statnlan niggas like it was about to pop off crazy

1840
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:22,040
Speaker 1: like yo funk, y'all talking about nigga nick is ready

1841
01:52:22,120 --> 01:52:25,360
Speaker 1: to pop off, and the guard ray Quorn, was like, Yo,

1842
01:52:26,200 --> 01:52:29,840
Speaker 1: it's my motherfucking brother man. That ship ain't going down here.

1843
01:52:30,040 --> 01:52:39,120
Speaker 1: Shut let's talking. That would change niggas calmed down that

1844
01:52:40,040 --> 01:52:42,760
Speaker 1: that ship ain't going down here, nigger. You know what

1845
01:52:42,840 --> 01:52:45,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But it was like you know, um so

1846
01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:49,200
Speaker 1: like Nori, I'm I'm gonna say top five because I

1847
01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:52,720
Speaker 1: got friends. You know what I'm saying. But I got

1848
01:52:52,840 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 1: you top five brothers, my brothers that I love. There's

1849
01:52:57,280 --> 01:53:00,600
Speaker 1: always kept it real with me. Top five friends. You

1850
01:53:00,880 --> 01:53:06,000
Speaker 1: and ray Kuannas in my top five friends brothers, you

1851
01:53:06,080 --> 01:53:08,639
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like not love you, not rapping,

1852
01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:11,639
Speaker 1: nothing to do with that, just like you're my brothers.

1853
01:53:11,680 --> 01:53:13,439
Speaker 1: You could call me at any time, Ray called me

1854
01:53:13,479 --> 01:53:15,400
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