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Speaker 1: UH again. An article here from Cynthia Freeland are UH.

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Speaker 1: She has the NFL's most underappreciated players. Oh, look at

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Speaker 1: the A f C. So I thought we'd run through

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Speaker 1: that list right underappreciated players. This from an analytics standpoint,

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Speaker 1: makes Cynthia makes analytics fun. It certainly does right now,

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Speaker 1: but she finds ways to it. I mean the analysis

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Speaker 1: computer analyzation and it's interesting. So for the Ravens, the

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Speaker 1: most underappreciated player is Chuck Clark. Yeah. I mean he

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Speaker 1: So if they're shopping him, somebody should be interested. For

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Speaker 1: that's the name you want to hear around here. You know,

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Speaker 1: I disagree with it just a little bit for the

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Speaker 1: Browns at Jeremiah as Korma. I don't know, he's underappreciated. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean underrated, underappreciated, or words that made more sense

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Speaker 1: I mean he flashed in quite a big way as

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Speaker 1: For the Texans, that's probably a tough one. Marlon Mack.

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Speaker 1: and her pick is pet Firemouth. I mean one point

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Speaker 1: is the time to pay him. He gets a big

425
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Speaker 1: chunk now because you knew he weren't gonna be paying

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Speaker 1: your quarterback. And then he's capped friendly after this point,

427
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Speaker 1: which is really nice to have one of the best,

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Speaker 1: you know, the defensive player of the year on our

429
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Speaker 1: very cost controlled time going into his prime years. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: same thing next year for what and and Cam Heyward.

431
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Speaker 1: Now Cam Haywards contract goes up to twenty two point

432
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Speaker 1: million dollars. Next year, Watts goes down a little bit

433
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Speaker 1: to twenty seven point one, but not about four million dollars,

434
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Speaker 1: which my hunch will be the twelfth ranked defensive player

435
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Speaker 1: at that point. There's something along those lines, because yeah,

436
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Speaker 1: which isn't bad. But the beauty of it all as

437
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Speaker 1: they have almost sixty million dollars in cap space. Yes,

438
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Speaker 1: it's a ton and a lot of guys on two

439
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Speaker 1: year deals, I mean a lot. And that's with a

440
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Speaker 1: lot of players back. That's still with Watton, Hayward and

441
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Speaker 1: Miles Jack under contract, chooch a core for it people,

442
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Speaker 1: all their signings from this offseason basically a two year deals. Yeah,

443
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Speaker 1: Rabinsky is still under contract. I mean, if you know,

444
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Speaker 1: if you know, if he gets passed by Kenny Pickett

445
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Speaker 1: this year, he's still very tradeable with it with a uh,

446
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Speaker 1: he would he would essentially be treating Mitch Robinsky as

447
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Speaker 1: base sellers eight million dollars. For example, Let's say this

448
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Speaker 1: was a year from now, and a team like the

449
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Speaker 1: situation that Seattle or Carolina is in right now. Absolutely

450
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Speaker 1: they'll give you something for an eight billion dollars Robinsky,

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Speaker 1: They probably get a fourth or fifth roundraft pick easily, maybe,

452
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Speaker 1: especially if put good tape out. I mean if it's

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Speaker 1: a year from now and he put out you know,

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Speaker 1: five games, and then you replaced him or whatever, or

455
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Speaker 1: and you're in the the Carson Wentz Yeah, yeah, he

456
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Speaker 1: got two thirds for wins. Yeah, I mean, what's the

457
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Speaker 1: guy he was two years ago? You like, you're looking

458
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Speaker 1: at Carson went School and he might be done. He

459
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Speaker 1: might be done, right. I can't believe they gave up

460
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Speaker 1: that much for him. So the quarterback, I mean Donald

461
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Speaker 1: after terrible years with the Jets, got a second for them. Yeah,

462
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 1: and it never had any good tape, So real quick

463
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Speaker 1: on miles before. I want to talk more salary cap.

464
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Speaker 1: But I was sitting here whenever he came off the field,

465
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Speaker 1: and he was very anxious to talk to those two.

466
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Speaker 1: But he also had a meeting, so he was very conscientious.

467
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Speaker 1: It wasn't like I'll get to the beat and I

468
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Speaker 1: get good. But he sprinted out of here as soon

469
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Speaker 1: as he was done with it, and he was really

470
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Speaker 1: excited to be here right right. You could tell that

471
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Speaker 1: he was appreciative and excited about being a Steeler. That

472
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Speaker 1: that rubbed off the second he sat down. I don't

473
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Speaker 1: know that that Jacksonville situation was real good last year

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Speaker 1: off for it before that or the year before and

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Speaker 1: the year he inherited. Yeah, you know, I think it's

476
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Speaker 1: a very eye opening experience for him because James Daniels

477
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Speaker 1: and to a lesser extent, Cole All mentioned, boy, you

478
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Speaker 1: can understand why this team wins. You know, this is

479
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Speaker 1: not what I was used to. You know, it's the

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Speaker 1: environment and the expectations and things like that. And night

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Speaker 1: and Dave from Jacksonville. The really interesting thing about the

482
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Speaker 1: Steelers offseason to me is that both the Kellow Weatherspoon

483
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Speaker 1: and Levi Wallace were signed to the exact same deal. Yeah,

484
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Speaker 1: that is interesting. You think you do one or the other, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And you know you're seeing that play out on the field.

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Speaker 1: You know, Weatherspoon is um getting more of the of

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Speaker 1: the of the run right now because he's the incumbent guy.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know, Wallace's played more than him in

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Speaker 1: his career. Yeah, I'm just talking about here though. He's

490
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Speaker 1: more you know, in tune with what's going on in

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Speaker 1: the defense. Uh. And he's certainly finished the season really strong. Yeah. Absolutely. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know so, I think that's really interesting that those

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Speaker 1: two they value those two guys the same. I think

494
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Speaker 1: their roles are gonna be real similar ideally ones on

495
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Speaker 1: the left, ones on the right. Sutton's in the middle,

496
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Speaker 1: and they both have length, they both have some physicality.

497
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Speaker 1: They have the ball to the ability to take the

498
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Speaker 1: ball away about the same age, about the same size,

499
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Speaker 1: exact same expense. Great, you know, yeah, yeah, no problem

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Speaker 1: with that. Yeah. So it's it's interesting the way they

501
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Speaker 1: built that that cap this year that I mean, all

502
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Speaker 1: these guys. This is the great thing, you know when

503
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Speaker 1: you say, well they've got fifty eight million. Yeah, but

504
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Speaker 1: they got a sign guys. The beauty of it is,

505
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Speaker 1: you just signed guys the contracts like what they did

506
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Speaker 1: this year, and it doesn't You can sign a bunch

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Speaker 1: of them. You can sign a bunch of them again,

508
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Speaker 1: you could. I'm sure Manco will get a deal that

509
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Speaker 1: will eat into next year's captives. You sign your stars

510
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Speaker 1: to the big deals you signed the lesser guys. I

511
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: think the NFL is learning this to two or three

512
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Speaker 1: year deals, you don't go you don't go to these

513
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Speaker 1: four and five year deals with guys in free agency

514
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Speaker 1: that that you are good players but not great players

515
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Speaker 1: and give them because then you end up cutting them

516
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Speaker 1: and end up cutting them. Right. The big this mistake

517
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: and you mentioned Jacksonville. They're so notorious for this and

518
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: they may not have learned for their mistakes is paying

519
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: starters like stars or a dollar player. Yeah, and it's

520
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,959
Speaker 1: just bad business because you always end up cutting them

521
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: in a year or two and then you have dead money.

522
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: And you know, it's never a clean break. Yeah, And

523
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: these situations are all clean breaks if they don't work

524
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: out right, right, so you prepare for the good and

525
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 1: the bad. Yeah. I think that the Steelers have set

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Speaker 1: them up cells up nicely here in this offseason, um,

527
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: no doubt, and still have twelve million dollars in cap

528
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: space available, right, I'm gonna say they can money. And again,

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Speaker 1: you know, this is a time of year where a

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Speaker 1: lot of teams are up against it because they're still

531
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Speaker 1: signing their draft picks. They want to keep three, four

532
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: or five six million dollars for in season moves. So

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Speaker 1: if you're one of the teams that have a little

534
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Speaker 1: bit of monopoly money left, you're not fighting against other

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Speaker 1: teams for free agents or a guy that's gonna get

536
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Speaker 1: traded or whatever. So they're really sitting pretty going forward

537
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: with the cap. They didn't they didn't, you know, blow

538
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 1: their load and throw it, throw it all on one

539
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: thing and didn't work out. I mean, it's been very

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00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: well planned and thought out. Yeah. Absolutely, we're gonna take

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Speaker 1: our final yeah, take our final break here of the show,

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Speaker 1: and we'll come back and finish up this special edition

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Speaker 1: of The Drive live from the O T A. S

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Speaker 1: here at the U P M. C rooney Sports Complex.

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Speaker 1: He has Matt Williams and I am Dale Lolly. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back with more right after this. Welcome back on

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Speaker 1: Dale Ally here with Matt Williamson live from the UPM

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Speaker 1: c reoney Sports Complex. And then Matt, I thought to

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Speaker 1: finish up of the show today, we talked about an

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00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: article that was on the It's on CBS Sports dot

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Speaker 1: Com here by Jared Durbin and he ranks the top

552
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: uh the It's the um triplets for each NFL team

553
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: and puts them in tears and so at thirty two

554
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: this would be quarterback running back and then receiver top

555
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Speaker 1: receiver of some sort. So at thirty two he is

556
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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons. Uh, he's Marcus Mariotta, Kardill Patterson, Kyle Pitts. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty low. I can't argue that. No.

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00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: I mean, Pits carries a lot of weight for me,

559
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: but he has a little unproven The two of those

560
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: guys are one year wonder type, get do it again.

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00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: I don't trust Patterson much. Thirty one is Seattle with

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Speaker 1: Gina Smith or Shot Penny and DK Metcalf, Gino Smith

563
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Speaker 1: part and Penny's very young. I mean he's also like

564
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Speaker 1: a one year wonder too. At thirty is the Bears.

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00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: That's Justin Fields, David Montgomery, Darnell Mooney. Yeah, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of youth. Montgomery is your best guy, like Metcalf's

567
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Speaker 1: better Montgomery. Pitts a better Montgomery, you know. Yeah. At

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Speaker 1: twenty nine is the Houston Texans. That's Davis Mills, Marlon

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Speaker 1: mac Brandon Cooks. It's all very good. Yeah, I mean

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00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: it could be Pierce again. They're better than they were.

571
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: They got guys like Nico Collins and guys like that,

572
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: or it could be ascending. But and I like Mills.

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00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: That's Tier seven. That's the really okay, they're all about

574
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: the same. Tier six is not awful but not great.

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Speaker 1: That's twenty eight The Giants, Daniel Jones, Sake, Kwon Barkley,

576
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: Kenny Golliday. I don't even know if I picked Holiday

577
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: as the receiver a right, that could hit big or

578
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: that could be a disaster. But if Barkley is awesome,

579
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: all those guys have missed a lot of time. What

580
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: if it's Tony or Shepherd or you know, Wandell Robinson

581
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,479
Speaker 1: or you know. Twenty seven is the Jets. That's Zach Wilson,

582
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: briest Haw, Garrett Wilson. Well, two of those guys are rookies.

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00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: Two those guys rookies, and Wins the second year guy. Yeah,

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00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: I mean it could be really good, could be awful, Yeah,

585
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: I say that. But the peripheral guys aren't bad either.

586
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: Corey Davis put the Giants ahead of the Jets. I

587
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: think I would too. I mighta put Elijah Moore ahead

588
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: of Wilson too, I've seen him. You know. Twenty six

589
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: is the Carolina Panthers, Sam Donald, Christian McCaffrey, d J.

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00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: Moore two thirds of it's great, Yeah, two thirds of

591
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: it is really good. And then Donald, Yeah, that's kind

592
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: of like Seattle. Yeah. At twenty five are the Steelers,

593
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: Mitch Robinsky, Najia Harristy Ante. Again, sorry about the way

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Speaker 1: of technical problems, but we were talking about these tiers

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Speaker 1: here in the uh uh Jared Durban head the Steelers

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Speaker 1: at twenty five on his list of triplets here. Yeah,

597
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: I think we were going through here that the tree

598
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Speaker 1: is the Detroit Lions ahead of them with Jared Goff

599
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Speaker 1: DeAndre with T J. Hawkinson. Um, I just look at

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Speaker 1: the dynamic part portion of that, and I get you know, uh,

601
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Speaker 1: you know, Goff Hawkinson is a good player. I like

602
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: Hawkinson is is a player, but he's also a tight end.

603
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: He's also a tight end, you know, and unless you're

604
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Speaker 1: a special special tight end, you're not gonna be his

605
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Speaker 1: dynamic And he's not. He's not Kelsey. No, he's not Kelsey.

606
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Speaker 1: You're a Kiddle or wrong or somebody like that. And

607
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: and again, you know, I think they want Jamison Williams

608
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: to be that guy. And we continue to have our

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Speaker 1: technical issues here. So we're gonna sign off for the

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Speaker 1: day here live from Steelers O TIS here at the

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Speaker 1: Rooney U p mc rooney Sports Calm. Like Matt, another

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Speaker 1: interesting day, but yeah, it's good to see, uh football

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Speaker 1: players live doing football stuff and all that good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Good environment on here, give the locker rooms, all that stuff,

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Speaker 1: talking in person, all that good stuff. A lot of normalcy,

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Speaker 1: a lot of normalcy. And so we'll continue that next week.

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Speaker 1: But for my partner Matt Williamson, I am Dale Alli.

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