1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology with 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:17,759 Speaker 1: tech Stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hello everyone, 4 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: and welcome to tech stuff. My name is Chris Polette 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: and I'm an editor of how stuff Works dot Com. 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: Sitting across from me as usual as senior writer Jonathan Strickland. 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: Resistance is useless. That was because of an honor of 8 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: our topic today, Yes, batteries. We're gonna talk about batteries. Now. 9 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: This kind of falls in line with some of our 10 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: earlier podcasts. You may remember our Basic Electronics podcast that 11 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: we did ages ago, and this kind of falls into 12 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: that same sort of category. We wanted to kind of 13 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: talk about what batteries are, how they work, and kind 14 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: of just sort of give you a basic understanding. Now, 15 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: the interesting thing about batteries is that it involves a 16 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: lot of chemistry. So we should have given this to 17 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: that science podcast. Well, part of the reason that I 18 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: suggested doing batteries, and so it sort of came to 19 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: me when I was working my way through a book 20 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: called Empires of Light, which is a um history of electricity. 21 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: Basically what by Jill I'm probably pronouncing your name wrong, 22 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: Jonas j o n. And he asked, may maybe even 23 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: be Jones. But it's really uh, wellly so far, I'm 24 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: about a third the way through. The book's really interesting 25 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: and they and uh As Jill started working through the 26 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: basics of the history of electricity. Part of the early history, 27 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: of course, involves batteries because we weren't exactly plugging stuff 28 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: into the wall. Uh, really much past the early part 29 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: of the last century, you know, a little bit into 30 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: the nineteenth century, but really it's a twenty and twenty 31 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: one century, you know. Yeah, And uh to add on 32 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: to that, I mean, I have an interest in batteries 33 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: because it helps explain how absolutely ridiculous the robots and 34 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: computer's plan was in the Matrix to turn humans into 35 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: giant batteries, because really that's an incredibly inefficient way of 36 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: getting your power supply. That's a very good point that 37 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: I hadn't thought of. Yeah, I didn't think you would have, 38 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: um because it really has no other bearing on this discussion. 39 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: It was just me trying to throw in yet another 40 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: reference to a science fiction film. By the way, I 41 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: still love that first Matrix movie. I just I refuse 42 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:37,839 Speaker 1: to acknowledge the other entries in that series. But let's 43 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: talk about batteries. Yes, and as it as it turns out, 44 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: batteries are quite old. Yeah. We're not talking about the 45 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: batteries in your closet. I mean those might also be 46 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: quite old. We're talking about the actual concept of batteries themselves. Yes. Um. 47 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: Actually one of the very first things that made me 48 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: think about it was the Layden jar, the reference to 49 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: the Laden jar and Empires of Light uh, which was 50 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: created created in Leyden in the Netherlands. UH professor Peter 51 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: van Mussen Muschenbrook and his friend Andrea s. Cuneus. We're 52 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,679 Speaker 1: working on an experiment in the mid eighteenth century, and 53 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: what they discovered was they could take a jar UH 54 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: line it with a metal film on the inside and 55 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: outside about the bottom two thirds of the jar UH, 56 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: and with an electrolytic liquid inside. They could put a 57 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: metal rod down into the jar with a with a 58 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: cork uh to to cap off the battery and it 59 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: would store an electrical charge. Was it turns out, uh. 60 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: You know, I had always heard of that as being 61 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: one of the very first examples of a battery, but 62 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: back in ninety eight, UM a an archaeologist, a German 63 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: archaeologist named will Wilhelm kronig Uh found a clay jar 64 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: UH containing a copper cylinder with an iron rod in it. 65 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: And apparently the people living in the area around Baghdad 66 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: had batteries as old as well. They think they're pretty 67 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: sure it's a battery. There's no proof, but the design 68 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: is very, very similar to the laden jar and these 69 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: existed as possibly as far back as two b c. Well, 70 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: what's interesting is they found those clay jars in a 71 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: giant stone statue in the shape of a rabbit carrying 72 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: an enormous drum. Okay, that's that's a lie, but you 73 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: may you may remember what Chris is talking about if 74 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: you if you're a fan of the show MythBusters. Yes, 75 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: MythBusters did an episode about these clay jars and whether 76 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: or not the devices themselves could be batteries. One of 77 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: the theories, or i suppose a hypothesis that was put forward, 78 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: was that these were part of a religious or spiritual 79 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: ritual in which you would feel a tingling sensation by 80 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: holding the these jars and you know, essentially completing a 81 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: circuit that you you would feel the that tingling as 82 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: the electricity moved through you because it was a very 83 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,559 Speaker 1: low voltage and a really low current, so it wasn't 84 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't going to actually cause damage. As I recall 85 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: on that episode, they ended up rigging the clay jars 86 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: they made with an actual electric circuit and shocked um 87 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: atom as I recall, and to a point where Adam 88 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: was very displeased. Uh, because it could have been potentially 89 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: very dangerous. But but yes, that's a good example. Those 90 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: those may very well have been batteries. Now what were 91 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: they powering? Probably not ancient iPods No. Um. According to 92 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: the BBC article that I found on it, which dates 93 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: back a couple of years. UM, it is possible that 94 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: they were being used for electroplating with gold. UM. Basically, uh, 95 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: you know, using the electric current to plate things with 96 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: a very very thin layer of gold or silver. Um. 97 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: There's no proof again that there's no documentation. Apparently the 98 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: instruction book is long gone um and um, but there 99 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: there are no the thing is what you were talking 100 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: about with the MythBusters show. Um, there's no wiring that 101 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: went along with it. So it doesn't appear as though 102 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: they were wired in a series and even with as 103 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: with the Leyden jar um, they found out that although 104 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: these these uh you know, we'll call them primitive I 105 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: guess batteries uh can store electricity, they can't store that much. 106 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:34,799 Speaker 1: The replicas of the clay jar uh batteries from the 107 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: Baghdad Fine generally produce around zero point eight two volts each. 108 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: But when you wire them in series or no, i'm sorry, 109 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: in parallel, in parallel, um, then you can produce a 110 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: much larger charge. It's just that they didn't find anything 111 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: like that. So they could have been used in a 112 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: religious ceremony to prove uh, the the deification of someone. 113 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: If you get the shock one time and you don't 114 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: the other time, I mean like, oh wow, this this power. 115 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: They have this power. Obviously they are divine in some 116 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: way or for electroplating. Both they both examples are kind 117 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: of interesting, but there's no right and uh And going 118 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: to what you said about series and and parallel, that's 119 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: a good thing to mention really quickly. Um, if you 120 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: are hooking up batteries in parallel, that means that you're 121 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: not hooking them in to end. They are all hooked 122 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: into a circuit of some sort, some sort of of 123 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: wiring pattern where UH, that increases the current that the 124 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: batteries are able to supply. If you link them in series, 125 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: which is essentially end to end, that increases the voltage 126 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: but not the current. So series is increase in volts, UH, 127 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: parallel is increasing current and in either case they do 128 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: not affect the other, right voltage, voltage is increased, current 129 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: remains the same, or current is increased, voltage remains the same. UM, 130 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: let's talk about another early battery, UH, the voltaic pile. Yes, 131 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: this was a battery that was built by Alessandro Volta 132 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: in eighteen hundred. And what Volta did was he discovered 133 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: that by creating layers of zinc, a some sort of 134 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: of of separator which he used blotting paper that had 135 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: been soaked in salt water and silver. Then I'm sorry, 136 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: silver was the other layer. So had zinc this blotting 137 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: paper that was soaked in brine essentially then silver, and 138 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: UH found that that would also allow a transfer of 139 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:41,439 Speaker 1: electricity if you created a wire between the top and bottom. 140 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: Not to argue with you, but in the research that 141 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: I did, Britannica said that it was copper and zinc. Well, 142 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 1: it may very well be In our article on our 143 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: site it says silver. We'll have to look into that, 144 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: and that's wrong. We'll have to fix it. Yeah, we 145 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: can fix it in our article that's where the wonderful 146 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: things about the Internet. Actually, they may in a way, 147 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: they may both be right, because these early experimenters were 148 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: trying a number of different metals. You see which ones 149 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: were more. They may both work. But obviously we know 150 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: that copper is an excellent conductor of electricity. Um, and uh, 151 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: it is possible that he could have built one that 152 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: way too. Yeah, it's actually it is true that you 153 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: can try various combinations of different metals. The most important 154 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: thing is that the metals have to have. Uh, you 155 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: have to have a positive electrode and a negative electrode. Right, 156 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: you have to have one metal where there's going to 157 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: be an excess of electrons. That means it's going to 158 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: be the negative one because electrons carry a negative charge. 159 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: That that would be the anode and the other ones 160 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: the cathode, which has the an absence of electrons, meaning 161 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: it has a positive charge. Now, as we know, negative 162 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: is attracted to positive and vice versas, so electrons want 163 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: to go where there is going to be a more 164 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: positive charge. They don't want to be where there's a 165 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: heavy negative charge because like repels like you know, as 166 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: far as charges go. So the trick here is to 167 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: create a situation where you have a negatively charged and 168 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: a positively charged electrode close to but not touching each other, 169 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: suspended in some sort of solution which we call the 170 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: electro light, which allows the passage of ions but does 171 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: not allow the passage of electrons to go between the two. 172 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: Then you hook the two up with a wire of 173 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: some sort which would create a pathway for electrons to 174 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: flow through. And you could actually do this yourself if 175 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: you really want. You can take a battery and put 176 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: a wire on one end and a wire on the 177 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: other end, the two terminals the negative and positive terminals, 178 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: and that would create the connection needed for the chemical 179 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: reaction to take place that produces electricity. It would also 180 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: kill your battery really quickly. Yes, um, you normally would 181 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: want to put a load on that wire, a load 182 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: being some sort of something being powered by that electricity, 183 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: like a light bulb would be a class one right yes, 184 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: or a fan or a motor or an iPod, right yeah, 185 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: And and So what happen is the the electrons from 186 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: the negative terminal would flow through the wire, would go 187 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: to whatever the load was on that wire, power whatever 188 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: it was, and then continue on the way to the 189 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: positive terminal. Now, once HiT's the positive terminal, the electrons 190 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: start to recombine with various ions that've been generated by 191 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: this chemical reaction within the battery. And depending on the 192 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: type of battery, it may mean that the battery is 193 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: slowly losing its ability to generate power and it won't 194 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: regain it and like once you use it, it's gone. 195 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: That's while a lot of the batteries are when you 196 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: go into like an electronic store and you're just buying 197 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: double A batteries or something along those lines, most of 198 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: the batteries fall into that category. I mean, you can't 199 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: get rechargeable batteries, and that's a totally different discussion. But 200 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: the in general, what we're talking about here is the 201 00:11:55,360 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 1: chemicals that are that make up the composition composition of 202 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 1: the battery, um the various electrodes. As this chemical reaction 203 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: happens within the battery and it generates these electrons and 204 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: the electrons recombine, uh, you lose more and more of 205 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: the active elements of that battery, until eventually the resistance 206 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: of the battery is so high that you are no 207 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: longer generating electrons or you know, you're not creating that flow. 208 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: That also explains why let's say that you have a 209 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: flashlight you've got you know, you leave the flashlight on, 210 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: you know how the flashlight eventually gets dimmer over very 211 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: gradual time frame and then eventually I'll just go out. Uh. Well, 212 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: that could be indicative of two things. One your lightbulb 213 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: could be burning out, or two the batteries are starting 214 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: to lose their their uh potency, the resistance within the battery, 215 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: because there is an internal resistance inside the battery. That 216 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: resistance grows as those chemicals get used up in these 217 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: reactions so that it's able to put out fewer electrons. 218 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: The voltage begins to drop, and that's why you start 219 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: to see that gradual depowering. Yeah, Volta saw that in 220 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: his voltaic pile. Um because basically what happened just sounds 221 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: so disgusting. UM because of course the salt water is 222 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: going to dry up and in the in the voltake 223 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: device and UM. At that point, the that the chemical 224 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 1: reaction is not going to take place anymore. But also 225 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: oxidation that's going on, what he said, because that actually 226 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: uses up the metal. I'm sorry i jumped ahead. I 227 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: didn't realize you were going to say that too. Yeah, 228 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: oxidation that the electrochemical reaction that happens inside of batteries, 229 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 1: an oxidation reduction reaction, which means that one of the 230 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: elements within that reaction is is oxidizing and one's reducing. 231 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: Now it's funny because reducing doesn't mean what you necessarily 232 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 1: think it means. It's actually the whole oxidation reduction thing 233 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: is one of those things that always confused me in 234 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 1: physics class um. But reduction is actually a gain of electrons. 235 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: An oxidation is a loss of electrons. That's why it's 236 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: That's why it's confusing, Right, you're reducing, but you're gaining electrons. 237 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: You're actually it's it's a whole thing. It also turns 238 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: into it's because you're you're needed to focus on the oxygen, 239 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: not the electrons, is the problem. But at any rate, 240 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: that's the kind of reaction that's going on. And yeah, 241 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: if you run one of these will take piles long enough, 242 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: the you kind of get this corrosive material that ends 243 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: up being unusable for batteries. By the way, you can 244 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: build your own voltaic pile. It's not very difficult at all. 245 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: Um In fact, let me give you a recipe. This 246 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: is a very easy way. Now, granted you're not gonna 247 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: be able to power anything with this necessarily, but you 248 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: might be able to detect the voltage. If you have 249 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: a very sensitive voltmeter, you might be able to to 250 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: to see how much charge you are creating. But what 251 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: you can do is you get some nickels, and you 252 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: get some pennies. Um Or you could use dimes and 253 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: pennies if you wanted to, but nickels and pennies are 254 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: pretty simple. And you get uh, some paper towels, and 255 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: you get some water and some salt. All right, you 256 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: create a solution with the water and salt. You put 257 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: as much salt as the water can hold in solution, 258 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: and then you soak the paper towels in that brine 259 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: solution you've created, and you start to build layers, and 260 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: you do a nickel, You do the paper towel, penny 261 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: paper towel, nickel paper towel, penny paper towel. The taller 262 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: you build that tower, the greater the voltage you will 263 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: generate UM and it should increase the same amount through 264 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: each each element of that bill take pile that you've 265 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: added each each three part element, the penny nickel and 266 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: paper towel layers UM and uh it's just a very 267 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: bowl simple uh um experiment you can do. You can also, 268 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: of course you probably have seen this. You can make 269 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: batteries other things like a potato. You have to use 270 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: the correct kind of electrodes. But if you put the 271 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: two electrodes within a potato close enough so that the 272 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: electron exchange can occur or the ion exchange I should 273 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: say can occur, but not so close that they're actually touching, 274 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: because then you just create a short circuit. The potato 275 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: will facilitate the electro light transition of ions. So you 276 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: can power like a tiny light bulb by light bulb, 277 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: I mean led light UM. And you can even hook 278 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: potatoes in series. And the best thing about this experiment 279 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: is after you are done lighting up your room with 280 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: l e d s powered by potatoes, you can have 281 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: French fries. There is there are some intermediary steps. By 282 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: the way, they don't l D s do not turn 283 00:16:55,120 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: potatoes into French fries. Belgians do. I'm a fretz. So 284 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: So anyhow, in doing research, Jonathan reminded me of this 285 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: Energizer you know, the battery company website, and uh, it 286 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: basically shows you an illustration of the different parts that 287 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: make up today's battery. And in some ways it's very 288 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: similar to those very early batteries. It's just more powerful 289 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: and and more efficient, but much more compact. Yes, that 290 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: that's true. Um also um like like as we were 291 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: talking before about the experiments done by the early philosophers 292 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: who were investigating batteries and electricity. UM, depending on the 293 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: manufacturer and the application, they may use different materials for 294 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: the cathode and anode and uh, you know, even the 295 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: electrolyte inside, depending on the purpose. Of course, they're always 296 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,479 Speaker 1: trying to get a better, more efficient battery. But in 297 00:17:55,520 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: the case of the Energizer battery, UM, the cathode is 298 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: the case which is made up of manganese dioxide mixture. Yeah. Yeah, 299 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: there's a there's a steel tube essentially, like that's that's 300 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: the outside of the battery, UM, and that that's part 301 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: of the cathode. So you've got that steel tube and 302 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: then which of course is capped on both ends. Uh, 303 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,719 Speaker 1: And then the interior of the tube is coated with 304 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: this manganese dioxide mixture. It's a powder and um and yeah, 305 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: that that's the the cathode. So that's carrying the the 306 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: what they call the positive electrical charge, which sounds so 307 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: confusing when you sit there and think, oh wait, electrons 308 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: are negative. But essentially this is the positive element, right, 309 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: This is what's generating the positive ions right right. And um, 310 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 1: of course, as in uh Volta's experiment, UM, you need 311 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: a separator UM which is made of an energizer's case 312 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: again a non woven fibrous fabric, and the website actually 313 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: says that the anode is made of powdered zinc. Ah. Okay. 314 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: So the the operator's job here is mainly just to 315 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: make sure that the anode and cathode do not touch, 316 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: because that would generate essentially a short circuit. You would 317 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: no longer have a working battery. It would be it 318 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: would It would just be useless, is what would be. 319 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: And it will also possibly generate a lot of heat. Yes, 320 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: think of it as the battery chaperone. Now you too, 321 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 1: art So anyway, the zinc acts as the the the anode, 322 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: that's the so that's this is the negatively charged um material. 323 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: And then you have the electrolyte, which is the potassium 324 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: hydroxide that is inserted in this. That's what's allowing the 325 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: facilitating the passage of ions between the anode and the 326 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: cathode um. And then you've got the positive terminal and 327 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: the negative terminal. You hook the you put out of 328 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: the right right, Yeah, outside the battery, So back to 329 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 1: the steel part. You've got a positive terminal and negative terminal. 330 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: Oh and I forgot, there's a collector. A collector. Yeah, 331 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: there's a brass pen that is inserted the The base 332 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: of the brass pin acts as the negative terminal, so 333 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: that's where all the electrons are coming through. But the 334 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:15,719 Speaker 1: brass pins job is to act as a conduit for electrons. 335 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: So so at the very center of an energizer battery 336 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: is this brass pin. You hook the plug your battery 337 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: into whatever device you're talking about, you know, like a 338 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: flashlight will stay with that. The electrons will go through 339 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 1: the negative terminal, through the circuitry of the flashlight, powering 340 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: the bulb, and then back in through the positive terminal, 341 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: and through that process, the manganese dioxide and the zinc 342 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: are going to start turning into this these inert forms 343 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: where they are no longer charged one way or the other. 344 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: And uh, eventually you start to run out of the 345 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: active components and you've got a dead battery. Right. Also 346 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: keep in mind, just gonna throw this out there. Remember 347 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: electricity flows one way, current flows the other way, because 348 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: Benjamin Franklin thought that current was carried by positively charged particles, 349 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: not negatively charged. Once, as it turns out, the answer 350 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 1: was negative. So anyway, so that just happened. But yes, 351 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 1: the Energizer web page does have very helpful illustrations and 352 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: animations kind of showing you not just how the batteries work, 353 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: but how Energizer builds these batteries, the various elements that 354 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: go into it, and exactly what happens while you're powering 355 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: the device. So it's um, it's it's a nice little 356 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: uh website kind of a tutorial. Um, if you want 357 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: a more visual element to this discussion. Yeah, and it 358 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: really gets into how uh Energizer makes alkaline batteries, which is, 359 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: you know, basically this the standard type that you find 360 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: on the on the counter at your local store. Now, 361 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: there are other kinds. Of course, we mentioned chargeable batteries, 362 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: but there are are lithium batteries UM, which are a 363 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: little weird according to UH, to the research I had 364 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 1: done on Britannica UM, there is no separator between the 365 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: anode and a liquid cathode. UH. But as but a 366 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: a layer automatically forms on the lithium, which basically makes 367 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: it its own separator. UH. This, this layer as it 368 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 1: forms is I guess as it's being used, was at 369 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: least my understanding of that UM. And that allows a 370 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: much more high power density, which is why you see 371 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: them the lithium batteries advertised as a more powerful battery 372 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: for applications such as cameras, digital cameras. I see them 373 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: often advertised in that for that particular application because they 374 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: have a higher power density. But it have a longer 375 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: shelf life. Yeah, they do, they do, and it's apparently 376 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: because of the metals used inside. They're also more expensive. Yeah, 377 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: these are the kind of batteries. The small ones are 378 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: the kinds that power things like UM like electric hearts. 379 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: You want, you want a battery that's gonna last a 380 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: really long time for that kind of thing. Clearly, you 381 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: don't want to have to pop open, pop it open 382 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: and switch the nine vold out every couple of weeks. 383 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: That would be irritating. But yeah, there's there's carbon, zinc batteries, 384 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: zinc chloride, there's um mercury batteries, silver oxide batteries, zinc 385 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: air batteries, and there's lots of different types. And all 386 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: the ones I just named were non rechargeable batteries. So 387 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: you know what, I think we should probably do another 388 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: episode in the future about rechargeable batteries as well as 389 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: a kind of a discussion about some of the things 390 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: that can happen when batteries go wrong. Yeah, I think 391 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: I think that would be, uh, that would be very good. Now, 392 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: of course, uh, you know, it's possible that an alkaline 393 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 1: battery will if you leave it in a device for 394 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: too long, it will eventually corrode. Yes, but there are 395 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: other instances to like car batteries, and the chemicals inside 396 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: batteries can be caustic, so you don't and you've got 397 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: to remember that the steel canisters that surround the batteries 398 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: keep that those those elements under pressure, not the Queen 399 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: uh David Bowie song. However I am singing and now 400 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: I am too. It's a terror of knowing what those 401 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: world is about. But anyway, the the batteries keep that 402 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: those elements under pressure, and if you puncture it then 403 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: you could get squirted by some caustic stuff. So you 404 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: don't want to do that. You don't ever want to 405 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: you know, break batteries open or anything like that. And 406 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: there's also the corrosive element where if the battery is 407 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: left for too long, that can happen. Um Also things 408 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: like if a battery gets too cold, it can take 409 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 1: a really long time for those chemical reactions to start 410 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: up because they often are affected by heat. And if 411 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: it's too warm, um, it may not it may have 412 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: already like that, it may not perform as well. Either. 413 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: There's usually a range of temperatures at which a battery 414 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: is optimal, and then outside that range you're gonna get 415 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: a decrease in performance. But in general, like if you've 416 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: ever heard if you want your batteries to last longer, 417 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: put them in the freezer, don't do that. It's a 418 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: bad idea. No, that's not a good idea at all. 419 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's wrap up this initial discussion of batteries. 420 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: We can revisit the topic in the future and talk 421 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: about some of the other issues and problems that we 422 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: run into, as well as how can a battery be 423 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: recharged if you're using up these chemicals. It's actually pretty interesting. Yeah, 424 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: I agree. I was actually surprised by the answer. Yeah. Yeah, 425 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: it turns out it is not magic um and that 426 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: means io Chris a coke. Unfortunately, we have them for 427 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: free here, so I'm not out any money, uh, Jonathan, 428 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: And um, actually this was just handed to me. It 429 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: looks like how stuff works dot Com now has an 430 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: iPhone app. See it's awesome. Yeah. Actually, um, I got 431 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: to take a look at this earlier. And guys, this 432 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 1: is pretty cool. The iPhone app is sort of a 433 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: way to integrate all the cool stuff we do at 434 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: how stuff works dot com. 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