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Speaker 4: Welcome home, y'all.
Speaker 1: We're welcoming to the stage Congressoman Maxine Waters. This is
Speaker 1: a very special guest because she happens to be Angela
Speaker 1: Rized Mentor, so this is an exciting time to have
Speaker 1: her join. She's also the ranking member of the Financial
Speaker 1: Services Committee in the House of Representatives. And when we
Speaker 1: say ranking member, that's because Democrats do not control the
Speaker 1: lower chamber in Congress right now.
Speaker 4: So when should Democrats.
Speaker 1: Take back the House, she will become the Chair of
Speaker 1: Financial Services.
Speaker 4: But what touches me about.
Speaker 1: This moment, Angela, is that we are welcoming your mentor
Speaker 1: to this set. And I know how much of this
Speaker 1: moment must mean to you to have her.
Speaker 3: Here, absolutely, and and and just so you all know,
Speaker 3: as you see her walk up here in her stilettos.
Speaker 2: She still got her.
Speaker 3: She she put a little bag up.
Speaker 5: She does her marches and her protests like this.
Speaker 2: Honey, that's that's right, Queen. I'm good.
Speaker 6: I'm absolutely enthused for the first time in a long time.
Speaker 6: You know, I usually don't get excited, you know, I
Speaker 6: usually don't get with the masses when they're talking about yeah,
Speaker 6: ya yay, things are so good.
Speaker 2: But I am inspired, you know, I really am.
Speaker 6: And I feel like a cloud is being lifted because
Speaker 6: Trump has been just such a nasty, dirty, deplorable human
Speaker 6: being that he has caused us to build almost pressed
Speaker 6: and so I feel that this cloud is being lifted
Speaker 6: and we have an opportunity to go forward with some hope.
Speaker 7: As an Ogmus Waters, you know, who has seen America
Speaker 7: change so much throughout your lifetime. You know, how does
Speaker 7: it feel as a black woman to see another black
Speaker 7: woman in a position to potentially be the next brother?
Speaker 6: Well, you know, I really do feel that change has
Speaker 6: come about.
Speaker 2: I really do think that we're in.
Speaker 6: A period of time where we're seeing America face the
Speaker 6: truth about the citizens of this country and the fact
Speaker 6: that they have been excluded and denied. And you have competent, capable,
Speaker 6: talented women men and women, but black women who have
Speaker 6: really been undermined us consistently in this country now rising
Speaker 6: to the position of power and influence. So I feel
Speaker 6: really good about being a black woman right now.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 3: Well, you know the thing that I think is so
Speaker 3: important about this moment, congress Woman, is I've watched you
Speaker 3: labor a long time, and before that you were still laboring.
Speaker 3: You've done the work from divestment in apartheid in South
Speaker 3: Africa to paving the way for moments like this. Yes,
Speaker 3: do you feel like you can celebrate some of your work?
Speaker 3: I know you're not done, but do you feel like,
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm just gonna take this all in
Speaker 3: because I know this wouldn't have happened without my contribution.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what I feel. I really do feel.
Speaker 6: I want the young people to know and understand the
Speaker 6: history from which we have come, and the struggles that
Speaker 6: we have faced and the sacrifices that we have made. Oftentimes,
Speaker 6: you know, they think that everything is new, that it's
Speaker 6: just happening now, or because they have arrived. But I
Speaker 6: am grateful for their arrival. But I want them to
Speaker 6: know what has gone into them getting to this point.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I asked Secretary for it the same thing. And
Speaker 7: I want to ask you as well, how different is
Speaker 7: this moment now as opposed to twenty sixteen with Hillary.
Speaker 6: Well, I think if the fact that it's a black
Speaker 6: woman is different, you know what I'm saying. This is
Speaker 6: something that America never dreamed really about.
Speaker 2: I never thought about the possibility of.
Speaker 6: And so yes, Hillary was a woman and had women
Speaker 6: behind her, Black women, white women.
Speaker 2: Women, you know, hoping that she could be president.
Speaker 6: But to have a black, capable, competent woman whose career
Speaker 6: has led us to this point, who has done everything
Speaker 6: anybody could have told her that she should have done
Speaker 6: in order to get to this point in her life,
Speaker 6: in our lives, it's different, and it's inspiring, it's motivational,
Speaker 6: and it's like, you know, you can sit back and
Speaker 6: you can watch it and you can say, yeah, we
Speaker 6: knew that someday it might happen, but we weren't sure.
Speaker 2: But we're gonna keep on fighting for it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's it, Congresswoman. I'm across the hall over here. Well,
Speaker 8: we've we've been joined by a woman, a guest to
Speaker 8: be a graduated.
Speaker 4: I love it to be a movie I feel like.
Speaker 8: But before before we get to the governor, I just
Speaker 8: want to say, growing up in Florida and where I
Speaker 8: grew up, I didn't have a black representative in Congress.
Speaker 8: I didn't my my member of Congress uh uh was
Speaker 8: a Republican and I you know, we never met him,
Speaker 8: but I was. I was a nerd and would watch
Speaker 8: c Span as a sixth grader all the way through
Speaker 8: high school, and any time I would talk about my
Speaker 8: member of Congress, I would name check you because you
Speaker 8: were the voice for not just folks in southern California.
Speaker 8: You were advocating for black folks all over the country.
Speaker 8: When you took banks to task, when you took mortgage
Speaker 8: lenders surceass, when you when you held folks accountable for
Speaker 8: their racism, their redlining. You were doing that for everybody,
Speaker 8: not just South Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 8: So we want to thank you for that dedicated service.
Speaker 8: And now I want to ask you, because you're about
Speaker 8: to be the chairwoman of the Financial Services Committee when
Speaker 8: we take back the House of Representatives. I'm curious to
Speaker 8: know whether or not you've got a top three that
Speaker 8: you just got to when you get there, that you're
Speaker 8: going to be dismantling, raising up, expanding as you take leadership. There.
Speaker 6: Oh my goodness, thank you so very much, Firt. Thank
Speaker 6: you for thanking me for the work that I have done.
Speaker 6: It was just part of what I signed up for,
Speaker 6: and I enjoyed every minute of it, and no matter
Speaker 6: the sacrifice, so the toughness, sometimes it was what.
Speaker 2: I was prepared to do. But let me tell you, I.
Speaker 6: Served as chair of the Financial Services Committee until we
Speaker 6: lost the House, and now I'm hopeful that I'll get
Speaker 6: that gabble back because once I got it back, I
Speaker 6: know what to do. And so let me tell you.
Speaker 6: Top on my agenda is housing. We have a housing
Speaker 6: crisis in this country. Every night in the Los Angeles
Speaker 6: Greater Los Angeles area, there's seventy thousand people on the streets.
Speaker 6: In this country, there are seven hundred and fifty three
Speaker 6: thousand people sleeping on the streets at night. We have
Speaker 6: a housing crisis in this country, and we can do better.
Speaker 6: As a matter of fact, in addition to the bills
Speaker 6: that I have one hundred and fifty billion dollar bill,
Speaker 6: I've had a bill for three hundred and fifty billion dollars.
Speaker 6: It was killed by cinema and mansion, but we now
Speaker 6: have the bill redone one hundred and fifty billion dollars.
Speaker 6: We also have the President Biden who's already talking about
Speaker 6: creating new units, affordable units, and doing something I never
Speaker 6: thought I would agree to, and that is given tax
Speaker 6: credits to the developers who are willing to build affordable
Speaker 6: units and do it in such a way that not
Speaker 6: only are therefore, but they're safe and they're secure. They're
Speaker 6: not only in the inner cities, but they're in the
Speaker 6: rural areas, in suburbia and in all of the country
Speaker 6: because it's needed everywhere. So that's one of my top priorities.
Speaker 6: The second thing that we've got to do is we've
Speaker 6: got to make sure that the banks and financial institutions
Speaker 6: of this country, first of all, a paying the affair taxes.
Speaker 6: Number two, that they're not ripping us off with predatory lending.
Speaker 6: We've got to do more than we ever did with
Speaker 6: the Dodd Frank reforms and make sure we bring them
Speaker 6: in and we make sure that we move with diversity
Speaker 6: and inclusion and get some black people up in the
Speaker 6: c suites so that the influence that they can have
Speaker 6: to make things right in some of our banks. We've
Speaker 6: got some gangster banks, talk about oh absolutely.
Speaker 2: And they're stealing from us every day. So I want
Speaker 2: to make sure I do that.
Speaker 6: But we've got to move forward with AI, artificial intelligence,
Speaker 6: cryptocurrency and all of these things that are new to
Speaker 6: us that we've got to get more you know, learned
Speaker 6: too mad to learn more about. And so it's a
Speaker 6: lot of work that you have to do on financial services.
Speaker 6: But I'm ready to do it.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
Speaker 5: Congress, are you saying I know that we that we
Speaker 5: that we have not limited time because they have you
Speaker 5: doing all the things. I see her team over here
Speaker 5: and you're okay, they said, but Governor this as well.
Speaker 1: So this is Governor Breten a big miss and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make Angela a little jealous over here because I
Speaker 1: got a gift.
Speaker 4: I got the whole.
Speaker 5: I got the whole, so I get to hold this.
Speaker 1: Yes, the governor has very kindly brought us a gift.
Speaker 4: This is the lip Bar.
Speaker 1: It is a black owned business CEO Melissa Butler, who's
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Speaker 1: A girl amazing, Yes, she has been so supportive.
Speaker 4: To us, called big Gut brought. I love it. It's literally.
Speaker 1: So thank you so much, Governor. We're so honored to
Speaker 1: have you with us. You were the talk of the
Speaker 1: town for a while when all this conversation came. And
Speaker 1: I want to ask because we have a very diverse
Speaker 1: audience listening tonight, and it's so significant to have Vice
Speaker 1: President Harris as sind to this level. There is some
Speaker 1: conversation about a divide among us as women. You know,
Speaker 1: will women who you know previously supported Trump white? Will
Speaker 1: will white women consider thank you, Leonard. I appreciate that
Speaker 1: white women who had previously not voted in their interests,
Speaker 1: or perhaps voted in their interests, if we're honest about
Speaker 1: what some of their interest is, will they consider this
Speaker 1: a victory for them as well, that a woman has
Speaker 1: ascended to this ticket. Not that you speak for all
Speaker 1: white Let me real quick disclaimer.
Speaker 4: I do not speak for all white women. This wait woman,
Speaker 4: this white woman is so excited. My kids are excited.
Speaker 9: I'm here with my two daughters, are twenty two and
Speaker 9: twenty years old, and I remember driving to Philadelphia in
Speaker 9: the twenty sixteen convention and my kids were in the backseate.
Speaker 9: I thought, Oh my god, these girls have only known
Speaker 9: eight years of a black president, and we're on the
Speaker 9: cusp of a woman president. And these are two things
Speaker 9: I never could conceive of growing up in this country.
Speaker 9: And obviously twenty sixteen did not turn out the way
Speaker 9: I was hoping it would. We're as excited, if not more,
Speaker 9: about Kamala Harris and Tim Walls.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is a huge, huge.
Speaker 9: Chapter in America leaders who And yes, I'm excited because
Speaker 9: she's going to break the last very but I'm excited
Speaker 9: because she is the most qualified kid. She is strong,
Speaker 9: she has smart, she knows how to get shit done,
Speaker 9: and she is the type of person who's lived a
Speaker 9: life that we can relate to.
Speaker 4: You know, she's a normal person.
Speaker 9: She took care of her mom at the end of
Speaker 9: her life, she took care of her sisters' kids.
Speaker 4: At the game, there's she's going to deliver.
Speaker 9: And so I do think we can pull a lot
Speaker 9: of white women who maybe were on the sidelines or
Speaker 9: maybe went the other way thinking Trump would make their
Speaker 9: lives better than they realized.
Speaker 4: That's not the case, and.
Speaker 9: We're going to pull people more people into the pold.
Speaker 9: Right now, we're excited, we're feeling it. We got a
Speaker 9: lot of hard work to do in the state of Michigan.
Speaker 9: It is a dead heat right now, which is a
Speaker 9: vast improvement from where we were a month ago. But
Speaker 9: it's sobering when you think about how much work we
Speaker 9: got to do.
Speaker 7: I want no one to ask that said she had
Speaker 7: a the vice president had a three point lead on
Speaker 7: Trump in Michigan. What can she do to keep that
Speaker 7: momentum going and not fumble Michigan the way Hillary Clinton
Speaker 7: did in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 4: Well, hiring, we're on the ground in Michigan.
Speaker 9: I don't think anyone's gone I was gonna get that.
Speaker 9: No one's gonna take Michigan for granted. But you know,
Speaker 9: doing that voter contact it's so important. We cannot write
Speaker 9: anyone off. We can't make any assumptions that people, Okay,
Speaker 9: the black community is just going to show up because
Speaker 9: it's Kama Hairs.
Speaker 4: No, we got to do the work. We got to
Speaker 4: show up.
Speaker 9: We got to earn people's support, and that is true
Speaker 9: in every community, and so that's what we're doing.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I got a question for you and Queen Vaccine.
Speaker 7: You know, we know that a lot of Republicans probably
Speaker 7: won't certify the results of the election coming over them,
Speaker 7: But if it gets to the Supreme Court, in light
Speaker 7: of a lot of their recent rulings, I think they
Speaker 7: might overturn it if the Vice President wins. How concerned
Speaker 7: are y'all about?
Speaker 2: Are y'all about that?
Speaker 6: I'm very concerned that Trump has been able to put
Speaker 6: in place people in several states are in charge of
Speaker 6: the election system, and that's real. And some of them
Speaker 6: are going to be turning people away, some are going
Speaker 6: to be finding they did not dot the I across
Speaker 6: the t all kinds of little tricks, and so we've
Speaker 6: got to be on top of this. Not only do
Speaker 6: we have to have monitors, we have to anticipate when
Speaker 6: we learn things are going on. We have to move
Speaker 6: very quickly to get our lawyers out there, you know,
Speaker 6: challenging because I think this is real, that's right.
Speaker 2: Yes, I want to.
Speaker 1: Because Charlie wrote up a point about a fumble in Michigan,
Speaker 1: and I think it speaks right to the question about
Speaker 1: you know, will people accept election results that they don't like.
Speaker 1: You know first hand, Governor, about the dangers of fanatics
Speaker 1: and what I would call cult members who literally tried
Speaker 1: to kidnap you. Thank god their plan was foiled. But
Speaker 1: also in twenty sixteen, the seventy five thousand votes out
Speaker 1: of Detroit that were discounted. As you know, Hillary Clinton
Speaker 1: lost Michigan that year. Had she carried mission and she
Speaker 1: lost by ten thousand votes. Had she had those seventy
Speaker 1: five thousand votes out of Detroit been counted, she would
Speaker 1: have won Michigan and thus won the presidency. How concerned
Speaker 1: are you about the infrastructure of this country and voting
Speaker 1: voting rights and voter suppression when it comes to November
Speaker 1: and it being a fair playing field.
Speaker 4: Well, I am concerned about it. But I want to
Speaker 4: make a couple important points.
Speaker 9: We know, four years ago, when Donald Trump lost to
Speaker 9: Joe Biden by one hundred and fifty thousand votes, a
Speaker 9: landslide comparatively, he challenged the votes in Wayne County, not
Speaker 9: the other eighty two counties, but Wayne County.
Speaker 4: Where Detroit is based.
Speaker 9: So we know the game that they want to play.
Speaker 9: I'll just share this in twenty twenty two, I won
Speaker 9: reelection and we flipped both the House and Senate, and
Speaker 9: in the wake of that was just a one seat
Speaker 9: majority of both chambers. We enhanced our election laws. We
Speaker 9: made it easier for people to participate. You can vote
Speaker 9: three weeks in advance in person, no reason to absentee,
Speaker 9: Greater penalties for people that mess with and threatened election workers.
Speaker 9: These are good strides we've made. All that being said,
Speaker 9: we got to get ready because, as a Congressman said, now,
Speaker 9: one thing that I want to point out that I
Speaker 9: think should give us all, you know, some hope, not
Speaker 9: false hope, but some hope. Is in the most important
Speaker 9: swing states in the country. We got Tony Evers as
Speaker 9: the governor in Wisconsin. We got Josh Shapiro in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 9: We're Katie Hobbs in the Arizona. We got Roy Cooper
Speaker 9: in North Carolina, and me and Michigan. We got Democrats
Speaker 9: who are going to make sure these votes are protected
Speaker 9: and counted.
Speaker 4: It's still going to be a challenge, just going to
Speaker 4: be a challenge.
Speaker 9: If any of our opponents had been in the position
Speaker 9: were in I'd be a lot more work.
Speaker 8: I agree with you, Governor, and I think the beauty
Speaker 8: of it is is that we do have you there
Speaker 8: as hopefully feel safe. My concern is, as you know,
Speaker 8: most of these elections are run municipally at the county level,
Speaker 8: and you may have these conservative counties that may.
Speaker 4: Want a flaun.
Speaker 2: You know, the rule of law.
Speaker 8: You've got great secretary of State, so on and so forth.
Speaker 8: I am having been in Florida in two thousand, come
Speaker 8: from the state where the US Supreme Court waiting three
Speaker 8: four and said this is not President said it will.
Speaker 2: Never be repeated.
Speaker 8: We have got to be on guard. I think we've
Speaker 8: got to let everybody raise the symbol before they ever do.
Speaker 8: And I just want to say you have been an
Speaker 8: outstanding governor, holding the banner, look at these terrorists.
Speaker 4: Straight in the face and letting them bring it.
Speaker 9: I'm big wretch, was worried about making angry.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you so much come.
Speaker 9: To Michigan as we get closer to this election.
Speaker 4: We welcome you to do that.
Speaker 1: Thank you, congress woman, Thank you so much.
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