1 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to this week's seven edition Between the Horns. 2 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 1: If you're joining us on social and digital channels Live, 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: good morning, or if you're enjoying the podcast a bit 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: later in the day, glad you found this. We do 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: this every Thursday. I'm JB. Long and joined by team 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: reporter for the Rams, Serena Morales. How's your week been, 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: Serena Solin. I'm just I'm as you said earlier, I'm 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: excited that we have an extra twenty four hours given 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: us Monday night football. That's right. It does pace the 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: week out just a little bit. And there's our Super 11 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: Bowl champion de Marco far working on his site words 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: while behind you. Thank you you got a practice man, right, 13 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: you know I can, I can go to the bathroom. 14 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: And joining us for the first time a former NFL 15 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: tight end, my friend and colleague from the Pac twelve 16 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: also does great work for Fox Sports, Evan Moore, who 17 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: just so happens to be Nick Foles's brother in law's. 18 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: We'll get to that a bit later on. He's going 19 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: to give us the full family Gadden Report. How are you, Evan? 20 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: I'm great, guys, Thanks for having me on. I appreciate it. 21 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: I this is cool because I grew up in Southern 22 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: California and I was a Rams fan back when the 23 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: Rams were playing home games in Anaheim. Like, I grew 24 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: up a big Rams fan, right then they go to 25 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: Saint Louis and they come back. So this is a 26 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: great time to be a Southern California sports fan too, 27 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: given the start for the Rams, and you guys are 28 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: probably as locked in as I'm to the Dodgers in 29 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: the World Series two. So these are good times for 30 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: SoCal sports, that's for sure. Yeah. One one against the Rays, 31 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: all right, Serena. As you know, the Rams sit at 32 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: four and two now another prime time matchup. A way, 33 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: it's good to be back at SOFI Stadium Monday night 34 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: football against the five and one Chicago Bars system NFT 35 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: playoff implications. Before we break down that matchup, as always, 36 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: let's see what we learn from a week ago the 37 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: loss of the forty nine ers take it away, Yeah, 38 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: I mean overall, right, we saw that the offense just 39 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: wasn't what they we've seen them be this season. They 40 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: couldn't get anything together. So was it one of those 41 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: just off games? I mean? The Rams were held to 42 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: just under two hundred yards sing for the second time 43 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: this season. Goff was off. He completed a season low 44 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: nineteen passes fifty percent completion a season low as well. 45 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: I also would just like to add in Cooper Cup. 46 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: I mean, a guy that we look at and we're like, 47 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: save us had three receptions for eleven yards, Evan, I 48 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: would love your thoughts well. So watching that game, Going 49 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: into that game, I felt like, I don't know how 50 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: you guys feel about this, but it felt like to me, 51 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: you can call the Niners desperate, but it also felt 52 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: like a team that was getting healthy kind of at 53 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: the right time. And because we have to think back 54 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: to what we expected of the Niners to start the season, 55 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: right before Richard Sherman got hurt, before Nick Bosa got hurt, 56 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: and before some guys on offense got hurt, and I 57 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: don't know that two and three was indicative of what 58 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: this team really was. And so what I was interested 59 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: to see is getting those guys back and getting them 60 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: healthy and seeing how they performed. But on the defensive 61 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: side of the ball, it was interesting to see Jared's 62 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: struggle at times given the Niners lack of pass rush, 63 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: they were just effective playing coverage, and I think that 64 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: makes this upcoming week interesting because the Bears have also 65 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: proven they're really good at playing coverage, but they also 66 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: will generate an effective pass rush with their front four, 67 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: So that that element of this matchup this week I'm 68 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: really interested to see. But so much of it, Serena, 69 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: as you know and all you guys know, playing quarterback 70 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: is finding like there's two different ways for a quarterback 71 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: to beat a defense. In my mind, it's with their 72 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: mind or with their legs, right, and beat pressure, how 73 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: do they do it? So guys like Russell Wilson they 74 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 1: do it with both, but guys like Nick Foles and 75 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: Jared Goff they tend to do it more with their 76 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: mind than with their legs. And there are some games 77 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: where defensively, you know, defensive coordinators will out scheme guys 78 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: right and they'll make it really difficult for them to 79 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: find easy completions, and quarterbacks just never hit rhythms, and 80 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: sometimes that stuff can kind of perpetuate itself over the 81 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: course of the game and just kind of snowball and 82 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: before you know it just not an effective outing, you know, 83 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: for whatever reason. So it's just kind of learning from 84 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: those things and trying to find ways to beat beat 85 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: those kind of coverage issues that you face over the 86 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: course of a game. When you say, you know rhythm 87 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: Evan like both you and Jamarca former players, DeMarco to me, right, 88 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: you have four road games in a five game stretch. 89 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: Is it like the vacation after the vacation, Like all 90 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,839 Speaker 1: of a sudden you're like, Oh, I'm totally fine. No, wait, 91 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: I need to sleep for another five days when I 92 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: get home. You know, look, I believe coach McVeigh when 93 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: he says it doesn't matter where we play, or when 94 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: we play or who we play, and so I never 95 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: give that road stuff any kind of credence. But maybe look, 96 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: you started slow on both sides of the football. San Francisco, 97 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: like he said, played desperate. They were the better football 98 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: team in the first half. They out hit you on 99 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. So it was rough by 100 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: the time you found your mojo. You know, Kyle Shanahan's 101 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: got a lead at home. That's tough. You know, if 102 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: you look at any coordinator, Andy Reid is probably the 103 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: guy where you say I need points here, that's the 104 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: guy you probably picked. But for any head coach or 105 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: coordinator that needs to just get ten yards to salt 106 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: the game away. I'm taking Shanahan nine times out of ten. 107 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean that's what happened, so you maybe 108 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: the road got to him. But when you turn on 109 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: the film, the forty nine ers were a faster, stronger, 110 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: tougher team on game day. Well that being said to 111 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: Marco after that tough offensive performance in Week six. Now, 112 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: the Rams welcome one of the best defenses in the league. 113 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: And we've seen this team in each of the past 114 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: two years. We've seen them with Thick Fangio, We've seen 115 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: them with Pagana. We've seen them with and without a 116 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: Keem Hicks. We've seen them with and without Danny Trevathan 117 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: in the cold in Chicago and the coliseum here in 118 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. It doesn't matter both times they've been a headache. 119 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: How come you know they're just so dang big up front? JB. 120 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: To be honest, I mean, if you look at a 121 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: Cheam Hicks and just look at his measurables six five, 122 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty two pounds, that's what he's listed at. 123 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: But then you look at his production chart, the guy's 124 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: got thirty seven sacks in his career, so he's not 125 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: just big, he's skillful as well. But they eat up 126 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: a lot of space him and Goal Nichols in the middle, 127 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: and then they have two good linebackers in the middle 128 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: and Roquan Smith and Danny Trevathan to just clean everything up. 129 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, they've got Khalil Mack. So 130 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: when you start talking about the best defensive guys, at 131 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: least the ones that put their hands down to make 132 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: a living, you'll talk about a d You'll talk about 133 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: what And you also got to bring up this guy, 134 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: Khalil Max. So he seems to have found a home 135 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,679 Speaker 1: on that left side, and he's just a record machine. 136 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: And like Evans said, they don't have to do a 137 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: lot with Pagano's defense. They rush for they play coverage, 138 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: and they get to you with four. They're dangerous defense, 139 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: they're tough to move, and they're just they play nasty. 140 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: I love the way I love to watch them play. Yeah, guys, 141 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: when I think of the Bears, I think back watching 142 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: Nick when with the Eagles go and play the Bears 143 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: in the playoffs in eighteen towards the end of the season, 144 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: and my biggest concern going into that game, like Demarcos saying, 145 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: is the Bears are effective at both getting the passer 146 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: and stopping the one run when bringing four right, they 147 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: don't have to get very creative with linebackers or blitzes 148 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: or bringing guys out of the secondary to add into pressure. 149 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: And when you do that, like think about this, when 150 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: you when you can put pressure on the quarterback with 151 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: your front floor, much like the Rams can more often 152 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: than not, when you effectively do that and you still 153 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: have seven guys in coverage, sometimes even eight guys in coverage, 154 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: we're do you throw the football right? Because this is 155 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: the NFL. We're talking about guys in the back end 156 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: like Kyle Fuller, Eddie Jackson, even the rookie Jalen Johnson 157 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: on the other side. It makes it much easier for 158 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: them when they know they have helped behind them and 159 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: they're not they're not sacrificing coverage to put pressure on 160 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: the quarterback or stop the run. And so that's what 161 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: makes his team so formidable. Right. And Kiem Hicks is 162 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: probably one of the more underrated tackles in the league. 163 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: You don't hear people talk about him very often. And 164 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: that position in particular, especially as we see with Aaron 165 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: Donald every week. Given well, I think he's off for 166 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: the best six game start of his career at this point. DeMarco, 167 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if you agree with this, but I 168 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: thought this as long as I've been watching football that 169 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: I think the interior defensive tackle position, if you get 170 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: a guy that can both stop the run and put 171 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: pressure on the passer from the interior of the defensive line, 172 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: I think that's the most important position on the field 173 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: outside of quarterback. Because I love you. I mean, I'm 174 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: not and a guy I realized given your background, but 175 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: it affects every other position on the field, right, I 176 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: Mean they're like, oh I was way back in college. Now, 177 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: this was just a dec line coach pumping us up. 178 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: But it's actually true. A good three technique or a 179 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: good defensive tackle can dominate the game question everyone. So yeah, 180 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: as long as a Keen Nicks is doing this thing, 181 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: as long as AD's doing this thing, is suffer anybody 182 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: to do anything out there against them. Well, you guys 183 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: share some love over the defense. I would like to 184 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: get briefly to our offense. I really do think like 185 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: who has the edge here? Right? Because if you're going 186 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: defense versus defense, then now we've got to look at 187 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: the other side of the ball. The Bears had just 188 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty one total yards versus Carolina. I 189 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 1: could see, I don't know, the Rams to me have 190 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: to get on the scoreboard early, and both losses the 191 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: Rams were unable to get on the board in the 192 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: first quarter. Evan, do you kind of see that in 193 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: the same vein, like, hey, let's get these guys going 194 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: early against a good defense. Yeah. Well, I think both 195 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: offenses are obviously facing really good defenses, and it's a challenge, right. 196 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: So if I could start with the Bears real quick, 197 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: I think the challenge for them is this winning formula 198 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: they've had so far at five and one, it's fair 199 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: to ask if it's sustainable, right, because you're looking at 200 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: him and you're saying, well, it's not a very efficient 201 00:08:58,120 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: offense right towards the bottom of the league in a 202 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: lot of categories. The defense has played well. They've beaten 203 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: four teams that are under five hundred. The only over 204 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: five hundred team they beat his Tampa, and that was 205 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: not a pretty game. So Ken the Bears sustain this 206 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: and be able to get a win against the Rams. 207 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: The fair question to ask, and what I think it 208 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: comes down to, given their inefficiencies offensively, like they're not 209 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: a threat to run the football. They're really not. I mean, 210 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: David Montgomery's a good player, but what they do offensively 211 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: up front, they're not giving him much room, and so 212 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: they constantly get themselves in second and third and ten situations. 213 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: And so I mean they love to run the ball 214 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: in first down. As a viewer, drives me nuts sometimes, right. 215 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: So my hope going into this game is that Matt 216 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: Naggie and Bill Laser, their offensive coordinator, kind of reassess 217 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: and say, look, right, so far this year we've called 218 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: our offense like, we're a well balanced offense. Right, We'll 219 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: try to run it on first down, then we'll go 220 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 1: play action second down. It's like, guys, the opponent does 221 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: not respect your run game, right, So what I would 222 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: like to see them do is get naked the gun 223 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: more often, let him kind of read and react to 224 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: what's going on, spread the field out a little bit. 225 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: That's I think like towards the end of the Atlanta game. Now, 226 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: Atlanta has got loads of issues too defensively, but that's 227 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: when I think they're at their best right, That's what 228 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: I think gives Nick the best chance to be successful. 229 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: So can they do that against the Rams? I mean, 230 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: the Rams are gonna have a good front four. Obviously 231 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: have a good front four. And the thing that Nick 232 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: understands the best about wearing down front fours. Demargot can 233 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 1: probably attest to this too, Like defensive guys have to 234 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: chase the football, that's what they're coach to do. So 235 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: Nick likes spreading the spreading the field out against a 236 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: good pass rush and getting the ball out quickly to 237 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: the perimeter because those guys got to chase, right, and 238 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 1: he likes to get moving and wear those guys down. 239 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: So I really hope they don't say, hey, let's huddle 240 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: after every play that you're just giving guys like Aaron 241 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: Donald all day to get to get their breath and 242 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: come after you. So on paper, I think this thing 243 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: probably favors the Rams as far as their ability to 244 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: produce offensively. But if the Bears can tweak some things 245 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: this week offensively, schematically and philosophically, and remember that you know, 246 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: we're just we're not a threat to effectively run the 247 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: football on a regular basis. I think they got a 248 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: chance to surprise some people. This week. Let's dip into 249 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: our Rams fan mailbag, and this week a lot of 250 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: the conversation is what's going on with cam Akers. He's healthy, 251 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: but played just one snap and did not have a 252 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: touch against the forty nine ers. DeMarco, what do you 253 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: think is his time coming? Because I don't know. There's 254 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: a lot of responsibility against his pass rush of the 255 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears that I think Malcolm Brown's well suited for. Oh, 256 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: no doubt. I mean, Malcolm, this is a Malcolm tag 257 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: game that's gonna be down on dirty. You're gonna have 258 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: to take on some of these linebackers when they do 259 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: bring pressure. But yeah, I mean Cam Akers, is his 260 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: time is coming? I think maybe last week or on 261 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: Sunday Night he would have gotten some burn if the 262 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: Rams offense could have stayed on the field a little 263 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: bit longer in that second half and the play calling 264 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: wasn't so disjointed. So and think about it, you really 265 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: had to cover up for a defense that was just 266 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: given up chunk yardists to the forty nine ers. So 267 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: a lot of that game plan went out the window. 268 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: But at some point cam Akers is going to get 269 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: in there. Darryl Henderson is doing well. He's running, he's 270 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: very explosive when he gets the rock. And Malcolm Brown's, 271 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: like you said, it's very consistent and you can count 272 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: on him and pass protection. But Cam Akers is kind 273 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: of a do it all and there's got to be 274 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 1: a package riff, and it could be this week versus 275 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: the Bears, because I agree with everything Evans said, but 276 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: put it to the Bears. You're gonna have to make 277 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: these guys go side to side. Screens are gonna have 278 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: to actually be called and work to pull these guys 279 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: off the hash mark. So you can make some money 280 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: with either Robert Wozer Cooper Cup coming back, but can Makers. 281 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: At some point it's going to factor in big to 282 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: a game factory. His yards after contact and ability to 283 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: break tackles is really unique, and this seems like the 284 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: opportunity where that could really come in handy. I get 285 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: the fan frustration right, because the top four draft picks 286 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: from this class. We were also high on Acres Van 287 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: Lewis Burgess just twenty two snaps combined, and here we're 288 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: getting too the midway point of the season. It's like, 289 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: where's this rookie class, it's still six round picture it 290 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: and Fuller at safety who's made the biggest impact and 291 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: he's on the shelf. I think part of it is 292 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: a nice luxury to have because of the relative health 293 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: of this roster, you haven't had to thrust those young 294 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: players into larger roles. But it does feel like sooner 295 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: or later they're going to sink or swim and their 296 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: time has come. I feel like that for Burgess, who 297 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: got good reps against Kittle, certainly for Lewis, who now 298 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: has two games under his belt and acres, I feel like, 299 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: as the lead pick of this draft class is eventually 300 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: going to start to take over a bigger piece of 301 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: the pie. The one I want back more than anything 302 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: is Lewis, that outside linebacker. I think you have a 303 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: big hole head outside backer and his name should be 304 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,719 Speaker 1: on that starting lineup. So at some point let's hope 305 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: to get him back in there. We're gonna jump quickly 306 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: to rapid fire. We're gonna roll through a bunch of 307 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 1: different topics and matchups heading into Monday night football against 308 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: the Bears. Evan, I'm gonna start with you, Nick Foles. 309 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 1: You know him well well better than any of us. 310 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: What makes him so successful when I watched their game 311 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: against the Panthers, Like, to me, he's very good at 312 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: getting rid of the ball quickly. We don't want a 313 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: quarterback to hold onto the ball. What do you see 314 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: in him? No, Serena, You're right. I mean, like I said, 315 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: it goes back to when you when you're evaluating quarterbacks, 316 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: beating pressure. That's what it comes down to, typically on 317 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: third down. Right now, the Bears have caught themselves in 318 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 1: far too many thirtain and lungs. But when you do 319 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: see pressure, how do you beat pressure? Like we talk 320 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 1: about this in college football all the time. Does a 321 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: guy beat pressure with his legs or with his mind? 322 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: Now the great ones can do it with both, like 323 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Pat mahomes Nick is a prototypical 324 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: pocket passer, right. He'll be the first one to tell 325 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: you like, I'm not beating pressure with my legs. But 326 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: his strength is that he likes to play. He always 327 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: talks about it. He likes to play in the gray, 328 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: meaning he doesn't want to go to the line of 329 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: scrimmage and be told like I need to go, like 330 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: I am going there with the ball before the ball 331 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: is snapped. He likes to read and react, and what 332 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: that implies is that he's really good at processing things 333 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmage as they unfold. And his 334 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: whole career, no matter where he's been, he's always pushed 335 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: for the flexibility to do that, both pre and post snap. 336 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: He's wanted the flexibility. He just drives him nuts when 337 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: offensive coordinators are on him from the sideline, like this 338 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: is where I want you to go with the ball, 339 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: because he feels like his strength is beating pressure by 340 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: seeing things happen in unfold and so I think that's 341 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: a big part of it. And the other thing, like 342 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: like I referenced earlier, is just understanding the game and 343 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: understanding your opponent defensively. So today, like this week, you 344 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: got a guy in Aaron Donald where it's not in 345 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: your best interest to have like big like your big 346 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: five to seven step drop back game or big play action. 347 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: It's not going to work for him this week. That 348 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: ball has to come out right and you gotta move 349 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: quickly too, like you says When they were playing Tampa 350 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, he was on the sideline 351 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: and kind of had an animated exchange with Matt Nagy, 352 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: and that whole thing was about let's go. Like when 353 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: we get in the red zone and I see the 354 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: defensive lineman with their hands on their knees or their 355 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: hands on their hands on their waist, like keeling over, 356 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: let's move. Let's not huddle, right, because that's that that 357 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: gives us a chance to get rid of the pass 358 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: rush and get moving. And I think you're going to 359 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: see more that this week. And so they answer to 360 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: your question really just comes down to his just a 361 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: good understanding of what his limitations are and what he's 362 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: facing it with his opponent trying to exploit it. And 363 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: then Marco, that's it. I could go off forever about it, 364 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: but that's it. That was a zoom cut off. Sorry, Edan. 365 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: It was gonna ask DeMarco, like, aside from telling the 366 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: defense that the game kicks off at eleven thirty this week, 367 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: how do we get the second half defense to show 368 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: up from the kickoff. Well, look, you got to play 369 00:15:57,920 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: better up front. That's number one. If you go back 370 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: and look at that San Francisco tape, they were absolutely 371 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: mauled on first and ten and they couldn't get the 372 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: forty nine us to third down. So when you did 373 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: trap Garoppolo in those third and fifteens, you actually got pressure. 374 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: So same with Nick Foles this week. You've got to 375 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: tackle well only perimeter. You can't give up your aren't 376 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: you can't miss tackles, set up those second and long, 377 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: third and longs and trap him in a situation where 378 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: he has to drop back to five and seven and 379 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: then let Aaron don leads. So the game plan this 380 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: week is help out ninety nine, make your plays when 381 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: they come to you, and set up a big third 382 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: down and you will get off the field versus this 383 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: offensive line, no doubt. But you've got to get lined up. 384 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: You've got to be ready to play with the ball 385 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: snap and you can't make mistakes and you can't have 386 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: silly penalty. So if you make your tackles on the perimeter, 387 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: you set up ninety nine for a big day for 388 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: both of you and JB. I'm sure you've got some 389 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: good insight here. Eighty and Khalil match both drafted in 390 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. Both have played one hundred games. If we've 391 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: redrafted the twenty fourteen draft, took the top five, I 392 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: would love to hear each of you who you got 393 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: to get you some reference. Khalil Mack went five, Taylor 394 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: Luwan went eleven, ob j went twelve, eighty went thirteen 395 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: to Marcus Lawrence went thirty four, Davante Adams fifty three, 396 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: Jadavian Clowney number one in twenty fourteen. Do we just 397 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: take eighty one here? Really? What kind of question is 398 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: that this guy's going for his third you know, defensive 399 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: MVP award. Of course you take him number one. I mean, 400 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 1: I think Clowney drops a little bit. Khalil mac may 401 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: even rise, But yeah, I mean, is it any question 402 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 1: that you would take ninety nine and number one? Look up? 403 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: Trying to be unbiased as I wear a ram duty here, Okay, 404 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: I can be. I'll be objective, demark I agree with you. 405 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question He's number one, and 406 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 1: I would take Khalil number two. I wouldn't take any 407 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 1: skill players in the top five of his draft, like 408 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: i'd take Taylor Luan, I'd take Zack Martin and then 409 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowney number five. I wouldn't take any skill players. 410 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald Look like I said before, I like I 411 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: say this all the time. Like what he does interior 412 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: pass rush and stop the run. I mean that is 413 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: that's a franchise He's a top three player in the league. Yeah, 414 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: I'm obviously trading all of my picks to get up 415 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: to one for for Aaron Donald if I have any 416 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,959 Speaker 1: capital left, Yes, I agree, Mac is probably two. I 417 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: am taking skill guys like I'm going Mike Evans and 418 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: O b J and calling in to day. I might 419 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: even layer in Jarvis Landry or Brandon Coach or somebody 420 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: and say I'm set for the next eight years. Um. 421 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: I know conventional wisdom says, don't take guards this high, 422 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: don't take them over franchise tackles like Jake Matthews and 423 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: Taylor Lawe. But I like the name Zack Martin that 424 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: one of you dropped in there, because he's maybe the 425 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: best one in the game. And if I have a 426 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: chance to get a perennial pro bowler to to anchor 427 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: down that line, that's that's a tough one to let 428 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: fall out of the top five. But for not having 429 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: like a true high end, elite tight end like Cars 430 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: had a nice career, Bortles had some good moments. Um 431 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater. But for not being a quarterback heavy class man, 432 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: this draft was rock solid. There is a horror film 433 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: to watch on table. Yeah. Absolutely, Baby. It's kind of 434 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: funny because we're hitting our last topic of the day, 435 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: which is our Rams fantasy picks, and this whole game. 436 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: I was like, man, I didn't get this win, but 437 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 1: I think I still this week. Thank you. Yeah you 438 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: had Sam Samuel Sloman. Um. I picked Jared Goff, Yeah, 439 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: just walk off. It's a great Jane Deep picked Cooper 440 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: Cup again, which I was like, there's no way that 441 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: you go wrong with the Cooper Cup and had three 442 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: receptions for eleven yards. And we had andrews ce Cilana, 443 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: who had Fan Jefferson who had one reception for eight yards. 444 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: So we're kind of clearing the slate here. We're going 445 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: into Monday night football. Um, what is your fantasy pick, 446 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: DeMarco Farr, let's go. Did I picked Johnny Hecker? No? Right, 447 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: that's no points. No, I mean he's gonna factor in 448 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: big in this game. Definitely a feel position battle with 449 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: the Bears. So Johnny Hecker's name is gonna be all 450 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: on this win or but I'll go with Cooper Cup 451 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: on the bounce back. Okay, yeah, I doubt if Cooper 452 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: Cup has slept much since Sunday night, so he can't 453 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: wait to get back out, so Ken Jared Goff, so 454 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: he's gonna be more accurate. Cooper Cup's gonna be Cooper Cup. 455 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: I'll go with Cooper Cups my fantasy Thick Evan. I 456 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: almost went Robert Woods because I think, you know, I 457 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: wonder if we'd se him line up against Jalen Johnson, 458 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: who actually has been pretty good this year, the rookie 459 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: on the outside. But I'm going to lean basic, mostly 460 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: because of what the Bears do defensively and how good 461 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: they've been against the pass. When we talked about earlier 462 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: about why that is. I'm gonna lead Darryl Henderson A 463 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 1: because I have him, and b because there have been 464 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: times this year where defensively, I felt like the Bears 465 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: are not quite great yet because they've struggled at times 466 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: to stop the run. There's been there's been times where 467 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: teams have been able to get some rhythm in the 468 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: run game, so that that's been a little bit concerning 469 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: at times with the Bears defense. I think that's stopped 470 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: him from being like in the top three and total 471 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: defense in the league. So I'm gonna lead Daryl Henderson. 472 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: I think he might he might be able to get 473 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: a couple once they get inside the red zone. It's 474 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: definitely possible, especially if you can get him isolated on 475 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: a linebacker and coverage as good as these linebackers have 476 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: been in certain respects, I think covering from the linebacker 477 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: level might be the only deficiency right now in this 478 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 1: Bear's defense. I like the cut pick too, the emotional 479 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: bounce back. Yes, Buster Screen struggling and coverage age thirty 480 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: one in the slot. Think that's a good matchup for 481 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: wherever gets him. But I think I am actually obligated 482 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: by between the Horns rules to double down on kickers 483 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: and go with Kai for Bath this week. So all right, 484 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: I'll play it down the line. JB. To hear you 485 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: say that Buster Screen is a thirty one year old 486 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: and struggling because of his age, that makes me feel 487 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: old because he was a rookie when I was in Cleveland, 488 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: I realized, Wow, he is getting old, so therefore I 489 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: am getting old. Yeah, thank you. Well, we're all struggling 490 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: in our old age in different ways. But the NFL 491 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: world is very relative in that regard. You know what 492 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: I've been even in your old age, however old you are, 493 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: I will give you wise wisdom because I'm actually gonna pick. 494 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: I had Darrell Henderson going into this game, and you 495 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: guys thought that maybe Malcolm Brown would have a good 496 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: game against the Bears. But Daryl Henderson leads the Rams 497 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: and carries rushing yards, rushing touchdowns. He rings nineteenth and 498 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: carries eighteenth and rushing yards. This season, Henderson has eighty 499 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: plus rushing yards of his last five games. Three in 500 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: his last five games. The Bears have allowed three players 501 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: to rush for eighty plus yards this season, Ronald Jones, 502 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, and Todd Gurley. We just dropped Todd Gurley 503 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: to pick up a cam akers and give space to 504 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: Darrell Henderson to see what he's doing. Adrian Peterson, I believe, 505 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 1: is eight thousand years old, and Ronald Jones's two courts games. 506 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: So I'm going with Hendo. Let's go double down Darryl Henderson, 507 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: and there's the fantasy bag. That's it. I mean, I 508 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,159 Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on to Marco bar Jablong. That's a 509 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: rap for a Week seven edition of Between the Horns. 510 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: Rams take on the Bears Soapy Stadium Monday Night Football 511 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: five fifteen Pacific start you can catch on ESPN. Thanks 512 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: for tuning in. We'll see you next week for more 513 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: Between the Horns