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Speaker 2: Safety is probably the number one concern driving an automobile.

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Speaker 2: Hello listeners, Ronanani and the Car Doctor at your service,

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Speaker 2: and safety in automobiles has improved drastically over the years.

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Speaker 2: Right if you compare a nineteen fifties automobile, Oh, I'll

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Speaker 2: make it. I'll make it a little easier a nineteen

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Speaker 2: sixties automobile to something modern day. The differences are night

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Speaker 2: and day, right, no kidding around. But in recent years,

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Speaker 2: and I don't think it's been that recent, and our

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Speaker 2: guest will be able to probably give us a better idea.

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Speaker 2: I would say within the last ten to twelve years,

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Speaker 2: a DOS has come along and this is a safety

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Speaker 2: system that helps keep us on track, helps keep the

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Speaker 2: car straight, and does a whole bunch of other things.

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Speaker 2: And if you've got a vehicle with a DOS, you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about. But before I go too

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Speaker 2: much further, Steve Dawson. He is the regional a DOS

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Speaker 2: training director for Hunter Engineering and we're happy to have him.

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Speaker 2: He is a nationally recognized expert. Steve, Welcome to the

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Speaker 2: car doctor, sir.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me Ron, I appreciate the opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Let's start at the beginning. What is a DOS. What

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Speaker 2: does it stand for? You know, if I'm a consumer,

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Speaker 2: if I'm driving a vehicle with ADOS, how will I

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Speaker 2: know what are the signs?

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Speaker 3: Well, so let's start out with what is ADS. So

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Speaker 3: it's advanced driver assists systems, which ironically actually started back

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Speaker 3: in the seventies when we started with some of our

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Speaker 3: first cruise controls, and they've been functions we've used over

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Speaker 3: the years of its cruise control or abs, brakes and

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Speaker 3: those kinds of things, but as in recent years, it's

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Speaker 3: really kind of come supercharged, and most of you will

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Speaker 3: know that as you're driving a car, you'll have bells, beats,

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Speaker 3: and buzzers, steeringwhel may vibrate, you might have a lighter

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Speaker 3: ding because of a car passing you in your blind spot,

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Speaker 3: or you get too close at an intersection and the

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Speaker 3: car beeps that he tells you to stop. So in

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Speaker 3: a lot of the cases people buy cars specifically, it

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Speaker 3: was she had a dealership yesterday and asking the sales

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Speaker 3: rep that how many customers come in asking for those systems?

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Speaker 3: And he said, over the last year it's changed drastically

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Speaker 3: that people are coming in saying, I want to buy

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Speaker 3: a car that has you know, the eight AS systems

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Speaker 2: Do they I wonder if they ask for it by name,

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Speaker 2: AID DOS or is it a safety system to them?

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Speaker 2: But I guess that's not necessarily relevant to this conversation.

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Speaker 2: You wonder how educated people are at this point because

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Speaker 2: they get in the car and you know, if you're

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Speaker 2: driving along in your car and you venture out of lane.

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Speaker 2: All kinds of things happen, right, and it just sort

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Speaker 2: of wakes everybody up, like, you know, oh wow, look

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Speaker 2: at this. It's it's telling me what I'm doing wrong.

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Speaker 2: Some of the common features Steve that a DOS may

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Speaker 2: be there in there. You know, it's in their mirrors,

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Speaker 2: it's in it's there's a front camera, back camera. Can

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Speaker 2: you walk us through some of the obvious stuff.

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Speaker 3: So, so typically, when if a car's got ad as systems,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna have a front camera, so you're gonna have

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Speaker 3: than it's gonna have two cameras. It's gonna have a

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Speaker 3: then you may have cameras or radars around on the

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Speaker 3: three hundred and sixty degree view and everybody thinks that, man,

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Speaker 3: how'd they get a drone flying over my car every

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Speaker 3: time I put it in reverse. Well, that's an eight

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Speaker 3: ASA system that allows for parking assistance or for guidance

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Speaker 3: But all of those are eight AS systems, and all

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Speaker 3: of those systems interact with all of the other systems

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Speaker 3: of your car. You're braking, systems, steering, you name it.

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Speaker 2: Subsequently, you do something to one system, it can affect ADOS, right,

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Speaker 2: So everything has to work together, communicate correct parts. I've

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Speaker 2: heard stories. I've seen it once, Incorrect wiper blades wipe

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Speaker 2: in front of the camera and create an ADOS problem.

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Speaker 2: Truth to that.

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Speaker 3: Steve absolutely was with one the other day that they

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Speaker 3: put a twenty four inch wiper blade on instead of

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Speaker 3: the twenty one that it called for, and it created

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Speaker 3: an issue. It turned on some lights every time that

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Speaker 3: wiper would go across the camera. Absolutely, we've had them

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Speaker 3: where people have put on those the stickers, you know,

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Speaker 3: back in the day in the seventies and eighties, we'd

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Speaker 3: put those stickers across the top of our windshield. We

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Speaker 3: would put those kind of things on and all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden, they have an eight ASS light. I had

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Speaker 3: my mother in law's a Subaru. She was driving up

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Speaker 3: to New Jersey and she put her easy pass on

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Speaker 3: and she put it in the wrong spot, blocked one

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Speaker 3: of the cameras, and her automatic cruise control didn't work,

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Speaker 3: and her crisp control didn't work as well as she

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Speaker 3: had about three or four lights on on the dashboard

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Speaker 3: because all of the eight as systems couldn't work because

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Speaker 3: one of the cameras was blocked.

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Speaker 2: ADOS isn't going away, right, Steve. For the people out

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Speaker 2: there thinking, hey, I want a simple car, I can't

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Speaker 2: wait for the day when they get rid of it,

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Speaker 2: AIDOS is really it's really the bridge between what we're

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Speaker 2: going to see we see automated vehicles now, but they're

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Speaker 2: going to become more mainstream in the coming years.

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Speaker 3: Correct, They're actually absolutely going to become more mainstream. But

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Speaker 3: it's also even without them becoming mainstream, the statistics are

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Speaker 3: there that it's saving lives, saving injuries, and reducing the

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Speaker 3: severity of crashes. So I don't see it going anywhere.

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Speaker 3: Every industry that's involved with it is getting benefits, and

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Speaker 3: ironically that's why the dealership. When I asked him about it,

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Speaker 3: he see, you know a lot of people come asking

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Speaker 3: for those systems because they know that they get an

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Speaker 3: Have you less likely to get in a severe crash?

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Speaker 2: Have you seen the stories that they pop up from

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Speaker 2: time to time that theoretically they kind of expand on

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Speaker 2: it and they say, you know, in the future world,

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Speaker 2: if everybody had a vehicle that was automated, fully aid

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Speaker 2: US equipped, you know, traffic lights would go away, traffic

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Speaker 2: would go away, they would be able to synchronize traffic better,

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Speaker 2: the amount of accidents would drop drastically to the point

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Speaker 2: that you know, it would affect the industry that there

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Speaker 2: wouldn't be as much collision work. And I've seen these

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Speaker 2: and I look at it and I say, is that fantasy, Steve?

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Speaker 2: Or is that a potential reality?

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Speaker 3: So actually, what's very near on the horizon is what

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Speaker 3: we call vita X technology, which is Vehicle to Everything technology.

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Speaker 3: So I'm on a group in Maryland that is the

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Speaker 3: Maryland Connected and Automated Vehicle Working Group that is built

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Speaker 3: with the IAHS and NTSB and DOT and all of those,

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Speaker 3: all of the federal alphabet SOUP agencies in and around

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Speaker 3: traffic related things, and they're working to where the traffic

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Speaker 3: lights would communicate with the cars. So imagine you're behind

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Speaker 3: a tractor trailer. You can't see anything in front of you,

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Speaker 3: but the traffic light tells your are that it's turning

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Speaker 3: you that it's you know, it's turning yellow. And from

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Speaker 3: that point then the car can start interacting and slow

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Speaker 3: the red light. Same thing with emergency vehicles, ambulances and

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Speaker 3: fire trucks coming up behind you, putting an alert on

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Speaker 3: that even goes the other way to a pedestrian walking

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Speaker 2: Oh, you know the pedestrian thing in the dark, dark road,

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Speaker 2: And I've read those reports pedestrians somebody stepping in front

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Speaker 2: It's it's phenomenal.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's one of the ironic things when it

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Speaker 3: of new cars now have automatic headlights where it automatic

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Speaker 3: the high beams come on as soon as light goes down,

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Speaker 3: a lot of people think that, oh, that was added

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Speaker 3: as a convenience factor. Well, the reality that was added

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Speaker 3: brake light is now on, your all your suspension and

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Speaker 3: you know, your stability control, your ABS light, all of

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Speaker 2: So wrong length wiper blades, wiping in front of the

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Speaker 2: camera and every day repair that can trigger a problem

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Speaker 2: with a DOS incorrect headlight bulbs. If I convert and

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Speaker 2: change a module and I don't do a calibration, that

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Speaker 2: can affect a DOS. What about what about other things?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 2: Can a wheel alignment or an incorrectly done wheel alignment,

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Speaker 2: can tire suspension work? Could windshield replacement affect a DOOS calibration?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Absolutely all of those will for various ways. Like

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Speaker 3: the industry because if we don't have clean enough glass

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Speaker 3: really just pressurized sand, it gets polished. If it doesn't

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Speaker 3: number was crooked. And I looked at the windshield and

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Speaker 2: So it's sort of you know, I don't know if

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Speaker 3: From the city streets.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for staying with us this hour. I'm running

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Speaker 2: He is with Hunter Engineering. He's their regional ADOS training

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Speaker 2: When we pulled away and took the pause, we wanted

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Speaker 2: Right they've had their vehicle repaired, it used to be

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Speaker 3: So that is one of the challenges right now. There

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Speaker 2: Should you know, consumers be concerned. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: Maybe sort of kind of.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's the challenging part. It's not really that you're

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Speaker 2: So this is probably the segue into static and dynamic calibration, right, Steve,

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Speaker 2: and you know from Hunter Engineering static and dynamic calibration. Steve,

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Speaker 3: So the dynamic ones are the nice thing is just

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Speaker 3: They can do a dynamic calibration. It's driving it down

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Speaker 3: of thing. To calibrate. It does require having the ability

434
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Speaker 3: to do twenty five to forty five miles an hour.

435
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 3: So as a consumer, you get your car back and

436
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 3: an extra twenty miles on it, they're like, hey, what's

437
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,199
Speaker 3: going on? It's probably because they were calibrating it. If

438
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 3: you've got telematics on and you can see where your

439
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 3: car is on your phone, you might be looking at

440
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 3: going why is this guy driving around my car? Well,

441
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 3: he's probably doing a dynamic calibration. And then there's static calibrations,

442
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 3: which is like the word where the car is sitting

443
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 3: still and we're setting that target at a known distance

444
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 3: in front of the car, known height, with a known

445
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 3: image for the car to the camera to kind of

446
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 3: focus on it, or the radar to shoot its radar

447
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 3: beam and back and make sure that it's pointed where

448
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 3: it thinks it should be pointed.

449
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 2: Right, and we say targets for everyone out there. You know,

450
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 2: imagine a bullseye, right. I can't think of a better

451
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,439
Speaker 2: way to describe this unless you've got something steep, but

452
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 2: imagine cameras.

453
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, the cameras are basically going to be some variation

454
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Speaker 3: of a black and white bullseye type image. And the

455
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 3: radar units are usually I like to call them trihedrals.

456
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 3: They're a little triangle basically that the radar shoots into

457
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 3: it and it bounces back and it gets a good

458
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 3: reading on it.

459
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Speaker 2: So when we talk about calibrating ados, it's either static

460
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 2: or dynamic. If we're doing static, we need targets, we

461
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 2: need probably more specialized equipment than dynamic. Dynamic is self learning,

462
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 2: but it still requires somebody to drive the vehicle with

463
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 2: a scan tool that's taking them through the process.

464
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 3: Fair comparison, yep, Absolutely dynamic. You're just putting it into

465
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Speaker 3: using a scan tool to put it in a learn

466
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,199
Speaker 3: mode basically, and then go and drive it in a

467
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 3: path that it can learn what it needs to learn.

468
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 2: So from Hunter Engineering's perspective. And I've seen the Hunter

469
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 2: system work and it works really well. The scan tool,

470
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Speaker 2: the targets, the way you guys have created you know,

471
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 2: you know the system I saw probably two years ago.

472
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 2: I'm sure it's been changed because Hunter is always improving.

473
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 2: It collapsed, it went into a corner. It would fit

474
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 2: into just about any size shop. There was some depth

475
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: of space space issues, but you know, this is something

476
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 2: the average shop can do, correct. I mean, it's not difficult,

477
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 2: it's just becomes another part of the process.

478
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, really any shop can do it. There's

479
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 3: sometimes there are some space constraints. If you've got a

480
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 3: shop that's you know, a traditional two bay three bay

481
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 3: gas station, it might be a little bit of a

482
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 3: challenge to be able to do it because you don't

483
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 3: have the space for the static calibrations. But you might

484
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 3: be able to get fifty percent of the cars done

485
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 3: that are coming into your shop, maybe even more if

486
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,439
Speaker 3: you're doing a lot of domestics, or you're doing a

487
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 3: lot of Mercedes or BMW or Volvos where they are

488
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 3: historically much more dynamic based, so you can get a

489
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 3: lot of them done without having any space concerns when

490
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 3: it comes to the statics depends on what you're doing.

491
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 3: You know, if you're doing a rearview mirror or a grill,

492
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 3: you probably have to have a little bit more space

493
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 3: because you have the three sixty cameras in turg It's

494
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 3: are pretty big. If you look at like a FOURD truck,

495
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 3: those mats are five feet wide. Each one of them

496
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 3: went on either side, so that's ten feet. They're about

497
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 3: a foot off of the truck on either side or

498
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 3: the vehicle and their biggest truck, the biggest thing would

499
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 3: be like a truck, which is another six feet wide,

500
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 3: So you're talking about with eighteen feet wide, and I

501
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 3: think the mats are forty five feet long or forty

502
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 3: eight feet long something like that. Right, So there's a

503
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 3: sizeable amount of space that needed if you're doing some

504
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 3: of those static calibrations.

505
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 2: You know, you mentioned something real quick before we take

506
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 2: another pause. We had a customer this week come by.

507
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: He has a fairly new I think a twenty five

508
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,360
Speaker 2: RAM pickup a FedEx truck. Took off the driver's side

509
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 2: review mirror and I had to explain to him it

510
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 2: needs a mirror, but obviously it's going to need an

511
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 2: ADOS calibration. It's an ADOS equipped vehicle and it has

512
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 2: to be done, and it kind of puts a whole

513
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 2: nother light on it for everybody out there. Well, I

514
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 2: knock my mirror off, what's the big deal. But it's

515
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 2: all part of it, right, yep.

516
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And so there's times he might have to say, hey,

517
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 3: I can't do your repair. Or there might also be

518
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 3: times we say, hey, I can do your repair, but

519
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 3: I got to do a dynamic calibration and is raining

520
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: tomorrow and I can't do it in the rain, or

521
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 3: I can't do it in the snow. So we're gonna

522
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 3: have to wait and do it a week or two later,

523
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 3: so we can have some different conversations.

524
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's these are the challenges we're facing. Hey, Steve,

525
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 2: we're gonna pull over and take a pause. When me

526
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: come back, I want to talk about some of the

527
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 2: OEM procedures. I want to talk about calibration equipment. Also

528
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 2: want to talk a little bit more about Hunter, because

529
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 2: they are at the forefront of this technology and what

530
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 2: you guys are doing to try and help and improve

531
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 2: the industry and keep us all safe. You sit tight,

532
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 2: I'm runing any in the car doctor. We're here with

533
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 2: Steve Dawson of Hunter Engineering. We'll return right after this.

534
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 2: We are kind of winding it down this hour. We've

535
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: still got a little bit more to go here with

536
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 2: Steve Dawson of Hunter Engineering, talk about ADOS, what it

537
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 2: is and how it affects you and your automobile. Steve Hunter,

538
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: Hunter Engineering has been at the forefront of ADOS technology.

539
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 2: You know, I see it and I'm not surprised, right,

540
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 2: you guys have the best wheel alignment equipment, the best

541
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 2: tire machine equipment, tire service equipment. You know how has

542
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: calibration equipment evolved as ADOS systems have become more sophisticated

543
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 2: and Hunter has kept up. Hunter has really led the pack.

544
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 2: And you know, how do you do it? What's cooking?

545
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 3: Well, you know, a lot of it is is the technology,

546
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 3: the camera technology, laser technology, it's you know, it's building

547
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,239
Speaker 3: a tool that follows the OEM process that exactly how

548
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 3: the OEMs do it. And our tool is certified by

549
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 3: many of the manufacturers as the way they want it

550
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 3: done because it helps the technician place the target in

551
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 3: the exact right place. It verifies that they put it

552
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 3: in the right place. And then it documents exactly where

553
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 3: it is in relationship to the car, so it protects

554
00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 3: the shop, you know, makes it easy for the technician

555
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 3: and protect the shop to make sure that that target

556
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 3: is right and it's documented, so god forbid they got

557
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 3: pulled in a cord or something like that, they'd have

558
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 3: the documentation for exactly where it is. And quite frankly,

559
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 3: like you said, with the alignment equipment, Hunter is a

560
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 3: measurement company. We've always you know, that's our main thing

561
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 3: is is measuring very finite measurements on our vehicle. And

562
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 3: that's exactly what we're doing here with with ADS calibrations

563
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 3: is making sure the targets are any exact right place

564
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 3: to make sure that the car is calibrated correctly, easier

565
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 3: for the technician, and it makes it that it's we

566
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: make sure that we're doing the right thing for our customer.

567
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 3: And we're utilizing equipment that is you know, backed by

568
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 3: the OEMs, that is that is using the right protocols

569
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 3: and things. It's not some you know, some scan tool

570
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 3: that you bought off of of some kind of an

571
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 3: online place or something like that. It's, uh, we we

572
00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 3: actually have all the OEM data and truly, you know,

573
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 3: the manufacturer that makes our scan tool for us makes

574
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 3: a lot of the sensors that we're calibrating. I mean,

575
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 3: I guess we're following the right tool.

576
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: You know, that's a fair point. Real quick. You buy

577
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 2: something online, it's it's it's it's a it's a it's

578
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 2: a cheap knockoff of something maybe made in China. Not

579
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: to pick on China, but let's face it, that's where

580
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: they're come from. You go to court, you know, you've

581
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: got to show that the calibration was done correctly with

582
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 2: an OEM approved tool. Otherwise you've got a liability issue. Yep, absolutely,

583
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden you're at risk. So the

584
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: big question and the big question Steve in our last

585
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 2: couple of minutes, right, we're down to about a two

586
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: minute time period here, how much what's the cost for

587
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: a shop to get involved in ADOS?

588
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 3: So it can be as low as, you know, a

589
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 3: few thousand dollars for a scan tool to be able

590
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 3: to do diagnostic calibrations or i'm sorry, dynamic calibrations, or

591
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 3: it could be you know, probably getting close to six

592
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 3: figures if you're going to do everything and it's out

593
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 3: there and you want to be able to do alignments, calibrations,

594
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 3: everything all with the with one machine. It can add

595
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 3: up pretty quick when you look at all of the

596
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 3: different manufacturers and there's no standardization amongst manufacturers, so there's

597
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 3: different targets for every single one of them. Right, it

598
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 3: adds up that cost. And the other side of it

599
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 3: is if you're getting into this business that one of

600
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 3: the big critical pieces is training. That it's you know,

601
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,479
Speaker 3: buying the equipment is one thing, building a process in

602
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 3: your shop is another, and then training your technicians. And

603
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 3: these systems change every model year as they come out,

604
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 3: so training needs to happen all the time, and it's.

605
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: It's just going to become an ongoing process that Hey, listen,

606
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: like we said in the beginning of this conversation, right,

607
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: this is this is the gateway to much more automated

608
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 2: vehicle driving systems, right, and that's really where we're headed.

609
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 2: And it's all about safety and getting out of trouble

610
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 2: and you know, less accidents and obviously so important because

611
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 2: everything they go wrong on an automobile stay It's been

612
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: a pleasure. If the listeners are looking for more information,

613
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: there's a website.

614
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: Yep, So if you go to Hunter dot com, if

615
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 3: you're a shop, there is resources for the equipment. There's

616
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 3: actually training on there. And if you're you know, somebody

617
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 3: that's driving a car with they'd ask there's also a

618
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 3: whole page in there dedicated just to you, you know,

619
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 3: and it's Hunter dot com right online.

620
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: I'm perfect, and we'll we'll we'll put that point across

621
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 2: to in my closing comments right after we come back

622
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: from this, you know, Steve, I just want to point

623
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 2: out right here on are we had written out a

624
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: bunch of questions. We still have eight more to go,

625
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: so we're gonna we're gonna have you back. How's that, buddy?

626
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: All right, that's all right anytime, Steve, you're very well.

627
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 2: I'm ron an Ay in the car doctor. Some closing

628
00:32:42,960 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 2: thoughts right after this. I want it once again, thanks

629
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 2: Steve Dawson for taking the time today Hunter Engineering, you know,

630
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 2: to come on the show and talk to us about

631
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: a DOTS. I hope you got something from it. I

632
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 2: learned stuff things I hadn't thought about, different angles. I

633
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: love the conversation about using a cheap scan tool. R

634
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 2: I hear it a lot, right, everybody wants to fix

635
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 2: rocket ships with cheap tools, and I don't know that

636
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: that works anymore. But the angle of you know, the

637
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: liability factor, because you've got to understand, as I'm sure

638
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 2: you do after listening to this interview with Steve, that

639
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: there's a liability involved with ADOS and fixing it properly,

640
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: and you won't know there's a problem in a lot

641
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 2: of cases until you're counting on the system to keep

642
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: you in the vehicle on the straight and narrow and

643
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: out of trouble, and to be able to have a

644
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: piece of equipment like Hunter has where they can prove

645
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 2: the calibration how it follows the OEM procedure, original equipment manufacturer.

646
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 3: Can.

647
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: You can't ask for more because it is critical. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's I've said it for years, right, mechanics hold the

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Speaker 2: the passengers' lives in their hands, provided they're calibrated properly

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Speaker 2: it's just that important. So once again, thank you to Steve,

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Speaker 2: and I hope everybody enjoyed it. The website again is

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Speaker 2: a ton of information about ados and you can find

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Speaker 2: it their Hunter dot com. I'm ronnin Andy in the

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Speaker 2: car Doctor. I want to thank you for taking the time,

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Speaker 2: as I always do. I appreciate being here for you guys.

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Speaker 2: Till the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.

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