Speaker 1: You're listening to Comedy Central. Barry Bonds is being considered
Speaker 1: for the Baseball Hall of Fame. A lot of people
Speaker 1: are now asking the question, should you be in the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame if you were busted taking performance and
Speaker 1: hansome drugs. Yeah, it's a deep question. You know what.
Speaker 1: I think people should be discussing less than the Basketball
Speaker 1: Hall of Baseball Hall of Fame. People should be talking
Speaker 1: about the Hall of Shame for every sport because people
Speaker 1: forget that a ton of athletes take all of these
Speaker 1: performance and haunts and drugs and they don't do ship afterwards.
Speaker 1: Those are the people we should be going after. You
Speaker 1: took drugs and no highlights. You're out here in these streets,
Speaker 1: you just like you're injecting yourself and nothing, striking out,
Speaker 1: walking off nothing. Those are the people we should be
Speaker 1: going after in the sport out here spoiling. Imagine how
Speaker 1: much time of our lives has been wasted by athletes
Speaker 1: who dope and did nothing. Those are the people that
Speaker 1: the sporting federations should go after. If you're gonna take
Speaker 1: stories and hit home runs, I'm for you because you
Speaker 1: did it for my entertainment. I like watching home runs.
Speaker 1: You're gonna take steroids and then missed the ball. I
Speaker 1: could have missed the ball with no steroids. Now you
Speaker 1: just spoiled the sport for no reason. Coming to you
Speaker 1: from the heart of Times swear in New York City.
Speaker 1: It's the only city in America. It's The Daily Show.
Speaker 1: Here's edition tonight. Fine dropped the mine? Music? Is how
Speaker 1: this be? And w come out about? This is the
Speaker 1: Daily Show with Trevor Noah. Hey, what's going on? Everybody?
Speaker 1: Welcome to The Daily Show. I'm Trevor Noah and joining
Speaker 1: me for today's headlines is Michael Costa. What's going on? Michael?
Speaker 1: How you doing okay? You know it's kind of a January. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's dark out, it's cold. You know, I just got
Speaker 1: my holiday credit card bills. It's just kind of downtime.
Speaker 1: I was thinking maybe it would be nice if for
Speaker 1: you and for the viewers, if I started the show
Speaker 1: with with a fun, lighthearted fact. Oh and that was it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, wouldn't that be I don't have one, but
Speaker 1: wouldn't that be nice? It would be good. It would
Speaker 1: be a good way to start things. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think you you took because now I got depressed thinking
Speaker 1: about your bills and the darkness and the it would
Speaker 1: have been. It would be great if you started with
Speaker 1: something lighthearted going forward. That's what we'll do, my man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you think of these things. All right. Let's
Speaker 1: jump right into today's headlines. We kick things off with
Speaker 1: Joe Byron, the president who puts the hip in hip replacements.
Speaker 1: Like most presidents, Biden has a complicated relationship with the media,
Speaker 1: which I get. You know, they nitpick everything, he says.
Speaker 1: They challenge all of his decisions, and they even get
Speaker 1: their own room in his house, which is insane. Nobody
Speaker 1: else has to set aside a guest room for their haters. Well, yesterday,
Speaker 1: Biden's true feelings about at least one remember of the
Speaker 1: press slipped out. On Monday, when a Fox News reporter
Speaker 1: asked him a question about inflation, Mr Biden fired off
Speaker 1: an insult Sable Deucey says. President Biden later called him
Speaker 1: to clear the air and to say his comments were
Speaker 1: not personal. Within about an hour of that exchange, he
Speaker 1: called my cell phone and he said, it's nothing personal, pal,
Speaker 1: And we went back and forth and we were talking
Speaker 1: about just kind of moving moving forward and I made
Speaker 1: sure to tell him that I'm always going to try
Speaker 1: to ask something different than what everybody else is asking,
Speaker 1: and he said, You've got to and that's a quote
Speaker 1: from the President, So I'll keep doing it. You see,
Speaker 1: this is what happens when you've been on zoom calls
Speaker 1: for two years. You forget that real life doesn't have
Speaker 1: a mute button. Son of a bitch? Was that alloud? Sorry?
Speaker 1: Now a lot of people are asking if Biden even
Speaker 1: knew that the microphone was on, but guys, please come on, right,
Speaker 1: he's sitting there talking into a giant microphone, so there's
Speaker 1: at least as he knew it was there. And a
Speaker 1: lot of people online are dunking on the reporter saying
Speaker 1: that he deserved this because he's just some Fox News
Speaker 1: guy asking a dumb question, and they're right. You know,
Speaker 1: do you think inflation is a political liability is a
Speaker 1: very stupid question. I mean, what's Biden is supposed to say? No,
Speaker 1: I think people like spending more money to buy the
Speaker 1: same ship. I mean, if you get to ask the
Speaker 1: presidents a question, you should ask him real questions, like
Speaker 1: why can't the CDC get its messaging straight on covid
Speaker 1: or can you ask your dog to stop chewing my arm?
Speaker 1: And because of this moment, there are many people who
Speaker 1: are saying that this shows that Biden and Trump treat
Speaker 1: the press with the same level of animosity. And I'm sorry, guys, no,
Speaker 1: I can't accept that. I cannot believe that people would
Speaker 1: even say something so disrespectful about my man, Donald jiu
Speaker 1: Jitsu Trump. First of all, he wouldn't mumble that into
Speaker 1: a hot mic, so he would screen that ship into
Speaker 1: your face. He'd be like, get that son of a
Speaker 1: bit out of here. So rude, so rude. My crimes
Speaker 1: are my business. Biden dropped one offhanded dishonor reporter. He's
Speaker 1: no legend. Attacking the press was Donald Trump's whole thing.
Speaker 1: You remember that guy ship. You can't compare these two.
Speaker 1: It's like comparing Steph Curry to a random guy who
Speaker 1: makes one half court shot during halftime show some respect.
Speaker 1: Compare him to Trump, can you imagine? Yeah? I know,
Speaker 1: but you know you gotta know about the hot mics, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta know. That's when I'm on the show here,
Speaker 1: you know, I know that if I want to talk
Speaker 1: some ship, I gotta cover up my mic and our
Speaker 1: audio guy he put for me. He puts it on
Speaker 1: my on my wrist, so I cover it up and
Speaker 1: I can say to you, our audio guys sucks. You
Speaker 1: know that, right, is one of the worst audio guys
Speaker 1: I've ever met in show biz. I'm embarrassed. But then
Speaker 1: once you pull it up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He can't he couldn't hear anything, right, My boy sucks. Right,
Speaker 1: he's what It's great, dude, See what I'm saying. The yeah, yeo,
Speaker 1: this ship works all the time. He's a clown. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Right, you got him, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Hey, no one else heard that. So that's
Speaker 1: how I stay alive in this biz, dude. And You've
Speaker 1: got a long career ahead of you. All right, let's
Speaker 1: move on to the Winter Olympics. You know, it's that
Speaker 1: time of the year when we all sit on our
Speaker 1: couches and critique athletes doing sports we just learned existed.
Speaker 1: We are now a few weeks away from seeing our
Speaker 1: favorite athletes sliding down an icy track head first, and
Speaker 1: also freake first, and also crammed inside a giant dildo.
Speaker 1: But it seems like The main event of these Olympics
Speaker 1: will be fending off COVID, and right now China is
Speaker 1: doing everything it can to win the gold with a
Speaker 1: winner games less than two weeks away. Cities across China
Speaker 1: are scrambling to contain COVID outbreaks, and officials in Beijing
Speaker 1: now urging local districts to stay in what they call
Speaker 1: full emergency mode. Authorities are tracking down anyone in the
Speaker 1: city who has bought medicine in recent weeks that could
Speaker 1: be used to treat fever or other symptoms, even something
Speaker 1: as simple as i'd be proofen, and sending text messages
Speaker 1: ordering them to get COVID tests. Entire buildings are being
Speaker 1: locked down, sometimes without warning to the people inside. You know,
Speaker 1: China does not play games. I mean they will in
Speaker 1: two weeks, but not now. Can you imagine that? Can
Speaker 1: you imagine your building being locked down without any warning,
Speaker 1: no warning, nothing, especially just after you've broken up with someone. Well,
Speaker 1: guess what, Sheila, we're through. And by the way, I
Speaker 1: slept with your sister. Yeah. Look, we all said a
Speaker 1: lot of things back there about sleeping with your sister,
Speaker 1: you know she but this is this is way too
Speaker 1: much oppression for the Winter Olympics. Can we agree on that?
Speaker 1: I mean some Olympics, Sure, oppress all you want, but
Speaker 1: you can't be locking people in their apartments for sports
Speaker 1: like curling. Even the curling athletes are like, guys, guys,
Speaker 1: we're just sweeping ice. Chill, chill. I don't know about you,
Speaker 1: but the story gave me perspective because Americans complain so
Speaker 1: much when a restaurant asks them to wear a mask.
Speaker 1: But then China will shut down your entire block because
Speaker 1: somebody bought advil. And I'll tell you now, nobody in
Speaker 1: Beijing is sitting inside their house like damn. This is
Speaker 1: just like communist New York because this is what real
Speaker 1: authoritarian control looks like. A government tracking your eyebu prof
Speaker 1: and purchases. That's not for the government to know. That's
Speaker 1: between you and your pharmacy and your credit card company,
Speaker 1: the Google ads off the you type in head hurt
Speaker 1: why but not the government. And by the way, if
Speaker 1: you're wondering how trying to cantrack every single person who
Speaker 1: has bought hyperproofen um, it's actually not that hard. They
Speaker 1: just follow the CVS receipts to their front door. You Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like we just had the Olympics. I just
Speaker 1: didn't watch an Olympics. Now you've asked me to not
Speaker 1: watch another Olympics. Right, it shouldn't go summer, winter, summer.
Speaker 1: I think we should just what are seasons, man, it's fluid.
Speaker 1: I think we should combine the winter and summer Olympics.
Speaker 1: Underwater bob sled, you know, rhythmic gymnastic archery, uh, figure skating, basketball,
Speaker 1: you know that would be I would watch that. The
Speaker 1: biathlon where you skate and shoot the targets. I heard
Speaker 1: it for this one in China. You don't shoot targets,
Speaker 1: you just shoot people who tested positive for COVID. I
Speaker 1: can't confirm that, but that's so I heard. Called the
Speaker 1: Olympic committee. Tell them called committee. I know you call
Speaker 1: them a lot so called. I text normally, but to
Speaker 1: till I'm calling it all right. Finally, let's get into
Speaker 1: some education news. Every American student knows about the s
Speaker 1: A T. Right, It's the only reason. You know what
Speaker 1: supercilious means. It means very sillious. For years now, many
Speaker 1: experts have been saying that the s A T isn't
Speaker 1: actually very useful, Yeah, that it doesn't predict how well
Speaker 1: students will do in college. It's biased against people of
Speaker 1: color and rich kids can just hire expensive tutors to
Speaker 1: take the test for them. But now the company that
Speaker 1: makes the test is saying, no, don't throw it out altogether.
Speaker 1: Maybe it just needs an upgrade. Yes, A teams going
Speaker 1: digital starting next year. Today, the College Board is announcing
Speaker 1: several changes for the entrance exam taken by millions of
Speaker 1: high school students each year. They'll be answering questions on
Speaker 1: a digital device for two hours instead of the current
Speaker 1: three hour paper tests. But students still do have to
Speaker 1: go to a school or testing center. The new test
Speaker 1: cannot be taken at home. As we take the test digital,
Speaker 1: we've been really focused on students access to technology. Students
Speaker 1: are gonna be able to use their own device or
Speaker 1: one issued by their school. Wow, this is so convenient.
Speaker 1: Soon high school kids are gonna be able to take
Speaker 1: the S A T S on the same device they
Speaker 1: use to browse TikTok, chat with their friends, block messages
Speaker 1: from Matt Gates. It's amazing. And I know this idea
Speaker 1: has its hate is I know the critics who are like,
Speaker 1: where is this gonna end? They made the S a
Speaker 1: T shorter they put it online pretty soon, it'll just
Speaker 1: be a BuzzFeed quiz called tell us your favorite Ninja
Speaker 1: turtle and we'll tell you if you're smart enough for Yale.
Speaker 1: This guy should host the show. I like him. But
Speaker 1: you know what, they actually might have a point because
Speaker 1: the S a T company they say that what they're
Speaker 1: gonna do for the test when it's digital is they're
Speaker 1: gonna block other tabs from popping up on the screen.
Speaker 1: You can't go anywhere. You can just do the test
Speaker 1: and the device will only have the test. I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: have you tried to block pop ups? Like you try
Speaker 1: to close that ad and the next thing you know,
Speaker 1: you buls deep in a rabbit hole of porn, sports, gambling, crypto.
Speaker 1: Why George Bush did leven? I mean it's all the
Speaker 1: things you're gonna learn in college, so I guess it works.
Speaker 1: But still more screen time for kids, that's what you're
Speaker 1: telling me. Look, the S A T is not relevant.
Speaker 1: I mean I didn't do great on my S A T.
Speaker 1: And my vocabulary is still extremely well, you know, I
Speaker 1: I understand and use words wonderfully, or as some others
Speaker 1: might call it, a necrophiliac. So it's not like it
Speaker 1: prepares kids to be successful. If you want to prepare
Speaker 1: American kids to be successful, teach them how to sing
Speaker 1: in a competition on TV or run through an obstacle course. Yes, powerful,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I feel you completely, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I really do. I know. I didn't need to tell you,
Speaker 1: but I didn't. I didn't crush the s A T.
Speaker 1: But I cry. I would have never known, I know,
Speaker 1: and I you know, I don't share that with people
Speaker 1: that often. But to reach the heights that I'm at, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, even though I sit beneath you pretty low. Actually, uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's remarkable because my s A T score was
Speaker 1: was pretty bad. And I guess that that really has
Speaker 1: shown that the s A T though sometimes shows, but
Speaker 1: in most cases not because I would have never known
Speaker 1: you did badly. And I don't share that with a
Speaker 1: lot of people. Yeah, And you know what, I don't
Speaker 1: think you should because there's no point in bragging, right,
Speaker 1: you just keep that between us. You got whatever you
Speaker 1: want to. You know what I didn't hold on. I
Speaker 1: didn't do great on the s A T. Thank you,
Speaker 1: all right, don't go away because when we come back.
Speaker 1: We're gonna look at why everyone in the music industry
Speaker 1: is fighting right now. You don't want to miss it.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Daily Show. Like cocaine and harmonies,
Speaker 1: beefs are an essential parts of the music business. Think
Speaker 1: about it, Tupac versus Beagi, the Dixie Chicks versus George Bush,
Speaker 1: Keith Richards versus mortality. And with so many new beefs
Speaker 1: going on in the music world right now, we figured
Speaker 1: it's about time to settle some of those scores in
Speaker 1: our brand new segments we call beef says alright, alright, everybody,
Speaker 1: this is our first beef check this out. In one corner,
Speaker 1: we got Neil Young, the godfather of grunge, the man
Speaker 1: with the heart of gold, the dude who owns your
Speaker 1: dad's CD show. He's going up against Spotify, the streaming
Speaker 1: servant that's paid artists thousands of cents over the years.
Speaker 1: Can't wait to see this beef hit it. Fans of
Speaker 1: Neil Young might soon have one less place to listen
Speaker 1: to his music. The rocker wants Spotify to remove his
Speaker 1: music from its streaming services due to the spread of
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen misinformation on Spotify's popular Joe Rogan podcast. In
Speaker 1: a statement, he said, quote, I am doing this because
Speaker 1: Spotify is spreading fake information about vaccines potentially causing death
Speaker 1: to those who believe that this information being spread by them. Now,
Speaker 1: he gave Spotify exacts and ultimatum, saying they can have
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan or Neil Young, but not both. Damn, Neil
Speaker 1: Young's got balls because yeah, he's popular, but he's going
Speaker 1: up against the guy who's so popular that he's the
Speaker 1: reason kids now have Horse de Warmer in their lunch boxes.
Speaker 1: I mean. At the same time, though, Spotify should think
Speaker 1: about this, think about who's going to leave a greater legacy.
Speaker 1: You know, in thirty years, what are people going to
Speaker 1: be slow dancing to at their weddings? And Neil Young
Speaker 1: ballad or clips of Joe Rogan being wrong about the vaccine.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's true that there's an increased risk
Speaker 1: of mild card dietist. I don't know. It actually kind
Speaker 1: of works now. Look to me, the outcome is clear
Speaker 1: between Neil Young and Spotify. The winner of this Beasus
Speaker 1: is guys who love to talk about how everything sounds
Speaker 1: better on vinyl. This is the perfect excuse for them
Speaker 1: to tell you, why are you listening to Spotify anyway?
Speaker 1: The bit rate totally ruins the dynamic range. Alright, let's
Speaker 1: stop the artist who soundtrack your quarantine. The empress of Evermore,
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift. She's been dropping albums almost every week, but
Speaker 1: according to the guy from that British band that wasn't
Speaker 1: the Oasis, she's not putting in enough work. Let's see
Speaker 1: the beech. Looks like there is some bad blood between
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift and Blur frontman Damon Albern. During an interview
Speaker 1: a recent interview with The Los Angeles Times, he claimed
Speaker 1: Swift doesn't write her own songs. He said writing music
Speaker 1: doesn't count if you co write, and that co writing
Speaker 1: is very different from writing well. Taylor swiftly hit back,
Speaker 1: slamming the musician on Twitter. She tweeted, I was such
Speaker 1: a big fan of yours until I saw this. I
Speaker 1: write all of my songs, my own songs. Your hot
Speaker 1: take is completely false and so damaging. You don't have
Speaker 1: to like my songs, but it's really messed up to
Speaker 1: try and discredit my writing. However, and later responded with
Speaker 1: an apology, saying he had a conversation about songwriting that
Speaker 1: was reduced to clickbait. He said he apologizes unreservedly and unconditionally,
Speaker 1: and said the last thing he would want to do
Speaker 1: is just credit Taylor Swift. Yo. That was the fastest
Speaker 1: ending beef of all time because one minute the dude
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, Taylor ain't shit, she doesn't write ship
Speaker 1: and also I'm sorry, Taylor, please don't hurt me, please,
Speaker 1: And I'm not surprised he realized how wrong he was.
Speaker 1: I mean, guys, she Swift is one of the most
Speaker 1: renowned lyricists of our generation. Meanwhile, Blood's most famous lyric
Speaker 1: is And by the way, by the way, people, there's
Speaker 1: no shame in co writing. Right, I'm not saying Taylor
Speaker 1: Swift does. I'm just saying there's no shame in co writing.
Speaker 1: Don't forget. Even God had co writers, al right. It
Speaker 1: was Matthew Mark Luke, John Bale helped with the Bible.
Speaker 1: And no one ever says God's fake. I mean except
Speaker 1: Ricky Javais, but he's going to hell anyway, so it
Speaker 1: doesn't count. Anyway. It's no surprise who the winner of
Speaker 1: the beefs is. Between Taylor Swift and Damon elbon Is,
Speaker 1: it's Jake Jillenhall. Yeah, you see, finally the heats is off.
Speaker 1: Now he's in the corner like, yeah, get that blood guy,
Speaker 1: and I keep the scoff all right. Next Beef, y'all,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Cardi B. The wappiest weapon the game.
Speaker 1: And thanks to her, beef for the YouTube blogger the
Speaker 1: Bow Deck Yellow Singer is about to see a lot
Speaker 1: more green. A legal victory for Cardi B. Yesterday, a
Speaker 1: federal judge awarded The Boat Yellow Singer more than a
Speaker 1: million dollars after Cardi sued blogger Tasha Ka for spreading lies.
Speaker 1: TMZ reporting that the court found the YouTube reliable on
Speaker 1: three separate counts. Now an issue was Tasha Ka saying
Speaker 1: that Cardi B once worked as a prostitute, did drugs,
Speaker 1: and contracted sexually transmitted infections. Yes, suit him, Cardi suit him.
Speaker 1: People gotta know, spreading lies about Cardi B is not OK.
Speaker 1: I'll show myself out what the very least, at the
Speaker 1: very least, if you're gonna lie, to be smart about it,
Speaker 1: all right, you're gonna talk about people, don't print them
Speaker 1: as allegations. That's libel. What you should do is at
Speaker 1: a beat. Now it's a distract. At the same time,
Speaker 1: the winning a million dollar judgment from a blogger isn't
Speaker 1: necessarily the payday that it sounds like, because I mean,
Speaker 1: what are they gonna do garnish her wages for the
Speaker 1: next seven years. But even though the courts declared Cardi
Speaker 1: be the winner of this beef, is the actual winner
Speaker 1: is my friend Pete, because you see, he said all
Speaker 1: the same ship about Cardi B but nobody reads his blog,
Speaker 1: so he didn't get sued. Alright, y'all, it's time for
Speaker 1: our final beef. We got the guitar guard, the dude
Speaker 1: responsible for some of the hottest licks and the most
Speaker 1: racist rants of all time. Eric Clapton. He's throwing down
Speaker 1: once again with his long time rival reality singer Eric Clapton,
Speaker 1: continuing his parade of anti vacts nonsense, and this time
Speaker 1: he says he believes people vaccinated against coronavirus are under
Speaker 1: mass hypnosis, and he is very serious about this. In
Speaker 1: an interview, Clapton, who has vaccinated, argued that subliminal messaging
Speaker 1: hidden in advertising is what's leading people to get vaccinated.
Speaker 1: You know, the theory of mass hypnosis formation once I
Speaker 1: kind of start to look for it. I saw everywhere,
Speaker 1: and then I remembered seeing little things on YouTube which
Speaker 1: were like subliminal advertising. So he heard about the hypnosis
Speaker 1: and he didn't notice it, and then he looked for it,
Speaker 1: and then he saw it everywhere, so he got hypnotized.
Speaker 1: Come on, people, this conspiracy theory is so ridiculous subliminal advertising,
Speaker 1: it's not even a real thing. I mean, this really
Speaker 1: drives home that being an expert at one thing does
Speaker 1: not necessarily make you an expert at everything. Because Eric
Speaker 1: Clapton is an amazing guitar player, I'm just not gonna
Speaker 1: listen to him about COVID anymore than i'd buy an
Speaker 1: album from Dr Fauci. I'm Dr Fauci, and I'm here
Speaker 1: to say COVID is messing up the USA. This is
Speaker 1: almost not a beef because reality doesn't care about your
Speaker 1: heart takes. All, right, Yeah, it's reality. I mean, try
Speaker 1: having an argument with oncoming traffic and you let me
Speaker 1: to know how that works out. But still we have
Speaker 1: to pick a winner. And the winner of this beasiness
Speaker 1: this Kanye West. Yeah you thought he was saying crazy ship,
Speaker 1: but next to Eric Clapton, he's basically Barack Obama. Taylor,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you finish, but uh psych, all right,
Speaker 1: that's enough of the beef. I got the itist. Let's
Speaker 1: take a When we come back. W Kmalbell will be
Speaker 1: here on the show to talk about Bill Cosby. Don't
Speaker 1: welcome back to the Day Show. My guest tonight is
Speaker 1: comedian and director w Camalbell. He's here to talk about
Speaker 1: his new docuseries. We need to talk about Cosby. W Kmalbell.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Data Show. Yeah, maybe my last time.
Speaker 1: Welcome your last time. I feel like I might be
Speaker 1: doing my last You know what I appreciate you, my friend,
Speaker 1: is the last time we spoke was like in the
Speaker 1: heart of the pandemic. I was in my apartment and you,
Speaker 1: I think at home as well, and we're talking and
Speaker 1: I said to you, I said, you know, come out
Speaker 1: every single time I see you talking about racism, you
Speaker 1: talk about racism. You always bringing the room down. You're
Speaker 1: talking about racism, and I see you felt that as
Speaker 1: a challenge. You were like, you know what, Trevor, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna show you at this time we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: Bill Cosby. You thought I brought the room down. Before
Speaker 1: the room is down. And they're down. A lot of
Speaker 1: them are down on me right now? Why would you
Speaker 1: choose to do this? I remember you calling me and
Speaker 1: you said, hey, do you I'm doing this documentary about
Speaker 1: Bill Cosby? Would you like to be in it? And
Speaker 1: I was like, no, yeah, there was no reason I
Speaker 1: would want to be part of this document but no.
Speaker 1: But in all honesty, it's because I know this is
Speaker 1: strange to say Bill Cosby just was not a cultural influence.
Speaker 1: We talked talked about that, and it was so weird
Speaker 1: to me because I'm glad I've watched this documentary because
Speaker 1: now I truly understand how big Bill Cosby actually was.
Speaker 1: So tell me, why why do you think we need
Speaker 1: to talk about Cosby? I appreciate you talking about that
Speaker 1: phone call because I got a lot of notes for
Speaker 1: a lot of people, and I've been very clear about
Speaker 1: other than obviously hanimal bursts, I'm not I haven't said
Speaker 1: who said no? So thank you for outing yourself here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so a lot of people said no. Of course, Well
Speaker 1: I only said no because I didn't I could answer
Speaker 1: the conversation. I mean a lot of people. I mean, yes,
Speaker 1: I understand that, but I'm saying, like a lot of
Speaker 1: I mean, if you stack the yes is next to
Speaker 1: the nose, yeah, and it's and you know, and a
Speaker 1: lot of people had a lot of I mean, I
Speaker 1: had some really great conversations like the one I had
Speaker 1: with you, with people for a long time that ended
Speaker 1: in't no yeah yeah. So when you getting all the nose,
Speaker 1: did you think should I not be made this thing? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That was one of the many times I thought, And
Speaker 1: right now as I sit here, should I have been
Speaker 1: making this thing? It's like, I can't explain it other
Speaker 1: than I was. I'm always drawn to difficult conversations. That's
Speaker 1: kind of I think. Uh. And because Bill Cosby was
Speaker 1: such a huge cultural racial figure in my life and
Speaker 1: so charted a path that I was like, that's the
Speaker 1: path I should be on. Do good work, be a comedian,
Speaker 1: but also do good in the world. Like a lot
Speaker 1: of black folks, specifically of my generation older, we were
Speaker 1: just gutted to find out about all these allegations and
Speaker 1: then wrestling with do I believe them? And I believe them?
Speaker 1: And so it's like and I that conversation is going
Speaker 1: in my head all the time every time he makes
Speaker 1: an appearance or sends out sends out a tweet and like,
Speaker 1: I'm always thinking about it and talking to other people
Speaker 1: about it, and I couldn't. I found myself in a
Speaker 1: position where I was talking to the producers of this
Speaker 1: doc about it and they were like, they had never
Speaker 1: thought about it this way, and so this is where
Speaker 1: we ended up. But yeah, it was I can only
Speaker 1: say I was compelled to do it by something that
Speaker 1: was not rational. I think you doing it has, honestly
Speaker 1: and up one of the hardest conversations that we need
Speaker 1: to be having in society, not just specifically about Bill Cosby,
Speaker 1: but about society as a whole. Right. It feels like,
Speaker 1: especially when you watch this docuseries, that there were almost
Speaker 1: you know, three generations of people that are going to exist.
Speaker 1: There are the people who came up with Cosby. You know,
Speaker 1: you are sort of in the hearts of that. Like
Speaker 1: as a child that was Cosby was one of the shape.
Speaker 1: It was part of shaping you. Really, you know, I
Speaker 1: mean people were talking about this, you know, just before
Speaker 1: we came out for this interview, like my producers and
Speaker 1: they were talking about how like in white families, they
Speaker 1: were like, Cosby's this is the biggest thing. It wasn't
Speaker 1: about black or white. Was Cosby? He was America's dad,
Speaker 1: America's black, America's right, and he he had done so much.
Speaker 1: And you know we talked about how you know you
Speaker 1: learned this in the documentaries, like how Cosby changed stuntmen
Speaker 1: in America. Like Cosby was the one who said, hey,
Speaker 1: you can't have white guys in black face doing a stunt,
Speaker 1: just get black stuntmen. He changed Hollywood fel Yeah, there
Speaker 1: were no black performers under contract until Bill Cosby. So
Speaker 1: you have this generation of people who goes, man, Bill
Speaker 1: Cosby changed my world in all the best ways. Then
Speaker 1: you have the now generation who goes like, well, I
Speaker 1: just know Blue Cosby as the rapist guy, right, And
Speaker 1: then you have the generation that goes like, how do
Speaker 1: we how do we live with the myths and the man? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that if you want to that question the documentary
Speaker 1: for yourself. I think the way we is to deal
Speaker 1: with all of it. I think the only way you
Speaker 1: can deal with it. Like Roland Martin makes a great
Speaker 1: point of like it you can't talk about black black,
Speaker 1: you can't talk about American twenty century without talking about
Speaker 1: Bill Cosby. And I think he says Black America. But
Speaker 1: you can't talk about America in the twenty without talking
Speaker 1: about Bill Cosby. But you can't also ignore all the
Speaker 1: things that have come out in the twenty one century.
Speaker 1: And so for me, this whole doc is about creating
Speaker 1: a space to talk about all of it. It's we
Speaker 1: need to talk about Cosby, not here's my thoughts on Cosby.
Speaker 1: And as you can see from that clip, there's a
Speaker 1: there's nuance, there's anger, and there's sorrow. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of it is based in conflict or
Speaker 1: royaling frustration, and you have to talk about all of
Speaker 1: it because otherwise we lose essential parts of American history.
Speaker 1: For a lot of people, I'm hearing like they've been
Speaker 1: waiting for this conversation happened in some format. And the
Speaker 1: other problem in America we have the like it's not
Speaker 1: time now. It's not time now, anytime there's any major conversation.
Speaker 1: It just felt like when I started he was in prison,
Speaker 1: I felt like it's time, and then he got out.
Speaker 1: He got out on the last day of filming. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had two questions, One, how did you feel about that?
Speaker 1: And too, did you ever reach out to him to
Speaker 1: be a part of the documentary. So he got out
Speaker 1: on the last day of filming. It was one of
Speaker 1: the most surreal days of my life. Up until tomorrow
Speaker 1: when he releases a statement about the dock, the surreality
Speaker 1: will continue. Um, you know, I thought, maybe the project
Speaker 1: goes away, and also, yeah, maybe the project goes away,
Speaker 1: you know, because it's just so hard to make. I
Speaker 1: didn't reach out to him because I was always clear
Speaker 1: that one it's a conversation about him, it's not it's
Speaker 1: not a true crime documentary. It's not about finding out
Speaker 1: what this person thinks. It's a conversation about the legacy
Speaker 1: and the work and also the allegations that I believe,
Speaker 1: as I said, And it just felt like I had,
Speaker 1: really we had worked hard as a team to get
Speaker 1: to get to get to earn the survivor's trust, sit
Speaker 1: down and have these conversations in a more wide open way,
Speaker 1: and that would have felt like a real betrayal of
Speaker 1: their trust to put Bill Cosby into this. One thing
Speaker 1: I appreciated in this documentary is how you having those conversations.
Speaker 1: You know, it feels like you had to tackle tackle
Speaker 1: it in a nuance way. You can just go like
Speaker 1: so what happened? It seemed like there was more to
Speaker 1: the conversation. What do you think we missed in some
Speaker 1: of the ways we were trying to have conversations in
Speaker 1: and around Cosby and in many of his survivors who
Speaker 1: came out. It was really important for me and the
Speaker 1: filmmakers and the other producers to go, let's show who
Speaker 1: these people were. Let's bring them in the dock when
Speaker 1: they're just commenting on the time and the era, and
Speaker 1: if they have good memories of Bill Case, bring them
Speaker 1: in to talk about that. Because then the thing happens
Speaker 1: like maybe some woman is telling you about how Playboy worked,
Speaker 1: and you who who Heffner was? Another man who's in
Speaker 1: this era, and you go, she's an expert because she
Speaker 1: was in Playboy magazine and she was a playmate. And
Speaker 1: then you go, oh, wait, she's a survivor. So you
Speaker 1: get to meet her as a human being who's an
Speaker 1: expert in her life in her field, and you don't
Speaker 1: and you're not bringing all that. The survivor is about
Speaker 1: to tell me a story too. Is it possible to
Speaker 1: separate the artists from the arts? Do you think it
Speaker 1: is possible? I mean, I would say this. We separate
Speaker 1: the art from the artists all the time. There are
Speaker 1: so many ways it could be. Musicians could be actors,
Speaker 1: way they don't have to be criminals. But you go, like,
Speaker 1: right now you're talking about Eric Clapton, You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. There are a lot of people who don't
Speaker 1: agree with any of his vaccine stances, but but but
Speaker 1: maybe felt touched by the song Tears in Heaven, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like, So we do that all
Speaker 1: the time. We just don't think about it until it
Speaker 1: becomes somebody who's so seminal as Bill Cosby, where if
Speaker 1: I separate, if I go I can't watch the stuff anymore,
Speaker 1: and you go I can. Then it becomes a fight
Speaker 1: of you mad at me for because you think I
Speaker 1: don't understand and because you don't think I'm taking him seriously,
Speaker 1: And so for me, I'm like in the stock we
Speaker 1: can take the art seriously, but we have to talk
Speaker 1: about the other stuffs. Well, I'll tell you this man,
Speaker 1: this documentary, I can't imagine how hard and scary it
Speaker 1: was to make it. No, I I appreciate that, but
Speaker 1: but but honestly I appreciate it just on a personal
Speaker 1: level because I think it gives people an opportunity to
Speaker 1: consume an extremely complicated story and a complicated legacy in
Speaker 1: one of the most nuanced ways possible. So thank you
Speaker 1: for that, Thank you for putting yourself on the line.
Speaker 1: And I want you to know if your career ends,
Speaker 1: I will I will like claim that I never knew you.
Speaker 1: I appreciate what you did, and I will respect that.
Speaker 1: I will respect that this tape will be deleted. I
Speaker 1: understand now I'm in for realm in congratulations and thank
Speaker 1: you very much, Thank you very much. We need to
Speaker 1: talk about Cosby for me is January only on a showtime.
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a quick break, but we'll be right
Speaker 1: back after this. Well that's our show for tonight's but
Speaker 1: before we go. This weekend was the forty ninth anniversary
Speaker 1: of Row v. Wade, and while it is still law
Speaker 1: in much of the country, women's reproductive rights are being threatened,
Speaker 1: but Planned Parenthood is on the ground. They're helping deliver
Speaker 1: vital reproductive healthcare, sex education, and information to millions of people,
Speaker 1: not just in the United States but worldwide. So if
Speaker 1: you want to support them in their mission, then you
Speaker 1: can donate at the link below, and so tomorrow, stay
Speaker 1: safe out there, get your vaccine, and remember you never
Speaker 1: know when there's a microphone recording you, so just to
Speaker 1: be safe, call everyone a stupid son of a bitch.
Speaker 1: What's the Daily Show weeknights and eleven tenth Central on
Speaker 1: Comedy Central and stream full episodes anytime on Paramount Plus.
Speaker 1: This has been a Comedy Central podcast