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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, Ambar Garcia, and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is a play twenty twenty season sixteen, episode number four.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of The Break. I am live

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Speaker 1: from my home along with Dave Hellman and Nick Eatman

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Speaker 1: and Amber Garcia. They are all at their own homes

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Speaker 1: and we're happy you guys took some time to sit

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Speaker 1: down and talk some Cowboys football with us today. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna get into our position series again today and talk

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Speaker 1: a tight end position. Of course, Amber has a game

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Speaker 1: How's everybody feeling today? Great? Great there, awesome, Thank you

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Speaker 1: for bringing the energy in the enthusiasm. It's good to

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Speaker 1: see all you guys. What are you saying? Nick? I

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Speaker 1: just said, great, wonderful, awesome, outstanding. Help while we're gonna

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Speaker 1: go with this. You're a writer. I'm sure you get

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Speaker 1: probably twenty more words at work, right, Not really, though,

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Speaker 1: just tell me one thing you missed the most about

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Speaker 1: being stuck at home, and one thing you've kind of

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Speaker 1: start with you, Dave. I think I said this the

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Speaker 1: I miss driving, Like I actually I just drove to

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Speaker 1: Let's start first the linebacker position. It's interesting that this

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Speaker 1: maybe get some playing time during the regular season, or

428
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Speaker 1: is he just going to be more of a special

429
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: teams type guy. Let's start first with you, Dave. Just

430
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: as a general rule, I try to avoid having expectations

431
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 1: for anybody that was like drafted after like the fourth round,

432
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 1: Like if you're a fifth, sixth, seventh round pick or

433
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent. I mean, anything you can give

434
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: me is great, but I don't have these like crazy

435
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 1: expectations that Luke Gifford is going to unseat first round

436
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 1: pick Layton vander Esh sixty five million dollar man Jalen Smith,

437
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: or you know, ten year veteran Shan Lee. I don't

438
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,479
Speaker 1: see that unless there's a crazy rash of injuries. I

439
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: expect that he'll make the team, and I think he's

440
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: got the potential to be a good player. But beyond that,

441
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 1: I'll just wait and see what he can show me. Camber,

442
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 1: I think he'll definitely make the team. He's a guy

443
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 1: that they can develop into something. Again, we didn't get

444
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: to see much from him, but me, what I like

445
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 1: from him is his built He has that linebacker bill.

446
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: He fits perfectly with that mold that the rest of

447
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: the linebacker group have, so at least he has that

448
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 1: we Unfortunately, I was hoping to get to see more

449
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: from him last year, but that didn't happen. Now, I

450
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: don't think he'll get much chances to be playing on

451
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: the field to fill in for any of those guys

452
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: unless there are injuries that happen, and then maybe then

453
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 1: he can get to showcase a little bit of his work.

454
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: And hopefully that's the thing too is unless you get

455
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: playing time. It's very hard for these guys to develop

456
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: into someone that they can use for later on. So

457
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: I would like for them to hopefully get to use

458
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: him a lot during the preseason, give him a ton

459
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Speaker 1: of work just to see what he can do during

460
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 1: that time, and see if that's someone that they definitely

461
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: should keep for the future. Yeah. I just like his instincts.

462
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: I think that he he you know, like like uh

463
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: Amber said that, you know, he does have the look

464
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: for a linebacker, but he also has has really good instincts.

465
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 1: We saw that he did just enough before he got

466
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 1: hurt to to show that he was making progress, and

467
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: then he did just enough in that game that he played,

468
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: gets the interception, makes another tackle, and then that was

469
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: enough for him to make the team. So, uh you know,

470
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: he does take advantage of the opportunity. He was pretty

471
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 1: good at times on um when he came back from

472
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: injury on special teams. But you know, I just think

473
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Speaker 1: that he needs a good offseason here, and you know

474
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard for that to happen. But um,

475
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: you know, I think that he's he's got a spot,

476
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: I don't know about competing for a starting job. But

477
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: then then again, like it's hard to tell what the

478
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: scheme and and what you know this coaching staff likes

479
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: from these linebackers, so um, there could be something we

480
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: don't even know about with him. And and that's assuming

481
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Speaker 1: that they stay in a four three. I mean, if

482
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Speaker 1: they do move to a three four, which I don't

483
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: think that's going to happen, but if they do it

484
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: at times, you know, there could be a different fit

485
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: for him as well. It's interesting you look at this

486
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: quart this group. You've got Sean Lee on a one

487
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: year deal, you got justin March on a one year deal,

488
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: you got Joe Thomas on a one year deal. I

489
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: think it's pretty pretty safe to say that the Cowboys

490
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: should be looking at a draft pick because they may

491
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 1: meet them after this year. Luke Gifford becomes another guy

492
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: that has an opportunity because again, all these guys are

493
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 1: on one year deals. That being said, let's talk about

494
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: some names. Dave, you do the draft show here every week.

495
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 1: Give us a couple names of some linebackers in the draft.

496
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 1: You mentioned a couple already, but some linebackers that might

497
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: make sense at areas where the Cowboys would be drafting

498
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,239
Speaker 1: and would realistically look at a linebacker. Yeah, I mean,

499
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: that's that's an interesting question. To Nick's point is like,

500
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: what do you what do you want this linebacker cord

501
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: to look like? Because like, if you're gonna trot out

502
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: the regular old four or three or four two for Nickel,

503
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 1: now we've gotten used to like if you're gonna use

504
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: a big pick on a linebacker in that scheme, that

505
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: to me says something troublesome about Layton vander esh which

506
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: is why I leaned toward thinking like day three picks.

507
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: But then you think about being multiple, maybe not transitioning

508
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 1: to a three four, but just being as multiple as possible.

509
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: You could draft more of a rush linebacker like Wisconsin

510
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: Zach Bond, who they just talked to. Kenneth Murray is intriguing.

511
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: If they were going to draft him, I would assume

512
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: it would be to play on the inside. He could

513
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: pair with somebody as your middle two linebackers in a

514
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: three four. So it's interesting to think what they would

515
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: want to do with that first round picks. You could

516
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: draft Kenneth Murray out of Oklahoma or Patrick Queen out

517
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: of LSU. I don't think it's particularly necessary, but if

518
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: they wanted to run three four personnel, they could. A

519
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 1: guy that I really liked that you could get like

520
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: second or third round is Jordan Brooks out of Texas Tech.

521
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: Who else we got here? I know a lot of

522
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: people talk about Willie Gay out of Mississippi State. That again,

523
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: that's that's a guy you'd probably have to draft with

524
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: the fifty first overall pick, second round just seems awfully

525
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 1: rich for me. Um, But I'm curious to see how

526
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: they would want to do it. I mean, if they

527
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: were going to draft Kenneth Murray, I'd be interested to

528
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: see what their game plan is and how they would

529
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: want to do that. Yeah, I mean, there has been

530
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 1: a little bit of a talk, you know, more and

531
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: more about the three four, mainly because nobody's telling us,

532
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,959
Speaker 1: you know that that's not the case. I mean, and

533
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: you know, all people are doing right now are speculating.

534
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: Anytime you mentioned Randy Gregory or aunt Alden Smith. You know,

535
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: these guys fit that that you know mold of a

536
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: three four. Don Terry Post certainly does as well. So

537
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: you know, I don't necessarily think that's the way the

538
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: Cowboys are gonna go, But but they have enough players

539
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: where you can go and interchange the three four and

540
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: the four three in the middle of the game. The

541
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: Patriots have done that better than anybody, and I think

542
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: that you'll see and the Packers have done that, You'll

543
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: see that the Cowboys will probably try to do that

544
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: with the personnel that they've got. All Right, So real quick,

545
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: here's the final question on linebackers. I need each of

546
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: you to give me one of these three answers regarding

547
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: the linebacker position. Is it among the best position groups

548
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys have? Are they just okay? Or does

549
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: this group need help? Let's start with you Amber, what

550
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: was the last one? Or do they need help? Best? Okay?

551
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: Or they need help? I don't know about best. I

552
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: mean they need a little help. I'm just curious. I

553
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: really don't know what to expect from this coaching staff

554
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: because it's so different and so new to what I've

555
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: been used to see in the past. So I'm curious

556
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: to see how much that what an impact that has

557
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: on this whole linebacker group and the defense as a whole.

558
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: But they do have the talent. I do believe this

559
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: is a talented group. You got Jalen Smith talented. He

560
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: just needs to clean up his game and make it

561
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: you know, stop the celebrations when it's not needed. Just

562
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: keep giving it, you're all. But you know what I'm

563
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: trying to say here anyways, Sean Lee, here's a guy

564
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: that has it all. He just needs to stay healthy

565
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: late late and vendoresh just come back healthy. He definitely

566
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: showed to have what it takes obviously to cover Shan

567
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: Lee's job and kept it. So this is definitely talented group.

568
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: They just need to clean up the game and hopefully

569
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: this coaching staff can can revive that energy and just

570
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: make it all piece together again. So is the position

571
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: group among the best? Are they okay? Or are they?

572
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: Do they need help? They need help? I mean clearly

573
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: from last year based on last year, they need help. Now.

574
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: I think we'll see what the coaching staff does and

575
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: if that was the kind of help that they needed.

576
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: If you're talking about play your wise, is that what

577
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: you're talking about, I'm talking about personnel wise? Are they

578
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: among the best? Is their position group among the best?

579
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: Is their position group just okay? They'll they'll do? Or

580
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: do they still need more help that you know? From

581
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: where they are right now? They need more help anymore? Helping.

582
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: I don't trust the injuries. Honestly, all right, um, honestly,

583
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: this this answer is all three. They are the best

584
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: because they're the only group that all three of the

585
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: starters are all one hundred percent of the starters have

586
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: made a Pro Bowl. So from from what they've accomplished,

587
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: they are the best. But the problem is is that

588
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: sometimes they're just okay. And because of that, because they

589
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: have a lot of invested in it and they're just okay. Yes,

590
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: they need help. So I'm gonna say yes to all

591
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: of them. I'm sorry, but that's that's the case. I mean,

592
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: they are accomplished, but they don't always play up to

593
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: that part, which makes them just okay, which means and

594
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: all those one year contracts from the back end, you know,

595
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, that they need to make sure get

596
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: some help. I agree with Dave. I think the third

597
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: or fourth round. Well I don't know if he said that,

598
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: but you know he didn't say, hi, first and second round,

599
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: third or fourth round would be I would where I

600
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: would start looking for value at linebacker. All Right, Dave,

601
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: it feels kind of knee jerk to me, Like this

602
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: time last year we would have said this was the

603
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: second best position group on the entire team, behind the

604
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: offensive line, and all of that talent is still there.

605
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: There's definitely concerns. I'm not trying to convince anybody that

606
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: there's not, but I have faith that can still be

607
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,239
Speaker 1: a highly effective unit any of my Most of my

608
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: concerns are just about the future, which I completely agree

609
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: with Nick. If there's a guy worth grabbing on Day three,

610
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: like they did so good in back to back years

611
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: drafting Anthony Hitchins and Damian Wilson in the fourth round,

612
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: I would do something like that. If you're looking. I

613
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: know I threw out some names earlier, but like day

614
00:32:55,080 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: three names, look up Davion Taylor out of Colorado, guy

615
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: Jacob Phillips out of LSU I think could be a

616
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: steal and then um no, I'm I know, I know,

617
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: I'm a homer, but he's a freaking he's a super

618
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: good player. You can take my word for it. Another

619
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: one of your guys, Yeah, Evan Weaver out of cal

620
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: is another one. He is not an impressive as he's

621
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: not an impressive athlete, but he makes every tackle in

622
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: the world. Um, I would I've actually seen that guy,

623
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: wasn't he a defensive lineman like in college or did

624
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: he always play or is he like a three four linebacker.

625
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: He's a hybrid linebacker. He wore like ninety nine in college,

626
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: which made him look like a d lineman. But he's

627
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: a I mean, he's a he's an off ball linebacker.

628
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: UM an a guy like that in the fourth, fifth,

629
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: or sixth round just to keep the depth churning and

630
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: have a long term option. That's what I would do. Okay,

631
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: let's uh, let's go ahead and flip flip over to

632
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: the tape tight end position and see what we can

633
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: get out of that before we have to go to

634
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: our second break again. This is a position seen quite

635
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: a bit of change, the notice most noticeable one being

636
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: Jason Witten now no longer being with the team. We

637
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 1: talked last week. I think we all answered the question

638
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: of whether we think it was a big loss or not.

639
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: My question for you this week is how does it

640
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: change or do you think it will change how they

641
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Speaker 1: play offense. Do you think that you might see a

642
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Speaker 1: little more or a little less two tight insets? Do

643
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 1: you see a little bit more a little bit less passing?

644
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Speaker 1: With Jason Witten no longer in the mix. How do

645
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: you think there'll be well, what do you think the

646
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 1: changes will look like? Let's start first with you Nick.

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Speaker 1: You know, I had a good conversation with Bucky Brooks,

648
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Speaker 1: who's been doing a lot of work with us, if

649
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: you've seen on the site some scouting reports and stuff,

650
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: and he actually has another one coming up here in

651
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 1: the near future about McCarthy and his history with tight

652
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: ends and just the type of tight ends that they

653
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: like to use, a lot more athletic, a lot more

654
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: of an athletic build for for that position, and kind

655
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 1: of why why does he want to stretch him out?

656
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: What is he trying to do with all these mismatches,

657
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 1: and so just you know that alone, I think Blake

658
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: Jarwin will give you a little bit more mismatches. You know,

659
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: Jason Witten wasn't there anymore with with anybody that you were,

660
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: you know that was really worried about him as as

661
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: a route runner. Um. But I just think that when

662
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: it comes to it, I think that they still need

663
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: a little bit of help there. Um. If I could

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Speaker 1: pronounce his name, I would throw it out there. But

665
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: is it Cole Hiccottini watch out for him. He was

666
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: on the practice squad last year. Watch out for him

667
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: as a guy that could that could maybe unseat Dalton

668
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: Schultz's role. I think that I think he might have

669
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Speaker 1: a good chance to make the team. All right, Amber,

670
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: So right now, does I always have what Blake Jarwin,

671
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 1: Blake Bell they got. They just had Dalton Scholtz and

672
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: then that guy you mentioned, Yeah, I mean Hiccottini was

673
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: on the practice squad. Yeah, and that's basically it. Obviously.

674
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Speaker 1: I mean, Rico, no, give it another try. No, But

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Speaker 1: I think you know, I am. I'm confident on what

676
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin can bring to the game. I think that

677
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: given the chance and given more reps, he can become

678
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: into a better player and do more for you and

679
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: for the offense. But as far as bodies and experience,

680
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: I don't feel a ton like I don't feel that great.

681
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: I think that Dad needs the help to meet the

682
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: quarterback that I've seen from him. It's like he's the

683
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: type of quarterback that needs all the help that he

684
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: can get from those elements of the offense. So he

685
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: definitely needs on it. He needs a tight end that

686
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: he can trust, like Jarwin has shown to be that.

687
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: But for example, when you talk about Dalton Schultz, a

688
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: guy that they drafted a couple of years ago. I

689
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: don't think he's a guy. Honestly, I don't remember anything

690
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: from Dalton Schultz. I don't remember a single play, to

691
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 1: be honest, I don't think he's done much and that

692
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: what there isn't one. Well, there you go. I don't

693
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: I think I'm ready to move on from that and

694
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: bring someone else. I think that they can definitely get

695
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Speaker 1: a guy from the draft and have him compete with

696
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Speaker 1: Sholz for a spot, and that's easy to do based

697
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: on what we've seen in the past. So as of

698
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: right now, I don't feel super excited about the tight

699
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: end position, but I have hopes in Blake Jarwin and

700
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: what he can do in the future. Right Dave, I'm

701
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 1: intrigued and excited because I don't I mean, this sounds

702
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: harsh to say about Jason Witten. He was he was

703
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: fine last year and in the final few years of

704
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: his career, but like, it's not like the tight end

705
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: position has just been this like crazy boon of productivity

706
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: for the last five years. So I don't think there's

707
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: anywhere for it to go. But up we talked last week,

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00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think Jarwin is Travis Kelsey, but

709
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: he can stretch the defense, he can get downfield. We've

710
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: seen him thrive in the seam, he's great after the catch.

711
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: All of that's really intriguing. And then Blake Bell really

712
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: interests me because of how versatilely is. You know, obviously

713
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: he's played tight end in the league, but I'm very

714
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: confident he could do some h back stuff. And obviously

715
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: he's got a history playing quarterback, so that there's like

716
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,479
Speaker 1: the added elements of the unknown. Not that he's gonna

717
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: play significant reps, but I don't know. You could probably

718
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,479
Speaker 1: do some fun stuff in the goal line in short

719
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: yard situations with a guy like that, So I'm intrigued.

720
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: It's definitely it's not a strength of this team, but

721
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: it'll be new and athletic, which is what they haven't

722
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: had in a while. So's I'm optimistic to see what

723
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: that looks like. Talk to me a little bit about

724
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz. He's a guy that the Cowboys jaf a

725
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: few years ago. Last year, I mean, I don't know,

726
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 1: I still haven't seen a lot from him that suggests

727
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: to me that he's got to be a real player

728
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: in this league. Have you guys seen anything that suggests

729
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: he's a guy maybe for the future for the Cowboys

730
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: or the future would be now for him. Uh, there's

731
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: opportunity there that he could jump up and seize. Let's start. Yeah,

732
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: go ahead, No, I don't think. I mean I figured

733
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: this has to be me or Dave about what we've seen,

734
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: because clearly, you know she hasn't seen anything. Who has

735
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Speaker 1: I mean really, I mean it's not it's not well,

736
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: I mean, but it's not wrong. I mean, like, he

737
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: really hasn't from it for a fourth round pick, you know,

738
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: and he didn't contribute a whole lot on special teams either,

739
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: So you know, for him, getting stronger was was the

740
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: you know, what he needed to do. He needed to

741
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: get to get stronger so he could be an adequate

742
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: backup tight end. That second tight end has got to

743
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: be a guy that that could be out in the

744
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: field to end short yardage, to help block and not

745
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: be a liability. So you know, he's had an interesting

746
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,959
Speaker 1: career so far, just because you know, he got caught

747
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 1: up in the he was drafted. But yeah, some people

748
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: wanted Rico and so what do they do with these

749
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: third and fourth tight ends, and he played half the

750
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: snaps he probably should because Rico was getting some so

751
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: he kind of kind of got caught up in all that.

752
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: But if he was clearly better, he would have played,

753
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: and he wasn't. So that's but you see, you know,

754
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: when we talked about Luke Giffer earlier, he's a guy

755
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: that we didn't really get to see much of it,

756
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: but when we did, we saw sparks of it. With Dalton,

757
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: I feel like I never got to see a spark,

758
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 1: not even a training cap. I never got to see

759
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: something that made me want to keep seeing more, or

760
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: you know, feeling like, oh, you know what, maybe if

761
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: they give him more reps he can turn into this.

762
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: I never got any of that from the times that

763
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: I did get to watch him. That the side, so

764
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 1: I'll say this, and Nick has brought it up before,

765
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: is just I can't I can't rule anything out just

766
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: because of the changing coaching staff. So you know, Mike

767
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 1: McCarthy and his staff could look Dalton, Chalton be like Jesus,

768
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: why did these guys have you doing this stuff? Like

769
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: we got a completely different idea of what we think

770
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: you should be doing. Having said that, if you're a

771
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: fourth round pick. I expect to have seen something intriguing

772
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: from you in two years, so the fact that I

773
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: haven't doesn't make me optimistic. But you know, maybe a

774
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: new coaching staff can turn things around for him. Yeah,

775
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: I actually think about that from the standpoint of what

776
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: was being said earlier, Nick, that you said Bucky Brooks

777
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: talked about, and how Mike McCarthy likes athletic tight ends.

778
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: If he has that level of athleticism, my question would be,

779
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 1: why wouldn't we have seen that in some way over

780
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: these years? And I don't know that I can remember

781
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: a moment even in training camp or practices where I've

782
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: seen Dalton Scholt show me a certain level of athleticism

783
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: that made me think he's a really athletic guy that

784
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: maybe just wasn't being used in the right way. And

785
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: quite frankly, the fact that they signed Blake Bill suggested

786
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: to me that's even more of a reason why they

787
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: felt like they needed a real second tight end, somebody

788
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: who could legitimately be a good blocker for them. And

789
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Speaker 1: I think you're gonna actually end up seeing Blake Bell,

790
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: but your second tight end, wait, more than you're gonna

791
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: see Dalton Scholtz, and that to me is an indictment

792
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: on kind of who he is and maybe what they

793
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,880
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00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: hold on when they might they might, I mean, like

852
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: get to practice and these guys see like maybe they

853
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: don't like what Cooper Rush has or doesn't. We're no

854
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: towards the end of train. Okamp, Yes, that's actually a

855
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: good point, Nick, because I keep I keep just falling

856
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: into this fallacy of well they don't do that. They

857
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: love Rush, and I forget the fact that they are

858
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: no longer here. So yeah, maybe maybe they do. Maybe

859
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: they do get into some practices to start realizing that

860
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: maybe Cooper Rush isn't necessarily what they want from a backup,

861
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: or maybe they feel like they need a little more

862
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: insurance in the event DA goes down. They want to

863
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: keep developing Cooper Rush, but they want somebody else to

864
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: be there their primary backup. Right, see what happened in

865
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 1: the draft. I hate myself for even saying this out loud.

866
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm like the conductor of the DAK train. I firmly

867
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: believe he needs to be paid. But like, what's going

868
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: on with Cam Newton? What's what's the deal here? Like?

869
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: I really wow, I'm I'm there's my headline for the

870
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: for the art show, right, we're gonna go all in

871
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 1: on it. I'm just curious why a former NFL MVP

872
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: who is only thirty one can't find a job. Like

873
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: that's crazy to me. And I know he was hurt,

874
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: and I know he more than anybody, needs to be

875
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: healthy to be effective because mobility is such a big

876
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: part of his game. But like, nobody even wants to

877
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: kick the tires on an NFL MVP. And I don't

878
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: think you know I'm how expensive tis well, I don't know.

879
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd rather have Cam Newton than Nick Foles, right,

880
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: am I crazy? Well, But here's the deal. I think

881
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 1: that's the interesting part about it is I think, yes,

882
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: he is a he is a better quarterback than a

883
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: lot of quarterbacks around the NFL. I think the issue

884
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: for him becomes, like Nick says, obviously the price tag

885
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: is part of it, but the second part of it

886
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: is your offense has to change if you're going to

887
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: be able to best utilize the skill set that he

888
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: brings to the table. And I don't know that every

889
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: coach is willing to say we're going to totally revamp

890
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: what we do, not let alone we have the right

891
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: personnel to match up with that. But you have to

892
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: kind of change what you do because this skill set

893
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: is not your is not. I don't think if you've

894
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: got to utilize the skills very well, at least what

895
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: he's been so far in his career, I think you

896
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: have to change things up, and I don't know if

897
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: everybody's willing to do that. And also I don't think

898
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: he can continue to play at what he's done and

899
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: continue to play in this league three or four more

900
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 1: years doing that type of being another running back out there.

901
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: Like I think he would have to be more of

902
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: a pocket passer guy, and that's really not his thing either.

903
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: So he's kind of in a little bit of a

904
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: crossroads of his career to like, does he want to

905
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: continue to do that, because that's what's been banging him

906
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: up is just the way he plays. He does not

907
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: played like a quarterback. He plays like a you know,

908
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: bulldozing running back, and you know, he catches up to everybody.

909
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: I am not saying that I think the Cowboys should

910
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 1: do this. I think they should pay Dak Prescott. I

911
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: can't believe it hasn't happened by now, but I am

912
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: at least a little bit intrigued by the idea of

913
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: paying Cam Newton a lot less and building up the

914
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: team around him and actively try to draft a quarterback

915
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: while he's doing that. If he's not good, then you

916
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: know you're spending first, second, or third round picks on

917
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: quarterbacks the next few years. That's what makes it scary.

918
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: That's why the Cowboys shouldn't do it. But if you

919
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: told me that I could sign Cam for like, I

920
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: don't know, somewhere between twenty and twenty eight mill a year,

921
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: what makes you think that Cam's gonna be that Cam's

922
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot less? That's a good question. I

923
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: mean I don't have an answer to that. Because he's

924
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: out of work and the markets dried up, that's all. Like,

925
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you're right. I mean, the guy's been to

926
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: however many Pro Bowls and won an NFL MVP, like

927
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 1: he should be able to command a lot more, but

928
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 1: he's sitting out there unemployed right now. So yeah, I

929
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: just look at it as I think, no matter what

930
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: I think, a lot of these guys, especially guys, and

931
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: rightfully so, for a guy like Cam is a former MVP,

932
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: he's taking his team to a super Bowl, I don't

933
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: think he necessarily is the type of guy that's just

934
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: gonna settle because he's on the street right now. I

935
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: think he'll probably wait it out as he should and

936
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: get maybe not max value, but certainly get good value.

937
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think he would end up

938
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: in a situation where he's taking twenty twenty eight million

939
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: dollars a year. I think you might be able to

940
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: get him for thirty two, maybe thirty three, but I

941
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna be coming in really really cheap

942
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 1: for who he is. I don't know about that, dude,

943
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: thirty two or thirty three. I mean, those averages are

944
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: based off of four to five year deals. If he

945
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: doesn't get something like that, I don't think he's gonna

946
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: get a one year thirty two. I mean, I don't

947
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: even know if that. Yeah, I just don't know if

948
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are going to continue to do that with

949
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: Dak on this one year thirty two. I don't even

950
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: see that happening. But I think what Cam will do

951
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: is sit there and wait for that one quarterback to

952
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: get hurt, because there will be one or two, and

953
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: then when that happens, it'll be like, oh, do they

954
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: go get camp because some and so just got injured.

955
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: Like I said, I still think paying Dak is the

956
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: right course of action. But that is one situate. Like

957
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: It's just it's interesting to me, Like, I think you

958
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: could build a winning football team around Cam Newton, and

959
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: I think it's even at this point of his career.

960
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: I think you could. And I think it's weird that

961
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: nobody seems to warn him right now. Definitely agreed there.

962
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: I agree that with that. Well, another guy that nobody

963
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: seems to warn right now, but a guy that I

964
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: need to bring up once again because a lot of

965
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,959
Speaker 1: people send me this question. Is this Brian, especially after

966
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: all these social media videos that have been going out

967
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:48,959
Speaker 1: of him practicing with Dak Prescott catching some passes. Shoot,

968
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: the Cowboys signed Dez Ceo. No, no, no, no, they

969
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: should shouldn't. They don't need that guy. They don't need him.

970
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: M let's I mean, I'm inclining he was a declining

971
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: player before a torn at Kelly's injury. I just what

972
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: makes his think that he's going to be a he's

973
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: gonna have a resurgence now and he hasn't shown the

974
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: ability to be in This guy that is great in

975
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: the locker room and he's gonna be okay with one

976
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 1: pass for six yards and a loss that that doesn't

977
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 1: seem to be like a guy that the Cowboys would need.

978
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: I will say this, though, I don't know that. I

979
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: give everybody room to change and grow, and maybe he

980
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: has a different mindset now than he had when he

981
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: was a younger player. That happens so a lot of us.

982
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 1: We grow up, we become a little more mature, we

983
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 1: have a little different outlook on things. But I just

984
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: look at it and say, I don't know that practically

985
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: it fits. You're right now, if you look at the

986
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: receiving position, you think the Cowboys need depth, you think

987
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 1: the Cowboys need a slot receiver. I don't think de

988
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: Dez provides either one of those two things. And when

989
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: I talk about death depth, I'm talking about also kenn

990
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: a guy play special teams. We know des will not

991
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: be playing special teams. So are you telling me that

992
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: you're gonna have You're gonna add another guy that might

993
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 1: be fourth on your depth chart that doesn't play special teams.

994
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 1: I just I don't see whether there's a good fit

995
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: here unless something happens to one of your top two

996
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: receivers and you feel like, for whatever reason, Desk can

997
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: play that role. I don't think Des comes in and

998
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: immediate becomes a slot receiver when that's not something he's

999
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: traditionally done. I don't think he's gonna be your fourth

1000
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: guy because I don't think he can play special teams.

1001
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 1: So I don't think there's a fit for Dez right

1002
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: now based upon how this roster is currently constructed. I

1003
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: thought it was really funny. I get you know, if

1004
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: you've been on social media, it's making the rounds. I mean,

1005
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: Dak has been working out with Dez, which you know

1006
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:52,879
Speaker 1: obviously not following the social distancing guidelines. But on top

1007
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: of that, just interesting that Dak is throwing with Dez

1008
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: at Dallas area gyms right now. But the word going

1009
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: around is that Dak was telling somebody, you know, we

1010
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: need to get this guy on a team, not my team,

1011
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: not our team, like the franchise quarterback of the Cowboys,

1012
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: who you would think has that kind of sway. It

1013
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: was like, Des needs to be on a team, but

1014
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: not necessarily my team. I had this argument with Jeff

1015
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: Kavanaugh last night, like, if you want to bring in

1016
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: Dez to be the fourth receiver and go on the

1017
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: field in the red zone and be a mismatch guy, Okay,

1018
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: like you. I mean, that's fine. I don't think you

1019
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: need to as but if you're going to do that,

1020
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: you need to draft a young, versatile receiver who you

1021
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 1: intend to be your third starter. Like I Dez Bryant

1022
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: doesn't need to have a starters workload at this point

1023
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: in his career. Like if you were going to do it,

1024
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: it would be as like a situational guy. But to

1025
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 1: Derek's point, that's just not smart roster building. I just

1026
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 1: I don't see it. I can't rule it out completely

1027
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: because Jerry owns hasn't but I don't see it, and

1028
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: I don't think at all I will throw out this

1029
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: one caveat though I will throught this one caveat though

1030
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 1: we do know that they're gonna that there's some changes

1031
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: to the rules in the NFL with regards to rosters

1032
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: and who can be on the roster and how many

1033
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: players you can have. There are a couple of extra

1034
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 1: spots you can have. Maybe the Cowboys have the ability

1035
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 1: to be able to make him their fourth ride receiver

1036
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: and not having play special teams and having be a

1037
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 1: specialty gadget type guy because of the fact that they

1038
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: have those extra roster spots maybe that works. I don't know.

1039
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: All I know is based upon what we've known traditionally

1040
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 1: about how a roster is built. I just don't see

1041
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: how he would fit in that construct, all right. So,

1042
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: clearly seeing all these promotions help promoting with all these

1043
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: videos working out with Dad hasn't changed your opinion on

1044
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,959
Speaker 1: him signing with the Cowboys. But we'll see what happens there.

1045
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: Here's the next question. Do you guys think that McCarthy

1046
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: will have more say in how the Cowboys do the

1047
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 1: draft this year compared to Jason Garrett? So basically, does

1048
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: McCarthy have a bigger voice in the draft room than

1049
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: what Garrett was able to do in previous years? C No,

1050
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: as ay, see, I think he will because I think

1051
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: he's trying to let everybody know his scouts, his coaches,

1052
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 1: what kind of team, what kind of players he wants.

1053
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: He's the one that said scheme doesn't matter as much

1054
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: as having good football players, and I think the head

1055
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 1: coach needs to make sure and let everyone know what

1056
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: type of football player he's looking for. What does the

1057
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboy player look like in his mind? And so yes,

1058
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: I think he will have a little bit more say

1059
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: in that, but I think Garrett did as well. But

1060
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 1: I think I think McCarthy will probably have a little

1061
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: bit more say because they'll be looking. This is his

1062
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: first class to really build and shape what type of

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00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: team he wants. I agree, but I don't. I don't

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00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: think he'll have a larger voice than Garrett did. I

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00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: think he'll have a larger voice than what he's used

1066
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 1: to having, because I think his arrangement in Green Bay

1067
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: with Ted Thompson was like Ted Thompson was like, I'll

1068
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: buy the groceries and you make the dinner, whereas it's

1069
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: always been a way more collaborative process here, even to

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00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: the point where you would might argue the coaches had

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00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: too loud of a voice. So I don't think he'll

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00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: have a louder voice than Garrett did. I think he'll

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00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: just have a louder voice than what he's used to

1074
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: And I agree wholeheartedwood Day, That's exactly what I was

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00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: gonna say. So all right, since we don't fully know

1076
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,439
Speaker 1: quite yet how this draft is going to go down,

1077
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: there's a lot of possibilities of it happening, virtruly, because

1078
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: of the change in the process of how things are

1079
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: handled in this year's draft. Do you expect that to

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00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: mess up with the trading process and how teams start

1081
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: trading this year? No, see, not at all. Go ahead, Derek.

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00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: I think one of the things, one of the things

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00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: that I've learned, one of the things that I've learned

1084
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: just in what we do over these last three weeks

1085
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: is if you're if you're somewhat good at your job,

1086
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: you learn how to adapt. They're always going to be

1087
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,919
Speaker 1: varying circumstances that change the dynamics of what you do,

1088
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: and if you're good at what you do, you'll adapt

1089
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: and you'll be just as good, if not better, under

1090
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: those new circumstances. Now, of course, this whole situation is

1091
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: a very different type of circumstance, but we've seen these

1092
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: types of these types of disruptions before. Again, not the

1093
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: same thing, but disruptions where what you're used to being

1094
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: able to do you no longer can do. And so

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00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: I think the company to the teams that are really

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00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: good at technology, the teams that are really good at

1097
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: knowing how to take advantage technology, they'll be just as good,

1098
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: if not better, this draft as they've ever been. Maybe

1099
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: some of those teams that aren't maybe they won't be,

1100
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: but I don't think this will change things for most

1101
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: teams that are adept at being able to run their business.

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00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: You know what I've learned in the last three weeks,

1103
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 1: even like setting up a podcast between four people remotely

1104
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: has its fair share of hiccups. We've had them every

1105
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: single time we've tried to do this show. We worked

1106
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: it out, but it still happens every week, every single time.

1107
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: And it's understandable. But thirty two teams and the general

1108
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: managers and coaches of those teams are mostly of an

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00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: age where like they didn't grow up with this kind

1110
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: of technology. They're not used to it. I think it's

1111
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: going to be a mess. I think people are going

1112
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: to be screwing up all kinds of stuff. Because it's

1113
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: so many moving parts to coordinate remotely, there's bound to

1114
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: be some flub ups. I don't know what exactly is

1115
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: going to happen, but I expect it to be a

1116
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: total cluster. Well, the one thing we do know about

1117
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: this is you can always clear all those by just

1118
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: picking up your phone and making a phone call right like,

1119
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 1: so if there's ever a mix up with the other technology,

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01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: the phone still works. You can still pick it up

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01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 1: and say, hey, man, thinking about this trade, what are

1122
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: you thinking? You want to do it? And then figure

1123
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: it all out from there. So but Derek doesn't go

1124
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: like that. Jerry has two phones. He's got Cleveland over

1125
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 1: here with a second and a fifth. He's got the

1126
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: Jets on a second and a fourth and they want

1127
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: this player, and what about to call the Chargers back?

1128
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: And you've got all that going on. How many phones

1129
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 1: do you think you'll have this year? I don't know more.

1130
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: But he won't have he won't have Steven and Will

1131
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: and those guys in the room with him. Maybe you will.

1132
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: I don't know how it's gonna set up, but I mean,

1133
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: I agree with Dave, I agree with both of you. Yes,

1134
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna be better than we think, but there's still

1135
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 1: gonna be all of those things we're talking about. There's

1136
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: a fifteen minute time limit on the thing, and all

1137
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: of a sudden you're like, okay, just just doo the pick.

1138
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: I think you'll see more safer picks, and you'll see

1139
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: a little bit less trading because it's gonna be chaotic. Yeah,

1140
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: there'll be some adjustments, no doubt about it. I just

1141
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: I have a feeling that teams that Again, if you're

1142
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: good at your business and you know how to make adjustments,

1143
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 1: you might have some some areas where you're like, oh,

1144
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: that didn't quite work as we expect it, but you'll

1145
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 1: figure it out and you'll be able to come out

1146
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: with a similar to the same product as what you

1147
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 1: were able to come out with before. I just I

1148
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: believe the situations like this or opportunities to show just

1149
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: how good you can be at what you do. And

1150
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: I think there will be some teams at rise of

1151
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 1: that occasion be a big draft for Ben. Yeah, guy,

1152
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: that's my yeah. Ben. Ben is phenomenal and you can

1153
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: see him every year at the draft. You can see

1154
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: him all over the feed helping everybody. But if he's

1155
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: got to do that right, right, if he's got to

1156
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: do it via phone, what the hell is going to happen?

1157
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: I like, I just think they're like, there's some teams

1158
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: are like, there's gonna be like a missed pick or two.

1159
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 1: There's gonna be some flow trades. I bet you we

1160
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: won't even know most of the chaos because it'll be

1161
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: in the form of like failed trades that never made

1162
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: the public eye because it fell right because of bad

1163
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: commune occation. I just yeah, because the forty nine er

1164
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 1: signal is busy. Yeah, like, wait, where's our WiFi? What's

1165
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: going on? One thing? The one thing I do know

1166
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: is I think this is shaping up to be one

1167
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: heck of a deep blue documentary. So yeah, Nick, get

1168
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: on that. That was gonna be. This one's gonna be really,

1169
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: really good. I'm just worried how we're gonna do our

1170
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: draft like we're gonna do our coverage and our stuff

1171
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:24,959
Speaker 1: in twenty years, Nick, you and I have never spent

1172
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: draft day away from each other. This is gonna be

1173
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: very very different for me. We don't have to. I mean, like, no,

1174
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: we do. We're following the rules. We do. All right, Well,

1175
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: it's gonna be very interesting. But I think we ran

1176
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 1: out of time right now, so Derek just go ahead

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01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: and close it out. All right. We appreciate you. We

1178
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: enjoyed the game, c And no, we'll pick that back

1179
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,919
Speaker 1: up next week. We'll finish off that game next week

1180
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: and answer some more questions. We do appreciate you, guys.

1181
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: They'll take a time with us today, talk a little

1182
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: football until next week. For Nick, even Dave helm and

1183
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: Amber Garcia. I am Derek Eagelson. This has been the

1184
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 1: Break live on dllascowboys dot Com Radio. This has been

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01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:08,240
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01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:08,959
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